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- Good evening, everybody. We'll go ahead and get started. I'll call to order this meeting of the Bloomington

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- Commission on Sustainability and Resilience at 6.03 p.m. And we will do the roll call. Tara Dunderdale?

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- Here. Here. Justin Vassel? I'm here. Matt Austin? Present. Present. Christopher Miles? Here. Here. Zach

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- Emmerman? Here. Here. Dave Rallo? Here. Here. Quinta Gilley? Here. Here. Alex York? Here. Here.

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- Maria Arstad? Here. Did I pronounce that right? You did.

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- here. Shenghuai Xu, since his regrets. Diana Ogrodowsky. Here. Here. And Ross Carlson. Here. Here.

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- All right. We've only got one absence here. This is good. Full table. Love it. OK. Perfect. So that

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- brings us to the approval of the agenda. Is there any modifications of the agenda? We got a note online

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- that we were not recording. I think that's what Eric is raising his hand about. OK.

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- Yeah, they're recording. Cat's recording. Cat's recording, yeah. I just wanted to make sure that that

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- was acknowledged. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Point of order, would you please admit my note taker, please?

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- Is there somebody waiting in my lobby? No, I think it's a, are you asking to admit a digital, like an

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- AI note taker? It's my note taker, yes. Under a city policy, you are indicated to admit that.

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- It was admitted, and then it was booted out, so if you

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- Please admit that again. Thank you. Yeah, we'll take a moment to try to sort that out. Thank you. Is

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- there a way you can push it forward again? We're not seeing any option where we can admit any. If you

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- have intentionally removed it from the meeting, this might pose a conundrum.

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- Indiana code that is an allowed thing. It's not automated, folks. Can you try to come back? I am at

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- this moment, yeah. Okay. So I can follow up with you later, but this is a very vexing problem. I'm not

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- sure what the issue is, but thank you. I don't want to take any more of your time. Please continue.

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- Okay. Yeah, I don't know if it would help to have

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- him leave the Zoom room and then come back in and try it again? You're welcome to give that a shot.

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- The reason is you removed it from the meeting, I believe intentionally, and that action then bars it

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- from coming back in. So it is in the waiting room right now or it's attempted to. But again, I don't

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- want to take any more of your time.

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- Apologies for now. We've had some meetings where it's automatically joining, so we've removed it. We

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- didn't know that you had intentionally invited the AI. I'm sorry to interject. Point of order, it doesn't

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- matter whether it's automatic or not. It's an attendee. But in this case, what? Yeah, I don't know.

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- There's no waiting room that is visible to us. You'll probably have to follow up with IP, but I can

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- follow up later. But please continue. Thank you. Well, as you said, Eric, could you leave and then re-enter

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- and perhaps we can then have that option show again? It is not. So I am joined using my Zoom account.

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- That's what I'm attending and communicating with you now.

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- There is a separate attendee. And that attendee is now not being visible because it has been intentionally

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- removed. That's a feature of Zoom. So if you remove someone from an attendee from a meeting, if they

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- attempt to rejoin, you do not see that. But you are not supposed to, under Indiana code and limits and

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- policy, not supposed to remove no attendee.

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- Anyway, I don't think there's anything to be done at this point, but we can follow up later, thank you.

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- All right, yeah, apologies for that. Okay, so we'll go through the approval of the agenda. Are there

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- any modifications to the agenda as circulated? Okay. I'm thinking, do we wanna move the elections up

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- earlier in the schedule in case we run short on time by the end?

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- Most of the meeting format is set in the bylaws, and new business is the only place that makes sense

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- for the elections to go, so that's where I just put it. But we could put that after commissioner reports

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- and before discussions. That be all right? I would make a motion. Yeah. All right. To move that. I'll

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- second it. All right. That's a motion. I'll second. Just so that we get the elections done. Perfect.

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- And make it that. OK, so that's to move item number 12A after number

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- the elections after number six commissioner reports and before number seven discussions of topics not

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- the subject of resolution. I need to debate and we don't have any meeting online so we can just do this

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- by consent so all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Any abstentions? Okay the agenda is amended are

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- there any further amendments to the agenda?

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- Okay, perfect. That'll bring us on to approval of the minutes from February 10th, 2026. Are there any

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- corrections to those minutes as circulated? Okay. Is there a motion to approve? Motion to approve. Okay.

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- And a second? Second. And a second. All right. Any discussion? All right. All those in favor say aye.

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- Aye. All opposed nay. Any abstentions? The minutes are approved.

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- Okay, so that brings us to public comment. So we've got 10 minutes set aside for this, um, up to three

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- minutes per person. Um, I don't see anybody in the public gallery in the room, I don't think, uh, but

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- is there anyone on Zoom who would like to address the commission? Okay, I'm not seeing any activity

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- there. Um, so we'll move on to conditional reports. Um, so,

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- Again, I don't have slides for you this time, apologies. I've just been typing it out as notes recently.

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- But yeah, so we'll go through the organizational updates. As you can see, things are looking pretty

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- good. We only have, I think, two vacancies at the moment.

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- And we have a new member with us. So Maria Arstad is a mayoral appointment to the commission starting

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- this meeting. So you do want to introduce yourself to the commission, say a little bit about your background

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- and maybe what your interest in sustainability and resilience is. Hi, I'm Maria. I'm a project coordinator

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- at IU and most of my work right now is over in the trades district. I work on that CCC grant.

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- which was from the Lilly endowment to IU with the city of Bloomington as a partner and a sub awardee.

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- So our goals are just to accelerate development in the trades district and contribute to placemaking

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- efforts, put in public art and sort of activate the area. So yeah, my main interests are sustainability

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- in the realm of economic development, but I'm just

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- Really looking forward to being involved and contributing. Perfect. Welcome. Yes. Um, and, uh, uh,

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- let's see. Yeah. So, um, so we've got 12 out of 14 seats filled right now. So our core threshold is

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- seven. Um, and, uh, Shanghai, uh, will be wrapping up his doctoral program recent, uh, soon, which is

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- really exciting. Um, and he's going to be moving away from Bloomington probably around the end of April.

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- Um, so congratulations to him.

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- and he wasn't able to make it tonight. He had another engagement, but hopefully he'll join us for the

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- meeting in April and we can bid him a proper farewell at that point. And he did mention that he is still

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- hoping to sneak in another sustainability forum. We had one of those so far and he wants to do another

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- one before he wraps things up. So we'll look out for that.

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- Just a quick follow-up on resolution 2026-01, which we adopted after a second reading last time. That

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- was applauding the city's response to the lapse in federal funding for SNAP benefits. So just wanted

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- to let everyone know that that resolution has been forwarded on to the relevant offices, office of the

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- mayor, community and family resources department, and council. So thank you, Sean and Jolie, for getting

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- those to where they need to go. The strategic planning retreat.

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- So we're going to find a time and format that works for both commissioners and for staff. So keep an

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- eye out for announcements between this meeting and next, probably. Thinking a little more about the

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- timing for this, I think late March or early April is actually a pretty solid time to do this, if it's

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- going to be something that we do every year. Naturally, it kind of makes sense to start thinking about

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- it after the start of the year. But of course, then in February, we have terms switch over.

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- And then in March, we have our elections.

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- It might not make that much sense to do a lot of strategic planning and then have a bunch of turnover

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- or something, right? So this might actually work out pretty well. So yeah, stay tuned for that. 2025

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- annual report, still getting the final details on that. And then the O'Neill School capstone project

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- on sustainability energy utilities. So Alex had worked to set kind of a final,

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- an in stone date for the final presentation on those results. And so it's scheduled for Tuesday, April

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- 28th from 530 to 630. So it's the same day of the week, but a different week in the month than we usually

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- meet. And it's a little bit earlier than we normally meet. And that'll be in council chambers. And so

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- it's a different venue as well. So this will be an official meeting for BCOS. So it will be noticed and

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- But we want to make sure everyone can attend that, or at least we can get a quorum there. It would be

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- pretty awful if we showed up and weren't able to do a quorum for something like that. So I did put together

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- a very simple form for you to just indicate whether you can make it or not. And I've linked it here

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- in this report, but I'll send out an email with that as well, and maybe a couple reminders as we get

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- closer to that date. So we can make sure we'll be good for a quorum on that.

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- A couple external updates. Congratulations to Sean and the rest of the sustainability team here at the

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- city for the CDPA list rating that they got for the second year in a row now. That's awesome. The only

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- other one I have on here is that council passed ordinance 2026-04, which renames our commission, among

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- other things. There is also some movement around from different sections

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- of the municipal code to other sections, some kind of consolidation that's happening. So the section

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- of the code that governs BCOS specifically will get moved to section 2.02.120. And if you've looked

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- on the online version of the city code for this, you might not see it there yet, at least as of yesterday,

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- I didn't see it. That gets updated periodically, but those provisions are in effect now.

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- There's a couple miscellaneous reminders and notes just about the waste reduction district, the Monroe

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- County compost bin and rain barrel sale that's going on right now. And the order deadlines for that

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- are April 15th. And then the pickup dates are April 24th or 25th. And then, of course, the city's still

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- championing their Bloomington Energy Works program.

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- continue to spread the word about that. And then one that I didn't add to my report, but I'll just say

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- verbally here, is Earth Day. So we talked about this last time. We had some volunteers that were willing

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- to staff the table. And we were going to talk about some materials that we might start getting together

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- once we have the name change go through. So I just want to remind folks that that's happening. And maybe

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- I'll ask now, Tara, if there's anything else besides

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- you know, new logos or names or whatever for the materials. Is there anything else that you need from

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- the commission to start prepping for that? I don't think so. I need to follow up with Julie about what

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- we can do and what we can order. But I have completed the form to reserve our spot so we can confirm

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- that we have a space at the pavilion. So I think we have another business meeting before that event.

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- So in the interim, I'll talk to Julie and then Ken report back on what we'll have then. OK. Yeah. I

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- think maybe if we want to have copies of the resolutions that we've passed maybe in the last year, people

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- to look at or things like that might be something. OK. Yeah. We could do a form the way we've done other.

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- information collecting from the Commission if people have specific suggestions of materials too. Like

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- if I can compile all of it or you can compile all of it. Okay, awesome. Excellent. Definitely looking

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- forward to that and thanks to everyone who's helping. Okay, as usual I've got a list of resources there

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- if you want to

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- linked to anything in the report. But otherwise, I think that's it for me. So any questions before we

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- move on to the next item? Also, thanks. It looks like we've looked on making things accessible since

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- our new accessibility guidelines are coming into play very soon. I might connect with you more on that.

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- There's a few templates that were provided today that could help going forward. Yeah, thanks for that.

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- Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, definitely feel free to forward those things along to me.

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- Yeah, just took my swing at the requirements and ran it through a couple checkers and stuff, but there's

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- still some pack materials and stuff that need to be sort of propped to alignment there. Awesome. Okay,

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- great. Any other questions? We're getting the screen blinks. I don't know what causes that. It's okay,

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- we can just level this.

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- If you just cross your eyes, it probably looks normal. Okay, perfect. All righty, so that's my report.

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- Matt, do you have anything for us on waste management? I'm going to skip my report this week so we can

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- get on to all the work we've got. Okay, wonderful. All right, that brings us to a report from Councilor

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- Exaficio. Council Member Rallo, do you have anything for us? Just a few things. So, Hopewell Development, which is

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- You know, a big deal that city-owned land that we're developing, including priorities for affordable

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- housing has been, uh, we have a second discussion on it, uh, on March 25th, uh, regular session. And,

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- um, it may conclude that, that evening. We may have some reasonable conditions. We can't amend it as

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- it comes from the planning commission, but we can agree with the petitioner on some reasonable conditions. Um, so.

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- might want to pay attention to that. Another item is that our deliberative session is tomorrow evening

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- at 630. That's to discuss council budget priorities for the year and include things that are related

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- to sustainability, climate action plan, transportation, safe streets for all, affordable housing, food

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- security, renewable energy, and those sorts of things. So that's tomorrow at 630 and that's to indicate to the

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- administration or top priorities from the council. So then when we see the budget later in the year,

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- we hope to see that there's some money devoted for those things. And they follow on things like the

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- climate action plan, et cetera. So I think that's all I've got. Thanks so much. Any questions? Yeah.

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- Yeah. I asked Isaac.

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- and he mentioned I was asking about the resolution we had for the increasing chicken flock sizes and

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- he said you mentioned that in the committee so I wasn't sure what we needed to do to get that up to

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- city council to start debating. You know it's been sort of discussed among members here and there and

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- we're sort of in a tight spot right now because we don't have any administrative staff. Our council

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- attorney and

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- uh, assistant attorney positions have to be filled. So we're sort of in a, in a state of limbo for a

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- little while, but it's certainly on the docket and, uh, I support, I support it. So I think Isabelle

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- is another, uh, person who might sponsor and so forth. So it's there. It's just going to take a while

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- because we're doing what's absolutely necessary just to keep the city. Thank you.

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- Like the name change code, is it something where if we did draft legislation as an amendment to a resolution,

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- it's helpful to counsel? I think that would be a good help, yeah. I mean, it would have to pass the

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- muster of whatever attorney to make sure, you know, I'm not an attorney, you know, but. But as a. Yeah,

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- as a template. That would be great. Love to see that.

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- Thank you very much. Any other questions? All right. Well, then that brings us on the amended agenda

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- to the officer elections. So let me pull up the slides. Let's mention a couple reminders here. I did

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- lower the resolution of my slides a little bit. So at least it's not so giant compared to the rest of

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- the packet materials here. It's still kind of giant. Okay. So you've seen

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- This slide, a couple times before, you don't have to read through all this now. This is kind of just

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- a reference thing, but these are just the rules and requirements that relate to elections in some way,

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- shape, or form for this commission. The real stuff that pertains to us for the most part today is just

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- the description of the different positions here. So we've had a couple discussions about this at previous

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- meetings and about what the format should be and all that, and we sort of just landed on having a more

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- casual process like we've done in the past, where we kind of just go position by position and ask if

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- anyone wants to do it. And then we just work out the votes from there. And so yeah, should be pretty

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- straightforward. And I'm sorry, the last bullet point there on vice chairperson seems to have been cut

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- off there. But it's basically just saying that in the absence of the secretary, the vice chairperson

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- is responsible for taking the minutes. And Tara knows this well. That's right.

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- And again, there's sort of two paradigms. We could have a chairperson slash vice chairperson, which

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- we've done for the last few years, or two co-chairs, where the co-chairs decide how they want to split

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- up responsibilities, and then the commission, at the next meeting, votes on signing off on that, basically.

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- So we'll start at the chairperson and work our way down. So is there anyone who wants to make a nomination

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- for chairperson? I nominate Justin. Second.

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- Thank you. I'll accept the nomination. I guess let me ask if there's other nominations for a chair.

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- Only once. Only twice. All right. Let me ask this. Is there anyone who'd be interested in being a co-chair?

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- Theoretically, I would. To help share the load with you, for you to help share the load theoretically,

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- coming forward are really wanting it, to be completely honest with you. In practice, the vice chair,

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- it says that the chairperson can delegate pretty much whatever they want. So it's functionally the same.

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- It's really a title difference. It's delegated rather than a cooperative discussion making, but it functions

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- effectively the same thing.

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- At least under this administration. All right. Any other nominees for Chipper? All right. In that case,

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- we'll move to a vote. I don't know. Should I call the vote? That seems weird. We need to do a roll call

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- vote. We do need a roll call vote for this, yeah. You have a copy of the agenda in front of you. It's

00:22:00.162 --> 00:22:01.758
- got the list of...

00:22:01.954 --> 00:22:09.183
- people there. And Shing-Wai is the only one who's absent, and I don't think we had anyone else join

00:22:09.183 --> 00:22:16.412
- on that. All right, so. Sorry, I'm doing two jobs. Yep, exactly. Yep, whenever you're ready. I will

00:22:16.412 --> 00:22:23.714
- delegate the floor to the vice chair. So this is for the nomination of Justin Vassel as chair of the

00:22:23.714 --> 00:22:30.654
- commission. Tarun Underdale, yes? Justin Vassel? Yes. Matt Austin? Yes. Christopher Miles? Aye.

00:22:31.298 --> 00:22:40.838
- Zach Emmerman? Yes. Dave Rallo? Yes. Quentin Gilley? Yes. Alex York? Yes. Maria Arstad? Yes.

00:22:40.838 --> 00:22:51.403
- Diana Ogrodowsky? Yes. Ross Carlson? Yes. Congratulations, Justin. Well, thank you very much and thank

00:22:51.403 --> 00:22:54.686
- you for the vote of confidence.

00:22:55.266 --> 00:23:01.523
- I've had a lot of fun being chair. This will probably be the last time that I do it. So start thinking

00:23:01.523 --> 00:23:07.659
- ahead for next year. I think it is good to have new leadership from time to time. But I'm definitely

00:23:07.659 --> 00:23:13.916
- looking forward to the year ahead. So OK, then. And thank you, Tara, for taking the roll call on that.

00:23:13.916 --> 00:23:19.870
- We'll then move on to the vice chairperson position. Are there any nominees for vice chairperson?

00:23:24.674 --> 00:23:32.905
- I'm just going to say, are you interested that I would nominate Zach Ammerman? OK. We have a nomination

00:23:32.905 --> 00:23:40.582
- for Zach. Can we have a second? Excellent. Are there any other nominations for vice chairperson?

00:23:40.582 --> 00:23:49.287
- All right. Hearing none, we'll move on to a vote to elect Zach Ammerman as vice chairperson. Tara Dunderdale?

00:23:49.287 --> 00:23:53.086
- Yes. Yes. Justin Vassel, yes. Matt Austin? Yes.

00:23:53.442 --> 00:24:01.414
- Yes. Christopher Miles? Yes. Yes. Zach Goverman? Yes. Yes. Dave Roller? Yes. Yes. Quentin Gilley? Yes.

00:24:01.414 --> 00:24:09.463
- Yes. Alex Yorke? Yes. Yes. Marina Arstapp? Yes. Yes. Shenglai Xu is absent. Diana Ogrodowsky? Yes. Yes.

00:24:09.463 --> 00:24:17.357
- And Ross Carlson? Yes. Yes. You got a mess of vote. Congratulations. Thank you. OK. That brings us to

00:24:17.357 --> 00:24:22.078
- the secretary position. There are nominations for secretary.

00:24:27.138 --> 00:24:34.328
- If that's what you're looking at, we can do that. All right. We have a nomination for Tara Dunderdale.

00:24:34.328 --> 00:24:41.588
- Second. Second. Perfect. Any other nominations for secretary? I accept. That's good. We should probably

00:24:41.588 --> 00:24:48.709
- confirm that before we hold a vote, shouldn't we? That's right. All right. Contentious elections this

00:24:48.709 --> 00:24:56.318
- year. All right. We'll move on to the vote then to elect Tara Dunderdale as secretary. Tara Dunderdale. Yes.

00:24:56.578 --> 00:25:05.032
- Yes, Justin Vassel, yes. Matt Austin. Yes. Yes. Christopher Miles. Yes. Yes. Zach Armorman. Yes. Yes.

00:25:05.032 --> 00:25:13.568
- Dave Rollin. Yes. Yes. Quinta Gilley. Yes. Yes. Alex York. Yes. Yes. Maria Arstod. Yes. Yes. Changlias

00:25:13.568 --> 00:25:22.685
- Absin. Diana Ogrodowski. Yes. Yes. And Ross Carlson. Yes. Yes. All right. See you now. Nice. Congratulations.

00:25:22.685 --> 00:25:24.094
- Congratulations.

00:25:24.514 --> 00:25:31.235
- And thank you for your service. Continued service. Discovery, I don't know how to spell it. We're unanimous,

00:25:31.235 --> 00:25:37.401
- though. Oh, yeah. Just several times all wrong. All right. And that brings us to our last position,

00:25:37.401 --> 00:25:43.813
- which is the treasurer. This is always the most exciting position to vote for. So just for some context

00:25:43.813 --> 00:25:50.410
- here, the official role of the treasurer is to facilitate the preparation of the annual budget as required

00:25:50.410 --> 00:25:51.582
- by municipal code.

00:25:52.098 --> 00:25:57.919
- We've generally had a zero dollar budget, at least since I've been on the commission, so we don't really

00:25:57.919 --> 00:26:03.629
- prepare a budget. But also to facilitate efforts of the commission members to identify funding sources

00:26:03.629 --> 00:26:09.506
- in order to execute the strategic goals of the commission. We could definitely use a hand in that regard,

00:26:09.506 --> 00:26:15.493
- I would say. But yeah, so currently, Matt Austin is the treasurer. Yeah, questions? I just have a question.

00:26:15.493 --> 00:26:20.926
- If this is an appropriate time to ask one about that. Yeah. So as you've just been elected as the

00:26:21.474 --> 00:26:28.845
- for the next year, do you have any plans that would involve seeking funding that would necessitate something

00:26:28.845 --> 00:26:35.743
- like a formal budget? I think it would be great if we could identify some outside sources of funding,

00:26:35.743 --> 00:26:42.574
- even if we had $1,000 in the bank. That would be awesome, I think. So I think it would be good to at

00:26:42.574 --> 00:26:49.336
- least kind of build up a little bit of that muscle memory and institutional momentum on that front,

00:26:49.336 --> 00:26:51.230
- because it's not that much.

00:26:51.458 --> 00:26:58.835
- Is the treasurer a position that involves grant writing? Potentially. But certainly, you wouldn't be

00:26:58.835 --> 00:27:06.432
- alone in that, right? Other commissioners could help with that as well. Yeah, officially, it would just

00:27:06.432 --> 00:27:13.956
- be identifying grants and then say, somebody apply to this. My personal preference would be to prepare

00:27:13.956 --> 00:27:18.046
- the grant and give it to the treasurer. That's just me.

00:27:22.146 --> 00:27:30.583
- Are you saying you're interested in being a treasurer? Not necessarily. I was just trying to clarify

00:27:30.583 --> 00:27:39.103
- some possibilities. Fair enough. All right. Well, are there any further questions about the treasurer

00:27:39.103 --> 00:27:47.038
- position? Are there any nominations for treasurer? Well, I will put in a nomination for Chris.

00:27:49.154 --> 00:27:57.417
- the only hesitation to have this thing a little up in the air for me to come later in the year, so I'm

00:27:57.417 --> 00:28:05.679
- not the safest bet for an annual position in that regard. I know it wouldn't want to disrupt anything.

00:28:05.679 --> 00:28:14.022
- Fair enough. We have been operating without a secretary for a while. We don't recommend you doing that.

00:28:14.022 --> 00:28:16.830
- Are there monthly duties involved?

00:28:18.178 --> 00:28:28.231
- It's mostly, at this point, a nice resume, sir. Outside of us actually pursuing stuff? Yeah. I'm getting

00:28:28.231 --> 00:28:37.806
- a strong feeling that a full board would be preferred here. We would prefer to have no vacancies in

00:28:37.806 --> 00:28:43.934
- the ranks, but others could also nominate others or themselves.

00:28:46.274 --> 00:28:54.354
- I can't second my own. I second. Okay. Do I have to accept formally? We very much prefer you accept

00:28:54.354 --> 00:29:02.595
- before we vote on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except the nomination and then you can have it, but you can't

00:29:02.595 --> 00:29:10.998
- accept the nomination then. Okay. That would be great. That's right. So it's a volatile situation. With

00:29:10.998 --> 00:29:15.038
- great power. That's right. Okay. Are there any...

00:29:15.554 --> 00:29:23.668
- Are there any additional nominations? Great. This was the position that was really contentional. I know,

00:29:23.668 --> 00:29:31.781
- right? Yeah. How dare you take that position? All right. If there are no further nominations, then we'll

00:29:31.781 --> 00:29:39.817
- move on to a vote to elect Christopher Miles as the treasurer. Tar Donerville? Yes. Yes. Justin Vassel,

00:29:39.817 --> 00:29:44.222
- yes. Matt Austin? Yes. Yes. Christopher Miles? Yes. Yes.

00:29:44.546 --> 00:29:52.915
- Zach Ammerman? Yes. Yes. Dave Rolla? Yes. Yes. Quentin Gilley? Yes. Yes. Alex York? Yes. Yes.

00:29:52.915 --> 00:30:02.175
- Maria Arstod? Yes. Yes. Shane Wye is absent, I believe. Just a little check. Diana Obradosky? Yes. Yes.

00:30:02.175 --> 00:30:10.366
- And Ross Carlson? Yes. Yes. All right. Congratulations, and thank you for your service. OK.

00:30:11.330 --> 00:30:19.733
- That wraps up the elections for 2026. So congratulations to everybody. Well done, and thank you everybody

00:30:19.733 --> 00:30:27.661
- for stepping up. All right, that brings us back to our regularly scheduled programming. Item number

00:30:27.661 --> 00:30:35.589
- seven, discussions of topic, not the subject of resolutions. So that is the commission logo update.

00:30:35.589 --> 00:30:39.870
- And I'm kind of using the word logo loosely here. So.

00:30:40.194 --> 00:30:46.785
- Yeah, exactly. So it's just kind of word art, really. I've put together a couple of options. We can

00:30:46.785 --> 00:30:53.705
- choose to go with one of these options today. We don't have to. We can choose to come up with additional

00:30:53.705 --> 00:31:00.296
- options. Sorry to interrupt you. I just don't want you to get ahead of yourself. I've been informed

00:31:00.296 --> 00:31:07.018
- that commissions are not supposed to actually move forward using the city logo, like the city symbol,

00:31:07.018 --> 00:31:08.798
- and to have a formal logo.

00:31:08.930 --> 00:31:16.715
- I've asked the Office of the Mayor Legal, Julius, to reach out to you with more of a formal explanation

00:31:16.715 --> 00:31:24.426
- about why. I'm sure you're curious about just the policy around that. But yeah, so just to inform you.

00:31:24.426 --> 00:31:32.061
- But isn't it on our city website? Yeah, it's there now. Like on the Bloomington.ian.gov? Yeah. That's

00:31:32.061 --> 00:31:36.478
- our current logo right now, isn't it? That's what's on it.

00:31:36.642 --> 00:31:42.421
- Our page, our commission page. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know if it's on the website, but it's on all

00:31:42.421 --> 00:31:48.257
- of our documents, like our resolutions and things, which is, I mean, if we need to change it, you need

00:31:48.257 --> 00:31:54.093
- to change it. But that is the preset thing, I think. I mean, we could just remove the seal from it and

00:31:54.093 --> 00:32:00.042
- just have a masthead, just the words, at least for now until, and maybe we get other guidance and decide

00:32:00.042 --> 00:32:03.102
- if there's a process or something, or we could always

00:32:03.298 --> 00:32:11.187
- Make our own logo or something, have any fun. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Sorry, I got really excited.

00:32:11.187 --> 00:32:19.569
- We could also, I've noticed some of the other commissions have done youth essay contests. We could do

00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:27.869
- an art contest. Oh, yeah, that would be cool. I just have one point. Yeah. If the concern be is that

00:32:27.869 --> 00:32:30.334
- it scrunches the bottom line,

00:32:31.618 --> 00:32:39.636
- Is there policy reasons you couldn't use an ampersand and increase the font visibility? I wouldn't have

00:32:39.636 --> 00:32:47.576
- an issue with that. I think it serves the same. That would help a little bit, yeah. I imagine we could

00:32:47.576 --> 00:32:55.516
- do that. I like the third one, especially if the city is going to say, you can't use any of our stuff.

00:32:55.516 --> 00:32:59.294
- That one's the one that's the easiest and is our

00:33:00.066 --> 00:33:07.199
- I think if you can't, this is single. Our mission central, yeah. If I had to pick between those three,

00:33:07.199 --> 00:33:14.125
- I'd go with up and C, yeah, as well. Agreed. Agreed. OK. That's pretty easy. Anyone who's like A or

00:33:14.125 --> 00:33:21.051
- B, that's the one. Any dissenting opinions? Correct. I'd like to be better for the waiting, but I'd

00:33:21.051 --> 00:33:27.838
- rather be here. How does that one look in the back of the room? You're seeing it from a distance.

00:33:28.258 --> 00:33:36.990
- I mean, when it was stable, when I was looking at my phone earlier, I mean, I'd like that it is focused

00:33:36.990 --> 00:33:45.554
- on our less on the commission and more on the mission of the work. And that's like the thing that is.

00:33:45.554 --> 00:33:54.035
- For option C, you're talking about? Yeah. OK, yeah, same. Yeah. And I think if the city doesn't want

00:33:54.035 --> 00:33:55.294
- us to be using

00:33:55.746 --> 00:34:03.519
- City Branding, that was also the farthest from City Branding. Yeah, just because it doesn't say City

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:11.369
- of Bloomington, that sort of thing. Do you know, smidge off topic, but are we going to go by BCOSR or

00:34:11.369 --> 00:34:19.066
- BCSR? That's a good question. I've seen some instances of BCOSR in emails. I've seen one with the R

00:34:19.066 --> 00:34:24.222
- in parentheses. I think I still refer to it as BCOS at some point.

00:34:25.186 --> 00:34:32.125
- We can also talk about that now, because I think it's all part of the kind of branding discussion. What

00:34:32.125 --> 00:34:38.797
- do folks think about that? I thought that was settled. I thought we were just Bcos, but we have the

00:34:38.797 --> 00:34:45.603
- R. I know we've talked about it a little bit before. But I mean, I'm not partial to that necessarily.

00:34:45.603 --> 00:34:52.542
- I think saying it out loud, rolling off the tongue, like Bcos rolls off tongue, Bcos, it kind of works.

00:34:55.682 --> 00:35:01.090
- I think part of the reason why, when we were thinking of the different variations of the name that we

00:35:01.090 --> 00:35:06.551
- went with, you know, just and resilience, was that it still had the same core. And those things didn't

00:35:06.551 --> 00:35:12.013
- get flipped around anywhere. Well, I think we were afraid it would be confusing, too, for anyone who's

00:35:12.013 --> 00:35:17.421
- switching over, if they are familiar with PCOS at all. Right, yeah. And this would just be stuff that

00:35:17.421 --> 00:35:22.829
- we would use on our own internal documents, because we can't. Yeah. We don't abbreviate. Yeah. And we

00:35:22.829 --> 00:35:25.374
- don't make public. We can't independently make.

00:35:25.730 --> 00:35:33.207
- like press releases, it has to go through the city's legal department, and branding is part of that

00:35:33.207 --> 00:35:40.684
- probably. So yeah, because, because, I guess just to use it however you want. OK, great. So part of

00:35:40.684 --> 00:35:48.310
- the reason this is on the agenda for today is just because we have this event coming up where we want

00:35:48.310 --> 00:35:54.142
- to print some stuff. So we want to have something that we can print on there.

00:35:54.242 --> 00:36:00.440
- It sounds like people are mostly in consensus about option C. Do we want to take a quick vote on that?

00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:06.578
- It can even just be a voice vote for option C minus the city seal. And then at a later meeting, if we

00:36:06.578 --> 00:36:12.896
- hear back from Julius or the team at the city and there's a way to appropriate that again, we can always

00:36:12.896 --> 00:36:18.974
- revisit it at another time. Awesome. All right. So yeah, let's move to a vote on that then to adopt.

00:36:19.362 --> 00:36:27.967
- option C without the city seal as sort of the official masthead going forward. All those in favor say

00:36:27.967 --> 00:36:36.403
- aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Any abstentions. All right perfect. It is approved. Thank you very much.

00:36:36.403 --> 00:36:45.598
- Okay that brings us to agenda item eight resolutions for second reading. So resolution 2026-02 and there's a

00:36:46.146 --> 00:36:53.884
- couple items in the packet here related to this. The first one that we have here is this community joint

00:36:53.884 --> 00:37:01.401
- letter supporting the resolution. And this was mentioned at our last meeting. We had some folks speak

00:37:01.401 --> 00:37:08.844
- during public comment, and they read the text of this letter out loud and mentioned that they had, I

00:37:08.844 --> 00:37:10.686
- want to say roughly 150.

00:37:10.978 --> 00:37:19.746
- 155 signatures at the time. And I think since that meeting, they got an additional 20 some. And so this

00:37:19.746 --> 00:37:28.515
- version in the packet is the version that has the full list of signatures in it. So I wanted to include

00:37:28.515 --> 00:37:37.367
- that there for the record. And then there's this memo that was written by the sponsors of the resolution

00:37:37.367 --> 00:37:40.318
- just laying out. This is the TLDR.

00:37:40.418 --> 00:37:47.375
- purpose of the resolution because it's a bit longer. So we won't go through and read this right now,

00:37:47.375 --> 00:37:54.470
- but you should have a copy of it in front of you or near you if you want to take a look. And then here

00:37:54.470 --> 00:38:01.841
- we have the core of the resolution language. So there's a lot of whereas clauses. That's a lot of research

00:38:01.841 --> 00:38:08.798
- type stuff. And then there's four sections to the, you know, therefore, sorry, five sections to the,

00:38:09.378 --> 00:38:17.515
- Therefore, be it resolved sections. So section one there is just findings. Section two are recommendations

00:38:17.515 --> 00:38:25.119
- to the common council. I do have an amendment queued up to make some changes to that. Section three

00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:32.800
- is recommendations to city administration. Section four is a statement of values for the commission.

00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:36.830
- And then section five is just who this should go to.

00:38:38.338 --> 00:38:44.385
- I guess I'll open it up for discussion. And maybe real quick before we open the floor, I'll just mention

00:38:44.385 --> 00:38:50.202
- that the amendment that I have queued up is just a couple of things. A lot of it's just bookkeeping.

00:38:50.202 --> 00:38:56.076
- We did have a name change since then. So it's just going through and replacing all of those. And then

00:38:56.076 --> 00:39:02.296
- in the first instance of that name change, I've just put in parentheses the commission, because I reference

00:39:02.296 --> 00:39:07.134
- the commission referring to us several times throughout the resolution. Same thing.

00:39:07.394 --> 00:39:14.790
- a sustainable development goal mentioned somewhere, and then there's SDG listed later, and so I just

00:39:14.790 --> 00:39:22.332
- wanted to put a parenthesis there. Again, there were some code changes, so our section of the code for

00:39:22.332 --> 00:39:29.727
- BCOS, BCOSR, isn't 2.12.100 anymore, it's 2.02.120, so there's some changes there. And then the only

00:39:29.727 --> 00:39:36.830
- real substantive thing is a new whereas clause that would go right at the end, and that is just,

00:39:37.186 --> 00:39:43.534
- Um, referencing what city council has done since the last time we met, um, which was they passed their

00:39:43.534 --> 00:39:49.944
- own resolution, um, about, um, flock and automated license plate readers. Um, and, uh, that resolution,

00:39:49.944 --> 00:39:56.415
- um, you know, had some, uh, requirements for a briefing to be held, you know, public briefing to council

00:39:56.415 --> 00:40:03.071
- and some other things there. So, so that final whereas clause would just acknowledge that that is something

00:40:03.071 --> 00:40:05.598
- that happened. Um, and then section two.

00:40:05.730 --> 00:40:11.654
- uh, would be rewritten. I've got the language there in the amendment form. Um, that would just be, that

00:40:11.654 --> 00:40:17.349
- would change the recommendations to council to not say, we think you should have a briefing because

00:40:17.349 --> 00:40:23.558
- now they've agreed to do that. Um, so basically, um, just to say, hey, here's, here's some model legislation

00:40:23.558 --> 00:40:29.253
- that we think, uh, you know, would be good for future considerations. Um, so, uh, maybe before I go

00:40:29.253 --> 00:40:35.006
- through the process of actually introducing that amendment, like making a motion for it, let me just

00:40:35.138 --> 00:40:42.013
- Open up the floor to get some initial discussions. Can I just ask if we could just really quickly review

00:40:42.013 --> 00:40:48.692
- what the process is for this? Because I think we're in the nested motions. Yeah, that's a good point.

00:40:48.692 --> 00:40:55.501
- Yeah, so basically what we'll do, and that's actually a good point, because really the next step should

00:40:55.501 --> 00:41:01.918
- be to somebody makes a motion to adopt this, and then there's a second. And then we enter debate.

00:41:02.210 --> 00:41:07.240
- and so that's when we have all of our discussions, that's when amendments get offered, that sort of

00:41:07.240 --> 00:41:12.774
- thing. So then if an amendment is being offered, somebody makes a motion during that debate for an amendment,

00:41:12.774 --> 00:41:18.005
- somebody seconds it, then we move into debate about that amendment. So now we're kind of in this nested

00:41:18.005 --> 00:41:23.237
- thing, like we're just in amendment mode. And then once we're done with discussion, we then have a vote

00:41:23.237 --> 00:41:28.669
- on that amendment, it either passes or it fails, and then we're back into the broader resolution discussion

00:41:28.669 --> 00:41:30.430
- where more amendments can be made,

00:41:30.562 --> 00:41:39.351
- or we can wrap up discussion and move to a final vote to adopt. So does that process make sense? No,

00:41:39.351 --> 00:41:48.139
- we can make the amendments right here. It's just the initial reading of the unamended version has to

00:41:48.139 --> 00:41:56.928
- be done twice. So given that, let me make a motion to adopt this resolution so we can actually go to

00:41:56.928 --> 00:41:58.494
- the debate phase.

00:41:58.754 --> 00:42:06.541
- And there's a second, okay. So now we're in the debate phase. Any other questions or anything about

00:42:06.541 --> 00:42:14.328
- this before we tackle the amendment? Okay, not hearing any. So I'll make a motion then to amend the

00:42:14.328 --> 00:42:22.427
- resolution as provided for in the resolution amendment form that I attached to the packet. Let me bring

00:42:22.427 --> 00:42:26.398
- that up on the screen just so everyone can see it.

00:42:27.362 --> 00:42:32.697
- Is this one motion for all of the amendments? So the changes in code? Yeah, I'm just doing all this

00:42:32.697 --> 00:42:38.138
- as a batch. I figured that would be a much easier thing to do. Again, the only real substantive thing

00:42:38.138 --> 00:42:43.633
- is this new language about what city council has done since the last time we met, and the rest is just

00:42:43.633 --> 00:42:48.967
- kind of like housekeeping stuff. I think that we could nest one level further if we wanted to amend

00:42:48.967 --> 00:42:54.622
- the amendment. We can amend on an amendment. Yeah, but then beyond that, you've got to edit stuff, right?

00:42:54.622 --> 00:42:55.262
- Yeah, yeah.

00:42:55.394 --> 00:43:01.357
- Yeah, so we can inception that if we want for that level. Yeah, like, I mean, if somebody saw like a

00:43:01.357 --> 00:43:07.379
- typo in my amendment here, that would be a time to amend the amendment, right? Yeah, so yeah, so this

00:43:07.379 --> 00:43:13.341
- is what the amendment is, and it did include in the pack materials, hopefully people got a chance to

00:43:13.341 --> 00:43:19.777
- take a look, just the change log here of what it would actually look like where these changes are happening.

00:43:19.777 --> 00:43:23.614
- So you can see the bulk of the stuff is kind of at the end here.

00:43:25.890 --> 00:43:31.655
- But let me bring it back up to that summary form, because it's a little easier to see everything at

00:43:31.655 --> 00:43:37.766
- once. So any discussion about the amendment? Sorry. You moved to adopt the amendment. Was there a second?

00:43:37.766 --> 00:43:43.589
- Oh, yeah. No, sorry. I did move to adopt the amendment, and I don't think there was a second, right?

00:43:43.589 --> 00:43:49.412
- So was there a second? Second. OK. Thank you. Great. So now we're in discussion. Any thoughts on the

00:43:49.412 --> 00:43:50.046
- amendment?

00:43:55.554 --> 00:44:04.912
- I think these are good changes. I mean, some of them are necessary changes for it to be correct, given

00:44:04.912 --> 00:44:14.089
- the changes that have happened to city code and our commission. And I think it's useful to reference

00:44:14.089 --> 00:44:23.902
- the work that council has already done. Perfect. Any other comments? All right. Then we can move to a vote.

00:44:24.034 --> 00:44:34.151
- on the amendment to the resolution. Just jot down a note for myself here. Okay, and we'll do a roll

00:44:34.151 --> 00:44:44.774
- call vote for all this stuff. Yeah, okay, so on the amendment to the resolution, Tara? Yes. Yes, Justin,

00:44:44.774 --> 00:44:53.374
- yes. Matt? Yes. Yes, Christopher? Yes. Yes, Zach? Yes. Yes, Dave? Yes. Quentin? Yes.

00:44:53.506 --> 00:45:02.936
- Yes. Alex? Yes. Yes. Maria? Yes. Yes. Shang Lai is the last one. Diana? Yes. Yes. And Ross? Yes. Yes.

00:45:02.936 --> 00:45:12.367
- Okay. The amendment passes 11 to 0. Okay. So that brings us back into the main resolution. So this is

00:45:12.367 --> 00:45:21.705
- a time to discuss the resolution, ask questions, share your thoughts about it, or propose additional

00:45:21.705 --> 00:45:22.814
- amendments.

00:45:23.074 --> 00:45:29.468
- I will note that I had sent out some emails about if there were amendments that people wanted to bring

00:45:29.468 --> 00:45:35.739
- forward, they could send in a spreadsheet with those details. I didn't get anything back. But if you

00:45:35.739 --> 00:45:42.195
- still had something you wanted to amend, we can still do that here live. I had a thought that I'm sorry

00:45:42.195 --> 00:45:48.403
- that I'm this late in bringing up. I would leave it to you all to decide whether or not it warrants

00:45:48.403 --> 00:45:52.190
- amendment. So I'd like the resolution as is of no issue with

00:45:52.290 --> 00:46:00.071
- adopting it as is. The only thought I had was, so I appreciate invoking the code that establishes the

00:46:00.071 --> 00:46:08.386
- commission and even you would presumably invoke the code that establishes the department that the commission

00:46:08.386 --> 00:46:16.091
- is under. In terms of linking the thesis of the amendment to the rationale for the board's existence

00:46:16.091 --> 00:46:22.270
- and its mandate, one thing I thought that I didn't necessarily notice here might

00:46:23.202 --> 00:46:31.362
- add something to that is Flock is a company that operates using enormous amounts of computing power

00:46:31.362 --> 00:46:39.685
- for machine learning, is an advocate for data center construction, employs quote unquote AI, which is

00:46:39.685 --> 00:46:47.600
- a major tapper of all kinds of different water resources, and so on and so on. There is a direct

00:46:47.600 --> 00:46:52.414
- sustainability quotient, not even getting into like mining

00:46:52.930 --> 00:47:00.296
- and conflict minerals, et cetera, that I think the question of enlisting more and more, quote unquote,

00:47:00.296 --> 00:47:08.020
- AI concerns, doing the business of city government, et cetera, I think would add something to the rationale

00:47:08.020 --> 00:47:15.171
- that is already laid out here and already linked to the SDG mandate in your proposal. So that's why

00:47:15.171 --> 00:47:21.822
- I say, I don't know how significant this is, but I didn't know of explicit language to that.

00:47:21.922 --> 00:47:27.746
- would align this even more obviously for someone taking a look at it, wondering why a sustainability

00:47:27.746 --> 00:47:33.744
- commission would be the sort of one out front on this or not. But that was just a thought. I don't know

00:47:33.744 --> 00:47:39.511
- if it's worth amending. I don't know how much work that would take. And I don't want people to have

00:47:39.511 --> 00:47:45.566
- to stay late today if they don't want to. Sure. Any other thoughts on that? That's a good point. I think

00:47:45.566 --> 00:47:51.102
- it's a really good point. Can I address that question? In terms of what the additional work is,

00:47:51.330 --> 00:47:58.420
- writing down the additional whereas clause that we want to add in here. I would have had that done.

00:47:58.420 --> 00:48:06.148
- Yeah. I was looking at this before the meeting, and I was like, I have not had the time to write a paragraph

00:48:06.148 --> 00:48:13.239
- to someone to you. I apologize for not having it. That said, that angle of it could also be grounds

00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:17.918
- for a subsequent resolution from the commission as well, on FLOC.

00:48:18.594 --> 00:48:24.185
- or automated license plate reader specifically, or on the city's use of technology that relies on data

00:48:24.185 --> 00:48:29.722
- centers and that kind of machine learning in general. I think either of those would be. And I do have

00:48:29.722 --> 00:48:35.367
- plans to potentially work on something having to do with data centers as well. So we can work that into

00:48:35.367 --> 00:48:40.958
- that if you want to do it in a second. And other commissioners have started some of that work as well.

00:48:56.290 --> 00:49:05.511
- I said this last time, I'll say it again, I'm super in support of this, I think it's fantastic, and

00:49:05.511 --> 00:49:14.732
- I think it's exactly the sort of work we should be doing. I'll throw a prompt out there. What about

00:49:14.732 --> 00:49:24.414
- section five here? So I picked out a couple of organizations to send this to. So the mayor, con council,

00:49:24.706 --> 00:49:32.299
- City Clerk, Corporation Council, Chief of Police, Board of Public Safety, and Bloomington-Monroe County

00:49:32.299 --> 00:49:39.892
- Human Rights Commission. Those are kind of the organizations that, in my mind, had some clear alignment

00:49:39.892 --> 00:49:47.266
- with this, some of them for different reasons. Does this seem like a good list to folks? Is anything

00:49:47.266 --> 00:49:51.646
- missing? Does one of these things not seem like it belongs?

00:49:52.290 --> 00:49:58.345
- Does it fall in? Maybe this would be a question of a subsequent one, but if the environmental commission

00:49:58.345 --> 00:50:04.342
- would be relevant. But I think that would require that. It would be more in their wheelhouse if we were

00:50:04.342 --> 00:50:10.108
- talking more explicitly about the data center impact. Yeah. I mean, I do think that this resolution

00:50:10.108 --> 00:50:16.278
- stands on its legs on its own, like the sociable sustainability side. That being said, including a whereas

00:50:16.278 --> 00:50:17.374
- wouldn't have been

00:50:18.114 --> 00:50:25.574
- terrible, but I don't have any problem sending it to the Environmental Commission to see if they want

00:50:25.574 --> 00:50:32.887
- to do some of that work on their side, if they're interested in that. Yeah. I mean, there's nothing

00:50:32.887 --> 00:50:40.346
- stopping you informally from sending it to the Chair. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I can just agree to do

00:50:40.346 --> 00:50:47.806
- that, but even if it's not enough. Yeah. Four other organizations since Monroe County and IU are both

00:50:48.450 --> 00:50:54.463
- users of Flock, would it maybe be a good idea to send something to those organizations to be like, hey,

00:50:54.463 --> 00:51:00.361
- you know, very closely related community, is this something that you're recommending and thinking of?

00:51:00.361 --> 00:51:06.143
- Yeah, that's a good point. I think that could be valid, but since we're not technically part of the

00:51:06.143 --> 00:51:12.041
- Monroe County or IU, could we add that to the, I don't know, I think it would be something you'd have

00:51:12.041 --> 00:51:14.238
- to do informally, right, on the site?

00:51:14.338 --> 00:51:20.607
- I think, I mean, we can always send them something if we just need to identify who the right POC is.

00:51:20.607 --> 00:51:27.125
- Yes. You know what I mean? Just put it in the resolution. Yeah? OK. I think putting it in the resolution

00:51:27.125 --> 00:51:33.394
- would just carry the weight of saying, like, hey, this is... We're formally addressing this. Yes. We

00:51:33.394 --> 00:51:40.222
- wanted you to get this, not just, like, we've set this to all the community partners. I think that the, like,

00:51:40.482 --> 00:51:47.514
- really integrated jurisdictional nature of our community between like, are you counting? I mean, I know

00:51:47.514 --> 00:51:54.411
- that this is really impactful for like pedestrian safety, right? Is that like some of these roads are

00:51:54.411 --> 00:52:01.172
- I use and some of these are ours and some of these are the counties and then we'll get the state in

00:52:01.172 --> 00:52:08.542
- there. Um, so like this is, yeah, we are an integrated community of jurisdictions. And I think it's parking.

00:52:08.898 --> 00:52:17.107
- is who's currently using ALPRs on IU's campus. Oh, is it? It's not IUPD? Well, I don't know who owns

00:52:17.107 --> 00:52:25.315
- it, but it is being piloted currently in their parking facilities. So if we did this, what would the

00:52:25.315 --> 00:52:33.687
- amendment be to add it to board of trustees? And county council? County council, county council. Yeah,

00:52:33.687 --> 00:52:38.238
- and commissioners. Who else with IU? I mean, you could-

00:52:38.338 --> 00:52:44.617
- You could say the faculty council. You could say the parking. You could say parking facilities. It could

00:52:44.617 --> 00:52:50.836
- be the Office of Sustainability, even at IU. I mean, that's just sending it to Quinton. Well, you could

00:52:50.836 --> 00:52:57.174
- send it to... Formally sending it to Quinton. Yeah. Well, I would say you could send it to Transportation

00:52:57.174 --> 00:53:03.274
- Demand Management over there as well. Okay. Okay. Would there be a value in sending it to IUBD? Yeah,

00:53:03.274 --> 00:53:04.350
- that would be so.

00:53:04.450 --> 00:53:13.844
- No. No, maybe they're thinking about it. I don't know. It would be viable. Yeah. Should we have the

00:53:13.844 --> 00:53:23.332
- sheriff on there? We could. The county sheriff? Yeah. If we're doing this, it might as well. I don't

00:53:23.332 --> 00:53:33.854
- know if it would hurt. Sorry, I'm like, the pain about procedure. So are we proposing a single amendment to add

00:53:34.562 --> 00:53:42.614
- and then create a list of additional bodies that we want to transmit it to? OK. Yeah, it might be helpful

00:53:42.614 --> 00:53:50.362
- to get that core list and then make the motion. Yeah. I just want to write down what you were saying.

00:53:50.362 --> 00:53:58.033
- Because who really has, let's take IU for example, who has control over that? Is that something that

00:53:58.033 --> 00:54:04.414
- comes up to the board of trustees level? Is that something that they can, you know,

00:54:04.514 --> 00:54:11.337
- Obviously, they have a lot of policy-making power on campus, but is that something you want to say?

00:54:11.337 --> 00:54:18.365
- That's implementation stuff. Yeah. I was just going to say parking falls under auxiliaries, I believe,

00:54:18.365 --> 00:54:24.915
- which is Luke Cliff, which is office. I believe the person that's Amanda Turnip seen. I'm going

00:54:24.915 --> 00:54:29.214
- to double-check that. Somebody knows that they're using it for

00:54:29.410 --> 00:54:37.262
- I know that they're using it for parking because I'm an employee and it's in their parking documentation

00:54:37.262 --> 00:54:44.891
- that you still have to use your hang tag. Supposedly they'll let us get rid of the tags eventually if

00:54:44.891 --> 00:54:52.593
- it works. Yeah, but it's not in a few facilities, but I don't think they tell us which ones. Have they

00:54:52.593 --> 00:54:53.790
- been deflocked?

00:54:55.074 --> 00:55:00.672
- I don't know. I don't, I don't, I have like a commuter pass. So I go to park on campus like once a month.

00:55:00.672 --> 00:55:05.954
- So if we're making a list, do we have a, uh, I don't think it hurts to do the board of trustees and

00:55:05.954 --> 00:55:11.446
- the president of our units that we're not, not even going to do anything, but it's still just formally,

00:55:11.446 --> 00:55:17.150
- they're technically the people in charge of. Sure. They work in our city. Yeah. Yeah. So board of trustees,

00:55:17.150 --> 00:55:21.534
- president, Monroe County commission, Monroe County council, sheriff, and who else?

00:55:29.090 --> 00:55:35.541
- you parking operations yeah they have a whole thing about it on their website yeah well and I'll have

00:55:35.541 --> 00:55:41.865
- an official email address yeah so it doesn't necessarily need to be like I need the you know person

00:55:41.865 --> 00:55:48.695
- can you say that list again are you parking operations board of trustees president Monroe County Commission

00:55:48.695 --> 00:55:55.209
- Monroe County Council say all members of the Monroe County Commission all members of the Monroe County

00:55:55.209 --> 00:55:58.750
- Council and the sheriff okay there's no disadvantage in

00:55:59.202 --> 00:56:05.954
- created a very large list. I don't think you want a very like a super exhaustive list. I think there

00:56:05.954 --> 00:56:12.907
- is some intention to try and make it targeted to like these were the people that we wanted to call out.

00:56:12.907 --> 00:56:19.660
- It should be intentional. Yeah. Did we want to say IUPD or no? I don't really care, but I sound like

00:56:19.660 --> 00:56:26.078
- people are saying no. So I don't. Yeah. As far as I'm aware, it's just under parking right now.

00:56:28.482 --> 00:56:34.661
- Monroe County Council and Monroe County Commissioners, does it make sense to send to both, or is there

00:56:34.661 --> 00:56:40.840
- one venue that's more appropriate for this? I have to admit, I don't totally understand the difference

00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:47.379
- between the two, and they have the same acronyms. The council is the one that passes the budget. Legislated,

00:56:47.379 --> 00:56:53.378
- legislative, executive. Yeah. So you're sending it to the city council and the mayor, which I think

00:56:53.378 --> 00:56:54.398
- both make sense.

00:57:00.962 --> 00:57:08.863
- Okay, so Board of Trustees, IU President, the County Sheriff, IU Parking Operation, and all members

00:57:08.863 --> 00:57:16.923
- of the Monroe County Council and all members of the Monroe County Commission. Did I miss any on that?

00:57:16.923 --> 00:57:25.377
- That sounds good. We can add the lawyer, the county lawyer too, but I don't think that's really necessary.

00:57:25.377 --> 00:57:30.750
- I think the county lawyer will get it. Yeah, we've got a good list.

00:57:31.106 --> 00:57:38.694
- I think they'd get anything that goes to the council. That sounds good to me. OK. So yeah, I'll make

00:57:38.694 --> 00:57:46.282
- a motion to add those in that sequence, just kind of the way I stated it. So let's see, where is it?

00:57:46.282 --> 00:57:54.547
- Yeah, right at the end of section five there, I'll get rid of the word and. So it says the Bloomington-Monroe

00:57:54.547 --> 00:57:59.806
- County Human Rights Commission, comma, and then the rest of the list,

00:57:59.906 --> 00:58:07.224
- Indiana University Board of Trustees, Indiana University President, Monroe County Sheriff, Indiana University

00:58:07.224 --> 00:58:13.943
- Parking Operation, all members of the Monroe County Commission, and all members of the Monroe County

00:58:13.943 --> 00:58:20.862
- Council. That's good. So that's my motion. Second. There's a second. All right. Any discussion on that?

00:58:21.730 --> 00:58:31.870
- We'll discuss that. All right. Then we'll move on a vote for that amendment. We'll go down the list.

00:58:31.870 --> 00:58:42.312
- Okay. Tara? Yes. Yes. Justin? Yes. Matt? Yes. Yes. Christopher? Yes. Yes. Zach? Yes. Yes. Councilmember

00:58:42.312 --> 00:58:50.846
- Rauw? Yes. Yes. Quentin Gilley? Yes. Yes. Alex? Yes. Yes. Maria? Yes. Yes. Dan? Yes.

00:58:50.978 --> 00:59:03.262
- Yes, and Ross? Yes. Yes, okay, and then it passes 11 to zero. Okay, so we're back on the original resolution

00:59:03.262 --> 00:59:14.644
- as amended with our two amendments. Any further discussion? All right. Oh yeah. There's a part of me

00:59:14.644 --> 00:59:18.814
- that wants, I was not familiar with,

00:59:19.074 --> 00:59:31.181
- Garrett Blainley, the CEO of Fox, fluttered to the community previously. I kind of want a whereas clause,

00:59:31.181 --> 00:59:42.830
- spelling out just as an extra detail how poor of a response that was. But I also don't know that that

00:59:42.830 --> 00:59:46.942
- really adds much. I'm happy to not.

00:59:49.314 --> 00:59:55.955
- I'm not familiar with the, was this in the packet? It was in the, so I said another addendum packet.

00:59:55.955 --> 01:00:02.530
- The addendum packet? I only got through part of the addendum packet. That's okay, let me pull it up

01:00:02.530 --> 01:00:04.766
- right now. Where's my stop share?

01:00:34.242 --> 01:00:41.100
- Yeah, here it is. So this was sent on Monday, December 8th, 2025. My understanding is that this is actually

01:00:41.100 --> 01:00:48.085
- like a mass email that went out to a bunch of their law enforcement customers. It wasn't just the Bloomington

01:00:48.085 --> 01:00:54.752
- Police Department, but yeah, it's from Flock Safety CEO, Garrett Langley. And the subject is fact check,

01:00:54.752 --> 01:01:01.292
- no hack, we will never stop fighting for you. And I'm guessing you're sort of referring to some of the

01:01:01.292 --> 01:01:03.070
- stuff that's starting like,

01:01:03.266 --> 01:01:13.309
- down here about activists and that law enforcement agencies are under coordinated attack by people who

01:01:13.309 --> 01:01:23.156
- are weaponizing the public records process. Yeah, this email also left a bad taste in my mouth. This

01:01:23.156 --> 01:01:25.886
- was in the packet addendum.

01:01:34.210 --> 01:01:55.881
- I feel like sales will be in touch. It's a weird email to send. The email went out with the meeting

01:01:55.881 --> 01:01:59.998
- notice and packet.

01:02:10.722 --> 01:02:18.853
- typing up some language? I maybe have been working on something during the meeting. Oh, that's totally

01:02:18.853 --> 01:02:26.826
- fine. No, I was just going to ask if you have something you wanted to put forward, if you wanted to.

01:02:26.826 --> 01:02:34.957
- Hi. Does acknowledging this add anything, or is it just that it's kind of under my skin because of the

01:02:34.957 --> 01:02:39.614
- extent of tone deafness of it? Because if people are like,

01:02:40.450 --> 01:02:50.393
- It's good as is. I'm satisfied with that answer. I mean, there's maybe an argument to be made that our

01:02:50.393 --> 01:03:00.046
- linking of this to our mission is in the need for a transparent society, for a sustainable society.

01:03:00.046 --> 01:03:08.638
- And this is saying that transparent society is bad. But I think it would be difficult to

01:03:09.026 --> 01:03:14.673
- It had to be worded really well. Whereas that, yeah. And I think almost, if we worded it and didn't

01:03:14.673 --> 01:03:20.320
- spend a lot of time wording it correctly, it almost is like dignifying this with a response. Almost

01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:26.080
- as better as saying, I don't know, ignore it, kind of, because it's so ridiculous. It lacks substance

01:03:26.080 --> 01:03:32.179
- that I think makes it not worth responding to, I think. It's the slime that you would get from a mini-teal,

01:03:32.179 --> 01:03:37.374
- but I don't know if it is articulatable with the core rationale that you could link to the,

01:03:37.634 --> 01:03:48.073
- mandate of the commission without meaningful work. I think you could do it, but. Yeah. Okay. I think

01:03:48.073 --> 01:03:58.512
- I was just looking through to see if I did mention it, or just like the fact that that email exists,

01:03:58.512 --> 01:04:02.750
- but I don't think that I did. All right.

01:04:03.490 --> 01:04:08.793
- I do appreciate you calling some attention to it, though, because I also had to have that far as the

01:04:08.793 --> 01:04:14.148
- additional materials, and it's a rough one to read. Yeah, yeah. No, sorry, this didn't go out sooner.

01:04:14.148 --> 01:04:19.398
- I think that the addendum packet is part of our meeting materials. I put it in a separate packet so

01:04:19.398 --> 01:04:24.543
- that you wouldn't have to, so that if people wanted to dig into some of this stuff for background

01:04:24.543 --> 01:04:29.793
- information, they could, but it was going to be separate from all the stuff that you really need to

01:04:29.793 --> 01:04:30.686
- read and review.

01:04:31.234 --> 01:04:37.617
- But yeah, I think it should. It's part of official materials. I think it should go up as like a second

01:04:37.617 --> 01:04:43.876
- packet sort of thing. Yeah. But yeah, could you just attach that letter as an exhibit without having

01:04:43.876 --> 01:04:50.135
- to do like? Well, I was just wondering if it's part of our meeting materials. Because I think that I

01:04:50.135 --> 01:04:56.394
- read some of the earlier stuff, and I think it's just useful context for anybody from the public who

01:04:56.394 --> 01:05:00.670
- wants to learn more about why we pursued this as a commission. Yeah.

01:05:00.770 --> 01:05:08.665
- But yeah, but I don't know that it needs to be called out in the resolution itself. But it's great research,

01:05:08.665 --> 01:05:16.053
- and I think valuable for folks to be part of the public. I think it's valuable research to be part of

01:05:16.053 --> 01:05:21.630
- the public record. All right. Any further discussion? Amendments? Et cetera.

01:05:26.978 --> 01:05:37.678
- Okay, hearing none, we'll move on to a vote to adopt Resolution 2026-02 as amended. Tara? Yes. Yes.

01:05:37.678 --> 01:05:48.486
- Justin? Yes. Matt? Yes. Yes. Christopher? Yes. Yes. Zach? Yes. Yes. Councilmember Barallo? Yes. Yes.

01:05:48.486 --> 01:05:56.190
- Quintin? Yes. Yes. Alex? Yes. Yes. Maria? Yes. Yes. Shanglai is absent.

01:05:56.418 --> 01:06:03.611
- Diana? Yes. Yes. And Ross? Yes. Yes. The resolution is adopted, 11 to 0. Very good. So I will make that

01:06:03.611 --> 01:06:10.527
- final amendment that we just talked about in the transmittal section. And I'll incorporate the one,

01:06:10.527 --> 01:06:17.582
- the first round that we got there. And I'll send that around so everybody has the final copy of that.

01:06:17.582 --> 01:06:24.844
- And then we'll get it transmitted out where it needs to go. And then we'll get added to our, is it added

01:06:24.844 --> 01:06:26.366
- as a separate packet?

01:06:26.594 --> 01:06:36.772
- I don't know. Is it on board already? It might be. We can just add it as a second packet. You can have

01:06:36.772 --> 01:06:46.654
- multiple packets. It just gets put up as a packet. Packet practices too. There's five boxes. Let me

01:06:46.654 --> 01:06:53.374
- go back to my agenda here. It'll go on onboard if it's not already.

01:06:59.106 --> 01:07:06.255
- Oh, that's the same one. While I'm pulling this up, we'll move on to agenda item 9A, which is resolutions

01:07:06.255 --> 01:07:13.471
- for first reading, resolution 2026-03, concerning the pedestrianization of Kirkwood Avenue and sustainable

01:07:13.471 --> 01:07:20.215
- transportation. So normally for the first readings, we don't do a whole lot of debate and amendment

01:07:20.215 --> 01:07:24.734
- type stuff. We usually just give a quick intro, and if there's any

01:07:25.858 --> 01:07:35.137
- pertinent questions, like I don't understand this sort of thing, then we can chat about that. Let me

01:07:35.137 --> 01:07:44.416
- pull it up and real quick before we make a motion on that, I also want to, okay, I should not try to

01:07:44.416 --> 01:07:54.430
- talk while I'm actively doing stuff. There we go. Yeah, and before we properly introduce it, I had an email.

01:07:55.298 --> 01:08:01.237
- with a statement today from Jane Coopersmith who's the director of ESD regarding the plans for Kirkwood

01:08:01.237 --> 01:08:07.177
- Kirkwood 2026. I figured I'd just read that statement here and then we'll put that in the official like

01:08:07.177 --> 01:08:13.288
- the packet materials for the next meeting when we go through the adoption portion of it. So that statement

01:08:13.288 --> 01:08:19.227
- reads as follows. City staff is extremely interested in a shared space and more pedestrianization space

01:08:19.227 --> 01:08:21.854
- long-term for Kirkwood. Planning and economic

01:08:22.178 --> 01:08:27.711
- and sustainable development will work together this year on an RFP process for a consultant for a corridor

01:08:27.711 --> 01:08:33.037
- study of Kirkwood to ensure that we consider safety, best design practices, and economic impact. There

01:08:33.037 --> 01:08:38.466
- will be significant public outreach related to the corridor study, which we plan to start in early 2027.

01:08:38.466 --> 01:08:43.688
- There is great appetite for a shared space or more pedestrian-focused space on the part of staff. It

01:08:43.688 --> 01:08:48.962
- is the implementation of this closure that was untenable for the reasons outlaid in our various memos

01:08:48.962 --> 01:08:50.462
- to council and public works.

01:08:51.010 --> 01:08:58.057
- In the meantime, the applications for parklets have launched, and there is a robust slate of space activation

01:08:58.057 --> 01:09:04.592
- and event-related street closures planned that will bring that uniquely Bloomington summer feeling to

01:09:04.592 --> 01:09:11.319
- Kirkwood. So I'll make sure this gets into the packet materials as well. And with that, I will entertain

01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:17.726
- a motion to consider resolution 2026-03 for first reading. So moved. And there is a second. Second.

01:09:18.050 --> 01:09:23.559
- Oh, sorry. Oh, you said some moves. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. OK. And a second. Perfect. OK. So are there

01:09:23.559 --> 01:09:29.068
- any clarifying questions? Or does Zach, do you want to say a few words just about it? Yeah. I mean,

01:09:29.068 --> 01:09:34.797
- briefly, it just goes into the whereas clauses are all basically the context of what brought us to this

01:09:34.797 --> 01:09:40.527
- point. And then the operative clauses are where. So I encourage you to please read the whereas clauses.

01:09:40.527 --> 01:09:46.366
- It kind of goes through the detail of how we got here. There were a couple of footnotes that got cut off.

01:09:46.690 --> 01:09:52.380
- I can maybe add this as an amendment. If there were just additional context, not a big deal. Maybe I

01:09:52.380 --> 01:09:58.126
- can add this as an amendment next time, not a big deal. The operative causes are where the meat of it

01:09:58.126 --> 01:10:03.759
- is. Essentially, I'm recommending that we at a minimum keep the summer closure of Kirkwood to cars.

01:10:03.759 --> 01:10:09.449
- A, B, long term, strongly consider permanently closing Kirkwood to cars and not just doing it in the

01:10:09.449 --> 01:10:11.646
- summer, doing it year round. C, study.

01:10:12.098 --> 01:10:17.587
- Multiple other cities that are college towns that are very similar to Bloomington have successfully

01:10:17.587 --> 01:10:23.132
- done permanent year-round closures that are like the focal point of their entire cities. Study those

01:10:23.132 --> 01:10:28.951
- cities, see what they've done, and implement that here. De-prioritize permanent investment in streetscape

01:10:28.951 --> 01:10:34.550
- improvements. Instead of just closing the street and calling it done, we need to like put benches and

01:10:34.550 --> 01:10:39.710
- planters and things like that to make it a better, more agreeable, more pleasant place to be.

01:10:40.130 --> 01:10:45.055
- I'm suggesting we remove the administration of the program from the Department of Economic and Sustainable

01:10:45.055 --> 01:10:49.704
- Development to planning and transportation, because I fundamentally don't see this as an economic or

01:10:49.704 --> 01:10:54.491
- sustainable development thing. It's more of a planning and public space issue, and I think the planning

01:10:54.491 --> 01:10:59.140
- and transportation department is better equipped. It has more resources to handle that. And I'm also

01:10:59.140 --> 01:11:03.928
- saying that they should recommend it to the council that they repeal Section 7 of Ordinance 2502, which

01:11:03.928 --> 01:11:07.518
- is the ordinance which authorized the summer program, and that is part of the

01:11:07.874 --> 01:11:12.880
- ordinance that allows the city to shut down the program on their own. I'm saying we should just get

01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:18.187
- rid of that. And I think earlier on, I say something about replacing that with requiring council approval

01:11:18.187 --> 01:11:23.194
- to shut it down. So that's essentially what it is. The statement of values then basically says that

01:11:23.194 --> 01:11:28.200
- sustainable cities prioritize people over cars, especially in their most central public places, and

01:11:28.200 --> 01:11:33.357
- that Bloomington's identity as a walkable, bikeable community should be reflected in the design of its

01:11:33.357 --> 01:11:35.710
- most prominent and iconic pedestrian corridor.

01:11:36.386 --> 01:11:41.490
- And then I suggest a whole bunch of people send it in. Yeah, that's the resolution. In a nutshell, I'm

01:11:41.490 --> 01:11:46.395
- happy to take any questions or any concerns you guys have, or if not, we can talk next time. Yeah,

01:11:46.395 --> 01:11:51.846
- so for now, if there's any clarifying questions about what exactly it is, we can go through those. Otherwise,

01:11:51.846 --> 01:11:56.949
- if there's discussion about the merits of the resolution or things that should change, we can probably

01:11:56.949 --> 01:12:01.954
- save that for next time. But Tara, go ahead. Yeah, I have a question. Is there any information about

01:12:01.954 --> 01:12:02.846
- the accessibility

01:12:03.266 --> 01:12:12.399
- buildings, especially public buildings like the library during closures, or if there is any documentation

01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:21.188
- from accessibility or disability justice groups about the impact for people using mobility devices of

01:12:21.188 --> 01:12:29.805
- the street closures. I have anecdotally heard stuff about that, but I'm curious if there, I mean, I

01:12:29.805 --> 01:12:31.614
- know that it's like,

01:12:32.450 --> 01:12:40.334
- It's accessible, but lots of places that say they're accessible are not actually accessible. So I'm

01:12:40.334 --> 01:12:48.140
- curious if there's any kind of documentation of is this actually wide enough? Are there sufficient

01:12:48.140 --> 01:12:56.340
- handicapped parking spaces on the remaining sides? Are there whatever information about that for people

01:12:56.340 --> 01:13:02.174
- that can't access some of those buildings when it's close to car traffic?

01:13:02.562 --> 01:13:07.734
- OK. I can't speak to specific details. I'm not involved in this project, but I know that that was one

01:13:07.734 --> 01:13:12.855
- of the really heavy considerations. So my focus within ESD probably could speak to that if you would

01:13:12.855 --> 01:13:17.925
- like to reach out to them. And part of the reason why I said we should study other cities that have

01:13:17.925 --> 01:13:22.995
- successfully done this, they've successfully done it, and it's the focal point of their cities. And

01:13:22.995 --> 01:13:28.268
- they don't really have the same, they don't have, they've managed to handle the accessibility concerns.

01:13:28.268 --> 01:13:30.398
- And there's ways you can do it that allow

01:13:31.074 --> 01:13:36.673
- people with disabilities to be able to still access the block. So that's part of the reason why I said

01:13:36.673 --> 01:13:42.273
- study other cities and see what they've done. Because it definitely can be done. It's been done before

01:13:42.273 --> 01:13:47.872
- in many other cities. So I think it can be done here. I don't think there's any reason why we couldn't

01:13:47.872 --> 01:13:53.362
- do it here. But that's a fair point. I think one area we could study as well is looking at what they

01:13:53.362 --> 01:13:58.799
- do at the State Fair. Indiana State Fair has this transportation system that seems to move a lot of

01:13:58.799 --> 01:13:59.614
- people around.

01:13:59.746 --> 01:14:05.814
- It seems like something like that could work down here to help get people where they need to go in a

01:14:05.814 --> 01:14:11.822
- space that has a lot of people walking. You know what I mean? All right. Any last minute clarifying

01:14:11.822 --> 01:14:18.310
- questions on the resolution? Otherwise, we could. Yeah, go ahead. Well, I did maybe not so much a question,

01:14:18.310 --> 01:14:24.378
- but just to say that I was opposed to the reopening. It was our understanding, but with the openness

01:14:24.378 --> 01:14:27.742
- here, I think the expectation of a lot of restaurateurs

01:14:27.874 --> 01:14:36.424
- was that it would be closed. And so I think it was important for certainty in the report. But then comes

01:14:36.424 --> 01:14:44.729
- the matter of whether the city engineers the power to make this decision. And this has been a dispute

01:14:44.729 --> 01:14:53.035
- at the council between council and administration. And at this point, because we're lacking a council

01:14:53.035 --> 01:14:56.862
- attorney, it's sort of in limbo at this point.

01:14:57.058 --> 01:15:04.153
- So that that part will have to be revisited whether the council has authority to make Permanent or temporary

01:15:04.153 --> 01:15:10.728
- change certainly this is the engineer has the ability to make temporary changes But whether it falls

01:15:10.728 --> 01:15:17.367
- the administration or the council formally always went to the council Yeah in terms of decisions like

01:15:17.367 --> 01:15:23.877
- this So we're gonna have to get clarification about that from our new attorney on state statute and

01:15:23.877 --> 01:15:25.374
- how to interpret it so

01:15:25.762 --> 01:15:34.093
- But I see you've got a lot of experience with this, so I'm very impressed by the information and looking

01:15:34.093 --> 01:15:42.028
- forward to more debate on it, for sure. I mean, FYI, I mean, it is, I'm sort of, I'm leaning toward

01:15:42.028 --> 01:15:50.042
- permanent closure, but I don't, I need to really hear from constituents and businesses. I understand

01:15:50.042 --> 01:15:55.358
- that when polled, it was about, I think it was 10 businesses were,

01:15:55.746 --> 01:16:03.231
- wanting to be reopened, and about 20 wanted it closed. Obviously restaurants, it's in their interest.

01:16:03.231 --> 01:16:10.569
- Other places that don't benefit from it necessarily being closed. They have accessibility problems.

01:16:10.569 --> 01:16:17.246
- So I'm interested in debating it further, and I really appreciate all the work you put in.

01:16:18.338 --> 01:16:25.997
- All right. Well, why don't we move on to a vote? So this is just to advance it past the first reading,

01:16:25.997 --> 01:16:33.506
- and it'll be on our agenda again next meeting for a second reading and adoption. OK. Tara? Yes. Yes.

01:16:33.506 --> 01:16:40.942
- Justin, yes. Matt? Yes. Yes. Christopher? Yes. Yes. Zach? Yes. Yes. Councilmember Arroyo? Yes. Yes.

01:16:40.942 --> 01:16:47.262
- Quentin? Yes. Yes. Alex? Yes. Yes. Maria? Yes. Yes. Shang Lai is absent. Diana? Yes.

01:16:47.362 --> 01:16:56.336
- Yes, and Ross? Yes. Yes, wonderful. That advances to a second reading at the next meeting. That brings

01:16:56.336 --> 01:17:05.224
- us to resolution 26-04, which is sponsored by Matt. And you have the floor to just describe what this

01:17:05.224 --> 01:17:14.024
- one's about. So with all the recent news that President Trump was pushing glyphosate to be something

01:17:14.024 --> 01:17:16.638
- related to national security,

01:17:17.122 --> 01:17:24.301
- and all the conversations that have been happening about it, it's kind of made sense. And I've opposed

01:17:24.301 --> 01:17:31.410
- glyphosate for a long time with the urban farm and soil health being very, very important. And that's

01:17:31.410 --> 01:17:38.450
- part of the reason why Garden Q, myself, my sister are working so hard with Bokashi, because Bokashi

01:17:38.450 --> 01:17:45.420
- is a solution to soil health, can contribute greatly to the health of soil. So this is very simple.

01:17:45.420 --> 01:17:46.814
- I've seen the city.

01:17:46.914 --> 01:17:53.636
- I haven't seen them actually spray glyphosate, but I saw what I really like is actually put a sign up

01:17:53.636 --> 01:18:00.358
- that glyphosate was sprayed here. So I like that aspect. Fortunately, it was right on the edge of the

01:18:00.358 --> 01:18:07.212
- road next to the community orchard in the area where they have wood chips and other things dropped off.

01:18:07.212 --> 01:18:14.000
- And then I had a neighbor who had contracted work out and they were putting glyphosate on their gravel

01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:15.582
- drive and all the water

01:18:16.098 --> 01:18:22.641
- We were downstream from them. And so I got into a heated argument with the gentleman, to put it lightly.

01:18:22.641 --> 01:18:28.997
- So basically, this is just saying that we don't want glyphosate used in public areas. We want to look

01:18:28.997 --> 01:18:35.353
- at other options like integrated pest management. Yeah, it's very, very simple. And as for there have

01:18:35.353 --> 01:18:41.896
- been other cities that have already done this, college towns like Lawrence has implemented an integrated

01:18:41.896 --> 01:18:45.822
- pest management program aimed at reducing chemical herbicides.

01:18:46.146 --> 01:18:53.456
- And then Evanston, Illinois and Urbana, Illinois as well, when we're talking places similar to Bloomington.

01:18:53.456 --> 01:19:00.427
- So it's very simple. Just let's stop using glyphosate. There's other ways that you can do it, vinegar,

01:19:00.427 --> 01:19:07.466
- salts, things like that. Very good. Is there a motion to consider resolution 2026-04 for first reading?

01:19:07.466 --> 01:19:14.370
- Second. Perfect. All right. So again, any urgent questions that need to be answered about this before

01:19:14.370 --> 01:19:16.062
- we go to the next month?

01:19:17.058 --> 01:19:25.475
- Yeah, I appreciate the resolution. It came up in the last administration, actually, and I was interested

01:19:25.475 --> 01:19:33.651
- in this. So I queried the then director of Parks and Rec, and they utilize it. And I think that's how

01:19:33.651 --> 01:19:41.908
- the notification became part of, I don't know, operations. I don't know if it was codified or not, but

01:19:41.908 --> 01:19:46.878
- it became, you know, essentially a warning because, you know,

01:19:47.170 --> 01:19:55.534
- chemical sensitivity or people want to avoid it and so forth. My only caution is, when I query before,

01:19:55.534 --> 01:20:04.061
- to find out, and I can share this list, it's probably changed, but I asked for insecticides, herbicides,

01:20:04.061 --> 01:20:12.344
- fungicides that were used, growth inhibitors that were used in the past at this time, and that was 10

01:20:12.344 --> 01:20:15.998
- years ago. I got a list, itemizing list with

01:20:16.802 --> 01:20:25.586
- volumes or poundage. And some seem to me to be, you know, really discretionary or unnecessary that would

01:20:25.586 --> 01:20:33.952
- be addressed by probably other means. So things like, you know, Twin Lakes, Twin Lakes ball fields,

01:20:33.952 --> 01:20:42.653
- you know, they were using it glyphosate to spray along fence rows. Seems like we could find other means

01:20:42.653 --> 01:20:46.334
- to do it. However, I would like to say that

01:20:46.562 --> 01:20:55.346
- I make an exception with natural resources because I was convinced about that time that it's an important

01:20:55.346 --> 01:21:03.716
- part of treating non-native invasive species. That is that if it's used in a very discreet way where

01:21:03.716 --> 01:21:12.003
- you, you know, calorie pairs or bush honeysuckles or multiflora rose, which have large root masses,

01:21:12.003 --> 01:21:16.478
- difficult to take out, would require a lot of weight,

01:21:16.738 --> 01:21:22.962
- work and everything, to cut it off and paint the stump, which is a very minimal amount. So they were

01:21:22.962 --> 01:21:29.247
- using just a few gallons to do that, and they were using it at Griffey to essentially eliminate these

01:21:29.247 --> 01:21:35.224
- non-native invasives that would ordinarily not be able to be treated. I mean, I used to work in,

01:21:35.224 --> 01:21:41.386
- you know, I used to be a farmer. The people across the street from me sprayed it on their 40 acres,

01:21:41.386 --> 01:21:45.022
- I mean, in huge quantities. That's what the trumpet meant.

01:21:45.250 --> 01:21:52.565
- I think it has, and I see in the resolution, and I appreciate this, that in section one, it says that

01:21:52.565 --> 01:21:59.953
- it encourages the city council and other relevant entities to adopt policies that prohibit or restrict

01:21:59.953 --> 01:22:07.483
- the use of the glyphosate. So I see that operationally, I would like to prohibit it in cases, especially

01:22:07.483 --> 01:22:14.942
- where people are recreating ball fields and things like that, and only have it utilized in places where

01:22:15.106 --> 01:22:21.463
- might be absolutely necessary. So I wondered about if that sounds acceptable. Absolutely. Absolutely.

01:22:21.463 --> 01:22:28.007
- Because I know we took down, the electric company took down a calorie pair, and they asked about putting

01:22:28.007 --> 01:22:34.176
- glyphosate onto the root. And I said, no, we're going to do some vinegar. Yeah. So really targeted

01:22:34.176 --> 01:22:40.658
- applications on a basis makes complete sense. Yeah. So I think maybe before we hear this again, I could

01:22:40.658 --> 01:22:44.958
- inquire at Parks and Rec to see if I can get a list, a current list.

01:22:45.122 --> 01:22:51.757
- So the commission can see exactly where it was being utilized and where specifically. And then we can

01:22:51.757 --> 01:22:58.653
- kind of go from there. But overall, I think I like it how you framed it. Because I would like to restrict

01:22:58.653 --> 01:23:05.354
- it if at all possible. I'd love it if there was an alternative. And maybe I'll inquire to see if there

01:23:05.354 --> 01:23:11.924
- is something that could be utilized right now. Ellen Jacquard, who was the ecologist with, well, she

01:23:11.924 --> 01:23:14.526
- works with MCI or whatever it's called.

01:23:14.818 --> 01:23:22.978
- Indiana, is it MCI? Okay, she's with INPS, which used to be INPOS, which is the Indiana Native Land

01:23:22.978 --> 01:23:31.710
- Society or something. Anyway, she does it actively and she's done it for years. She would be his resource,

01:23:31.710 --> 01:23:36.606
- so we'll be in touch and we'll learn to acquire that thing.

01:23:36.834 --> 01:23:42.978
- All right, sorry to take so much time. Yeah, my focus comment is to say that the City of Bloomington's

01:23:42.978 --> 01:23:48.942
- integrated pest management plan that they do have. They do, at the forefront of it, say the goal is

01:23:48.942 --> 01:23:55.324
- to reduce pesticide herbicide use as much as possible. So yeah, take a look at that too. And I can connect

01:23:55.324 --> 01:24:01.289
- with Joanna Sparks as well. I used to do cut stuff treatment. I actually used glyphosate myself. So

01:24:01.289 --> 01:24:04.510
- I have some experience with that, being very limited.

01:24:04.610 --> 01:24:11.515
- entities, as you explained, so. Anyway, I just wanted to- Is that the one that's blue when they paint

01:24:11.515 --> 01:24:18.421
- it, so that you can see what's been treated? All right, we should probably move on, because we're two

01:24:18.421 --> 01:24:25.326
- minutes away from the end of the meeting, and we still have a staff report to get through, so. OK, so

01:24:25.326 --> 01:24:32.096
- this is to advance to a second reading. Resolution 2026-04. Tara? Yes. Yes. Justin, yes. Matt? Yes.

01:24:32.096 --> 01:24:34.398
- Yes. Christopher? Yes. Zach? Yes.

01:24:34.754 --> 01:24:39.742
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

01:24:39.742 --> 01:24:44.730
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

01:24:44.730 --> 01:24:49.718
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

01:24:49.718 --> 01:24:54.705
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

01:24:54.705 --> 01:24:59.693
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

01:24:59.693 --> 01:25:02.686
- Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

01:25:03.074 --> 01:25:09.851
- We are applying for a grant through Climate Smart Communities Initiative. We are requesting $72,000

01:25:09.851 --> 01:25:16.764
- for a green infrastructure planning grant for the three cities. So I'll keep you posted on that if we

01:25:16.764 --> 01:25:24.084
- are awarded. We have finished our LED lighting upgrades at fire stations four and five, the animal shelter,

01:25:24.084 --> 01:25:31.742
- sanitation building, and Banneker Center. So that's all for today. Nice. Thank you very much. Any questions for?

01:25:34.946 --> 01:25:41.135
- Well, thank you. That brings us to member announcements. Boy, we have 40 seconds left. Who's got something

01:25:41.135 --> 01:25:46.977
- they want to share? Garden Cue is restarting their Bokashi workshops starting in May. And you'll see

01:25:46.977 --> 01:25:52.993
- that on the Community Orchards website. And then also is partnered with Wonder Lab to introduce Bokashi

01:25:52.993 --> 01:25:58.951
- to their end of summer, beginning of summer, end of school year festival. And is partnering again with

01:25:58.951 --> 01:26:02.942
- the Taste of Bloomington. And it looks like we're going to have some

01:26:03.138 --> 01:26:09.402
- waste stations that are sponsored by Coke Consolidated. They're not cheap, but are going to make it

01:26:09.402 --> 01:26:15.916
- a much better experience in dealing with your recyclables, your landfill, and your food waste. So we're

01:26:15.916 --> 01:26:22.242
- excited about that. And I'm also talking about Coke's goal at taking every single bottle and turning

01:26:22.242 --> 01:26:28.756
- that back into a new bottle. They haven't been doing that until 2023 is when they started this program.

01:26:28.756 --> 01:26:32.702
- We felt like that recycling was great, but that's much better.

01:26:32.834 --> 01:26:39.620
- Yeah, go. Bloomington Energy Works, the residential outreach side of things. We're doing a large canvassing

01:26:39.620 --> 01:26:46.092
- outreach effort the last weekend in March, so March 28th, 29th. If anybody wants to go walk around and

01:26:46.092 --> 01:26:52.626
- knock on doors, the club is probably going to be great for it. We would love to have additional people.

01:26:52.626 --> 01:26:55.454
- And it's a lot of fun. Yes, thank you. Nice.

01:26:55.586 --> 01:27:02.499
- The Ashkenazi Museum has a fiber art installation on the main floor that is about ecology and recycled

01:27:02.499 --> 01:27:09.076
- materials that is astonishing. There's some stuff that's crocheted out of all food delivery bags.

01:27:09.076 --> 01:27:16.055
- All right, we've got eight seconds. If you want to plant a tree, there are several tree planning events

01:27:16.055 --> 01:27:23.102
- happening through Canopy Bloomington over the next few weeks to a couple of months. How do we find them?

01:27:23.650 --> 01:27:30.027
- It's called Canopy Blue and it's online. I don't know the website. I'm sorry. All right. That brings

01:27:30.027 --> 01:27:36.530
- us to the end of the meeting. That was great. Lots of member announcements. We'd like to see that. Our

01:27:36.530 --> 01:27:42.654
- next meeting is at April 14th. I will stand adjourned at 7 31 p.m. Thanks, everybody. Thank you.
