WEBVTT 00:00:00.130 --> 00:00:09.058 - Okay, it is five o'clock, so I will call to order the September meeting in the Bloomington Board of 00:00:09.058 --> 00:00:18.164 - Park commissioners and Molly will start us off please with the roll call. Yeah, Jim will let you hear 00:00:18.164 --> 00:00:27.092 - Kathleen Mills here. Okay, so we do not have Ellen this evening, but we do have a quorum. Um, so we 00:00:27.092 --> 00:00:29.502 - can move on from there and 00:00:30.050 --> 00:00:39.395 - First, as always, we have the consent calendar, which we usually take just all in one motion. Anybody 00:00:39.395 --> 00:00:48.740 - would like to move to approve that? Sure. I move to approve the consent agenda. Okay. Okay. And do we 00:00:48.740 --> 00:00:57.902 - need to do roll call voting or no, we don't because we have. Okay. So all those in favor. Aye. Aye. 00:00:57.902 --> 00:00:58.910 - All right. 00:00:59.106 --> 00:01:05.952 - Motion is carried then for the consent agenda. And then we get to section B the public hearings and 00:01:05.952 --> 00:01:12.798 - appearances. And first up is the Bravo Award which Emily will tell us about for Brandon Olson. Good 00:01:12.798 --> 00:01:19.780 - afternoon everyone. Emily boot community relations coordinator and I am happy to present Brandon with 00:01:19.780 --> 00:01:26.831 - the September Bravo Award. As many of you may remember Brandon is a former natural resources education 00:01:26.831 --> 00:01:29.022 - specialist with the department. 00:01:29.122 --> 00:01:34.438 - He was a regular at the Creek Station for Leonard Springs Nature Days, Bugfest, and other programs. 00:01:34.438 --> 00:01:39.807 - He also teamed up with me to volunteer coach four seasons of Bloomington Youth Basketball, which was 00:01:39.807 --> 00:01:43.422 - a simultaneously fun and challenging experience for the both of us. 00:01:43.682 --> 00:01:49.284 - While Brandon moved on from his paid role with the city in 2025 to take a role with the Cosco County 00:01:49.284 --> 00:01:54.942 - Soil and Water District He remained connected with parks from afar since moving on he has returned to 00:01:54.942 --> 00:02:00.710 - volunteer at Leonard Springs nature days Bugfest and a few nature programs, which is about a three-hour 00:02:00.710 --> 00:02:06.645 - drive each ways each way to attend We're very lucky to have had Brandon as a co-worker and now a volunteer 00:02:06.645 --> 00:02:10.750 - So I'm very happy to award him with this recognition. He's very deserving 00:02:12.578 --> 00:02:18.835 - He says hello to everyone. He couldn't make it but he says hi. OK. Yeah. And he's living where. Up in 00:02:18.835 --> 00:02:24.969 - Warsaw Kosciuszko County. OK. It's like our 15 ish from Fort Wayne. OK. Like right in the middle of 00:02:24.969 --> 00:02:31.349 - the state. So yeah he's Ed specialist with the soil and water district up there. So he has his own time 00:02:31.349 --> 00:02:37.176 - to volunteer here. He does come he's coming down on Saturday. So OK. He's getting his umbrella 00:02:37.176 --> 00:02:41.470 - and certificate then OK and specifically requested. So OK. All right. 00:02:42.658 --> 00:02:52.282 - Yes. Well thank you to Brandon and thanks Emily. Okay. And then in section C other business the first 00:02:52.282 --> 00:03:01.717 - resolution item one we're actually going to postpone I think until our next meeting if we. Yeah. If 00:03:01.717 --> 00:03:06.718 - everyone is in agreement with that. Okay. Yes. Okay. 00:03:07.170 --> 00:03:13.956 - And then item two is the agreement with native view for canopy expansion tree planting and that would 00:03:13.956 --> 00:03:20.743 - be Haskell. Good afternoon commissioners Haskell Smith urban foresters here to recommend the approval 00:03:20.743 --> 00:03:27.862 - of a contractual agreement with native view LLC for the twenty twenty six canopy expansion and replacement 00:03:27.862 --> 00:03:34.648 - project covering the installation of three hundred and twenty five trees all around Bloomington right 00:03:34.648 --> 00:03:35.646 - of ways. This. 00:03:36.354 --> 00:03:43.298 - There's likely the fifth and final phase of the bicentennial bond funding and an amount not to exceed 00:03:43.298 --> 00:03:50.174 - at ninety two thousand five hundred and fifty six dollars and fifty cents. This will bring the total 00:03:50.174 --> 00:03:56.982 - trees planted with contractually planted with the bicentennial fonts to about eleven hundred trees. 00:03:56.982 --> 00:04:04.062 - Not to say that we haven't bought and planted a lot of others. It's several thousand at that point. OK. 00:04:04.322 --> 00:04:13.173 - So a lot of tree work with those bonds. Any questions for Haskell. I move that we approve agreement 00:04:13.173 --> 00:04:22.468 - with native view for canopy expansion tree plant second. OK. And all those in favor. Aye aye. All right. 00:04:22.468 --> 00:04:31.762 - Motion carried. All right. And then Haskell also has the agreement with Ellington tree for the perennial 00:04:31.762 --> 00:04:33.886 - ash tree removal. Yeah. 00:04:35.298 --> 00:04:41.890 - Staff recommends approval of this agreement with jr Ellington tree experts covering the full tree removal 00:04:41.890 --> 00:04:48.233 - and stump grinding of 20 poor health and failing ash trees around Bloomington within the right-of-way 00:04:48.233 --> 00:04:54.949 - an amount not to exceed eighteen thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars eighty percent of this particular 00:04:54.949 --> 00:05:01.790 - part is covered by a grant from the Indiana Department of Natural Resources community and urban forest office 00:05:01.954 --> 00:05:10.604 - And this is just kind of an ongoing thing part of the grant. Okay, happy to answer any questions Any 00:05:10.604 --> 00:05:19.254 - questions for Haskell, okay move we approve the agreement with Ellington tree expert company for ash 00:05:19.254 --> 00:05:27.390 - tree removals Okay, and all those in favor aye Motion carried. Thank you Haskell. Thank you. I 00:05:27.810 --> 00:05:37.176 - Before we go on to see for could we do an actual motion on the postponement of? C1 and actually as you 00:05:37.176 --> 00:05:46.543 - and I talked we also need to postpone C7. Yes, I wondered if we needed Yeah that agenda. Okay, see one 00:05:46.543 --> 00:05:56.182 - and C7 to October, okay I move that we postpone and reschedule resolution 2604 honorary naming of Griffey 00:05:56.182 --> 00:05:57.182 - loop trail 00:05:58.178 --> 00:06:06.038 - And you can also add in number seven. We are also have to postpone. Okay, if we can, can we do those 00:06:06.038 --> 00:06:14.132 - in one says also move that we postpone item seven C seven approval of cemetery plot reclamation second. 00:06:14.132 --> 00:06:21.915 - Okay. And all those in favor. Aye. Aye. All right. Motion carried. Okay. And then now Rebecca Swift 00:06:21.915 --> 00:06:27.518 - will tell us about the agreement with REA for trades district planning. 00:06:27.810 --> 00:06:34.176 - Yes Rebecca Swift operations development division director here to recommend and really just show support 00:06:34.176 --> 00:06:40.602 - for this the city hiring REA to provide design services for enhancing enhancements to the trades district. 00:06:40.602 --> 00:06:46.668 - So really this is a project funded and being project management is all through ESD. But because some 00:06:46.668 --> 00:06:52.674 - of this redesign work will have impacts to the beeline crossing right here on Roger Street. We felt 00:06:52.674 --> 00:06:56.638 - it was best to make sure the board was aware and also in favor of 00:06:56.738 --> 00:07:04.252 - continuing to work with R.A. and E.S.D. on the trades district realignment and some additional enhancements 00:07:04.252 --> 00:07:11.627 - for the trail crossing there at Rogers some additional rework of the bike parking area and some landscape 00:07:11.627 --> 00:07:18.863 - works along that area. So while I'm not the project manager I'm happy to answer any questions you might 00:07:18.863 --> 00:07:26.238 - have. OK. Any questions for Rebecca. So move that we approve the agreement with R.E.A. for trade district 00:07:26.402 --> 00:07:35.170 - planning. All right. And all those in favor. Hi. All right. Motion carried. Thanks Rebecca. And then 00:07:35.170 --> 00:07:44.459 - item five is the agreement with ecological for invasive treatment and monitoring Mary Wells. Hi everybody. 00:07:44.459 --> 00:07:53.054 - Mary Wells here natural resources manager to propose the approval of an agreement with ecological. 00:07:53.250 --> 00:08:00.367 - for restoration services in twenty twenty six through twenty twenty seven kind of a multi approach agreement. 00:08:00.367 --> 00:08:07.161 - The amount is not to exceed eleven thousand three hundred and eighteen dollars. And under this agreement 00:08:07.161 --> 00:08:13.955 - Ecologic will perform various ecological restoration and consulting services from November twenty twenty 00:08:13.955 --> 00:08:16.478 - six through March twenty twenty seven. 00:08:17.762 --> 00:08:25.306 - These projects are a continuation and expansion of the work that Ecologic has performed for Bloomington 00:08:25.306 --> 00:08:32.561 - Parks and Restoration since 2016. The first project involves clearing an additional five point five 00:08:32.561 --> 00:08:38.654 - acres of invasive vegetation in the wetland areas at Griffey east of the boathouse. 00:08:39.298 --> 00:08:46.313 - To build upon the prior work they did in winter and summer of 2026 in which they cleared nine adjacent 00:08:46.313 --> 00:08:53.260 - acres to this new parcel that they're going to be clearing Egalogic will also work to remove invasive 00:08:53.260 --> 00:09:00.071 - and other an undesirable woody vegetation to main what we call early successional restoration areas 00:09:00.071 --> 00:09:04.158 - that Miller showers or switch our park over this winter and 00:09:04.866 --> 00:09:11.831 - Additionally they will provide monitoring and consulting services for the continued management of the 00:09:11.831 --> 00:09:18.659 - woodland understory areas at Griffey and Upper Cascades Park in which invasive woody vegetation has 00:09:18.659 --> 00:09:25.692 - been removed from the understory internally by park staff and volunteers Happy to answer any questions 00:09:25.692 --> 00:09:27.262 - Any questions for Mary 00:09:28.354 --> 00:09:37.912 - I move that we approve agreement with echo logic for invasive treatment and monitoring at Griffey Lake. 00:09:37.912 --> 00:09:47.102 - And all those in favor. I motion is carried. And then let's see. Mary also has the next one for the 00:09:47.102 --> 00:09:50.686 - prescribed burn monitoring at Griffey. 00:09:52.482 --> 00:09:59.527 - C6 yeah, so here to recommend approval board approval of this contract with ecologic under this agreement 00:09:59.527 --> 00:10:06.705 - Ecologic will perform vegetation management services prior to and after upcoming prescribed fire activities 00:10:06.705 --> 00:10:13.352 - at Griffey The total cost of this agreement is not to exceed seven thousand one hundred and seventy 00:10:13.352 --> 00:10:19.998 - dollars The monitoring project will take place and a proposed three point nine acre prescribed fire 00:10:20.290 --> 00:10:27.492 - Fire unit located southwest of the Griffey Causeway Data and information collected during this monitoring 00:10:27.492 --> 00:10:30.686 - will assist in decision-making and will affect 00:10:31.330 --> 00:10:37.340 - future prescribed fire activities at this site and potentially other sites monitoring where measure 00:10:37.340 --> 00:10:43.470 - the frequency and percent cover of herbaceous species in late spring of each year and then the poster 00:10:43.470 --> 00:10:49.781 - burn data will be taken during the twenty twenty eight growing season pending the completion of a twenty 00:10:49.781 --> 00:10:55.971 - twenty seven twenty twenty eight dormant season burn. Happy to answer any questions in regards to this 00:10:55.971 --> 00:10:59.998 - agreement. OK. And am I remembering correctly that there have been 00:11:00.290 --> 00:11:08.203 - prescribed burns out there before. Yeah this will be our fifth burn unit that we're considering but 00:11:08.203 --> 00:11:16.432 - we're kind of trying to move forward more with more intention. Hence the monitoring pre and post. Okay. 00:11:16.432 --> 00:11:24.662 - All right. All right. Move that we approve the agreement with echo logic for prescribed burn monitoring 00:11:24.662 --> 00:11:29.726 - at Griffey Lake. Second. Okay. And all those in favor. Aye aye. 00:11:29.922 --> 00:11:38.553 - Motion carried. Thank you Mary. And then Joanna Sparks has C8 the integrated pest management plan update. 00:11:38.553 --> 00:11:47.265 - Good afternoon Joanna Sparks urban green space manager here today to recommend the approval of the updated 00:11:47.265 --> 00:11:54.430 - version of the Bloomington Parks and Recreation Department integrated pest or IPM plan. 00:11:54.562 --> 00:12:02.347 - Our parks IPM plan was originally developed in 2016 to direct pest management activities for staff and 00:12:02.347 --> 00:12:10.057 - contractors on parks owned and or managed properties. The parks pesticide use policy number one three 00:12:10.057 --> 00:12:13.534 - one nine zero was used as a guiding document. 00:12:13.890 --> 00:12:22.439 - Our as part of the integrated press management plan we have a working group that has we've worked together 00:12:22.439 --> 00:12:30.429 - over the past few months to reformat the original document to meet federal accessibility standards. 00:12:30.429 --> 00:12:38.579 - So it can be not in a PDF form on the web so people can can use it more easily. Everyone. And we also 00:12:38.579 --> 00:12:42.654 - reviewed sections and updated a few things just to 00:12:43.266 --> 00:12:51.893 - make it more current staffing changes turnover late in positions updating positions and additions and 00:12:51.893 --> 00:13:00.351 - subtractions of pesticides on our approval sheet. And I could go on and on as you know. So just let 00:13:00.351 --> 00:13:09.147 - me know if you have any questions. I'll be happy to answer them. OK. So this had not been updated since 00:13:09.147 --> 00:13:11.262 - 2016 not officially. OK. 00:13:11.778 --> 00:13:21.923 - We because it is a living document as the IPM coordinator. I keep the pesticide List updated the department 00:13:21.923 --> 00:13:29.438 - approved list of pesticides up on an updated Excuse me ragweed is killing me. I 00:13:30.082 --> 00:13:38.572 - This week, but I also am responsible for tracking staff pesticide applications Which we also post on 00:13:38.572 --> 00:13:47.146 - our website is the chemical applications on the parks are available the day day of most generally and 00:13:47.146 --> 00:13:55.973 - when we do that and just ongoing adjustments to signage improvements for signage just yeah little little 00:13:55.973 --> 00:13:57.822 - things like that that 00:13:58.018 --> 00:14:06.921 - Our official but but help us keep moving into a more efficient and effective More clearly communicative 00:14:06.921 --> 00:14:15.567 - Way, yeah, okay All right. Great. Yeah, I always appreciate the sign so I don't walk my dogs through 00:14:15.567 --> 00:14:23.614 - the middle of the area Yeah, yep Dogs are very important. Yes Okay, any questions for Joanna? 00:14:24.386 --> 00:14:32.876 - Move that we approve integrated pest management plan updates. Okay. And all those in favor. Aye. 00:14:32.876 --> 00:14:41.628 - All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right. And then in our section D the reports first we have the 00:14:41.628 --> 00:14:50.468 - twenty twenty seven price schedule for our information not for a vote. And Molly is going to tell us 00:14:50.468 --> 00:14:51.518 - about that. 00:14:52.546 --> 00:14:58.504 - Office manager staff requests the board commissioners review the following fee changes for the 2027 00:14:58.504 --> 00:15:04.640 - season These fees will be updated based on board feedback and brought back for approval at the regular 00:15:04.640 --> 00:15:10.658 - October meeting of the board of park commissioners in the staff report It is listed just the changes 00:15:10.658 --> 00:15:12.862 - that are made from the 2026 the 2027 00:15:13.410 --> 00:15:22.436 - price fee schedule and then you can also see the attached proposed twenty twenty seven price schedule 00:15:22.436 --> 00:15:31.816 - which will show everything that is listed as a price. Any questions will be directed towards the director 00:15:31.816 --> 00:15:40.931 - of that area. Okay. And I appreciated the peer reports. There's some expensive golf on that sheet. Not 00:15:40.931 --> 00:15:42.878 - around here but yeah. 00:15:43.042 --> 00:15:48.515 - Yeah, that was very helpful to see so all right any we'll have this back again next month, 00:15:48.515 --> 00:15:54.769 - but any preliminary questions Okay, if the board does have questions, I mean we can of course entertain 00:15:54.769 --> 00:16:00.783 - them now or I mean I think it'd be helpful if you have things you want to email sent to us ahead of 00:16:00.783 --> 00:16:06.918 - time for next time if there's things you'd like to see elaborated or you're concerned about a certain 00:16:06.918 --> 00:16:10.526 - amount of increase in an area or what more justification as 00:16:10.658 --> 00:16:16.079 - Kathleen mentioned we did attempt to put in there a couple of those peer comparison tables for both 00:16:16.079 --> 00:16:21.771 - golf courses and aquatics because we know those are frequent ones That the board is really curious about 00:16:21.771 --> 00:16:27.463 - you know wanting to know where we stand in terms of other communities I'll mention in terms of aquatics. 00:16:27.463 --> 00:16:32.993 - We still have the fee waiver program continuing as well. That is Recently been supported by the Parks 00:16:32.993 --> 00:16:37.438 - Foundation and some private donations that we still need to work to recognize and 00:16:38.178 --> 00:16:44.524 - But yes we would welcome questions and if not now please let us know before the October meeting and 00:16:44.524 --> 00:16:50.998 - we will attempt to adopt this fee schedule at the October meeting because that is our deadline to get 00:16:50.998 --> 00:16:57.534 - the new fees into the program guide that will go out for the winter. OK. All right. Sounds good. Thank 00:16:57.534 --> 00:17:04.388 - you Molly and Tim. And then the second report this evening is a report on aquatics investment opportunities 00:17:04.388 --> 00:17:05.150 - from Quito. 00:17:07.970 --> 00:17:15.562 - Good afternoon, Satoshi Kiro, Sports Service Division Director. Racial Architect and Bloomington Parks 00:17:15.562 --> 00:17:22.934 - and Recreation signed a consultant agreement in June for a project involving evaluating Bryant Park 00:17:22.934 --> 00:17:30.452 - Pro and assessing how to renovate the facility and estimate cost for potential improvement, including 00:17:30.452 --> 00:17:34.654 - the bus house, accessibilities, the pump room, and more. 00:17:37.314 --> 00:17:46.112 - Before the Bryant Park Pool presentation by ratio, I would like to provide some updates on Mills Pool. 00:17:46.112 --> 00:17:55.081 - After delaying the opening of the pool for four weeks, we received more than 17,000 quotes from Landmark 00:17:55.081 --> 00:18:03.793 - to repair the leak at the Mills Pool in July. However, the leaking repair will not resolve all issues 00:18:03.793 --> 00:18:05.758 - at the aging facility. 00:18:06.690 --> 00:18:16.247 - After closing the pool for the season, we extended the investigation of the pool, not only for leaking, 00:18:16.247 --> 00:18:25.620 - but also checking performance of the mechanical room. Before contracting for repairs, we want to make 00:18:25.620 --> 00:18:34.718 - sure that the repairs will allow Mills Pool to safely open and operate for 2027 season and beyond. 00:18:36.578 --> 00:18:44.701 - These investigations are ongoing now and we will report back to the board soon hopefully October or 00:18:44.701 --> 00:18:52.906 - November meeting. Okay. Okay. Do you have any questions. Do you have any questions. No. Okay. No but 00:18:52.906 --> 00:19:01.029 - obviously Mills pool was able to open but you're just not convinced that all the problems have been 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:05.822 - solved over there. That is correct. Yeah. Okay. All right. 00:19:06.658 --> 00:19:17.084 - And at this time I would like to introduce Tommy Freiburn from ratio presenting existing conditions 00:19:17.084 --> 00:19:27.719 - and the future opportunities of Brian Parkpool. OK Tommy. That looks bad. That's a very thick packet. 00:19:27.719 --> 00:19:30.430 - Well OK. All right. Good. 00:19:31.266 --> 00:19:38.865 - Yeah, no, we do. I just thought that was like everything wrong with the pool Well, good afternoon like 00:19:38.865 --> 00:19:46.242 - keto said my name is Tommy freeborn I'm with ratio architects a landscape architect working on this 00:19:46.242 --> 00:19:53.840 - project for keto Tim in the Parks Department I wanted to give you guys a brief overview of where we're 00:19:53.840 --> 00:19:59.742 - at in this study. I'm gonna Oh awesome, man. You've got these cute up Molly and 00:20:00.962 --> 00:20:06.147 - So myself, I'm Tommy Freeborn. Like I said, I'm a project manager. John Jackson is in the room as well, 00:20:06.147 --> 00:20:11.283 - principal in charge on this project. So we are both representing Ratio today. A quick overview of what 00:20:11.283 --> 00:20:16.319 - we're here to talk about, a few welcome introductions obviously, but then really we want to get into 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:21.454 - the meat of the study. So there's a lot of information in that study that I think you'll find helpful. 00:20:21.454 --> 00:20:26.740 - We're just going to kind of hit the highlights today, give you kind of a summary of the executive summary 00:20:26.740 --> 00:20:30.878 - in there, go into the opportunities analysis, and then talk about budget and cost. 00:20:32.738 --> 00:20:38.646 - So the consultant team on this project is obviously us ratio and then we have an aquatics consultant 00:20:38.646 --> 00:20:44.496 - as well, which is WTI Oddly enough. They were the ones who renovated the facility about 20 so years 00:20:44.496 --> 00:20:50.814 - ago. So they're back With us this time and blundell associates is doing cost mating cost estimating as well 00:20:52.418 --> 00:20:57.926 - So a quick overview, you guys may be well aware this is your facility after all, but just in case you're 00:20:57.926 --> 00:21:03.173 - not, Bryan Park Pool was built in 1959. It was renovated again in the early 2000s as well as in the 00:21:03.173 --> 00:21:08.576 - 80s. So this is about in every, what we're seeing a lot in this industry is every 20 to 30 years these 00:21:08.576 --> 00:21:14.032 - facilities need renovated and need some upgrades. So that's kind of where we find ourselves today. What 00:21:14.032 --> 00:21:19.436 - we did is we looked at both documents and then we went out there and we looked at existing conditions. 00:21:19.436 --> 00:21:21.534 - We've been out to the site a few times. 00:21:21.698 --> 00:21:27.196 - We've also met with with keto and Tim and done a lot of Kind of interview process and to understand 00:21:27.196 --> 00:21:32.694 - more of what the community needs and what what what their needs are from an operation standpoint as 00:21:32.694 --> 00:21:38.577 - well And then we've we've sort of identified all of the key deficiencies the opportunities for improvement 00:21:38.577 --> 00:21:40.446 - and future investment as well and 00:21:42.594 --> 00:21:48.631 - So I'm just going to go through this executive summary here. Like I said, there's a lot of information 00:21:48.631 --> 00:21:54.609 - in that document. As you mentioned, it's a fairly large document. But really, the key highlights here 00:21:54.609 --> 00:22:00.645 - are the pool shell is actually in pretty good condition. A new liner was installed in 2024. The wading 00:22:00.645 --> 00:22:02.814 - pool is in slightly worse condition. 00:22:02.914 --> 00:22:09.147 - And it's currently being envisioned to become maybe a beach entry into the pool one day, possibly a 00:22:09.147 --> 00:22:15.504 - splash pad feature, something like that, as it's not seeing as much use. The mechanical room has some 00:22:15.504 --> 00:22:22.049 - mechanical equipment that needs upgraded, and then it has some flood concerns that we are investigating, 00:22:22.049 --> 00:22:28.469 - elevating equipment and upgrading equipment to mitigate those issues. In total, there's different ways 00:22:28.469 --> 00:22:31.710 - to look at this. We'll study this in a second here, 00:22:31.938 --> 00:22:38.885 - The deferred maintenance code requirement issues total to about half a million to $700,000. A full renovation 00:22:38.885 --> 00:22:44.126 - for the pool, just the aquatics component looks like a $2 to $2.3 million project. 00:22:44.962 --> 00:22:50.883 - The bath house is structurally sound, but it has a lot of space. I'll show you an exhibit here in a 00:22:50.883 --> 00:22:56.863 - second that communicates that point. There's a lot of real estate in there that I think was built at 00:22:56.863 --> 00:23:03.021 - a time where people behaved differently in bath houses than they do today. A lot of changing area space 00:23:03.021 --> 00:23:08.350 - in that bath house on both sides. It does have fewer fixtures than the current pool code. 00:23:08.642 --> 00:23:14.992 - Requires however, we have had a conversation with the State Department of Health and they have said 00:23:14.992 --> 00:23:21.595 - as long as you are not increasing the total surface area of Pool of water then we don't need to upgrade 00:23:21.595 --> 00:23:28.199 - or add any more We we don't need to add any new sanitary fixtures. So that's toilets and sinks and labs 00:23:28.199 --> 00:23:34.739 - And then the concessions building as well It's it's a fine building, but I think functionally it's not 00:23:34.739 --> 00:23:37.342 - doing the best for the concessions needs 00:23:39.042 --> 00:23:44.079 - So I wanted to look at the existing bathhouse layout with you real quick. The women's is on the right 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:49.017 - in purple, the men's is on the left. Obviously when you come into the facility, you check in at the 00:23:49.017 --> 00:23:54.203 - entry vestibule there and then you pick a direction. Again, this is something that we've seen facilities 00:23:54.203 --> 00:23:59.388 - kind of going away from as we've kind of progressed as a society and realized that you need more options 00:23:59.388 --> 00:24:04.376 - than just male and female. Not just gender neutral options, but individuals with disabilities in the 00:24:04.376 --> 00:24:08.030 - community that need a place to go and have a helper and things like that. 00:24:08.226 --> 00:24:14.141 - That doesn't really allow for that today From the guard office check-in is in the center of the of the 00:24:14.141 --> 00:24:20.056 - space there and there's some office space off the back of that to Then some mechanical and staff entry 00:24:20.056 --> 00:24:25.971 - as well If I'm going too quick or you guys have questions, feel free to jump in or we can pause at the 00:24:25.971 --> 00:24:31.886 - end So basically what we've done is like I said We've met with the Parks Department team here a couple 00:24:31.886 --> 00:24:37.054 - of times and talked about things that they're seeing as needs and functional deficiencies 00:24:37.218 --> 00:24:42.675 - And here's really the main priorities that we heard from the team here. So balancing operational and 00:24:42.675 --> 00:24:48.078 - functional needs with community impact was item number one. I think really not just looking at this 00:24:48.078 --> 00:24:53.751 - as an operational study, but a community impact improvement as well. And then obviously code requirement 00:24:53.751 --> 00:24:59.316 - deficiencies are right up there with it. That's obviously something we have to address if we find any. 00:24:59.316 --> 00:25:05.098 - The good news is that there aren't any code outside of that sanitary fixture count. The bath house doesn't 00:25:05.098 --> 00:25:05.854 - have any code 00:25:06.242 --> 00:25:12.206 - Required deficiencies and the State Department of Health has told us we don't need to fix those So the 00:25:12.206 --> 00:25:18.055 - pool has a couple of code issues that we're looking at the best ways to address but are fairly minor 00:25:18.055 --> 00:25:23.903 - And then we moving on down We talked about overall guest experience. We heard a lot about functional 00:25:23.903 --> 00:25:29.752 - capacity of the bathhouse and that space that's in there and then evaluating that waiting pool again 00:25:29.752 --> 00:25:33.342 - was a was a key kind of priority for the Parks Department and 00:25:34.850 --> 00:25:39.857 - So then we went out there. We've actually been out quite a few times. We've taken a lot of photos. We've 00:25:39.857 --> 00:25:44.673 - looked in and under different things. We've looked in the mechanical room quite a bit. And these are 00:25:44.673 --> 00:25:49.727 - the key things. There's a lot more in that document of things we observed, but these are the key findings 00:25:49.727 --> 00:25:54.686 - that we wanted to share with you. So the bathhouse building has an aging envelope. It's not surprising, 00:25:54.686 --> 00:25:59.502 - but there's moisture damage and things like that that are starting to appear. So that's clearly just 00:25:59.502 --> 00:26:01.982 - a deferred maintenance item that can continue to be 00:26:02.114 --> 00:26:08.095 - rehabbed and fixed the the interior space Reconfiguration could be really beneficial because of all 00:26:08.095 --> 00:26:14.315 - that extra space like I previously mentioned for different uses And the aquatics infrastructure feature 00:26:14.315 --> 00:26:20.475 - updates would really be a helpful Enhancement to the guest experience the pool itself. Like I said has 00:26:20.475 --> 00:26:23.166 - a new liner It seems to function really well 00:26:23.298 --> 00:26:29.092 - We do need to add another ADA accessible means of egress in and out of the pool But that's a really 00:26:29.092 --> 00:26:35.059 - simple and easy thing to accomplish with a lift or a stair or a railing addition to a stair So nothing 00:26:35.059 --> 00:26:41.142 - too major there So for as far as cost recommendations go we've sort of broken this down in two different 00:26:41.142 --> 00:26:46.936 - ways of thinking about it one is fix what's broken and the other one is a full renovation where you 00:26:46.936 --> 00:26:52.382 - really maximize the benefit to the community as well as the efficiencies and functions of the 00:26:52.546 --> 00:26:57.690 - the facility so You can see right there at the top the aquatics renovation if we were to just fix what's 00:26:57.690 --> 00:27:02.638 - broken We're looking at a half million to a million dollar project If that's if you fixed everything 00:27:02.638 --> 00:27:07.684 - and then if you went for a full renovation based on what we found in the study It would look more like 00:27:07.684 --> 00:27:12.583 - a two to three million dollar project again This isn't us asking you or telling you what we're what 00:27:12.583 --> 00:27:16.894 - we're proposing. This is just fact-finding is all and the bath the bathhouse renovation 00:27:17.506 --> 00:27:22.397 - If you were to just fix what's broken leave everything, you know, that's there just fix what what needs 00:27:22.397 --> 00:27:27.147 - fixed It's a fifty thousand to a hundred thousand dollar project But the bath house renovation if it 00:27:27.147 --> 00:27:32.084 - were a full renovation, we think is more like a one and a half to three million dollar project And those 00:27:32.084 --> 00:27:36.834 - are construction costs So those don't include soft costs and permitting and some contingency as well 00:27:36.834 --> 00:27:40.126 - because this is all a study and not the set of construction documents 00:27:42.882 --> 00:27:48.104 - So if you were to look at the whole facility and say, what's the cost of just doing everything? If you 00:27:48.104 --> 00:27:53.274 - wanna fix everything there, you wanna fully renovate it, not just fix it, not just keep what's there, 00:27:53.274 --> 00:27:58.547 - but really renovate it, maximize it, make it a brand new, feeling like a brand new facility. It's still 00:27:58.547 --> 00:28:03.920 - renovation, but feeling very new. This is what that would amount to, about a nine million dollar project. 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:09.598 - Again, not what we're here to ask for, not what we're proposing necessarily, just sharing the numbers with you. 00:28:09.730 --> 00:28:14.874 - And we have started to look, we're just in the early stages of looking at, okay, now we know all this 00:28:14.874 --> 00:28:20.068 - information, what would a phase one project look like? And this is kind of the breakdown of what we're 00:28:20.068 --> 00:28:25.212 - looking at there. Again, this hasn't been decided on or anything like that, but aquatics construction 00:28:25.212 --> 00:28:30.306 - could be around a million, a bathhouse construction could be 1.5. Site construction really refers to 00:28:30.306 --> 00:28:35.399 - that waiting pool and doing something with that and maybe making that a better experience, it's more 00:28:35.399 --> 00:28:36.862 - accessible to the community. 00:28:37.282 --> 00:28:42.888 - And then soft costs and contingencies are added here to where a total project budget for phase one could 00:28:42.888 --> 00:28:48.228 - be around four and a half million dollars. So one other thing I just wanted to show you was kind of 00:28:48.228 --> 00:28:53.728 - an orientation of the facility here. This is just, I don't know if how many of you are really familiar 00:28:53.728 --> 00:28:59.174 - with it. We do use a 3D modeling software, so this is our 3D model of the facility and the bath house 00:28:59.174 --> 00:29:01.630 - is right there coming off of the parking lot. 00:29:01.826 --> 00:29:08.569 - I believe that's woodlawn Avenue that pulls into the parking lot there just to orient you and then obviously 00:29:08.569 --> 00:29:14.755 - There's the main pool. It has three water slides that go into it The concessions building is off to 00:29:14.755 --> 00:29:21.313 - the page left with some outdoor dining area in front of that and then the waiting pool is kind of sitting 00:29:21.313 --> 00:29:27.499 - there between that concessions building and the bath house So with that I can take any questions oh 00:29:27.499 --> 00:29:31.582 - Well, thank you that was really interesting and comprehensive and 00:29:31.682 --> 00:29:37.568 - I mean, as Tim knows, I'm over at that pool pretty regularly. But I hadn't really connected the dots 00:29:37.568 --> 00:29:43.454 - that, yeah, this locker room environment is very of a different era. I mean, it seems like the trend 00:29:43.454 --> 00:29:49.340 - is towards private changing, private showering. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of people just 00:29:49.340 --> 00:29:55.168 - appreciate that. They don't use it for what it's worth. That working changing area just doesn't get 00:29:55.168 --> 00:29:57.790 - used. Yeah. And then also, I was interested. 00:29:58.306 --> 00:30:03.821 - I mean, I don't have little kids anymore. So that waiting area I didn't realize that we had some management 00:30:03.821 --> 00:30:09.080 - issues or maybe just wasn't the best experience Right. Yeah. Yeah, I think you know when you have that 00:30:09.080 --> 00:30:14.493 - depth of water that creates some some challenges Whereas you have when you have a splash pad or something 00:30:14.493 --> 00:30:19.701 - like that, you know, you don't have to have a lifeguard there all the time that's a maintenance thing 00:30:19.701 --> 00:30:24.909 - and more people can play in a thin sheet of water with sprays and Or feel comfortable playing in that 00:30:24.909 --> 00:30:28.126 - then they do with a natural body of water Yeah, the zero entry 00:30:28.354 --> 00:30:36.841 - Is great too. I mean I see people at other pools. I see quite a few people in wheelchairs that are able 00:30:36.841 --> 00:30:45.327 - to go right into the water from yeah, so Yeah, it's just 9 million Tim So any any questions or comments 00:30:45.327 --> 00:30:53.569 - for Tom it's Tommy right that's correct. Yeah, no questions for me an interesting report and I think 00:30:53.569 --> 00:30:56.670 - we'll have to look into and deal with 00:30:58.018 --> 00:31:08.072 - Thank you. All right, thank you very much. I have a question, actually. So with these grades, poor, 00:31:08.072 --> 00:31:17.423 - fair, so we don't have any very good and any excellent in the site, as you could see? Sorry, 00:31:17.423 --> 00:31:26.974 - say that again. We have only grades for fair, poor, and good, but we don't have any above. Oh. 00:31:27.074 --> 00:31:34.573 - Well, I guess yeah, that's just our system you guys have a lot of things that are good which means they 00:31:34.573 --> 00:31:41.783 - don't need addressed You know, they're in good operational order You could call them excellent. You 00:31:41.783 --> 00:31:49.065 - could call them good. But yeah That's just the system we used Okay, so in the regarding the slides a 00:31:49.065 --> 00:31:52.382 - so for a situation like these with the slides 00:31:52.482 --> 00:31:58.229 - Yeah. The suggestions is just repairing some of the slides or? Correct. We're recommending a refurbishment 00:31:58.229 --> 00:32:03.600 - of the finish on the slides, but structurally they look to be sound. The slides themselves function 00:32:03.600 --> 00:32:09.132 - well. There might be some minor mechanical equipment as we dive into it deeper to see that there might 00:32:09.132 --> 00:32:14.503 - be some upgrades that need there, but the slides we think add a lot of value. Now, if the community 00:32:14.503 --> 00:32:19.874 - tells us otherwise or Tim thinks there's one that should be replaced with something else, we're all 00:32:19.874 --> 00:32:20.894 - ears, but we think 00:32:21.026 --> 00:32:29.160 - That's one of the things this facility is really known for is the slides and they seem to be only in 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:37.375 - need of a refurbished finish not necessarily a full replacement for the waiting I believe the waiting 00:32:37.375 --> 00:32:45.429 - there is one that you suggest just to get rid of it. There is an area that is is not seen as usable 00:32:45.429 --> 00:32:46.718 - like useful for 00:32:47.010 --> 00:32:52.293 - Yeah, I think that's the waiting pool that you're referring to Yeah, and that's the one that we've we've 00:32:52.293 --> 00:32:57.375 - seen less and less use of that type of a facility That's industry-wide. I would say, you know, we're 00:32:57.375 --> 00:33:02.458 - doing one of these facilities. It's very similar in Terre Haute right now And that's that's the type 00:33:02.458 --> 00:33:07.640 - of thing that we're just seeing less and less use on So that's where we're recommending there are some 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.974 - mechanical Needs with that to repair it as well. I think there's a leak that we've that's been identified 00:33:12.974 --> 00:33:16.446 - in there So that's the one that we're suggesting could be repurposed 00:33:17.346 --> 00:33:28.415 - space really I Would take one very out It's not uncommon at all what you have is very common across 00:33:28.415 --> 00:33:39.484 - the state I think a lot of municipalities have facilities that were built in the 80s Some are built 00:33:39.484 --> 00:33:40.702 - in the 60s 00:33:40.802 --> 00:33:48.390 - And they get renovated about every 20 to 30 years to keep them going Some some municipalities are closing 00:33:48.390 --> 00:33:55.764 - a lot down just because of the the fact that they are a lot of maintenance Required and lifeguards are 00:33:55.764 --> 00:34:03.209 - hard to find these days, too. So yeah, this is I would say you're Yes, it's old, but it's not uncommon. 00:34:03.209 --> 00:34:06.430 - Yes Thank you, thank you All right, and then 00:34:06.818 --> 00:34:14.385 - In our next section we have public comment if there's any I See only no known faces there so no one 00:34:14.385 --> 00:34:21.650 - is online online. Okay. All right, and then Tim do you have anything to Add for us. Yeah. Well, 00:34:21.650 --> 00:34:29.520 - first of all, I want to thank our guests today for coming down and making this report in person I think 00:34:29.520 --> 00:34:33.758 - it's really nice to hear from them. I've been kind of a 00:34:34.562 --> 00:34:40.690 - second-hand participant firsthand in some cases and I think it's really good that we're engaging in 00:34:40.690 --> 00:34:46.818 - this type of study As keto talked about we're also being conscientious about mills pool We feel and 00:34:46.818 --> 00:34:53.007 - in talking with ratio a lot of the costs that we identify for Brian you could easily say if you want 00:34:53.007 --> 00:34:57.726 - to do a comparable thing over here, it's going to be a comparable number and 00:34:57.826 --> 00:35:05.450 - So as we work towards our special meeting next week on our investment priorities plan Which is basically 00:35:05.450 --> 00:35:12.930 - a follow-up step to our master plan About how we will want to invest our capital dollars in the coming 00:35:12.930 --> 00:35:17.214 - years this is a great report to have to give us a sense of 00:35:17.698 --> 00:35:24.132 - Okay, maybe we can't dedicate nine million right now, but we feel like we can make an effective renovation 00:35:24.132 --> 00:35:30.266 - at that four and a half to five million mark. This is informing our budgeting, so we're not having to 00:35:30.266 --> 00:35:36.279 - just pick a number. And from there, we could move into an actual concept design phase two and start 00:35:36.279 --> 00:35:42.413 - to really hone in on what we wanna do there. So just a few announcements before we go. We do have the 00:35:42.413 --> 00:35:46.622 - special meeting next Monday. It will be 5.30 p.m. at Switchyard Park. 00:35:46.818 --> 00:35:52.733 - Actually, there was a press release that went out shortly before this meeting that Julie sent out that 00:35:52.733 --> 00:35:58.476 - has The priority investment plan in it. So that is now out to the public you all have that I have a 00:35:58.476 --> 00:36:04.390 - hard copy here for you that you can take home as well We are open to any questions or feedback on that 00:36:04.390 --> 00:36:10.363 - as well as the price schedule, of course, which you have in hand now between now and either of the next 00:36:10.363 --> 00:36:15.646 - two meetings are our special September 28th meeting or the regular October 15th meeting and 00:36:16.130 --> 00:36:22.032 - Where we will look to approve the fee schedule. So the 28th meeting we will present this report and 00:36:22.032 --> 00:36:28.407 - it is intended to be a chance to get feedback from the board about this report to answer questions publicly 00:36:28.407 --> 00:36:34.427 - And to have public comments if people cannot make that meeting which will also be on cats We will not 00:36:34.427 --> 00:36:40.329 - have a zoom option, but it will be on cats We will also have an online comment form available after 00:36:40.329 --> 00:36:44.638 - the meeting so we can hear from the public that way as well on this plan 00:36:45.954 --> 00:36:51.664 - The plan has recommendations and then a whole heck of a lot of what we're trying to put in there as 00:36:51.664 --> 00:36:57.601 - supporting information Just so the board and the public can all see Usage numbers cost recovery numbers 00:36:57.601 --> 00:37:03.311 - all the various factors that we have to consider when doing all this so importantly You know, we've 00:37:03.311 --> 00:37:09.420 - been working with the office of the controller on this report with an eye towards issuing an album general 00:37:09.420 --> 00:37:15.358 - obligation bond through the park board in 2027 the statutory remonstrance limit on that was going to be 00:37:15.554 --> 00:37:21.873 - Around seven point one million dollars in projects And then just last week we had news that there is 00:37:21.873 --> 00:37:28.755 - a massive Grant program funded by the lily endowment going out through the Indiana community parks initiative 00:37:28.755 --> 00:37:35.386 - with 400 million available in funding for municipal park agencies across the state so that really changes 00:37:35.386 --> 00:37:41.705 - the landscape in a positive way, you know, it's a it's a wrench in the works of what we were working 00:37:41.705 --> 00:37:43.582 - on but a very good wrench and 00:37:43.874 --> 00:37:49.957 - And so we're really happy to be considered for that opportunity to be invited to apply we're gonna work 00:37:49.957 --> 00:37:55.806 - on that we have to have a planning grant ready for that by the end of October and an implementation 00:37:55.806 --> 00:38:01.713 - grant by the summer next summer so the idea that we were maybe going to pursue a geo bond early next 00:38:01.713 --> 00:38:07.854 - year after completing this report is it's kind of out the window with this news because we want to apply 00:38:07.854 --> 00:38:13.118 - for the grant and see Okay, one of these projects are now a fit for the grant application 00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:19.065 - One of them are maybe a better fit for municipal bond maintenance type thing So going ahead and having 00:38:19.065 --> 00:38:24.823 - our meeting next week on the 28th will be really great to get that feedback To continue to inform how 00:38:24.823 --> 00:38:30.581 - we're going to approach these two funding opportunities which can do a lot of good For all the things 00:38:30.581 --> 00:38:36.734 - we've been talking about our aging facilities the pools all the other things we're trying to take care of so 00:38:37.346 --> 00:38:42.532 - In just some other general announcements, I'll give an update. The sycamore shelter, we've had some 00:38:42.532 --> 00:38:47.719 - questions of, hey, what's going on with the sycamore shelter? As you know, it was smashed by a very 00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:53.009 - large tree back in May, and our ops division and Rebecca have been working with Tabor Bruce on coming 00:38:53.009 --> 00:38:58.248 - up with a plan on how to restore it so we can get that funded through insurance. That plan is coming 00:38:58.248 --> 00:39:03.486 - together, so I know we're hoping in the next month or two to have that plan and bid that work out to 00:39:03.486 --> 00:39:04.990 - repair the sycamore shelter. 00:39:05.858 --> 00:39:11.495 - The ice arena is soft opened right now. The official opening will be with the start of October So staff 00:39:11.495 --> 00:39:17.024 - have worked really hard and you heard that report last month about all the action steps. They've been 00:39:17.024 --> 00:39:22.499 - taking to make sure We are opening and taking that all the safety steps. We need to take to maintain 00:39:22.499 --> 00:39:28.136 - that safely And we hope to come back to you soon with Mills pool and then just a few more events coming 00:39:28.136 --> 00:39:33.502 - up We just finished up glow weekend. We've got youth day at the market coming up this Saturday and 00:39:33.634 --> 00:39:40.167 - We continue Tuesday markets for two more Tuesdays those wrap up at the end of September for the year 00:39:40.167 --> 00:39:46.830 - Bugfest which we collaborate with a bunch of other agencies on is this Saturday at karst the following 00:39:46.830 --> 00:39:53.363 - Saturday October 3rd urban forestry is doing This would be interesting a simulcast sibling city tree 00:39:53.363 --> 00:40:00.090 - planting with Palo Alto At noon in RCA Park and then after that is the trick-or-treat trail at RCA Park 00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:03.518 - so come for the tree planting stay for the candy and 00:40:03.714 --> 00:40:09.231 - and The only other thing I'll put on your radar is October is also a busy event Season for our event 00:40:09.231 --> 00:40:14.912 - staff and one of the first ones of those will be dearly departed on the 10th with other spooky and good 00:40:14.912 --> 00:40:20.430 - events to come afterwards like the pumpkin launch and skate and scare and some other things so Thank 00:40:20.430 --> 00:40:25.892 - you so much for your time tonight and we look forward to seeing you at switch yard park next Monday 00:40:25.892 --> 00:40:31.410 - All right. Thank you Tim. And with that I'll adjourn this September meeting in the Bloomington Board 00:40:31.410 --> 00:40:32.830 - of Park commissioners and