WEBVTT 00:00:00.642 --> 00:00:10.016 - Okay, so it is 502 and I will call to order the March meeting of the Bloomington Board of Park Commissioners 00:00:10.016 --> 00:00:18.616 - and Kim, could you start us with the roll call, please? Kathleen Mills here. Ellen Rodkey here. Jim 00:00:18.616 --> 00:00:27.646 - with lunch here Israel Herrera Okay, so we do have all four members here today And a big crowd of people 00:00:27.646 --> 00:00:30.398 - who like to see the parks board 00:00:30.690 --> 00:00:40.143 - so we first we go into the Section B Public hearings and appearances. So Emily Boock will be up. Oh, 00:00:40.143 --> 00:00:49.690 - no, sorry. We didn't go to do a first up then is a the consent Agenda which we usually take these all 00:00:49.690 --> 00:00:59.518 - in one motion. So do we have someone wants to make a motion? Move to approve the consent calendar second 00:00:59.842 --> 00:01:12.080 - All right. And all those in favor. Aye. Aye. All right. That motion is carried. And then we will move 00:01:12.080 --> 00:01:23.358 - into section B and the Bravo award with Emily Boock here to present. She's on the other side. 00:01:44.194 --> 00:01:50.074 - Good evening everyone Emily book community relations coordinator and we would like to recommend is a 00:01:50.074 --> 00:01:55.954 - door Tory for the March Bravo award I would like to recognize is door with this award in recognition 00:01:55.954 --> 00:02:01.892 - of his volunteerism as Santa at our annual winter wonderland event Is a door has volunteered as Santa 00:02:01.892 --> 00:02:08.005 - at winter wonderland a joint event with the community and Family Resources Department for the past three 00:02:08.005 --> 00:02:10.974 - years His portrayal of Santa is a highlight of the 00:02:11.170 --> 00:02:16.508 - Event that resonates with kids and adults of all ages He has been a key player in creating holiday magic 00:02:16.508 --> 00:02:22.100 - and memories for countless families in the bandit community We are especially grateful for the representation 00:02:22.100 --> 00:02:27.387 - He gives the children as a black man for portraying Santa showing them that they belong in this beloved 00:02:27.387 --> 00:02:32.318 - holiday photo tradition We are very grateful for his volunteers. I'm in our community. Thank you 00:02:40.546 --> 00:02:49.497 - Thank you to Parks and Recreation City of Bloomington Community and Family Resource Department and So 00:02:49.497 --> 00:02:59.326 - all the Friends and family in the past that has support me. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much 00:03:11.682 --> 00:03:18.602 - our Section C Which is our other business So we have a number of contracts and agreements tonight And 00:03:18.602 --> 00:03:25.453 - I should say since it seems like we have quite a few people don't normally come to the meeting We do 00:03:25.453 --> 00:03:32.305 - always have public comment time Here at the end, so we'll try and be swift so you won't have to wait 00:03:32.305 --> 00:03:35.358 - too long if you wanted to make a comment and 00:03:36.130 --> 00:03:41.750 - So first up in c1 is the partnership with iu for the grand balloon concerts at switchyard main stage 00:03:41.750 --> 00:03:47.370 - leslie brinson Good evening, leslie brinson recreation division director i'm here today to recommend 00:03:47.370 --> 00:03:53.213 - the approval of a cooperative partnership agreement with indiana university indiana university for grand 00:03:53.213 --> 00:03:55.550 - balloon concert series at switchyard park 00:03:55.682 --> 00:04:01.658 - Bloomington Parks and Recreation Department will be managing contracts scheduling initial payments of 00:04:01.658 --> 00:04:07.516 - fencing portable restrooms and potential shade structures With reimburse reimbursement from Indiana 00:04:07.516 --> 00:04:13.785 - University. This is the first year of what we hope will be a multi-year partnership agreement with Indiana 00:04:13.785 --> 00:04:19.819 - University for this concert series the grand balloon concert series at Switchyard Park will host three 00:04:19.819 --> 00:04:25.150 - ticketed concerts June 20th July 18th and August 29th on the main stage at Switchyard Park 00:04:25.250 --> 00:04:31.303 - The University will be responsible for all organizational and event tasks including items associated 00:04:31.303 --> 00:04:37.417 - with the performances Ticketing and the general event area the Parks Department will manage contracts 00:04:37.417 --> 00:04:43.710 - associated with parking fencing portable restrooms Having all those costs associated be reimbursed by IU 00:04:43.842 --> 00:04:50.370 - We are also working with IU to invest in infrastructure improvements for the stage and lawn area right 00:04:50.370 --> 00:04:56.961 - now We're trying to focus on the shape and trade shade structure improvements But a final determination 00:04:56.961 --> 00:05:03.553 - of that project has not been completed in this agreement. IU has guaranteed a financial Commitment that 00:05:03.553 --> 00:05:09.891 - will go towards future work in the lawn But not knowing exactly that timeline we have built in just 00:05:09.891 --> 00:05:13.630 - a dollar amount as a hold for that financing right now and 00:05:13.858 --> 00:05:21.651 - programming we feel but fills a gap in our current concert series and Offerings in the park while also 00:05:21.651 --> 00:05:29.217 - supporting a larger economic development investment with the city of Bloomington. I do have IU here 00:05:29.217 --> 00:05:37.237 - and Comment Ali to answer some questions from IU side Thank you, I'll just say that the the grand balloon 00:05:37.237 --> 00:05:38.750 - was founded in 2018 00:05:38.850 --> 00:05:45.983 - The first Grand Flu was held in the parking lot of Upland Brewery And it has expanded every year since 00:05:45.983 --> 00:05:52.907 - if you were here last summer you saw it out on Kirkwood But we've outgrown that space as well. It's 00:05:52.907 --> 00:05:59.832 - always meant to be a Program that was dedicated to building up the arts and culture summer calendar 00:05:59.832 --> 00:06:06.965 - as well as creating experiential learning opportunities for students And then also boosting businesses 00:06:06.965 --> 00:06:07.934 - in the region 00:06:08.098 --> 00:06:14.582 - And so we're really excited to kind of I think this is sort of the apotheosis of our relationship with 00:06:14.582 --> 00:06:21.002 - the city moving into Switchyard Park Investing in the park investing in the region and really kind of 00:06:21.002 --> 00:06:27.360 - giving back to the community at large with the proceeds from the tickets that we're selling Happy to 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:29.374 - answer any questions, though Oh 00:06:29.762 --> 00:06:36.183 - I just wondered, I'm trying to remember from last year or year before, is this more the three separate 00:06:36.183 --> 00:06:42.730 - concerts? Is this more than you've had in the past? It's always been multi-venues, but over one weekend. 00:06:42.730 --> 00:06:49.276 - And we are stretching it out over three months. So a concert each month in June, July, and August, which 00:06:49.276 --> 00:06:54.014 - we hope will boost attention and attendance. OK. All right. Thanks. Thanks. 00:06:54.210 --> 00:07:01.004 - Four-year partnership was my question. Is it is this an initial year as a trial and then the partnership 00:07:01.004 --> 00:07:07.474 - will like renew or is this Because it says we hope will be a four-year partnership. I mean, I think 00:07:07.474 --> 00:07:14.332 - the intention is it for it to be long-term each year I think invest the investment part of it will change 00:07:14.332 --> 00:07:17.438 - or the infrastructure potential will change and 00:07:17.634 --> 00:07:25.152 - So that's why I said helpful But I do think our intention is for it to stay in the park and continue 00:07:25.152 --> 00:07:32.819 - to grow and the partnership might change a little bit again Kind of based on that infrastructure. Okay 00:07:32.819 --> 00:07:40.411 - concept makes sense. Thanks Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the partnership with IU for the grand 00:07:40.411 --> 00:07:46.366 - balloon concert at switchered main stage Second, okay, and all those in favor I 00:07:47.266 --> 00:07:54.168 - Motion is carried. Thank you Leslie and Ed And in c2 Rebecca Swift's first item is a contract with Monroe 00:07:54.168 --> 00:08:00.745 - LLC for construction of the power line trail It's right here folks Rebecca Swift operations director 00:08:00.745 --> 00:08:07.517 - here to recommend a contract with Monroe LLC for the construction of the new power line trail that will 00:08:07.517 --> 00:08:13.182 - be located in the Duke power line easement just across the street from Switchyard Park 00:08:13.474 --> 00:08:20.015 - I can go into the details of the project but really for the sake of this they were the lowest of five 00:08:20.015 --> 00:08:26.556 - bids received at a total of six hundred and thirty seven thousand seven hundred and seventy five This 00:08:26.556 --> 00:08:33.097 - will be paid out of the bicentennial bond and really looking forward to building this this summer All 00:08:33.097 --> 00:08:39.638 - right any happy answer any questions questions for Rebecca Make a motion to approve the contract with 00:08:39.638 --> 00:08:43.422 - Monroe LLC for construction of the power line trail second 00:08:44.098 --> 00:08:51.419 - All right, and all those in favor aye-aye All right motion is carried and then Rebecca has more items. 00:08:51.419 --> 00:08:59.095 - Yes, see three contract REA for construction inspection services for the power line trail. Yes Construction 00:08:59.095 --> 00:09:06.558 - but more the inspection part of this large project knowing that it involves a lot of different steps and 00:09:06.754 --> 00:09:12.773 - Inspection of the pouring before the gravel and the asphalt. We have glow rock going in a lot of things 00:09:12.773 --> 00:09:18.791 - to stay on top of so We're looking to hire REA to help support construction inspection services as well 00:09:18.791 --> 00:09:24.579 - as provide some on-the-ground technical services when needed We've worked with them in the past and 00:09:24.579 --> 00:09:30.540 - I'm really happy with the services they provided So really looking to recommend us hiring REA for some 00:09:30.540 --> 00:09:33.086 - construction services not to exceed 124,950 00:09:35.618 --> 00:09:45.967 - So that's kind of a top end of the price possibly correct not to exceed but hopefully they will not 00:09:45.967 --> 00:09:56.523 - use all those hours allocated to them, right? I'll make a motion to approve the contract with REA for 00:09:56.523 --> 00:10:02.526 - construction inspection services And all those in favor I 00:10:03.586 --> 00:10:10.509 - motion is carried for C3 and C4. Finally, Rebecca has the agreement with GTE MobileNet Verizon for Ops 00:10:10.509 --> 00:10:12.862 - Center cell tower lease extension. 00:10:13.922 --> 00:10:21.373 - That's a mouthful for the sake of it. We'll call it Verizon Wireless. We are extending the lease agreement 00:10:21.373 --> 00:10:28.546 - We do have a cell tower located at our ops center. And so we do generate some non-reverting froms from 00:10:28.546 --> 00:10:35.510 - that cell tower So this is just an extension. It was time to update the lease agreement for another 00:10:35.510 --> 00:10:43.518 - 15 years So ran this there are legal their attorneys and we were able to come up with this lease agreement Have we 00:10:43.650 --> 00:10:51.812 - determined What fair market value rental is for did we look at the rental amount or I? Have not looked 00:10:51.812 --> 00:10:54.110 - at the rental about no, okay 00:10:54.594 --> 00:10:59.774 - I'm just thinking with the 50, you know, but I don't know what the going I have no idea what the going 00:10:59.774 --> 00:11:05.106 - rate is for those But I just wondered if we'd consider that and re-upping the we don't set the the rental 00:11:05.106 --> 00:11:10.387 - rate So I don't know if we have control over that I know the only thing that we have we we have to agree 00:11:10.387 --> 00:11:15.466 - that we won't redevelop Relocate or sell the rental rights to anybody else, but I don't know that we 00:11:15.466 --> 00:11:20.596 - even get to dictate what that cost is that rate is I mean they're using our tower. Yeah, right, right 00:11:20.596 --> 00:11:23.262 - We look at it specifically this year re up the lease 00:11:23.394 --> 00:11:29.654 - We didn't look at it specifically this year, but we have in recent years and found it to be in line 00:11:29.654 --> 00:11:35.977 - acceptable To the point where we didn't feel like we needed to this was just sort of a formality and 00:11:35.977 --> 00:11:42.362 - there's a built-in escalator Year-over-year in it too. So we didn't feel the need to dive deeply into 00:11:42.362 --> 00:11:43.614 - that this time Okay 00:11:46.146 --> 00:11:55.949 - Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the agreement with Verizon for the cell tower lease extension second 00:11:55.949 --> 00:12:05.565 - Motion is carried. Thank you, Rebecca. Thank you. And then c5 Sean Marler has the agreement with green 00:12:05.565 --> 00:12:10.046 - dragon for 2026 switch yard mowing Good evening 00:12:10.210 --> 00:12:17.259 - Sean Marler recreation facilities general manager here to recommend for approval the 2026 switch our 00:12:17.259 --> 00:12:24.308 - park mowing contract to be awarded to Green Dragon Inc The total area to be mowed is a little larger 00:12:24.308 --> 00:12:28.286 - than in the past as we have changed over some space from 00:12:28.610 --> 00:12:36.985 - on natural landscaping to grass, and we've identified some other areas we'd like them to mow. The new 00:12:36.985 --> 00:12:45.605 - size is approximately 17.2 acres, which is an increase from the 15.6 previous acres. The per cycle quote 00:12:45.605 --> 00:12:53.980 - was $1,000.32, which comes out to $60 an acre. Typically during the year, we do about 26 to 30 cycles 00:12:53.980 --> 00:12:57.182 - starting sometime in April. Excuse me. 00:12:58.210 --> 00:13:06.411 - the not to exceed amount is $33,025. This year we did have a record number of bidders in the process. 00:13:06.411 --> 00:13:14.613 - Typically we only get two to three. This year we had six, of which Green Dragon was the lowest. Green 00:13:14.613 --> 00:13:22.814 - Dragon is also the company that has won the bid in the past. I'm happy to answer any other questions. 00:13:23.010 --> 00:13:29.774 - You said it sounds like maybe two acres switched over from a landscaping situation Is this just a better 00:13:29.774 --> 00:13:36.474 - use of that space or it was partly that and also partly there was an area to the south near the college 00:13:36.474 --> 00:13:42.981 - entrance That we are walnut entrance that typically in the past we hadn't been mowing and we decided 00:13:42.981 --> 00:13:49.616 - to start mowing Okay, it was a combination of those two and that space alone was it was about an acre, 00:13:49.616 --> 00:13:51.678 - right? Okay, and I just like to 00:13:51.874 --> 00:13:59.609 - That parks does some of its own mowing as well, but correct There are some small spots that we still 00:13:59.609 --> 00:14:07.344 - more ourselves because it's not Cost-effective to have green dragon do it and we'll also come in and 00:14:07.344 --> 00:14:13.854 - mow before a certain event Sure. Okay. All right any questions for Sean? No, I think 00:14:14.146 --> 00:14:21.644 - Cursory search of $60 an acre is a really competitive rate So it is like I said there were six bids 00:14:21.644 --> 00:14:29.442 - and the fact that we've had we've enjoyed having Green Dragon in the past The fact that they were still 00:14:29.442 --> 00:14:37.166 - the lowest bid I think says a lot about us getting a good price for good work. Yeah I'll make a motion 00:14:37.166 --> 00:14:43.614 - to approve the service agreement with Green Dragon for 2026 switch yard mowing second 00:14:44.290 --> 00:14:53.618 - And all those in favor I All right motion is carried and see five. Thank you Sean. Thank you And then 00:14:53.618 --> 00:15:03.038 - Haskell Smith has c6, which is the MOU with gray star for in lieu tree planting Good afternoon Haskell 00:15:03.038 --> 00:15:04.958 - Smith urban forester 00:15:06.274 --> 00:15:12.771 - This is a review and approval of a memorandum of understanding between Parks and Rec planning 00:15:12.771 --> 00:15:19.820 - and transportation and gray star development for off-site tree planting For the fell iron property in 00:15:19.820 --> 00:15:27.284 - which is the BIM currently BIM over there Staff recommends the approval of this memorandum of understanding 00:15:27.284 --> 00:15:30.878 - between all parties the fell iron property had some 00:15:31.714 --> 00:15:38.774 - UDO planning requirements, they couldn't quite meet with on-site planting and still developing the property 00:15:38.774 --> 00:15:45.441 - to its full potential. So they kind of pitched an idea of off-site planting, worked with them and the 00:15:45.441 --> 00:15:52.305 - planning department to kind of get to these numbers. Grey Star's been through some BZA meetings already. 00:15:52.305 --> 00:15:59.038 - This tree planting is conditional to their occupancy permit at the end of when it's all said and done. 00:15:59.586 --> 00:16:08.725 - I think out of the 143 trees About 40 of them are street trees and the rest have to contribute to closed 00:16:08.725 --> 00:16:17.864 - canopy So these will work in the areas that we're trying to restore to forest Butler Park being probably 00:16:17.864 --> 00:16:27.178 - the closest one to that happy to answer any questions That I can Okay. All right any questions for Haskell 00:16:27.178 --> 00:16:28.222 - about this? 00:16:29.186 --> 00:16:49.383 - No, I think that's not This is tree planning well the first tree planning, but yeah, you're talking 00:16:49.383 --> 00:16:58.270 - about the second Yeah Yes coming up so Okay 00:16:58.882 --> 00:17:07.749 - Make a motion to approve the MOU with gray star for in lieu tree planting second Okay, and all those 00:17:07.749 --> 00:17:17.319 - in favor. I I See seven motion is carried and then Okay, then on to the next one Haskell has the partnership 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:26.186 - with canopy Bloomington for 2026 youth tree tenders program Yes, this is a continuation of our youth 00:17:26.186 --> 00:17:28.030 - tree tenders program 00:17:28.546 --> 00:17:35.372 - Again, it's paid from funds from the economic and sustainability department not to exceed $13,000. This 00:17:35.372 --> 00:17:41.936 - partnership hires about 10 high school students throughout the season. They work, I think, 40 to 60 00:17:41.936 --> 00:17:48.829 - hours over their summer working on trees, mulching, pruning, watering, root ground excavation, all those 00:17:48.829 --> 00:17:55.655 - things from either high school, any high school. Canopy Bloomington handles all the outreach and hiring 00:17:55.655 --> 00:17:56.574 - and all that. 00:17:56.994 --> 00:18:04.856 - Good stuff at some point. I usually come in and do some sort of educational aspect to it but I think 00:18:04.856 --> 00:18:12.796 - this is our Fifth fourth year fifth year something like that, but we've all told they're over Six six 00:18:12.796 --> 00:18:20.813 - hundred trees that have been worked on I think just in the last few years Okay, and you you don't have 00:18:20.813 --> 00:18:22.526 - any trouble getting a 00:18:23.234 --> 00:18:29.477 - Students to participate in the program the first year was a little rocky But it seems like it's been 00:18:29.477 --> 00:18:35.968 - pretty consistent four or five application or the you know, they're student-based. I Ava's not mentioned 00:18:35.968 --> 00:18:42.582 - any struggles. Okay. All right. Great. Yeah I guess is canopy take care of kind of the student recruitment 00:18:42.582 --> 00:18:48.826 - and all of that and then you just have to show up to provide the training and yeah, I mean basically 00:18:48.826 --> 00:18:51.422 - canopy Bloomington handles everything and 00:18:51.714 --> 00:19:00.054 - Yeah, start to finish on the work. I tell them what trees to work on And kind of check up to make sure 00:19:00.054 --> 00:19:08.394 - they're doing all the good right things, but canopy pretty well handled I Make a motion to approve the 00:19:08.394 --> 00:19:16.572 - partnership with canopy Bloomington for 2026 youth tree tent tree tenders Second okay, and all those 00:19:16.572 --> 00:19:20.702 - in favor. I I All right motion is carried and then 00:19:21.090 --> 00:19:28.510 - Tree season Haskell has a few more items see a 2026 first quarter urban forestry risk report Yes, there's 00:19:28.510 --> 00:19:35.510 - a lot of dead trees in that risk report. Yeah. Yeah, that's not even all of them Those are the ones 00:19:35.510 --> 00:19:42.790 - we're gonna try to focus on So yeah Haskell Smith urban forestry. This is the first quarter risk report 00:19:42.790 --> 00:19:49.790 - for 2026 I Added some tables from last year kind of tried to spruce it up a little bit I won't spin 00:19:49.922 --> 00:19:57.671 - much time Going over anything in here But currently we're working on tree grades right now with seven 00:19:57.671 --> 00:20:05.572 - new great installations I think we've got six of those and already and then the 49 sites we are looking 00:20:05.572 --> 00:20:13.245 - at Working through as many as those as we can currently Okay, and I noticed that even though there's 00:20:13.245 --> 00:20:19.550 - a lot of dead trees on the list Most of them are not listed as a sort of immediate 00:20:19.714 --> 00:20:27.304 - Hazard is that I assume that just where they're located if they were to collapse. They're not gonna 00:20:27.304 --> 00:20:35.274 - Yeah, so generally the risk reading has a few things built into the matrix likelihood to fail likelihood 00:20:35.274 --> 00:20:42.865 - of contact with the target and then consequence so it may be that it could fall but it's gonna fall 00:20:42.865 --> 00:20:48.254 - on Nothing that matters, you know field right? So yeah, I kind of Okay 00:20:50.658 --> 00:20:57.843 - Any other questions for Haskell? Well, I guess so does that that mean those trees are in Low-risk category 00:20:57.843 --> 00:21:04.826 - or are they higher risk for falling? But we're not as we're not as concerned about is that am I looking 00:21:04.826 --> 00:21:12.011 - at the right one? I see I didn't put the risk ratings on here. Actually, I believe oh, yeah. Yeah, they're 00:21:12.011 --> 00:21:18.994 - like moderate. Yeah We're out of high-risk trees. Yeah as according to treekeepers so now we're getting 00:21:18.994 --> 00:21:20.606 - into the moderate and I 00:21:20.930 --> 00:21:29.351 - Figure the dead ones are the ones we should start with. Yeah Yeah Well keeping track of 24,000 trees 00:21:29.351 --> 00:21:38.355 - is pretty impressive If it wasn't for the software, I wouldn't know where to begin Okay Any other questions 00:21:38.355 --> 00:21:46.775 - for Haskell Do we need to approve this is that do we take okay? So I make a motion to approve the q1 00:21:46.775 --> 00:21:50.110 - tree risk and reporting document second 00:21:51.042 --> 00:21:58.976 - Okay, and all those in favor I All right motion is carried and then c9 Finally for Haskell's the agreement 00:21:58.976 --> 00:22:06.392 - with bluestone for storm resiliency pruning phase two Yeah stack recommends the review and approval 00:22:06.392 --> 00:22:14.178 - of the phase two the storm resilience pruning project. This is with bluestone tree LLC again It is grant 00:22:14.178 --> 00:22:20.926 - funded from an IRA grant that was passed through to American forests not to exceed $25,000 00:22:22.370 --> 00:22:28.461 - Basically, this is going around high priority streets and reducing risk hazard reduction pruning or 00:22:28.461 --> 00:22:34.613 - if a tree isn't good enough health will put a cable in it or if it's got a bunch of dead branches on 00:22:34.613 --> 00:22:40.704 - it will deadwood it and that's Pretty much the short and skinny of it. The first phase pruned about 00:22:40.704 --> 00:22:46.917 - 25 trees, which is much less than I anticipated But there was some nasty stuff that got taken care of 00:22:46.917 --> 00:22:52.094 - and then looking at this one I'm kind of figuring it's going to be around in that 25 00:22:52.226 --> 00:23:00.994 - to 30 trees again Okay All right. Well, that's certainly a good proactive thing to do especially since 00:23:00.994 --> 00:23:09.677 - we have more and more storms seems like these days. Yeah Okay, all right, and this is a federal grant 00:23:09.677 --> 00:23:18.275 - any questions for Haskell Make a motion to approve phase two of the storm resilience pruning project 00:23:18.275 --> 00:23:20.318 - with bluestone tree and 00:23:21.794 --> 00:23:28.491 - Okay, and all those in favor All right motion is carried. Thanks Haskell. Thank you. And then in c10 00:23:28.491 --> 00:23:35.253 - Julie Ramey has the adopt a roundabout sponsorship agreement template. Good afternoon I'm Julie Ramey 00:23:35.253 --> 00:23:41.950 - the community relations manager for the Parks and Recreation Department and the document for which I 00:23:41.950 --> 00:23:48.713 - am seeking your approval today is a little bit different than some of the other Things that you would 00:23:48.713 --> 00:23:51.166 - typically look at this is a template 00:23:51.330 --> 00:23:59.677 - a sponsorship agreement for the newly resurrected adopt a roundabout program Parks and Recreation is 00:23:59.677 --> 00:24:08.107 - responsible for the overall maintenance and landscaping in three different roundabouts and the Public 00:24:08.107 --> 00:24:15.710 - Works Department is responsible for maintenance of a fourth roundabout so Joanna Sparks and 00:24:15.810 --> 00:24:23.673 - with our department, our urban green space coordinator, and Cassie Wernie from the Department of Public 00:24:23.673 --> 00:24:31.838 - Works, and I and Rebecca Swift put our heads together to come up with a program that would help financially 00:24:31.838 --> 00:24:39.550 - support contractually managing vegetation and the overall upkeep of these four different roundabouts. 00:24:39.714 --> 00:24:47.635 - So the template agreement that I seek your approval for today outlines the details of What will be a 00:24:47.635 --> 00:24:56.263 - sponsorship agreement that hopefully we will be able to sign with businesses who are interested in sponsoring 00:24:56.263 --> 00:24:58.302 - a roundabout so like most 00:24:58.722 --> 00:25:04.968 - Agreements of this sort it is the recognition that sponsor businesses are seeking not only do they want 00:25:04.968 --> 00:25:11.093 - to help beautify Bloomington's gateways and entry points and Areas of our city where there's a lot of 00:25:11.093 --> 00:25:16.318 - traffic, but they also like to see their name out and get recognition for that support 00:25:16.898 --> 00:25:24.301 - So the sponsorship agreement outlines the details of what a sponsor will receive as a roundabout sponsor. 00:25:24.301 --> 00:25:31.354 - It's dependent on the number of entry points to a roundabout. There are either three or four entries 00:25:31.354 --> 00:25:38.478 - into each roundabout and the pricing is based on the number of signs that a sponsor will receive when 00:25:38.478 --> 00:25:45.182 - they sign on to adopt a roundabout. They can adopt one entry or all four and get the associated 00:25:45.474 --> 00:25:51.747 - number of signs. So there's a lot of moving parts. Not only does the Board of Public Works need to also 00:25:51.747 --> 00:25:58.141 - review and approve this sponsorship agreement, partnership agreement, but we're also working with traffic 00:25:58.141 --> 00:26:04.172 - and engineering to ensure the correct placement of signage within the roundabout itself, within the 00:26:04.172 --> 00:26:10.385 - rights of way, and the funding for the program will go directly to, for the roundabouts that Parks and 00:26:10.385 --> 00:26:14.366 - Recreation manages, it will go directly to our urban green space. 00:26:14.562 --> 00:26:23.003 - So that they can use the funding to contractually assist with the management and upkeep of our roundabouts 00:26:23.003 --> 00:26:31.128 - If anyone is interested in the tap the tap Rogers roundabout that was the one that's managed by Public 00:26:31.128 --> 00:26:39.806 - works and that funding will go to public works to help them manage the vegetation in that roundabout Okay and 00:26:40.514 --> 00:26:48.008 - Am I right? I remember some sponsorship before but then we sort of paused for a while or Where's that? 00:26:48.008 --> 00:26:55.284 - The we have resurrected the adopt a roundabout Okay program the program that we had in place wasn't 00:26:55.284 --> 00:27:02.705 - working the way we had hoped that program had a basically had volunteers and landscaping companies to 00:27:02.705 --> 00:27:07.070 - agree to maintain a roundabout for a set period of time and 00:27:07.586 --> 00:27:14.572 - while intentions were good when a company is in business and they're working and they have a Kind of 00:27:14.572 --> 00:27:21.558 - a freebie out there. It didn't tend to be the highest of priorities and Without any real skin in the 00:27:21.558 --> 00:27:28.475 - game. It wasn't working the way that we had hoped So we scrapped the original program that took the 00:27:28.475 --> 00:27:34.078 - best parts of it and built this formal partnership or sponsorship agreement Okay 00:27:34.178 --> 00:27:40.404 - Thank you. Yeah, I was just trying to remember from before I remember less coin had some feelings about 00:27:40.404 --> 00:27:46.391 - some of the Roundabouts that he didn't feel were kept up as much as they should have before so it's 00:27:46.391 --> 00:27:52.437 - noteworthy that anyone who chooses to be an adopt a roundabout sponsor has no other Responsibilities 00:27:52.437 --> 00:27:58.484 - to the roundabout other than writing a check so they do not go to the roundabout to pick up trash or 00:27:58.484 --> 00:28:01.118 - pull weeds there's no physical presence and 00:28:01.442 --> 00:28:08.514 - They just get their sign and we use the funding to beautify the roundabout Okay. All right Thank you. 00:28:08.514 --> 00:28:15.725 - Any any questions for Julie? I was just curious about the sign. I think as I read it this the city will 00:28:15.725 --> 00:28:22.659 - actually Create the signage and install it. So this is Like night. Is there any description you can 00:28:22.659 --> 00:28:27.166 - provide of the signage? I assume it's not just like yard sign. I 00:28:27.362 --> 00:28:35.709 - It is not we have a maximum size for the sign based on the sign ordinance of the city and then working 00:28:35.709 --> 00:28:43.813 - on the details of the actual sign size and height with the traffic and engineering folks again line 00:28:43.813 --> 00:28:51.916 - of sight and traffic in a roundabout so we haven't landed on Exactly what it's gonna look like yet. 00:28:51.916 --> 00:28:55.806 - So Not not just white text on a blue background 00:28:55.906 --> 00:29:05.910 - My vision is a stylistic roundabout with a logo This roundabout adopted by and a company name so simple 00:29:05.910 --> 00:29:16.492 - as you're driving by it's not too distracting But still gives our sponsors recognition Besides the roundabout 00:29:16.492 --> 00:29:25.342 - are there other sponsorship back options similar to this I like it baseball fields or Other 00:29:25.922 --> 00:29:34.366 - Parks Facilities we have advertising opportunities at Winslow Sports Complex. There are signage banners 00:29:34.366 --> 00:29:42.485 - advertising at Twin Lakes Recreation Center But beyond or and also at the Frank Southern ice arena, 00:29:42.485 --> 00:29:50.604 - we sell banners and advertising there So it's similar to their our advertising programs, but we are 00:29:50.604 --> 00:29:54.014 - actually asking for an adopt around about 00:29:55.170 --> 00:30:09.565 - shoo-horning it into our other adoptive programs and it's sort of a Combination I guess of advertising 00:30:09.565 --> 00:30:20.606 - and adoption A company can sponsor every single roundabout if they want to and 00:30:21.218 --> 00:30:28.008 - And it's not exclusive. So if a roundabout has four entry points, the Sarah Rogers roundabout is a good 00:30:28.008 --> 00:30:34.799 - example. There's four entries and exit points to that roundabout. If one company wants to buy all four, 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:41.328 - there's a price point for that. And those price points are part of the partnership agreement or the 00:30:41.328 --> 00:30:48.510 - sponsorship agreement. If they only want one sign, then they get one entry. They get their sign in one place. 00:30:48.802 --> 00:30:57.238 - But there's no exclusivity unless the company wants to buy all of them or all four entry points It could 00:30:57.238 --> 00:31:05.512 - be for they couldn't company could sponsor the entire roundabout if they wished if they wish and I see 00:31:05.512 --> 00:31:13.787 - that well, there are some companies that are restricted but It doesn't see doesn't show anything about 00:31:13.787 --> 00:31:18.206 - educational ones. So any University or any educational 00:31:19.010 --> 00:31:27.542 - a organization can sponsor the roundabout. The agreement does, the template outlines the types of businesses 00:31:27.542 --> 00:31:35.370 - that we do and do not permit to be a part of the program. So political advertising, for example, we 00:31:35.370 --> 00:31:43.511 - wouldn't take a political ad for a sponsor for the roundabout. Companies that make a certain percentage 00:31:43.511 --> 00:31:48.990 - of their income from alcohol or tobacco sales, those kinds of things. 00:31:49.570 --> 00:31:57.273 - Restrictions are outlined in the agreement And remind me the signage would be something that would come 00:31:57.273 --> 00:32:04.753 - or approved by the Department or the organization can come up with the design and you approve it All 00:32:04.753 --> 00:32:12.308 - of these signs will be designed and fabricated by parks and recreation so we'll work with the Adopter 00:32:12.308 --> 00:32:18.974 - on their logos and the way that they want their company name to appear but we will take a 00:32:19.202 --> 00:32:27.168 - We'll take all of the responsibility for producing the sign and getting it installed and For the renewal 00:32:27.168 --> 00:32:34.982 - the max time would be one year and then revision of the of the Interest of the company to continue but 00:32:34.982 --> 00:32:42.720 - that would be only limited to one year for the current template is for a year does does indicate that 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:48.030 - it is for one year they get the first right of refusal for future and 00:32:48.546 --> 00:32:56.073 - requests or to keep their sign in a roundabout and we we couldn't we will look at the success of that 00:32:56.073 --> 00:33:04.117 - and how how the year of Exposure goes we're hoping that as more traffic goes in and out of those roundabouts 00:33:04.117 --> 00:33:11.571 - They'll see signs and it'll promote itself and ideally we'll have people standing in line wanting to 00:33:11.571 --> 00:33:13.342 - adopt a roundabout Okay 00:33:14.946 --> 00:33:23.002 - All right. Thanks Julie. I'll make a motion to approve the adopter roundabout sponsorship agreement 00:33:23.002 --> 00:33:31.218 - template and Second, okay. All those in favor. I All right motion is carried. Thank you, Julie and In 00:33:31.218 --> 00:33:39.274 - c11 we have the agreement with the Bloomington pickleball club for 2026 mark sterner Good afternoon 00:33:39.274 --> 00:33:44.510 - mark sterner general manager of the Twin Lakes Recreation Center 00:33:44.738 --> 00:33:51.611 - Today I have the approval of the partnership with the Bloomington Pickleball Club. The Bloomington Pickleball 00:33:51.611 --> 00:33:58.110 - Club, established in October of 2022, operates with the mission to promote recreational and competitive 00:33:58.110 --> 00:34:04.545 - play while creating a positive and inclusive experience for all. As a part of its partnership with the 00:34:04.545 --> 00:34:10.794 - city, BPC has granted exclusive use of the RCA Park Pickleball courts from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Tuesday 00:34:10.794 --> 00:34:13.918 - and Thursday evenings from April through October. 00:34:14.018 --> 00:34:22.567 - This two-hour time period supports organized play events and tournaments for both adults and youth Helping 00:34:22.567 --> 00:34:31.195 - to further introduce the sport to the Bloomington community the only modifications to this year's agreement 00:34:31.195 --> 00:34:39.424 - are is the usage fee which goes from five dollars per core per hour to 750 per core per hour and staff 00:34:39.424 --> 00:34:41.022 - recommends approval 00:34:42.306 --> 00:34:51.190 - All right, I'll make a motion to approve the partnership with Bloomington public pickleball club Okay, 00:34:51.190 --> 00:35:00.073 - all those in favor All right. Thank you. Yep. Thanks mark and C12 is that's the time of year for price 00:35:00.073 --> 00:35:08.698 - schedule updates with various staff members can tell us about updates for Twin Lakes Frank Southern 00:35:08.698 --> 00:35:10.078 - Center aquatics 00:35:10.754 --> 00:35:16.672 - You're gonna take this one Tim Street parks director I will go ahead and give the overview and then 00:35:16.672 --> 00:35:22.946 - we can have staff available for questions on any of these since this is a multi staff effort We recommend 00:35:22.946 --> 00:35:28.864 - approval of a certain amount of fee changes as indicated in the table on the staff report These are 00:35:28.864 --> 00:35:34.782 - just periodic updates for the most part and I will just kind of go through a high-level overview of 00:35:34.978 --> 00:35:40.622 - Broadstrokes of it and then we can have staff come up for any specific questions in the ops division 00:35:40.622 --> 00:35:46.379 - There's an update to a range of prices for memorial trees and benches just based on material costs And 00:35:46.379 --> 00:35:52.023 - particularly the benches what they are costing now materials are going up In farmers market. There's 00:35:52.023 --> 00:35:57.723 - a number of fees that have been removed because there was a grandfather clause as you can see in sort 00:35:57.723 --> 00:36:03.423 - of the footnote at the bottom of the table there that they are now Timing out I guess is the term I'm 00:36:03.423 --> 00:36:04.094 - looking for 00:36:04.386 --> 00:36:12.860 - As well as an adjustment for the amount of farmers markets there are this year There's one additional 00:36:12.860 --> 00:36:21.749 - one based on how the calendar falls. So we have one extra Saturday this year Sports division just removing 00:36:21.749 --> 00:36:24.158 - a fee that is not being used 00:36:24.354 --> 00:36:30.326 - And then, under our sports division as well, which would be Chris Hamrick on any of these items for 00:36:30.326 --> 00:36:36.537 - Frank Southern or for aquatics, there's a number of fee updates. Chris is doing a number of fee updates 00:36:36.537 --> 00:36:42.867 - as he looks at the cost of things and cost recovery at the ice arena, and particularly some of the summer 00:36:42.867 --> 00:36:48.839 - usage that we piloted a bit last year that has gone well and we want to continue just continuing to 00:36:48.839 --> 00:36:52.542 - find ways to generate revenue there to support the operation. 00:36:52.706 --> 00:36:59.463 - And then a few aquatics fees No change to the main aquatics fees, you know the admission we talked about 00:36:59.463 --> 00:37:05.962 - that a lot last year That is remaining consistent for this year. And of course Chris will be back up 00:37:05.962 --> 00:37:12.526 - after this to talk about the fee waiver policy And just some brief overview of aquatics numbers as it 00:37:12.526 --> 00:37:18.961 - relates to this as well But we can have any staff come up for questions as needed Okay Well, just a 00:37:18.961 --> 00:37:21.278 - couple of things stood out to me at 00:37:21.666 --> 00:37:28.823 - Frank Southern I mean Jersey. It looks like these are new kind of interesting options Jersey purchase 00:37:28.823 --> 00:37:36.191 - and then the gear purchase I assume would be like hockey skates and Yeah, so right now the youth program 00:37:36.191 --> 00:37:43.489 - who has showed up quite abundantly here They currently run the gear rental program for our house hockey 00:37:43.489 --> 00:37:50.366 - program. We will be running the gear rental program going forward and so as an attempt to Offer a 00:37:50.466 --> 00:37:55.610 - Accessible entry point to house hockey. We want to keep house hockey as cheap as possible for an entry 00:37:55.610 --> 00:38:00.655 - point and then allow other options on top of that So the gear rental program will be free as part of 00:38:00.655 --> 00:38:05.699 - the house hockey program But then we'll also offer at the back end You really loved house hockey you 00:38:05.699 --> 00:38:11.093 - want to purchase your gear then you can pay extra money if you decide to do that So you have the accessible 00:38:11.093 --> 00:38:16.187 - entry point while also having the option to spend more money if you would like to and that's the same 00:38:16.187 --> 00:38:19.134 - with the Jersey purchase Okay. All right. That sounds good 00:38:19.490 --> 00:38:25.586 - and then for aquatics oh Never mind. I see new toddlers fee for the swim lessons. Is that yeah, we're 00:38:25.586 --> 00:38:31.562 - changing our guardian and toddler class a little bit So we've kind of found from last year that the 00:38:31.562 --> 00:38:37.538 - three we had nine days Of classes that's just a lot for a guardian and toddler. There's not a whole 00:38:37.538 --> 00:38:43.574 - lot to do It's about just getting the kid comfortable with the water and that kind of thing So we we 00:38:43.574 --> 00:38:47.518 - shortened the class and therefore we cut some of the price for it 00:38:47.810 --> 00:38:56.154 - Well, as someone who took their kids to all nine days and sang wheels on the bus. Thank you Yeah, it 00:38:56.154 --> 00:39:05.076 - was too long Okay, all right, so that's the aquatics portion and Frank Southern I had a couple of questions 00:39:05.076 --> 00:39:13.337 - since Chris is there what's the difference like it says adult hockey men's league $300 adult hockey 00:39:13.337 --> 00:39:17.054 - men's league team sign up with 13 players to 00:39:17.218 --> 00:39:25.142 - 250 yeah, so our our goal this year is to Get teams to sign up as a whole so it's $300 if you're if 00:39:25.142 --> 00:39:33.384 - you're signing up as an individual And then if you sign up as a team you get a discount because we want 00:39:33.384 --> 00:39:41.308 - to get whole teams. Yeah That makes more sense. And yeah, I thought that it was smart to change the 00:39:41.308 --> 00:39:46.142 - lifeguard with the rental yeah, that makes a ton of sense so 00:39:46.370 --> 00:39:57.977 - Well done on that piece For the trees and benches sorry Chris that probably is not you is it what is 00:39:57.977 --> 00:40:10.274 - the Is that our cost on it? Are we is what happens? Yeah, if the tree falls and then you've got to replace 00:40:10.274 --> 00:40:14.526 - it now or I know it's not but I mean 00:40:14.626 --> 00:40:19.922 - But are we accounting for that if folks are, you know, vandalism to a bench or whatever? We do try to 00:40:19.922 --> 00:40:25.166 - factor it in, but really it's the initial cost of the installation and the materials and the initial 00:40:25.166 --> 00:40:30.409 - tree. I don't know if you actually filter in a replacement, but no, that is just part of the course. 00:40:30.409 --> 00:40:35.757 - We do anticipate some vandalism's damage, also just weathering. Benches are a great example. Hopefully 00:40:35.757 --> 00:40:40.222 - the tree just keeps growing and is healthy, but we don't put that on the person who's 00:40:40.354 --> 00:40:45.769 - Who's getting the memorial? However, there's no expectation where if the tree were to fail or die I 00:40:45.769 --> 00:40:51.401 - forget how many years there is no replacement Okay after a certain amount of time we don't we say after 00:40:51.401 --> 00:40:56.816 - three years or correct same with replacing the memorial plaque those Walk away sometimes too. We we 00:40:56.816 --> 00:41:02.393 - put in every obviously we make them very heavy We install them so you can't just walk away But there's 00:41:02.393 --> 00:41:06.942 - no expectation for replacement forever to maintain that as a memorial tree. Yeah, I 00:41:07.298 --> 00:41:12.902 - Yeah, I mean, I don't know I guess and that's through us. It doesn't go through the foundation. Correct. 00:41:12.902 --> 00:41:18.239 - Okay. Yeah, I mean I think The instant cost installation of the bench to the labor that good I mean 00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:24.110 - I just would hope all that's being accounted for The maintenance is probably the one thing we are shortcoming 00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:29.501 - is the long-term maintenance But we're definitely covering the overhead for the install the purchase 00:41:29.501 --> 00:41:31.422 - and the initial investment. Okay, I 00:41:31.938 --> 00:41:39.416 - And then on the farmers market, so basically Tim you try you touched on this but essentially it's now 00:41:39.416 --> 00:41:46.822 - 675 for a large space 486 for a small space. Yes, so we didn't change the day rate So it's still $25 00:41:46.822 --> 00:41:54.300 - a day or $18 a day. There is an extra Saturday So there's 27 Saturdays this year's 26, but really the 00:41:54.300 --> 00:41:57.086 - difference is we removed a 10% fee so 00:41:57.506 --> 00:42:04.051 - In our attempts to kind of come back from COVID we were giving farmers a discount if they reserved their 00:42:04.051 --> 00:42:10.597 - Space for the whole year which gave them a 10% discount It didn't really increase the number of reserved 00:42:10.597 --> 00:42:17.018 - vendors It really wasn't doing what we thought it would do and so we've and now we're kind of a little 00:42:17.018 --> 00:42:23.376 - bit back to full not full capacity but closer and so we've removed that 10% which makes the jump look 00:42:23.376 --> 00:42:24.062 - bigger and 00:42:24.162 --> 00:42:33.471 - But ultimately the fee is the same $25 and $18 just accounting that exercise Just making sure I could 00:42:33.471 --> 00:42:42.963 - read a chart Okay, any other questions about Schedule price schedule updates. No, okay. All right. I'll 00:42:42.963 --> 00:42:52.638 - make a motion to approve 2026 season fee changes Second all right all those in favor. I Motion is carried 00:42:53.090 --> 00:42:59.002 - And then finishing out this section see Chris hammer also tell us the aquatics report and fee waiver 00:42:59.002 --> 00:43:04.855 - policy update Hello, Chris hammer facility manager at the pools here in town We're recommending the 00:43:04.855 --> 00:43:10.826 - approval of an updated policy for the fee waiver for the 2026 season We're updating the fee waiver to 00:43:10.826 --> 00:43:16.679 - include adults who are legally classified as children for public benefit purposes this also updates 00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:20.894 - the requirements for pool fee waivers to meet the federal standards and 00:43:21.026 --> 00:43:27.695 - This allows us to not be checking people's income statements to see if they qualify or not The federal 00:43:27.695 --> 00:43:34.429 - government will do that for us and then we just take their acceptance letter This also updates to allow 00:43:34.429 --> 00:43:40.903 - us one or to allow people to come in with one free adult supervisor with the qualifying participant 00:43:40.903 --> 00:43:48.414 - instead of two Okay Happy to answer any questions seems wise to just streamline it to the federal standard. Yeah, I 00:43:48.642 --> 00:43:55.281 - It's say I think it's gonna save a lot of admin staff time Yeah, not having to not having to check all 00:43:55.281 --> 00:44:02.049 - that stuff and and then we you know, it's it's just the federal standard We don't have to just determine 00:44:02.049 --> 00:44:08.688 - what our standard is and all that kind of stuff. So Okay All right, any questions about the Beware for 00:44:08.688 --> 00:44:15.198 - Chris Kathleen if no questions, I do have public comment just to share This is from Deborah Meyerson 00:44:15.394 --> 00:44:20.683 - We were emailing back and forth about potential policy updates and she said thank you for your reply 00:44:20.683 --> 00:44:26.077 - both of these policy proposals sound excellent and responsive Managing income eligibility via existing 00:44:26.077 --> 00:44:31.314 - federal programs such as snap wick section 8 or SSI Which is targeted for disabled or aged with low 00:44:31.314 --> 00:44:36.603 - income sounds like an excellent way to streamline internal application review While providing access 00:44:36.603 --> 00:44:41.996 - to households with limited resources for example Samuel and his housemate each have snap and SSI which 00:44:41.996 --> 00:44:43.934 - is essentially their only income and 00:44:44.994 --> 00:44:52.732 - Thank you so much for your help investigating how to manage the pool waiver Samuel is already talking 00:44:52.732 --> 00:45:00.318 - about when Brian Park pool opens this summer Okay. All right. Great. Thank you Prove the fee waiver 00:45:00.318 --> 00:45:07.904 - policy update Okay, and all those in favor aye aye All right motions carried. Thanks Chris And then 00:45:07.904 --> 00:45:13.214 - we will move into section D where we have two reports this evening. I 00:45:13.762 --> 00:45:19.551 - And do you want is the Iraq in your report? From didn't you're not Denise. I'm not any so unfortunately 00:45:19.551 --> 00:45:25.174 - Denise had a scheduling conflict So I was unable to attend today, but we do this annually We give an 00:45:25.174 --> 00:45:31.019 - update from Iraq which stands for the environmental resources advisory council So we did still put forth 00:45:31.019 --> 00:45:34.526 - the annual report from you for me all included some photos and 00:45:34.786 --> 00:45:39.831 - If you'd like we could come back at a later date and present it to you all There will also be an opportunity 00:45:39.831 --> 00:45:44.831 - for a natural resources manager We're requesting that she give you all an annual update a natural resources 00:45:44.831 --> 00:45:49.459 - management So there's a lot of overlap and content there But if you have any immediate questions or 00:45:49.459 --> 00:45:54.273 - want anything clear if I'm happy to answer but for the sake of the wonderful crowd that showed up today 00:45:54.273 --> 00:45:59.273 - I think we're all eager to move on to the next agenda item So with that again happy to answer any questions 00:45:59.273 --> 00:46:04.318 - Otherwise, if you would like we can present it at another time or just call it Good for your all's to review 00:46:04.802 --> 00:46:10.989 - You mean you're going to skip talking about the insect inventory? I know. No, I'm happy to find where 00:46:10.989 --> 00:46:17.176 - I am. I also liked the chest measurements of deer taken during hunts. Thank you. Keep repeating that. 00:46:17.176 --> 00:46:23.241 - Look at all the good science we take into account when decision-making. So yes, insect inventories, 00:46:23.241 --> 00:46:29.489 - chest height. But yes, feel free. I'll keep talking if you let me. Okay. Don't discount our bird town. 00:46:29.489 --> 00:46:33.310 - Exactly. Bird town, tree town, bee city. Yeah, forgetting one. 00:46:33.762 --> 00:46:39.951 - Bicycle bicycle friendly. Yeah. All right. Yeah. No, thank you There's a lot of good information in 00:46:39.951 --> 00:46:46.201 - here and we can always read this and then if we want to follow up that would be great Okay, a lot of 00:46:46.201 --> 00:46:52.885 - good work. We're proud of so, okay. All right. Thanks Rebecca and then indeed to We have the Frank Southern 00:46:52.885 --> 00:46:59.073 - ice arena risk and operation report which Chris will go through with us and Tim and also again just 00:46:59.073 --> 00:47:01.982 - since we probably have some people here that I 00:47:02.530 --> 00:47:08.395 - Don't usually come to the meeting. I'll just point out that this is strictly an informational report 00:47:08.395 --> 00:47:14.376 - We're not making any decisions or voting on anything. This is just that we get a sense of where things 00:47:14.376 --> 00:47:20.357 - are with our Beloved but aging ice arena. Yeah, so go ahead Yeah, Chris and I had talked earlier today 00:47:20.357 --> 00:47:26.222 - and just said I would just help preface this a little bit just to yes re-emphasize that as well This 00:47:26.222 --> 00:47:31.390 - is an informational report that really we've been working on for a while now considering 00:47:31.714 --> 00:47:38.479 - Count myself if you count keto Chris and Alec we've all been in our respective positions for about less 00:47:38.479 --> 00:47:43.422 - than two years. So basically a total total reset in terms of how leadership 00:47:43.522 --> 00:47:49.605 - Overseas the operations of a lot of our sports facilities including the ice arena So we've been working 00:47:49.605 --> 00:47:55.572 - on this report for the better part of gosh a year I know Chris and Alec have met with IB story, which 00:47:55.572 --> 00:48:01.655 - is the rink consultant a few times in there and explored some different options that we've talked about 00:48:01.655 --> 00:48:07.563 - to the board We've gotten some some better clarity on some of the claims they've made about you know 00:48:07.563 --> 00:48:12.126 - the unique old nature of the of the ice arena and able to Explain that better 00:48:12.322 --> 00:48:17.525 - And of course, I'll just mention that you know, we we of course were preparing this report before we 00:48:17.525 --> 00:48:22.728 - had the ammonia leak a few weeks ago So most of it was already prepared by that point We did go back 00:48:22.728 --> 00:48:27.983 - in and amend, you know a paragraph in there to kind of catch up with what we knew When we had to have 00:48:27.983 --> 00:48:33.341 - the report done for this board meeting and Chris can speak more to that and what we've discovered since 00:48:33.341 --> 00:48:38.750 - and then you know continuing to work with our mechanical contractor to identify the methods and costs of 00:48:38.850 --> 00:48:44.592 - Repairing the system the gasket that failed and again, I want to defer to Chris on that but Looking 00:48:44.592 --> 00:48:50.450 - to you know, how do we safely reopen? While we look at the bigger picture questions that are involved 00:48:50.450 --> 00:48:56.307 - in this report That's really where we're at. And lastly, I would just say, you know, the ammonia leak 00:48:56.307 --> 00:49:02.222 - is something we've Thought about and worried about and you know wanted to be prepared for and I'm very 00:49:02.222 --> 00:49:07.390 - grateful for our staff I'm gonna give a big shout out to Isabel who was there that night? 00:49:07.586 --> 00:49:13.654 - You know the alarms the exhaust fan everything functions as it should have Yeah, we don't like that 00:49:13.654 --> 00:49:19.904 - it happened, but I am very pleased with how our staff and systems handled it and that we were Prepared 00:49:19.904 --> 00:49:26.033 - to handle it the appropriate way and I appreciate everyone being out here tonight To talk more about 00:49:26.033 --> 00:49:29.310 - this. I'm sure so I'll turn it over to Chris. Yeah, I 00:49:30.018 --> 00:49:34.845 - First of all, if anybody knows Rebecca, she would have talked about insects for the rest of the meeting 00:49:34.845 --> 00:49:39.486 - if she had the opportunity. I also want to reiterate, thank you guys all for coming out. It's great 00:49:39.486 --> 00:49:44.127 - to see this much support for the ice arena. Obviously, they care a lot about it. I care a lot about 00:49:44.127 --> 00:49:45.566 - it. Alec cares a lot about it. 00:49:45.730 --> 00:49:50.405 - Isabella was the supervisor on duty. She's here tonight. She's also plays on one of the IU teams and 00:49:50.405 --> 00:49:55.173 - Peyton was there as well I don't know if anybody else we had some ice show instructors that were there 00:49:55.173 --> 00:49:59.894 - that helped as well So I don't know if any of them are here that were there that night I kind of want 00:49:59.894 --> 00:50:04.662 - to give you guys the outline of what we're gonna talk about today First so that you you know that what 00:50:04.662 --> 00:50:09.337 - we're gonna get to and feel free to stop me at any point if you have questions or anything like that 00:50:09.337 --> 00:50:12.670 - so we're gonna talk about the history of the ice arena a little bit and 00:50:13.218 --> 00:50:19.407 - the community impact, the current conditions, the current system, what the risk management aspect of 00:50:19.407 --> 00:50:25.658 - it is and what we're working on. The addendum obviously is the ammonia leak and then we'll talk about 00:50:25.658 --> 00:50:27.006 - next steps from here. 00:50:29.026 --> 00:50:34.737 - So it was built in 1966 as an open-air facility. It was enclosed in 1988. Before that, it had open air. 00:50:34.737 --> 00:50:40.228 - And there's some funny stories. My dad played there and has told me some funny stories about people 00:50:40.228 --> 00:50:43.742 - sticking their tongues to the posts and all that kind of stuff. 00:50:43.842 --> 00:50:49.827 - They I'm glad they enclosed it. I'm glad I didn't have to claim an open-air facility in 1996 a feasibility 00:50:49.827 --> 00:50:55.532 - study was conducted due to city administration that I think the mayor at the time Recommended as part 00:50:55.532 --> 00:51:01.516 - of the budget. We're going to close the ice arena and save the money on it So they conducted a feasibility 00:51:01.516 --> 00:51:07.165 - study the results suggested a new facility be considered to replace the Frank Southern ice arena due 00:51:07.165 --> 00:51:13.150 - to the demand in the area partnerships and RFPs were explored but ultimately enough enough funding was not 00:51:13.250 --> 00:51:19.768 - available to build a new ice arena The funding that had been collected through some generous donations 00:51:19.768 --> 00:51:26.222 - through the likes of Phil Hill Funded renovations including the lobby and a new compressor as well as 00:51:26.222 --> 00:51:32.613 - the HVAC system repairs and roof repairs The community impact the ice arena serves between 60 and 65 00:51:32.613 --> 00:51:38.878 - annual 65,000 annual visitors including several of the user groups which have shown up tonight and 00:51:39.138 --> 00:51:45.282 - Many of these groups have participants that have been a part of the ice arena from the time they were 00:51:45.282 --> 00:51:51.305 - five all the way through high school and sometimes longer than that. And they will, there's several 00:51:51.305 --> 00:51:57.388 - instances of multiple generations now going through the ice arena. We also host a number of open use 00:51:57.388 --> 00:52:03.471 - and recreational introductory programs. In the master planning survey, 76% of participants expressed 00:52:03.471 --> 00:52:08.350 - willingness to pay for improvements to the ice arena and 23% strongly supported. 00:52:08.642 --> 00:52:14.185 - Now part of that master planning process as you guys know no numbers were attached to that so it's maybe 00:52:14.185 --> 00:52:19.464 - a different different conversation we start talking about how much money people want to want to pay 00:52:19.464 --> 00:52:24.902 - the current conditions we've included the budget numbers in the report I won't read through that whole 00:52:24.902 --> 00:52:25.694 - piece for you. 00:52:26.146 --> 00:52:31.456 - The slight decrease in cost recovery over the past few years has been due to a variety of factors We've 00:52:31.456 --> 00:52:36.868 - had a salary study for full-time employees that has changed that a little bit annual raises for part-time 00:52:36.868 --> 00:52:42.024 - staff we move the ice resurfacer into our operational budget because we have to lease it now instead 00:52:42.024 --> 00:52:47.539 - of Instead of using the one that we had before we had to replace that one And then just in general starting 00:52:47.539 --> 00:52:52.542 - to spend money to replace some of the old pieces of the building and trying to fix some things up 00:52:53.634 --> 00:52:58.564 - We are currently working on some new initiatives to improve the cost recovery rate. You saw those in 00:52:58.564 --> 00:53:03.445 - the fee changes. Some of these include extending the ice season, opening the building in the summer 00:53:03.445 --> 00:53:08.815 - for rentals, working to increase partnerships for sponsorship, naming rights, looking at a shared stewardship 00:53:08.815 --> 00:53:13.842 - model as a possible new model. Along with these initiatives, the entire Parks Department has just gone 00:53:13.842 --> 00:53:18.724 - through training on financial sustainability as part of the master planning process. We are working 00:53:18.724 --> 00:53:22.238 - to review various cost recovery factors, including pricing usage rates. 00:53:22.370 --> 00:53:28.523 - partnerships Our current system, so this is where we get into the the details a little bit with with 00:53:28.523 --> 00:53:34.677 - everything that happened We have an direct ammonia based cooling system. This means that the ammonia 00:53:34.677 --> 00:53:40.830 - gets pushed through the pipes Which which cools the concrete and allows it to freeze many ice arenas 00:53:40.830 --> 00:53:45.278 - you use ammonia as a coolant and many ice arenas have direct systems and 00:53:45.474 --> 00:53:51.465 - But we are one of the last systems that has a direct ammonia system meaning our all of our ammonia gets 00:53:51.465 --> 00:53:57.629 - pushed through the pipes So they will use a smaller amount of ammonia to cool glycol that will run through 00:53:57.629 --> 00:54:03.562 - the pipes or they will use So that's that that's an indirect system We're one of the last that has all 00:54:03.562 --> 00:54:09.495 - of that ammonia getting pushed through the pipes and that's per IB story Who's the the rank consultant 00:54:09.495 --> 00:54:12.318 - that we've been talking to? Any questions so far 00:54:13.090 --> 00:54:17.718 - Feeling good. Okay. All right risk management. I know it's a lot. I'm sorry Risk man that we've done 00:54:17.718 --> 00:54:22.484 - a ton of work on this risk management understanding the risk possible the possible risks involved We've 00:54:22.484 --> 00:54:27.204 - been considering some key factors surrounding risk management with the ice arena and Hydrosammonia has 00:54:27.204 --> 00:54:31.832 - been used for many years as a coolant for both ice arenas and in many other industries It has mature 00:54:31.832 --> 00:54:34.398 - safety standards. There's many standards that have been 00:54:34.498 --> 00:54:40.043 - Used for a long time. It was chosen and it's still chosen because it is self alarming at low concentrations 00:54:40.043 --> 00:54:45.383 - You can smell it at a really low concentration. It's energy efficient It's lighter than air which means 00:54:45.383 --> 00:54:51.390 - it's easily ventilated out of a out of a tight confined area and it's considered environment environmentally neutral 00:54:52.098 --> 00:54:58.362 - It does come with potential risks. Obviously the majority of ammonia leaks result from normal mechanical 00:54:58.362 --> 00:55:04.506 - failure points like valves or in this case gaskets Rather than catastrophic slab failure or due to the 00:55:04.506 --> 00:55:10.651 - direct design specifically and that's according to the International Ice ammonia refrigeration Ammonia 00:55:10.651 --> 00:55:16.318 - incident database. Sorry, that was a lot to say a lot to say we use a contractor deem who is a 00:55:16.642 --> 00:55:22.680 - Certified by the II AR and trained in their ammonia refrigeration management program They handle all 00:55:22.680 --> 00:55:29.078 - of our inspections as well as start up and shut down all adjustments Are made and work is done exclusively 00:55:29.078 --> 00:55:35.116 - by them. We don't have staff members going in there trying to figure out we're trying to You know at 00:55:35.116 --> 00:55:41.095 - home where you know work it out that kind of thing so it's all done by a certified contractor we've 00:55:41.095 --> 00:55:45.758 - installed a new alarm system that is monitored 24-7 by central securities and 00:55:45.858 --> 00:55:51.264 - We have EAPs in place that are shared with risk management MCC SC and BFD annually The directive is 00:55:51.264 --> 00:55:56.832 - simple and the invent of an alarm clear the building call BFD and call Dean and And we'll work it from 00:55:56.832 --> 00:56:02.238 - there staff is not responsible for anything other than those two pieces They're not responsible for 00:56:02.238 --> 00:56:07.861 - going in and trying to figure out what's going on anything like that Just clearing the building getting 00:56:07.861 --> 00:56:10.942 - everybody safe and that's to keep staff and patrons safe 00:56:12.962 --> 00:56:19.506 - As part of this process, we've been working with Deem to meet the IIAR9 standards for existing closed-circuit 00:56:19.506 --> 00:56:25.454 - ammonia systems. This standard is designed for systems that operate with more than 10,000 pounds of 00:56:25.454 --> 00:56:31.582 - ammonia. Our ice arena operates with less than half that at 4,125. We have decided to go ahead and try 00:56:31.582 --> 00:56:37.709 - to meet these standards anyway, just as a safety precaution. We'll talk here in a minute about the gap 00:56:37.709 --> 00:56:41.278 - analysis. This is also in the report that you guys can see. 00:56:41.442 --> 00:56:47.337 - We just don't see any reason why we shouldn't just go ahead and meet these standards even if we're not 00:56:47.337 --> 00:56:53.462 - actually bound to them Dean has conducted a gap analysis and we have until December 31st 2029 to remediate 00:56:53.462 --> 00:56:59.243 - any deficiencies or state why we are unable to do so Gaps are listed in the report but includes some 00:56:59.243 --> 00:57:01.246 - construction documentation tagging 00:57:01.378 --> 00:57:07.150 - Content connecting our water heater to the e-stop adding an eyewash station and adding a ventilation 00:57:07.150 --> 00:57:13.208 - switch outside the mechanical room So we have one inside the mechanical room, but just adding one outside 00:57:13.208 --> 00:57:18.980 - the non admin items So the admin items are already being worked on that non admin items. We estimate 00:57:18.980 --> 00:57:23.038 - the cost at approximately $15,000 Now the addendum on the ammonia leak 00:57:23.906 --> 00:57:29.558 - March 10th a gasket failed leaking ammonia setting off the alarm and kicking on the ventilation system 00:57:29.558 --> 00:57:35.374 - Ammonia was ventilated out of the system or out of the facility and and mechanical room the alarm tripped 00:57:35.374 --> 00:57:41.136 - I was called immediately by our monitoring company and staff on site began executing the EAP all patrons 00:57:41.136 --> 00:57:43.166 - and staff were evacuated quickly and 00:57:43.266 --> 00:57:48.516 - BFD and BPD were called and BFD did a secondary sweep upon arrival just to make sure that everybody 00:57:48.516 --> 00:57:53.819 - was was truly out of the building MCC SC was also notified and then deem was called to come down and 00:57:53.819 --> 00:57:59.384 - figure out what was going on They isolated the leak and declared the building safe The ammonia was pumped 00:57:59.384 --> 00:58:04.687 - out of the floor back into the tank in the arena was closed for the ice season The failure point was 00:58:04.687 --> 00:58:10.462 - not something that was due to the direct ammonia system or age of the system The gasket is just like anything 00:58:10.690 --> 00:58:16.476 - Other gases to rubber gasket that just happened to fail just like it would in your car or something 00:58:16.476 --> 00:58:22.320 - like that So unfortunately it failed and more important thing than just a car gasket, but but that's 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:28.163 - it's just a normal gasket Obviously going forward we're planning on replacing the gaskets and making 00:58:28.163 --> 00:58:33.949 - sure all that stuff's good to go So in conclusion the ice arena is at a critical point the facility 00:58:33.949 --> 00:58:38.462 - hasn't received the necessary capital investment over the years last month we 00:58:38.594 --> 00:58:44.250 - Last month we met with the risk department to ensure we were on the same page about operating with the 00:58:44.250 --> 00:58:50.016 - appropriate safety precautions. Next steps from them and from our conversations include completing items 00:58:50.016 --> 00:58:55.947 - on the gap analysis, repairing issues caused by the leak, and creating a full comprehensive risk management 00:58:55.947 --> 00:59:01.548 - plan. So we have EAPs in place. We have a risk management style plan, but the risk management plan is 00:59:01.548 --> 00:59:05.502 - a separate, it has to follow certain standards and documentation steps. 00:59:06.050 --> 00:59:11.254 - Estimated cost for all of these repairs is somewhere between thirty and fifty thousand dollars We think 00:59:11.254 --> 00:59:16.259 - it's going to be a little bit on the lower end of that To do those repairs over the past few years. 00:59:16.259 --> 00:59:21.463 - We have been meeting with Ivy story Who's the reek rink consultant that they're international they work 00:59:21.463 --> 00:59:26.617 - with? NHL ranks and small-town ranks and all kinds of all kinds of ranks and they've helped us develop 00:59:26.617 --> 00:59:27.518 - a few options and 00:59:28.258 --> 00:59:34.477 - Option number one would be abandoning the Frank Southern Center and building a new facility. Estimated 00:59:34.477 --> 00:59:40.756 - cost for that would be $12 million plus depending on how we want to go about that. Replacing the entire 00:59:40.756 --> 00:59:46.794 - ammonia system, getting all the ammonia out of the building, going to a glycol-based system. It's a 00:59:46.794 --> 00:59:52.953 - new kind of compressor, pretty state-of-the-art stuff. For that, that would be three to four million. 00:59:52.953 --> 00:59:57.662 - Replacing the direct cooling system with an indirect system, so this would be 00:59:57.762 --> 01:00:02.776 - Going to the system that a lot of other places use where they have a small amount of ammonia that cools 01:00:02.776 --> 01:00:07.742 - the glycol that runs through the floor That that estimated cost would be 1.2 million I do want to make 01:00:07.742 --> 01:00:12.708 - sure I note on that that that would mean that we would still have ammonia in the building It would not 01:00:12.708 --> 01:00:17.819 - be pumped out into the floor. It wouldn't be in the same the same system, but we would still have ammonia 01:00:17.819 --> 01:00:18.590 - in the building 01:00:19.810 --> 01:00:26.751 - Given the ice arenas impact profile. It is unlikely general fund money will be used to cover the full 01:00:26.751 --> 01:00:33.965 - cost of any of these options Funding contributions must be pursued from other sources private individuals 01:00:33.965 --> 01:00:40.906 - naming rights contracts partnerships that kind of thing And I think that's all Yeah, I'll just try to 01:00:40.906 --> 01:00:46.622 - keep my questions short again because we have people might want to comment but as I 01:00:46.754 --> 01:00:53.302 - Maybe for Tim, do you know if there have been any other leaks over the age of the ice arena? When I 01:00:53.302 --> 01:00:59.850 - it actually at the start of the year, I had had lunch with the former deputy mayor McRenison He had 01:00:59.850 --> 01:01:06.594 - said there had been a minor one Sometime during his tenure, but he didn't remember when exactly I want 01:01:06.594 --> 01:01:13.142 - to say that was probably the late 1980s early 1990s Okay, and I know that the Zamboni failed and so 01:01:13.142 --> 01:01:14.910 - we went to the renting and 01:01:15.010 --> 01:01:20.968 - Other than that, I mean have there been any big costs associated with it or I mean and other than replacing 01:01:20.968 --> 01:01:26.761 - this system I guess is there been is there been other deferred maintenance in there like we talked about 01:01:26.761 --> 01:01:32.334 - with the pools or is it just been is this really the focus of what we Needed the big focus as far as 01:01:32.334 --> 01:01:38.016 - deferred maintenance is this system because we want it to be as safe as possible the other things that 01:01:38.016 --> 01:01:42.430 - are included in deferred maintenance is is stuff stuff really needs painted and 01:01:42.530 --> 01:01:48.392 - The flooring really needs replaced. It's a lot more. There's a lot of cosmetic stuff that that goes 01:01:48.392 --> 01:01:54.431 - into it. Thankfully overall while this system is outdated. It's it's not the system that we would want 01:01:54.431 --> 01:02:00.645 - to if we were to install something today. We wouldn't want to use it. But the the the way that the system 01:02:00.645 --> 01:02:02.462 - itself has been taken care of. 01:02:02.562 --> 01:02:08.171 - They have updated a lot of pieces within that so that that's why it's safe That's why the the ventilation 01:02:08.171 --> 01:02:13.462 - system worked the way that it was supposed to and all that kind of stuff. So We didn't you know, it 01:02:13.462 --> 01:02:18.859 - wasn't it wasn't dangerous because not that it wasn't dangerous But that it wasn't creating a problem 01:02:18.859 --> 01:02:24.414 - because a lot of the system had been updated on that front now the the pieces that have not been updated 01:02:24.414 --> 01:02:25.790 - in the ice arena are just 01:02:26.146 --> 01:02:32.345 - All of the cosmetic stuff and and you know, there's storage issues and locker room issues and all that 01:02:32.345 --> 01:02:38.604 - kind of stuff So that's where the deferred maintenance comes in. Okay Kathleen I'd say there were there 01:02:38.604 --> 01:02:44.743 - were really two major investments in the 2000s and One came in the early 2000s with some of the money 01:02:44.743 --> 01:02:50.821 - that was donated by the Hill family during The mayor at the time was interested in shutting down the 01:02:50.821 --> 01:02:54.974 - arena. There was public pushback there was a whole process by way of 01:02:55.106 --> 01:03:02.551 - The YMCA was contacted IU was contacted to see about partnership opportunities the opportunity to build 01:03:02.551 --> 01:03:09.925 - a new rink as Chris mentioned there was there was not the social or fiscal capital at the time to make 01:03:09.925 --> 01:03:11.070 - that happen and 01:03:11.170 --> 01:03:18.925 - And so instead the donation for rooms went to renovating the arena. So about $400,000 went in it replaced 01:03:18.925 --> 01:03:26.899 - the compressor It did some lobby renovations at one point. There was a roof failure that cost some insurance 01:03:26.899 --> 01:03:34.434 - dollars over the lobby to be activated from an improper roof installation And then solar was installed 01:03:34.434 --> 01:03:38.750 - in 2017. So it is Chris mentioned I think the the critical 01:03:39.042 --> 01:03:46.432 - You know alarm and safety call-out and vent fan all of that stuff has has been kept up which has been 01:03:46.432 --> 01:03:54.402 - really important for safe operations But we are at a critical junction once again of you know, the investment 01:03:54.402 --> 01:04:01.647 - from 25 years ago Is reaching its end date when we know we have an old facility, you know the price 01:04:01.647 --> 01:04:07.806 - tag for a new facility is very steep so we are just really exploring all options and 01:04:08.002 --> 01:04:16.578 - Regarding the arena and what we consider with it going forward Yeah, I see yeah when in 1999 when we 01:04:16.578 --> 01:04:25.070 - reached out to the Y and IU and they both declined to be involved in that But was IU using the rink 01:04:25.070 --> 01:04:33.901 - back then? I mean, obviously they're using it now, but we have somebody here that I think played around 01:04:33.901 --> 01:04:36.958 - that time Yeah, so he played for IU 01:04:37.282 --> 01:04:43.574 - And yeah, they were they were using it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, okay Obviously, it's not a division one program 01:04:43.574 --> 01:04:49.569 - sure and I think going forward I don't want to speak for IU. Obviously if they want to donate money, 01:04:49.569 --> 01:04:55.742 - we'll take it but but I would say that most likely with all the stuff that's going on with with all the 01:04:55.842 --> 01:05:01.047 - That they're having to pay and all that kind of stuff. I think yeah It's unlikely at this point that 01:05:01.047 --> 01:05:06.561 - they would be interested in starting a new division one program right now it's something that we obviously 01:05:06.561 --> 01:05:11.766 - will connect with them and and see if they want to pursue at some point, but I Would be surprised if 01:05:11.766 --> 01:05:14.910 - they're wanting to do that right this minute. Okay, right. I 01:05:15.010 --> 01:05:21.162 - Thank you. So what's the plan for us going forward? This report's helpful and all that but when are 01:05:21.162 --> 01:05:26.883 - we going to explore alternatives? How's that going to be presented to us or how's that going 01:05:26.883 --> 01:05:33.466 - to be undertaken? I Think likely what we discussed today I was just getting back from vacation and getting 01:05:33.466 --> 01:05:39.618 - up to speed on everything that's been going on is we'll likely have a contract for a Fuller picture 01:05:39.618 --> 01:05:44.478 - of exactly what it's looking like to open safely and kind of do status quo and 01:05:44.706 --> 01:05:50.622 - You know for the next couple years here And then I think what we need to do is put together a stakeholder 01:05:50.622 --> 01:05:55.924 - group and really have some serious discussions It's it's IU. It's blades. It's figure skating. 01:05:55.924 --> 01:06:01.672 - It's you know, a lot of the interested parties Have some of these discussions and really explore these 01:06:01.672 --> 01:06:07.365 - options laid out in this report for the long term And and certainly the board would be a part of that 01:06:07.365 --> 01:06:13.169 - stakeholder group I would hope maybe to have representation on it then ultimately a decision would come 01:06:13.169 --> 01:06:14.174 - back to the board 01:06:14.274 --> 01:06:23.058 - Which direction we want to pursue as well Yeah, I guess from my standpoint Without having much information 01:06:23.058 --> 01:06:31.431 - other than this and having lived in Bloomington for 45 years is That I think the ice rinks a valuable 01:06:31.431 --> 01:06:39.804 - asset to the community. I think the current ice rink that we have is Well below standard I think that 01:06:39.804 --> 01:06:43.006 - this is a community that should have a 01:06:43.682 --> 01:06:51.293 - better ice rink and I guess I would Generally again without a lot of knowledge or having looked at it 01:06:51.293 --> 01:06:58.829 - or having heard from anybody I'm less interested in putting money into the ice rink we have and more 01:06:58.829 --> 01:07:04.798 - interested in looking what other alternatives we have out there and I know that 01:07:05.026 --> 01:07:12.136 - IU was, that's 27 years ago that we asked them if they wanted to be, now I understand NIL and everything 01:07:12.136 --> 01:07:19.044 - else, but I also understand what I saw during the Winter Olympics with hockey. I also know that Title 01:07:19.044 --> 01:07:26.222 - IX is still an issue and women's hockey is more and more popular. Even if we didn't have a men's Division 01:07:26.222 --> 01:07:32.926 - I program, it seems to me a women's hockey team would be something that IU might be interested in. 01:07:33.058 --> 01:07:44.018 - and it seems to me that I mean I would be in favor in going into significant explorations on a new ice 01:07:44.018 --> 01:07:54.978 - rink partnering with somebody whether that's IU whether that's somebody an entity like cook or a minor 01:07:54.978 --> 01:07:56.574 - league team or 01:07:57.346 --> 01:08:04.770 - You know getting a lily grant or fundraising on our own or any kind of bonds that we could do Would 01:08:04.770 --> 01:08:12.269 - seem to me a much better use of our money than continuing to put money into an ice rink that I think 01:08:12.269 --> 01:08:19.916 - is not It's better than nothing, but I'm not sure and these people out here know better than I do. I'm 01:08:19.916 --> 01:08:26.078 - not a I'm not an ice skater or a hockey player or anything else like that, but I I 01:08:26.210 --> 01:08:34.294 - I'm not sure it's a whole lot better than nothing. It's a little bit better than nothing. So I would 01:08:34.294 --> 01:08:42.378 - be I would be in favor of significantly exploring what other options we have to build in partnership 01:08:42.378 --> 01:08:50.381 - more than likely a Nice arena or ice facility that could be used by the public could be used by the 01:08:50.381 --> 01:08:51.582 - University and 01:08:51.906 --> 01:08:57.862 - I want to say I think you kind of hit the nail on the head with the with the We're at the point now 01:08:57.862 --> 01:09:03.996 - where it's we have to make that decision, right? Like it's do we put more money into the ice arena the 01:09:03.996 --> 01:09:06.974 - way it is and try to fix up what we have or do we 01:09:07.074 --> 01:09:13.690 - Pursue something else and I think that's when when Tim says that's we're at a critical juncture I think 01:09:13.690 --> 01:09:20.242 - that's what he means like it's to me. We're just throwing good money after bad by putting it into this 01:09:20.242 --> 01:09:26.604 - facility I'd rather put it towards a I'm not at all for closing down and not having a nice facility 01:09:26.604 --> 01:09:33.284 - Far from it and I'd keep what we've got before I go to that route, but I think we're much better looking 01:09:33.284 --> 01:09:34.238 - at options and 01:09:34.530 --> 01:09:40.289 - Again, it's hard to believe because I remember when it was getting ready to be closed the first time 01:09:40.289 --> 01:09:45.991 - but it's that's that's 25 26 27 years ago that that you know things have changed Since that time so 01:09:45.991 --> 01:09:51.921 - that's my two cents worth and Jim. I agree as well And I think importantly that's why we wanted to make 01:09:51.921 --> 01:09:57.736 - this report and put it out there and really get this in the public eye Because what we can't do is we 01:09:57.736 --> 01:10:02.526 - can't just continue to say, okay. Well, we can't figure it out right now we'll just 01:10:03.138 --> 01:10:08.789 - Do the big bare minimum repairs make sure it's at least safe, right? I mean that's that's a minimum 01:10:08.789 --> 01:10:14.441 - standard. We're always gonna hold ourselves to And and then not make a decision for years and years 01:10:14.441 --> 01:10:20.488 - and years so I think you know certainly looking at the the immediate investment needed to you know respond 01:10:20.488 --> 01:10:26.535 - to the leak and replace the gasket and make sure that stuff's good is stuff we want to do because whatever 01:10:26.535 --> 01:10:31.678 - decision we come to on this and Legitimately all three of the options on here there may be 01:10:32.034 --> 01:10:37.648 - Variations of those options as well, but they're all valid and they're all worth exploring And that's 01:10:37.648 --> 01:10:43.208 - why we wanted to put this out there as an informational report right now Not with the recommendation 01:10:43.208 --> 01:10:49.097 - because we need to have time We need to have a public process and a chance for stakeholders to be involved 01:10:49.097 --> 01:10:54.766 - as well. So That's why this this report is public. I'm happy to have it out there I'm happy for people 01:10:54.766 --> 01:11:00.766 - to review it share it talk about it. Great. I would love for this to be in the public eye Any other comments 01:11:00.866 --> 01:11:09.752 - From board members before we go to public comment Yeah Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. Thank you Chris. 01:11:09.752 --> 01:11:18.470 - Thank you, Tim Okay, then in our section II anyone who in person would like to comment we usually offer 01:11:18.470 --> 01:11:24.254 - two minutes and ask you to come up to the podium state your name and 01:11:24.674 --> 01:11:35.102 - And then Kim will see if we have any online comments as well. Do we still have a sign-in sheet for people 01:11:35.102 --> 01:11:45.234 - to? Okay Okay Yeah, so anyone who would like to comment on anything we've discussed or any other parks 01:11:45.234 --> 01:11:48.382 - issues All right get it started 01:11:53.346 --> 01:12:02.490 - Was not prepared to speak but I'm going to do it. Anyway, my name is Mark Deitch I've been a long long 01:12:02.490 --> 01:12:11.812 - user of the Frank Southern Center since I believe is 1978 I'm from India drove down from Fishers tonight 01:12:11.812 --> 01:12:20.690 - and currently the one of the coaches Or I'm the head coach of the d3 I Worked at the Frank for five 01:12:20.690 --> 01:12:22.110 - years during my 01:12:22.274 --> 01:12:33.237 - college time here. So, this rink is kind of a second home for me, as is this town. We have a pretty 01:12:33.237 --> 01:12:44.748 - good representation here. Several guys that I've coached from the other team. I really wanted to mention 01:12:44.748 --> 01:12:50.558 - how successful those teams are. One of the teams won 01:12:50.658 --> 01:12:58.840 - nationals two years ago. The team I coach did very well, and really the one I want to focus on here 01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:07.594 - the most was the women's team. And not only that, but there are girls from Bloomington who are Bloomington 01:13:07.594 --> 01:13:15.857 - residents that make up that team. And they're very excited. They're trending up. They went from just 01:13:15.857 --> 01:13:20.030 - kind of a group to being an HTA official team now. 01:13:20.546 --> 01:13:30.674 - which just happened this year. But bottom line is, we need this ranked badly. Obviously, best case scenario, 01:13:30.674 --> 01:13:40.895 - we got a big, nice two-pat facility. We know that that's very difficult. But there are so many opportunities. 01:13:40.895 --> 01:13:47.678 - I am involved with the ACHA, which is the governing body of club hockey. 01:13:47.938 --> 01:13:58.410 - And they have come to me the last two years looking for help to find a facility to host regional tournaments. 01:13:58.410 --> 01:14:08.121 - And I helped them two years ago, or the season before last, have it down in Evansville. Would love to 01:14:08.121 --> 01:14:15.166 - have done it here. We just don't have a facility for something like that. 01:14:15.298 --> 01:14:26.680 - But the need is there the want is there obviously as we progress on Sorry, sorry to cut you off that 01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:35.582 - is two minutes Thank you Anyone else who would like to comment yes, come on up 01:14:38.370 --> 01:14:45.012 - If anyone online would like to make a comment also, if you would like to raise your hand, I can. I moved 01:14:45.012 --> 01:14:51.464 - in Bloomington 11 years ago, and I have two daughters. Both of them are figure skaters. And actually, 01:14:51.464 --> 01:14:57.790 - this is not the only reason, but this is one reason I had been homemaker for a few years to support 01:14:57.790 --> 01:15:00.510 - my husband. My husband is a faculty in IU. 01:15:00.834 --> 01:15:08.647 - and my two daughters to skate year-round in Columbus. So during this difficult journal, we've been couple 01:15:08.647 --> 01:15:16.239 - with many families. Some kids, they are really talented figure skaters. But because I first put in the 01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:24.200 - community to Columbus, they created. So it's really, so if we have this kind, it will make a big difference 01:15:24.200 --> 01:15:28.254 - in figure skating community. Yeah, so that's my point. 01:15:28.450 --> 01:15:37.384 - So you're wrong ring though. We will help cultivate a Beautiful ice skating community. Yeah, okay. 01:15:37.384 --> 01:15:46.408 - Thank you. All right. Thank you Yes, anyone else who'd like to comment My name is Allison Norris, I 01:15:46.408 --> 01:15:55.433 - have two young boys that are involved in blades and then three-year-old tags along quite a bit more 01:15:55.433 --> 01:15:56.606 - probably and 01:15:56.898 --> 01:16:03.083 - when he's a little bit older, the kids that play hockey at Frank Southern, they spend their summers 01:16:03.083 --> 01:16:09.331 - traveling to Columbus, traveling to Indy to try and get a little bit of ice time. It's a really long 01:16:09.331 --> 01:16:15.949 - drive for an hour in the summer. But even just discussing with them the possibility that the Frank doesn't 01:16:15.949 --> 01:16:22.382 - exist anymore, that they don't have an ice rink, they don't just want to play hockey. They want to play 01:16:22.382 --> 01:16:26.526 - hockey in Bloomington. They want to be home. They want to be here. 01:16:28.322 --> 01:16:37.566 - And they deserve a good facility. We travel all over to small towns all over Ohio. And South Bend, 01:16:37.566 --> 01:16:47.183 - I think, just got a fifth sheet. And it's like, can we get one? One full-size sheet would be glorious. 01:16:47.183 --> 01:16:56.894 - So I really appreciate your attention to this. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, everyone. It was kind of loud. 01:16:56.994 --> 01:17:03.464 - Amy Moorwick and Thanks again for listening to this. We really do appreciate it I am speaking as somebody 01:17:03.464 --> 01:17:09.751 - who has spent over 30 years coaching gymnastics So in in Bloomington, so I've witnessed how sports can 01:17:09.751 --> 01:17:15.916 - shape confidence resilience character And then for the past 10 years, I've also been deeply involved 01:17:15.916 --> 01:17:21.470 - with the blades as a parent team manager board member and of course a fan of all of it and 01:17:22.050 --> 01:17:28.084 - And then through that lens I can tell you that Bloomington's ice skating rink is far more than a facility 01:17:28.084 --> 01:17:34.231 - It's a community hub a character building space in a place where lifelong friendships and family traditions 01:17:34.231 --> 01:17:39.980 - flourish As I'm sure you can all hear it attest from from people talking It's also a place where our 01:17:39.980 --> 01:17:46.014 - youth gets to experience IU and those players when they come into the rink It's pretty unique in that way 01:17:46.530 --> 01:17:52.072 - So over the years I've watched countless kids grow into remarkable young adults because of the opportunities 01:17:52.072 --> 01:17:57.207 - provided at the rink both in hockey and in figure skating Our players and skaters deeply value every 01:17:57.207 --> 01:18:02.342 - minute on the ice and they do not take it for granted This past year our high school hockey team had 01:18:02.342 --> 01:18:07.528 - a slow start to this season, but through grit and perseverance They came together ultimately reaching 01:18:07.528 --> 01:18:12.765 - the state finals, which is really cool and then for those players every second on the ice every moment 01:18:12.765 --> 01:18:14.494 - with their teammates mattered and 01:18:14.978 --> 01:18:20.931 - And for the community it meant celebrating pride teamwork and dedication I could go on and on and I'm 01:18:20.931 --> 01:18:27.000 - gonna keep it shorter, but basically the other day I was in the rink and I was seeing all the different 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:32.953 - when somebody mentioned generational it is so true I sat there and watched like Grandparents came and 01:18:32.953 --> 01:18:39.023 - talked to me about how they remember watching their kids play there and now their grandkids are playing 01:18:39.023 --> 01:18:42.174 - at the same time I watched a 3v3 adult tournament and 01:18:42.434 --> 01:18:51.591 - Happening that was so awesome and the families were coming in to watch those and nobody got hurt. I 01:18:51.591 --> 01:19:01.022 - don't think so. That was good Good old weeks there and and you know just even like during the day like 01:19:01.022 --> 01:19:06.974 - there's open skates hockey drop-ins college kids Okay, thank you 01:19:08.258 --> 01:19:15.540 - I'm gonna ask for everybody to hold on for just a moment. I'm gonna take one from Online, okay, Claire. 01:19:15.540 --> 01:19:22.822 - I'm gonna ask you to unmute yourself and give you an opportunity Hi, sorry, we got so many missed mixed 01:19:22.822 --> 01:19:30.525 - messages today about the time I would have been there myself. I'm Claire Walsack I am part of the Bloomington 01:19:30.525 --> 01:19:35.006 - figure skating club. I have skated at the rink for 20 years and 01:19:35.650 --> 01:19:42.411 - With my family, both my kids were part of this club. I was the president of the club for four years, 01:19:42.411 --> 01:19:49.105 - and now that I'm an empty nester, I am an avid figure skater myself. This is part of the community. 01:19:49.105 --> 01:19:56.134 - More than once, we have gone and tried to get a group of people for support. We need a new rink. I don't 01:19:56.134 --> 01:20:02.895 - know how many people know, but Jill Watson, an Olympic medalist, started in Bloomington at the Frank 01:20:02.895 --> 01:20:03.966 - Southern Arena. 01:20:04.770 --> 01:20:12.351 - What I'd like to bring up though is we also need an interim plan. Our club is just recovering now from 01:20:12.351 --> 01:20:19.786 - COVID. The IU figure skating club almost dismantled and the current administration there has rebuilt 01:20:19.786 --> 01:20:27.220 - that club and it's shining. I love IU women's hockey and all the groups. If we don't have an interim 01:20:27.220 --> 01:20:34.654 - plan to keep figure skating going, all of these clubs will suffer. So we need both a short term plan 01:20:34.786 --> 01:20:43.164 - and a long-term plan. We need to do something to get that rink back open in the fall while exploring 01:20:43.164 --> 01:20:51.874 - the longer-term opportunities. And with the Evansville, Bloomington and IU were approached about getting 01:20:51.874 --> 01:20:59.838 - one of the minor league teams. And once again, IU said no. So that's all. All right. Thank you. 01:21:03.874 --> 01:21:11.219 - I think Amy and Claire kind of took a lot of the things that I was thinking of saying. I don't have 01:21:11.219 --> 01:21:19.005 - anything planned. My name is Jen Campanella, and I have been coaching with the Bloomington Figure Skating 01:21:19.005 --> 01:21:26.645 - Club since 2004. And I started heading the Learn to Skate program that we run in 2008 after my daughter 01:21:26.645 --> 01:21:33.182 - was born, 2009. But I've been involved with that ever since I moved back to Bloomington. 01:21:33.826 --> 01:21:42.099 - We have driven five days a week over to Columbus for my daughter to skate. It's super challenging for 01:21:42.099 --> 01:21:50.859 - families, but it's such a community. Our Learn to Skate program, the skating school, typically I anticipate 01:21:50.859 --> 01:21:59.213 - every year in the fall registration around 250 skaters, and in the winter we bump up to about 350. And 01:21:59.213 --> 01:22:02.782 - it helps when there are Olympics happening. 01:22:02.914 --> 01:22:10.075 - But to see the families and then at the end of the season Families in the skating school will come to 01:22:10.075 --> 01:22:17.095 - me and parents say so when is registration for the next? Session and I have to tell them in October 01:22:17.095 --> 01:22:24.116 - and The look on their faces when they're not really familiar with the rink But it's been amazing to 01:22:24.116 --> 01:22:29.662 - see the community stick together and continue moving forward with what we have 01:22:30.402 --> 01:22:38.973 - But I agree with everybody that has spoken already. I can't say it enough. This community is tight-knit, 01:22:38.973 --> 01:22:47.298 - I think. And I think that it has plenty of room to grow, if given the opportunity, and to become even 01:22:47.298 --> 01:22:55.624 - closer. So thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Any other public comments? Dylan, I'm going to 01:22:55.624 --> 01:22:59.134 - ask you to unmute yourself. Hi. Thank you. 01:22:59.682 --> 01:23:06.378 - My name is Dylan Frecken. I'm the current head coach of the IU women's club team. I've been a head coach 01:23:06.378 --> 01:23:13.137 - within the youth program for a number of years here in town, as well as the JV high school team recently. 01:23:13.137 --> 01:23:19.705 - And as I said, now the IU women's team. And yeah, I just want to chime in and agree with comments made 01:23:19.705 --> 01:23:26.082 - earlier specifically for the women's program. With the professional women's hockey league gaining a 01:23:26.082 --> 01:23:27.166 - lot of traction, 01:23:27.714 --> 01:23:33.714 - as well as the success we've seen with Team USA in the Olympics. Women's hockey, I would argue, has 01:23:33.714 --> 01:23:39.954 - never been more popular, speaking specifically for our team. We have more players who have reached out, 01:23:39.954 --> 01:23:46.134 - high school players who are wanting to come to IU, who have reached out about playing here next season 01:23:46.134 --> 01:23:52.254 - than we currently have on our roster today. Our goalie was a Division I commit at Penn State, who was 01:23:52.254 --> 01:23:56.574 - just in the Frozen Four this weekend, who currently plays for our team. 01:23:56.898 --> 01:24:03.760 - And I just think women's hockey, young girls in Bloomington and the state of Indiana, they deserve this 01:24:03.760 --> 01:24:10.885 - opportunity. They deserve this moment. The sport of hockey deserves this moment, deserves this opportunity. 01:24:10.885 --> 01:24:17.681 - And in my time with the Blades coming from Michigan where I had hockey rinks everywhere, the best word 01:24:17.681 --> 01:24:24.411 - I can describe the Bloomington hockey community is overachievers. The success that the Blades program 01:24:24.411 --> 01:24:26.654 - has seen is in spite of the rink. 01:24:26.882 --> 01:24:33.724 - And it's because of the families, the kids, the coaches, and the love for the sport. And it's time that 01:24:33.724 --> 01:24:40.434 - we give those families, those players, that community facility that they deserve, that they've wanted 01:24:40.434 --> 01:24:47.078 - for years to achieve the potential that they've always had. And as the coach of the women's program, 01:24:47.078 --> 01:24:53.788 - I'm really excited to be a part of that. And I'm just really grateful that this conversation is being 01:24:53.788 --> 01:24:55.038 - had. So thank you. 01:24:55.522 --> 01:25:05.426 - I'm excited for the future of hockey in Bloomington if we can all come together to do what's right. 01:25:05.426 --> 01:25:15.825 - Okay. Thank you, Dylan. All right. Any other online comments or in-person comments? Okay. Mia, I'm going 01:25:15.825 --> 01:25:23.550 - to ask you to unmute yourself, please. Hi. I was not prepared to speak today. 01:25:23.842 --> 01:25:31.131 - but I did wanna share a little bit about how important the Frank has been to me and my time in Bloomington. 01:25:31.131 --> 01:25:38.083 - I came here when I was around eight years old and I've been skating at the Frank ever since. I started 01:25:38.083 --> 01:25:45.305 - with the skating school and Jen was actually my first skating coach. So hi, Jen. And then I just continued 01:25:45.305 --> 01:25:52.190 - with the Bloomington Figure Skating Club and now I'm on the exec board of the IU Figure Skating Club. 01:25:52.386 --> 01:26:00.759 - Um, and I've watched this rink go through many seasons, but it's been set the home to me and I've built 01:26:00.759 --> 01:26:08.891 - so many friendships and such a hopeful community and a family. Um, we just recently had built our IU 01:26:08.891 --> 01:26:17.264 - figured team back up after COVID and started competing again. And we just got back from the competition 01:26:17.264 --> 01:26:19.518 - in Wisconsin. Um, and it's, 01:26:19.746 --> 01:26:30.680 - a really great environment and yeah, we definitely have a community that would benefit from a new rank 01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:38.430 - and yeah. All right. Thank you, Mia. All right. Any other comments? Yes. 01:26:38.914 --> 01:26:45.358 - I'm Sarah powers and I'm the president of the Bloomington blades youth hockey program and I just want 01:26:45.358 --> 01:26:51.802 - to share similar stories that everyone has about how we just love our ring and our community and It's 01:26:51.802 --> 01:26:58.120 - really time that we invest more in that resource this past year COVID hit us hard as well just like 01:26:58.120 --> 01:27:04.691 - it did the figure skating club and this past year my son actually had to play in Columbus for his final 01:27:04.691 --> 01:27:06.270 - year of youth hockey and 01:27:06.690 --> 01:27:14.001 - Because we just didn't have the players because the resource hasn't been there. So it's hard to grow 01:27:14.001 --> 01:27:21.384 - that community So I appreciate that you're giving this attention and support and I appreciate Tim and 01:27:21.384 --> 01:27:25.438 - Alec and Chris and all of their hard work. So Thank you 01:27:29.890 --> 01:27:36.385 - Wendy Westfall. I have three boys. They've all gone through the learn to skate program with Jen. He's 01:27:36.385 --> 01:27:42.943 - done a wonderful job my voice started the oldest is now 19 and joined the figure skating club and It's 01:27:42.943 --> 01:27:49.374 - just been a wonderful experience. He started when he was three I think and we've gone every year and 01:27:49.374 --> 01:27:55.550 - we love it I just wanted to echo what Claire said about needing an interim solution not that the 01:27:56.098 --> 01:28:02.242 - Rink is closed while a new one is being built because I agree that all that momentum would get lost 01:28:02.242 --> 01:28:09.000 - and when something is ended, it's very hard to get the momentum and start it up again and make it financially 01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:15.267 - feasible. So if there's a way that that can be continued. And I also agree with what others have said 01:28:15.267 --> 01:28:21.534 - that it would be nice to have something that's open year round. It's obvious why that's not possible. 01:28:21.730 --> 01:28:29.572 - And finally, also, I don't know how the logistics work with skating and renting the ice time, but it 01:28:29.572 --> 01:28:37.336 - does feel like there's a lot of competition for who has what hours on the ice. And if there's a way 01:28:37.336 --> 01:28:45.333 - to address that with a new facility, that would be wonderful too. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Any 01:28:45.333 --> 01:28:50.302 - other in-person comments this evening? Hi. My name's Amy Mason. 01:28:50.562 --> 01:28:59.853 - I've been coming to the rink for a long time with my three children. I have a son who's about ready 01:28:59.853 --> 01:29:09.144 - to graduate. He was with the Blades, and a son who is a rising senior who is highly concerned about 01:29:09.144 --> 01:29:18.528 - his senior year with the Blades. I have a question. So what happens from here? You see, this is such 01:29:18.528 --> 01:29:19.550 - a small... 01:29:20.674 --> 01:29:27.554 - Support here there. We've got we've got so much power Like we will help you like what what do we do 01:29:27.554 --> 01:29:34.571 - from here? And how are you going to use us because I mean, I'm ready like let's go. Let's build a new 01:29:34.571 --> 01:29:41.589 - rink We've been I mean all these people know and we've been talking about it for years, but what what 01:29:41.589 --> 01:29:45.854 - can we do? I want to know action. What can we do right now? I 01:29:47.266 --> 01:29:54.863 - Can we get some donations from all those people watch heated rivalry? Okay, all right Tim do you want 01:29:54.863 --> 01:30:02.311 - to answer what where do we go from here? I think you know public comment is not a Q&A as much but I 01:30:02.311 --> 01:30:09.982 - want you to know I'm happy to address a little bit of that in my closing remarks when we finish public 01:30:09.982 --> 01:30:14.302 - comment. I think thank you very much All right, yeah, yes 01:30:19.234 --> 01:30:23.609 - Hi, I also wasn't planning on this land speaking or having anything prepared, but my name is Danielle 01:30:23.609 --> 01:30:24.510 - shaper. I'm actually 01:30:24.706 --> 01:30:29.676 - Speaking on the last point about making sure that we only have a small fraction people represented here 01:30:29.676 --> 01:30:34.456 - I actually am a member of the roller derby team here in town I am a skater a coach and on the board 01:30:34.456 --> 01:30:39.331 - of directors for it And I just want to say that I moved here from a small town in New Mexico and I've 01:30:39.331 --> 01:30:44.301 - been at every County Council meeting there because we had issues with Space this summer the Bloomington 01:30:44.301 --> 01:30:49.224 - roller derby team is renting the Frank's ice arena for our home season And it's like we are so excited 01:30:49.224 --> 01:30:54.672 - to be able to have that opportunity my last league I've watched roller derby leagues time and time again collapse 01:30:54.672 --> 01:31:00.039 - And like and hadn't failed and not have a venue and so having a venue like this is extremely important 01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:05.406 - And I just want to say that there's a lot of support for having an ice rink that also has you know The 01:31:05.406 --> 01:31:07.230 - the ability to rent a concrete pad 01:31:07.586 --> 01:31:12.771 - Not only because you know the derby team here in town has been seeing a large amount of growth in the 01:31:12.771 --> 01:31:18.007 - last few years But I also want to say the opposite of sort of the multi-generational Legacy that we've 01:31:18.007 --> 01:31:23.345 - seen here I moved here in 2024 and the best thing about coming here is knowing that I had a roller derby 01:31:23.345 --> 01:31:28.428 - lead to Landon because we all know those who place team sports It's not just the sport you play but 01:31:28.428 --> 01:31:31.326 - the community you find in that right? So a few years ago 01:31:31.426 --> 01:31:36.486 - My mother got very sick. I had to clean out an entire house full of like decades of things and an entire 01:31:36.486 --> 01:31:41.304 - roller derby team Descended and helped me haul all that stuff out right an entire roller derby team 01:31:41.304 --> 01:31:42.750 - descended and helped me scrub 01:31:43.074 --> 01:31:47.225 - 50 years of nicotine off the walls can thing, right? I move here and I got an email from the roller 01:31:47.225 --> 01:31:51.501 - derby team saying we can help you unload You haul when I like the first day I was here that derby team 01:31:51.501 --> 01:31:55.818 - was unloading my truck and so forth with me And I just want to say the community find is very important 01:31:55.818 --> 01:32:00.094 - So this ice rink like they've said is not just these programs you see here There are other populations 01:32:00.094 --> 01:32:04.619 - too that really really care about it and I just want to thank you for again for your time and your attention 01:32:04.619 --> 01:32:07.774 - on this and because it is so important to so many of these communities that 01:32:07.842 --> 01:32:15.859 - Yeah, the last speaker said just a tiny fraction of the people that are affected by these and the community 01:32:15.859 --> 01:32:23.430 - that we see is Shown here today. So thank you so much for your time with this with this matter. Thank 01:32:23.430 --> 01:32:30.927 - you All right, any other online or in person Hi, my name is Scott coffin I was not prepared to speak 01:32:30.927 --> 01:32:35.678 - today as well, but I just wanted to say that I'm not a coach or 01:32:35.778 --> 01:32:41.978 - I'm not a parent. I'm not an organizer. I'm a participant I've played hockey since as long as I can 01:32:41.978 --> 01:32:48.179 - remember I learned how to escape before I learned how to read as I say often I'm also a Bloomington 01:32:48.179 --> 01:32:54.627 - bike polo participant. We're going to be using Frank Southern this summer And I just wanted to say that 01:32:54.627 --> 01:33:00.890 - the facility is very important to me And I hope that we can find an interim plan for the facility as 01:33:00.890 --> 01:33:02.750 - well. Thank you. Thank you. I 01:33:08.002 --> 01:33:15.915 - Is there anyone else online who would like to make a comment if so, please raise your hand icon Okay, 01:33:15.915 --> 01:33:23.906 - all right Well with that then we might go back to Tim Street for some to address the question of maybe 01:33:23.906 --> 01:33:31.742 - next steps Sure. Oh, first of all, I just want to thank everyone for being here tonight or for being 01:33:31.742 --> 01:33:36.862 - here online I always really appreciate when we get the public out 01:33:37.058 --> 01:33:42.389 - You know one of our main goals as a parks and Recreation Department is to enhance the quality of life 01:33:42.389 --> 01:33:47.720 - in Bloomington and have meaningful community impacts And I think we see that when the community comes 01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:53.051 - out and talks about What it is that's important to them this meeting is the ice arena, you know other 01:33:53.051 --> 01:33:58.329 - meetings We hear other aspects as well and it's always it's always really great to hear So as always 01:33:58.329 --> 01:34:03.921 - thank you for we always have to do our agenda before we get to the public comment so so thanks for sitting 01:34:03.921 --> 01:34:06.430 - through a slice of the Parks Department as well 01:34:06.626 --> 01:34:12.422 - Of course, we'll have our next park board meeting on April 16th, which is back to our normal time Which 01:34:12.422 --> 01:34:17.995 - is Thursday at 5 p.m. We're a little off our schedule this week because of spring break And you can 01:34:17.995 --> 01:34:23.624 - certainly come in person or give public comment again or tune in online to see what next steps there 01:34:23.624 --> 01:34:29.365 - might be I don't have really concrete next steps right now to offer other than to say we really wanted 01:34:29.365 --> 01:34:34.046 - to get this information out there and and work on it and explore these options, but 01:34:34.210 --> 01:34:40.349 - Certainly to anyone here tonight or anyone who catches wind of this later. We need the public engagement 01:34:40.349 --> 01:34:46.313 - Certainly and we'll have opportunities. You can reach out to myself To keto who's our sports director 01:34:46.313 --> 01:34:52.276 - to Chris or Alec at the arena? Or at the pools you might find there this summer when they they switch 01:34:52.276 --> 01:34:58.123 - to the other half of what they're doing But but more to come I think is really my next step now and 01:34:58.123 --> 01:35:01.982 - stay tuned and I really think we want to have a stakeholder group 01:35:02.626 --> 01:35:08.104 - Really explore the options that we've put in this report. So more to come on that In terms about just 01:35:08.104 --> 01:35:13.796 - my closing announcements for the end of the meeting I'll mention back to natural resources are prescribed 01:35:13.796 --> 01:35:19.166 - fire is happening at Griffey tomorrow Unless the weather changes significantly between now and then 01:35:19.166 --> 01:35:23.838 - so we're excited for the the natural resource enhancement happening out there tomorrow 01:35:23.970 --> 01:35:29.456 - We are really busy gearing up for a lot of events as you heard about the Grand Flume concert series 01:35:29.456 --> 01:35:34.942 - We're really excited about those concerts I would expect IU to start some heavy publicity for those 01:35:34.942 --> 01:35:40.976 - now that the partnership is is formalized and they can Make sure to finalize all the bookings and everything. 01:35:40.976 --> 01:35:46.517 - I know they've been been talking with some really exciting names for those concerts That I'm excited 01:35:46.517 --> 01:35:51.454 - to get out there The first weekend in April is coming up, but that's a big weekend for us 01:35:51.586 --> 01:35:57.574 - The Griffey Boathouse will open. It's the first food truck Friday It's the first Bloomington community 01:35:57.574 --> 01:36:03.621 - farmers market and parks will be tabling There and you can always come talk to us there as well There's 01:36:03.621 --> 01:36:09.551 - a dog egg hunt the dog park at switchyard that Saturday. So a lot of different things going on And of 01:36:09.551 --> 01:36:16.062 - course, we're excited to announce our performing arts series coming up soon with the new program guide in April 01:36:16.418 --> 01:36:22.596 - Through our publicity as well. So our next meeting will be April 16th We anticipate presenting the draft 01:36:22.596 --> 01:36:28.479 - master plan to the board That will that's obviously been wrapped up and will influence a lot of big 01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:34.893 - decisions We're making not just about the ice arena, but about other investments in financial sustainability 01:36:34.893 --> 01:36:40.894 - In what we have as well. So that said thank you for coming tonight, and we will see you all next time 01:36:41.826 --> 01:36:47.981 - Thank you very much to everyone who people spoke and people just came out to in support It really helps 01:36:47.981 --> 01:36:53.959 - us to see see that concern and that love that you have for the ice arena. So thank you and with that 01:36:53.959 --> 01:36:58.398 - I'll adjourn the Bloomington Board of Park Commissioners March meeting and