- All right, recording is going. All right. Hello, everybody. While we wait for Jason to settle in a little
- bit, we can go ahead and, I think, do a roll call for Thursday, January 22nd at 4 p.m. We're going to
- meet the advisory and public safety leadership. One, two, three, call.
- All right. So I'm going to please do a verbal roll call. Jason? Here. Sharon? Here. I saw your mouth
- here. I always have that. Thank you. Thank you.
- We are in here, so I believe that is everybody. Thanks for keeping me honest. Okay.
- Should have had the agenda and number in the minutes. So motion to approve that. I'll motion to approve
- it. Second it. All right, motion and second it. I'll let you call the roll on that. I'll pull up something
- if that's okay. All right, sure. I'll just go around. We'll start on Zoom, Cami.
- Hi. Robert. Hi. Jason. Hi. That motion passes. Great. So we'll move on to reports. So we'll start with
- even co-chairs.
- Well, both of us were at Isabella's meeting, right? I think that the work, just a comment, not really
- substantive, but to be thinking about how even when you're not representing the commission, you can
- still be doing that, the work in between, in other ways, which is really important. I know that with
- several iterations of
- The commission, there was a lot of tension about wanting to do projects in the commission or do projects
- on behalf of the commission, which was acting as individuals. But it's important to remember that us
- as individuals are passionate about things. There's all sorts of ways we can get engaged. So push that
- out there. And for me, as the other co-chair,
- You know, I know that my appointment is ending this month and I'm not renewing something to be relocating.
- And I just wanted to send on my thanks to everybody for the work and continuing it, whether in this
- condition or others. You know, I know that we're gonna be
- in the re-business we're going to be looking at election, electing new officers. You know, I think as
- a commentary, I think that we got into a habit with this particular condition and I had as much part
- of it as anywhere we were kind of more trying to get an email whether everyone was attending and trying
- to get the maximum amount. I think we got into a habit of that.
- But, you know, looking at other committees and commissions, I think the default assumption is that really
- that folks attend and that they email if that is going to change. So I'm hoping that as the commission
- moves on in the future, that we kind of reset, you guys kind of reset yourselves so that that is the
- assumption to maybe make sure that, you know,
- We assume attendance and goal, you know, for change. That is something that I'm just trying to get everybody
- together. I know for me, it was a lot. I'm sure it's a lot of headway for the staff too. So, but other
- than that, I really thank everybody and thank City Council folks for letting me tag along on this appointment.
- So I guess we'll move on to individual members. Does anybody else have anything to report? Or comments
- on it? Secondly, you said about maybe we look forward to the rest of our term to put those dates in
- so we all know we're going to be here and plan around it versus things catching us off guard.
- But so we can, I think we catch momentum and then we use it and I don't want us to
- All right then, moving on to staff. Wait. Oh, you had something to say, sorry. I wanted to thank both
- of you for your service.
- I don't know you as well as I know Jason, but I'm going to miss you, Jason. All right, we can roll down
- the hills together. But thank you both for your service and the work that you've done for the city.
- I really appreciate it. And it's going to be missed. So thank you.
- We don't have any particular reports. And obviously, if there's any questions for us, we're happy to
- answer them now or at any time during the meeting.
- If I may, how are you feeling about for staff staffing amounts for February and the next meeting? How
- are you feeling about that? Pretty good. So just a little bit about our staffing issues.
- We went from three full time to two full time folks at the about the middle of December. During that
- period of time, we also
- for the students who come in as fellows and interns while they're taking files and having a winter break,
- we don't have them either. So we did have a period of time that we were short staffed and also we have
- been spending a good amount of time working towards compliance with new federal accessibility requirements.
- Some of you may be familiar with those. They're, I think, going to be effective
- later on in April and impact, you know, for governmental institutions. So city of Bloomington,
- for the county, for IU, everything that they do in terms of distribution of materials through a website
- and making sure that they're accessible for all people. So very important work, but certainly a big
- undertaking.
- We're making good progress on that and I'm sure that we'll continue to make progress and learn as we
- go but we're hoping that the heavy lifting for that is done relatively soon and our expectation is that
- we will return to you know fairly being able to do normal support for all of the
- Uh, for this commission and, um, for all of the council committees as well. Yeah. Good question. So,
- um, this is Aria Deb. She is taking Christine's, um, uh, place on a, on a part-time basis. Um, I'm party
- Bennett. Um, I am, um, the,
- Deputy Attorney and Deputy Administrator. The first meeting that I attended was the last meeting, but
- I think that you were there earlier after that one. And Christine has left us. So that was when I said
- we went down to two people. That was when she left. But Aria started this week. We've got a couple of
- fellows from the OMEAL program that are back and working with us now too.
- We're feeling good about that, but a lot of that really just came together just this week. Yeah. So
- I think after that we'll move on to public or public comments. I think that there's a check update.
- I don't know if that was an old one or. I think that's an old one that let me double check over here.
- Yeah. Got it. All right. So yeah, we have somebody in the audience here. I don't know if they want to
- come up. No? No. Thank you. And then anybody that is a guest on Zoom, if they have any. I got something.
- Yeah. So that is Isabel.
- Um, she is saying that she has something for, um, for the old business, um, for a, the report on, um,
- the response from the mayor's office. Um, and she wanted to know if she should wait until that time
- period to, um, bring that up, um, which we're going to go straight to that afterwards. So seems like
- it. So, um, yeah, as a matter of fact, I mean, we may as well let,
- I'll speak on that first. I'm assuming everybody has read at the bottom the actual thread. There she
- is. Can you unmute yourself, Isabel? Yes, I can. Hi, everybody. So I did hear back from the mayor's
- office that they
- did before the end of 2025, they did enter into a contract with LEAP, which is the Law Enforcement Action
- Partnership, to do, yes, Cami knows how long we were working on that, finally, for them to do a study
- of our 911 calls and make recommendations on how best to use our current resources, including Stride
- Mobile and others,
- to address 911 calls that currently are just all go to the police. So that is a great update that they're
- going to be conducting that study. It'll take six to nine months. So by September, we should have something.
- And I actually am happy to share maybe I can
- share it with you via email or the staff can. The scope of work that LEAP has, you know, that the agreement
- has decided upon. Isabel, we're happy if you want to send it my way. Well, we're happy to distribute
- it to committee members or commission members if that's easiest. Yeah, that'd be great. Thank you. Sorry,
- I didn't think of it earlier to put in the packet.
- No, that is good news, because I felt like the last message that I got was still very vague. So to have
- those details is much more refreshing than what I had to report. So to report Trump's mother. I have
- a question for Isabel.
- So Isabelle, when LEAP does this, will they include, like, the, well, we said 911 call, so that's the
- lead, and then stride, and then is there anybody else that sort of incorporate it all so we can have,
- like, a consolidated picture?
- I think that's the idea. So they would also talk to, like the fire department has their, what are they
- called, mental health, community health people that, mobile integrated health is what it's called, that
- visit people. So they would also be, you know, talk to, Leap would talk to them and would talk to other
- stakeholders. I don't have the scope of work in front of me right now, but I think
- Yeah, they would have a comprehensive view of who might better handle some of the calls. I know originally
- that was part of the plan to talk to the fire department as well, the mobile intervention unit, whatever.
- I can't think of what it's called, but that was originally part of the plan. I'm so excited.
- I wish it hadn't taken so long, but I'm so excited that this is finally the end result. So I'm just
- happy. So thank you for that news. Well, thank you for your advocacy.
- Jason for some of the new stuff because I'm still, I'm a little unsure about the process for our shoe
- box. So things like that, so. Yeah. Yeah, so really we just need two people to mediate the meeting and
- to prepare the agenda with staff. So those, we've worked in a co-chair model
- We used to have a more constant rotating model so that everyone would get a chance to be a valetarian
- and somebody could take over. But it seems that we were asked to have more consistency and so we switched
- to year long terms. So we have two co-chairs so that the balance doesn't just fall on one of the other
- of you. And really, like I said, it's just mediating
- and working with staff to put stuff on the agenda. And with that, you can just ask the rest
- of the commission. So it's just taking on a temporary, greater role. And that's been Robert and I, in
- case it wasn't my chance. So would you say this is like a couple hours a month?
- Yeah. Right. Yeah, I'd say that. And also, like, as Robert was saying, I think if you could
- get an expectation going that people were expected to attend and would email otherwise, you wouldn't
- be chasing around people. But we've been sending we've been the one sending those emails and routing.
- Yeah, I'm good at that.
- But in other iterations, it was really just like, last agenda, do we have anything to add, do we have
- anything to take off? Yeah, let's put it out. So yeah, it was written like only a couple of hours. But
- then we were also doing lunch that night. So not the spoke shoes. And as we switch over to that, you
- guys had to land the moment where I was here.
- Is there an opportunity for you to write. Or we're like, okay, this is how it is. Here's the point of
- things that I understand. I feel like we still haven't been given a lot of the tools. I feel like they're
- still very new and also kind of confused often by all the door, open door policy, structured events.
- Yeah, I'd certainly be willing to be in informal contact. And there's nothing proprietary about it.
- It's not like I have to turn my files over and turn over my email and everything is taken away from
- me. I mean, I don't have a paper on there, but I, yeah, we did a little repair. I would propose that,
- you know, folks, like individual folks could email both of us and then we
- to that and obviously as long as a significant amount of people did not, as long as like two other commission
- members didn't get some sort of work done. Yeah. And some of that makes sense. Like I learned about
- and like the rest of the commission learned about with staff and city legal rights and like open door
- laws and stuff like that.
- And there's still the plan of the potential training. But also, you know, we want to tell that happens
- if people are okay. That that training is still intended to happen relatively soon. Through Jennifer,
- yeah, proselyte in the clerk's office. And, you know, we of course, it
- council staff will continue to provide support, including, you know, keeping on top of open door law.
- The law usually changes in some way or another almost every year that the General Assembly meets. And
- you may have noticed on the agenda that one thing that's relatively new is everybody
- has their name appearing on the agenda along with your terms as well. So that's something that became
- law last year. That's going to be our agenda? Yes. Yes. So we will continue to keep on top of that stuff
- and provide support too. So I think one thing that I was never clear
- So we hadn't, we had a rotated position. And I went with this. I was kind of volunteered. Yeah.
- So it was, you know, we as a body volunteer people and do, again, suggest folks in Accenture to be encouraged
- people to step up on their own.
- I mean, usually last time it was more helpful when we had a lot more season numbers. It was usually
- one season number with one newer number. I'll help.
- Yeah, and Cammie's been a co-chair before, so co-chairing is possible. Cammie was the first co-chair.
- Actually, the Cammie co-chairs, that's the official name of the position.
- Well, I know that obviously we would be elected to it, Senator, but we still have another position open.
- So if there were to be one of them, would you vote for each one of them? Well, we just throw these in.
- Does anybody else want to fight for it? I mean, truthfully, I don't even know if I'm going to be on
- the commission. After January 31, I haven't gotten
- word that I don't know if the council decided or yeah. I can probably provide a little bit of insight
- into that with the way that these appointments are up at the end of January. So for part of
- the commissioners, you know, they're up the end of this January.
- with the council electing new leadership at the beginning of the year and then starting to have their
- committees. They are working through applications and it may just take a little while longer to hear
- just with everybody getting things scheduled. So yeah, just expect that you will hear it just maybe
- a little bit delayed from what it has been in the past.
- I was just wondering on that note actually, would it be the same process like first time where it was
- like, not an interview, but you know, you came in, you spoke and then you came on commission or you're
- already part reapplying will just be smoother sale? That's a great question. And I honestly, I don't
- have enough experience yet to know that for sure. And so,
- So I apologize. We can find that out and let you know. In the past, we just reapplied. And if there
- wasn't anything wrong, they just kind of reviewed. And they're like, yeah, this member is good. They've
- been showing up. And then just notified us. So yeah, there wasn't another interview. I would expect
- that it would be the same way going forward then. Isabel has made a couple of statements in chat. So
- if he has said,
- Members can continue to serve for a period of time until the reappointment decisions. If you, if your
- term is expiring, you do need to reapply if you want to and I know that both of you have.
- then yeah, it sounds like you'll be able to serve, you know, even beyond your period of time until you
- hear back, which like I said, it's not going to take a super long time or anything like that. It's just
- beginning of the year is rough sometimes, right? So yeah, thank you as well. All right, so we have two folks
- except for just a voice vote. Yeah, yeah. So, Cami and Carol have volunteered to be the co-shares. So,
- we're going to vote to appoint them. So, we'll go around by a voice vote. We'll skip the chairs first.
- Do you want to say a vote together?
- I think you can do them as a slate of candidates. Unless anybody poses, we can vote for them together.
- Okay. I will skip the candidates and do them last. So they don't feel self-aggrandizing. It's Roger.
- Hi. Gretchen. Hi. Jason. Hi. Sharon. Hi. I love the iteration, candy and kale.
- Oh, Cammy. Cammy. Cammy. Yes, I think that was Yasmin. Hi. Yasmin. Unanimously approve. All right. You
- should know that as leaders, you have everybody behind you. Yeah, I appreciate it. Except for us, for
- new teams. It's not you, it's us. Yeah. I'm not gonna feel that either, so. I'm impressed. On the...
- I was going to talk about, not that I was looking at everyone's terms. Yeah. The question, yeah. Did
- you plan on reapplying or were you more thinking you were going to end? No, I reapplied. OK, cool. Yeah.
- Yeah. Yeah. Jennifer privately sent me her email. I checked it. Yeah. I wonder if Erin. I think it depends
- also on how many other people are applying. And because now we have a place for nine people.
- Agenda has died with the baking style. So is good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This makes things a little
- with quorum, whether or not Andy would not marry. Who's going to marry quorum? I wish there was more
- vision into that. Yeah, because quorum is patched. It's not a set number. So depending on the number
- of total members that you have, quorum's going to change. It'll at least drop by one. Two members are going on.
- that change in here? I think I think remember, at least at one time, it was half of the number of people
- in the condition. Yeah. I mean, no, it was the number of slots we have. It's a little it is it is a
- little bit unclear in the Bloomington municipal code.
- And I think the overall preference is to make sure that we have a full slate of appointments for all
- boards and commissions. And I'm going to take an action item to follow up with Jennifer and talk a little
- bit about schedule and timing for the interview committee and the review process.
- You know, maybe one of the big things that would be helpful for for members of the commission is,
- you know, first of all, you know, you know, for people whose terms are up.
- You know, we know a couple of you have already reapplied, which is great. But if, just as a suggestion,
- if somebody could maybe do some, offer to do some outreach with Erin to find out if she intends to reapply.
- And then also think about any other, you know, outreach you can do in the community. The city, of course,
- you know, routinely
- issues, press releases to let people know that there are appointments available. And through the website
- will clearly indicate that there are positions available. But the best advocates are the people who
- are serving on the commission now and doing the work of the commission now. So I think that's worth
- talking about what different avenues you might want to use to do a little bit of supplemental outreach.
- Um, because it is true. And, you know, at the very least we've got positions, um, to fill, um, getting,
- getting those, so this will be as possible. It would be beneficial. Without reaches there, right? Um,
- not, is there like a certain place or time here that are more targeted in terms of people who need to
- be, that we want to have on, on campus? Just anyone who wants to get involved.
- that's been an ongoing conversation because CAPS is supposed to represent underrepresented people. And
- so we've talked about how to get a diversity of people without, you know, just saying, we don't have
- any black people, right? So like, it's harder, but trying to recruit somebody that's not like us, or
- we talked about getting somebody who's data oriented because we're all not
- don't seem to be number crunchers. That would be nice. Yeah. But I mean, and you know, I know I've said
- this a number of times, all the more reason for us to get back to assuming, yeah, attendance. Yeah.
- Yeah. And once, unless otherwise, one could count on the people who are here asking to join or like,
- we can forward and show it. Yeah. Because we're ready to do some things.
- So the people we do know, I think they're going to do the best they can to suggest. Yeah, because I
- mean, I am the only person in the classroom still in school that has an undergraduate degree. So the
- people I know on the majority of the graduate school, so would that be something that would be OK to
- talk about it with them and ask them if they're going to be involved in that situation or if somebody
- wanted to be their way because of that?
- Yeah, I'm biased, but of course, but I would say that's a bonus because then there's, we've been continuing
- to talk about bridges so that the city's not operating separate. The university was just kind of a big
- player. But yeah, also to have different perspectives in school and not just like grad students. That'd
- be good. I agree with that too.
- Yeah, that's why I was a little, you know, it's a little bit of an elephant in this universe, you know,
- it's part of the role that I do. Yeah. Well, I'll apologize, Mary, for me, it's a little bit humorous,
- but I'm on the day job. What were the details for the commission appointments in 2016?
- And it covered that. I think absolutely on the commission appointments and adding 2026 business was
- really just thinking about the fact that it's January, it's a new year. I think this works hand in hand
- with the commission appointments, thinking through, you know, what are the area potential areas of
- focus, you know, either things that, you know, are carrying forward from 2025 or have been, you know,
- sort of on the list that it
- makes sense to turn to, obviously there was the discussion earlier about the study that's going to be
- done on the 911 falls. And there will be a period of time that that study is just happening,
- but you know, when the report comes out, you know, anticipating what the commission might have to do
- with that, you know, anything there I think is also helpful in, you know, in when you're, you know,
- potentially do an outreach to people who might want to join the commission to tell them, hey, these
- are the kinds of things that we work on and what we plan on focusing on for the next year. Yeah.
- I don't know. I mean, I think I've said in previous meetings and we've been trying to get there and
- obviously the goal of the continuing is to refer back to the
- 2023 reports, what was the specific name for that? When you reported to the city with the cask. I can
- see the picture. Yeah. Yeah, our, our 2023 report that we, that our body made to cancel. The alternative
- public safety report. Yes. I mean, it seemed like, uh,
- It was a good idea to try and view to that and look at some of the, you know, bullet points that were
- made. And obviously we've had a lot of churn of members. So that could be a good guidepost for future
- kind of bullet points to like look into. And I think staying in the lift is both.
- And so we talk a lot about the alternative to 911 dispatching. So anything we can do while we wait for
- six months or any like outfits around that, that can help support when it does come out, we're ready
- for like cold drive, whatever that means. Yeah.
- At one time, we talked about having a social worker, or maybe just one, who works with the police department
- come and speak to us, and maybe getting some of that data from the police department about,
- I don't know, about 911 calls or. I think that'll all come with the lease. Supposedly,
- There are some budget requests that evaluate and optimize the patch operations, implement police protocols
- and dispatch. I guess that a lot of that will be covered in this report. There's going to come out of
- this that Isabelle is involved, but I would like to have someone come speak to us.
- Isabel said that she made an error and the leap study won't start until April and that it will take
- seven months from then. I was wondering,
- if maybe we could do something to get our community more involved with the coming program that we might
- have. You know what I mean? To like let them know that this might be possible to find out their opinions,
- like to hype them up about the fact that we might have this opportunity available to them.
- I don't know. Has in the past the apps commission done kind of more of a public forum at like the library
- that people attend? Yeah. Down hall.
- We were on stage for that, that's why. Thank you for remembering our performance. And that was good.
- The way that was formed is it was around before the release of the alternative public safety report.
- And then we formed people into physical breakout rooms. And then I think the Zoom people had their own
- breakout room. Breakout Zoom.
- And they discuss common topics. And then we had reporters anonymize their responses and brought those
- all together. And so as people getting together, either in a physical space or in a Zoom space, which
- is still engaged and voicing their concerns and having those heard. And then the commission works with
- that. I think that was, I live now down the road from somebody who first
- heard about the cast mission through that, and she said that was, she felt really engaged. She's already
- a person who's well engaged with the community but yeah I think that's a way to show them into our work,
- but then also yes, the fact that they can influence government without having to commit to a commission there.
- Yeah, I think we're done with all the new business. Does anybody have any last minute things that they
- want to talk about? I think the one thing I think about kind of the structure of admission and seems
- like you guys have done large reports and broader things, but I kind of think about smaller actionable
- items to address.
- some public safety concerns or maybe have smaller things that we can chew off. I guess one of them that
- I would suggest for a future thing would be discussing our contractors. We contract with Fox surveillance
- as we learn more about AI surveillance and how it's being used to harm public. I've seen some cities
- create petitions with
- Um, themselves and then bring it to the city council or commissions, but I wondered about maybe the
- commission or like, what's the legality and that of us, like starting with something like the conversation
- around that and then potential like community engagement around addressing something like that. Like,
- is it appropriate for me to start a petition to like it? I would probably need to, uh,
- I think I'd need to understand a little bit more about what I'm not familiar enough with. Did you say
- it was Fox? Fox, it's this camera. Okay. I know we had a renewed contract with them and purchase in
- 2024. Yeah, I think maybe we're coming up on potential to
- not renewable, or ships. That, and I think that's something that's tied into public safety pretty severely.
- And so maybe something very small and actionable we could do in the first months. And then we find another
- smaller thing where we're like, okay, how do we feel about this? Or how does the community feel about
- this? What can we do? And things versus the big picture where I was, we are painting big pictures, but
- for all purpose. And hopefully these little things will give us
- things that we can actually get done. Yeah, it's in a lot of cities currently. It grew really fast and
- most police departments or cities have contracts with this company and they are, they actively use it
- for immigration to use AI to connect. It's all been fed into
- the weapon that is being created against the public. And so there's a lot of concern from a lot of cities
- and also a lot of community members about it, including myself. So I was like, oh, is this something
- that I can start the petition? Or should it be something that if we should ask the public about it and
- then figure out how the public feels about it and then start something like that? Or, yeah, because
- I want to start. So is there a person or department that administers that? The police department?
- Yeah. They drop the cameras off around different places. They're like those little rolly ones you'll
- see in the parking lots of Kroger. They're looking to your car, facial recognition, license plate, registers.
- They're looking to see what you're stealing. If you're stealing, they're like getting used to your purchases.
- And it's, you know, they are scary. But surveillance isn't even scary. Are they? I asked him about it
- today. So there is, I have sneaky.
- I have a little video that it's just 11 minutes. I'll be happy to just pass it direct to you and email.
- So it's kind of a nice encapsulation, at least at the very minimum from an IT perspective, but everyone's
- got some of the security and privacy issues that can be involved with the deployment of flaw cameras.
- It's definitely a concern.
- Um, so I can pass that over to you so you can be a little more. There's a lot of concern that was presented
- by the ACLU when we first, when FOC was first getting in contact with the city, that was presented by
- previous parties that now has, they have proven to do the things that they're concerned about, which
- is where they choose to place them to monitor.
- General business? It's a private property. It's not all of them. They're all connected. So you can have
- private ones, you can have public ones, but they're all connected because it's a network that you give
- to one company that then is feeding that to whoever wants to pay for it. No, I believe the cameras at
- Kroger, for example, are through Kroger, through another company. I don't think that there, but it's
- a similar name. Just for clarity. And then,
- something to put to the rest of the staff, another option would be, you know, we're talking about setting
- up, or at least we're talking about setting up a petition. You know, if this is not a good idea for,
- you know, the CAHPS commission to sponsor, can individuals act as individual citizens to set that up
- and not have it impact on them?
- So that might be, you don't have to answer that now. That might be something to get back with us about.
- I think that's great. And if I could suggest that maybe a good starting place for this is, you know,
- an education session of this commission so that everybody is sort of on an equal, yeah, baseline. That's
- a great word.
- what this is all about. And Kale, it sounds like it's something that you know quite a bit about. And
- so maybe that's something that would be great for an upcoming meeting to share some of those resources,
- have some of that discussion. Because I feel similarly, I don't know much of anything about this. So
- that would be a starting place to
- even be able to answer the question about, you know, how would a petition work? Is that the right process
- of doing it? Would a resolution, you know, would be a better idea, except for that doesn't involve public
- input. Yeah. So, yeah. On like the work sessions, I know with quorum things, are there, is there the
- ability for those commissions to meet in full again outside of it's a one day a month versus there being,
- because then we can,
- two of us can get together and that'd be fine. But then sort of like a chance for this room to be available
- if we set another date in between the main two or something, you know what I mean? I think that that
- is a possibility and, you know, they're, you know. We used to schedule work sessions so that we could
- do, like just get work done where everybody would come in and we would,
- work through ideas and vote on things so that we could go through issues in detail, like we would have
- a time, and it wouldn't be like every month, but we would schedule a time where we would have work sessions.
- Jason, do you remember that? Yeah, and then if there was something affecting or needing the whole commission
- to approve it, then we would bring it back to a regular meeting, and then we would have forum to actual,
- and that would satisfy
- So is there more of an informality to those work sessions because you're saving a forum than for? For
- work sessions, those would still require you to have a forum. Would it still require to have staffing
- requirements as well? Probably at the very least because we would still need to allow for public participation.
- this full setup and everything else like that. But you can decide that in having this session, you're
- not going to take any official action. You're going to deliberate, discuss all of that other sort of
- stuff. So it is still a public meeting open to the subject of the open door law. You still have to have
- forum, but it
- it can be a lot less formal because you can have a fairly limited agenda and, you know, focus more on,
- you know, rolling your sleeves up and really talking something through. I think also with the cameras
- and so if we have an initial meeting just purely focused on like fact-finding per se or ever in individual
- research and that could be
- advertise to the community as a time to express what you think on the block cameras in particular. And
- then we have a separate session, instead of waiting the full month, two weeks or one or three weeks
- or whatever. And that's where we're able to put our heads together, actually work on the resolution
- or whatever the solution is. So it's bifurcated in a sense that one peer focused on is, what is this?
- Yeah. Well, and I would also say this could be a good
- opportunity to have that as a topic suggestion for future agendas. I take away what we have to decide
- on that issue is a bit if it's a longer admission. Yeah.
- I think the thread I've seen is like opening a conversation about what the community means as safety,
- right? And surveillance is like, oh, is it safer to have a ring camera or is that just making somebody
- feel comfortable? Where's the line of, you know, where safety ends, where you're like- Personal surveillance versus
- Can we have a website where we ask the community these types of questions and get their opinions on them?
- options to collect input through a variety of means. We've used Google Forms to be able to distribute
- and then compile information, for example. And figuring out how to make that manageable would be a good thing.
- that is an option. Okay, because in other cities where they have like community responders, they ask
- these types of questions of their community and work off of their feedback. And so I think that is something
- that would be important for us to do is get our community feedback.
- I think that would be easier, too, for students to be able to submit feedback asynchronously versus,
- I mean, I had a class at this time in previous semesters. It's still worth the time. So having that
- available, you can set up a table on Canvas that would do our code and serve what we do. So go on.
- do we go about scheduling a work session, even if we were just to work on a full form, can we do that
- in the email when we adjourn here, or do we have to make that decision when we're all together in that
- meeting to be like, oh, we would love to set up a date for your work session? I would say that it would
- be best if that's something that you discuss in this meeting and then provide direction to, for example,
- for the co-chairs to work with council staff to
- you know, to make it happen. Yeah.
- a lot in terms of other things to tackle on this evening. Yeah. I mean, well, it sounds like what we've
- got on the suggestions for future agendas is potentially either a learning for, but also gathering some
- block information on board, but also
- working or coordinating the Google response sheet. So I'm not sure how we move that forward today. That's,
- I guess that's something that we need to learn that may be entertaining other things for future agendas.
- One thing that I'm thinking about is how we went to the Strike Center. And so, Sharon, you're the only
- one standing out of the three of us that went to there. But I think what I, if I can speak to what I
- learned from there was all the different things that they do. And part of that is mental health, right?
- And so if we're thinking about something that matters in terms of our mission, you know, mental health,
- offering mineral accessible to everyone, I think that would be something that you look forward to. Yeah,
- so are you going to go around for another month or? Yeah, I'll skip that. I would also, another thing
- for this year, that I was about to get a report on the initial loan center for the weekend,
- I should say. Progress, plans are,
- Yeah. Definitely speak to some of the things. It might be good to have a guest speaker from Shalom.
- And Tom, like one of the board members. Because
- A lot of times with the work that I'm doing, I'd say, you know, that's the horizon, which is a good
- horizon. It looks pretty promising, but right now, there's proper departments and permanent supportive
- housing, and the continuum of care funding is all being removed at the federal level, state level, and
- then a little bit, the local level, there's drought. So, like, more awareness and who picks up
- Like one thing that I learned in the alternate public safety research was that, you know, when we don't
- designate who takes care of mental health, it falls on the firefighters, the police officers and stuff
- like that. So big Crawford doesn't get funding that 110 people were put out onto the streets fighting
- for limited shelter beds and other things like that.
- So yeah, and I think that's something that is a little less apparent to people is the downstream effects
- of not doing something or doing something wrong. All right. So can you suggest someone? Should I call
- weekend and ask them to get a speaker for next time? That's a good idea.
- I say, go for it. Right. That may be different. So I think they would certainly be willing to have somebody
- adding me for the work. Should I ask someone in particular or just call and say, or put down the activities
- for outside? Yeah, just call. I don't know who, cause I'm just trying to think, like anybody thinks,
- that I'm not sure who they would want to come to a public meeting. For us, it might be a lot too busy,
- even though. No, I don't mean to bounce back and forth, but it just popped into my head. We were talking
- about work sessions, but also it would be nice to maybe talk to the staff.
- I know that you were positively barring fairly staffing amounts for future months, but how would you
- be feeling about working sessions? Is there a date that maybe the body should be looking towards for
- some of these working sessions that might guarantee that staffing will be available and things like
- that? I think that that's a great point of discussion.
- We have right now past meetings scheduled out, I think, monthly meetings for the rest of this year.
- Being thoughtful about any additional meetings, and I was going to recommend for consideration that
- you know, the next meeting could be a little bit of a discussion around, all right, so here are some
- topics, here's some potential prioritization and a little bit of what scheduling might look like to,
- you know, to do that justice to the topics, including when it's important to get public input. How do
- we want to do that? You know, how do you want to do that? Those sorts of things.
- Um, and so, um, that being the case, um, the co-chairs have quite a bit of latitude as it concerns,
- um, setting the agenda. Um, and, um, we can pull together the notes, um, for this meeting to share with
- you so that you have, you know, a little bit of, um, you know, some organized, um, thoughts to, um,
- to bring the bear to that.
- We, when we're emailing about the next agenda and things like that, it can just be. Yes, absolutely.
- Well, uh, so, um, so you, you're sending the, the gas commission. Maybe more than somebody. You might
- need to go to a different room for that. I can see if I can, um, look it up quickly for you. You guys
- continue on. Um, so.
- As a result, I guess we've gone through everything else. So I move to adjourn the meeting.
- The last second. No, because we don't want to get rid of you, so we can't adjourn the meeting. You guys
- are stuck here.
- tricked again. Procedural. And cammy on the filibuster. That's right. Oh, we don't have to do a roll
- call. Oh, that's wrong. I guess we're a jerk. Thank you. I'll miss you guys. Thank you.
- I'll miss you too, except not, I mean, because I always have the dreams to be friends.