WEBVTT 00:00:00.130 --> 00:00:08.244 - All right. Well, this is a special, very short meeting of the Bloomington Board of Park Commissioners 00:00:08.244 --> 00:00:16.676 - just to address two items on the agenda. So Tim, filling in for Kim, can do the roll call, please. That's 00:00:16.676 --> 00:00:24.949 - right. OK. So for attendance, roll call, Kathleen Mills. Here. Israel Herrera. Here. Ellen Rocky. Here. 00:00:24.949 --> 00:00:29.086 - OK. And we do not have Jim, but we do have a forum. 00:00:29.186 --> 00:00:36.065 - So, as I said, we just have two items. A, one is the approval of the Greenville Limit Stone for rail 00:00:36.065 --> 00:00:43.148 - trail improvements. Yes, Rebecca Swift, Operations and Development Division Director, here to recommend 00:00:43.148 --> 00:00:50.299 - approval of the service agreement with milestone contractors for the Bloomington Rail Trail Roger Street 00:00:50.299 --> 00:00:55.134 - Crossing Project. The total is not to exceed $212,000 or $212,280,000. 00:00:55.426 --> 00:01:01.172 - Speak right now. Sorry. Words numbers. Um, anyway, milestone provide all necessary material labor equipment 00:01:01.172 --> 00:01:06.758 - to complete the Bloomington ranch arrived to frosting. Mostly this is to realign the frosting to improve 00:01:06.758 --> 00:01:12.291 - pedestrian safety. We're going to be putting in a new street light as well as an rapid flashing beacon. 00:01:12.291 --> 00:01:14.526 - That's going to be pedestrian controlled. 00:01:14.882 --> 00:01:21.151 - We are planning to pave each side of the road, a certain section of the rail trail, but just to clarify, 00:01:21.151 --> 00:01:27.122 - the rail trail will remain an unpaved trail for the most part. This is just to improve the apron on 00:01:27.122 --> 00:01:33.152 - each side of the Rockham Street. There was a little bit of grading needed and some site restoration, 00:01:33.152 --> 00:01:38.944 - but other than that, it's a pretty straightforward project. Happy to answer any questions. Okay. 00:01:38.944 --> 00:01:42.526 - Thank you. I have one question, but you are being answered. 00:01:43.970 --> 00:01:53.686 - All right. Any questions, Israel or Ellen? I don't have a question from here. OK. Ellen, do you want 00:01:53.686 --> 00:02:03.402 - to? No. Oh, I'll make a motion. Yes, I'll make a motion to approve a contract with Milestone for the 00:02:03.402 --> 00:02:12.830 - rail trail and Rogers Street intersection. I second. OK. And all those in favor? We'll call them. 00:02:13.410 --> 00:02:23.238 - started making a motion. Ellen, second is Israel. We'll call the vote. Kathleen Mills. Aye. Ellen Gryke. 00:02:23.238 --> 00:02:32.411 - Aye. Israel Hergera. Aye. Okay, that motion is carried. And then in our second item this evening, 00:02:32.411 --> 00:02:36.062 - we have, just hit that, just hit stop. 00:02:37.826 --> 00:02:44.279 - We have an ATU approval of the trail closure for rail trail improvements, which is also Rebecca's work. 00:02:44.279 --> 00:02:50.732 - Yeah. So in order to do the project, I just presented to you, we do need to close temporarily, but full 00:02:50.732 --> 00:02:57.372 - closure of the rail trail in this corridor. We're estimating less than 30 days. I put in here an estimated 00:02:57.372 --> 00:03:03.639 - start date October 15th, knowing that we had a delay a little bit for this session, probably be more 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:07.486 - closer to October 20th. The contractor is estimating 21 days. 00:03:07.586 --> 00:03:14.958 - It will not require a full trail closure that entire time, but it's better to assume the full construction 00:03:14.958 --> 00:03:21.916 - schedule with. And there will be some temporary road closures, but obviously that is outside of this 00:03:21.916 --> 00:03:29.081 - application. I am just requesting park board's approval of the temporary full trail closure of the rail 00:03:29.081 --> 00:03:35.006 - trail. Okay. All right. Any questions about this for Rebecca? No, no questions. Okay. 00:03:35.650 --> 00:03:40.847 - So will we provide any, like, what kind of signage or what kind of communication are we doing to... 00:03:40.847 --> 00:03:46.200 - Great question. So big shout out to our communications manager, Julie Reagney. I'm going to be working 00:03:46.200 --> 00:03:51.553 - with her. She's already got a draft yard sign for me that's got a QR code. We'll actually put that out 00:03:51.553 --> 00:03:56.542 - on site. So people who arrive on site can scan the QR code and it takes them to a project page. 00:03:56.706 --> 00:04:01.893 - and they get a bunch of updates that we can update as the project continues. We're also gonna do some 00:04:01.893 --> 00:04:07.385 - social media posts. So between the social media, obviously that's a big reach for us. We have 14K followers 00:04:07.385 --> 00:04:12.673 - and then we do press releases as well. So there'll be a press release coming through the mayor's office 00:04:12.673 --> 00:04:17.910 - and as well as social media and then actual physical sites. Is there anything that's like trail closed 00:04:17.910 --> 00:04:23.199 - ahead or like any, I was just like, I don't know, you're just out for a run or trying to ride your bike 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:25.182 - or whatever. Do you have any suggested 00:04:25.698 --> 00:04:32.302 - reroutes or anything. Great question. There is no actual detour for this trail. There's no way to reroute 00:04:32.302 --> 00:04:38.532 - people around it officially, so we will absolutely try to give people notice at major trailhead. So 00:04:38.532 --> 00:04:45.073 - the rail trail trailhead along Countryside Road, that parking lot, will have a yard sign there. It won't 00:04:45.073 --> 00:04:51.615 - be just right when the construction starts. It'll have to start at the major trailhead. So I think Julie 00:04:51.615 --> 00:04:55.664 - was estimating about 600 cents. Oh, okay, great. Okay. Yeah, not 00:04:55.664 --> 00:05:04.480 - I believe she's ordered those already. So we put those out ahead of the project with a QR code to a 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:13.649 - project page to let people get updates. Great question. Thank you. Any others? No? Okay. Oh, well, make 00:05:13.649 --> 00:05:21.760 - a motion. Sorry. Please just next. I'll make a motion to approve the closure permit for the 00:05:21.760 --> 00:05:25.022 - Bloomington-Roucher or Rogers Street 00:05:25.218 --> 00:05:36.837 - I'll say. We'll keep second. Okay. And our roll call vote of all those in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. 00:05:36.837 --> 00:05:48.915 - Aye. In Israel, you did have a second in there, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. And that motion 00:05:48.915 --> 00:05:54.782 - is carried. So those are the only two items on the 00:05:55.042 --> 00:06:04.695 - Agenda for this evening. So, um, well, is there any public comment? You post these, but yeah, there 00:06:04.695 --> 00:06:14.444 - is not anyone else present online other than cats. So no comment online. Okay. All right. Well, then 00:06:14.444 --> 00:06:23.614 - with that, I will adjourn this special meeting of the Bloomington Board of Park commissioners. 00:06:23.714 --> 00:06:30.068 - From there, we're going to enter into a work session. So, Israel, you're certainly welcome to stay on 00:06:30.068 --> 00:06:36.298 - as long as you're able. I know you don't have the whole time. The purpose of the work session is to 00:06:36.298 --> 00:06:42.652 - get information from our consultant, Jamie Sabak, about the Matthew Plan process, where we're at with 00:06:42.652 --> 00:06:49.069 - that, and to allow you to ask some questions about the process and take the time you need. Yeah, I can 00:06:49.069 --> 00:06:53.118 - stay at least 20 minutes. Are we going to start now? What's six? 00:06:54.402 --> 00:07:04.708 - Uh, we will, we will start now. Okay. Yeah. So I can stay for thank you. Do you want to officially kick 00:07:04.708 --> 00:07:14.717 - off the, okay. Well, um, I mean, do we need to call to order as someone obsession or. I think you're 00:07:14.717 --> 00:07:19.870 - saying, yeah, sure. Okay. So we're, um, yeah. Okay. 00:07:20.130 --> 00:07:26.522 - So yeah, I'll call to order this work session for the Bloomington Board of Park Commissioners so we 00:07:26.522 --> 00:07:32.978 - can hear an update on the master plan. And we have two members here in person and Israel for a while 00:07:32.978 --> 00:07:39.625 - here virtually. And this is a follow-up from, when was our previous? April. April. April. April. April. 00:07:39.625 --> 00:07:46.337 - April. April. April. April. April. April. April. April. April. April. April. April. April. April. April. 00:07:46.337 --> 00:07:48.574 - April. April. April. April. April. 00:07:48.898 --> 00:07:58.338 - Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you. Tim, did you want to share anything on the comment? And I know you've got 00:07:58.338 --> 00:08:07.503 - the driving. I'm good. I'm going to try and pull up. You're ready for your presentation, right? I'm 00:08:07.503 --> 00:08:11.902 - just here to share. Just a few slides to guide. 00:08:23.586 --> 00:08:30.331 - Yeah, I'll just say we have had yesterday and today a really great master plan site visit with Jamie. 00:08:30.331 --> 00:08:37.208 - We've conducted a number of staff meetings on different topics, both with park staff and other relevant 00:08:37.208 --> 00:08:43.820 - city staff. We had one on inclusion, accessibility, talked about the city's transition plan. We had 00:08:43.820 --> 00:08:50.499 - one on climate change and sustainability to help Jamie understand the framework that we're operating 00:08:50.499 --> 00:08:53.342 - in for recommendations in the master plan. 00:08:53.506 --> 00:08:59.321 - for when we get to strategic planning on our main priorities in the master plan. Last night, we had 00:08:59.321 --> 00:09:05.077 - a public workshop at Switch Bank Park. It was a really great workshop that Civic Bank put together 00:09:05.077 --> 00:09:11.008 - interactive in a lot of ways. Unfortunately, not super well attended. However, we will have a virtual 00:09:11.008 --> 00:09:17.055 - link coming to basically attend the meeting virtually online, which I think is going to be really cool. 00:09:17.055 --> 00:09:18.974 - And we will be sharing that out. 00:09:19.138 --> 00:09:26.740 - no doubt we'll get some good engagement from that. It's just another touch point with the community. 00:09:26.740 --> 00:09:34.567 - We also today had a provider network luncheon. So we got our SVPs from about 50 different organizations 00:09:34.567 --> 00:09:42.620 - with representatives who came representing areas that, representing organizations rather that have similar 00:09:42.620 --> 00:09:46.910 - or overlapping services to the Parks and Rec Department. 00:09:47.298 --> 00:09:54.275 - Obviously that is a wide footprint for us, so we had organizations that are representing youth and adult 00:09:54.275 --> 00:10:00.921 - sports, representing arts, venues, music, concerts, representing youth programs, representing youth 00:10:00.921 --> 00:10:07.566 - camps, and a lot of everything in between. Visit Bloomington, the library, the school district, and 00:10:07.566 --> 00:10:14.942 - basically it was presented as an opportunity to talk about service provision to our community, especially in a 00:10:15.618 --> 00:10:22.106 - time that's gonna have some challenges coming up for all of us. How do we overlap? How do we close some 00:10:22.106 --> 00:10:28.532 - gaps? How do we eliminate some overlaps, work together, be smart with partnerships? And it was a very, 00:10:28.532 --> 00:10:34.771 - very positive event for the 50 or so people who were there. We saw a lot of connections being made, 00:10:34.771 --> 00:10:41.758 - a lot of positivity, and just even unlikely partners made that people who might not have otherwise intersected. 00:10:42.050 --> 00:10:48.983 - having really great conversations about how we all collectively serve our community. So that was really 00:10:48.983 --> 00:10:55.716 - well received. And then lastly, we also did some financial work, both with our advisory team earlier 00:10:55.716 --> 00:11:02.449 - today, revealing some of the work that's been done so far that will come to Parkport eventually. And 00:11:02.449 --> 00:11:09.115 - then also with all of our staff, about 20 of them this afternoon had a session on how to do service 00:11:09.115 --> 00:11:09.982 - analysis for 00:11:10.146 --> 00:11:16.254 - fiscal results. So that is what we've been up to the last two days. I hope that wasn't stealing the 00:11:16.254 --> 00:11:22.423 - thunder that you were going to talk about. I was about to say what he said. That's where we've been. 00:11:22.423 --> 00:11:28.898 - Thanks Dan. If you wouldn't mind on the next slide. So first of all thank you for some time this evening. 00:11:28.898 --> 00:11:35.251 - We'll keep it brief because obviously most importantly it's an opportunity for you to ask any questions 00:11:35.251 --> 00:11:37.694 - of me that you may have. This is just a 00:11:38.274 --> 00:11:44.354 - kind of a refresh of how we approach master planning, particularly for public parking rec systems at 00:11:44.354 --> 00:11:50.614 - the municipal level. And obviously there's a pretty significant commitment and engagement. And we think 00:11:50.614 --> 00:11:56.694 - about that not only in terms of internal engagement or professional staff with going into an elected 00:11:56.694 --> 00:12:02.654 - officialist, but also trying to hear from a variety of different representative community members. 00:12:02.978 --> 00:12:08.446 - that really, as we think about it as a foundation from which you build a plan, a significant number 00:12:08.446 --> 00:12:13.968 - of analyses touch on some assessment. Tim mentioned some just in the last few days and I'll get into 00:12:13.968 --> 00:12:19.599 - some of the finer points of that in a moment. And of course, the intention is based upon what we hear, 00:12:19.599 --> 00:12:25.122 - what we learn, what we observe that allows us an informed plan for the organization. So just a quick 00:12:25.122 --> 00:12:27.582 - visual of kind of how it all comes together. 00:12:29.410 --> 00:12:34.800 - We are still on task. We actually started this process with a touch point with the project team back 00:12:34.800 --> 00:12:40.243 - in February, and we still believe we are going to be on task to complete this in that 12-month window 00:12:40.243 --> 00:12:45.580 - which we had hoped. And what can always be a challenge with these, particularly when they bridge at 00:12:45.580 --> 00:12:51.076 - the end of the year, are the holidays. So you can imagine we don't get a lot done between Thanksgiving 00:12:51.076 --> 00:12:56.466 - and the beginning of the year. And so I believe that we're going to be able to have a deliverable to 00:12:56.466 --> 00:12:58.334 - the organization in February 2026. 00:12:59.778 --> 00:13:06.854 - Real quick process tasks update, and again, really intention here to answer any questions that you may 00:13:06.854 --> 00:13:14.067 - have. We broke this process into phases. You know, it's more digestible, I think, in terms of, you know, 00:13:14.067 --> 00:13:21.142 - just staff understanding, and obviously from an organization coordination perspective. The first phase 00:13:21.142 --> 00:13:27.806 - that we worked on included the two tasks you see there. The full conditions assessment of Brian, 00:13:27.906 --> 00:13:33.736 - Our pool and most of all is complete. We have a summary report with a significant amount of data that 00:13:33.736 --> 00:13:39.738 - will inform some of the recommendations of the plan. And while we started financial sustainability quite 00:13:39.738 --> 00:13:45.568 - a few months ago, as Tim mentioned, we actually had to reveal this morning. So we got to see the data 00:13:45.568 --> 00:13:47.454 - that resulted from the analysis. 00:13:47.970 --> 00:13:53.130 - What that very simply does is it informs the organization in terms of what it costs to do business, 00:13:53.130 --> 00:13:58.033 - what it was a cost to provide the variety of services that are provided by women to correction 00:13:58.033 --> 00:14:03.400 - and recreation. Right now, the ball is in the staff's court because they've been provided with the data 00:14:03.400 --> 00:14:08.560 - as well as some, I'll call it homework, guiding principles around setting goals so that they're not 00:14:08.560 --> 00:14:13.566 - arbitrarily set. It's a very informed process. So we're anticipating probably in the next two to 00:14:13.826 --> 00:14:20.069 - three weeks, they'll have goals, and that will then allow us to see a draft that we invite you to assist 00:14:20.069 --> 00:14:26.134 - in. Next slide, please. Phase two, really, as you can imagine, this isn't a linear process, but phase 00:14:26.134 --> 00:14:32.377 - two really started in April. We had an opportunity to have immersive conversations with staff, of course 00:14:32.377 --> 00:14:38.858 - had some opportunity to visit with you and have the planning questions around what we thought the strengths, 00:14:38.858 --> 00:14:41.534 - weaknesses, opportunities, and threats were. 00:14:41.698 --> 00:14:48.160 - I asked you some values based questions that we believe to be priorities of the organization's equitable 00:14:48.160 --> 00:14:54.499 - community engagement started at that time and actually continues, we are soon going to see the release 00:14:54.499 --> 00:14:55.422 - of the survey. 00:14:55.906 --> 00:15:02.497 - that will be received by, I will say the majority, hopefully all households in Bloomington. And the 00:15:02.497 --> 00:15:09.219 - intention there is to complete the circle, if you will, relative to engagement. We've had focus group 00:15:09.219 --> 00:15:15.810 - meetings. We've had very brief questionnaires, three question questionnaires. We actually got 1,100 00:15:15.810 --> 00:15:20.094 - responses, which I think is outstanding. We did not expect that. 00:15:20.354 --> 00:15:26.398 - the three-question questionnaire, which included what are the priorities in this community as you see 00:15:26.398 --> 00:15:32.442 - them as they relate to parks and recreation? How do you hear about park and recreation services? Some 00:15:32.442 --> 00:15:38.427 - baseline questions that helped inform the survey that's about to be released. We had, I think we had 00:15:38.427 --> 00:15:44.767 - seven focus groups. We had folks from the business community, from IU. We actually met with two incredibly 00:15:44.767 --> 00:15:48.382 - amazing, intelligent young women who were in their teams who 00:15:48.482 --> 00:15:55.012 - actually knocked my socks off in terms of how thoughtful they were about the future and tree canopy. 00:15:55.012 --> 00:16:02.059 - And I mean, it was just impressive to say the least. I knew that's what they had to be. It was so impressive 00:16:02.059 --> 00:16:08.590 - to listen to them speak. And it just was like this rumor of optimism in terms of who they're handing 00:16:08.590 --> 00:16:15.572 - things off to. So anyway, really try to be thoughtful about who was at the table. And we had an opportunity 00:16:15.572 --> 00:16:16.542 - to visit this. 00:16:16.674 --> 00:16:23.380 - Organizational analysis, analysis, I would suggest. Tim mentioned a few of the things we've been doing 00:16:23.380 --> 00:16:29.890 - in the more recent. This includes everything from, you know, what's the financial outlook look like 00:16:29.890 --> 00:16:36.466 - relative to what's happening with SEA 1? We had an opportunity with the administrative support staff 00:16:36.466 --> 00:16:40.958 - yesterday, everything from customer service point of contact policy, 00:16:41.058 --> 00:16:47.738 - We're looking at climate action plans and how that connects to parks and recreation operations. So it's 00:16:47.738 --> 00:16:54.290 - a pretty robust look inside of the organization. And then what obviously all of this intends to do is 00:16:54.290 --> 00:17:00.649 - inform organization of priorities. What will be the umbrella under which plan is built? And those, 00:17:00.649 --> 00:17:06.494 - of course, those priorities will inform the action of the plan. And then phase three, Tim? 00:17:09.506 --> 00:17:15.749 - This is where we'll move into strategic plan development. So we've captured, if you can imagine, gathered 00:17:15.749 --> 00:17:18.046 - all kinds of information and insights. 00:17:18.274 --> 00:17:23.033 - It informs the priorities, the priorities become the umbrella in which we build the strategic plan. 00:17:23.033 --> 00:17:27.792 - The strategic plan is the actionable part of the master plan. We'll be back mid-January. We haven't 00:17:27.792 --> 00:17:32.551 - determined the date yet, but that will be the work session that we conduct with all of the staff to 00:17:32.551 --> 00:17:37.357 - build upon the priorities. And very simply, what we do is we say, if these are the priorities of the 00:17:37.357 --> 00:17:42.211 - organization, what are the intended outcomes? And we work backwards from there then to determine what 00:17:42.211 --> 00:17:44.638 - actionable steps will get you to realize those up. 00:17:45.698 --> 00:17:51.288 - That all feeds into the final master plan draft, which will be delivered to the project team for review. 00:17:51.288 --> 00:17:56.613 - They'll go back and forth. And obviously the expectation is to present that to you for feedback and 00:17:56.613 --> 00:18:02.097 - then ultimately for adoption. So things are moving forward. Like I said, I feel like we're in a really 00:18:02.097 --> 00:18:07.474 - good place in terms of timeline. Staff have been incredible to work with. We've had some great touch 00:18:07.474 --> 00:18:12.958 - marks during this visit as we've had with every visit. So that's a high level overview of the process. 00:18:15.778 --> 00:18:22.387 - So I will just open the floor for any questions that we have with me. I know we were going to have a 00:18:22.387 --> 00:18:28.931 - three touch point this evening, but more importantly, just want to make sure any questions that you 00:18:28.931 --> 00:18:35.606 - might have are answered. And while we have board member Galera on the line. Yeah, I mean, I guess, is 00:18:35.606 --> 00:18:40.318 - there like the three questions? I mean, were there certain results that 00:18:40.738 --> 00:18:47.721 - really stood out to you and like how, what do you think we'll see then in that engagement survey? Yeah, 00:18:47.721 --> 00:18:54.435 - I put that in there as a placeholder, just to give you an idea. We shared these last evening. So we 00:18:54.435 --> 00:19:01.350 - had a 24 by 36 boards printed. This was one of our stations and it was just simply to inform those who 00:19:01.350 --> 00:19:07.326 - attended. Here's what we've heard thus far. This is what we heard to be 1,100 responses. 00:19:07.522 --> 00:19:13.168 - The first board on the left, the question was what activities do your members of your household do to 00:19:13.168 --> 00:19:18.870 - improve health and general well-being? You can see the runaway winner there is walking, which frankly, 00:19:18.870 --> 00:19:24.572 - that's the number one response in any system across the country that I've ever seen, is walking is the 00:19:24.572 --> 00:19:30.384 - number one activity. But then hiking, followed by all the others that we see there. The second question, 00:19:30.384 --> 00:19:36.197 - what should the department focus on, prioritize, in order to improve better health and well-being across 00:19:36.197 --> 00:19:37.470 - the greater community? 00:19:37.986 --> 00:19:44.191 - conservation of natural areas. Second, expanded and or connect to trails and paths, which obviously 00:19:44.191 --> 00:19:50.707 - the bridge to walking exists and then three, taking care of what you have. So that connects to, I think, 00:19:50.707 --> 00:19:57.037 - some of the motive and intent of this process is understanding and possibly doing business. How do we 00:19:57.037 --> 00:20:03.242 - take care of the existing system that we have? And then the third one was really just a question, a 00:20:03.242 --> 00:20:05.662 - curiosity around how do you hear about 00:20:05.986 --> 00:20:12.113 - services provided by the organization. How do you learn about Wilmington Parks and Recreation? And you 00:20:12.113 --> 00:20:18.240 - can see really no runaway winners here, but social media, email, and city website tends to be the more 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:24.307 - popular of common sources, followed by the guide. And then, of course, we had an other, which I would 00:20:24.307 --> 00:20:30.255 - honestly tell you, I'd have to look and see what the others were, but it was a pretty small segment 00:20:30.255 --> 00:20:31.326 - of the responses. 00:20:31.490 --> 00:20:37.953 - So these were among the things, again, focus routes, touch points with the staff, what we heard from 00:20:37.953 --> 00:20:44.480 - you that helped inform how we approach the questions in the survey that's about to be released to the 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:51.262 - greater community. It's very insightful. Yeah. Is that like, you said walking is always number one across 00:20:51.262 --> 00:20:53.630 - the other systems. What about the... 00:20:54.754 --> 00:21:02.022 - focus, those priorities, like conservation was the number one for us. Is that also common? No. That's 00:21:02.022 --> 00:21:09.433 - interesting. I worked in Boulder. Yes. Yeah. If it's, let's say, wheat in Illinois, probably not. Yeah. 00:21:09.433 --> 00:21:16.558 - Right. Or trying to think, just Nebraska, like Omaha, Nebraska, probably not. Yeah. Interesting. It 00:21:16.558 --> 00:21:24.254 - connects to the values of the community. Yeah. If you're a community that really embraces natural areas and 00:21:24.386 --> 00:21:29.546 - environment and open spaces, that is definitely going to be at the top of the list. I would tell you 00:21:29.546 --> 00:21:34.655 - if we did that tomorrow in Boulder, my guess would be absolutely yeah. Every year that I was there, 00:21:34.655 --> 00:21:39.917 - we would do satisfaction surveys, we would ask questions, and the Senate was always taking care of our 00:21:39.917 --> 00:21:45.128 - open space, our green spaces, our trails. So yeah, the values of the community drive and help them to 00:21:45.128 --> 00:21:46.814 - respond to the spending section. 00:21:47.394 --> 00:21:53.099 - And I'm sure, I guess I shouldn't say I'm sure, but I imagine you were overly surprised by anything 00:21:53.099 --> 00:21:58.860 - that you said in the end. And we always look for key things, like repeat messages, key things. Those 00:21:58.860 --> 00:22:04.793 - are the things that really drive how you think about, you know, the next step in the process, how we're 00:22:04.793 --> 00:22:10.612 - going to frame questions. You know, what do we take away from this? You know, I think, again, there's 00:22:10.612 --> 00:22:16.830 - a kind of an innate expectation in a community like Bloomington that you would see these kinds of responses. 00:22:20.450 --> 00:22:26.448 - But yeah, this was one of the stations that we had last evening. It was just more of a, hey, FYI, this 00:22:26.448 --> 00:22:32.446 - is what we've heard thus far through the process. I think people were really interested and intrigued. 00:22:32.446 --> 00:22:38.502 - We had some follow-up questions based upon this station alone. One of the other stations was a QR code. 00:22:38.502 --> 00:22:44.732 - And this, again, we have a virtual engagement room that will simulate last evening. It will be publicized, 00:22:44.732 --> 00:22:46.654 - promoted through Julie's office. 00:22:46.914 --> 00:22:52.985 - We're going to have some boards like these that are going to move around systems so people could click 00:22:52.985 --> 00:22:58.879 - on the QR code. And it simulates last evening. But one of the questions that was asked was, imagine 00:22:58.879 --> 00:23:04.832 - being a citizen in the year 2050. What would you tell the department today that it needs to hear? So 00:23:04.832 --> 00:23:10.902 - a little bit of provocation to get people to really think that while you're building the system in the 00:23:10.902 --> 00:23:16.030 - moment, you're leaving a legacy over the next 25 years of the decisions that you make. 00:23:16.322 --> 00:23:23.238 - We let folks know the survey was coming out. We had a little kind of, I don't want to call it a voting 00:23:23.238 --> 00:23:30.154 - station, but we had ping pong balls and buckets and we asked people to pick two and their choices were 00:23:30.154 --> 00:23:33.310 - more services and more services to the system. 00:23:33.890 --> 00:23:39.343 - maintain high levels of service or stabilize our taxes and fees. You can only have two of those things, 00:23:39.343 --> 00:23:44.692 - which one would you choose? So people had a chance to respond to that. We had a department table, all 00:23:44.692 --> 00:23:49.936 - the staff were there to answer questions and have conversations with those. So while a small group, 00:23:49.936 --> 00:23:55.232 - a mighty group, and I think some really good discussion, and again, I'm really encouraged because of 00:23:55.232 --> 00:24:00.318 - the response we got for this, that we'll see the response to the virtual engagement opportunity. 00:24:00.802 --> 00:24:08.259 - unfortunate that yesterday was the only day it's framed. Yeah. Yeah. In like two and a half months. 00:24:08.259 --> 00:24:16.014 - Yeah, that's too bad. What did they, how many, how did the ping pong balls? It was pretty evenly split. 00:24:16.014 --> 00:24:20.414 - I will tell you, we do that with almost every master plan. 00:24:20.930 --> 00:24:26.103 - This was the first time that there weren't two runaway winners. Oh, really? What are the usual? Typically, 00:24:26.103 --> 00:24:30.938 - the runaway winners are Maintain High Levels of Service and Stabilize Our Tagger IDs. You had quite 00:24:30.938 --> 00:24:36.014 - a few people. However, I remember these two women in particular in the room going, we can pay for stuff. 00:24:36.014 --> 00:24:40.849 - And so they just said, we can afford to pay. So I think we had a pretty even split, but it was such 00:24:40.849 --> 00:24:45.877 - a small sample size. I want to be cautious, because once you see the virtual engagement room responses, 00:24:45.877 --> 00:24:49.310 - I think it'll give us a better sense of how beautiful that is for you. 00:24:49.538 --> 00:24:58.382 - how to fund parks foundation person in the realm. They're taught to the people who said they can pay. 00:24:58.382 --> 00:25:06.359 - How much? Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was really good. Again, it was a small group, but really 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:10.174 - good conversations. We have the bike, polo, 00:25:10.306 --> 00:25:16.209 - folks who are young men who really seem to understand the value of community and talking good and really 00:25:16.209 --> 00:25:21.887 - being thoughtful about things. So yeah, it was, I thought it was really good. And staff were, we had 00:25:21.887 --> 00:25:27.509 - a good group of staff on site to answer questions and engage. So it was a really good visit. And as 00:25:27.509 --> 00:25:33.131 - I mentioned, now we'll be doing a lot of work on the scenes to everything we're learning. We've got 00:25:33.131 --> 00:25:37.854 - our survey team that's about to release the survey. We'll collect that information. 00:25:38.242 --> 00:25:45.134 - We'll start crafting some of the narrative for the plan, get that to the team for review, and then we'll 00:25:45.134 --> 00:25:51.895 - be back in January for the strategic planning. So, we are like, with the staff, like, I remember I was 00:25:51.895 --> 00:25:58.721 - talking about, like, how we're going to have these service categories. Is that right? So, I guess, what 00:25:58.721 --> 00:26:03.710 - sort of, I guess, is all sort of being done simultaneously, but is it like, 00:26:04.034 --> 00:26:10.607 - They kind of already know what the service categories are or how does the survey and form. Yeah, and 00:26:10.607 --> 00:26:17.311 - what sort of order the stress categories are part of the financial sustainability. Right. So those are 00:26:17.311 --> 00:26:24.014 - complete. They've been complete. We've got a draft of the continuum of the strategy. And now we've got 00:26:24.014 --> 00:26:26.878 - to fill in the blanks with the goals. Yeah. 00:26:27.298 --> 00:26:33.527 - informed how the staff will approach the recommended goals for the categories. That doesn't necessarily 00:26:33.527 --> 00:26:39.696 - inform the survey in and of itself, but obviously the fiscal realities and conditions of the community 00:26:39.696 --> 00:26:45.865 - help us consider how we want to ask questions so that the community is as informed as they can be when 00:26:45.865 --> 00:26:51.854 - they are responding to the survey. So while it's not directly connected, there is some connectivity 00:26:51.854 --> 00:26:53.950 - between all of it. Ultimately that 00:26:54.658 --> 00:27:00.739 - you know, the financial sustainability piece will come before you in policy. And then we'll ask you 00:27:00.739 --> 00:27:07.307 - to approve a financial sustainability policy that sets some of those goals and new cost recovery categories 00:27:07.307 --> 00:27:13.388 - and all of those things. And of course it can be renewed, updated, changed through the board at the 00:27:13.388 --> 00:27:19.469 - future, but that will be a board approved doc. So that is where people seem to file. And we'll have 00:27:19.469 --> 00:27:23.422 - a comprehensive presentation of all those pieces of the process. 00:27:23.618 --> 00:27:34.854 - And we'll be giving Tim and the team draft language with a policy that certainly can be modified and 00:27:34.854 --> 00:27:46.313 - adjusted as necessary. Any other questions? I don't know, like, I wonder, are you guys, I'm so excited 00:27:46.313 --> 00:27:47.870 - about so far. 00:27:49.474 --> 00:27:56.967 - I really wanted to do the conditions assessment, even though that's not my message today. We need data, 00:27:56.967 --> 00:28:04.388 - we need data to help inform our decisions. So I'm thrilled to have a chunk of data and experts to help 00:28:04.388 --> 00:28:11.810 - us, what, four pages, 4,000 lines of expense reports that we sent to your financial person. So we have 00:28:11.810 --> 00:28:18.078 - a lot on our plates and we know that we're not setting prices, maybe how we should be. 00:28:18.690 --> 00:28:26.100 - that's maybe still helpful. And our staff look at this as an asset. Like we need help, we just don't 00:28:26.100 --> 00:28:33.437 - have time to do it. So now we need to hire consultants. So that's been very great. Today's provider 00:28:33.437 --> 00:28:41.214 - lunch, I was so excited to see the people. We communicate on the phone, email, but never had face-to-face 00:28:41.214 --> 00:28:47.230 - communication. But at the lunch time, we were like, ah, you were. That was great. 00:28:47.970 --> 00:28:55.138 - Yeah, internally we do numbers, data, everything else, but that was well balanced a couple of days because 00:28:55.138 --> 00:29:02.038 - we have to go out and meet people and not only looking at the data. Yeah. Yeah, I think that financial 00:29:02.038 --> 00:29:08.871 - sustainability, it's not really that much different than what we've done, but it's a different way of 00:29:08.871 --> 00:29:13.694 - looking at it. And I think that mind shift is going to be really great. 00:29:14.210 --> 00:29:19.477 - Um, I think some people are all bought in and that's how their brain works and others will take some 00:29:19.477 --> 00:29:24.587 - time to make that switch, but it couldn't come at a more appropriate time when we're headed into, 00:29:24.587 --> 00:29:30.011 - you know, budget, uh, perhaps challenges and really thinking about what we're doing and why we're doing 00:29:30.011 --> 00:29:35.643 - it. And I think that's something that I've been talking to the rec staff about is just that intentionality. 00:29:35.643 --> 00:29:39.710 - It's like, what you're doing isn't wrong, even if it doesn't make money, but. 00:29:40.290 --> 00:29:46.426 - Are you thinking about it in the right line? And are we being intentional about it? Like, yes, we know 00:29:46.426 --> 00:29:52.563 - this one's not making as much, but we know this one is more. And I think what they're putting together 00:29:52.563 --> 00:29:58.580 - for us just gives that backbone to make those decisions in a more intentional way. And I think we've 00:29:58.580 --> 00:30:04.598 - been missing that intentionality. We've just been doing, we've just been doing, doing, doing that we 00:30:04.598 --> 00:30:07.934 - haven't had an opportunity to step back and look at it. 00:30:08.258 --> 00:30:14.490 - Um, from that intentional lens. Yeah. So I'm excited to be able to do that. Yeah. There's always something 00:30:14.490 --> 00:30:20.313 - coming down. You just have to like move on and like go to the next thing. We don't always have time 00:30:20.313 --> 00:30:26.195 - to like snap your fingers and pause time and say that, Oh, like, I just need like three days to dive 00:30:26.195 --> 00:30:32.077 - into the, it's never, yeah, that's never going to happen. So when we've been in like a more and more 00:30:32.077 --> 00:30:37.086 - and more, I mean, our community has like our land has our programming has and things. 00:30:37.250 --> 00:30:43.938 - Asked to do more or you've been doing more. And so now to like, one is what we've been doing appropriate. 00:30:43.938 --> 00:30:50.500 - And, you know, it's time to do that kind of like quality, maybe over quantity. Yeah. We haven't looked, 00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:57.125 - I mean, that hasn't really been a discussion in quite a while. It's resonated with everyone. I've talked 00:30:57.125 --> 00:31:02.046 - to the community today. Other people are like, yes, like that's what we need. 00:31:02.146 --> 00:31:08.072 - them set for their organizations as well. That's a good point too, because I feel like switchyard and 00:31:08.072 --> 00:31:13.997 - then there was the, I mean, not that it was a bad thing, but what went with the alley beautification? 00:31:13.997 --> 00:31:19.923 - There was something. The bicentennial bonds. The bicentennial bonds. The gateway. The gateways. Yeah, 00:31:19.923 --> 00:31:26.081 - there was the trees, the, yeah. And then hope well. And then hope well. Yeah, hope well. And then program 00:31:26.081 --> 00:31:31.774 - it all, run it all. Right. Exactly. Right. Yeah. It's been a lot under the last. It's like great. 00:31:32.066 --> 00:31:38.998 - Great problems to have, you know, you don't want to not do things. Yeah. But what's the best way to 00:31:38.998 --> 00:31:46.208 - write all of these things? Yeah. So again, we'll be back. We're looking at calendars right now, I think 00:31:46.208 --> 00:31:53.140 - in the second, third week of January, and we'll do the strategic planning session. We're also going 00:31:53.140 --> 00:31:56.606 - to be looking at the purpose of the organization. 00:31:57.346 --> 00:32:05.328 - of checking that mission and purpose and seeing if it remains relevant and what adjustments and updates 00:32:05.328 --> 00:32:13.234 - we can make based on dynamic social and environmental and economic conditions. Is it time to give that 00:32:13.234 --> 00:32:20.909 - a little bit of a new life? So yeah, and then after that we'll have a little bit. Is there any very 00:32:20.909 --> 00:32:23.902 - small preview of the pools assessment? 00:32:24.162 --> 00:32:31.808 - I can just tell you a little bit about it. They're in fabulous shape. Everything's good. But not so 00:32:31.808 --> 00:32:39.531 - bad. Don't quote me on these numbers because without it in front of me I'm forgetting and keto might 00:32:39.531 --> 00:32:47.177 - remember better than I do. What was the total between both of them that we found? That was 2.4. 2.4 00:32:47.177 --> 00:32:51.230 - was one of them. 2.4 was per million, which actually 00:32:52.194 --> 00:32:58.622 - surprised me as being a little bit low, but you have to remember too, that is to restore everything 00:32:58.622 --> 00:33:05.306 - to the condition that it is right now. That's not to make any improvements or anything. That's not only 00:33:05.306 --> 00:33:11.798 - improved, but the bus house and everything else. But again, that would mean restoring the bath house 00:33:11.798 --> 00:33:18.226 - to its current condition, which is not great to begin with necessarily. Wouldn't we spend that much 00:33:18.226 --> 00:33:20.990 - money on the bath house to restore it when 00:33:21.346 --> 00:33:28.471 - How much more would it be to thank you, Israel? Thank you. To make it better. And I would also suggest 00:33:28.471 --> 00:33:35.942 - that that's in today's song. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's changing rapidly, of course. And then Mills was another, 00:33:35.942 --> 00:33:42.859 - everyone was saying maybe two. Yeah. So it's a lot. How's the pool liner at Mills? Is it not as old 00:33:42.859 --> 00:33:49.776 - as, I know the Brian Parker one was replaced. Yeah, the Mills pool liner is much better shaped than 00:33:49.776 --> 00:33:50.814 - it used to be. 00:33:51.106 --> 00:33:59.546 - Yeah. The pool itself, the mechanical and everything else is much, much better shaped than Brian Burke. 00:33:59.546 --> 00:34:07.661 - That's right. It's much, much more accessible and used. Yeah. And bigger. Right. When was the mills 00:34:07.661 --> 00:34:15.370 - pool built? Sixty... Well, like fifty... Sixty-three? Sixty-three dollars. That's right. Brian 00:34:15.370 --> 00:34:20.158 - was fifty-seven. Sixty-three. Mills was maybe sixty-seven. 00:34:20.834 --> 00:34:30.835 - Within like 10 years after? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I had an opportunity to go to Terra Hall. They got 00:34:30.835 --> 00:34:41.332 - the food innovation project started and their spending 3.2 million to innovate their food is much smaller 00:34:41.332 --> 00:34:50.046 - than mix. When I visited, I was surprised to see. Where was that? Terra Hall. Oh, okay. 00:34:50.274 --> 00:34:57.355 - All the money that's there coming from the funding sources, the tax, no tax, that's coming from casino. 00:34:57.355 --> 00:35:04.504 - Casino money. That's the money goes in. I'm like, that's fine. Yeah. Funding sources like that. We asked 00:35:04.504 --> 00:35:11.653 - the controller if she could pay the casino, but she didn't say anything. She didn't really say she could 00:35:11.653 --> 00:35:18.462 - buy it. Yeah. Yeah. We need it. It's two people that have that kind of pay. Yeah. Always the money. 00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:35.084 - The bicycle polo group was like, if we raise money, can we donate it? She was like, who are you? They're 00:35:35.084 --> 00:35:46.192 - so awesome. This is really great when they've spoken at the meetings. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good group 00:35:46.192 --> 00:35:47.390 - of people. 00:35:48.610 --> 00:36:05.790 - more quietly. They're all trying to build community connections. So we're on the same side. Yeah. 00:36:06.594 --> 00:36:11.687 - Well, we appreciate, you know, just having a few minutes of your time to share the update, the links, 00:36:11.687 --> 00:36:16.830 - you know, an idea of where we are. This worked out really well, Dave, I'll put that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:36:16.830 --> 00:36:21.874 - perfect. Everyone, that project's going to get going and wanted to give you the update so this ended 00:36:21.874 --> 00:36:27.067 - up working out really well. I appreciate it. Is there a way to get on? Yeah. We'll do our next business 00:36:27.067 --> 00:36:32.060 - at our regular meeting on the 21st. Okay, yeah. Well, thanks for the update, John. Absolutely. Look 00:36:32.060 --> 00:36:33.758 - forward to seeing you both. Yeah.