WEBVTT 00:00:00.418 --> 00:00:08.859 - I'm going to go ahead and call this meeting to order. It is June 11, a week early, so that we can celebrate 00:00:08.859 --> 00:00:17.221 - on our Juneteenth next week. But I'm excited to have you all join on this really scorching summer evening. 00:00:17.221 --> 00:00:25.193 - All right. So Jackie, if you want to do the official roll call, we can go through. Yep. OK. Albright? 00:00:25.193 --> 00:00:29.726 - I'm here. Brown? Here. Alby? Here. Martinez? Here. Baser? 00:00:30.050 --> 00:00:45.758 - I believe we have. Oh, we have the approval of tonight's agenda. Move we approve tonight's agenda. Thank 00:00:45.758 --> 00:00:57.278 - you very much. I have a second. Thank you very much. Oh, there we go. Sorry. 00:00:57.442 --> 00:01:10.781 - Yeah, that'd be lots of little calls to start. Yeah. Yes. Um. Brad. I'm sorry for a little minute. Yes. 00:01:10.781 --> 00:01:23.863 - Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Mitchell Owens has entered the chat. Mitchell, do you want to 00:01:23.863 --> 00:01:27.326 - vote to include them? Yes. 00:01:29.698 --> 00:01:56.798 - Okay, so we. Okay, so we. Okay, so we. Okay, so we. Okay, so we. Okay, so we. Okay, so we. 00:01:56.962 --> 00:02:06.478 - That's it. Sounds good. That was actually just tonight's agenda. We're going to do the minutes here 00:02:06.478 --> 00:02:16.279 - in a moment. Yeah. We used to do the pro-clock and the June agenda for both, but now we're really into 00:02:16.279 --> 00:02:26.366 - considering the remaining minutes. I move we approve the minutes. Sorry, sorry. Let me get it, Sam. Adam. 00:02:27.426 --> 00:02:36.765 - Let's see. Aldi? Yes. Martinez? Yes. Geyser? Yes. Mesher? Yes. Collins? Yes. Utica? Yes. All right. 00:02:36.765 --> 00:02:46.290 - Yes. Thank you. Excellent. We're just going to cruise right along into the public comments portion of 00:02:46.290 --> 00:02:53.854 - our agenda. We've got a few members in public. We'd love if you're interested in 00:02:54.178 --> 00:03:02.091 - Introducing yourselves, or you've got about five minutes to share how we look. And I'm gonna start first, 00:03:02.091 --> 00:03:09.630 - is there anyone in the Zoom? Yeah, it's just us and Kat. Great, anyone in the room care to introduce 00:03:09.630 --> 00:03:10.526 - themselves? 00:03:15.490 --> 00:03:22.350 - I'm Justin Vassel. Not much to really comment on here. Just want to kind of introduce myself for those 00:03:22.350 --> 00:03:29.210 - that don't know me already. I'm the chair of the Board of Commission on Sustainability and Resilience. 00:03:29.210 --> 00:03:36.003 - And yeah, just talking about it. Kind of see what people are up to. Thanks. Glad to have you. We have 00:03:36.003 --> 00:03:40.798 - a couple other guests, but they will have a moment to shine just a bit. 00:03:41.154 --> 00:03:47.145 - All right. Well, then I'm going to roll on to the commissioner reports. This is where, if you have any 00:03:47.145 --> 00:03:53.136 - area of interest that you've been working on things, thinking about things such as light pollution and 00:03:53.136 --> 00:03:59.186 - water quality, maybe biodiversity, some of those familiar themes that you've always enjoyed discussing, 00:03:59.186 --> 00:04:05.002 - this is your opportunity to bring those up, share any updates on maybe what you've been discussing, 00:04:05.002 --> 00:04:07.038 - thinking about it. Yeah, probably. 00:04:07.234 --> 00:04:13.787 - We have a couple of reports. One is while we haven't met since last time, a couple of us are talking 00:04:13.787 --> 00:04:20.406 - with FECOS about a joint resolution on light pollution. I'm not sure how logistically it's gonna work 00:04:20.406 --> 00:04:27.024 - out yet, but I think in August we're gonna try to find a way to do like a joint special session so we 00:04:27.024 --> 00:04:33.772 - can both approve it on the same day. So surely you'll hear more about that at some point when we figure 00:04:33.772 --> 00:04:35.070 - out how that works. 00:04:35.266 --> 00:04:44.636 - I also wanted to report on watching the BCOS meeting. They had training presentation from Jennifer Crossley 00:04:44.636 --> 00:04:53.573 - that some of us went to last week, and that's also happening right now, so none of us can be attending 00:04:53.573 --> 00:05:02.423 - that. Councilmember Dave Rallo, the report on the dangers of AI before then, a very similar report to 00:05:02.423 --> 00:05:04.158 - council last night. 00:05:04.386 --> 00:05:12.445 - They adopted a resolution to ban anticoagulant rodenticides and blue traps. And at the end, Shawn Mia 00:05:12.445 --> 00:05:20.662 - shared that she is seeking suggestions for speakers for climate talks in 2027 at the Bus Creek Chumley. 00:05:20.662 --> 00:05:28.721 - Well, that was announced to their commission and not ours. I bet we know people and have feelings. So 00:05:28.721 --> 00:05:32.830 - if you have any suggestions for potential speakers, 00:05:33.058 --> 00:05:41.550 - We're going to have four climate talks in 2027. Send Sean an email. Is emailing Sean the best way to 00:05:41.550 --> 00:05:50.294 - do that? As far as I could tell. Great. Thanks for the updates on what's going on with ECOs and sharing 00:05:50.294 --> 00:05:58.702 - about the potential to add resolution. I know there are some conversations being had over the ECOs. 00:05:58.702 --> 00:06:02.654 - Is that how we're saying it? Yeah, I guess so. 00:06:02.818 --> 00:06:12.403 - Any other folks have any updates that they would like to share or bring to the table? I mentioned this 00:06:12.403 --> 00:06:22.268 - at the end of last week, but the registration for it is actually open now. Bloomington Bug Fest is coming 00:06:22.268 --> 00:06:32.318 - up at the end of September. Got the exact date. I know I cannot be there this year for either helping us or 00:06:32.610 --> 00:06:40.299 - my usual role with IDEM. So it's on you guys, I think, but it is, I believe, September 26th. Do you 00:06:40.299 --> 00:06:47.988 - remember if that's a paid one? No, it's free. You just have to register. And I don't know if Rachel 00:06:47.988 --> 00:06:55.985 - would have been the one to register us last year, but whoever did the registration, and then Parks sent 00:06:55.985 --> 00:07:01.982 - emails to all those folks. You must have been, Rachel. I have to take it. OK. 00:07:02.114 --> 00:07:11.715 - So maybe that's something that folks think about their availability to table for it, and then our next 00:07:11.715 --> 00:07:21.129 - move is to confirm if that's something they want to do. President Bunk and the boss, can you explain 00:07:21.129 --> 00:07:31.102 - what BuckFest is? It's a celebration of bugs, basically. It is an honor of just booths of people from like 00:07:31.650 --> 00:07:39.474 - City Parks, DNR, I usually come out for my den with some people. There's like people from Griffey Lake 00:07:39.474 --> 00:07:47.373 - I see and just everyone that works with bugs in any former fashion will be there, displays, educational 00:07:47.373 --> 00:07:55.121 - things. We get over a thousand people every year that I've done it so far over the past three or four 00:07:55.121 --> 00:07:59.678 - years. So it's like a high traffic event out at First Farm. 00:08:00.002 --> 00:08:08.671 - And it's a lot of fun. Awesome. Thanks for the update. Yeah. Other things from Commissioner? I actually 00:08:08.671 --> 00:08:17.173 - remembered that I have yet another report. Yeah, I forgot. I watched the planning commission meeting. 00:08:17.173 --> 00:08:25.842 - Anyone who's on ECPC would be especially familiar, but perhaps others might also recall back in January 00:08:25.842 --> 00:08:28.926 - or February when the 2511 North Dunn 00:08:29.442 --> 00:08:39.243 - subdivision was brought before us. We opted at the time not take any action. The plan has changed pretty 00:08:39.243 --> 00:08:48.858 - dramatically. They introduced a different layout with I think 11 houses instead of 15 and a cul-de-sac 00:08:48.858 --> 00:08:57.726 - instead of the through street, which staff wasn't thrilled about that idea. There was a lot of 00:08:57.890 --> 00:09:06.195 - neighborhood opposition to it in the meeting and there were some variances requested including a repairing 00:09:06.195 --> 00:09:14.112 - buffer variance that essentially the layout of that area they were trying to avoid a stream part with 00:09:14.112 --> 00:09:22.030 - houses but still within the buffer they need to have stormwater infrastructure so they were modifying 00:09:22.030 --> 00:09:23.582 - the buffer language 00:09:25.250 --> 00:09:32.320 - Basically, so that if CBU needed to, they could do stormwater work within it. So normally, you wouldn't 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:39.798 - be able to disturb it at all, not even moat. But because this project would require stormwater infrastructure 00:09:39.798 --> 00:09:46.732 - there, they're seeking a variance to riparian buffer language, among some other things. I just wanted 00:09:46.732 --> 00:09:52.510 - to bring that before people's attention, because if we wanted to write a letter now, 00:09:52.994 --> 00:10:00.366 - second reading where it could be passed. It's going to be a next month's meeting. So we'd have a relatively 00:10:00.366 --> 00:10:07.329 - small amount of time to do so. I still kind of feel like leaving my thumb off the scale, but I'm open 00:10:07.329 --> 00:10:14.428 - to other people weighing in, even if that just means doing some homework and then shooting me an email. 00:10:14.428 --> 00:10:22.142 - But yeah. Is the right variant buffer variants new? Because I don't remember saying that when you first started. 00:10:22.402 --> 00:10:30.221 - a part of it in January or February. I guess the plans would be available then in the Plan Commission 00:10:30.221 --> 00:10:37.963 - packet? Yes. Okay. Yeah. That was a bit of a whirlwind. It snuck up on me a little bit too. Like I'd 00:10:37.963 --> 00:10:45.628 - looked at the packet earlier on. Monday was the meeting and some of the slides changed between when 00:10:45.628 --> 00:10:51.454 - I looked at it same day and the meeting itself. But the information was all 00:10:51.618 --> 00:11:00.596 - there, it just was sometimes in different places or easier or harder to find. But yes, that is new. 00:11:00.596 --> 00:11:09.663 - Just wanted to report that. Thanks for the update on it. Thanks for watching the planning. Any other 00:11:09.663 --> 00:11:18.910 - updates from folks? This would be where you might get a tree commission report if there was a meeting. 00:11:19.170 --> 00:11:29.823 - There was not a meeting. Yes, like any era. Mary, you're going to discuss the year management, right? 00:11:29.823 --> 00:11:40.475 - Historically, yeah. Yeah, I can say where we're at and the process this year. I'll mention two things 00:11:40.475 --> 00:11:46.846 - from Iraq. It's exciting to me that Leonard Springs is being 00:11:47.074 --> 00:11:58.691 - considered by DNR as a Nature Preserve Reservation, which my understanding is functionally it will just 00:11:58.691 --> 00:12:10.420 - add additional protections and potentially resources. And the other main from our meeting that I'm about 00:12:10.420 --> 00:12:12.542 - to mention is that 00:12:13.218 --> 00:12:21.192 - The parks department has been working on a five-year master plan. You're here, so you can correct anything 00:12:21.192 --> 00:12:28.793 - I say. And so you've had community involvement, and now there's a five-year plan with four main goals 00:12:28.793 --> 00:12:36.096 - that have been approved, including meaningful community impact, invest in what we have, financial 00:12:36.096 --> 00:12:42.430 - sustainability, and connected strong staff, and the action that it has to meet those 00:12:44.386 --> 00:12:53.159 - Goals are balance, recreation, protection, technical setup. Objective, maintain B in Bird City 00:12:53.159 --> 00:13:03.317 - and maintenance and updates to Wapahome. These are the three main tasks, balance, recreation, and protection, 00:13:03.317 --> 00:13:11.998 - maintain B in Bird City and maintenance and updates to Wapahome. And that's all I have heard. 00:13:12.258 --> 00:13:20.474 - Thanks, that's what I'm saying. At this point in the master plan, is it for public input? Yeah, 00:13:20.474 --> 00:13:29.033 - so accessibility is the only barrier. So we're working on making an accessible document and then it 00:13:29.033 --> 00:13:37.763 - will be made available. That's what I'm saying. Thanks for the update. Other updates from the team or 00:13:37.763 --> 00:13:39.646 - things that they have 00:13:40.290 --> 00:13:48.724 - been referring to on other board commissions or things they've been discussing on the move? Well, I 00:13:48.724 --> 00:13:57.241 - would do the economic development commission meeting, but it would be hardest than the first. You're 00:13:57.241 --> 00:14:06.181 - related to tax abatements. All right. All right. Well, there aren't any other updates. We can keep moving 00:14:06.181 --> 00:14:09.470 - on. But any last applications? OK. OK. 00:14:10.370 --> 00:14:16.475 - Um, all right, we'll move on to the staff reports, which is planning a transportation department. If 00:14:16.475 --> 00:14:22.700 - you've got any reports, I'll pass it to you. Um, Rachel's out and uh, she'll be back. It's doing fine. 00:14:22.700 --> 00:14:28.926 - It's doing great. Um, so I am trying to money through, sorry, you know, so I was like, I'm not picking 00:14:28.926 --> 00:14:35.091 - up Thursday. Um, the next one should be more, should be smoother. You have a second month like trying 00:14:35.091 --> 00:14:39.806 - to do the special session or whatever. Just let me know. Uh, figure that out. 00:14:40.226 --> 00:14:46.551 - Uh, otherwise, um, I asked the dean at, well, and if you know, yes, don't mean attendance, but I asked 00:14:46.551 --> 00:14:53.121 - her maybe again to clarify the quorum question, which is like my least favorite to talk about. But because 00:14:53.121 --> 00:14:59.630 - I thought I watched part of last month's and it seemed like they're, I just want to be sure we understand 00:14:59.630 --> 00:15:06.078 - what it means to have someone on zoom and how that affects me. Are you, is that okay if I ask? Oh, yeah. 00:15:06.078 --> 00:15:08.350 - So I think I already addressed that. 00:15:08.610 --> 00:15:22.775 - Did everyone feel like they understood it? That was what I wanted to clarify is if the quorum is less 00:15:22.775 --> 00:15:34.302 - when someone is on Zoom, which is what it sounded like. You can go back to emails. 00:15:35.170 --> 00:15:47.350 - So for a hybrid meeting, the in-person environment is at least 50% of the city membership of the board 00:15:47.350 --> 00:15:59.529 - of commission. At the time of the meeting must be present in person. The city members does not include 00:15:59.529 --> 00:16:00.830 - vacancies. 00:16:01.314 --> 00:16:09.370 - Only the number of members at the time of the meeting, so I did this in writing to. Okay, I just I just 00:16:09.370 --> 00:16:17.271 - looked at that. So we're only at eight number. Okay, so they have five and first step. The number can 00:16:17.271 --> 00:16:25.172 - vary. So yes, the minimum would be five and that's sitting up. But then what is if they have vertical 00:16:25.172 --> 00:16:27.806 - tenants? How does that change? So 00:16:28.674 --> 00:16:37.830 - It just depends on how. All eight are coming, but some are online. How many have to be in the room? 00:16:37.830 --> 00:16:47.352 - At least 50% of the city troopers have to be in the room even if some of them are in the room. Oh, they 00:16:47.352 --> 00:16:57.790 - have eight and some nine. They have eight. Some of them resign after glass feeding. Not because of glass feeding. 00:16:59.138 --> 00:17:08.917 - Yeah, so the analysis was based on the city. Oh, that should be analyzed. OK, I mean, that is in this 00:17:08.917 --> 00:17:18.984 - week. That is not my grandchildren, right? But I thought it was a thing where there's a number of people 00:17:18.984 --> 00:17:27.134 - at the action meeting, right? But at that time, the city membership must be present. 00:17:27.778 --> 00:17:36.574 - I don't know if that answers the question. Now that the number has changed to eight, that's something 00:17:36.574 --> 00:17:45.543 - I can probably look at, but according to what legal has passed, the majority of the members of the body 00:17:45.543 --> 00:17:54.339 - with more than 50% of the number of seats still been vacant on the board or commissions. I don't know 00:17:54.339 --> 00:17:56.926 - if that answers the question. 00:17:57.090 --> 00:18:24.862 - So, but a real member can count toward or 00:18:26.242 --> 00:18:37.647 - So they have to have seven in the meeting to even have a meeting. And then five of them have to be here. 00:18:37.647 --> 00:18:49.053 - I think what I'm putting together is half of the seated members have to be in person if there are remote 00:18:49.053 --> 00:18:56.222 - people involved. Half of the seats have to be present physically. 00:18:56.642 --> 00:19:06.184 - still applies in that it is 50% plus one, but you can't have the majority on hybrid, for example. 50% 00:19:06.184 --> 00:19:15.914 - are in the room of the seated people. And the total number is how many people are interacting virtually 00:19:15.914 --> 00:19:17.598 - and face-to-face. 00:19:18.146 --> 00:19:27.029 - Is that what you think? Yeah, it's total. OK, so that's what it's definitely complicated, but I do think 00:19:27.029 --> 00:19:35.827 - that you can always err on the side of safety. But if you have 150%. Interim president it will be fine. 00:19:35.827 --> 00:19:44.457 - I think that since we're such a small permission, we have so few seats, so the forum is set it has to 00:19:44.457 --> 00:19:46.910 - have seven have the meeting. 00:19:47.106 --> 00:19:50.549 - Those people don't have to be in the room. Yeah. But five, you have to be in the room. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:19:50.549 --> 00:19:53.960 - So seven of you have to be in the room at this point. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:57.239 - Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. 00:19:57.239 --> 00:20:00.518 - Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. 00:20:00.518 --> 00:20:03.797 - Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. 00:20:03.797 --> 00:20:07.076 - Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. 00:20:07.076 --> 00:20:10.356 - Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. 00:20:10.356 --> 00:20:13.438 - Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the room. Half of you in the 00:20:15.170 --> 00:20:21.527 - Yeah, for quorum in general, it's state of the majority. They used to say 50% plus one, but that's messed 00:20:21.527 --> 00:20:27.703 - up. Quorum is seven. In hybrid, the language that I just provided said at least half. Given that we're 00:20:27.703 --> 00:20:34.000 - an even number right now, I think that would mean if three were online, four in the room, that's quorum. 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:37.598 - That's exactly right. Quorum concepto. Perfect. I felt like 00:20:37.826 --> 00:20:46.784 - But actually, I don't know if I got it. I certainly struggled with it. That's why I put it in writing, 00:20:46.784 --> 00:20:55.830 - because you have to kind of just read it over and over again until you're like, oh, thank you. So we'll 00:20:55.830 --> 00:21:01.918 - have you in room 72. Does anyone have questions about that? Yes. Yes. 00:21:02.370 --> 00:21:10.079 - I mean, I feel like I understand it as it was put, but I'm wondering if there's anything from PAC or 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:17.864 - anything from state law or any precedent that leads to us interpreting it the way it is, because both 00:21:17.864 --> 00:21:25.878 - in city code and in our own language, it says, quote, a quorum means the majority of the members serving 00:21:25.878 --> 00:21:28.702 - on the commission are in attendance. 00:21:28.898 --> 00:21:37.335 - Um, yes, I struggled believing that a vacant seat is a member serving. Um, and so I'm just trying to 00:21:37.335 --> 00:21:45.855 - get clarity on the numbers. So it would be possible to forward this email to everybody. I wasn't able 00:21:45.855 --> 00:21:55.294 - to do it because it's an open door law thing, but yeah, you can share it with the whole commission that we love. 00:22:02.370 --> 00:22:08.066 - Basically, what we're taking away from this, put a bow on it, is right now, all this content, we need 00:22:08.066 --> 00:22:13.707 - four people to be in this room for every meeting. We also have to make sure that we have seven of us 00:22:13.707 --> 00:22:19.292 - involved in the meeting, whether they're online or not. That means we only have one person that can 00:22:19.292 --> 00:22:25.211 - be absent per meeting for us to have quorum, which means if you're looking ahead at the schedule, please, 00:22:25.211 --> 00:22:27.166 - please look ahead at the schedule. 00:22:27.778 --> 00:22:32.979 - And if you think you're not able to make a meeting, please shout it from the rooftop so we can decide 00:22:32.979 --> 00:22:38.180 - if we want to reschedule, if we need to cancel, or what we want to do about it. But it's super, super 00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:43.279 - important until we have a meeting. So that we're very creative, that people be aware that we have a 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:48.632 - lot of work to have a meeting, and so if we have to cancel, we could lack the cost. That's what we said. 00:22:48.632 --> 00:22:53.731 - OK, I just sorted it out. Thanks. Thank you, Jen. Thank you. Yes, and no problem. I think, also, we 00:22:53.731 --> 00:22:55.006 - talked about making sure 00:22:55.170 --> 00:23:01.433 - If you have a question or they do a question and you get it over to Jackie, Jackie will get it to me 00:23:01.433 --> 00:23:07.820 - and then I can respond or I can talk about it at the next meeting. But we want to have those questions 00:23:07.820 --> 00:23:14.208 - in writing. Like, for example, we just have now, like, our oldest, those have to respond or he has the 00:23:14.208 --> 00:23:16.254 - program so then he can share it. 00:23:16.482 --> 00:23:24.176 - Additionally, there was a question that came up at the last meeting regarding whether the commission 00:23:24.176 --> 00:23:32.022 - has to vote on social media posts. So Indiana's Open Door law explains that board and commission speak 00:23:32.022 --> 00:23:39.793 - through their events. So a vote is something that is needed for board action. The board or commission 00:23:39.793 --> 00:23:42.078 - is a collective and therefore 00:23:42.466 --> 00:23:49.043 - should vote on what they want to post to their social media vote to their social media page. You guys 00:23:49.043 --> 00:23:55.555 - also have the option of voting for one person who votes on social media page but then there's a risk 00:23:55.555 --> 00:24:02.003 - of other commissioners not knowing exactly what to be posted if you just delegate it to one person. 00:24:02.003 --> 00:24:08.451 - So the board of commission doesn't typically speak through one person unless the majority has voted 00:24:08.451 --> 00:24:12.062 - for that person to do so. Since the basic foundation of 00:24:12.322 --> 00:24:21.087 - is that it takes the majority vote for action to approve. It's recommended that CC vote for each social 00:24:21.087 --> 00:24:29.936 - media post, but not required. If someone wants to host an individual capacity on their own social media, 00:24:29.936 --> 00:24:38.363 - on other commission sides, that would be just an individual fashion. Great, thank you all for that. 00:24:38.363 --> 00:24:41.566 - Yeah. Thanks for this. Oh, thank you. 00:24:41.666 --> 00:24:49.211 - previous conversation with Taylor, when we were talking about letters to the BCA or to planning commission, 00:24:49.211 --> 00:24:56.267 - he mentioned that we can approve, even if we hadn't written it yet, we could vote in the meeting, so 00:24:56.267 --> 00:25:03.253 - and so is going to write a memo and we can essentially preemptively approve it. Could we accomplish 00:25:03.253 --> 00:25:08.702 - the same thing with a social media post, just like if we were at our meeting, 00:25:08.866 --> 00:25:14.968 - I'd say so-and-so is going to send language to Jackie for a BobFest post, and that we both can prove 00:25:14.968 --> 00:25:21.011 - that even though it hasn't been formulated yet. I'm assuming that's okay. I just wanted to make you 00:25:21.011 --> 00:25:27.173 - guys feel good. Well, yes, so we don't want to assume everything. Legal doesn't like assuming things, 00:25:27.173 --> 00:25:33.397 - but so the first one I just want to place that I wanted to go back to is we keep bringing up this term 00:25:33.397 --> 00:25:37.022 - in ECA, and the Board of Zoning Appeals is a quasi-judicial 00:25:37.666 --> 00:25:47.006 - board. So it is this distinct from all of those words. So there's something called 00:25:47.394 --> 00:25:54.890 - Maybe it's a different commission. For example, we keep bringing up the VCR. It just so happens that 00:25:54.890 --> 00:26:02.906 - they and planning commission are the ones that we have written about those two. So it's about two examples. 00:26:02.906 --> 00:26:10.402 - It wasn't defined in Google. In terms of planning commission, if you wanted to communicate with them 00:26:10.402 --> 00:26:16.414 - through a letter, your question is? Just because we often get their packets like 00:26:16.578 --> 00:26:23.710 - the same day as we have a meeting, and then their stuff happens soon after, or I think sometimes maybe 00:26:23.710 --> 00:26:30.841 - even on the same day, I don't know, it becomes a really tight window for having any additional meeting 00:26:30.841 --> 00:26:37.973 - to collectively write the letter. So what Taylor indicated, and I can't remember if that was the March 00:26:37.973 --> 00:26:43.166 - meeting or the February meeting, but one of them that we had had a notice, 00:26:43.618 --> 00:26:50.629 - indicated that he did his research and didn't see any reason why we couldn't vote to approve a memo 00:26:50.629 --> 00:26:57.710 - that members of the ECPC are writing. And so with that information, I just wanted to see if the same 00:26:57.710 --> 00:27:04.861 - thing was true about the social media posts. If it's, you know, not give so-and-so full permission to 00:27:04.861 --> 00:27:12.222 - post whatever they want, but, you know, in the same way that it would be a memo on blank, you know, post 00:27:12.354 --> 00:27:21.743 - such and such, if that's enough specificity to allow us to vote right before it happens. Yes, 00:27:21.743 --> 00:27:31.830 - I think you can. Your question is drawn out, so my line of hearing is that if you want to vote for a 00:27:31.830 --> 00:27:41.918 - social media post, can you do that? Before it's actually written. So the theme of posts we agree on, 00:27:42.146 --> 00:27:49.125 - But we're not actually voting on the exact post yet. But we're voting to vote first. That's kind of 00:27:49.125 --> 00:27:56.384 - falls into the same situation. Just having one person be the designated poster. And if you want to vote 00:27:56.384 --> 00:28:03.851 - for that, to have that, then you can vote for that. But that just means that that one person who's posting 00:28:03.851 --> 00:28:08.318 - the rest of the mission may not know what's going to be posted. 00:28:08.962 --> 00:28:15.025 - But you're basically putting all your trust in that person to know this is, you know, whatever it is. 00:28:15.025 --> 00:28:21.028 - And it is considered, you know, they're speaking as the commission. So it's kind of similar to that. 00:28:21.028 --> 00:28:27.032 - So yes, you can do that if that's what you all choose to do. There's a wandered for one times of the 00:28:27.032 --> 00:28:33.332 - essence, but all right, thank you for clarifying. You can, yeah. That sounds like that might be something 00:28:33.332 --> 00:28:36.542 - we can talk about in future meeting tours in Vermont. 00:28:36.962 --> 00:28:43.115 - Yeah, we can put it on as a potential voting item for that process. Great. Were there any other staff 00:28:43.115 --> 00:28:49.267 - or people topics that we need to cover? I don't think so. No, thank you so much. No, thank you. Okay, 00:28:49.267 --> 00:28:55.299 - well then we're going to move on to new business, which is exciting because we have a special guest 00:28:55.299 --> 00:29:01.331 - with us tonight who is going to give us a presentation about a topic that kind of comes through our 00:29:01.331 --> 00:29:06.398 - doors from time to time, but it's always nice to have a deeper understanding of how 00:29:06.658 --> 00:29:15.838 - When we can or places like that for if you learn and then damage that. Sure. And I'll just be presenting 00:29:16.354 --> 00:29:22.070 - I'm not going to have a presentation. So I just have provided this for you all for reference, but I 00:29:22.070 --> 00:29:27.958 - won't go into too much detail. Is it accessible? This is not accessible. So I pull it down with vendor 00:29:27.958 --> 00:29:33.732 - 2025, which I don't know that we will make it or associate from our contract. If I can, I'll sell it 00:29:33.732 --> 00:29:39.448 - to you. Is it already on your website? It is not yet on the website. It may be on our website. It's 00:29:39.448 --> 00:29:42.078 - on the website, so it's currently accessible. 00:29:42.914 --> 00:29:50.831 - And I don't think we're going to go retroactively making these documents accessible. So yeah, they're 00:29:50.831 --> 00:29:58.593 - provided as reports by a contractor. So that's another hurdle to achieve. But I just wanted to give 00:29:58.593 --> 00:30:06.510 - you a really amazing report provided by a contractor we've used to date for deer management. A little 00:30:06.510 --> 00:30:11.710 - bit of history of deer management activity, the zones that we use. 00:30:12.098 --> 00:30:21.473 - We name it where examples of where we have a hunter stationed on a particular day and then also goes 00:30:21.473 --> 00:30:31.497 - into the whole process of screening hunters. It goes into the deer taken year to year as well as percentage 00:30:31.497 --> 00:30:39.294 - male, female, amount of deer per zone and then the first time this year we actually 00:30:39.586 --> 00:30:47.930 - to chest measurements to start getting a better idea of overall deer health. I wish we had the resources 00:30:47.930 --> 00:30:56.036 - around where about we begin that at the beginning. We've got the data point. Though I have heard that 00:30:56.036 --> 00:31:04.063 - the model that they're using may not be as accurate as we would like here in the Midwest to estimate 00:31:04.063 --> 00:31:08.990 - deer weight. So we may look into other options in the future. 00:31:10.018 --> 00:31:18.572 - All the things, but I just wanted to, that's just the part of our deer management work at Berkeley. 00:31:18.572 --> 00:31:27.810 - So just to give you a quick update for 2026, 2025. We did our deer management during the first two weekends 00:31:27.810 --> 00:31:30.718 - of the deer rifle hunting season. 00:31:30.978 --> 00:31:38.673 - Ironically, the first date was homecoming. So if you can imagine being out in Berkeley hunting deer 00:31:38.673 --> 00:31:46.368 - and all of that is going on. And then also keeping the public out of Berkeley that day was a pretty 00:31:46.368 --> 00:31:54.139 - interesting challenge. And we hire a security service to be at our two main entrances throughout the 00:31:54.139 --> 00:31:58.910 - entire weekend. So 24 hours stationed. And then we have staff 00:31:59.106 --> 00:32:06.700 - during the day, because the countries aren't really out there during the day, we want to keep people 00:32:06.700 --> 00:32:14.820 - out of the park at all the entrances that are public trailheads. To complement our deer management efforts, 00:32:14.820 --> 00:32:20.158 - we began deer browse monitoring because our main threshold for success 00:32:20.802 --> 00:32:30.179 - is going to be the recovery of the plant communities accurately after heavy deer browse hysterically 00:32:30.179 --> 00:32:39.462 - in the landscape. So we began monitoring with a contractor in 2028, but some initial data was taken 00:32:39.462 --> 00:32:48.932 - in 2017 leading up to that. So we monitored at the beginning both herbaceous vegetation and the woody 00:32:48.932 --> 00:32:50.046 - understory. 00:32:50.658 --> 00:32:57.356 - The woody understory we discontinued. It reached a kind of a plateau within the first three years. We 00:32:57.356 --> 00:33:04.185 - may need to go back and revisit how we're looking at that data because the ash trees, emerald ash borer 00:33:04.185 --> 00:33:10.882 - has put a lot of young ash in the landscape because the ash trees have been using a lot of access for 00:33:10.882 --> 00:33:18.302 - it. So it ended up being a lot of ash trees in the understory. So it's kind of throwing off our metrics of other 00:33:18.402 --> 00:33:25.848 - We might need to narrow in on certain types of herbaceous or woody vegetation. But we used deer browse 00:33:25.848 --> 00:33:33.367 - indicator herbaceous vegetation and various transects that need it every year. And we've shown increase 00:33:33.367 --> 00:33:40.741 - in plant height in one of the two types of vegetation that we're actively monitoring. Solomon's seal, 00:33:40.741 --> 00:33:46.814 - which is one of our deer browse indicator species, is a direct, directly indicating 00:33:47.522 --> 00:33:55.079 - impacts or lack thereof on deer browse. So it's, it's basically shown a 50% increase in heights and 00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:02.862 - that happens again. Our other indicator species is jack in the pulpit. It's not as directly correlated 00:34:02.862 --> 00:34:10.494 - to deer browse, but it is correlated to compaction. So deer also add compaction on the landscape and 00:34:10.850 --> 00:34:17.650 - based on the root systems of that particular plant, compaction is a little harder to recover from. So 00:34:17.650 --> 00:34:24.517 - there is a lot more complicated with what's going on in that recovery there. So it's not shown as much 00:34:24.517 --> 00:34:31.051 - of a recovery. But the plant height is directly related to reproductive success of those species. 00:34:31.051 --> 00:34:37.918 - So yeah, the results of the deer hunt, just to summarize from this report, we took chest measurements. 00:34:37.918 --> 00:34:40.318 - We had 22 hunters that participated 00:34:40.578 --> 00:34:51.126 - It's pretty up and down, but usually right around 20 by plus or minus. And in 2025, 26 deer were taken 00:34:51.126 --> 00:35:01.879 - as compared to 1924. So it's a general decrease trend. But I think the bottom line is we have the number 00:35:01.879 --> 00:35:05.054 - of deer we remove each year is 00:35:05.826 --> 00:35:12.045 - is more than the deer than we've been advised that the park can sustain. So the work we're doing is 00:35:12.045 --> 00:35:18.264 - important, and deer aren't just in the park. They're coming in and off of our land from neighboring 00:35:18.264 --> 00:35:24.794 - properties, including we're adjacent to the IU Research and Teaching Preserve and the golf course, which 00:35:24.794 --> 00:35:31.262 - is not hunted. And the deer, in each year, hunters are not guaranteed success. So one of our challenges 00:35:31.262 --> 00:35:34.558 - is to retain hunters. And the hunters that we choose 00:35:34.882 --> 00:35:41.707 - They're not just really proficient at accuracy with the gun use, but they're also just showing a dedication 00:35:41.707 --> 00:35:48.217 - to community service. So they're not out there for trophy hunting, they're out there because they want 00:35:48.217 --> 00:35:55.358 - to help make a difference in the environment. This year we are not going to be working with white buffalo again. 00:35:56.482 --> 00:36:04.325 - limited staffing and priorities elsewhere in the world. So we're currently evaluating a few different 00:36:04.325 --> 00:36:12.244 - options for our deer management for this year. And yeah, I feel like there's lots of questions I could 00:36:12.244 --> 00:36:20.010 - answer and going to, but if anybody had any questions about that. Oh, and my name is Mary Wells. I'm 00:36:20.010 --> 00:36:26.238 - the natural resources manager. I apologize. And this is just shy, just above my, 00:36:26.498 --> 00:36:35.070 - first year here on my job. So all of the previous year management efforts leading up to this were under 00:36:35.070 --> 00:36:43.641 - the watch of the person that I replaced. But I can say that our first deer management activity happened 00:36:43.641 --> 00:36:46.526 - in 2018. So we actually, the first 00:36:46.978 --> 00:36:54.718 - Activity was a poll, which was conducted by White Buffalo. They're using their sharpshooter staff. We 00:36:54.718 --> 00:37:02.381 - opened it up to kind of a community fund to use it through the DNR chat program. The chat program is 00:37:02.381 --> 00:37:10.348 - discontinued, so those funds are through non-rewarding funds within Parks and Rec and academic services. 00:37:10.348 --> 00:37:16.798 - Do you have in this the tables or figures with the tenant biodiversity measurements? 00:37:17.026 --> 00:37:24.655 - And that I can also, I'll get it, I'll work with Julie to make sure it's up on the website and send 00:37:24.655 --> 00:37:32.513 - to you the 425 report from Eagle Legend, the deer browsing commission. Just to add to that, I know you 00:37:32.513 --> 00:37:40.142 - said you guys have chosen kind of chest measurements as a proxy for deer health. I was wondering if 00:37:40.142 --> 00:37:43.422 - you guys did a little thing else for like, 00:37:44.834 --> 00:37:52.504 - I don't know if there's anything feasible, but looking at ticks or anything like that on the deer, because 00:37:52.504 --> 00:38:00.032 - I know there's so many of them. Yeah, it is a human health risk due to tick-borne illness. So we haven't 00:38:00.032 --> 00:38:07.415 - done that study. I will say that the Monroe County Health Department does do those studies every year, 00:38:07.415 --> 00:38:11.358 - and I believe they've expanded their efforts for 2026. 00:38:12.002 --> 00:38:20.498 - That will be another agency that I would check in with to provide that data because they also monitor 00:38:20.498 --> 00:38:29.576 - the mosquitoes populations and incidence of mosquito borne from this swath. There's something like dovetail. 00:38:29.576 --> 00:38:37.822 - And then there's apogam, which is just another can of worms. It's not a pathogen, it's an allergy. 00:38:39.074 --> 00:38:48.324 - So overall, you all have seen an increase in your plant? Yeah, we're seeing results. There's more indicator 00:38:48.324 --> 00:38:57.403 - species available to us, but we have transects, and they don't occur within those transects. So we narrow 00:38:57.403 --> 00:39:06.910 - it down to just the two species. So woody plants, is that right? So woody plants would be woody vines, shrubs, 00:39:07.042 --> 00:39:16.164 - and young trees. And you're seeing an increase in the age? So they have increased. The way that we've 00:39:16.164 --> 00:39:25.376 - done a study before, we need to reset our parameters because the ash are throwing it off because we're 00:39:25.376 --> 00:39:33.694 - counting for all or none presence of woody vegetation and not by them to leave. So I can say 00:39:34.018 --> 00:39:42.577 - Yeah, I think we just need to read those metrics. And I think people, and I'm not gonna say too much 00:39:42.577 --> 00:39:51.475 - more, but I do know that there's been some updates to recommendations for what do you plan on monitoring 00:39:51.475 --> 00:39:59.102 - or geographic. Some books I've heard you have some additional information as to consider. 00:40:04.482 --> 00:40:14.244 - Are there any questions about what she shared or thoughts? Yeah, Buffalo has been doing it for quite 00:40:14.244 --> 00:40:23.909 - a while. They're kind of the worldwide name in it. Unfortunately, they're not available to us again 00:40:23.909 --> 00:40:27.582 - this year. Are there other companies? 00:40:27.874 --> 00:40:36.473 - There's people that were trained by Wright Buffalo and there's also the USDA APHIS. Don't ask me what 00:40:36.473 --> 00:40:44.987 - APHIS stands for, but they're based up in Purdue and it's based up at the U of A that offer calls as 00:40:44.987 --> 00:40:53.501 - well as management services. I was going to ask, so I don't know a ton about kind of the workings of 00:40:53.501 --> 00:40:56.030 - how you're doing that sort of 00:40:56.738 --> 00:41:03.660 - that fluctuation of the plants, especially. But do you work with any other, are your conversations about 00:41:03.660 --> 00:41:10.385 - the data at all informed by what's happening with invasive species removal or any of the other things 00:41:10.385 --> 00:41:17.175 - that are being done to take care of? Yeah, I'm glad you asked that. I meant to mention that one of the 00:41:17.175 --> 00:41:25.086 - observations is the transects are showing us from the woody vegetation that, and then just from observations, that deer 00:41:25.218 --> 00:41:33.512 - Over winter, kind of in the upstream areas of 53 basically if you go out of your field, it's the wetland 00:41:33.512 --> 00:41:41.411 - trail area. We have a high percentage of woody invasives in that industry. Deer selects or the data 00:41:41.411 --> 00:41:49.389 - shows that deer browse favors invasive species and then also they're spreading it through eating and 00:41:49.389 --> 00:41:51.838 - depositing the propagules. But 00:41:52.130 --> 00:42:00.291 - Interestingly enough, we have undertaken a nine acre evasive species removal in that wetland area this 00:42:00.291 --> 00:42:08.214 - year. So we'll see how that changes things down there. And we'll be staying on that for a while and 00:42:08.214 --> 00:42:15.582 - make sure that that's all we're doing. Any thoughts or questions from members of the public? 00:42:21.346 --> 00:42:29.237 - for coming in and talking us through that. It's super helpful to see them. We might have a report too. 00:42:29.237 --> 00:42:36.898 - Yeah, and I'm just, yeah, I want to make sure that that's accessible. Oh, yeah, that's cool. Right. 00:42:36.898 --> 00:42:44.559 - Well, thanks. Okay, well then, if that is our presentation, then moving on to one of the hot button 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.926 - items, which is officer elections. This is where we will 00:42:49.186 --> 00:42:54.754 - through nominations for who will be in the roles of chair, vice chair, slash treasurer, and secretary. 00:42:54.754 --> 00:43:00.214 - We've been talking about this for about five months now. So hopefully you've been thinking about it. 00:43:00.214 --> 00:43:05.836 - If you have somebody that you would like to nominate for in these positions, we would need a nomination 00:43:05.836 --> 00:43:11.513 - and then that person would then choose to accept that nomination or not. If you'd like to self nominate, 00:43:11.513 --> 00:43:16.919 - that would be wonderful. I love the enthusiasm. And then we need to identify who our candidates are 00:43:16.919 --> 00:43:18.270 - for the different roles. 00:43:18.530 --> 00:43:27.076 - Um, if there's more than one, we will vote for the rules individually. But if it's just one per position, 00:43:27.076 --> 00:43:35.299 - we can do it as, um, one blanket vote. But I would love to open the floor for questions, thoughts, or 00:43:35.299 --> 00:43:43.360 - nominations. Do we want to- Mary, you don't have to stay around for a bit. Do you want to stay? You 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:47.230 - can stay for the fact that you know that. Okay. 00:43:47.618 --> 00:43:52.630 - All right. So I'm not going to, we can go through the different positions and talk about them or people 00:43:52.630 --> 00:43:57.449 - can just kind of surround their thoughts or ideas, but I don't want to get on that. So generally it 00:43:57.449 --> 00:44:02.267 - starts at the top with chair. Do you want to go through chair responsibilities? I know we've talked 00:44:02.267 --> 00:44:07.231 - about this a little bit and I know it's in the handbook. Would you like more? We don't have to belabor 00:44:07.231 --> 00:44:12.146 - this honestly, like we can just, if people know that there are people they want to nominate or they'd 00:44:12.146 --> 00:44:15.134 - like to raise their hand, we can just jump right into it. So, 00:44:15.906 --> 00:44:31.155 - Do you have any folks who are interested in being considered for the chair position or you can nominate 00:44:31.155 --> 00:44:39.806 - someone else? Think about it, think about it. Other folks. 00:44:40.578 --> 00:44:54.571 - Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Other folks who are interested in it. If you make eye 00:44:54.571 --> 00:45:07.070 - contact, it doesn't mean that you're nominated. I do not intend to self nominate for chair. 00:45:08.578 --> 00:45:14.591 - Carl, how do you feel about accepting the nomination? Can you go over the time commitment for this? 00:45:14.591 --> 00:45:20.784 - Yeah. Everyone has their own styles of being chaired, so it can really be as, it can be more involved, 00:45:20.784 --> 00:45:26.917 - but it can also be a little more hands-off, obviously. Actually, you know, I can pull up the handbook 00:45:26.917 --> 00:45:29.502 - too and read you what it is officially on. 00:45:30.146 --> 00:45:38.397 - Yeah, I don't want the official. I want the like, you want the like, yeah. So what I can tell you is 00:45:38.397 --> 00:45:45.995 - that the way that I feel about being shared is it's a lot of making sure that people are one 00:45:45.995 --> 00:45:54.164 - like participating that we're hearing their thoughts and concerns and really working to keep people 00:45:54.164 --> 00:45:58.494 - included and involved. It means making sure I try to 00:45:58.818 --> 00:46:04.931 - But most oftenly, I try to stay kind of neutral just to kind of help cultivate a very safe and open 00:46:04.931 --> 00:46:11.349 - place for people to express an interest or concerns or whatever. I spend, I definitely spend time before 00:46:11.349 --> 00:46:17.645 - the meeting looking over my previous minutes. I look at the packet, things like that. I prep my agenda 00:46:17.645 --> 00:46:24.124 - ahead of time. I, you know, so I put time into just the meeting piece of it. I'm kind of like the default 00:46:24.124 --> 00:46:27.486 - contact person for doing my stuff. So Rachel emails me 00:46:28.450 --> 00:46:34.062 - pretty frequently with either just not like communication things or to nudge conversations or to say 00:46:34.062 --> 00:46:40.007 - like, you know, this person was interested in whatever. So being kind of that point of contact for Rachel. 00:46:40.007 --> 00:46:45.841 - And that's something that it's because of her availability and like work hours to kind of it's sometimes 00:46:45.841 --> 00:46:51.453 - it's time sensitive, sometimes it's stuff that takes a while. I think it's really important that the 00:46:51.453 --> 00:46:54.398 - chair be involved in the commission. So whether it's 00:46:54.722 --> 00:47:00.239 - one of our theme areas that we're talking about, like biodiversity, or why we can respond to the eco 00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:05.921 - heroes. I mean, but that's the thing is like, you don't have to be the head of the eco heroes and maybe 00:47:05.921 --> 00:47:11.493 - stab them, forget somebody to be the head and not be also doing a lot of things. Um, but it really is 00:47:11.493 --> 00:47:17.174 - about like, in my opinion, it was keeping, you can, you can be yourself and have all of your own things 00:47:17.174 --> 00:47:22.910 - like that, but as leading the meeting and communicating with the group, trying to keep that even keel of 00:47:23.202 --> 00:47:29.867 - Are people being heard? Are we identifying when we need to say something as a group or when that's not 00:47:29.867 --> 00:47:36.727 - even a service? You do such a lovely job of that. Thanks, Kyle. Why don't you want the position? I didn't 00:47:36.727 --> 00:47:43.263 - say anyone wanted the position. I'm just trying to make sure. My way is not the only way to do it is 00:47:43.263 --> 00:47:49.022 - the thing. This is how I do it. This is how I operate as a human being so I can help it. 00:47:49.218 --> 00:47:54.820 - But there are lots of other ways to be a chair. And Matt has seen buckets of chairs. Interim chair. 00:47:54.820 --> 00:48:00.591 - I did less than a year when a chair rolled off. It's a terrible story to tell. Yeah, right. But you've 00:48:00.591 --> 00:48:06.194 - seen lots of different styles of being a chair. It's true. Everybody definitely has, you know, puts 00:48:06.194 --> 00:48:12.020 - their own stamp on it. What you specifically asked, the time difference, and that is mostly that you're 00:48:12.020 --> 00:48:16.222 - communicating with the liaison, whether that's to, you know, make sure you 00:48:16.482 --> 00:48:23.648 - have a full understanding of the final drafting of the agenda, or whether it's just, I don't know, there 00:48:23.648 --> 00:48:30.882 - was a simpler time where everyone emailed everyone, but it's not the case now. So you have to be a little 00:48:30.882 --> 00:48:37.502 - more hands-on, like Carrie said, about things, especially time-sensitive things like eco-heroes, 00:48:37.502 --> 00:48:45.214 - but that is, you know, covered once out of the year, depending on how things work. So, yeah, generally speaking, 00:48:46.466 --> 00:48:52.859 - unless you're someone who really, really likes to put a lot of time into your meeting prep, it's not 00:48:52.859 --> 00:48:59.253 - as heavy a lift as you'd think, but there's more communicating with the liaison in particular. Yeah, 00:48:59.253 --> 00:49:05.773 - like writing an annual report, delivering that, or somebody might want to talk to the chair about some 00:49:05.773 --> 00:49:12.293 - thing that we're doing or an event or whatever it is. I think it's being ready to be the face or voice 00:49:12.293 --> 00:49:15.838 - of what we're doing when those moments are appropriate. 00:49:16.738 --> 00:49:24.368 - being conscientious of what that means to be representative of our collective group. So, yeah. Okay, 00:49:24.368 --> 00:49:32.149 - that was very helpful. I'm thorough. Thank you. If I could fill out a separate nomination, Carl, would 00:49:32.149 --> 00:49:39.704 - you be willing to accept the nomination? So, it was not my plan actually to get involved in many of 00:49:39.704 --> 00:49:46.654 - the leadership positions today. I would consider it only if you were very not interested in 00:49:46.850 --> 00:49:54.892 - in the role anymore. Otherwise, I think you're very experienced. I think you do a really good job, especially 00:49:54.892 --> 00:50:02.348 - the facilitating the discussion aspect of it. My preference would be to keep you as chair, but if you 00:50:02.348 --> 00:50:09.805 - really want to step down, then I would be willing to accept the nomination. Flip the question, Kerry, 00:50:09.805 --> 00:50:11.998 - do you accept the nomination? 00:50:12.130 --> 00:50:18.405 - I came in here worried that we weren't going to have any nomination so I mean I'm willing to accept 00:50:18.405 --> 00:50:24.805 - the nomination for sure but I do not need to be the chair if if there's enthusiasm around it. I would 00:50:24.805 --> 00:50:30.578 - say that like I think it's I think that the way that our commission is structured right now 00:50:30.578 --> 00:50:36.915 - with non-individual working groups we're figuring out the communication stuff we'll be getting there 00:50:36.915 --> 00:50:37.982 - I would say that 00:50:39.426 --> 00:50:46.916 - the chair can look at a lot of things. And so depending on kind of, depending on your interpretation 00:50:46.916 --> 00:50:54.406 - of it, I think it can be a good fit for however much time or energy you have for it. But at the same 00:50:54.406 --> 00:51:01.969 - time, we also have a vice chair slash treasurer position. We also have a secretary position, so yeah. 00:51:01.969 --> 00:51:07.902 - Okay, so you're, you'll accept the nominate, you'll, are you on? I will accept. 00:51:08.066 --> 00:51:17.076 - Okay, great. So officially, we have two nominations for chair. Anybody else after I gave that long-winded 00:51:17.076 --> 00:51:26.342 - description? Anyone else interested or interested in nominating? Okay. Well, for vice chair slash treasurer, 00:51:26.342 --> 00:51:33.822 - are there any folks who would like to self-nominate or name a commissioner to nominate? 00:51:35.682 --> 00:51:41.671 - do not intend to self-nominate as vice chair slash treasurer. Can I ask another process question? Do 00:51:41.671 --> 00:51:47.660 - you basically nominate them all before you vote? I think to find out if we have multiple, if we need 00:51:47.660 --> 00:51:53.708 - to have multiple votes or if we just do not get votes. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't actually specify in our 00:51:53.708 --> 00:52:00.052 - handbook the bylaws either. Well, I was just curious, like, when you finish now, that is a lot of receipts 00:52:00.052 --> 00:52:03.966 - they have to fill. We do them, the big ones one at a time so that 00:52:04.386 --> 00:52:11.060 - It's like if Carl takes it and here he doesn't, then here he may be able to share. Fair point. And if 00:52:11.060 --> 00:52:17.603 - it is easier from your seat, we can absolutely go position by position. We don't have it written in 00:52:17.603 --> 00:52:24.146 - stone. We don't have a strong precedent. Would we have to, since we have two nominations, where one 00:52:24.146 --> 00:52:30.820 - of the positions are always? We'll have to vote one at a time? Yeah, we'll have to vote one at a time 00:52:30.820 --> 00:52:31.998 - either right now. 00:52:32.418 --> 00:52:39.667 - I guess it's a good point, then, that we should probably call the vote on chair so that we know who 00:52:39.667 --> 00:52:47.206 - is and isn't in next votes. I don't know that's my opinion. Yeah, that way. Separate votes? Yeah. Yeah. 00:52:47.206 --> 00:52:55.108 - Yes, I think it'd be good to go forward with chair. I don't know. In fact, I've looked behind the commission 00:52:55.108 --> 00:53:01.342 - when we haven't had just one per person. Yeah, it's hard to convince people to do it. 00:53:01.506 --> 00:53:07.575 - such that I don't have to know the procedure. Do I have to motion that we call a roll call vote for 00:53:07.575 --> 00:53:13.825 - position of chair? That's the thing, I mean, I don't know if you have a problem with that. Oh, there's 00:53:13.825 --> 00:53:20.015 - yes or no. So you're like, either Carl and Kerry are not beforehand, and then we're voting for one of 00:53:20.015 --> 00:53:26.266 - them, or you're voting for Carl and Kerry would be by experience. Usually, it's where we decided who's 00:53:26.266 --> 00:53:27.358 - going to take it. 00:53:27.810 --> 00:53:33.724 - Let me think that on council, sometimes two people want something, but then they vote. Like, I think 00:53:33.724 --> 00:53:39.637 - they vote. Do they just vote in separate, like you would say? I think that around its rules, you get 00:53:39.637 --> 00:53:45.844 - one issue at a time. So it would be one candidate who gets considered at a time. And then there's neither 00:53:45.844 --> 00:53:51.699 - one of those then. Okay. I think you're right. I don't think it's like, choose a name. I think it's 00:53:51.699 --> 00:53:56.734 - like, yeah, comedy. Okay. So remember which one you vote for so you don't vote twice. 00:53:56.866 --> 00:54:14.278 - or don't. Okay, so yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how that would be worried. Honestly, anybody 00:54:14.278 --> 00:54:26.814 - can make the motion. So so I moved to have a vote of the candidates for 00:54:27.074 --> 00:54:37.396 - Chair. I vote, I move to vote. I move that we, I move that we vote on electing Kerry as chair of the 00:54:37.396 --> 00:54:47.922 - commission. Second. Okay. Yeah, that would have to be a yes, no roll call. Yes, that's yes. Can I just 00:54:47.922 --> 00:54:54.462 - make a suggestion? So Adam moves to elect Kerry as chair. Yeah. 00:55:02.178 --> 00:55:12.637 - Okay, sorry. So the motion on the floor is to the left. Very all right. A share for the coming year. 00:55:12.637 --> 00:55:23.303 - Adam Budiker. Yes. Adam Martinez. Yes. Mitchell Owens. Yes. Earl, I don't want to say your fault. Yes. 00:55:23.303 --> 00:55:31.070 - I'm sure. Yes. All right. Abstain. Brown. Abstain. And Colleen. Yes. Okay. 00:55:31.170 --> 00:55:51.572 - 602 is enough. What's your policy? Yeah, yeah, 602, but I'm so sorry. I hate you guys. We only get a 00:55:51.572 --> 00:55:55.006 - majority of 400. 00:55:55.970 --> 00:56:02.995 - You mean you only need the majority of numbers present? I think, yeah. That's what your rules are. I 00:56:02.995 --> 00:56:10.020 - know your rules to change 100 times. I think that's it. Okay. What did she say? That's what I had to 00:56:10.020 --> 00:56:16.975 - do. Oh, okay. I think if we had the people to do it, we would have five. Yeah. Okay. Six here. Most 00:56:16.975 --> 00:56:23.443 - should pass it. Yeah, so the majority though. There's a tag here. It's back to the same, but 00:56:23.443 --> 00:56:25.182 - it's unprofitable. Okay. 00:56:26.754 --> 00:56:34.333 - So if it passes, then she's chair. Yes. So we don't need to vote. And if it passes, then the second 00:56:34.333 --> 00:56:42.216 - issue is moved. OK. All right. Well, thanks, folks. Thank you, Robert. So this works. Great. Well, then 00:56:42.216 --> 00:56:50.174 - let's move on to the next position, which is the vice chair slash treasurer. I'm going to nominate Carl. 00:56:50.754 --> 00:56:59.992 - We'd be a potential leader for if the chair's not here and also being treasurer helps you get a little 00:56:59.992 --> 00:57:09.140 - gauging of what we're up to and kind of help with opportunities to do things with the community or do 00:57:09.140 --> 00:57:19.006 - things to build out what we're doing as a commission. So I am going to nominate Bart. I'll second that. Yeah. 00:57:20.834 --> 00:57:26.176 - I know this was covered last month, but I just want to volunteer it anyway, because I can't remember 00:57:26.176 --> 00:57:31.677 - who was here and who wasn't. The vice chair slash treasurer position in terms of extra responsibilities 00:57:31.677 --> 00:57:37.019 - per month ranges from absolutely nothing to a couple more emails and running a meeting, usually with 00:57:37.019 --> 00:57:42.308 - notice, but every once in a great while learning same day that you're running a meeting. That being 00:57:42.308 --> 00:57:47.597 - said, the agenda is already laid out. It's pretty straightforward. You can't really mess it up. You 00:57:47.597 --> 00:57:49.342 - can just come across as a little 00:57:49.666 --> 00:57:55.883 - It's a little awkward at it, which I do every time that I lead it. So honestly, no pressure. Treasurer, 00:57:55.883 --> 00:58:01.981 - it's a very small lift. We have a relatively small budget. When we decide as a commission, we want to 00:58:01.981 --> 00:58:08.138 - do something like print 1,000 pages of bug bingo for Bugfest, which is something that I expect we will 00:58:08.138 --> 00:58:14.356 - choose to do next go around. Or if leadership decides to do something like that, then the liaison would 00:58:14.356 --> 00:58:19.198 - just email the treasurer and say, do you approve of this? And you say yes or no. 00:58:19.330 --> 00:58:27.383 - That is the extent of it. It's a great opportunity to be a little bit more involved with leadership, 00:58:27.383 --> 00:58:35.435 - but to generally not have much, if at all, additional on your plate. If it's not a lot, then why are 00:58:35.435 --> 00:58:43.408 - you not interested in it? I've done this a long time. I would love to see other people develop, get 00:58:43.408 --> 00:58:48.670 - more involved, and also, yeah, I'm not sure what my future holds. 00:58:49.090 --> 00:58:55.244 - I want to see. Yeah, I very much support Carl's nomination, but I'd also love to see other 00:58:55.244 --> 00:59:02.345 - people considering. I think everybody in this room could do it if they wanted to, and it's just a matter 00:59:02.345 --> 00:59:09.311 - of sometimes you don't know until you're doing it so. If anyone else wants to self nominate, obviously 00:59:09.311 --> 00:59:15.262 - here for that as well, but just wanted to share the info. I'll accept the nomination if 00:59:15.394 --> 00:59:23.500 - No one else wants to do it. I say that like I'm getting my arm twisted. I do care about this commission. 00:59:23.500 --> 00:59:31.529 - We'll do a good job with this. It's just I know personally, I'm going to have very busy schedule coming 00:59:31.529 --> 00:59:39.326 - up. But you make it sound like the lift isn't very heavy. It usually isn't. All right. Every once in 00:59:39.326 --> 00:59:44.190 - a while it catches you off guard. It is usually very much not. 00:59:44.290 --> 00:59:56.949 - Are there any other folks who are interested in Vice-Chair of the Treasurer or someone they'd like to 00:59:56.949 --> 01:00:10.228 - nominate? I'll see no other self-nominations. I move we vote for Carl Geiser as Vice-Chair slash Treasurer 01:00:10.228 --> 01:00:11.966 - of DC. Sorry. 01:00:17.378 --> 01:00:33.602 - Thank you. So this is a motion is for approval. I assume the vice chair slash director. Martinez, yes, 01:00:33.602 --> 01:00:46.046 - oh yes, geyser. That's sure. Yes, all right. Yes, Brad. Yes, I'll be yes, yes. 01:00:47.330 --> 01:00:55.235 - Awesome. Well, how exciting. Well, then we have one officer position left. It is the secretary role. 01:00:55.235 --> 01:01:03.531 - I know that Adam has talked a little bit about what the secretary position is like, but is there anything 01:01:03.531 --> 01:01:11.671 - else, Adam, you want to elaborate on about the role? I think I said most of it in the last minute. It's 01:01:11.671 --> 01:01:17.150 - pretty straightforward. It's just taking minutes. The liaison usually 01:01:17.634 --> 01:01:24.016 - gives you the rough outline and then you're just adding on whatever votes you take during the meeting. 01:01:24.016 --> 01:01:30.521 - It's not too much of a lift outside of meeting itself, like 10 to 20 minutes maybe outside, just reading 01:01:30.521 --> 01:01:37.213 - through it and fixing your typos each time. Are there any folks who are interested in nominating themselves 01:01:37.213 --> 01:01:38.142 - for secretary? 01:01:38.434 --> 01:01:47.396 - I am willing to continue doing it, but if anyone has a burning desire, we also vary of them possibly. 01:01:47.396 --> 01:01:56.006 - I'm going to add into the little thing. Any of the folks who are feeling on the fence interested, 01:01:56.006 --> 01:02:04.968 - potentially, in groups that throw their name out? They're really like avoiding eye contact. I love it 01:02:04.968 --> 01:02:06.462 - when I say that. 01:02:07.458 --> 01:02:17.345 - Oh, I love it. That's what I needed to hear. Wonderful. I love it. Great. Well, I think this is great. 01:02:17.345 --> 01:02:27.039 - Well, I move that we vote for Adam Martinez as our secretary. Second. Is that you, Matt? Yes. So the 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:36.926 - motion is to vote Adam Martinez as the secretary? Yes. And then it will start with Owens? Yes. Geyser? 01:02:37.218 --> 01:02:55.610 - Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I love it. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. Okay. Well, thanks so much, 01:02:55.610 --> 01:03:07.038 - y'all for for participating in that and yeah, excited about the 01:03:07.170 --> 01:03:13.533 - The next thing is coming up, and yeah, thanks, Anne and Carl, for being part of the team that keeps 01:03:13.533 --> 01:03:20.024 - us moving. All right, well, then we're going to move on to our last bit of new business, which is the 01:03:20.024 --> 01:03:26.514 - inter-report presentation. That's actually, well, they're not here for you to view, but I just wanted 01:03:26.514 --> 01:03:33.005 - to share that I need Carl and Justin's photos to go onto the slide deck, please. So if you could send 01:03:33.005 --> 01:03:35.614 - me a photo of yourself, that'd be great. 01:03:36.002 --> 01:03:42.932 - Um, and I wanted to confirm with Rachel, but Matt, you probably know this. How many ECPC memos we wrote 01:03:42.932 --> 01:03:49.595 - last year? I have to look. Okay. Um, but Jackie, is that something that you would be able to? I may 01:03:49.595 --> 01:03:56.392 - be able to figure that out. Okay. I think it's only a couple because it's, it's because the ECPC just 01:03:56.392 --> 01:04:00.190 - kind of came back to life last year. Right. I think two. 01:04:00.578 --> 01:04:05.694 - And so remember which ones were like a last year and which ones were this year. This year we've only 01:04:05.694 --> 01:04:11.012 - done the one so far at the Saint Remy. Yeah. Is that the one that we had to do the extra vote for? Yeah, 01:04:11.012 --> 01:04:16.127 - it was like back in February or something. I think it might have been maybe two in 2025. I'll double 01:04:16.127 --> 01:04:21.294 - check and just send it to you and see what you think. Thank you. That's perfect. I appreciate it. And 01:04:21.294 --> 01:04:26.561 - I want to see, Mitchell, is there anything specific that you want me to do about water polish? I didn't 01:04:26.561 --> 01:04:28.638 - remember if I put it on the outside. OK. 01:04:29.250 --> 01:04:35.820 - Okay, cool. Easy peasy. Great. Well, I think that Rachel put it out there to the council for us to get 01:04:35.820 --> 01:04:42.772 - on the books for now. Oh, yeah. I'll let you know when that comes up, but it will be a revenue presentation. 01:04:42.772 --> 01:04:49.151 - You're going to love it, but they're always very engaging and interested in the stuff that we're up 01:04:49.151 --> 01:04:56.039 - to, so it's always a nice conversation. Great. Okay. Well, then I'm going to move along, too. Old business. 01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:58.782 - Looks like we don't have any old business. 01:04:59.170 --> 01:05:05.754 - Wonderful. Commissioner announcements, this is one we usually will share if there are things that are 01:05:05.754 --> 01:05:12.273 - relevant to the commission or useful to share that are going on, we'll be able to talk about. I know 01:05:12.273 --> 01:05:18.922 - that we talked about the BioBlitz last, no, I guess it's two months ago. You talked about it. And last 01:05:18.922 --> 01:05:25.119 - month too. That is happening next weekend. Awesome. Registration's already closed, sorry. Well, 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:28.798 - it'll be fun. Yeah, the city of Bloomington has its big. 01:05:28.962 --> 01:05:36.847 - big thing going on too. Are there any other announcements that folks want to share? I have two things 01:05:36.847 --> 01:05:44.578 - that I need to talk about. One is, CDU is doing a great infrastructure tour next Thursday from five 01:05:44.578 --> 01:05:52.773 - to seven. An hour ago, they sent an invitation to you all who'd like to join the very first pilot program 01:05:52.773 --> 01:05:56.638 - version of their long degree infrastructure tour. 01:05:56.866 --> 01:06:02.355 - Next Thursday, June 18th, from 5 to 7, they will load onto a Bloomington Transit electric bus at the 01:06:02.355 --> 01:06:07.844 - Utility Service Center located at the system release and motor drive. The bus should arrive at about 01:06:07.844 --> 01:06:13.604 - 445 and they plan to head up promptly at 5. She sent me a link that I will forward to you all if anyone's 01:06:13.604 --> 01:06:16.702 - interested in going to the bus for you to attend. Go on. 01:06:16.898 --> 01:06:24.517 - And you said or actually called nexus on back. OK, can I get any work and have a bottle? Yes, OK, perfect. 01:06:24.517 --> 01:06:32.136 - I don't know what it is, so I do remember. Sorry, directory handle another one reason he square is leaving 01:06:32.136 --> 01:06:39.542 - so I don't know that that will directly affect you all or how that, but if. If there's any like I don't 01:06:39.542 --> 01:06:43.102 - know if that will further discussion about are we 01:06:43.394 --> 01:06:48.497 - through being a B class or now that will be like more diverse or less than four or whatever. 01:06:48.497 --> 01:06:54.093 - It was in on, you know, at the admin. I've always said they want us to focus on, but I just wanted to 01:06:54.093 --> 01:06:59.635 - make sure you guys heard. Thank you for that. Heidi, do you think if, well, actually anybody, if you 01:06:59.635 --> 01:07:05.176 - go to the green infrastructure tour, if there's anything to work like taking pictures of or anything 01:07:05.176 --> 01:07:10.718 - like that that you want to bring back to the next meeting, I'd be super, super interested in knowing 01:07:10.718 --> 01:07:13.022 - about. We'll take just a picture on that. 01:07:13.154 --> 01:07:42.366 - I know it's the middle of the year, but it feels like the new year and a new officer and all that. 01:07:42.690 --> 01:07:48.789 - I want people to think about goals some before the next meeting if at all possible. I know 01:07:48.789 --> 01:07:56.095 - that we technically don't have our planning one until November, but now that we've gotten through EcoHeroes, 01:07:56.095 --> 01:08:02.797 - that we're getting some of the core and other things figured out, think about what you'd like to do 01:08:02.797 --> 01:08:08.897 - if you already have something like Mitchell. Think about what help you could use from your 01:08:08.897 --> 01:08:12.382 - fellow commissioners so that we can get through it. 01:08:13.378 --> 01:08:22.305 - Yeah, that's it. Just take a look and think about that before the next meeting. I guess another announcement 01:08:22.305 --> 01:08:30.822 - I'd like to make is thank you to everyone who accepted nominations to be a part of the leadership here. 01:08:30.822 --> 01:08:39.093 - Much appreciated. Other announcements from the folks? Oh, wait, one more. Pressure people, you know, 01:08:39.093 --> 01:08:40.158 - particularly 01:08:40.386 --> 01:08:47.113 - qualified and enthusiastic people to submit applications to be on the Environmental Commission so that 01:08:47.113 --> 01:08:53.840 - it is easier for someone to have a vacation or work or whatever and still meet for it. So there is one 01:08:53.840 --> 01:09:00.371 - council vacancy and a few mayoral vacancies. If you know anyone that feels like a fit, please nudge 01:09:00.371 --> 01:09:06.903 - them to apply. That's a great note. And unless folks have any other announcements, I think that's a 01:09:06.903 --> 01:09:08.862 - good time to end on, which is 01:09:09.314 --> 01:09:14.656 - As we're thinking about how the year's going on, I think that the current world climate has us all feeling 01:09:14.656 --> 01:09:20.049 - very, there's a lot going on. We're busy, we're tired, there's a lot of things that kind of are appropriate 01:09:20.049 --> 01:09:25.042 - for us to feel like we need to kind of take some space for ourselves and that's really good. I have 01:09:25.042 --> 01:09:30.184 - someone that this commission works with best when people are doing things that they really care about. 01:09:30.184 --> 01:09:35.427 - So whether it's light pollution or getting materials together that we can share with the community about 01:09:35.427 --> 01:09:37.374 - what our water quality situation is or 01:09:37.538 --> 01:09:42.235 - what, you know, maybe we're right into the paper about things that we really, you know, have time to, 01:09:42.235 --> 01:09:46.840 - you know, show them the resources they're ever for. I think it's my favorite time on the EC is when 01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:51.676 - people are doing what they really care about. So as you're thinking about how the rest of the year goes, 01:09:51.676 --> 01:09:56.281 - and we're thinking about our different kinds of, you know, having committee or commissioner reports 01:09:56.281 --> 01:10:00.932 - and stuff like that, go through and bring up ideas that you have or things that you've been doing or 01:10:00.932 --> 01:10:02.590 - if you're curious about if anyone's 01:10:02.978 --> 01:10:09.061 - still talking about the habitat and activity plan, stuff like that. Like that's all totally stuff that 01:10:09.061 --> 01:10:15.026 - will keep us, keep our heart and heart rate strong and keeping it easy doing good stuff and negative 01:10:15.026 --> 01:10:21.110 - healing. For more commissioners to join us in our forum, give me something that allows us to have sick 01:10:21.110 --> 01:10:27.134 - days and whatever else. Great. Okay, well just a reminder that our next meeting is July 16th and as I 01:10:27.490 --> 01:10:33.680 - mentioned, we need all of us here. So if you do not think you'll be able to come to that meeting, please 01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:39.575 - raise your hand as soon as you know that and we can either negotiate another meeting time or figure 01:10:39.575 --> 01:10:45.470 - out what we can do about that meeting. Otherwise, a motion be adjourned. All right. Well, thank you 01:10:45.470 --> 01:10:46.590 - so much. It's 712.