WEBVTT 00:00:00.098 --> 00:00:09.063 - All right, so the meeting will now come to order. Recording in progress. The meeting will now come to 00:00:09.063 --> 00:00:18.116 - order. First, let's do a roll call. So Nadeb Dharahim, chair, present. Rebecca Keough, present. Gerard 00:00:18.116 --> 00:00:27.257 - Penacook, present. Paige Sharp, city staff. Rob Shakespeare, present. Gretchen Nall, present. Christina 00:00:27.257 --> 00:00:29.630 - Elam, city staff, present. 00:00:30.274 --> 00:00:37.534 - Okay, thank you everyone. So the next thing on our agenda is the approval of minutes from the last meeting. 00:00:37.534 --> 00:00:44.457 - So the secretary's draft of the minutes of the June meeting were sent to everyone and a copy is in the 00:00:44.457 --> 00:00:51.515 - meeting packet. Are there any corrections to the minutes as distributed? Okay, there are no corrections. 00:00:51.515 --> 00:00:58.439 - I move to approve the minutes as distributed. Can I get a second? Second. Great. All in favor say yes. 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:00.254 - Yes. Those opposed say no. 00:01:00.578 --> 00:01:08.410 - I don't like doing the eyes. I've made the executive decision we're going to do yes now. Okay, thank 00:01:08.410 --> 00:01:16.475 - you everyone. Minutes are approved. Do we take a vote on that? Eyes sounds very pirate-y, so. It's very 00:01:16.475 --> 00:01:24.385 - like old school. I don't know. It didn't fit the vibe. Alright, so next we will go, you're good. Next 00:01:24.385 --> 00:01:28.030 - we will go over to the city staff for updates. 00:01:30.370 --> 00:01:38.777 - I just realized you want to do the funds first and then the budget. Oh, the budget. OK. I'll just blow 00:01:38.777 --> 00:01:47.103 - this up. We can't make that a notch bigger, can we? Yay. You're so clever. So on this budget, you can 00:01:47.103 --> 00:01:55.266 - see that there's actually been expended the $76,000 for arts project support. Under other funds, it 00:01:55.266 --> 00:01:59.102 - says emerging artist professional development. 00:01:59.266 --> 00:02:06.301 - In the past, that line item has been at $5,000. But we recently found out that that $5,000 was attached 00:02:06.301 --> 00:02:13.134 - to funding that no longer exists. So what the good news is, because I was like, well, I don't report 00:02:13.134 --> 00:02:20.101 - that without good news. We did find that there was professional development dollars already encumbered 00:02:20.101 --> 00:02:25.310 - from another year. And so we've resurrected that and put it here for $2,750. 00:02:25.442 --> 00:02:30.718 - with what's the name of the individual, Christina? Andrea Sterling. 00:02:30.882 --> 00:02:36.707 - Yeah, so one of the things that she does that I'm really looking forward to in terms of artist professional 00:02:36.707 --> 00:02:42.208 - development is artists collaborating with one another because that's a really strong area for artists 00:02:42.208 --> 00:02:47.709 - and I think some practices on how to do that effectively, it's always oriented. So we're also meeting 00:02:47.709 --> 00:02:53.264 - with her in the future to have discussion about what other potential workshops to offer and those will 00:02:53.264 --> 00:02:56.446 - happen this fall and Christina will be coordinating those. 00:02:58.818 --> 00:03:14.765 - And that's it for the budget report. That sounds cool. Yeah. Hey, Austin. Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry about 00:03:14.765 --> 00:03:28.638 - that. You're good. You're good. OK. The next thing was public art in the right of way. 00:03:29.090 --> 00:03:36.341 - So one of the things that was launched right at the transition and departure of Holly and Chaz is the 00:03:36.341 --> 00:03:43.451 - public art and the right-of-way policy. And so it used to be merged with public works, where if you 00:03:43.451 --> 00:03:50.702 - wanted to do something in right-of-way, you would go through them only. But because the questions are 00:03:50.702 --> 00:03:58.238 - different naturally, not with a special event versus art, they separated the two. And so one is that it's 00:03:58.434 --> 00:04:07.399 - been launched. And so we do have a public art in the right of way policy, which is great. And here it 00:04:07.399 --> 00:04:16.276 - is. And so it kind of goes into like different definitions of public art. And then also a little bit 00:04:16.276 --> 00:04:25.065 - about the process and applications and things people will need if they want to propose a public art 00:04:25.065 --> 00:04:27.614 - project in the right of way. 00:04:28.130 --> 00:04:36.108 - So this is it. This is our first iteration. We'll be kind of editing and kind of doing different versions, 00:04:36.108 --> 00:04:43.640 - but just wanted to let you guys know that this has been launched and in place. A lot of it right now 00:04:43.640 --> 00:04:51.171 - was also kind of coming out of the Black Lives Matter mural debacle that happened. So that's another 00:04:51.171 --> 00:04:54.526 - reason why this was kind of needed. So yeah. 00:04:55.074 --> 00:05:02.116 - We have that. And then we also have the application for that, which is through Civic Access. We won't 00:05:02.116 --> 00:05:09.228 - be able to see it now, but I will just show you. Hey, it's on the Civic Access portal. So this is just 00:05:09.228 --> 00:05:16.132 - what the public goes to. So they go to apply. And then you have to go all and then just scroll down 00:05:16.132 --> 00:05:22.622 - to art in the right of way. So it's Civic Access portal, not Arts Commission portal. Correct. 00:05:23.778 --> 00:05:30.870 - And so they'll just fill out the application there. And it gives you instructions on what we expect 00:05:30.870 --> 00:05:38.317 - before they actually put in their information. And then that'll get routed to Page and I. And then we'll 00:05:38.317 --> 00:05:45.835 - just go through it. So that launched. And we just wanted to let you know that that's live. Two questions. 00:05:45.835 --> 00:05:53.566 - Yes. Because they're called through legal? Yes. Because they always must. Oh, sorry. They always add things. 00:05:54.882 --> 00:06:02.953 - And secondly, how is that funded? I'm not sure how to answer that question. It's not funded. Yeah, it's 00:06:02.953 --> 00:06:11.101 - not funded. Just like if you want to do something with a group on your own. Oh, it's that sort of thing. 00:06:11.101 --> 00:06:18.862 - It's not like painting electric boxes. It's just like if you want to do anything, you need a permit 00:06:18.862 --> 00:06:23.518 - to do it. So this is the permitting process for art permit. 00:06:24.674 --> 00:06:31.631 - Yeah. So this would be on someone's personal property, like business or home? Or is that the only context 00:06:31.631 --> 00:06:38.522 - that this happens in, I'm assuming? Any right of way. So right of way is just basically public property. 00:06:38.522 --> 00:06:45.479 - So sidewalks, alleyways, streets, those types of things that they want. So it would be for traffic boxes. 00:06:45.479 --> 00:06:48.958 - But they would just need a permit in order to do it. 00:06:49.090 --> 00:06:54.672 - It's those type of things. So they wouldn't necessarily be approved to be able to make that piece of 00:06:54.672 --> 00:07:00.198 - art, is what I'm... I guess I'm wondering what's the... Okay, they apply for a permit and they just 00:07:00.198 --> 00:07:05.725 - create art, but what if it's not good art? Yeah, that's my question. Yeah, so that's where we'll go 00:07:05.725 --> 00:07:11.417 - through... Okay, yeah. Go through us. Yeah. That's a great question. That's where we'll go through us, 00:07:11.417 --> 00:07:17.054 - and because we'll be able to see the back end of what they're proposing. And then that's also kind of 00:07:17.154 --> 00:07:24.205 - goes into like the public art subcommittee where we want to kind of have a greater discussion of how 00:07:24.205 --> 00:07:31.395 - we want to include the subcommittee as well into that process or how that will even look. And so yeah, 00:07:31.395 --> 00:07:38.376 - so that's kind of how it's going to work. So that way we have some type of process on what actually 00:07:38.376 --> 00:07:44.798 - kind of goes through. Okay, so not every single application is going to be able to do their 00:07:44.898 --> 00:07:50.416 - project like they want, right? It has to be approved by the city. Correct. Okay. Yeah, right now it 00:07:50.416 --> 00:07:55.988 - has to be approved by the Department of Public Works. And so Christina has gone through this process 00:07:55.988 --> 00:08:01.561 - because we're both very new and we're like, oh, there's a policy, which is great. I'm glad there's a 00:08:01.561 --> 00:08:07.079 - policy because that's the only one I've found so far. But they will make a final decision about the 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.934 - artwork, but it does make sense, maybe not for everyone, but some of them to go between 00:08:12.066 --> 00:08:15.998 - before the Public Art Committee where it's unclear. 00:08:16.162 --> 00:08:21.915 - And so we're getting our heads wrapped around the policy and how it's actually implemented and how it's 00:08:21.915 --> 00:08:27.447 - meaningful. So we just got an application from Lotus about all things that they're wanting to do in 00:08:27.447 --> 00:08:33.145 - one application, which we're like, wait a minute, what? So we're going to have a meeting with them and 00:08:33.145 --> 00:08:38.677 - they may have to resubmit. And so we're still getting our heads wrapped around the process. But the 00:08:38.677 --> 00:08:43.102 - city is definitely wants to make the decision about it. We're also learned that 00:08:44.034 --> 00:08:50.351 - if the artwork changed from what they put in the design that was approved by the city, then the city 00:08:50.351 --> 00:08:56.731 - will take it down. So some pieces, like for example, could be in the right of way, like obviously the 00:08:56.731 --> 00:09:03.298 - traffic box is going to be there for a while. So they take that role pretty seriously. So that's another 00:09:03.298 --> 00:09:09.553 - sort of interesting intersect to think about too. So when we think about public art, you know, it's 00:09:09.553 --> 00:09:10.366 - going to be, 00:09:11.554 --> 00:09:17.810 - We're gonna be talking a lot down the road. We'll tee out that conversation in the public art committee 00:09:17.810 --> 00:09:24.186 - next week about policies and processes. So, you know, selection criteria and really sort of think through 00:09:24.186 --> 00:09:30.261 - all of those elements. Thank you. I mean, it's good to know this exists. I didn't know about it, so. 00:09:30.261 --> 00:09:36.456 - We didn't either, but so now you do. So, is this gonna pertain to the students that, you know, they're 00:09:36.456 --> 00:09:37.118 - constantly 00:09:38.786 --> 00:09:45.720 - drawing and painting all over the sidewalks for like their fraternities sororities and all that. Yeah, 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:52.587 - I think the other element is, is how is this getting communicated out to the broad community right so 00:09:52.587 --> 00:09:54.270 - we'll have to work with. 00:09:54.818 --> 00:10:00.151 - the Department of Public Works to understand that as well and how we can get that information out. We 00:10:00.151 --> 00:10:05.380 - just got our heads wrapped around the policy because Christina had to go through it. You have to do 00:10:05.380 --> 00:10:10.608 - a resolution and a cover memo and all sort of madness because it's sitting in a lot of red tape. Is 00:10:10.608 --> 00:10:13.118 - there a fee for it? No. It's free. That's nice. 00:10:15.138 --> 00:10:20.602 - about the questions about the students, because they're usually drawing on the sidewalk on campus. Are 00:10:20.602 --> 00:10:26.118 - those different rules? Yeah, but like third street, that's a city street. I guess it's true. So in some 00:10:26.118 --> 00:10:31.476 - cases, they need to... Public property. If it's public property, then it's the right of way. So like 00:10:31.476 --> 00:10:36.992 - the sidewalks or the streets. Is there going to be a fine if you do it without getting a permit? I have 00:10:36.992 --> 00:10:39.326 - no idea. We need to meet with them and just 00:10:39.554 --> 00:10:46.096 - do a lot more recon than we have, because we also know that one little policy and not sharing what the 00:10:46.096 --> 00:10:52.574 - application is and the steps and the timeline is of no benefit to the community either. There's a lot 00:10:52.574 --> 00:10:59.306 - of information that still needs to be shared. We're trying to figure out what those steps are. But that's 00:10:59.306 --> 00:11:06.038 - a great question, because we were wondering that as well. What's the consequence of violations and things 00:11:06.038 --> 00:11:09.150 - like that? I think also, too, what is the public 00:11:09.378 --> 00:11:16.263 - versus what is private, like IU Street or whatever. I think that is, I assume a student might not be 00:11:16.263 --> 00:11:23.079 - thinking about that, or I think we have to at least be able to point to, this is how you can figure 00:11:23.079 --> 00:11:30.168 - that out, or this is who you asked before. What if there's a map or something, straightforward? I don't 00:11:30.168 --> 00:11:37.189 - know if that's possible. Maybe that can be IU's job to communicate that to their students, and not us, 00:11:37.189 --> 00:11:39.166 - whoever's in charge of that. 00:11:39.522 --> 00:11:45.271 - Yeah, but it's like, obviously, administration from IU or whoever kind of deals with those things, hopefully 00:11:45.271 --> 00:11:50.650 - they're in communication with the city and that this is an ongoing conversation. I feel like it's not 00:11:50.650 --> 00:11:56.135 - always the students' fault, right? Because I don't think that, you know, I feel like definitely people, 00:11:56.135 --> 00:12:01.461 - administrators don't always think about the students. Right, right. Even though they say that's what 00:12:01.461 --> 00:12:06.788 - they're doing. It's so bad for a kid to draw on the sidewalk. Especially with chalk. Yeah, for sure, 00:12:06.788 --> 00:12:09.214 - which is not permanent. So would this include 00:12:09.666 --> 00:12:15.481 - Eagleton? I don't know. Yeah, that's a city street. And there's that bridge that gets painted frequently. 00:12:15.481 --> 00:12:21.131 - All the time. Between theater and drama and the school of music. Great joint. Great point. What is the 00:12:21.131 --> 00:12:26.837 - bridge? There's a bridge that gets painted. Yeah. It's a bridge by the animals. The paint from previous 00:12:26.837 --> 00:12:29.470 - paintings is about two and a half inches thick. 00:12:29.762 --> 00:12:37.599 - They do it like every semester. That's great. Something like that. At least. Or a couple of times a 00:12:37.599 --> 00:12:45.672 - semester probably. It pretty much stays to the bridge. Occasionally it spills out. Yeah, I don't know. 00:12:45.672 --> 00:12:51.550 - But there's quite a bit of places. It'd be great if there was a map. Yeah. 00:12:51.650 --> 00:12:57.979 - I don't know, I think it's just great to have to point out for students, of course, just in case. And 00:12:57.979 --> 00:13:04.184 - what the exemptions are. I mean, a four-year-old is drawing on the sidewalk in front of their house 00:13:04.184 --> 00:13:10.078 - with some chalk. They're going to get busted. I wonder, too, if it'll be like if just somebody 00:13:10.402 --> 00:13:16.332 - puts in a complaint. Because I can't imagine the city workers walking around in the entire street. They're 00:13:16.332 --> 00:13:21.986 - not going to know. They're not going to know. So I imagine it would be someone sees an art they don't 00:13:21.986 --> 00:13:27.639 - like, or somebody doing something they don't like, and they know about this policy, and they complain 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:33.237 - to the city. I don't know. So we'll see. Great questions, though. I took some notes, because there's 00:13:33.237 --> 00:13:38.558 - just some of the stuff I hadn't thought about, and IU communicating that out. Where's the line? 00:13:39.298 --> 00:13:55.177 - between the city and... Usually it's chalk and it comes off pretty fast. But tagging stuff, you know? 00:13:55.177 --> 00:14:05.918 - Like spray can. You youngsters can read that. No doubt, it's like... 00:14:06.050 --> 00:14:12.938 - Well, it's just like temporary art, permanent art, semi-permanent art, and street art, performative, 00:14:12.938 --> 00:14:19.757 - and speech. So, but yeah, we could always, you know, add. Can you point that towards the Public Art 00:14:19.757 --> 00:14:26.577 - Committee? Just send us a link or something, it makes it easy to match on. Yes, yes. I think you're 00:14:26.577 --> 00:14:32.510 - right, it would be more like complaint oriented, if somebody does something offensive. 00:14:33.090 --> 00:14:40.291 - that somebody else finds offensive without the other blank. I think that's when it becomes sort of tricky. 00:14:40.291 --> 00:14:47.156 - Just something to keep in mind. Yeah, which I think that's where the Department of Public Works wants 00:14:47.156 --> 00:14:54.021 - to weigh in on it. And I think it also has to go through legal first, right? Yeah. So that's where it 00:14:54.021 --> 00:14:59.742 - starts to dilute the work a little bit. And I think it's clearly intentional design. 00:15:02.882 --> 00:15:21.369 - Thanks for sharing anyway. You can see us. All right. Anymore updates from the city before we move on 00:15:21.369 --> 00:15:31.518 - to the next item on the agenda? Okay, great. Thank you. 00:15:31.746 --> 00:15:39.201 - So I see the next item on our agenda is a presentation, assessing and communicating impact. Yeah, a 00:15:39.201 --> 00:15:47.178 - presentation, I shouldn't have used that word. It's a bit of a misnomer. It's more like gathering feedback 00:15:47.178 --> 00:15:54.782 - from you guys under the topic of communicating and storytelling. So when I started consulting for the 00:15:54.782 --> 00:16:01.566 - city, it was evident that there's no share out about anything beyond like a press release. 00:16:01.698 --> 00:16:09.938 - And so the impact of the work that you're doing, the impact of any of the arts department, city, 00:16:09.938 --> 00:16:18.603 - public funds, anything is being communicated. And use the word storytelling because I think it's more 00:16:18.603 --> 00:16:27.267 - than just a number, right? It's like we funded 47 grants to the tune of $76,000 or over the course of 00:16:27.267 --> 00:16:30.750 - the year, that total amount, the number. 00:16:30.850 --> 00:16:38.916 - As a result, we put money into the pockets of artists and they were able to advance their creative career. 00:16:38.916 --> 00:16:46.605 - Here's how in sharing some of those stories. But rather than, you know, me dictating what we're going 00:16:46.605 --> 00:16:54.369 - to be sharing out, you guys are a really astute group and I wanted to get input from you all from some 00:16:54.369 --> 00:16:56.254 - framing. So for example, 00:16:57.890 --> 00:17:06.265 - One of the things to think about is if you had a skeptical community member about why the arts are important, 00:17:06.265 --> 00:17:13.954 - what kind of information would you want to share with them? So that's one of the questions. And then 00:17:13.954 --> 00:17:21.567 - we kind of step back and go, what are we collecting in order to be able to share that out? So let's 00:17:21.567 --> 00:17:27.582 - first truly ask that question. If you're really looking to advocate to someone 00:17:28.130 --> 00:17:36.232 - about the importance of arts and how the BAC has a role with that, what kind of information would you 00:17:36.232 --> 00:17:44.335 - want to share? Well, every year there has been a presentation where this group has been part of it to 00:17:44.335 --> 00:17:52.278 - the council about, around budget time. Okay. And there was, I believe, a collection of slides and a 00:17:52.278 --> 00:17:57.918 - narrative that went with it that advocates for the importance of arts. 00:17:58.114 --> 00:18:06.328 - to whoever happens to be on the council at that time. So there's a starting place, maybe. That's good 00:18:06.328 --> 00:18:14.783 - to know. No idea about that. You're going to have to give that. Do what? I'm going to have to give that. 00:18:14.783 --> 00:18:22.916 - That's a good thing. I'm thinking about it. No problem. I could totally talk in front of hundreds of 00:18:22.916 --> 00:18:26.942 - people. As a business owner downtown, I would say 00:18:27.778 --> 00:18:39.113 - To any naysayers, if you look at successful towns, cities, in whatever size, the more and the better 00:18:39.113 --> 00:18:50.673 - quality of public art, the better the economic situation is. So I think public art is directly related 00:18:50.673 --> 00:18:56.734 - to economic success. So you could probably pull that. 00:18:58.146 --> 00:19:04.638 - There's data that's probably can be pulled from that too. Yep. From just knowing what I know in some 00:19:04.638 --> 00:19:11.515 - of my classes that I've been into. Yeah. I would agree. Yeah, not all public art is installed for economic 00:19:11.515 --> 00:19:17.942 - purposes. No. However. Yeah. I mean, if there were naysayers, that's what I would say. Right. Like, 00:19:17.942 --> 00:19:24.820 - it's beneficial in many different ways. Or the arts. Or the arts economically. Arts and culture in general 00:19:24.820 --> 00:19:27.262 - is beneficial for the vitality of the 00:19:27.682 --> 00:19:36.305 - community and economic basis, you can pull in the economics of arts and culture into that. So has the 00:19:36.305 --> 00:19:44.759 - city come up with its statement yet as to who we are? They were working on it last year, there were 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:53.213 - consultants working on it. There was a consultant working on it? Really? I mean the core of this is 00:19:53.213 --> 00:19:56.510 - that we all know that the arts culture 00:19:56.706 --> 00:20:06.751 - cultural expressions are a powerful part of Bloomington and I would hope that whatever has been woven 00:20:06.751 --> 00:20:16.894 - from this consulting group would support that. So my document itself might be a useful thing. But none 00:20:16.894 --> 00:20:19.454 - of us have seen the work. 00:20:20.194 --> 00:20:27.766 - My understanding was that it was taking place through 2025. I don't know the exact timeline, but I remember 00:20:27.766 --> 00:20:34.776 - at one point they were, like, whenever the consultants were coming in, they wanted to bring them to 00:20:34.776 --> 00:20:41.857 - a grand balloon and whatnot. This was last year, so I don't remember. It's from Indianapolis, right? 00:20:41.857 --> 00:20:48.798 - But I don't know when, what the exact timeline was. Good to know. Yeah, right, yeah. Good to know. 00:20:52.418 --> 00:21:01.016 - I think Holly has suggested that it would be very useful when the statement comes out rather than us 00:21:01.016 --> 00:21:09.869 - trying to invent it every time we do a call that we could point a public art call also to this document 00:21:09.869 --> 00:21:19.063 - that speaks about the values of Bloomington. It wasn't like an in-depth conversation at any of the meetings 00:21:19.063 --> 00:21:20.766 - just like maybe one 00:21:22.658 --> 00:21:30.002 - Okay. I can't remember the name of the firm. We can probably find it. Costs us money. Yeah. God. Okay. 00:21:30.002 --> 00:21:37.489 - Yeah. All right. Something around 2025 around a consultant around branding the BAC. That's good to know. 00:21:37.489 --> 00:21:44.548 - I mean, maybe storytelling has been happening and I'm not aware of it. And I'm just like thinking, 00:21:44.548 --> 00:21:50.110 - oh my God, we need to do some storytelling. But you guys have done it at all. 00:21:50.210 --> 00:21:56.149 - or beside, I mean, there's one, city council. What else? On the website, any, in a report? 00:21:56.149 --> 00:22:02.936 - I wonder if like, we've ever made like some sort of like pamphlet or like online on the city's website, 00:22:02.936 --> 00:22:09.527 - like people, like highlighting projects that were like successful or like, you know, with photos and 00:22:09.527 --> 00:22:16.119 - like potentially, I don't know, like there'd have to be somebody attending the event, potentially if 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.142 - it's like a projects grant or, 00:22:18.370 --> 00:22:24.221 - Or depending on the grant, if it's for the advancements grant, interviewing an artist one year later, 00:22:24.221 --> 00:22:30.473 - what did you get from this? And what were you able to create? And being able to show that some way visually, 00:22:30.473 --> 00:22:36.438 - probably, that we could at least point to and say, yeah, these are some examples. Because I don't think 00:22:36.438 --> 00:22:42.575 - we could highlight every single artist. Though I know they're supposed to write a report. They're supposed 00:22:42.575 --> 00:22:48.254 - to write a report as well. So that could be a way in which we recruit people potentially for this. 00:22:48.418 --> 00:22:55.901 - highlight. Either online, virtually, just a virtual kind of way to look at it, or if you wanted to make 00:22:55.901 --> 00:23:03.384 - something physical, or a combination of both. What are your thoughts on, because this is something I've 00:23:03.384 --> 00:23:10.579 - been thinking about too, is creating like a structure, timelines, so it's consistent, like a weekly 00:23:10.579 --> 00:23:17.054 - or monthly share out on social media. I was thinking along the same lines with a grantee, 00:23:17.410 --> 00:23:24.578 - And Lucas, from the mayor's office, just the first day I got here, volunteered to do some sort of media 00:23:24.578 --> 00:23:31.883 - on social media for us. I was like, great, somebody will do it for free? Awesome. So he could potentially 00:23:31.883 --> 00:23:38.913 - interview a grantee. Is that something you guys would be interested in? That sounds good. I think the 00:23:38.913 --> 00:23:45.805 - more presents, the better, honestly. OK, more presents, the better. My daughter got her degree from 00:23:45.805 --> 00:23:47.390 - the media school here. 00:23:47.906 --> 00:23:53.780 - you want to get intense about it, like certain times of the day you're supposed to post for the greatest 00:23:53.780 --> 00:23:59.375 - exposure, your interns will find that really quick. Certain days, certain times, you can definitely 00:23:59.375 --> 00:24:05.025 - track it through Instagram. I have to track a lot of this stuff for what I do for my current job. So 00:24:05.025 --> 00:24:10.788 - if you're on Instagram, you can see analytics. You can see peaks and downflows of when people that you 00:24:10.788 --> 00:24:16.606 - follow or people that you don't follow are peaking during the day. So for instance, we had our students 00:24:16.770 --> 00:24:22.780 - tend to drop off at a certain time, obviously, but we can see our high-peaked time when we're posting 00:24:22.780 --> 00:24:28.791 - things. Yeah. Like three times a day. Oh, that's nice. So from just knowing from my marketing classes 00:24:28.791 --> 00:24:34.919 - that they've taken within arts, culture, spaces, the more you feed a machine, technically, and the more 00:24:34.919 --> 00:24:41.165 - you feed a content machine being something online, the more engagement you'll have just in any community. 00:24:41.165 --> 00:24:46.174 - It's hard because if you're obviously a small team, but tiny team, it's hard to make 00:24:46.338 --> 00:24:57.123 - happen but obviously but I think it's more so just to like have things that we can point to yeah and 00:24:57.123 --> 00:25:02.782 - like ways that people can find like those stories of 00:25:03.266 --> 00:25:08.810 - success stories, right? People getting these grants and like, okay, we're not just giving this money 00:25:08.810 --> 00:25:14.408 - out into the ether, right? We throw it out, we like send it out and it never comes back. I think it's 00:25:14.408 --> 00:25:20.007 - just more so like having those like examples. Yeah. Yeah. And the bigger the presence, the better for 00:25:20.007 --> 00:25:25.770 - like first Friday or anything to do with ours. Right. That might be, that might be a good thing. I don't 00:25:25.770 --> 00:25:29.118 - know if you guys do this or have done in the past, but like, 00:25:29.602 --> 00:25:35.267 - if there's an artist who's gotten a grant from us in the past or something, I don't know if this is 00:25:35.267 --> 00:25:41.215 - too much of an ask, but highlighting that, like, oh, they'll be at these first Friday events, or they're 00:25:41.215 --> 00:25:47.107 - showing here. I don't know if that's, like, too much, but if you guys find the capacity for that, could 00:25:47.107 --> 00:25:52.942 - be some way to take it. It's great to collect these testimonials. But there needs to be, I think, this 00:25:52.942 --> 00:25:58.494 - overarching thing, this branding thing, this who is Bloomington and how these things fit into it. 00:25:58.626 --> 00:26:07.541 - And I know Paul and I were wrestling with some verbage for the forthcoming call for the Gateway art 00:26:07.541 --> 00:26:16.902 - piece. And then going back to the one that Raysik got, one and other things, there is some text in there 00:26:16.902 --> 00:26:26.174 - that tries to differentiate Bloomington from other places in Indiana. And so if you've got that sort of 00:26:26.754 --> 00:26:33.239 - importance of culture, and now you've got these testimonials that are the grassroots of why it's important 00:26:33.239 --> 00:26:39.361 - to culture, I think. I love that, and I feel like that's important in terms of retaining population. 00:26:39.361 --> 00:26:45.483 - So if you have a post, I mean, here's the assumption, we can test that assumption, right? It's like, 00:26:45.483 --> 00:26:51.787 - if the artist, the local artist, and we have a post, and it's like, bloom here, it just psychologically 00:26:51.787 --> 00:26:54.878 - attaches a little bit more, and that's part of the 00:26:55.170 --> 00:27:01.850 - issues that we're seeing is there's a demographic area that is being lost in Bloomington that we're 00:27:01.850 --> 00:27:08.731 - really wanting to retain. So that would be really great. I like that a lot. Austin, do you do that for 00:27:08.731 --> 00:27:15.611 - secretly? Is that one of your jobs or not? Do you do any social media? No, that one's usually, I think 00:27:15.611 --> 00:27:22.626 - Angela does, but kind of like what you were saying about peak time, things like that. For the most part, 00:27:22.626 --> 00:27:24.830 - everyone's pretty aware of that. 00:27:24.962 --> 00:27:32.375 - Any way that I can help with social media, sure. I mean, I'm pretty rich and heavy. Did you just say 00:27:32.375 --> 00:27:40.154 - you'd be willing to help? Just checking. That's funny. Most old people can't do that. I mean, the younger 00:27:40.154 --> 00:27:47.567 - demographic. Well, I mean, I just... I'm just concerned myself. It's not that I can't focus on life. 00:27:47.567 --> 00:27:54.686 - I don't want to. Do you actually get that flip phone so social media... Oh my God, good for you. 00:27:55.074 --> 00:28:02.480 - I'm on my way out. That's the statement right there. I love that, yeah. I mean, I try not to engage 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:10.183 - with it because I just don't want to get sucked into it. I don't know if it's a matter, you know. Okay, 00:28:10.183 --> 00:28:17.738 - so great. Is there any, because we are collecting information in the final grant reports. Information 00:28:17.738 --> 00:28:20.478 - has not historically been collected. 00:28:20.802 --> 00:28:27.983 - The grants team has been great and we've had conversation about collecting information, you know, number 00:28:27.983 --> 00:28:35.233 - of folks that have attended because those stats matter. At some point, I think it would be really helpful 00:28:35.233 --> 00:28:42.483 - to get like leverage funds of anything that was contributed other than by the city because that amplifies 00:28:42.483 --> 00:28:48.638 - the investment. So I think we're going to work on like a social media share out and I'll, 00:28:49.570 --> 00:28:56.250 - devise a plan or maybe even, I mean, ideally I was hoping to get like a master's student at IU to do 00:28:56.250 --> 00:29:02.997 - that, because I just think that's a really great project for a student to do. And I'd love to have it 00:29:02.997 --> 00:29:09.678 - done sooner than later, because I feel like it's really valuable to start getting that out the door. 00:29:09.678 --> 00:29:16.424 - But I think at the very least, if you're OK with it, I'd love to start finding a system to contacting 00:29:16.424 --> 00:29:19.070 - grantees and start helping promote them 00:29:19.170 --> 00:29:25.787 - And at whatever time of day is the best time to do it. I'm sure Lucas knows. And luckily, then they 00:29:25.787 --> 00:29:32.404 - can share that out. And I think it'll just help them promote themselves as well, which is of value. 00:29:32.404 --> 00:29:39.087 - Well, great. This has been helpful. I just want to make sure I'm not missing something. I have a few 00:29:39.087 --> 00:29:46.365 - quick. I mean, we've talked a lot about the impact of granting. But I think it's also important to articulate 00:29:46.365 --> 00:29:47.358 - the importance 00:29:47.554 --> 00:30:00.755 - the public art work that we do as well, the support there. I think a lot, I guess, about the many different 00:30:00.755 --> 00:30:14.078 - ways that the funding has impacts. I guess I used to call it diversity of impact. There's economic benefits. 00:30:14.498 --> 00:30:23.447 - there's just recreation and entertainment, there's a sense of community, health. And it just finds its 00:30:23.447 --> 00:30:32.136 - way to, we're not just funding visual art, it's like we're funding all different types of audiences 00:30:32.136 --> 00:30:40.129 - from really niche experimental stuff to more traditional stuff like family in the park type 00:30:40.129 --> 00:30:44.126 - stuff, neighborhoods, venues, it's just like, 00:30:44.290 --> 00:30:55.583 - Yeah, there's just such a breadth of places where those public funds go. And there's that direct impact, 00:30:55.583 --> 00:31:06.768 - but then also that indirect impact as well. It's huge. And so I think articulating that really expanded 00:31:06.768 --> 00:31:11.070 - impact is great. Yeah, art's very cool. 00:31:11.874 --> 00:31:20.714 - impacting non-arts and also the diversity of arts disciplines and the type and depth and breadth of 00:31:20.714 --> 00:31:30.349 - projects. Love that. That's great. As always. Which is also really helpful in terms of capturing information 00:31:30.349 --> 00:31:39.454 - in a final grant report that's easy to capture, like a drop-down menu so that I can collate that data. 00:31:39.842 --> 00:31:47.658 - That's how I have to think about this stuff, which is annoying but true. What else? Thinking along public 00:31:47.658 --> 00:31:55.473 - art, what are some of the things that could help demonstrate impact or share a little bit of storytelling 00:31:55.473 --> 00:32:03.215 - or something maybe we should be collecting to help share the story of public art in Bloomington? I think 00:32:03.215 --> 00:32:06.238 - images are going to be the best, always. 00:32:09.442 --> 00:32:18.502 - And it's easy enough to use anything to have a picture of, say, a park that has a piece of public art, 00:32:18.502 --> 00:32:27.562 - and then this is what it would look like without it. It's like, look how important this is right here. 00:32:27.562 --> 00:32:36.798 - Yeah. Yeah. I like that a lot. I think it would be interesting to hear perspectives from younger people. 00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:42.331 - Like, I'm really curious what kids think about public art, what the students think about the city that 00:32:42.331 --> 00:32:47.732 - they're living in, even if it's temporary. I feel like there's something interesting about there. They 00:32:47.732 --> 00:32:53.185 - probably wouldn't be lying to us, and I'd be curious to hear what they think about their community that 00:32:53.185 --> 00:32:58.534 - they're sort of... Transient. Yeah. Either as students or even like children, you don't get to choose 00:32:58.534 --> 00:33:03.935 - where you're living. So I think it's just interesting to see that kind of perspective, because we hear 00:33:03.935 --> 00:33:05.246 - from adults a lot. Yeah. 00:33:05.378 --> 00:33:11.137 - And kids are natural born artists, and they just are. And they'll be a completely great story. Oh, yeah. 00:33:11.137 --> 00:33:16.731 - I'm so on it. I think it sounds like a fun video or something. They're asking them, what do you think 00:33:16.731 --> 00:33:22.381 - of this mural? I love that. I think it would be super cute. That would be super cute. Totally. I think 00:33:22.381 --> 00:33:28.414 - Lucas would be all over that. Lucas has no idea what's in store for him, apparently. Oh, my god. Great ideas. 00:33:28.770 --> 00:33:35.043 - I know for the, speaking of videos, I know that for the Duke murals, Caleb was one of the artists and 00:33:35.043 --> 00:33:41.378 - he created... Caleb Fork? Mm-hmm. He created a video of just like his experience doing the Duke mural, 00:33:41.378 --> 00:33:48.082 - especially that was his like first like large-scale mural. And so he talked about his process and experience 00:33:48.082 --> 00:33:54.847 - with the city and just like working with other artists and the design process. And it was really interesting. 00:33:54.847 --> 00:33:56.446 - It was really good. Yeah. 00:33:56.898 --> 00:34:03.403 - He does social media for Parks and Rec Department. Oh yeah, I met him. Yeah, yeah. I was kind of bummed 00:34:03.403 --> 00:34:09.970 - he would work for the city because I thought he'd be great on the commission, truthfully. So I was like, 00:34:09.970 --> 00:34:16.287 - I don't think it's that bad. He's super involved. That's awesome. He also does really well, I think, 00:34:16.287 --> 00:34:22.917 - social media. Yeah, social media is nice. He does the best. The parks do. I mean, in terms of engagement, 00:34:22.917 --> 00:34:25.982 - a video does the best compared to a photo. Yeah. 00:34:26.530 --> 00:34:35.220 - So it could be a good thing. A lot of artists are already documenting their process. So we can get that 00:34:35.220 --> 00:34:43.742 - somehow compiled. Even if there was a way, I was just kind of thinking, too, to have a link. Is there 00:34:43.742 --> 00:34:49.758 - already a link to a social media on the website? Probably. Most likely. 00:34:51.042 --> 00:34:57.963 - Just double checking that, too, for consistency. Making sure that the social media is connected to our 00:34:57.963 --> 00:35:05.018 - Arts Commission website and all this stuff. I don't know. It's all about storytellings. I'm still trying 00:35:05.018 --> 00:35:12.006 - to figure out the login and password for Facebook, for the Bloomington Arts Commission. I mean, I asked 00:35:12.006 --> 00:35:18.725 - Bethany. I can't find anything. So yes, totally agree. So yeah. Once we figure that out. Maybe even 00:35:18.725 --> 00:35:20.606 - links to also testimonials. 00:35:20.706 --> 00:35:27.949 - I don't know, just to keep promoting all this, too. Not just that we have our agenda and stuff like 00:35:27.949 --> 00:35:35.264 - that on when we meet, but just who we are, what we're about on the website. I don't know. Yeah, just 00:35:35.264 --> 00:35:42.796 - promoting it. Can you guys hear me? Yeah. The screen's completely black for me, and I don't know what's 00:35:42.796 --> 00:35:49.822 - happening. My phone would be the best search for me. We can hear you. OK. You're not just the... 00:35:50.882 --> 00:35:51.518 - at work. 00:36:20.258 --> 00:36:27.933 - in the store and then they also get the record store. They give them some recognition. So what I'm thinking 00:36:27.933 --> 00:36:35.110 - in this case is perhaps, you know, maybe a newer commission member or whoever might be somebody that 00:36:35.110 --> 00:36:42.288 - would be like a mascot of sorts to kind of be the public facing aspect. You know, like, you know, if 00:36:42.288 --> 00:36:47.902 - we're in the back and the shadows do and stuff. And here's what came out today 00:36:54.434 --> 00:37:05.138 - I love that, that's fantastic. You guys are such a sharp group, really. We're gonna go find that unicorn 00:37:05.138 --> 00:37:15.943 - and we're gonna get him out there, we're gonna get him on the team. But I think, you know, I know exactly 00:37:15.943 --> 00:37:17.982 - what you're saying. 00:37:18.402 --> 00:37:25.451 - I know exactly the prototype of human that you're talking about. I think we may have an applicant, so 00:37:25.451 --> 00:37:32.431 - I'll look that up. But if not, I think it would be a great student opportunity, too, right? Totally. 00:37:32.431 --> 00:37:38.720 - Yeah, that'd be so cool. It'd be great for them on their resume to be the BAC arts mascot. 00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:44.318 - How cool is that? President of the Social Outreach Committee. Sounds good on us. 00:37:45.442 --> 00:37:53.537 - I love that they have all these social elements. I love that so much. Interns love a good title. Yeah. 00:37:53.537 --> 00:38:01.631 - They have to use them on their resumes. I was spitballing stuff with our intern, Drew. I was like, oh, 00:38:01.631 --> 00:38:10.040 - if you did this, you could say this. And he was like, ooh. I said, that stuff matters. All right. Anything 00:38:10.040 --> 00:38:15.070 - else, public art-wise and specifically? Well, you had mentioned 00:38:16.194 --> 00:38:25.466 - of matching funds, or leverage funds, right? Every time I've brought this up, since I've joined the 00:38:25.466 --> 00:38:34.830 - committee, the person in your role and others have just laughed at me. But, just a sec, when I bring 00:38:34.830 --> 00:38:44.194 - this issue up. So, the city has 1% for the arts. Developers don't. And I really think that it should 00:38:44.194 --> 00:38:45.214 - be pressed 00:38:46.018 --> 00:38:53.051 - that and let's put some idea out there. If you're putting something in Bloomington over 20, 30 million, 00:38:53.051 --> 00:39:00.083 - that there's a consequence of supporting something in that environment that has aesthetic appeal. Maybe 00:39:00.083 --> 00:39:06.980 - it starts with a half percent for the arts, but just to get the wedge in the door and to come up with 00:39:06.980 --> 00:39:13.742 - some threshold for it so that they're matching the spirit of what the city is doing. I have a great 00:39:13.742 --> 00:39:15.230 - case making for that. 00:39:15.362 --> 00:39:21.780 - If Rushville, Indiana can do it, so can Burmese, because that's true. Rushville does. So it's legal. 00:39:21.780 --> 00:39:28.389 - Yeah, it's codified. Yeah. You create some benchmark. Oh, totally. I've got the policy. I've armed with 00:39:28.389 --> 00:39:34.807 - that policy. I'd love to see it, because I've been at this for a long time. Yeah, and I'm just like, 00:39:34.807 --> 00:39:41.289 - here, here, here. If Rushville can do it, you can do it. Yeah. Because, my god, seriously, Rushville. 00:39:41.289 --> 00:39:42.814 - Yeah. I mean, I'm down. 00:39:44.418 --> 00:39:53.676 - I think we would have to take some time to build political collateral to get to that point, but it was 00:39:53.676 --> 00:40:02.844 - initially adopted in 1994, which of course is what, 32 years ago. So I think it's ready for some spit 00:40:02.844 --> 00:40:09.406 - and shine for sure. I think that's a good longitudinal goal to focus on. 00:40:10.850 --> 00:40:16.902 - because I would love to have more funding in that kitty for sure, because I think there's some really 00:40:16.902 --> 00:40:23.014 - fun stuff that the community could do, large scale. That would be community wide rather than just like 00:40:23.014 --> 00:40:29.125 - a little dip here and a little bit there. Other thoughts while we're like changing the universe? We're 00:40:29.125 --> 00:40:35.059 - just changing the earth, yeah. I was thinking, along with the incremental like, okay, these are the 00:40:35.059 --> 00:40:36.542 - things that we're doing. 00:40:37.378 --> 00:40:44.245 - kind of along the lines of like the presentation, that yearly presentation that happens at the end of 00:40:44.245 --> 00:40:51.314 - the year. If there's just like a year-end review or something that can be posted on the website of like, 00:40:51.314 --> 00:40:58.248 - these are all things that we accomplished this year, I think that would be helpful. So then they could 00:40:58.248 --> 00:41:05.182 - always see every year what we've done in the past or this year and things like that. How would you see 00:41:05.182 --> 00:41:07.134 - that as like a more broadly, 00:41:07.426 --> 00:41:14.805 - So you have the budget meeting, and that's not the end of the year. The end of the year is the end of 00:41:14.805 --> 00:41:22.329 - the year. I could see that dovetailing like, this is what we did in December. Maybe it's like a January 00:41:22.329 --> 00:41:29.636 - thing. Maybe it's launched in an artist party or whatever it is we're supposed to be doing. Ours are 00:41:29.636 --> 00:41:36.798 - tough for me. But is there a platform that would be of value to get that out more broadly than the 00:41:36.898 --> 00:41:42.910 - We're pretty insulated right now in terms of where we get the word out. So any thoughts on that? The 00:41:42.910 --> 00:41:49.160 - mysterious newsletter. Christina forwarded it to us today because I haven't even seen it. Yeah, so maybe 00:41:49.160 --> 00:41:55.291 - that should be something we should be looking into more. Maybe we should have more ownership. Oh, like 00:41:55.291 --> 00:42:01.363 - the email that comes out? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I need to add it to this. Yeah, I haven't 00:42:01.363 --> 00:42:05.470 - seen this. Yeah, she hasn't seen this. We'll follow up with the link 00:42:05.602 --> 00:42:11.209 - to sign up for the newsletter, which apparently Drew and I signed up for it, but I haven't received 00:42:11.209 --> 00:42:16.872 - a newsletter yet. And when Christine afforded it to it, it was quite illuminating that it like comes 00:42:16.872 --> 00:42:22.535 - from the Bloomington Arts Commission, but the name is the City Arts Newsletter. So I was like, okay, 00:42:22.535 --> 00:42:28.198 - well that makes it feel a little bit better than the Bloomington Arts Commission newsletter that the 00:42:28.198 --> 00:42:33.917 - Bloomington Arts Commission doesn't review, doesn't have anything to do with. So now it's a City Arts 00:42:33.917 --> 00:42:34.590 - newsletter. 00:42:35.010 --> 00:42:43.023 - feels to me a little bit more comfortable. What are your thoughts? I mean, this person works for the 00:42:43.023 --> 00:42:51.512 - city? That does the newsletter? Yeah. No. I mean, it's contracted. We contract Indiana Arts and Humanities 00:42:51.512 --> 00:43:00.001 - Institute, and Bethany does it right now. And I wanted to continue to do it that way until I could develop 00:43:00.001 --> 00:43:04.126 - a storytelling action plan. And then we'll relaunch 00:43:04.738 --> 00:43:10.342 - maybe even with this branding that somewhere lives somewhere in an archive of, I don't know, in 2025, 00:43:10.342 --> 00:43:16.000 - so. Yeah, I feel like that's fair. I think that definitely I would have that on the radar in terms of, 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:21.934 - I think that'll be a really big way that we can highlight projects like artists, things that are happening, 00:43:21.934 --> 00:43:27.592 - end of the year, you know, one of the newsletters could be like end of the year, what we did this year 00:43:27.592 --> 00:43:29.790 - kind of thing. So I think it's a really 00:43:29.954 --> 00:43:36.851 - Somehow there's a way to get more ownership over that newsletter somehow, or at least what can go into 00:43:36.851 --> 00:43:44.015 - it. Newsletters are generally a good way, if they're going out to the community to, emails and newsletters 00:43:44.015 --> 00:43:50.778 - are generally a good way to get information out to people, because I constantly send newsletters out 00:43:50.778 --> 00:43:57.474 - for my job as well on a basis. So I can't really talk about this. And these conversations will help 00:43:57.474 --> 00:43:59.550 - inform, because right now it's 00:43:59.938 --> 00:44:07.490 - I mean, it's not, it's not bad. There's images and there's opportunities. There's no standard process. 00:44:07.490 --> 00:44:14.896 - Oh, opportunities for so many opportunities. Opportunities. But we are kind of hitting close to 630. 00:44:14.896 --> 00:44:22.595 - So I want to give time to the other agenda items. So not to cut anyone off. I think if there's any other 00:44:22.595 --> 00:44:29.854 - ideas, email page, is that what they should do? Okay, great. So let's move on. Next agenda item is 00:44:30.466 --> 00:44:37.817 - from your chair and your chair doesn't have anything for you. So no news is good news. So I'll move 00:44:37.817 --> 00:44:45.462 - on to our next agenda item, which is to Rebecca for public art. The only update right now is that we've 00:44:45.462 --> 00:44:52.960 - that the DBI downtown public art installations have begun and they first traffic box of five is being 00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:59.870 - repainted unless the city has other updates on that project specifically. But that's the only 00:45:00.418 --> 00:45:08.824 - They'll be more next week. I have a question about public arts and maybe I should just email, but if 00:45:08.824 --> 00:45:17.147 - we could do the public arts meeting the same day as this one, so there's not two separate meetings, 00:45:17.147 --> 00:45:25.802 - it would be so awesome. That's a long block of time. I mean, if we could just get it over with. I don't 00:45:25.802 --> 00:45:27.966 - mean to say it like that. 00:45:29.570 --> 00:45:36.150 - I hear there's a lot the same week. Would you like it just like different weeks? Same day as the Arts 00:45:36.150 --> 00:45:42.794 - Commission meeting. We have to meet once a month. That's tough on me. It is? OK. I mean, we can always 00:45:42.794 --> 00:45:49.438 - resend out. We sent out in February, we sent out to see what worked for everybody and what time didn't 00:45:49.438 --> 00:45:56.083 - work for everybody. But we can always resend it, because we've had people leave and come back and come 00:45:56.083 --> 00:45:57.502 - on and so since then. 00:45:57.634 --> 00:46:09.660 - So we can just always resend out a doodle and see what works. Okay. Again, for this year. Yeah. I have 00:46:09.660 --> 00:46:21.336 - just more of a personal curiosity, but I think just to ask as well, are there any updates on either 00:46:21.336 --> 00:46:26.590 - the undulate installation in Hopewell or the 00:46:27.074 --> 00:46:35.863 - the gateway call out. The gateway call out, what's the gateway call out? Miller Showers. Miller Showers. 00:46:35.863 --> 00:46:44.318 - Underlay, we're waiting for quotes for the concrete that needs to be there in order for the piece to 00:46:44.318 --> 00:46:52.689 - be installed, but the hope is to be completed by the end of September for ribbon cutting. That will 00:46:52.689 --> 00:46:55.870 - be the, I don't know, I think it was, 00:46:56.034 --> 00:47:06.385 - Friday is the deadline for concrete folks to put in a bid. So we'll see what that is, because the city 00:47:06.385 --> 00:47:16.937 - picks up that cost. And then with the Gateway, we're meeting with the Parks Department, I think, Friday, 00:47:16.937 --> 00:47:25.982 - and hoping to launch that call August or September for a late spring summer installation. 00:47:26.178 --> 00:47:33.497 - That's great. For race six? Race six is under late. Yeah. Gate wheel will be an open call. Okay. 00:47:33.497 --> 00:47:41.344 - So for you, when you say construction, next summer. Next summer installation. Yeah. Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. 00:47:41.344 --> 00:47:48.588 - Absolutely. So this fall put out the RFQ and then late spring likely early summer installation. 00:47:48.588 --> 00:47:54.398 - Next year. Yeah. Next year. Yeah. Great. So you do have a template for that. 00:47:57.154 --> 00:48:06.789 - which Paul and I wrote. Oh, you wrote an RQ template? Okay. I'll revisit that. Yeah, I'll just say going 00:48:06.789 --> 00:48:16.149 - back to the DDI. So we did, we were able to do some tabling and collect some public feedback for that 00:48:16.149 --> 00:48:26.334 - alleyway between Peach Cobbler and JL Waters. And so there's going to be a mural on the side of Peach Cobbler. 00:48:27.074 --> 00:48:33.674 - And so we were able to, and we're still collecting feedback till the end of the week. So I should send 00:48:33.674 --> 00:48:40.082 - that link out. You guys should put it out. Sorry about that. But yeah, and so the call will launch. 00:48:40.082 --> 00:48:46.618 - It's a beautiful alley. Yeah, so. It's all underused. And then we'll launch the call next week. Which 00:48:46.618 --> 00:48:50.142 - fund again? Downtown Bloomington. That's great. Great. 00:48:55.170 --> 00:49:05.229 - Yes. Yeah, she's great. One more question. The substation mural that you shepherded was an incredible, 00:49:05.229 --> 00:49:15.387 - is an incredible success. That was funded by Duke Electric, right? Yeah. What about the other surfaces? 00:49:15.387 --> 00:49:23.102 - Yeah, that's something that we'll have to reschedule, I mean, have to revisit. 00:49:23.938 --> 00:49:31.703 - The original project was to paint all sides, except the one that's not facing the public side. So I 00:49:31.703 --> 00:49:39.856 - think it's like five sides total. And so we started the first installation. Duke only provided a portion 00:49:39.856 --> 00:49:47.620 - of the funding for it. So a large hang up is just funding. So that's just something we just need to 00:49:47.620 --> 00:49:49.406 - revisit. Great, great. 00:49:51.138 --> 00:50:00.540 - That's a story in itself that should be archived as to the importance of our community, the artists 00:50:00.540 --> 00:50:09.942 - that were brought together through this organization and the success of it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. 00:50:09.942 --> 00:50:20.190 - Okay, sorry, back to you. That's it for the PoliGuard updates. Thank you. Now we'll go to Gerard for grants. 00:50:22.274 --> 00:50:28.996 - So I think as Paige mentioned in the budget agenda item, like funds are starting to go out the door 00:50:28.996 --> 00:50:35.853 - for the arts project grants, 76K, which is, yeah, that's a good chunk of change. Really excited about 00:50:35.853 --> 00:50:42.575 - that. So, yeah, I mean, or I shouldn't say it's starting to go out the door. No, because all of the 00:50:42.575 --> 00:50:49.498 - contracts are mired in legal and have them for the entire month. I don't mean, like, I, like, but that 00:50:49.498 --> 00:50:50.910 - process is underway. 00:50:51.042 --> 00:51:00.961 - The artists know the contracts are being made. No funds have actually left the venue. But it's getting 00:51:00.961 --> 00:51:10.688 - there. And I mean, at least for the commission for now, it's kind of like, you know, it's out of our 00:51:10.688 --> 00:51:20.414 - hands. And we just get to celebrate it and talk about it and share the wonderful impact that it has. 00:51:20.546 --> 00:51:32.415 - So for the artistic advancement grants that link or that call is live and Yeah, it's up to $2,000 for 00:51:32.415 --> 00:51:44.283 - individual artists or artists groups that are looking to advance their practice or their career Yeah, 00:51:44.283 --> 00:51:50.334 - that is open until I believe it's August 16th their 00:51:51.458 --> 00:52:03.544 - August 10th. I saw that the office of the mayor recently posted about it on Facebook. I saw that, so 00:52:03.544 --> 00:52:15.390 - there are links and there is promo that's going out to the public. I guess a quick note for folks. 00:52:15.490 --> 00:52:22.429 - I think it's likely that we will probably recruit from the commission again to to do reviews for those 00:52:22.429 --> 00:52:29.165 - we tend to this is the this is the grant that we I think tend to get the most applications for like 00:52:29.165 --> 00:52:32.062 - this grant is in the past definitely broke 00:52:32.194 --> 00:52:39.942 - Yeah, so I mean if if we're on the trajectory that we were with the project we should we should expect 00:52:39.942 --> 00:52:47.539 - a pretty high volume I I don't know necessarily like putting it again having this grant also used to 00:52:47.539 --> 00:52:54.910 - be in the either in the fall of the spring it's in the summer now so it's like so potentially but 00:52:55.010 --> 00:53:01.575 - But yeah, and we are scheduling it now as opposed to just sort of like figuring out when we're going 00:53:01.575 --> 00:53:08.139 - to do this review session. We are going to do the review session sometime the week of September 14th 00:53:08.139 --> 00:53:14.769 - through the 18th. But there's the week directly in the run up to the grants committee meeting so that 00:53:14.769 --> 00:53:21.398 - we can add that meeting, approve the funding package, and then the process to get those funds out the 00:53:21.398 --> 00:53:23.998 - door can take place shortly afterwards. 00:53:24.098 --> 00:53:32.393 - put a note on your calendars for some time during that week. I'll be in touch with more info as we get 00:53:32.393 --> 00:53:40.527 - closer to it, but that's when we'll review and go from there. Yeah, and then not too long after that 00:53:40.527 --> 00:53:48.580 - is the operations grant, but we don't really need to go there quite yet. So, yep, that's the report 00:53:48.580 --> 00:53:52.446 - from Grants World. I found it really insightful 00:53:53.090 --> 00:54:01.471 - volunteering into the committee to do some of the reading. But one of the things I did notice is that 00:54:01.471 --> 00:54:09.688 - there was a conversation about when these projects would be completed. And if the money isn't being 00:54:09.688 --> 00:54:15.358 - issued yet, wasn't it like before September or October or something? 00:54:15.554 --> 00:54:23.536 - The window for spending, I believe, is July 1st through next June 30th. Yeah, so they have a full calendar 00:54:23.536 --> 00:54:30.996 - year to spend the funds. Every program will have a whole year. Can I ask a quick question about the 00:54:30.996 --> 00:54:38.680 - grants? I just want to make sure that the Blockhouse grant that they wrote, I don't know who wrote it, 00:54:38.680 --> 00:54:43.454 - but they did mention in that grant that it was going to be used 00:54:45.154 --> 00:54:55.604 - for part of their payroll or to pay their employees, which we're not allowed to do. That's not allowable 00:54:55.604 --> 00:55:05.657 - if it had to do with the project. No, it was their staff at the regular staff that they have. I just 00:55:05.657 --> 00:55:12.126 - don't want to get in trouble for that. I just want to make sure. 00:55:13.474 --> 00:55:20.088 - Okay, I'll review that application. I do think also this came up a little bit in terms of a lot of the 00:55:20.088 --> 00:55:26.702 - folks filling out the application listed all their expenses, but they didn't necessarily say they were 00:55:26.702 --> 00:55:33.252 - gonna use the money from the committee or from the city to pay that specific thing. So I think maybe, 00:55:33.252 --> 00:55:39.802 - I think there was some confusion with that because I think a lot of them were just maybe the way it's 00:55:39.802 --> 00:55:41.086 - written in terms of 00:55:42.210 --> 00:55:48.019 - funding that they're asking for needs to be more clear in the future. But like, yeah, they were just 00:55:48.019 --> 00:55:53.885 - like doing their laundry list of costs. And I think we weren't always sure what they were planning to 00:55:53.885 --> 00:55:59.924 - use it for. Or sometimes they would say, yeah. So I think that's something that we kind of talked about, 00:55:59.924 --> 00:56:05.963 - right, a couple of weeks ago. We just need to make sure they don't say that. So maybe the grant, I guess 00:56:05.963 --> 00:56:10.622 - that's more work, but maybe the grant says we are supporting this aspect of your 00:56:10.882 --> 00:56:17.571 - Yeah, yeah, or maybe we have to like ask them specifically to say like maybe there should be two sections 00:56:17.571 --> 00:56:24.071 - of what are your total costs and then what costs are you looking to fund from this grant specifically. 00:56:24.071 --> 00:56:29.182 - So there might be just that language change might be enough. What we could do is 00:56:30.050 --> 00:56:38.733 - They certify that they are using the funds only for eligible expenses and if they're, if they need to 00:56:38.733 --> 00:56:47.672 - modify their budget as a result, then submit a grant modification form and I have a link for that. Yeah. 00:56:47.672 --> 00:56:56.526 - I like that. Just to clear. Yeah, that's a kind of protocol. So I'll do a certification. Anything else, 00:56:56.526 --> 00:56:58.654 - Gerard? Okay. Thank you. 00:56:58.850 --> 00:57:06.354 - So now we'll just move on to upcoming events. So Christina, if you don't mind pulling up the event calendar, 00:57:06.354 --> 00:57:13.307 - I think it's very sparse. Three things, yeah. So we just have a few things coming up. We are kind of 00:57:13.307 --> 00:57:20.260 - short on time, so I'm going to just say if there's an event or anything happening in the next couple 00:57:20.260 --> 00:57:27.006 - months that you know about and you think we should know about, please feel free to jump onto this 00:57:27.874 --> 00:57:34.548 - Google Sheet and add it, or you can just like send me an email and I'll add, you know, if you're just 00:57:34.548 --> 00:57:41.156 - like, I can't be bothered. Just send me the information and I can add it. But yeah, so at least that 00:57:41.156 --> 00:57:47.896 - we know what's going on and we could potentially attend any of these events. The big ones. Yeah. Okay. 00:57:47.896 --> 00:57:54.046 - All right. So let's move on from that to comments or commissioner announcements or questions. 00:57:54.946 --> 00:58:02.180 - Any comments or questions from the commissioners? I do have one thing that I want to bring up actually 00:58:02.180 --> 00:58:09.274 - for our city folks. Any updates on new commissioners? We're still too down and we'd love to fill out 00:58:09.274 --> 00:58:16.719 - the roster. The update is I talked to the mayor's office and they have extended an invitation to somebody 00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:21.214 - and they're waiting to hear back whether she accepts it or not. 00:58:21.794 --> 00:58:30.207 - We do have a pool of applications, but we're just really not getting anybody that we think would round 00:58:30.207 --> 00:58:38.620 - out the committee well. I guess for me, I feel like we need somebody with arts experience to be on the 00:58:38.620 --> 00:58:39.518 - committee. 00:58:40.002 --> 00:58:46.731 - And I think particularly we need members on the public arts committee and somebody with visual arts 00:58:46.731 --> 00:58:53.730 - experience, I think in particular would be really beneficial. The individual who has had the invitation 00:58:53.730 --> 00:59:00.728 - extended would be like the best human ever to have on the committee, but I'll go quickly because I know 00:59:00.728 --> 00:59:07.390 - we're running out of time. But she's super busy, so I don't know. And we have another possibility. 00:59:07.586 --> 00:59:12.708 - that's where we're at. So I think we're gonna have to think about actively think about who we can recruit 00:59:12.708 --> 00:59:17.734 - or who might be good to serve on the committee. Do you want us to send any recommendations? Please send 00:59:17.734 --> 00:59:22.856 - recommendations. I would love that. Recommendations, why they would be good and any like links, webpages, 00:59:22.856 --> 00:59:27.929 - social media. Do you have to send them to the Mayor's Office? Then they'll have to submit an application 00:59:27.929 --> 00:59:32.810 - to confirm that they're interested in it but I think some of like I said with visual arts experience 00:59:32.810 --> 00:59:33.438 - particularly 00:59:33.570 --> 00:59:39.102 - And speaking to what Austin was talking about, maybe a younger member who could be the mascot to run 00:59:39.102 --> 00:59:44.907 - around and do cool social media stuff. I mean, that's no joke. That's a really good idea. So maybe Austin 00:59:44.907 --> 00:59:50.494 - has some suggestions that I would welcome all. I mean, that's a great idea, but I do want to say that 00:59:50.494 --> 00:59:56.190 - this is a volunteer position, and that's kind of a time commitment. So I wouldn't want to put that kind 00:59:56.190 --> 01:00:01.886 - of pressure on somebody. So whether they are like, oh, I want to join in, or if it's like a commission, 01:00:02.466 --> 01:00:10.691 - each commissioner does one video or does one feature. I just think, yeah, I want to caution kind of 01:00:10.691 --> 01:00:18.998 - that pushing people into that position. Because yeah, we're not getting paid for this. And it can be 01:00:18.998 --> 01:00:27.387 - a lot of work already. So yeah, just to kind of make that work. I think that would be better. We also 01:00:27.387 --> 01:00:31.582 - used to have a very active person in the community 01:00:31.746 --> 01:00:39.592 - more traditional music world. And she would be advocating for all sorts of things I'd never heard of. 01:00:39.592 --> 01:00:47.438 - And a very powerful member of the committee. And well connected in the city. So that might be another 01:00:47.438 --> 01:00:55.208 - aspect of what would be useful to inform us. Definitely, if you guys have anybody in mind, make sure 01:00:55.208 --> 01:00:57.054 - you talk to them first. 01:00:57.314 --> 01:01:03.001 - Like, are you interested? Do you have time? This is kind of the, like I wouldn't probably send the name 01:01:03.001 --> 01:01:08.469 - to Pagebook without their consent or like them being okay, you know, like I can do it. Cause I feel 01:01:08.469 --> 01:01:13.937 - like if we do, if you do all that work and they're like, I don't have time for this, then it's kind 01:01:13.937 --> 01:01:19.514 - of a moot point. So yeah, just something to keep in mind. But you guys are all really well connected. 01:01:19.514 --> 01:01:23.998 - So I'm sure you know a lot of cool folks that would be interested in doing stuff. 01:01:26.818 --> 01:01:34.153 - about that person we just met in the hallway. That's like the bomb of visual arts, what they're doing, 01:01:34.153 --> 01:01:41.631 - right? I mean, I'm just seeing the one. I didn't see all the projects, but from the card it looks pretty 01:01:41.631 --> 01:01:49.251 - cool, yeah. Okay, all right, so we're nearing the end. Any other comments or questions from commissioners? 01:01:49.251 --> 01:01:55.518 - Okay, so finally, do we have any comments from the public? Is the public with us today? 01:01:57.218 --> 01:02:05.228 - So no comments from the public. All right, so there being no further business, I move to adjourn the 01:02:05.228 --> 01:02:13.238 - meeting. Can I get a second? Second. Great. All in favor say yes. Yes. Those opposed say no. Meeting 01:02:13.238 --> 01:02:14.110 - adjourned.