WEBVTT 00:00:00.482 --> 00:00:07.991 - Okay, I'm going to call to order the October meeting of the Bloomington Board of Park commissioners 00:00:07.991 --> 00:00:15.500 - and Molly, could you start us please with the roll call? Israel Herrera Jim Whitlatch here Kathleen 00:00:15.500 --> 00:00:23.235 - Mills here Ellen rocky here Okay. All right. We do have all four of our members this evening and first 00:00:23.235 --> 00:00:29.918 - step we always have the consent calendar, which is our minutes from the last meeting and 00:00:30.082 --> 00:00:39.357 - claims, non-reverting budget items, business reports, credit card refunds, and the surplus this month 00:00:39.357 --> 00:00:48.542 - is some AV technology from the early 90s that is being finally sent to the trash. Okay. Then we have 00:00:48.542 --> 00:00:57.635 - some smaller service agreements. Do we have a motion to approve the consent calendar? Second. Okay. 00:00:57.635 --> 00:00:59.454 - All those in favor? 00:01:00.386 --> 00:01:11.653 - Motion is carried to approve the consent calendar Then we move on into section B for our public hearings 00:01:11.653 --> 00:01:22.383 - and appearances. We have a staff intro from Caitlin O'Reilly O'Neill fellow Hello everyone, my name 00:01:22.383 --> 00:01:24.958 - is Caitlin O'Reilly I'm 00:01:25.346 --> 00:01:32.008 - senior in my undergraduate study at IU and I'm studying environmental and sustainability studies and 00:01:32.008 --> 00:01:38.671 - geography with a minor in public and environmental affairs and I moved to Bloomington four years ago 00:01:38.671 --> 00:01:43.486 - for my freshman year from Phoenix, Arizona and since then I've worked as 00:01:43.586 --> 00:01:53.199 - Sustainability psychology researcher and an environmental services intern for a civil engineering company 00:01:53.199 --> 00:02:02.540 - But this year I'm enrolled in the O'Neill leadership program, which has placed me with the urban green 00:02:02.540 --> 00:02:11.790 - space team here at Parks and Rec So I'm super excited to be working with everyone this year Okay, all 00:02:11.790 --> 00:02:13.150 - right and then 00:02:13.570 --> 00:02:21.913 - Next we will move to Section C other business. And first up we have resolution 26 dash 0 4 which is 00:02:21.913 --> 00:02:30.924 - the honorary naming of the Griffey Loop Trail for less coin. And Tim you're going to take this one evening. 00:02:30.924 --> 00:02:35.262 - Park commissioners Tim Street parks director. I am. 00:02:35.426 --> 00:02:41.284 - Back tonight with a resolution regarding the honorary naming that we discussed two meetings ago that 00:02:41.284 --> 00:02:47.258 - was introduced through the third party letter received from Mary Catherine Carmichael and Micron Eisen 00:02:47.258 --> 00:02:53.232 - that was read and shared with the board. We heard discussions, we heard general support from the board 00:02:53.232 --> 00:02:59.090 - about renaming the Griffey Loop Trail. I'm gonna read a little bit from the resolution and then just 00:02:59.090 --> 00:03:00.830 - close with a couple comments. 00:03:00.930 --> 00:03:07.085 - Whereas park policy 13010 creates guidelines for the honorary naming of parks And whereas a nomination 00:03:07.085 --> 00:03:13.479 - was submitted to the board of park commissioners to rename the Griffey loop trail as the less coin Griffey 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:19.753 - loop trail and Whereas less coin served with distinction on the board of park commissioners for 44 years 00:03:19.753 --> 00:03:25.310 - from 1976 to 2020 where his leadership contributed to the department's growth and health and 00:03:25.602 --> 00:03:31.553 - and whereas his contributions led to the development of many parks and facilities, including the Beeline 00:03:31.553 --> 00:03:37.390 - Trail, Jackson Creek Trail, Clear Creek Trail, Bloomington Rail Trail, Cascades Park Trail, Switchyard 00:03:37.390 --> 00:03:40.734 - Park, Twin Lakes Recreation Center, Alcott Park, and more. 00:03:40.962 --> 00:03:46.686 - And whereas less coin was on the board of park commissioners when the 2018 bicentennial bond was issued 00:03:46.686 --> 00:03:52.244 - which included the project to improve the Griffey Lake loop trail. Therefore be it resolved that the 00:03:52.244 --> 00:03:57.858 - board of park commissioners that the honorary name of the less coin Griffey loop trail be adopted and 00:03:57.858 --> 00:04:03.582 - memorialized in signage and official documents. That is the content of the resolution. I know we heard. 00:04:03.842 --> 00:04:09.317 - you know, much more to meetings ago. We had this great presentation about some of the contributions 00:04:09.317 --> 00:04:14.902 - and less is leadership. I know board members, many of you served along with less on the board of park 00:04:14.902 --> 00:04:20.761 - commissioners. I came in right at the transition point. I started January, 2021 and less was done December 00:04:20.761 --> 00:04:26.401 - of 2020. So we interacted and I've had great experiences with him through the parks foundation through 00:04:26.401 --> 00:04:30.398 - his continuing involvement there and wholeheartedly support this naming. 00:04:31.138 --> 00:04:37.618 - If the board approves this tonight, we will work on an implementation plan over the winter here to get 00:04:37.618 --> 00:04:44.162 - some signage up, both recognizing the completion of the Griffey Lake Loop Trail project in general from 00:04:44.162 --> 00:04:50.516 - the 2018 bond, as well as the naming and all the things that go along with that, and then we'll find 00:04:50.516 --> 00:04:56.871 - an appropriate time to gather and celebrate that contribution and that naming. Okay, thank you, Tim. 00:04:56.871 --> 00:05:01.086 - Yeah, I was, when I first came onto the board, Les was invaluable. 00:05:01.218 --> 00:05:07.613 - Just sort of smoothing the way and telling me what things to look for and as we mentioned to is a two 00:05:07.613 --> 00:05:14.259 - meetings ago It's really appropriate for a trail to be named for him because he was excellent at outreach 00:05:14.259 --> 00:05:20.780 - on trails And it's incredible when you read that list of all of the things that in his tenure It's kind 00:05:20.780 --> 00:05:27.614 - of hard to quantify but yeah many many things that people know and appreciate about parks came from less and 00:05:32.866 --> 00:05:41.522 - I also I got to Less was sort of my mentor during like the first six months. I was on the board before 00:05:41.522 --> 00:05:50.010 - he rotated it off. So super special So I'll make a motion that we approve the resolution to name the 00:05:50.010 --> 00:05:58.498 - Griffey Lake loop trail after less coin and also say that I came to Bloomington in 1981 to go to law 00:05:58.498 --> 00:05:59.422 - school and 00:05:59.554 --> 00:06:07.693 - And at that time less had already been on the parks board for five years. And as I've spent my life 00:06:07.693 --> 00:06:16.158 - in Bloomington less was the parks department. Whenever you heard about the parks it was about less and. 00:06:16.322 --> 00:06:23.335 - As far as I'm concerned, we could name everything in the parks after Les Coyne and would be appropriate. 00:06:23.335 --> 00:06:30.147 - And I can think of nothing more appropriate than to have this naming opportunity for him. When I came 00:06:30.147 --> 00:06:36.825 - on the board, I was thinking that I'm gonna be just like Les Coyne. So it's quite an honor and it's 00:06:36.825 --> 00:06:43.504 - quite an honor for me to serve where Les served and he's done so many wonderful things for us. So I 00:06:43.504 --> 00:06:45.374 - wholeheartedly and strongly 00:06:45.474 --> 00:06:56.976 - Support this resolution and as I said, I second the resolution All right, and all those in favor, please 00:06:56.976 --> 00:07:08.368 - say aye aye All right motion carried. All right. Excellent. All right. Yeah Yeah Thank you for bringing 00:07:08.368 --> 00:07:14.174 - it to us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Okay, and then from there 00:07:14.338 --> 00:07:21.781 - Haskell in item c2 will tell us about the tree appeal for 920 South Manor Road Good evening board of 00:07:21.781 --> 00:07:29.372 - park commissioners Haskell Smith urban forester Bring into you tonight a appeal of tree removal By the 00:07:29.372 --> 00:07:36.742 - staff recommends that this appeal be denied on several of the following grounds the location of the 00:07:36.742 --> 00:07:43.006 - volunteer tree is in direct violation of several sections of city code most of which 00:07:43.874 --> 00:07:50.896 - relate to vision clearance triangle. But another one is about it being a small statue tree planted within 00:07:50.896 --> 00:07:58.050 - 50 feet of an intersection. This particular tree that you can see up on the screen was brought to attention 00:07:58.050 --> 00:08:04.807 - via complaint. You report I believe that it was growing into the road. And I think that's what got me 00:08:04.807 --> 00:08:12.094 - there. Upon arrival I noticed that it looks like it's encroaching on CBU stormwater infrastructure and indeed 00:08:12.642 --> 00:08:20.925 - Was blocking the site and growing into the load. So instead of trying to prune it it was I marked it 00:08:20.925 --> 00:08:29.126 - for removal shortly thereafter A resident sent me an email Appealing appealing this decision. I Did 00:08:29.126 --> 00:08:37.327 - include the documents and a PDF of the email I looked at looking at it now. It looks like it didn't 00:08:37.327 --> 00:08:41.182 - quite format great. So I'm happy to answer the 00:08:41.474 --> 00:08:49.498 - Any questions or more details if needed? Okay Thanks. Yeah, I just by chance I walked my dogs over there 00:08:49.498 --> 00:08:57.446 - this morning and Saw that it had the marker on it. And yeah, it's it's not there's not a whole lot left 00:08:57.446 --> 00:09:05.164 - over there and it's kind of squeezed by the concrete and I mean that some of the leaves are off now, 00:09:05.164 --> 00:09:10.590 - but as I could definitely see when it's in full bloom that it would be 00:09:10.722 --> 00:09:18.819 - block some of the driver view there. And there's just not a lot left to it at this point. It doesn't 00:09:18.819 --> 00:09:26.836 - look pretty doesn't look very robust. So any other questions for Haskell individual who's appealing 00:09:26.836 --> 00:09:35.254 - it here or speaking to. I did remind them earlier this today about tonight's meeting. They do not appear 00:09:35.254 --> 00:09:38.942 - to be here. I don't have any other questions. 00:09:42.786 --> 00:09:51.406 - Okay, oh I do see the letter here Now it sounds like a couple of kids who are in the neighborhood They 00:09:51.406 --> 00:10:00.109 - part of their appeal was it provides shade. It's a good climbing tree. It's very pretty in early spring 00:10:00.109 --> 00:10:08.478 - It still has a long time to live and Benny the dog pees there every day My dogs peed on it as well. 00:10:08.478 --> 00:10:11.742 - So it's it's popular for that but Yeah 00:10:12.098 --> 00:10:20.062 - But maybe, maybe there's a better tree that can do it. Yeah, and the appeal, however it said, requested 00:10:20.062 --> 00:10:27.720 - that we prune the tree and preserve it in place. But after a short discussion with CBU, if any work 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:35.454 - is done to that culvert, it will be removed at some point either way out of both of our hands there. 00:10:35.714 --> 00:10:44.055 - So it's really for a long time I offered to plant a multi-stem red bud along their residents. Okay, 00:10:44.055 --> 00:10:52.395 - so maybe that's where it goes from here. I'm uncertain If there was any chance for them to you know 00:10:52.395 --> 00:10:54.814 - request another tree or yeah 00:10:55.138 --> 00:11:01.403 - We have so many programs for trees. I mean, I'm always looking to put more trees in the ground. Manor 00:11:01.403 --> 00:11:07.668 - Drive was targeted by Centennial 3. We got several in there. Their particular residence was missed at 00:11:07.668 --> 00:11:13.871 - their discretion. So I'm happy to loop back around to that one and plant a multi-stem redbud if they 00:11:13.871 --> 00:11:20.075 - would like. Yeah, that's great. And thanks, Haskell. Yeah, I think that would be excellent. And also 00:11:20.075 --> 00:11:24.190 - appreciate that Maya and Simone wrote in with their appeals. Yeah. 00:11:25.730 --> 00:11:36.142 - Okay. Other questions. I would make a motion then to deny this appeal. Second. Okay. And all those in 00:11:36.142 --> 00:11:46.554 - favor. Aye. Okay. Motion has carried. Thank you Haskell. Thank you. And then in C3 Amy land back land 00:11:46.554 --> 00:11:55.230 - land back land back lion back. Okay. Has the approval of cemetery plot reclamations. 00:11:56.002 --> 00:12:05.291 - Good evening, Amy line back operations coordinator and administrator of Rose Hill and White Oak cemeteries 00:12:05.291 --> 00:12:14.060 - in our recent policies We have a new section that allows us to reclaim plots that have not been used 00:12:14.060 --> 00:12:22.741 - For 50 years so they were purchased and and then not used for 50 years we have put in the newspaper 00:12:22.741 --> 00:12:23.870 - this list of 00:12:23.970 --> 00:12:31.652 - plots and said for anyone to come forward to contact me. My information is there for them to contact 00:12:31.652 --> 00:12:40.094 - me. So if anyone has claims to these plots, they are more than welcome to get in touch and we will be happy to 00:12:40.354 --> 00:12:47.406 - put together new information, a new deed for them. But we do believe that these are basically abandoned 00:12:47.406 --> 00:12:54.389 - and are just going to be unused. And we have a long waiting list of people who would love to be buried 00:12:54.389 --> 00:13:01.170 - at Rose Hill Cemetery. So I recommend that we move forward with the legal process of reclaiming the 00:13:01.170 --> 00:13:02.526 - included list of 32 00:13:02.658 --> 00:13:10.241 - plots for sale. The list is in the packet materials for this meeting, so anyone's welcome to access 00:13:10.241 --> 00:13:16.990 - that. I won't read out all the 32 plots unless someone really wants me to. And they have 00:13:17.090 --> 00:13:24.441 - Anyone who has an interest in these has until November 12th at 5 PM, which is this next meeting of the 00:13:24.441 --> 00:13:31.720 - board. I will be back here to say, OK, I have not heard from anyone. This is the final notice, and we 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:39.285 - will then own those spaces. So between now and then, if anyone has a right to the spaces, they're welcome 00:13:39.285 --> 00:13:44.638 - to come forward. And that would be the deadline. Any questions? All right. 00:13:45.250 --> 00:13:53.530 - Or when when these are we how are those plots transferred? Are there is there a deed or what it kind 00:13:53.530 --> 00:14:01.811 - of document is it? We yes, it would be a deed but we don't need a deed to own them. So We don't need 00:14:01.811 --> 00:14:10.173 - to do anything to reclaim them on our end But when we sell them again, we'll reissue it or they issue 00:14:10.173 --> 00:14:14.846 - a new deed for those to the new owners This by ordinance 00:14:15.106 --> 00:14:22.498 - Eliminate shows that that deed was abandoned and now we issue a new deed to a new purchase. Yes And 00:14:22.498 --> 00:14:30.185 - how long is the waiting list? I think we have about 25 people right now 25. Mm-hmm. So this should fill 00:14:30.185 --> 00:14:37.576 - that Well, some people want to buy multiple plots. So but it's a good start so and there's I'm sure 00:14:37.576 --> 00:14:39.646 - there's some people who are 00:14:39.746 --> 00:14:48.095 - thought they were interested and won't end up buying but we did want to wait until we had a pretty good 00:14:48.095 --> 00:14:56.123 - chunk to of plots to sell before we released Yeah, most of them are singles there's a couple places 00:14:56.123 --> 00:15:04.151 - where there's multiple spaces in one plot Yeah, a little bit of everything All right, thank you and 00:15:04.151 --> 00:15:06.078 - you said the process is 00:15:06.210 --> 00:15:11.646 - This is kind of starting the process, but there will be a second approval after. 00:15:11.746 --> 00:15:18.106 - Amount of time that will that we will take action again. Yes So we put we've already listed them the 00:15:18.106 --> 00:15:24.467 - list in the newspaper twice And then this meeting serves as a third notice for anyone who might have 00:15:24.467 --> 00:15:30.953 - interest and then we give that 30 days Waiting period for people to come forward and then at your next 00:15:30.953 --> 00:15:37.440 - meeting that will be the final I will tell you if I've heard from anyone we would remove those off the 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:41.470 - list So I'll have a final list of plots that we want to reclaim 00:15:41.730 --> 00:15:49.752 - And then you'll yeah that you'll vote to finalize and reclaim those Other than these lots that you'll 00:15:49.752 --> 00:15:57.852 - reclaim are there any lots available for anybody to buy There are a there's a short list of people who 00:15:57.852 --> 00:16:06.110 - own plots and they are trying to sell them So there's a few of those but there's not a lot and then they 00:16:07.298 --> 00:16:14.322 - Sell to somebody else do they have to go through you to transfer that deed or can that person transfer 00:16:14.322 --> 00:16:21.482 - the deed? So we will issue a new deed Yeah, we just need something in writing. Basically the transaction 00:16:21.482 --> 00:16:28.778 - happens outside of us, but we just get something in writing that says Yeah, we can do owners. Yes, exactly 00:16:28.778 --> 00:16:35.870 - and start the clock running again or whatever. Yep. Okay. Thank you interesting The approach the way to 00:16:36.802 --> 00:16:44.356 - to reach them would be through which ways? I'm sorry, can you say that again? The ways, I don't know 00:16:44.356 --> 00:16:51.986 - if it's working. Yeah. The different ways that the department is using to reach out to them, what are 00:16:51.986 --> 00:16:59.166 - those ways? Just regular mail or? We don't have contact information, so these are most of these 00:16:59.266 --> 00:17:06.437 - The people that bought them are buried there and their children are buried there. So we would be looking 00:17:06.437 --> 00:17:13.471 - for like great grandkids Grandkids so we have no idea how to track down the actual descendants So this 00:17:13.471 --> 00:17:20.300 - note the newspaper notice is hot and this meeting here is how we are Broadcasting to the community, 00:17:20.300 --> 00:17:23.646 - you know, take a look if you think that you have 00:17:23.778 --> 00:17:30.738 - An interest in any of these plots, you know come forward and if they have a deed or something that shows 00:17:30.738 --> 00:17:37.500 - that then we'll honor that So the expectation is from great grandchildren. No, that's Sorry, I'm just 00:17:37.500 --> 00:17:44.062 - gonna jump in really quick Taylor Brown city legal the process that we're following is essentially 00:17:44.162 --> 00:17:49.743 - The courts process for service by publication. So when you're trying to serve a lawsuit on somebody 00:17:49.743 --> 00:17:55.324 - who you have no contact information for This is the process that the state has set out for lawsuits 00:17:55.324 --> 00:18:00.961 - that are basically in any possible way You can try to contact them. These are the steps you take and 00:18:00.961 --> 00:18:06.597 - that is something very similar to what we've done here We've obviously adapted it for the park board 00:18:06.597 --> 00:18:12.234 - But that is where we got our framework initially if that helps answer any of those questions And Amy 00:18:12.234 --> 00:18:13.406 - is there any sort of 00:18:13.666 --> 00:18:21.421 - I don't know, turnover of the plot, or is it just, you know, I mean. I don't know, I mean, is it just 00:18:21.421 --> 00:18:29.176 - like, here's the plot as it stands, or is there earth movers that come in and move? These are unused, 00:18:29.176 --> 00:18:36.779 - no one's buried there. Oh, no one's buried there, oh, oh, oh. Okay, sorry, sorry, I thought we were 00:18:36.779 --> 00:18:43.166 - reclaiming. Empty lots. Oh, well that's different. Never been used. Oh, okay, okay. 00:18:43.426 --> 00:18:50.276 - Just ground, yes. Sorry, sorry. I was a little confused. So yes, so I can explain. We started with a 00:18:50.276 --> 00:18:57.194 - list, and then we had our cemetery staff go probe all of the plots to make sure that there was no one 00:18:57.194 --> 00:19:04.179 - in there. And then that process did eliminate many plots. We found people that didn't necessarily have 00:19:04.179 --> 00:19:11.097 - headstones. So we took those off the list. So these are ones that are empty, unused, but were sold at 00:19:11.097 --> 00:19:12.318 - one point. I see. 00:19:12.578 --> 00:19:20.652 - And then someone didn't use them. Well, I feel better about the whole thing now. I'm glad you asked. 00:19:20.652 --> 00:19:28.805 - I was thinking there's some opportunity to promote the dearly departed tour. I was thinking that tour 00:19:28.805 --> 00:19:37.359 - too. Well, the tours are very popular and people always ask us when they're there, like, is there anything 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:38.238 - available? 00:19:38.434 --> 00:19:45.055 - For a long time, I've had to say, sorry, not really. And I get calls all the time of people who really 00:19:45.055 --> 00:19:51.741 - want to be buried in Rose Hill. So I'm very excited about this process and that we can be giving people 00:19:51.741 --> 00:19:58.426 - these plots. So yeah, this is brand new. That's why it's kind of confusing. We've never done this. Just 00:19:58.426 --> 00:20:05.176 - don't sell that one that's down there where the guy was on the Titanic. That's an interesting one. Yeah, 00:20:05.176 --> 00:20:06.462 - no, that's a great. 00:20:06.626 --> 00:20:16.010 - Great spot, yeah. Okay. He's got a big marker. He's got a big sarcophagus tombstone, so I don't think 00:20:16.010 --> 00:20:25.302 - we're gonna... Yeah, okay. Out of curiosity, the price, how is the price, the resale determined? Who 00:20:25.302 --> 00:20:27.326 - determines the price? 00:20:27.810 --> 00:20:36.050 - So that will be on the price list that Molly is presenting. So I look at other cemeteries that 00:20:36.050 --> 00:20:44.724 - are municipally owned and look at what square footage cost their charging, and then try to evaluate 00:20:44.724 --> 00:20:53.398 - that based on our situation. So I do have a recommendation of a change this year. So just to see if 00:20:53.398 --> 00:20:57.214 - it's different, but when something is sold, 00:20:58.082 --> 00:21:06.130 - The prices also depends on the place in the cemetery like there are different prices or is a flat fee 00:21:06.130 --> 00:21:14.020 - for all the spaces no matter if it's Like yeah, so some places do that. We don't right now We did I 00:21:14.020 --> 00:21:21.988 - did recommend a change from because there are some cremation only plots that are much smaller and so 00:21:21.988 --> 00:21:27.038 - I do have an increase a step up from a cremation plot will be a 00:21:27.170 --> 00:21:37.434 - Less and then a full burial plot is slightly more but that's the only difference It's not based on like 00:21:37.434 --> 00:21:47.599 - section or location within the cemetery Questions for Amy Okay We move forward with the official legal 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:56.382 - process for reclaiming the cemetery plots Okay, and all those in favor aye aye All right 00:21:56.610 --> 00:22:07.045 - Thank you. Thank you Amy. All right. And then next up. Oh here we go. Rebecca Swift amendment with R.E.A. 00:22:07.045 --> 00:22:16.988 - for construction inspection for the power line trail. I'm sorry mine won't be this exciting but just 00:22:16.988 --> 00:22:18.366 - as important. 00:22:18.498 --> 00:22:24.264 - I'm Rebecca Swift operations and development division director and I'm here to recommend a contract 00:22:24.264 --> 00:22:30.261 - amendment with REA or Rundell Ernst burger associates to add on additional scope and Increase the total 00:22:30.261 --> 00:22:36.315 - contract amount We are still ongoing with powerline trail development and the project is taking a little 00:22:36.315 --> 00:22:39.486 - bit longer than expected like most projects unforeseen 00:22:39.714 --> 00:22:45.282 - Obstacles like bedrock. We didn't foresee having to sit there and chisel away We are requiring REA to 00:22:45.282 --> 00:22:50.905 - be on site a little bit more to make sure that the project keeps going and that we meet the completion 00:22:50.905 --> 00:22:56.365 - deadline Which would be December, but I'm really hoping for a ribbon cutting in November So REA has 00:22:56.365 --> 00:23:01.988 - been a really great partner to work on this project and to be owner rep provide owner rep services for 00:23:01.988 --> 00:23:03.134 - the project duration 00:23:03.426 --> 00:23:11.848 - Happy to answer any other questions, but total amount to increase is thirty five thousand one hundred 00:23:11.848 --> 00:23:20.353 - and eighty So the new contract total is one hundred and sixty thousand one hundred and thirty and this 00:23:20.353 --> 00:23:28.775 - is being paid out of another Bicentennial bond. So Thank you less point. Okay. Yeah Any questions for 00:23:28.775 --> 00:23:30.014 - Rebecca Second 00:23:32.130 --> 00:23:39.163 - All right, and all those in favor I All right motion carried. Thank you, Rebecca And in c5 Darren Eads 00:23:39.163 --> 00:23:46.197 - has the service agreement with Hayes Smart Mart for 2027 services Good afternoon Darren needs facility 00:23:46.197 --> 00:23:53.093 - coordinator with the Twin Lakes Recreation Center you have before you this evening recommendation to 00:23:53.093 --> 00:23:57.054 - approve the service agreement with Hayes Smart Market and 00:23:57.314 --> 00:24:03.202 - Hey smart market is a locally owned company. They have AI machines that they're going to actually bring 00:24:03.202 --> 00:24:08.863 - into the facility if you're Familiar if you're not familiar with those we actually went on site and 00:24:08.863 --> 00:24:14.581 - visited Two of the two of the people that that submitted estimate or quotes to us You basically walk 00:24:14.581 --> 00:24:20.355 - up you'll scan your card you open the door. Whatever you take out is charged to your card This is the 00:24:20.355 --> 00:24:26.017 - operation is full operation by them. We won't be doing anything other than providing them the space 00:24:26.017 --> 00:24:27.262 - and electrical outlet 00:24:27.490 --> 00:24:33.668 - They'll take care of keeping it all stocked. They're wireless. Everything is separate from the city. 00:24:33.668 --> 00:24:39.784 - We don't have to provide them cellular or wireless Wi-Fi or anything like that. So it ought to be a 00:24:39.784 --> 00:24:45.962 - really good opportunity for us. They're going to be focused. Their main focus is going to be protein 00:24:45.962 --> 00:24:52.201 - supplements, powders, and stuff like that for our members. And we look forward to getting them in the 00:24:52.201 --> 00:24:57.278 - building. I'd be glad to answer any questions you may have. OK. All right. Thanks. 00:24:57.410 --> 00:25:04.670 - Is there some sort of vending machine there now we we did have we had Eminem if you remember we entered 00:25:04.670 --> 00:25:12.000 - right agreement with Eminem back in 2024 we ran with them through 25 they Suffered a lot of loss because 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:19.050 - the way their stuff was was just on the shelves they came to us about that and it's in the agreement 00:25:19.050 --> 00:25:22.750 - very clearly that we're not responsible for that and 00:25:22.946 --> 00:25:31.032 - so they were looking into AI machines and just really couldn't ever get that worked out and we gave 00:25:31.032 --> 00:25:39.199 - them up until about June and So we ended the agreement with him and wanted to move forward with with 00:25:39.199 --> 00:25:47.285 - this. So yeah Okay Great any questions for Darren They'll be doing like protein bars protein shakes 00:25:47.285 --> 00:25:51.166 - protein powders stuff that that you know people 00:25:51.362 --> 00:26:01.154 - Want to take during exercise and stuff like that. It will be their main focus. I'm gonna say they won't 00:26:01.154 --> 00:26:10.569 - have Powerades or something like that in there. They're welcome to do that All right, and all those 00:26:10.569 --> 00:26:16.030 - in favor I all right motion carried. Thank you, Darren. I 00:26:16.706 --> 00:26:24.592 - And then in C6 is the agreement with Deem for ice arena compressor repair. And it looks like keto stepping 00:26:24.592 --> 00:26:32.182 - in for Chris. Are you the pinch hitter? Yep. Chris harmonic has to stay at the Frank Southern tonight. 00:26:32.182 --> 00:26:39.699 - So I'm pinching in there for him. Satoshi Kido, sports service division director. Staff recommend the 00:26:39.699 --> 00:26:45.374 - review and approval of service agreement with Deem to repair compressor two. 00:26:45.698 --> 00:26:54.547 - at the Frank Southern Ice Arena. The cost of repair will be $10,500. Since the 2025 season, staff have 00:26:54.547 --> 00:27:03.740 - been working to identify, upgrade many items at Ice Arena related to compliance with IIAR, Federal Ammonia 00:27:03.740 --> 00:27:12.331 - Refrigeration Standards. After the ammonia leak in March 2026, more items are added to the list for 00:27:12.331 --> 00:27:15.166 - inspection, repair, and upgrade. 00:27:16.130 --> 00:27:24.030 - The items on the list that you have in front of you have been completed, but budget funds at the ice 00:27:24.030 --> 00:27:31.931 - arena were getting low. Then fall of 2026 during the inspection, staff identified the compressor two 00:27:31.931 --> 00:27:39.831 - at ice arena is in need of repairs. This contract request is paired with budget amendment to add the 00:27:39.831 --> 00:27:43.742 - budget fund to the ice arena, non-reburring fund. 00:27:44.450 --> 00:27:53.216 - where undisputed cash reserve and annual performance can cover the expense. Okay, any questions for 00:27:53.216 --> 00:28:02.507 - Kido about this compressor repair budget? I think so. No? Okay. I'll make a motion to approve the service 00:28:02.507 --> 00:28:10.747 - agreement with Deem to repair compressor two. Second. All right, and all those in favor? Aye. 00:28:10.747 --> 00:28:14.078 - Motion carried. All right, thank you. 00:28:15.362 --> 00:28:22.239 - Okay, and then in c7 Leslie Branson has the winter farmers market partnership Good afternoon, Leslie 00:28:22.239 --> 00:28:29.115 - Branson recreation division director I'm here to recommend the approval of the partnership agreement 00:28:29.115 --> 00:28:36.060 - with the Bloomington winners farmers market for a November market at switch yard park the contract or 00:28:36.060 --> 00:28:37.694 - partnership will have a 00:28:37.794 --> 00:28:43.610 - Flat-fee of $300 per Saturday that the winters farmers market pays to the Parks Department to go into 00:28:43.610 --> 00:28:49.597 - the market non-reverting fund This is the second year of an official partnership But actually the fourth 00:28:49.597 --> 00:28:55.469 - year that we've been working with the winter farmers market to add to offer a combined indoor November 00:28:55.469 --> 00:29:01.171 - market at switch yard park We've started to finalize that partnership last year and again this year 00:29:01.171 --> 00:29:04.478 - because there now are funds that are exchanging hands and 00:29:04.642 --> 00:29:11.328 - Both partners and staff work to organize the November market. There are vendors both from our normal 00:29:11.328 --> 00:29:18.214 - Saturday market as well as those that just participate in the winners farmers market the winter farmers 00:29:18.214 --> 00:29:24.966 - market staff handles the map and much of the communication where our staff handle a lot of the day of 00:29:24.966 --> 00:29:31.719 - Activity and then obviously provide the space happy to answer any questions that you might have Okay, 00:29:31.719 --> 00:29:33.374 - any questions for Leslie 00:29:33.634 --> 00:29:40.748 - is co-hosted at switch yard and then The winter market takes over and how does the structure differ 00:29:40.748 --> 00:29:48.502 - then in the winter months? It doesn't differ in structure except that no longer is the Bloomington community 00:29:48.502 --> 00:29:55.901 - farmers market involved So our market goes April through November we end at the holiday market and then 00:29:55.901 --> 00:29:59.102 - we don't run a market December through March 00:29:59.490 --> 00:30:05.989 - The winter farmers market handles that alone. It is a rental agreement with switch yard parking that 00:30:05.989 --> 00:30:12.746 - they pay a rental fee to switch yard without any Involvement from the true Bloomington community farmers 00:30:12.746 --> 00:30:19.439 - market More than like the yes, they pay Yeah, they are paying less to us for the month of November than 00:30:19.439 --> 00:30:26.131 - they would pay on a normal weekly basis, but the partnership You know makes it worthwhile on both sides 00:30:26.131 --> 00:30:28.062 - So the holiday market is that 00:30:28.162 --> 00:30:34.256 - Is there to know the holiday market comes back here? So that's why it's only for three Saturdays. We'll 00:30:34.256 --> 00:30:39.822 - do three Saturdays of November market at switch yard. We'll come back here They do not operate 00:30:39.822 --> 00:30:45.681 - on Thanksgiving Saturday. It is just the holiday market We'll come back here to showers run holiday 00:30:45.681 --> 00:30:51.716 - market and then they'll take over in December at that point November market opens at 9. It's 9 to 1230 00:30:51.716 --> 00:30:56.638 - and Holiday market is 10 to 3 on the last Saturday of November. We're talking about 00:30:58.274 --> 00:31:08.092 - Okay, all right Don't do it PSA Okay, I'll make a motion to approve the partnership agreement 00:31:08.092 --> 00:31:18.954 - with Bloomington winter farmers market All right, all those in favor aye Motion carried. Thanks Leslie. 00:31:18.954 --> 00:31:25.534 - I'm gonna let Sean do the next one that has my name on okay. I 00:31:26.338 --> 00:31:33.601 - All right, Sean will tell us about see a the amendment with Covenant technologies for switchyard security 00:31:33.601 --> 00:31:40.658 - camera repair Yes, Sean Marlar recreation facilities general manager Leslie did the paperwork on this. 00:31:40.658 --> 00:31:47.989 - Thank you This is an amendment to an existing contract that was approved earlier this year with convergent 00:31:47.989 --> 00:31:53.470 - technologies this is a project that IT helped us along with as far as scope and 00:31:53.570 --> 00:32:01.607 - with monitoring the work. During the part of that work, it was determined that the original scope did 00:32:01.607 --> 00:32:09.644 - not include all the necessary parts, electronic components that were necessary for full repair of all 00:32:09.644 --> 00:32:17.602 - the security cameras at Switchard Park. So the vendor and IT have asked for an additional $19,816 to 00:32:17.602 --> 00:32:20.990 - put forth those repairs, I have been told. 00:32:21.090 --> 00:32:28.105 - that with the additional mount, all 55 cameras will be fully operational. So I'm happy to answer any 00:32:28.105 --> 00:32:34.980 - questions. Okay, and I think we established before that there were camera problems, environmental, 00:32:34.980 --> 00:32:42.342 - you know, it wasn't, they were not vandalized. They were not vandalized. No, there was multiple problems. 00:32:42.342 --> 00:32:49.982 - Some of it was just the age of the electronic components, but also we had that 50 year, once in 50 year flood 00:32:50.114 --> 00:32:58.535 - Years ago and the placement of some of the components was low enough that it was affected by that flood 00:32:58.535 --> 00:33:06.956 - and that Damaged some of the pieces but even without that flood we still would have had certain cameras 00:33:06.956 --> 00:33:15.458 - out Okay Cameras do we have in the park system as a whole in the park system or at switch our park whole 00:33:15.458 --> 00:33:19.102 - system the whole system I'm not I have 55 60 00:33:19.650 --> 00:33:26.422 - There's six zero. Yeah. Yeah, there's 55 at switch art in another five There's there's a few at Hopewell 00:33:26.422 --> 00:33:33.323 - and there's one at seminary or other locations. All right, and What do we use the cameras for? The cameras 00:33:33.323 --> 00:33:39.837 - are used in case there are certain events where there's significant property damage and if we file a 00:33:39.837 --> 00:33:46.545 - police report we the police are able to look at that footage and that has been helpful in the past both 00:33:46.545 --> 00:33:48.286 - for us and for private and 00:33:48.738 --> 00:33:56.036 - complaints And do we regularly monitor to know if the phones are that I don't I understand we don't 00:33:56.036 --> 00:34:03.553 - have somebody sitting at a bank TVs looking at them but do but how How do we know when they're working 00:34:03.553 --> 00:34:11.216 - and not working? So it seems to me that 38 not working is a problem It is a problem. We do not regularly 00:34:11.216 --> 00:34:17.054 - monitor it at the BPD substation There is a wall of video cameras or TV screens 00:34:17.442 --> 00:34:24.167 - Other than that wall though, for myself and two of my staff have access to some software that if we 00:34:24.167 --> 00:34:31.026 - need to, if somebody has a reason for us to go and check it, we can open the software and go and find 00:34:31.026 --> 00:34:37.751 - a specific camera. It's just what you think it is. We can see it live or we can go back in time for 00:34:37.751 --> 00:34:44.543 - a certain number of months and see something. But we do not monitor it. It is only as needed type of 00:34:44.543 --> 00:34:47.166 - thing. So when you say there's camera, 00:34:47.330 --> 00:34:54.380 - TV monitors at the police station, which police station? The BPD substation. The one on the beeline 00:34:54.380 --> 00:35:01.501 - trail? Yes. By the park. I don't even know what the current status. Are there police in there? There 00:35:01.501 --> 00:35:08.833 - are DROs in there routinely. Those cameras are also not monitored. It just happens to be a wall of TVs. 00:35:08.833 --> 00:35:15.742 - So does anybody ever go in and look at those saying, gosh, there's a bunch of blank screens here? 00:35:16.194 --> 00:35:21.983 - Well, Jim if I may I just add because I know this has been a hot topic lately to including at City Council 00:35:21.983 --> 00:35:27.393 - last night right surveillance technology and cameras and things like that and You know, we provided 00:35:27.393 --> 00:35:33.073 - some commentary to council members that you know, this is very much separate from License plate readers. 00:35:33.073 --> 00:35:38.483 - These are these are traditional security cameras, right? and so we have known that this circuit has 00:35:38.483 --> 00:35:44.002 - been out for a while and have been working on it and this is we're finally getting to the fruition of 00:35:44.002 --> 00:35:45.246 - that process to get to 00:35:45.602 --> 00:35:51.449 - Full functionality back up and running Independently of us BPD also uses these I know they reference 00:35:51.449 --> 00:35:57.296 - using these when they're monitoring things like drug deals and things like that We we may never even 00:35:57.296 --> 00:36:03.432 - know that BPD is using these and monitoring these for those purposes But when we do have a parks incident 00:36:03.432 --> 00:36:09.337 - that comes to us You know Sean and his staff or directly to BPD has the ability to go in and find the 00:36:09.337 --> 00:36:15.358 - appropriate footage And it's helped us, you know We've avoided a lawsuit that might have been erroneous 00:36:15.586 --> 00:36:21.472 - Someone was claiming something happened and it proved to not happen You know used it to track where 00:36:21.472 --> 00:36:27.416 - people have gone after a potential crime has occurred I recall a couple years ago The person who was 00:36:27.416 --> 00:36:33.596 - was flying down the Grimes Bridge and hit the woman on their bike that was caught Vandalism is something 00:36:33.596 --> 00:36:39.658 - we can catch on there, too. So We have known these have been out for a little while and it's just been 00:36:39.658 --> 00:36:44.190 - a matter of time to get the scope and these these IT contracts and companies 00:36:44.450 --> 00:36:53.302 - Working to make a scale of this repair on the scale has been a challenge The cameras my concern is that 00:36:53.302 --> 00:37:02.409 - they weren't working and I guess my other thought is if we've only got five cameras outside the switchyard 00:37:02.409 --> 00:37:11.006 - park should we have more cameras and and I know when we were talking about the The outside toilet at 00:37:11.522 --> 00:37:17.761 - Seminary we talked about maybe getting a camera there, and I don't know if anything's come of that I 00:37:17.761 --> 00:37:23.937 - know that camera flock cameras aren't necessarily popular, but these aren't flock cameras This is a 00:37:23.937 --> 00:37:30.176 - completely different issue and as we need to pull back on security You know we may need to pull back 00:37:30.176 --> 00:37:36.415 - on Marshall and things like that it seems to me that our cameras become more important and I guess I 00:37:36.415 --> 00:37:38.206 - would encourage us to have a 00:37:38.498 --> 00:37:44.927 - Maybe develop if we don't have one or maybe to review if we have one what our policies are on cameras 00:37:44.927 --> 00:37:51.356 - One to make sure that they're regularly checked to see if they're operational. I'm not being critical 00:37:51.356 --> 00:37:57.659 - of anybody here because I know The situations are but I think we have a policy to make sure they're 00:37:57.659 --> 00:38:03.710 - operational and I also think which I know is not popular right now but I think we ought to have 00:38:03.938 --> 00:38:09.909 - look into cameras and other places where we can't patrol those areas all the time. And I think when 00:38:09.909 --> 00:38:16.298 - people see or know cameras are there, they expect them to be operational and they hope they're operational 00:38:16.298 --> 00:38:22.447 - because it provides them some amount of security. And to know that I'm walking down a street where 75% 00:38:22.447 --> 00:38:28.657 - of them aren't working doesn't give me a lot of reason to feel secure that the camera's helping me stay 00:38:28.657 --> 00:38:33.374 - secure. So I guess the bottom line of all of this is yes, I fully support this 00:38:33.570 --> 00:38:40.752 - Let's get them working. Is there new technology if if we can provide more safety with some additional 00:38:40.752 --> 00:38:47.793 - money spent on this type of technology Because we're going to lose some of our may lose some of our 00:38:47.793 --> 00:38:50.750 - ability to have security in the parks and 00:38:51.074 --> 00:38:56.591 - Let's look at what that security is. Let's look at what those are. But more importantly, or as part 00:38:56.591 --> 00:39:02.164 - of that, let's look at our policy and see if we need to update that policy and look at what it is so 00:39:02.164 --> 00:39:07.736 - that we can provide. I fully support this, and I thanks for your presentation. And I'm not trying to 00:39:07.736 --> 00:39:13.309 - grill you or anybody else. I'm just trying to think what we need to do to make the park safe for the 00:39:13.309 --> 00:39:17.502 - public and to make sure what we have we're able to use and utilize. Thanks. 00:39:17.986 --> 00:39:23.232 - Jim, I'll just add a little context. I fully agree that we need to be looking at this more. We have 00:39:23.232 --> 00:39:28.583 - been talking about this a little bit, especially for some of our core parks where we might experience 00:39:28.583 --> 00:39:33.882 - a few more issues, security-related, Hopewell. We have pretty good coverage at Hopewell. It could be 00:39:33.882 --> 00:39:39.338 - even better, but that was part of the new park planning was, hey, let's make sure we have strategically 00:39:39.338 --> 00:39:44.584 - located ones to cover these intersections, these key areas. The one at seminary is the department's 00:39:44.584 --> 00:39:45.214 - oldest one. 00:39:45.314 --> 00:39:52.474 - pretty out of date. We've talked with BPD. We have a joint desire to update some of the cameras at seminary 00:39:52.474 --> 00:39:59.303 - to better be able to provide evidence or review of incidents, things like that, as well as potentially 00:39:59.303 --> 00:40:05.933 - people's as the other one that has come up for us specifically and maybe building trades as sort of 00:40:05.933 --> 00:40:08.254 - higher priority areas. The sort of 00:40:10.722 --> 00:40:16.450 - Backlash that's not the right word. I'm looking for the the slowdown on that I think was the fact that 00:40:16.450 --> 00:40:22.234 - City Council was taking this up and and looking at you know What type of securities camera surveillance 00:40:22.234 --> 00:40:27.796 - would be allowed going forward? There were all kinds of debates as to where that would would settle 00:40:27.796 --> 00:40:33.691 - and fall out, right? So now that we know that I think we'll have a clear path forward. I think critically 00:40:33.691 --> 00:40:37.918 - identifying funding Maybe jointly with BPD and across the city to invest at 00:40:38.242 --> 00:40:44.821 - invest in a couple of these areas is the next step. But I expect some of the policies you're talking 00:40:44.821 --> 00:40:51.466 - about to be coming across citywide as a result of this new ordinance that was just passed last night. 00:40:51.466 --> 00:40:58.175 - I guess my point is that technology has become less and less expensive and much better quality. I just 00:40:58.175 --> 00:40:59.934 - know from my home cameras. 00:41:00.098 --> 00:41:06.445 - And I just think we need a policy of how long we're going to keep those what's generated how we're going 00:41:06.445 --> 00:41:12.610 - to generate it how it's going to be checked how we make sure the cameras are operating and I think we 00:41:12.610 --> 00:41:18.110 - as the park commissioners I appreciate and understand that the issues the City Council has 00:41:18.242 --> 00:41:23.928 - But this is our issue for our parks and it's the park commissioners that decide what this is. And so 00:41:23.928 --> 00:41:29.614 - I think we can take our step of what we're going to do for our parks and for our public that use our 00:41:29.614 --> 00:41:35.300 - parks. And we don't need to wait for other people to make those decisions. And I feel strongly about 00:41:35.300 --> 00:41:41.098 - that. Yeah. And so I want to move forward with looking at this issue as soon as we can. That's one one 00:41:41.098 --> 00:41:46.334 - park commissioner stating that. But I would like to I would like to encourage us to do that. 00:41:47.554 --> 00:41:53.993 - And I think we should be good for that. But now we know, I mean, we would be precluded based on this 00:41:53.993 --> 00:42:00.368 - new ordinance from doing any type of smart, you know, AI enhanced security camera. That is part of, 00:42:00.368 --> 00:42:06.743 - I believe, I need to understand there were a lot of amendments and I need to understand what's come 00:42:06.743 --> 00:42:13.182 - out of that. But traditional security cameras, we should be good to go when we were very much, yeah. 00:42:14.210 --> 00:42:21.455 - I'm not asking for that now, but let's get the traditionals, and let's get them where we need them, 00:42:21.455 --> 00:42:28.846 - and let's have the policy of how to use them. And a lot of the policy on the cameras, I shouldn't say 00:42:28.846 --> 00:42:36.308 - policy, the maintenance for the cameras actually goes through IT, and so that's why we're working with 00:42:36.308 --> 00:42:42.974 - IT on this. Where are they located? Where are they located? Yeah, the remaining ones below. 00:42:43.106 --> 00:42:53.346 - 38, 36? There's certain gaps. 38, but so it seems because of the exposure to the environmental exposure 00:42:53.346 --> 00:43:03.193 - and some other failures, I wonder the ones that we still have, you know, less than 50% of the total 00:43:03.193 --> 00:43:12.350 - of cameras in this place. So what are they covering? What are they doing? And also this was, 00:43:12.546 --> 00:43:20.892 - The cameras were installed in 2019. And then just correct me if I'm wrong. So until now we are thinking 00:43:20.892 --> 00:43:29.639 - about replacing the cameras because of the amount of cameras or because? This is not a wholesale replacement 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:37.825 - of the camera. This is a replacement of components within the camera itself. But I mean, for example, 00:43:37.825 --> 00:43:42.078 - in a batch of 10 cameras or the action of repairing, 00:43:42.402 --> 00:43:53.048 - Why didn't this happen when there were, I would say, 10 or 15 cameras just until reaching this number? 00:43:53.048 --> 00:44:03.591 - If there was any specific reason about just acting now with too many cameras not working and security 00:44:03.591 --> 00:44:11.550 - not being trustful in this moment with less cameras and less action with the 00:44:11.810 --> 00:44:19.537 - with those old ones? So you're saying, why didn't we do something when less cameras were out? 00:44:19.537 --> 00:44:28.250 - I would say, yeah. I completely understand that question. Again, this is maintenance. I'll just go ahead. 00:44:28.250 --> 00:44:37.374 - Taylor Brown, City Legal. For the sake of security and if we want to discuss locations of cameras, the current 00:44:38.050 --> 00:44:45.205 - layout, things like that, I would recommend not having that discussion in a public meeting, but instead 00:44:45.205 --> 00:44:52.154 - calling an executive session, so we can be able to speak freely about any security concerns that you 00:44:52.154 --> 00:44:59.309 - may have, if that makes sense. It works, but also for the, because I heard that I was also some damages 00:44:59.309 --> 00:45:05.982 - on purpose. No, this is posture. So those ones as well, like the ones that normally are damaged, 00:45:06.818 --> 00:45:16.376 - by human intent or also We're yeah Israel we're not aware that any have been intentionally damaged it 00:45:16.376 --> 00:45:25.841 - was weather and systems failure and age But again, there's particular security vulnerabilities would 00:45:25.841 --> 00:45:30.526 - perhaps be best discussed at an executive session 00:45:32.450 --> 00:45:39.477 - answer the question about does this new ordinance Prohibit some sort of AI assisted camera technology 00:45:39.477 --> 00:45:46.505 - as Tim eloquently stated there were a number of amendments in that very passionate public meeting The 00:45:46.505 --> 00:45:53.532 - exact ordinance legal has not yet the exact wording of that ordinance has not yet been received Okay, 00:45:53.532 --> 00:46:00.422 - I already have it on my to-do list to do a full evaluation in-depth analysis of that and then we'll 00:46:00.422 --> 00:46:01.662 - get back with the 00:46:01.762 --> 00:46:10.872 - Parks on next steps. Okay. All right. Appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, you know, so I don't know if 00:46:10.872 --> 00:46:20.253 - this is for disclosure of maybe in a different setting so the cameras are working 24 7 and and the good 00:46:20.253 --> 00:46:28.190 - we know the recording length for saving material or is something that should be I think 00:46:30.562 --> 00:46:36.485 - Not sure that would be a question for IT, but I believe it's three months It's either three months or 00:46:36.485 --> 00:46:42.350 - six months. I forget not 90 days comes to I think you're right three months Yeah, I think it's three 00:46:42.350 --> 00:46:48.215 - months that they keep the ability to go back and record it an item We've been told by IT that myself 00:46:48.215 --> 00:46:54.022 - and my staff we're not allowed to record anything off of that for they were they said legal reasons 00:46:54.022 --> 00:46:59.422 - only the police can and in fact if somebody calls and says hey, can I see this some somebody 00:46:59.906 --> 00:47:06.490 - Mugs me or something. I don't have the ability to show them or I'm not supposed to show them They are 00:47:06.490 --> 00:47:13.010 - supposed to file a police report and then the police can pull that footage Can it can I ask you come 00:47:13.010 --> 00:47:19.594 - verge conversion technologies is the company that installed these cameras and then they are preparing 00:47:19.594 --> 00:47:26.114 - the cameras Convergent is not the company that installed the cameras. I believe that was a different 00:47:26.114 --> 00:47:29.406 - company. I think that might have been Presidio and 00:47:30.626 --> 00:47:40.490 - Yeah, I think it was Presidio that installed them. Presidio has greatly shifted what their business 00:47:40.490 --> 00:47:50.454 - model is. Convergent was the vendor that IT selected. So this company is in charge of the repair and 00:47:50.454 --> 00:48:00.318 - replacement. They are going to place new cameras and they are going to have a contract for this new 00:48:00.450 --> 00:48:10.444 - This is an existing contract that we already did for $75,000 earlier in the year during the execution 00:48:10.444 --> 00:48:20.340 - of the contract convergent and IT Figured out that the original scope was short of the nest what was 00:48:20.340 --> 00:48:30.334 - necessary to actually to affect the repairs of all 55 cameras Can I also ask about the replacement of 00:48:30.498 --> 00:48:41.394 - would be because there are some failures in the components. So this company will replace the components 00:48:41.394 --> 00:48:51.871 - that were failing or is there an intention that this company can incorporate its own pieces or? Are 00:48:51.871 --> 00:48:57.214 - you asking if the company is adding new technology 00:48:57.442 --> 00:49:04.993 - Right his own one because what I understand is that they are going to repair and they are going to make 00:49:04.993 --> 00:49:12.254 - the replay the replacements So with the replacements, I'm guessing is from their own. I Will do the 00:49:12.254 --> 00:49:19.006 - best to answer the question as I can it the parts they are installing are not parts that are 00:49:19.170 --> 00:49:25.463 - specifically their own, they're purchased, but they have the expertise to figure out which parts are 00:49:25.463 --> 00:49:31.943 - necessary and how to install them. So it is not new technology, they are replacing existing technology. 00:49:31.943 --> 00:49:38.361 - I'll just add that we've been really reliant on our IT department to guide the scope of work for this. 00:49:38.361 --> 00:49:44.716 - Since we knew they were out, we said, hey, these are out. There was some level of design failure with 00:49:44.716 --> 00:49:48.766 - this, with the flood event, how do we fix this, what do we need, 00:49:48.962 --> 00:49:53.831 - We don't you know, we don't have the expertise to do that So we lean on our IT professionals to help 00:49:53.831 --> 00:49:58.701 - with the scope of work and they actually manage the RFP as well Which then we brought the results to 00:49:58.701 --> 00:50:03.667 - the board for that contract room back in March I think we did the original one something like that And 00:50:03.667 --> 00:50:08.633 - now there's a little bit more components needed to finish up the work to make sure it gets done. These 00:50:08.633 --> 00:50:13.598 - are ARPA funds We're utilizing some of the last of the ARPA funds. So it's important that it gets done 00:50:13.598 --> 00:50:17.118 - Promptly so we can build that and use those funds before they go away. I 00:50:17.954 --> 00:50:25.877 - To like requests an explanation for from the IT To know how the these cameras working in our parks. 00:50:25.877 --> 00:50:34.593 - Is there any possibility to have sure? Yeah, I mean, you know per Jim's point, you know wanting to understand 00:50:34.593 --> 00:50:38.238 - and maybe having some more parks specific and 00:50:38.658 --> 00:50:44.026 - Review policies on this we could absolutely develop that with the board part of that could be you know 00:50:44.026 --> 00:50:49.237 - We could have someone from IT come and give an informational presentation at a future meeting about 00:50:49.237 --> 00:50:54.500 - hey, here's how it works currently You know what Taylor said Taylor was saying we need to understand 00:50:54.500 --> 00:50:59.763 - this ordinance a little bit better We could make this an informational topic for the near future for 00:50:59.763 --> 00:51:05.131 - the board and developing Seeing what new guidance the city broadly generates and deciding if the board 00:51:05.131 --> 00:51:06.590 - would like to have anything 00:51:07.074 --> 00:51:16.777 - different or more restrictive in terms of how we operate with those security cameras, we could certainly 00:51:16.777 --> 00:51:26.572 - look at that. Yeah, my question would be besides policy that could be seen in the future, but my question 00:51:26.572 --> 00:51:35.998 - is if some questions from myself regarding the functioning of those cameras, the system and the usage 00:51:36.482 --> 00:51:44.605 - So that would be in my case if I may I would like to have that conversation with any representative 00:51:44.605 --> 00:51:52.727 - from that department to see how they operate in our parks on any kind of unit or space that belongs 00:51:52.727 --> 00:52:00.931 - to person recreation Sure. Yeah, we could get a staff report on that in the future. Yeah Okay, do we 00:52:00.931 --> 00:52:04.830 - have any other questions or comments for Sean I 00:52:05.474 --> 00:52:15.983 - To the contract with convergent technologies Okay, and all those in favor I Okay, yeah, all right Sean, 00:52:15.983 --> 00:52:26.188 - I bet you're happy you took over for Leslie I Didn't say I'd answer any questions and I tried. Okay. 00:52:26.188 --> 00:52:34.878 - Thank you Okay, and then c9 is the 2027 price schedule which Molly will tell us about 00:52:36.354 --> 00:52:44.156 - Manager that staff request the board of park commissioners approve the following fee changes for the 00:52:44.156 --> 00:52:46.782 - 2027 season at our September 2026 00:52:46.850 --> 00:52:55.964 - Meeting there was the proposed staff report that had the tables of which exactly prices were being changed 00:52:55.964 --> 00:53:04.483 - in which departments And so today we present the actual final 2027 proposed price schedule that has 00:53:04.483 --> 00:53:13.086 - every cost listed that we will charge our patrons in 2027 Any questions about the price schedule and 00:53:13.986 --> 00:53:20.852 - I just I wasn't at the September meeting and I kind of saw in the minutes there wasn't really any Questions 00:53:20.852 --> 00:53:27.401 - or anything that came up was there any other like comments that you gave in your presentation? To kind 00:53:27.401 --> 00:53:34.140 - of summarize like the big changes that were made There was not we didn't really have much of a discussion 00:53:34.140 --> 00:53:40.625 - about the price schedule Everyone was here from each department if there were questions There was not 00:53:40.625 --> 00:53:43.422 - any questions really presented at that time 00:53:43.522 --> 00:53:50.954 - As far I overall like in general I would make the assumption for everyone that prices are increasing 00:53:50.954 --> 00:53:58.386 - So as you can see a lot of the prices have increased and then also some of the pricing has went from 00:53:58.386 --> 00:54:05.891 - In-city and out-of-city pricing as well. So there were some changes being made Those are probably the 00:54:05.891 --> 00:54:12.734 - big biggest is that there was an increase and then the in-city and out-of-city resident fees 00:54:13.346 --> 00:54:19.022 - the percentage of those in-city and out-of-city resident fees where possible to about a 5% equalization. 00:54:19.022 --> 00:54:24.645 - Some of them were more than that, some of them were less than that in terms of the difference. And that 00:54:24.645 --> 00:54:30.105 - this continues to be part of our financial sustainability, looking at our cost recovery goals to new 00:54:30.105 --> 00:54:35.619 - categories that the board approved as part of our master plan and continuing to shift things where we 00:54:35.619 --> 00:54:41.566 - see we are not meeting those cost recovery categories to try to be more in line with what we've set as goals. 00:54:42.498 --> 00:54:49.385 - If you had to pick a few, what were kind of the things that see the highest increases? I don't know. 00:54:49.385 --> 00:54:55.454 - Staff have any other comments about that either? I haven't pulled up right here. I know. 00:54:55.810 --> 00:55:01.849 - One of the larger ones I saw was at Twin Lakes. They hadn't made a price increase for quite some time 00:55:01.849 --> 00:55:07.947 - with their court rentals and Registrations for classes and things for non-members. So that was a large 00:55:07.947 --> 00:55:13.630 - increase I wouldn't say large increase just a minimal increase kind of on each incremental like 00:55:13.730 --> 00:55:19.885 - chairs and tables and those kind of things. And then the other one was we did do an increase on all 00:55:19.885 --> 00:55:26.164 - of our pavilion rentals as well, like in all the parks. Those, again, did not increase significantly, 00:55:26.164 --> 00:55:32.565 - but by a few dollars in each area. And I know Keto's here and can talk to it if needed. The golf course 00:55:32.565 --> 00:55:38.843 - fees did go up. We tried to be really proactive with including some comparisons on other aquatics and 00:55:38.843 --> 00:55:39.582 - golf course 00:55:40.386 --> 00:55:47.855 - Regional facilities that are comparable and knowing that the board has wanted to see that in the past 00:55:47.855 --> 00:55:55.470 - So tried to be proactive and put that in there ahead of time. I Think we're still very We're still very 00:55:55.470 --> 00:56:02.938 - competitive and yeah, you know a lot of those arenas Curious I was just one question I had that I saw 00:56:02.938 --> 00:56:06.526 - two unnatural resources is the paddle rental and 00:56:06.818 --> 00:56:14.963 - Does that mean that if you do an hour rental? It's $17 of rental because you have to rent the watercraft 00:56:14.963 --> 00:56:23.341 - for 12 plus the paddle rental for five Sorry I Don't care So if you go to Griffey and you rent a watercraft 00:56:23.341 --> 00:56:28.926 - from us a lifejacket and paddles included for a single rider kayaks one 00:56:29.058 --> 00:56:34.400 - One paddle one life jacket for canoe two paddles two life jackets. Sometimes people have young children. 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:39.589 - They want to add on need an extra cushion They want to hold the paddle or you have a personal and you 00:56:39.589 --> 00:56:44.779 - could not find your own paddle and you didn't want to ruin your plans So you can rent an extra paddle 00:56:44.779 --> 00:56:50.070 - from us and we're just trying to you know, especially because it costs staff cost after all to maintain 00:56:50.070 --> 00:56:55.361 - that so we're sure Yeah, I just just yeah that clarity on that. Yeah, perfect. Okay. Thanks and I guess 00:56:55.361 --> 00:56:57.854 - going back to cemetery I don't know guys I think 00:56:58.306 --> 00:57:08.595 - I'm glad you benchmarked with other municipalities, but it seems like kind of a good deal for like 1,200 00:57:08.595 --> 00:57:18.591 - bucks for 50 years if you do. Yeah. And there's cheaper ones than that on there. Yeah, exactly. Tough 00:57:18.591 --> 00:57:27.998 - way to get cheap rent, though. Any more jokes, or should we have a motion to approve the price? 00:57:29.090 --> 00:57:42.294 - All right, all those in favor aye Motion is carried and then finally in section CC 10. Rebecca is back 00:57:42.294 --> 00:57:47.678 - with the rail trail temporary closure and 00:57:48.898 --> 00:57:54.538 - This one in so Rebecca Swift operations and development division director I'm here to recommend a full 00:57:54.538 --> 00:58:00.014 - closure of the Bloomington rail trail starting next week on Tuesday, October 20th This is so we can 00:58:00.014 --> 00:58:05.599 - have a contractor bluestone come in and remove several large log jams that were caused from a tornado 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:11.130 - in May 2025 So we partnered with the county highway department and actually received some funding to 00:58:11.130 --> 00:58:16.606 - contribute to the service But it will require a full trail closure. We don't want anybody trying to 00:58:16.674 --> 00:58:24.033 - Pass around when they have big equipment out there I did just confirm with the contractor today that 00:58:24.033 --> 00:58:31.392 - they do plan on removing the barricades When the workday is done, so the trail will be accessible in 00:58:31.392 --> 00:58:38.678 - the evenings They're anticipating about three days, but we buffered it in with a fourth day in case 00:58:38.678 --> 00:58:46.110 - we have some weather delays next week Happy to answer any questions All right, and all those in favor 00:58:46.402 --> 00:58:55.596 - Motion carried. Thanks, Rebecca Then in our section D reports, Tim has the Indiana community parks initiative 00:58:55.596 --> 00:59:04.456 - grant update Yes, good evening again just wanted to give an update on this grant following our discussion 00:59:04.456 --> 00:59:07.966 - about investment priorities two weeks ago 00:59:08.130 --> 00:59:13.338 - And the great discussion we had that evening, I thought that was a really great meeting. I thought we 00:59:13.338 --> 00:59:18.495 - had a lot of really great public engagement, learned some things from people who are passionate user 00:59:18.495 --> 00:59:23.651 - groups of many of our different facilities. That was really helpful. So where we are overall in sort 00:59:23.651 --> 00:59:28.961 - of the grand scheme of things is this really generous community parks initiative. Grant has come along, 00:59:28.961 --> 00:59:34.067 - we've learned of it just a few weeks ago. Board, as you're aware, and as I said at that meeting, we 00:59:34.067 --> 00:59:36.926 - were working towards issuing a municipal bond of around 00:59:37.090 --> 00:59:42.984 - potentially $7 million to work towards some of these investment priorities. The grant opens 00:59:42.984 --> 00:59:49.390 - up the possibility that we could get up to $10 million from the grant alone. The grant is funded by 00:59:49.390 --> 00:59:55.796 - the Lilly Endowment. It requires a planning phase. So we've kind of asked some questions about that 00:59:55.796 --> 01:00:02.266 - to understand that a little bit more. We just finished our master plan, so we've been doing a lot of 01:00:02.266 --> 01:00:05.918 - planning, and we can certainly use that as a springboard 01:00:06.050 --> 01:00:12.531 - for what we're gonna do next, but the planning phase is still required. They wanna see community engagement 01:00:12.531 --> 01:00:18.532 - in this planning phase. So first, by the end of the month, we need to apply for a $200,000 planning 01:00:18.532 --> 01:00:24.652 - grant. What we've been looking at for that is how do we go on from the efforts we've already done? We 01:00:24.652 --> 01:00:30.713 - already have this draft investment priorities plan. We already have a master plan. So where do we go 01:00:30.713 --> 01:00:35.934 - from there in terms of getting more information and what we're circling in on for this 01:00:36.130 --> 01:00:42.314 - this application, which is more or less guaranteed. They said the planning grant is noncompetitive. 01:00:42.314 --> 01:00:48.745 - So as long as we check the box, we submit a good application, we can expect to get all or most of those 01:00:48.745 --> 01:00:55.177 - planning funds. So we are looking at things like bringing some outside help on board. This is obviously 01:00:55.177 --> 01:01:01.423 - going to be a big scope increase, too, for what we're looking at trying to get. So some things like, 01:01:01.423 --> 01:01:05.566 - well, one, before I get to any kind of consultant or outside help, 01:01:05.826 --> 01:01:12.319 - what we're looking at right now is really lining up our investment priorities with the various funding 01:01:12.319 --> 01:01:18.812 - opportunities available to us. So that includes first and foremost, this grant opportunity. So we want 01:01:18.812 --> 01:01:25.242 - to get this application in, do the planning, and then submit the full application for the $10 million 01:01:25.242 --> 01:01:31.736 - implementation middle of the year next year. By virtue of that timing, we are not pursuing a municipal 01:01:31.736 --> 01:01:35.518 - bond in the early part of 2027 because we first need to see 01:01:35.842 --> 01:01:41.341 - what we're able to put into this grant and what we get out of this grant. A municipal bond is still 01:01:41.341 --> 01:01:46.841 - on the table, and we can look at that as and after we see what kind of projects were awarded in the 01:01:46.841 --> 01:01:52.450 - implementation grant. I'm, of course, hopeful. I'm quite optimistic that we may apply for 10 million. 01:01:52.450 --> 01:01:58.169 - We may not get the full 10 million, of course, of everything we apply for, but I'm very optimistic that 01:01:58.169 --> 01:02:01.854 - we're going to get a portion of that to go towards these projects. 01:02:02.786 --> 01:02:08.152 - So things we're looking at, you know, further engagement for the planning grant with an eye towards 01:02:08.152 --> 01:02:13.839 - how we put these items in the implementation grant. You know, further engagement on moving into a concept 01:02:13.839 --> 01:02:19.366 - design on the Bryant Park pool renovation that we've been discussing from ratio. Mills pool sustaining 01:02:19.366 --> 01:02:24.839 - repairs, as we talked about. Staff are still working on some information on that. We thought we might 01:02:24.839 --> 01:02:30.205 - have a staff report tonight. We want things to be a little more concrete before we come back to you 01:02:30.205 --> 01:02:32.190 - with an amount that we're looking at 01:02:32.962 --> 01:02:39.144 - because some of those things may just need to be done before we wait for a grant or a municipal bond 01:02:39.144 --> 01:02:40.062 - cycle as well. 01:02:40.354 --> 01:02:45.946 - Sport court repairs and investments, obviously we're gonna need a little bit of design and expertise 01:02:45.946 --> 01:02:51.815 - to do some of the things that we talked about. The multi-use games area will require some design. Looking 01:02:51.815 --> 01:02:57.684 - at things like making sure our lighting is appropriate and it's not spilling over. And we've been looking 01:02:57.684 --> 01:03:03.442 - at this at RCA Park, you know, the lighting for the pickleball isn't spilling over and trespassing into 01:03:03.442 --> 01:03:08.702 - neighbors yards. Looking at playgrounds, we identified Alcott as a priority in our investment. 01:03:08.898 --> 01:03:15.830 - priorities. There are other old playgrounds that the opportunity of moving from 7 million to 10 million 01:03:15.830 --> 01:03:22.496 - may give us the opportunity to do some more at building trades or some of our other older ones like 01:03:22.496 --> 01:03:29.229 - Lower Cascades, Schmalls, Highland, some of those neighborhood parks. Going to look at some arts and 01:03:29.229 --> 01:03:36.161 - culture items actually in the, one of the big priorities that Lilly and the CPI has put in this is sort 01:03:36.161 --> 01:03:38.494 - of this arts culture place making. 01:03:38.722 --> 01:03:44.563 - one of the contracts you all approved actually in the consent calendar tonight was a structural inspection 01:03:44.563 --> 01:03:50.131 - of the Buskirk-Jumley marquee. That hasn't been done in some time. Management at BCT has expressed an 01:03:50.131 --> 01:03:55.699 - interest in doing a restoration project for the marquee, which as we all know is an iconic, you know, 01:03:55.699 --> 01:04:01.267 - when you think of visual destinations in Bloomington, you think of that dog bone Indiana sign, right? 01:04:01.267 --> 01:04:04.542 - So, you know, doing an inspection, a structural inspection, 01:04:05.090 --> 01:04:10.781 - now before the end of the year will lay the groundwork for maybe future planning efforts as the owners 01:04:10.781 --> 01:04:16.583 - of that building for us to identify some grant funds for arts and culture that could could go into that. 01:04:16.583 --> 01:04:22.218 - Identifying some other other maybe arts projects or public art repairs we could do. Looking at things 01:04:22.218 --> 01:04:27.744 - like our Winslow stormwater project which we've talked about mitigating that three acres. There are 01:04:27.744 --> 01:04:32.606 - design dollars needed for that in partnership with CBU doing an outdoor light audit for 01:04:32.930 --> 01:04:39.066 - dark sky and further LED conversion, something we could look at. A canopy assessment for urban forestry 01:04:39.066 --> 01:04:45.025 - came up, something we could potentially do. Looking at master planning for Wapahane, that came up in 01:04:45.025 --> 01:04:47.326 - our master plan, doing a site-specific 01:04:47.490 --> 01:04:52.771 - development plan for Wapahane because it is underutilized. Trail planning, you know, planning for where 01:04:52.771 --> 01:04:57.849 - our worst sections are, where we need to do the most intervention. And then just general, you know, 01:04:57.849 --> 01:05:03.028 - making sure we do some general community engagement on this as well. Those are all sort of the topics 01:05:03.028 --> 01:05:08.106 - we're looking at for this planning grant that could then have the next step into the implementation 01:05:08.106 --> 01:05:13.286 - grant, which would be due mid-year next year. So I just wanted to give that update, take any feedback 01:05:13.286 --> 01:05:15.774 - you all have on how we are working towards that. 01:05:15.938 --> 01:05:22.240 - reached out to city council members. We currently have a form online that Julie has based on the investment 01:05:22.240 --> 01:05:28.134 - priorities that we're getting public feedback on that runs until, do you remember when Julie? Sunday 01:05:28.134 --> 01:05:34.087 - night the 18th. Sunday night the 18th. So we'll have that feedback to come back to the board as well, 01:05:34.087 --> 01:05:39.981 - as well as some other final master plan feedback received so we can adopt that investment priorities 01:05:39.981 --> 01:05:44.766 - plan and lots of puzzle pieces, but I think they're all gonna fit together. Okay. 01:05:45.122 --> 01:05:52.941 - Thanks, Tim, and it's exciting to have this option now, yeah, and be able to arrange the priorities 01:05:52.941 --> 01:06:01.150 - around the funding. Any questions, comments? I didn't notice. I was walking on Kirkwood the other night, 01:06:01.150 --> 01:06:08.969 - and I hadn't really looked at the Buskirk Chumley marquee recently, and it did look a little tired. 01:06:08.969 --> 01:06:10.142 - It does, yeah. 01:06:10.818 --> 01:06:16.248 - The intent of the grant and what I was reading and some of the things they really want to fund. I think 01:06:16.248 --> 01:06:21.574 - it would be a perfect fit for the grant. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. And I like the I like the focus on 01:06:21.574 --> 01:06:27.160 - maybe some of the other playgrounds that maybe haven't had some attention for a while. So I think building 01:06:27.160 --> 01:06:32.538 - trades would be a really big opportunity. Yeah. Having just done those phase one improvements and also 01:06:32.538 --> 01:06:38.021 - understanding there is a neighborhood building there. You know we did not put a playground into Hopewell 01:06:38.021 --> 01:06:39.326 - helping with some of it. 01:06:39.490 --> 01:06:47.082 - Just design issues and in use of that park. I think could be really good. Yeah Okay, great. Well, thank 01:06:47.082 --> 01:06:54.529 - you for that Then finally this evening we have if there's any public comment here in person or online 01:06:54.529 --> 01:07:02.048 - nobody online Nobody in person. Okay. All right, and then Tim, do you have any other announcements for 01:07:02.048 --> 01:07:05.406 - us? Just a few things to close us out tonight 01:07:05.538 --> 01:07:11.143 - First, I just want to say thank you. I just always appreciate our board meetings and your service and 01:07:11.143 --> 01:07:16.748 - our robust questions and jokes and the things we get to do in the course of a board meeting. So a few 01:07:16.748 --> 01:07:22.628 - things going on. You are going to see a call for public art out there soon for the Miller Showers gateway. 01:07:22.628 --> 01:07:28.233 - Board members, you might recall that when we did the whole redesign, we'd said we committed a portion 01:07:28.233 --> 01:07:32.190 - of that budget towards a public art piece to go along with the gateway. 01:07:32.514 --> 01:07:38.302 - The ESD department through Paige who's wonderful is Getting to that call. So you're gonna see that go 01:07:38.302 --> 01:07:44.148 - out. It's not new funds. It's not anything new or wasn't planned It's it's the same funds we earmarked 01:07:44.148 --> 01:07:49.822 - Back when we we settled on the whole redesign and project budget. So very excited for that. I think 01:07:49.822 --> 01:07:55.554 - it could be really cool As mentioned Mills pool, we're gonna have an update for you soon We're still 01:07:55.554 --> 01:08:00.094 - working on some fact-finding and getting our figures as dialed in as possible I 01:08:01.794 --> 01:08:08.409 - Mentioned a few events coming up as well. We've got skate and scare this Saturday at the ice arena Ice 01:08:08.409 --> 01:08:14.960 - arena is often running. It's busy all the time We've got festival of ghost stories in Bryan Park next 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:21.768 - Friday the 23rd pumpkin launch The 24th, of course Griffey boathouse. We're nearing the end of the season 01:08:21.768 --> 01:08:27.870 - for that as well So get out there fall color is just starting and enjoy that while you can and 01:08:28.002 --> 01:08:34.793 - And then a couple scheduling things coming up at our November meeting We're gonna have a discussion 01:08:34.793 --> 01:08:41.583 - about park hours I'm gonna bring some background information to the board and a recommendation, but 01:08:41.583 --> 01:08:48.510 - we are open to discussion About where we go with park hours We mentioned it earlier, you know, we are 01:08:48.642 --> 01:08:54.378 - Reducing our security dollars next year out of necessity no longer have ARPA funds I think the time 01:08:54.378 --> 01:09:00.287 - is right to look at our park hours and make a decision So we want to have a robust discussion with the 01:09:00.287 --> 01:09:06.138 - board about that at our November meeting We do have a park suspension appeal Which I think by default 01:09:06.138 --> 01:09:12.276 - we will probably do We will probably do it on the 12th. I like to schedule that as its own special meeting 01:09:12.276 --> 01:09:16.062 - so we may end our regular meeting and do the suspension appeal or 01:09:16.290 --> 01:09:22.737 - vice versa depending on the order I'll talk to board members about scheduling And then that next regular 01:09:22.737 --> 01:09:29.123 - meeting is November 12th four weeks from today And then before the end of the year, we do plan to bring 01:09:29.123 --> 01:09:35.386 - back The master plan which we've expanded for DNR feedback Not with anything new decision-making wise 01:09:35.386 --> 01:09:42.078 - just with sort of encyclopedic information about the department for reapproval readoption and the investment 01:09:42.078 --> 01:09:44.350 - priorities plan for adoption as well 01:09:45.282 --> 01:09:51.771 - That is all I had. Thank you Okay. All right. Thank you Tim And with that I'll adjourn the October meeting 01:09:51.771 --> 01:09:54.622 - of the Bloomington Board of Park commissioners