WEBVTT 00:00:00.322 --> 00:00:08.549 - All right, welcome everyone to the September Bloomington Urban Enterprise Association board meeting. 00:00:08.549 --> 00:00:16.775 - It is 1204 by my clock and take it away Heather for a roll call. All right, everyone welcome. Thanks 00:00:16.775 --> 00:00:24.350 - for flexing the schedule this month. Appreciate that. So we'll do around the room roll call. 00:00:25.314 --> 00:00:34.735 - Kate Rosenbarger, BUEA. Jane Cooper-Smith, BUEA. Heather Robinson, BUEA. Megan Gardner, Staff. Virginia 00:00:34.735 --> 00:00:44.608 - Gethary, BUEA. Vidal Rosa, Staff. Ron Whistler, BUEA. And then our guests in the back. Tanya. John Scowette. 00:00:44.608 --> 00:00:53.214 - Sue West. And then our folks online. Felisa, you want to start? Felisa Spinali, BUEA. And then 00:00:54.306 --> 00:01:07.587 - And then Eric, if you don't mind introducing yourself. Great. Thank you. All right. Thanks, everyone. 00:01:07.587 --> 00:01:20.999 - Welcome. What's up? Approval of minutes. Yes. Did anyone have any comments, corrections on the minutes 00:01:20.999 --> 00:01:24.254 - from the August meeting? 00:01:27.938 --> 00:01:37.083 - Hearing none, if we can do a roll call for approval of the minutes. Oh, we need a, sorry, we need a 00:01:37.083 --> 00:01:46.227 - motion. Sorry, my brain. Second. And then a roll call for approval. Okay, Michael Humber, yes. Kate 00:01:46.227 --> 00:01:55.646 - Rosenberger, yes. Jane Coopersmith, yes. Heather Robinson, yes. Virginia Getheter, yes. Remisler, yes. 00:01:56.642 --> 00:02:04.020 - Felicia Spinelli, yes. All right, great. All right. The director's report. OK. As you can tell, we're 00:02:04.020 --> 00:02:11.759 - whizzing through everything because we have a lot of grants to get through. First of all, mission, vision, 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:19.136 - and values planning. So according to everybody's schedules, it's been difficult. But we've set a date 00:02:19.136 --> 00:02:22.174 - for Monday, October 5 at 530 at the mill. 00:02:22.434 --> 00:02:29.453 - Obviously, we don't have to have every single person there, but I would like to have at least four or 00:02:29.453 --> 00:02:36.540 - five board members there. So if this is, I just need to know who can make it and who cannot. If we end 00:02:36.540 --> 00:02:43.627 - up having low attendance, then I will do my best to try and reschedule something, but it's been really 00:02:43.627 --> 00:02:50.508 - difficult just coordinating schedules. So it was just like, I gotta pick a date and we gotta do it. 00:02:50.508 --> 00:02:51.678 - So that is that. 00:02:52.482 --> 00:03:00.965 - So we'll have a sense October 5th, which is a Monday evening. It's going to be an hour. No, 00:03:00.965 --> 00:03:10.462 - this is the 30th. Yeah, the commissioner's training is the 30th. That's the thing that I forgot to put 00:03:10.462 --> 00:03:19.867 - in my director's report. The board and commission training for every board member and commissioner is 00:03:19.867 --> 00:03:21.342 - September 30th. 00:03:21.762 --> 00:03:30.613 - In city council chambers from 530 to 730, there's also an online option. It is required of every board 00:03:30.613 --> 00:03:39.549 - member and commissioner to take this training. So if you have not yet, please do. And I know that there 00:03:39.549 --> 00:03:48.314 - were a couple of people who may have taken it in June. We're still trying to figure out the record of 00:03:48.314 --> 00:03:50.462 - that. Oh, sorry. Oh, OK. 00:03:51.426 --> 00:03:58.820 - So that's required. Do you guys want to know on the public record who still needs to take their training? 00:03:58.820 --> 00:04:05.865 - Yep. I know I do. I signed up. OK. OK. So sorry, back to October 5. So that is the day I'll be back. 00:04:05.865 --> 00:04:12.980 - So I may or may not be here. OK. So here are the people, Felisa, Katarina, Heather, and Virginia. OK. 00:04:12.980 --> 00:04:20.862 - So you guys are good. So that's the mandatory training on September 30. Do you want me to send an invite to you? 00:04:21.826 --> 00:04:32.596 - I've got it. I'm signed up. OK. OK. So October 5th. Kate, what's your? I'm out of town. I am out until 00:04:32.596 --> 00:04:43.367 - mid-November, basically. There's a chance on October 5th I could zoom in if that is a possibility. But 00:04:43.367 --> 00:04:49.118 - I know it just changes the dynamics. OK. Good to know. 00:04:49.762 --> 00:05:00.868 - You may or may not? Yeah, I'm tentative. I should be traveling back that particular day. Tentative, 00:05:00.868 --> 00:05:12.418 - Brad? I am in town. I have a conflicting event on my calendar that I think I can move. OK. So 60%, yes. 00:05:12.418 --> 00:05:18.526 - 60%, yes. I can make it. I'm supposed to be making it. 00:05:19.490 --> 00:05:27.324 - But this is not the training that I need. No, this is not the training that you need. So the mission, 00:05:27.324 --> 00:05:35.005 - vision, and value planning is for our overall strategic plan for the PUEA. Essentially what's going 00:05:35.005 --> 00:05:42.916 - to happen, it's an hour long. We're going to go through training with Michelle King, who has a company 00:05:42.916 --> 00:05:48.830 - called Phone Box. And she's done this for major corporations and nonprofits. 00:05:48.962 --> 00:05:54.956 - just to kind of get our bearings as a board. I don't think that that's happened in a really long time 00:05:54.956 --> 00:06:00.951 - for the BUEA. And this is gonna inform some of the decisions and the planning for the budget for 2027 00:06:00.951 --> 00:06:06.710 - and in the future. Like I said, it's an hour long training. She's going to take that information, 00:06:06.710 --> 00:06:13.116 - process it, which will take her probably about a couple weeks, and then kind of come back with her findings. 00:06:13.116 --> 00:06:17.406 - And then we'll be able to kind of make a plan moving forward from there. 00:06:17.538 --> 00:06:24.518 - Um, but, uh, it's a really important input session. It's nice to take it out of city hall and have it 00:06:24.518 --> 00:06:31.362 - someplace else so we can kind of get out of the framework and mindset of just this one hour meeting 00:06:31.362 --> 00:06:38.206 - that we have monthly, um, and trying to make this as efficient as possible. So, um, okay. So, okay. 00:06:38.206 --> 00:06:42.654 - Andy, I have, um, you have redevelopment commission. No, I have. 00:06:44.130 --> 00:06:52.217 - town hall with the mayor, but I'll see if I can get someone else to take it, because I really don't 00:06:52.217 --> 00:07:00.305 - want to miss this. It was really important. I just did. If there are questions I could answer ahead 00:07:00.305 --> 00:07:08.392 - of time for the October 5th, I would. Sure. OK. Because I am bummed. I want to just add, if this is 00:07:08.392 --> 00:07:13.406 - like a medical situation for me, I'm not going on a fun trip. 00:07:13.538 --> 00:07:22.958 - So I just want to put that out there. But if I could do some stuff ahead of time for it. For sure. OK. 00:07:22.958 --> 00:07:31.647 - So I have five. Yeah, I think we're good. Great. And then I'm meeting with Michelle next week. 00:07:31.647 --> 00:07:41.342 - So we'll see. I'll hit her up and see if there can be some type of questionnaire or something to get some 00:07:41.602 --> 00:07:49.808 - critical information from those of you who can't make it. OK? Great. So also, I mentioned the budget. 00:07:49.808 --> 00:07:57.290 - I was going to have a draft for you guys to be able to look at today because we have so many 00:07:57.290 --> 00:08:05.336 - grant applications that came in between our last meeting and this meeting. I want to make sure that 00:08:05.336 --> 00:08:06.462 - these all get 00:08:06.882 --> 00:08:13.517 - through and into the process before we start all of our administrative stuff for the end of the year, 00:08:13.517 --> 00:08:20.152 - because I know that our meetings are probably gonna end up running longer if possible, and we're just 00:08:20.152 --> 00:08:26.917 - kind of on a tight timeline to the fourth quarter of the year, which is insane to say out loud. I would 00:08:26.917 --> 00:08:33.617 - like to extend the regular session meeting next month by 30 minutes, either before or after, whichever 00:08:33.617 --> 00:08:34.398 - works best. 00:08:34.530 --> 00:08:41.895 - Um, and then, um, the November and December meetings had, uh, we had, according to, um, the calendar 00:08:41.895 --> 00:08:49.261 - that I made at the beginning of the year already had extensions, um, for 30 minutes because we'll be 00:08:49.261 --> 00:08:56.554 - going through the budget process. So, um, that I would like to have that by vote or I guess I don't 00:08:56.554 --> 00:09:01.950 - need it by vote. I think I just need to have a confirmation as to whether 00:09:02.562 --> 00:09:11.072 - we can do an extra 30 minutes next month. I can do an extra. I prefer it on the later end. OK. Let me 00:09:11.072 --> 00:09:19.415 - look at that. So that is October 21st. I pushed that. No, you're up. OK. I'm good. And you're good. 00:09:19.415 --> 00:09:27.925 - Yeah, either way. Me too, either way. OK. I would rather it be earlier. Yeah. I can do it either way. 00:09:27.925 --> 00:09:28.926 - Either way. 00:09:33.442 --> 00:10:02.718 - Okay. Yes. Before or after? Okay, great. Okay, wonderful. 00:10:04.290 --> 00:10:14.874 - And then I will confirm all of that via email to the board as far as that schedule change. Oh, and Jane, 00:10:14.874 --> 00:10:24.955 - how about you? Good? Yes. Before or after would be better? For which? For October. I'm sorry, guys. 00:10:24.955 --> 00:10:32.414 - No, you're good. I think before. OK. All right. Let me see what I can do. 00:10:33.730 --> 00:10:43.905 - Either is good, Dee. OK. So next month, MCCSE and CDFI are going to give their annual reports, which 00:10:43.905 --> 00:10:54.180 - is partially why I wanted to extend the meeting so they have enough time. All right. So I guess let's 00:10:54.180 --> 00:10:56.094 - get right into it. 00:10:57.218 --> 00:11:03.814 - We have several capital improvement grants, which I'm really excited about. I put them in order 00:11:03.814 --> 00:11:10.684 - of submission. The first that we have up is, and I guess I shouldn't inform you guys, because we do 00:11:10.684 --> 00:11:17.898 - have so many, I kind of put a little bit of structure on this. So I'm going to just present the proposal 00:11:17.898 --> 00:11:23.326 - in general to the board, and then they're going to get round one of questions. 00:11:23.490 --> 00:11:30.246 - either I can answer them or you can answer them when we're to your grant. And then you have about two 00:11:30.246 --> 00:11:37.466 - minutes to three minutes to answer the question. And then we'll do a second round of questions if necessary. 00:11:37.466 --> 00:11:44.223 - I wanna make sure in the first round that everybody gets all of their first round questions in before 00:11:44.223 --> 00:11:50.979 - somebody asks the second question. And then we can have some deliberation time if necessary after the 00:11:50.979 --> 00:11:51.774 - fact, okay? 00:11:53.186 --> 00:12:03.228 - So first up is Merth for a business building improvement grant and I'm gonna start sharing. Give me 00:12:03.228 --> 00:12:04.734 - just a second. 00:12:24.770 --> 00:12:34.336 - Sorry about that, guys. There we go. So Merth is on Kirkwood in Fountain Square Mall. This property 00:12:34.336 --> 00:12:44.477 - is a lease property. They are renting from CFC. The project summary is the removal of drywall and plaster 00:12:44.477 --> 00:12:53.182 - to expose and refurbish an existing brick wall, per Bolden instruction group change order. 00:12:53.378 --> 00:13:06.845 - The total renovation cost of this project was $19,813. Their funding request is $9,550. So they have 00:13:06.845 --> 00:13:21.246 - absolutely hit the matching requirement. And they have not ever received a grant from us. So there is also. 00:13:21.730 --> 00:13:42.792 - If you would like to see the finished product, if I can get in here. I think this will open it up. So 00:13:42.792 --> 00:13:46.302 - that's the wall. 00:13:49.954 --> 00:13:59.254 - And it's a larger expansion. So the entire expansion of the business was over $100,000. I think it was 00:13:59.254 --> 00:14:08.644 - $150,000. So major improvement to the downtown. I went to the opening. It was fantastic. I cried. Yeah, 00:14:08.644 --> 00:14:18.846 - I totally cried. I was super choked up. These ladies have been working really hard from pop-up to this. So yeah. 00:14:24.354 --> 00:14:31.161 - amazing landlord that CFC is for, you know, also putting in everything they did for construction and 00:14:31.161 --> 00:14:38.036 - what they do for the building in the downtown. So they did some really cool, I think I would hope the 00:14:38.036 --> 00:14:45.113 - board members feel invited to go in there and check it out. They did some really cool stuff like exposed 00:14:45.113 --> 00:14:49.022 - brick and exposed some steel beams that were original and 00:14:50.754 --> 00:14:58.095 - So do any board members have any questions? We do have Susan West here from Merth. If you do have any 00:14:58.095 --> 00:15:05.364 - questions regarding this. No? And I mentioned they would be here, but they are both on a buying trip 00:15:05.364 --> 00:15:12.777 - today. It's only two days a year, once in the spring and once in the winter. And today's the day. They 00:15:12.777 --> 00:15:20.478 - are on a buying trip, and Indianapolis are both on a buying trip. So lucky to you guys. It's a nice place. 00:15:21.122 --> 00:15:28.016 - All right. My only question is, so is this a, are we reimbursing or is there still work that's? This 00:15:28.016 --> 00:15:34.843 - is a reimbursement. Okay. Yes. So all of the work has been completed. Okay. I will say it's similar 00:15:34.843 --> 00:15:41.874 - to Andrew Davis. We had a grant. I'm not sure, Katarina, if you were here for that one. We had a grant 00:15:41.874 --> 00:15:47.198 - that came to us for Andrew Davis who also has a retail in Fountain Square and 00:15:47.458 --> 00:15:54.234 - It was a similar situation as a reimbursement against CFC put a lot into it as well, as did the tenant. 00:15:54.234 --> 00:16:00.750 - And so it was a reimbursement for work. And I do want to add that they were not expecting this wall 00:16:00.750 --> 00:16:07.917 - to be there when they did their initial, like the initial project was not supposed to include the restoration 00:16:07.917 --> 00:16:14.302 - of this wall, hence the additional cost and the potential for a grant to help them out with that. 00:16:19.970 --> 00:16:28.187 - Any other questions? One other question, please. So the 9550, is that going to the business or to CSE 00:16:28.187 --> 00:16:36.888 - properties? That will go to the business. So that's part of their portion. As I read through the materials, 00:16:36.888 --> 00:16:45.025 - my right, too, on that, as I went through part of the portion that they paid for. So their total was 00:16:45.025 --> 00:16:49.214 - just under $20,000. So they're asking for the 9550. 00:16:49.698 --> 00:16:56.542 - It's reimbursement for the business building. And that wall is beautiful. I mean, what an improvement, 00:16:56.542 --> 00:17:03.452 - truly, for the space. All right. Are we good? Do we feel good? Are we ready to vote on this? Do we have 00:17:03.452 --> 00:17:10.097 - a motion? Motion. Second? Second. All right. Roll call. Michael Hooger, yes. Kate Rosenberger, yes. 00:17:10.097 --> 00:17:17.406 - Jane Coopersmith, yes. Heather Robinson, yes. Virginia Gutierrez, yes. Henry Nicole, yes. Brad Whistler, yes. 00:17:18.626 --> 00:17:29.911 - Lisa Spinelli, yes. All right. Thank you very much. All right, Dean, what's our next one? Next, I don't 00:17:29.911 --> 00:17:40.761 - think we have a representative from the Cherry Canary Building. So this is a historic facade grant. 00:17:40.761 --> 00:17:46.078 - This is two facades, and I'll pull this back up. 00:17:53.730 --> 00:18:05.211 - So if you're not familiar with the Cherry Canary Building, it is on 4th Street, the corner of 4th and 00:18:05.211 --> 00:18:16.242 - Gentry. Am I the only person who had to look up Gentry? I honestly lived here for how many years? 00:18:16.242 --> 00:18:21.982 - I was like, Gentry? How did I? OK. I was like, oh. 00:18:23.362 --> 00:18:32.442 - So this is a facade grant basically for tuck pointing, masonry restoration, and limestone silver placement 00:18:32.442 --> 00:18:41.013 - to be a craft and chipped brickwork on both facades. Olympus Properties is the property manager, and 00:18:41.013 --> 00:18:49.584 - Fox Property Development is the contractor. This property is actually owned by Stardust Development. 00:18:49.584 --> 00:18:52.894 - And so yeah, I think that you can tell 00:18:53.154 --> 00:19:03.898 - There's some serious repair that does need to be done to this property. As far as I know, they're still 00:19:03.898 --> 00:19:14.333 - in the process of making this happen. The total cost of the project is $48,200. And for the historic 00:19:14.333 --> 00:19:22.494 - facade grant, just to remind everyone, we're able to grant $10,000 per facade. 00:19:22.978 --> 00:19:32.122 - So they're asking for the $10,000 for the 214 West 4th Street, and then $10,000 for the 127 South Gentry 00:19:32.122 --> 00:19:41.265 - Street. And they're both in the historic district, or the buildings in the historic courthouse district. 00:19:41.265 --> 00:19:50.235 - And I know I ask this all the time, so this one has been through HPC. This was recommended or referred 00:19:50.235 --> 00:19:51.454 - to us by HPC. 00:19:53.890 --> 00:20:02.586 - out who the grantee would be. Olympus is the property manager. Stardust development is the applicant. 00:20:02.586 --> 00:20:11.453 - It looks like it's owned by the Ferguson's. They're the representative. So they're serving as the point 00:20:11.453 --> 00:20:20.064 - of contact for the applicant. So it's local. It's all local. It's all local. OK. Not that that's one 00:20:20.064 --> 00:20:22.622 - of our criteria, but I'm just 00:20:24.450 --> 00:20:34.019 - The only question I have beyond who was actually applying, is it for the entire facade? I see there's 00:20:34.019 --> 00:20:43.682 - two addresses from Gentry on, and I just want to make sure it's giving the whole side of the building. 00:20:43.682 --> 00:20:53.438 - Yes. OK. Most of the pictures were on the 4th Street. Right. So this guy, and then I think that this is 00:20:53.538 --> 00:21:01.484 - the section that is gentry. So if you, I don't know if they do a full photo of that, but I have walked 00:21:01.484 --> 00:21:09.738 - up, there it is. Yes. So to the left of the picture, there's another property with the rest of the facade. 00:21:09.738 --> 00:21:16.990 - I'm just making sure that, is it the whole facade or is it just the front half of the facade? 00:21:17.154 --> 00:21:22.614 - I believe that it's the whole facade. I can clarify that if you'd like before we move forward. Just 00:21:22.614 --> 00:21:28.238 - something to consider. It would be kind of odd further to be a brake line where half has been restored 00:21:28.238 --> 00:21:32.606 - and half is not. No, absolutely. I'm just kind of curious about that. For sure. 00:21:45.570 --> 00:21:52.529 - I was just trying to look again at not the ownership. So it looks like Stardust Development owns it. 00:21:52.529 --> 00:21:59.557 - Is that also Ferguson Law, basically? I mean, it looks because it looks like it was Ferguson and then 00:21:59.557 --> 00:22:06.516 - it was transferred. From my understanding from the application, that yes. They're like the same, but 00:22:06.516 --> 00:22:12.510 - it's an LLC. OK. Yeah, it looks like David and Tyler Ferguson or Stardust Development. 00:22:24.898 --> 00:22:35.780 - Any other questions for me? I will do my best to answer them. I know this is dense. There's a lot in 00:22:35.780 --> 00:22:46.553 - there. So everyone, take your time if you need to. And then looking at, we do want to table this so 00:22:46.553 --> 00:22:51.294 - I can get some more answers from the group. 00:22:51.650 --> 00:22:59.318 - Happy to do that. If you want to move forward, that's fine, too. I'm trying to untangle the addresses 00:22:59.318 --> 00:23:06.986 - directly. I think it's 117 is the other address. I think so, but it's listed in the report as 127. So 00:23:06.986 --> 00:23:14.578 - I think it's 117 South Gentry is what it is. And that's on the Gentry side. There's two addresses on 00:23:14.578 --> 00:23:17.886 - that facade. 127 is, I think, the chairing. 00:23:20.546 --> 00:23:29.860 - So there's 214 West 4th Street, which is Cherry Canaries door and 127 South Gentry is what's listed 00:23:29.860 --> 00:23:39.174 - as that West side door. However, the address on Gentry is actually 117 in the adjacent building and 00:23:39.174 --> 00:23:46.718 - like physically separate brick building is listed as 113. So the building. Yeah. 00:23:47.010 --> 00:23:54.832 - by Mike Smith is 113. So I suspect the 127 is actually 117 and is that whole building. But I wonder 00:23:54.832 --> 00:24:03.124 - if we're going to, if we vote to approve, if it could be conditional upon desverification of the address. 00:24:03.124 --> 00:24:11.024 - I guess in my mind it actually, I mean, I'm just curious, but I mean, the money is still per facade. 00:24:11.024 --> 00:24:14.622 - I think it's an improvement that can be done. 00:24:14.914 --> 00:24:24.906 - Regardless, I still would like it to be done. But I'm just kind of curious if they drew a line where 00:24:24.906 --> 00:24:35.095 - the business owner was responsible for it or not. So it sounds like we need some clarification on that 00:24:35.095 --> 00:24:41.822 - side of the facade. OK. Other thoughts or questions about the swim? 00:24:46.018 --> 00:24:55.426 - Does everyone feel good being able to vote on it with a condition that D clarifies the facade? Though, 00:24:55.426 --> 00:25:04.651 - I mean, what's then? So if it comes back. Yeah, I don't think it would change my mind. I still think 00:25:04.651 --> 00:25:13.694 - it needs done. But I'm just kind of curious how that all works. OK, so we need some clarification. 00:25:14.050 --> 00:25:22.908 - Does everyone still feel OK about voting to approve the facade work for this one? It has been through 00:25:22.908 --> 00:25:32.114 - HPC, so. Personally, I feel fine voting on it. OK. All right. Any final questions or thoughts? All right. 00:25:32.114 --> 00:25:41.233 - Do we want to then have a motion with the? A motion. OK. Do we have a second? Second. OK. And roll call. 00:25:41.233 --> 00:25:43.838 - Approval? Michael Hover, yes. 00:25:44.290 --> 00:25:52.724 - Rosell Barber, yes. Jane Cooper-Smith, yes. Heather Robinson, yes. Virginia Gethier, yes. Kevin McCall, 00:25:52.724 --> 00:26:01.076 - yes. Brad Whistler, yes. Lisa Spinelli, yes. All right. Andy, you could even just email us on that one 00:26:01.076 --> 00:26:09.347 - if you get some clarification. For sure. Sorry. I do have it. It's in Beacon as 120. So the west side 00:26:09.347 --> 00:26:12.510 - of the facade is in Beacon as 127. OK. 00:26:12.642 --> 00:26:21.921 - So I think you're good. I think it's the full building. I think it's the two of us. Great. The two separate, 00:26:21.921 --> 00:26:30.689 - sorry. All right. Cherry Canary in the. I did see some more. It's like 139 feet back, I think. So that 00:26:30.689 --> 00:26:39.628 - makes sense too. Yeah. All right. So next. OK. Next is World Food Market. This is an accessibility grant 00:26:39.628 --> 00:26:40.990 - for, let's see. 00:26:41.954 --> 00:26:51.999 - They will be adding an accessible bathroom. And then I believe that Eric is present here. Let me see 00:26:51.999 --> 00:27:02.542 - if we can find, there's everybody. It's pretty straightforward construction of a new accessible restroom. 00:27:02.542 --> 00:27:11.294 - The whole project costs about $15,000. They are asking for, they're requesting $10,000. 00:27:11.394 --> 00:27:21.353 - which is actually 25% the matching for an accessibility grant. They have not asked, they have not had 00:27:21.353 --> 00:27:31.116 - a major capital improvement grant, but they have received a minor improvement grant for $1,000. And 00:27:31.116 --> 00:27:39.806 - it is escaping me right now what that was for. But we do have Eric online. Hi. Hi, Eric. 00:27:40.354 --> 00:27:48.662 - I'm going to turn it over to the board to ask you questions. Sure. Any questions from the board? The 00:27:48.662 --> 00:27:56.971 - only thing that I noted, sorry, I have two small things. Actually, just one. I didn't see that there 00:27:56.971 --> 00:28:05.197 - was a quote for the work being done, and I saw it was a nice round number of $15,000. Is there like 00:28:05.197 --> 00:28:09.886 - an invoice or a breakdown of those costs? It does exist. 00:28:14.594 --> 00:28:22.933 - We do have an estimate. So this is part of a broader project that is a coffee shop that we're adding 00:28:22.933 --> 00:28:31.850 - to the building in an existing space. And we've gotten past the licensing and whatnot with local government 00:28:31.850 --> 00:28:40.519 - and are now in the construction phase. We're entering into that. So we do have actual quotes and whatnot 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:43.326 - paperwork available. So the total 00:28:43.938 --> 00:28:53.060 - I think it's probably included in the total contractors quote. It looks like it was pulled 00:28:53.060 --> 00:29:03.887 - from a spreadsheet. It probably has other things around it. Yeah. I mean, I think I did have some paperwork 00:29:03.887 --> 00:29:13.310 - that was quoted. Yeah. But we haven't had people come in since. The sample budget PDF, maybe? 00:29:13.730 --> 00:29:21.471 - There's the ADA quote PDF, but it's not hot for us. I don't know. It's like page 35 of the PDF. There's 00:29:21.471 --> 00:29:28.989 - an ADA quote PDF. I still don't know. Well, my mistake, I think, is not providing enough information 00:29:28.989 --> 00:29:36.582 - for you. There's a statement on the PDF. Yeah, we might be able to. Yeah, I don't know why that's not 00:29:36.582 --> 00:29:42.462 - included. So right there, Dee, that ADA quote, can you, is that, it's not hot. 00:29:43.106 --> 00:29:53.525 - If you will give me just a second, I will find that over here and then pull it up for everyone. I just 00:29:53.525 --> 00:30:03.640 - want to see which file it is before I start going through everything right now. While Dee's looking 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:12.542 - for that, were there any other questions? That was my one question on this one too was, 00:30:15.746 --> 00:30:28.661 - I know we had a really long conversation about it and it's been a minute but we we waived all matching 00:30:28.661 --> 00:30:38.942 - requirements so the fact that they're putting in part of it is great but it's not 00:30:40.162 --> 00:30:48.380 - necessary or is still necessary on these? We haven't officially done that for this. Every time we have 00:30:48.380 --> 00:30:56.597 - waived a match, it's because a board member has suggested or motion to waive a match. And then I guess 00:30:56.597 --> 00:31:05.214 - for Alex or whoever knows the policy, what is the current match requirement? 25%. Oh, OK. So they're there. 00:31:16.770 --> 00:31:23.866 - like the breakdown of the total cost of the bathroom, or are we looking for this broader project in 00:31:23.866 --> 00:31:31.034 - the bathroom? Just the bathroom. Just the bathroom. I think that when this was submitted, the layout 00:31:31.034 --> 00:31:38.272 - was put in for the ADA quote and not the actual form or the actual listing. So I am sorry about that, 00:31:38.272 --> 00:31:46.078 - guys. I really thought that I had that in there. That's OK. Just to be clear, Eric, this is Jane Coopersmith. 00:31:46.178 --> 00:31:52.514 - quote from your contractor. So since we're dealing with public funds, we have to make sure that not 00:31:52.514 --> 00:31:58.914 - that you guys would, but that it's not a made up number. We have that. We have that. I'm on the line 00:31:58.914 --> 00:32:05.313 - with one of my stakeholders. She is turning up that information. Great. I don't think she expected I 00:32:05.313 --> 00:32:11.713 - wouldn't have it, unfortunately. My only thought and concern is that this is more of like a building 00:32:11.713 --> 00:32:15.134 - improvement grant and less of an accessibility grant. 00:32:15.522 --> 00:32:22.205 - the facilities and the ADA would be like the handrail you know we're talking about the whole project 00:32:22.205 --> 00:32:28.889 - which is a bathroom where that accessibility is only parts of the bathroom is my only concern. Right 00:32:28.889 --> 00:32:35.572 - yeah I've got wider doorways stuff like that. Okay so I'm just kind of curious what that looks like. 00:32:35.572 --> 00:32:42.322 - Yeah I mean I feel like this could go could qualify for either one really and maybe we should look at 00:32:42.322 --> 00:32:44.638 - it from whichever one we have more 00:32:44.834 --> 00:32:51.200 - Funds available. Which one has more available funding? I was about to say, that's why I brought this 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:57.754 - up, because it would let us over budget in this particular. In ADA? In ADA, it is actually over budget. 00:32:57.754 --> 00:33:04.246 - I saw that. So it might apply for a building improvement. Be more appropriate for building improvement 00:33:04.246 --> 00:33:10.927 - and work better for the budget. Right. OK. Where might I drop this file? If you want to email it directly 00:33:10.927 --> 00:33:11.998 - to me right now, 00:33:12.258 --> 00:33:24.729 - That would be great. Or if you can link it in the chat, we could also do that as well. So I think we're 00:33:24.729 --> 00:33:36.960 - just waiting on the quote for this. So just in the interest of time, yeah, you can link that into the 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.838 - chat or get that to us. 00:33:40.354 --> 00:33:49.934 - Move on to the next one, and once you get that up, we'll come back to you. OK? Thank you for your patience. 00:33:49.934 --> 00:33:59.249 - All right. Just quickly to answer the question about the categories, if I did some math on what's before 00:33:59.249 --> 00:34:04.926 - us today, and if we do approve everything that's on the docket, 00:34:05.122 --> 00:34:15.281 - our business building improvement balance will be down to $577. So switching the request from accessibility 00:34:15.281 --> 00:34:24.969 - to business building improvement wouldn't really make a difference in that. I think the bigger picture 00:34:24.969 --> 00:34:34.846 - is that we have four zone grants in general. We have like kind of a total pot of money. And again, if we 00:34:35.138 --> 00:34:42.164 - approve everything that's before us today, we will not exceed that total amount for that particular 00:34:42.164 --> 00:34:49.190 - cat, those categories, like in total, like right there, the zone improvement grants D. Yeah, sorry, 00:34:49.190 --> 00:34:56.356 - I can't make it any larger. Um, so overall for the zone improvement grants, um, if we were to approve 00:34:56.356 --> 00:35:02.398 - everything today, we would still have, uh, about 45,000 left in that budget category. 00:35:03.010 --> 00:35:11.628 - And I will mention, though, 20 of that, I think, is for seal. And you expect that to come through. 00:35:11.628 --> 00:35:20.768 - So really, it's probably more like 20. So we would go essentially in the red for potentially a category. 00:35:20.768 --> 00:35:30.256 - But for the overall grants under zone improvement, we would not exceed the budget. So just for the awareness 00:35:30.256 --> 00:35:32.606 - of the board to know that. 00:35:33.314 --> 00:35:43.400 - So it may just be a category, one specific line. OK. All right. So while Eric's working on that, 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:54.007 - what's next, Dean? Next we have Davis Music Academy. This property is owned by Craig and Emily Davis. 00:35:54.007 --> 00:35:59.518 - And this is a business building improvement project. 00:36:00.034 --> 00:36:09.978 - This is on 336 South Walnut near Chocolate Moose, that sort of area, if you're not familiar. So they 00:36:09.978 --> 00:36:17.854 - are looking to do a roof replacement to address active leaks. They will also be 00:36:18.274 --> 00:36:28.048 - adding exterior security cameras and flood lighting. This is not part of the project that they're asking 00:36:28.048 --> 00:36:37.822 - for funds for, but this is the reason that they need to do the roof replacement so that they can install 00:36:37.822 --> 00:36:42.942 - this material. The total funding request is $9,227.23. 00:36:43.490 --> 00:36:52.346 - When you look at the separate quote of the $7,500, they definitely hit a matching. And they are seeking 00:36:52.346 --> 00:37:01.116 - another grant from the city for $3,000. They just gave us that information to be transparent. However, 00:37:01.116 --> 00:37:05.374 - they have not received any grant funding from us. 00:37:24.066 --> 00:37:36.472 - So it's the one above it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So as far as the photos go, yes, this is. So this area where 00:37:36.472 --> 00:37:48.638 - they will be likely putting a flood light there, there's a lot of water damage going on right there. 00:37:51.010 --> 00:38:04.118 - But it looks like this is the area in which they will be putting in most of the security. This is some 00:38:04.118 --> 00:38:13.918 - of the leakage that's happening because of the repairs that need to be done. 00:38:22.178 --> 00:38:32.621 - what page the application starts in the packet. It's 42 on the PDF. OK, got it. Thanks. I thought the 00:38:32.621 --> 00:38:42.860 - RBC quote was for the 1122 Madison. Oh, we're on the one before that. Yeah, I think we're on Davis, 00:38:42.860 --> 00:38:50.846 - which is security. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. Wait. There we go. Yeah, right there. 00:38:55.810 --> 00:39:04.362 - I had a question on this one, because you spoke briefly that they meet the matching, but the quote says 00:39:04.362 --> 00:39:12.997 - $9,227. For the total project of the security and the roof replacement, because one can't happen without 00:39:12.997 --> 00:39:21.385 - the other? I see. So exterior security and lighting is $7,500, and roof is $9,200. Right. And they're 00:39:21.385 --> 00:39:24.510 - requesting $9,200-ish. Is that right? 00:39:24.610 --> 00:39:42.452 - Yes, for the total, because they're taking consideration the total project. So the total project to 00:39:42.452 --> 00:39:50.302 - do all of this would be around like 17,000. 00:40:11.074 --> 00:40:21.005 - So this is not a safety and security, this is a building improvement because they're asking for assistance 00:40:21.005 --> 00:40:31.028 - with the roof. So the security can't happen without the roof, but the roof can happen without the security. 00:40:31.028 --> 00:40:32.606 - So it's a little 00:40:33.698 --> 00:40:41.494 - You know, I mean, yeah, right. And I understand what they're saying is that these all are being improved. 00:40:41.494 --> 00:40:48.996 - They're not asking us for money for safety and security, but that's part of the general improvements. 00:40:48.996 --> 00:40:56.498 - Right? Do you know what their follow up ask is for? Assuming it's not for safety and security for the 00:40:56.498 --> 00:41:02.014 - other grant 3000. And do you know what that's for? I will have to go look. 00:41:02.242 --> 00:41:13.398 - that up that's for us too or where no that's a city grant yes but I just okay so the reason I asked 00:41:13.398 --> 00:41:24.777 - that is because I got $17,000 grant on this they're declaring a $7,500 match so then if they apply on 00:41:24.777 --> 00:41:27.454 - the city side for right 00:41:28.002 --> 00:41:37.564 - for something, is there an issue there? I guess that's maybe a legal question. Meaning, would they be 00:41:37.564 --> 00:41:47.125 - applying for reimbursement for part of the grant that's being used as a UVA match? It doesn't matter. 00:41:47.125 --> 00:41:54.718 - So this is 336 South Walnut. Is that the only use of the building? I believe so. 00:41:56.258 --> 00:42:01.907 - I'm glad for all the work that they're, like I often look at this building and I'm like, man, they're 00:42:01.907 --> 00:42:07.667 - going like they're still going. And I think you can imagine that these dollars would make a huge impact 00:42:07.667 --> 00:42:13.261 - for a music academy and that it's a neighborhood that with the construction and then just being kind 00:42:13.261 --> 00:42:18.910 - of a thoroughfare for different types of activity. I'm sure this is really critical. I just wanted to 00:42:18.910 --> 00:42:20.350 - make sure that lines were 00:42:22.562 --> 00:42:30.691 - Yeah, great. I mean, you'll review the $3,000 grant, so you'll understand if there's, OK. Yeah. 00:42:30.691 --> 00:42:39.921 - All right. Yeah, I still haven't reviewed the city grant that they've submitted yet. So that will definitely 00:42:39.921 --> 00:42:45.086 - come into play, depending upon what the board decides today. 00:42:45.762 --> 00:42:53.079 - Do they own the building? They do own the building. It's weird, because in the other applications, it 00:42:53.079 --> 00:43:00.253 - was image, application, but then this one goes to applications. That's not in there. Yes, it is. We 00:43:00.253 --> 00:43:07.929 - saw it up here. Oh, really? Yeah. But then she was on the wrong one. I think it's up. I think the pictures 00:43:07.929 --> 00:43:15.390 - are that 1122. Yeah. Oh, OK. So we're looking at that. All right. So for this particular one, the three 00:43:15.554 --> 00:43:22.720 - classes, 336 South Walnut Street. Do we have clarity? Is everyone good? Happy to give more information 00:43:22.720 --> 00:43:30.025 - if you'd like. It's not a problem. I think only just to caveat is that that $3,000 doesn't apply towards 00:43:30.025 --> 00:43:37.121 - this project. Right, that it's kind of like double dipping. What they said they were telling us. They 00:43:37.121 --> 00:43:43.870 - were giving a 50% match on. We're already going over that 50%. Yeah. I think what the city said. 00:43:45.826 --> 00:43:53.707 - city funds are not considered eligible as part of the match. Well, I think, and I don't know if Alex 00:43:53.707 --> 00:44:01.666 - is on the call. It frankly, it's a gray area. So I think it's just a something that the best practice 00:44:01.666 --> 00:44:09.860 - to not do, to not do that. Yeah. And, um, there's the, the funds are separate. They have separate. Yeah. 00:44:09.860 --> 00:44:15.166 - Yeah. I'm here. Um, there is a question. Yeah. So the question was, 00:44:15.266 --> 00:44:26.482 - So this $17,000 project, $7,500 is a match. The property owner is requesting a separate grant from the 00:44:26.482 --> 00:44:37.806 - city in the amount of $3,000 for a project that's not identified yet. And the board had some discomfort 00:44:37.806 --> 00:44:41.726 - with perhaps a separate application 00:44:41.986 --> 00:44:49.247 - being a separate grant from the city being used to cover the match for this project. We don't have any 00:44:49.247 --> 00:44:56.648 - indication that that's the case, but it just raised a question for the board. And so the board wondered, 00:44:56.648 --> 00:45:03.768 - what are the rules relating to the way funding is applied between city funds and BUEA funds? Can the 00:45:03.768 --> 00:45:08.702 - board make a motion that says, yes, we'll approve this as long as the 00:45:09.154 --> 00:45:17.403 - city funds don't cover the matching part of this grant? Or is that not allowed because the BVA can't 00:45:17.403 --> 00:45:25.897 - place restrictions on how the city applies its funding? I don't know the answer off the top of my head. 00:45:25.897 --> 00:45:34.146 - So I see the application, there's a $3,000 project call. They're seeking additional grants. So we do 00:45:34.146 --> 00:45:37.086 - know that that's a city grant? Yes. 00:45:38.594 --> 00:45:49.200 - And did you say it's a different project? It is the security portion of this project. Oh, it is? Yes. 00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:59.599 - Oh, so it is to cover the $7,500. So a different way the board could consider this, sorry for, what 00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:03.550 - was the $9,000 component? 92, $9,223. 00:46:03.810 --> 00:46:11.938 - 25%. So then we're covered. Because even if $3,000 goes, they're still paying $4,500 out of, which is, 00:46:11.938 --> 00:46:19.907 - if you put $4,500 with the 92, it's there. I mean, they're putting in 30-some percent. They're still 00:46:19.907 --> 00:46:28.114 - over 25%. This is a business improvement grant that should be 50%. Well, but if I understand correctly, 00:46:28.114 --> 00:46:29.534 - it doesn't really 00:46:30.018 --> 00:46:36.909 - Didn't they just give us the information about the security just to let us know, just as a knowledge 00:46:36.909 --> 00:46:43.733 - piece? Because they're just really wanting money for the roof. So I'm guessing. And they would only 00:46:43.733 --> 00:46:50.897 - be eligible for $4,500. Yes. OK, so they have to combine it. I would suggest waiving the match if that's 00:46:50.897 --> 00:46:57.925 - an issue. I mean, there's not necessarily a reason that they have to do the match. We're waiving them. 00:46:57.925 --> 00:46:59.358 - We have that option. 00:46:59.970 --> 00:47:08.568 - Do you want to motion? Yeah, I would motion to waive the match so that there's not an issue with, well, 00:47:08.568 --> 00:47:17.000 - I would motion it however you want me to phrase it. Do you need a second before we talk about it? No. 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:25.432 - OK. I want to make sure that we actually need that waiver, because it makes me pretty nervous from an 00:47:25.432 --> 00:47:29.566 - administrative perspective if we make exceptions. 00:47:30.050 --> 00:47:40.344 - in one area, but not to others. Like, we didn't waive the match for World Foods Market. So to Brad's 00:47:40.344 --> 00:47:50.537 - point, the project match required, oh, it's at 50%. So the required project match, oh my god, Jane. 00:47:50.537 --> 00:47:56.958 - Sorry, I'm almost there. And then we could approve up to 9,000 00:47:57.314 --> 00:48:06.402 - even, because they would be matching 50% of the 9,000 with their 4,500. Yeah, or for the total project, 00:48:06.402 --> 00:48:15.314 - you could approve 8,361.5, I think. So Brad, I think that math is, well, if we're only looking at the 00:48:15.314 --> 00:48:24.314 - roof, it's 9,200. So if it was the roof project, they would need to provide 4,500 of that. If it's the 00:48:24.314 --> 00:48:27.198 - entire project, that's basically 00:48:27.682 --> 00:48:34.594 - $17,000, their half would be $9,000. So I think the haves are getting kind of eluded. So is it 50% of 00:48:34.594 --> 00:48:41.507 - the total project cost or 50% of the grant amount that they have to match? That's the debate, because 00:48:41.507 --> 00:48:48.419 - it's two separate projects that have to happen in tandem to work. But they're two separate quotes. So 00:48:48.419 --> 00:48:55.196 - they're combining it for the portion of reimbursement. But you know what I mean? Normally, it would 00:48:55.196 --> 00:48:56.958 - be two separate projects. 00:48:57.122 --> 00:49:03.749 - I think they should revise. I do too. I think it would be too murky. Because again, I'm still stuck 00:49:03.749 --> 00:49:10.509 - on the fact that they don't want money from us for security. But they added that to tell us the total 00:49:10.509 --> 00:49:17.202 - cost. So I think they should revise. And the great question is, can you mash up to 50% of your total 00:49:17.202 --> 00:49:23.830 - funding request? And their funding request is $9,200, right? The funding request is $9,200. So they 00:49:23.830 --> 00:49:26.878 - would only have to match half of that, right? 00:49:27.106 --> 00:49:34.302 - I know we have a motion on the table for a match waiver, but I'm with Dr. G. I think either a revise 00:49:34.302 --> 00:49:41.569 - and resubmit, or if staff, if we could do legal review with Alex and see if we even need to go there, 00:49:41.569 --> 00:49:48.836 - but if we can get some additional information and either clarify, and then if that doesn't work, then 00:49:48.836 --> 00:49:56.032 - revise and resubmit and bring back to the board. So I don't know. If there's no second, I guess that 00:49:56.032 --> 00:49:56.958 - motion dies. 00:49:57.442 --> 00:50:04.430 - Yeah, and then so, but that's. Yeah, we did have a motion. Is there a second? OK, so that dies, so I 00:50:04.430 --> 00:50:11.348 - want to get clarification because it feels like we're trying to piece together a puzzle and I think 00:50:11.348 --> 00:50:18.266 - it would just be simpler if they just come back. I agree. I think that early comment about like you 00:50:18.266 --> 00:50:25.185 - can't do the security without the roof, but you can do the room without the security. And so I feel 00:50:25.185 --> 00:50:26.430 - like we're there. 00:50:26.562 --> 00:50:34.662 - Yeah, we're kind of... Is it one project or two? Right, so I think just some clarity. Thank you, Dee. 00:50:34.662 --> 00:50:42.603 - Thanks everyone for that. I know we're time is tight. Eric, were you able to... I do have it. Okay, 00:50:42.603 --> 00:50:46.494 - let's go back to that so we can finish that out. 00:50:57.730 --> 00:51:05.799 - This is from Man Plumbing. They gave them a round number. Round number. Yes. 15,000. 15,000. But it 00:51:05.799 --> 00:51:14.271 - is in detail as to what will be happening. Well, that feels like a contractor quote, if I may add. Yeah. 00:51:14.271 --> 00:51:22.340 - OK. All right. So it is in detail. All right. Thank you, Eric, for that clarity. Was there anything 00:51:22.340 --> 00:51:27.262 - else on this one? So going back, this is World Foods Market. 00:51:27.618 --> 00:51:35.674 - The ADA restroom. The only portion was that the board preferred to see it as a building improvement 00:51:35.674 --> 00:51:43.892 - and not an ADA. Which, again, changes the match requirement. Which does change the match requirement. 00:51:43.892 --> 00:51:52.028 - If you go to the quote, it'll tell you what the ADA was, which was the toilet and sink. I also saw a 00:51:52.028 --> 00:51:56.862 - handrail in the packet. But if it's a building improvement, 00:51:57.154 --> 00:52:03.671 - The only thing I guess that matters to me is that if they come back later down the road and wanting 00:52:03.671 --> 00:52:10.254 - another building improvement grant or asking for another ADA, just putting it in the right bucket so 00:52:10.254 --> 00:52:17.162 - that we're not doing the double. So ADA grants say applicants are limited to a one time only grant award. 00:52:17.162 --> 00:52:23.940 - Because I was just looking up the accessibility modification grant is what it's called because you were 00:52:23.940 --> 00:52:25.374 - kind of asking about. 00:52:25.570 --> 00:52:32.894 - Is this for brand new? I mean, the way it is phrased on our website, it's very much modification for 00:52:32.894 --> 00:52:40.219 - things that are grandfathered. So I do wonder if this is better placed in the building because it is 00:52:40.219 --> 00:52:47.543 - brand new. I mean, I think we could always change the ADA grant, but it looks like, according to our 00:52:47.543 --> 00:52:54.142 - website, the purpose is bringing things up to ADA. Yeah. That would be my only caveat. OK. 00:52:55.330 --> 00:53:01.772 - can move back to the business building improvement section. And if I would just ask that be part of 00:53:01.772 --> 00:53:08.214 - the point. Eric mentioned that this is part of a much larger improvement project, that the bathroom 00:53:08.214 --> 00:53:14.978 - was just a piece of it. And I'm asking for their match requirement. If this is like $15,000 of a $30,000 00:53:14.978 --> 00:53:19.230 - project, I hate to move them to business to building improvement. 00:53:19.970 --> 00:53:27.448 - if they have a much larger project and would be eligible then for more. Well, flip that. Flip that just 00:53:27.448 --> 00:53:34.854 - a little bit. It's more like, keep it business building improvement, but get additional documentation. 00:53:34.854 --> 00:53:42.188 - Yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think, yeah, I'm with you. So Eric, do you have a ballpark for the 00:53:42.188 --> 00:53:46.430 - full cafe project? I don't have. I mean, like I said, it's 00:53:47.298 --> 00:53:57.218 - closer to $60,000 or more than that, I think. Actually, it's $100,000. I just got word. So if we were 00:53:57.218 --> 00:54:06.943 - to vote on this as is, we could only approve half of the project costs, so $7,500. So I'm afraid if 00:54:06.943 --> 00:54:16.766 - you don't revise and resubmit, you're leaving some money on the table, personally. Yeah. So I think. 00:54:17.154 --> 00:54:26.607 - You might, I don't know. Heather, how do you? OK, wait a minute. I can't, as a board member, coach him. 00:54:26.607 --> 00:54:35.788 - Right. So the request was, all right, am I looking at the $10,000? $10,000. Does he have to resubmit 00:54:35.788 --> 00:54:45.150 - or go in motion to move it? Well, the max on what BBI would be $10,000. So can we approve the $10,000? 00:54:45.314 --> 00:54:56.415 - We don't have documentation of the full project, because this is only for the bathroom project. Is it 00:54:56.415 --> 00:55:07.842 - not 50% of the requested funding? 50%, but it's one to one. I get exactly what you've been saying, Brad, 00:55:07.842 --> 00:55:15.134 - and you're thinking 50% that they get double, but it's one to one. 00:55:15.682 --> 00:55:23.997 - That's not what it says. 50% of the requested funding, not 50% of the project cost. I mean, I'm- Typically, 00:55:23.997 --> 00:55:32.235 - the grant. Hold on, Brad. The language- If the requested funding is $10,000, then we have to match $5,000. 00:55:32.235 --> 00:55:40.318 - Right, correct. You're absolutely right. And we have a $15,000 quote, so there's no reason- It's $7,500, 00:55:40.318 --> 00:55:42.782 - right? It's going to be $7,500. 00:55:43.138 --> 00:55:50.776 - I'm working on producing the more equipment. So typically, how this works is that someone gives us, 00:55:50.776 --> 00:55:58.643 - when they give us the entire budget, for instance, like we've just done with Merth, the entire project 00:55:58.643 --> 00:56:06.281 - costs over $100,000. And we're helping them with one area of that project. So they can leverage the 00:56:06.281 --> 00:56:12.926 - entire cost of the project against what they're asking for. I'm reading right here on. 00:56:13.378 --> 00:56:20.808 - on our website. And it says, for example, if you are requesting $5,000, you must show $2,500 of personal 00:56:20.808 --> 00:56:22.718 - financing for the project. 00:56:22.882 --> 00:56:27.881 - So therefore, if you're requesting $10,000, you must show $5,000 of personal funds. So we really just 00:56:27.881 --> 00:56:32.830 - need documentation of the entire project at this junction. I mean, but we already have documentation 00:56:32.830 --> 00:56:37.878 - of a $15,000 quote. So I don't see any reason why we couldn't just do it. We don't need anything other 00:56:37.878 --> 00:56:42.926 - than what we have, right? I see. Yes. Earlier, I was like, I don't think that's right. But it is right 00:56:42.926 --> 00:56:47.973 - because of the way our wording is. I'm sorry. I'm just getting my numbers reversed. You basically have 00:56:47.973 --> 00:56:52.286 - to show what you are funding a third of the project the way everything is written here. 00:56:53.090 --> 00:56:59.664 - Like it's not, it doesn't seem to be one to one. It's not right. So we could approve the 10,000 the 00:56:59.664 --> 00:57:06.435 - way it is right now. I agree. I completely agree that your verbiage was right. We were just kind of... 00:57:06.435 --> 00:57:13.075 - I was seeing where everybody was disagreeing. My bad. I wasn't trying to... I was getting my numbers 00:57:13.075 --> 00:57:19.518 - reversed. I apologize. The $15,000 quote that we're seeing is only for the plumbing, not even for 00:57:19.618 --> 00:57:25.643 - Right. Drywall and everything else in the bathroom. That's not even the total cost of the bathroom, 00:57:25.643 --> 00:57:31.729 - right? That's just the- So I'll just approve this as a building, business building grant for $10,000 00:57:31.729 --> 00:57:37.875 - as requested, just a different grant type. Wonderful. Do we have a second? Second. Awesome. Roll call 00:57:37.875 --> 00:57:44.443 - approval, please. Michael Hooper, yes. Felisa. Oh, go ahead, Felisa. Felisa Spinelli, yes. Kate Rosenbarger, 00:57:44.443 --> 00:57:49.022 - yes. Jane Cooper-Smith, yes. Heather Robinson, yes. Virginia Mactheer, yes. 00:57:49.218 --> 00:58:02.215 - Can we call yes? Brad Whistler, yes. All right. OK, Dee, we're at time. What did we not get to? 1122 00:58:02.215 --> 00:58:15.854 - North Madison, LLC, and True Ketamine, which is vanished aesthetics. Separate. Yes. Legal entity, though. 00:58:15.854 --> 00:58:18.814 - Separate legal entity. 00:58:19.362 --> 00:58:27.215 - We can table these for the next meeting. If the board wants to stay longer, we could potentially do 00:58:27.215 --> 00:58:35.617 - that. Up to you guys. I did put these in order of submission. So these two are the most recent submissions 00:58:35.617 --> 00:58:43.784 - that we have gotten. I can't stay longer. OK. It was just submitted September, start of September. Yes. 00:58:43.784 --> 00:58:48.574 - OK. I think we hold off. Do we have a motion to table these? 00:58:48.930 --> 00:58:56.221 - Do we continue these to the next meeting? Yes. I move that we continue the 1122 North Madison Street 00:58:56.221 --> 00:59:03.584 - and the True Bloom Ketamine applications to our next meeting. Second. I will call. Michael, yes. Hey, 00:59:03.584 --> 00:59:10.874 - Rosemary, yes. Jane Cougarsmith, yes. Heather Robinson, yes. Virginia Gutierrez, yes. Terri Collier, 00:59:10.874 --> 00:59:18.526 - yes. Brad Whistler, yes. Melissa Spinelli, yes. All right. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. Are we adjourned? 00:59:18.722 --> 00:59:20.062 - We're adjourned.