All right, recording is going. All right. Hello, everybody. While we wait for Jason to settle in a little
bit, we can go ahead and, I think, do a roll call for Thursday, January 22nd at 4 p.m. We're going to
meet the advisory and public safety leadership. One, two, three, call.
All right. So I'm going to please do a verbal roll call. Jason? Here. Sharon? Here. I saw your mouth
here. I always have that. Thank you. Thank you.
We are in here, so I believe that is everybody. Thanks for keeping me honest. Okay.
Should have had the agenda and number in the minutes. So motion to approve that. I'll motion to approve
it. Second it. All right, motion and second it. I'll let you call the roll on that. I'll pull up something
if that's okay. All right, sure. I'll just go around. We'll start on Zoom, Cami.
Hi. Robert. Hi. Jason. Hi. That motion passes. Great. So we'll move on to reports. So we'll start with
even co-chairs.
Well, both of us were at Isabella's meeting, right? I think that the work, just a comment, not really
substantive, but to be thinking about how even when you're not representing the commission, you can
still be doing that, the work in between, in other ways, which is really important. I know that with
several iterations of
The commission, there was a lot of tension about wanting to do projects in the commission or do projects
on behalf of the commission, which was acting as individuals. But it's important to remember that us
as individuals are passionate about things. There's all sorts of ways we can get engaged. So push that
out there. And for me, as the other co-chair,
You know, I know that my appointment is ending this month and I'm not renewing something to be relocating.
And I just wanted to send on my thanks to everybody for the work and continuing it, whether in this
condition or others. You know, I know that we're gonna be
in the re-business we're going to be looking at election, electing new officers. You know, I think as
a commentary, I think that we got into a habit with this particular condition and I had as much part
of it as anywhere we were kind of more trying to get an email whether everyone was attending and trying
to get the maximum amount. I think we got into a habit of that.
But, you know, looking at other committees and commissions, I think the default assumption is that really
that folks attend and that they email if that is going to change. So I'm hoping that as the commission
moves on in the future, that we kind of reset, you guys kind of reset yourselves so that that is the
assumption to maybe make sure that, you know,
We assume attendance and goal, you know, for change. That is something that I'm just trying to get everybody
together. I know for me, it was a lot. I'm sure it's a lot of headway for the staff too. So, but other
than that, I really thank everybody and thank City Council folks for letting me tag along on this appointment.
So I guess we'll move on to individual members. Does anybody else have anything to report? Or comments
on it? Secondly, you said about maybe we look forward to the rest of our term to put those dates in
so we all know we're going to be here and plan around it versus things catching us off guard.
But so we can, I think we catch momentum and then we use it and I don't want us to
All right then, moving on to staff. Wait. Oh, you had something to say, sorry. I wanted to thank both
of you for your service.
I don't know you as well as I know Jason, but I'm going to miss you, Jason. All right, we can roll down
the hills together. But thank you both for your service and the work that you've done for the city.
I really appreciate it. And it's going to be missed. So thank you.
We don't have any particular reports. And obviously, if there's any questions for us, we're happy to
answer them now or at any time during the meeting.
If I may, how are you feeling about for staff staffing amounts for February and the next meeting? How
are you feeling about that? Pretty good. So just a little bit about our staffing issues.
We went from three full time to two full time folks at the about the middle of December. During that
period of time, we also
for the students who come in as fellows and interns while they're taking files and having a winter break,
we don't have them either. So we did have a period of time that we were short staffed and also we have
been spending a good amount of time working towards compliance with new federal accessibility requirements.
Some of you may be familiar with those. They're, I think, going to be effective
later on in April and impact, you know, for governmental institutions. So city of Bloomington,
for the county, for IU, everything that they do in terms of distribution of materials through a website
and making sure that they're accessible for all people. So very important work, but certainly a big
undertaking.
We're making good progress on that and I'm sure that we'll continue to make progress and learn as we
go but we're hoping that the heavy lifting for that is done relatively soon and our expectation is that
we will return to you know fairly being able to do normal support for all of the
Uh, for this commission and, um, for all of the council committees as well. Yeah. Good question. So,
um, this is Aria Deb. She is taking Christine's, um, uh, place on a, on a part-time basis. Um, I'm party
Bennett. Um, I am, um, the,
Deputy Attorney and Deputy Administrator. The first meeting that I attended was the last meeting, but
I think that you were there earlier after that one. And Christine has left us. So that was when I said
we went down to two people. That was when she left. But Aria started this week. We've got a couple of
fellows from the OMEAL program that are back and working with us now too.
We're feeling good about that, but a lot of that really just came together just this week. Yeah. So
I think after that we'll move on to public or public comments. I think that there's a check update.
I don't know if that was an old one or. I think that's an old one that let me double check over here.
Yeah. Got it. All right. So yeah, we have somebody in the audience here. I don't know if they want to
come up. No? No. Thank you. And then anybody that is a guest on Zoom, if they have any. I got something.
Yeah. So that is Isabel.
Um, she is saying that she has something for, um, for the old business, um, for a, the report on, um,
the response from the mayor's office. Um, and she wanted to know if she should wait until that time
period to, um, bring that up, um, which we're going to go straight to that afterwards. So seems like
it. So, um, yeah, as a matter of fact, I mean, we may as well let,
I'll speak on that first. I'm assuming everybody has read at the bottom the actual thread. There she
is. Can you unmute yourself, Isabel? Yes, I can. Hi, everybody. So I did hear back from the mayor's
office that they
did before the end of 2025, they did enter into a contract with LEAP, which is the Law Enforcement Action
Partnership, to do, yes, Cami knows how long we were working on that, finally, for them to do a study
of our 911 calls and make recommendations on how best to use our current resources, including Stride
Mobile and others,
to address 911 calls that currently are just all go to the police. So that is a great update that they're
going to be conducting that study. It'll take six to nine months. So by September, we should have something.
And I actually am happy to share maybe I can
share it with you via email or the staff can. The scope of work that LEAP has, you know, that the agreement
has decided upon. Isabel, we're happy if you want to send it my way. Well, we're happy to distribute
it to committee members or commission members if that's easiest. Yeah, that'd be great. Thank you. Sorry,
I didn't think of it earlier to put in the packet.
No, that is good news, because I felt like the last message that I got was still very vague. So to have
those details is much more refreshing than what I had to report. So to report Trump's mother. I have
a question for Isabel.
So Isabelle, when LEAP does this, will they include, like, the, well, we said 911 call, so that's the
lead, and then stride, and then is there anybody else that sort of incorporate it all so we can have,
like, a consolidated picture?
I think that's the idea. So they would also talk to, like the fire department has their, what are they
called, mental health, community health people that, mobile integrated health is what it's called, that
visit people. So they would also be, you know, talk to, Leap would talk to them and would talk to other
stakeholders. I don't have the scope of work in front of me right now, but I think
Yeah, they would have a comprehensive view of who might better handle some of the calls. I know originally
that was part of the plan to talk to the fire department as well, the mobile intervention unit, whatever.
I can't think of what it's called, but that was originally part of the plan. I'm so excited.
I wish it hadn't taken so long, but I'm so excited that this is finally the end result. So I'm just
happy. So thank you for that news. Well, thank you for your advocacy.
Jason for some of the new stuff because I'm still, I'm a little unsure about the process for our shoe
box. So things like that, so. Yeah. Yeah, so really we just need two people to mediate the meeting and
to prepare the agenda with staff. So those, we've worked in a co-chair model
We used to have a more constant rotating model so that everyone would get a chance to be a valetarian
and somebody could take over. But it seems that we were asked to have more consistency and so we switched
to year long terms. So we have two co-chairs so that the balance doesn't just fall on one of the other
of you. And really, like I said, it's just mediating
and working with staff to put stuff on the agenda. And with that, you can just ask the rest
of the commission. So it's just taking on a temporary, greater role. And that's been Robert and I, in
case it wasn't my chance. So would you say this is like a couple hours a month?
Yeah. Right. Yeah, I'd say that. And also, like, as Robert was saying, I think if you could
get an expectation going that people were expected to attend and would email otherwise, you wouldn't
be chasing around people. But we've been sending we've been the one sending those emails and routing.
Yeah, I'm good at that.
But in other iterations, it was really just like, last agenda, do we have anything to add, do we have
anything to take off? Yeah, let's put it out. So yeah, it was written like only a couple of hours. But
then we were also doing lunch that night. So not the spoke shoes. And as we switch over to that, you
guys had to land the moment where I was here.
Is there an opportunity for you to write. Or we're like, okay, this is how it is. Here's the point of
things that I understand. I feel like we still haven't been given a lot of the tools. I feel like they're
still very new and also kind of confused often by all the door, open door policy, structured events.
Yeah, I'd certainly be willing to be in informal contact. And there's nothing proprietary about it.
It's not like I have to turn my files over and turn over my email and everything is taken away from
me. I mean, I don't have a paper on there, but I, yeah, we did a little repair. I would propose that,
you know, folks, like individual folks could email both of us and then we
to that and obviously as long as a significant amount of people did not, as long as like two other commission
members didn't get some sort of work done. Yeah. And some of that makes sense. Like I learned about
and like the rest of the commission learned about with staff and city legal rights and like open door
laws and stuff like that.
And there's still the plan of the potential training. But also, you know, we want to tell that happens
if people are okay. That that training is still intended to happen relatively soon. Through Jennifer,
yeah, proselyte in the clerk's office. And, you know, we of course, it
council staff will continue to provide support, including, you know, keeping on top of open door law.
The law usually changes in some way or another almost every year that the General Assembly meets. And
you may have noticed on the agenda that one thing that's relatively new is everybody
has their name appearing on the agenda along with your terms as well. So that's something that became
law last year. That's going to be our agenda? Yes. Yes. So we will continue to keep on top of that stuff
and provide support too. So I think one thing that I was never clear
So we hadn't, we had a rotated position. And I went with this. I was kind of volunteered. Yeah.
So it was, you know, we as a body volunteer people and do, again, suggest folks in Accenture to be encouraged
people to step up on their own.
I mean, usually last time it was more helpful when we had a lot more season numbers. It was usually
one season number with one newer number. I'll help.
Yeah, and Cammie's been a co-chair before, so co-chairing is possible. Cammie was the first co-chair.
Actually, the Cammie co-chairs, that's the official name of the position.
Well, I know that obviously we would be elected to it, Senator, but we still have another position open.
So if there were to be one of them, would you vote for each one of them? Well, we just throw these in.
Does anybody else want to fight for it? I mean, truthfully, I don't even know if I'm going to be on
the commission. After January 31, I haven't gotten
word that I don't know if the council decided or yeah. I can probably provide a little bit of insight
into that with the way that these appointments are up at the end of January. So for part of
the commissioners, you know, they're up the end of this January.
with the council electing new leadership at the beginning of the year and then starting to have their
committees. They are working through applications and it may just take a little while longer to hear
just with everybody getting things scheduled. So yeah, just expect that you will hear it just maybe
a little bit delayed from what it has been in the past.
I was just wondering on that note actually, would it be the same process like first time where it was
like, not an interview, but you know, you came in, you spoke and then you came on commission or you're
already part reapplying will just be smoother sale? That's a great question. And I honestly, I don't
have enough experience yet to know that for sure. And so,
So I apologize. We can find that out and let you know. In the past, we just reapplied. And if there
wasn't anything wrong, they just kind of reviewed. And they're like, yeah, this member is good. They've
been showing up. And then just notified us. So yeah, there wasn't another interview. I would expect
that it would be the same way going forward then. Isabel has made a couple of statements in chat. So
if he has said,
Members can continue to serve for a period of time until the reappointment decisions. If you, if your
term is expiring, you do need to reapply if you want to and I know that both of you have.
then yeah, it sounds like you'll be able to serve, you know, even beyond your period of time until you
hear back, which like I said, it's not going to take a super long time or anything like that. It's just
beginning of the year is rough sometimes, right? So yeah, thank you as well. All right, so we have two folks
except for just a voice vote. Yeah, yeah. So, Cami and Carol have volunteered to be the co-shares. So,
we're going to vote to appoint them. So, we'll go around by a voice vote. We'll skip the chairs first.
Do you want to say a vote together?
I think you can do them as a slate of candidates. Unless anybody poses, we can vote for them together.
Okay. I will skip the candidates and do them last. So they don't feel self-aggrandizing. It's Roger.
Hi. Gretchen. Hi. Jason. Hi. Sharon. Hi. I love the iteration, candy and kale.
Oh, Cammy. Cammy. Cammy. Yes, I think that was Yasmin. Hi. Yasmin. Unanimously approve. All right. You
should know that as leaders, you have everybody behind you. Yeah, I appreciate it. Except for us, for
new teams. It's not you, it's us. Yeah. I'm not gonna feel that either, so. I'm impressed. On the...
I was going to talk about, not that I was looking at everyone's terms. Yeah. The question, yeah. Did
you plan on reapplying or were you more thinking you were going to end? No, I reapplied. OK, cool. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Jennifer privately sent me her email. I checked it. Yeah. I wonder if Erin. I think it depends
also on how many other people are applying. And because now we have a place for nine people.
Agenda has died with the baking style. So is good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This makes things a little
with quorum, whether or not Andy would not marry. Who's going to marry quorum? I wish there was more
vision into that. Yeah, because quorum is patched. It's not a set number. So depending on the number
of total members that you have, quorum's going to change. It'll at least drop by one. Two members are going on.
that change in here? I think I think remember, at least at one time, it was half of the number of people
in the condition. Yeah. I mean, no, it was the number of slots we have. It's a little it is it is a
little bit unclear in the Bloomington municipal code.
And I think the overall preference is to make sure that we have a full slate of appointments for all
boards and commissions. And I'm going to take an action item to follow up with Jennifer and talk a little
bit about schedule and timing for the interview committee and the review process.
You know, maybe one of the big things that would be helpful for for members of the commission is,
you know, first of all, you know, you know, for people whose terms are up.
You know, we know a couple of you have already reapplied, which is great. But if, just as a suggestion,
if somebody could maybe do some, offer to do some outreach with Erin to find out if she intends to reapply.
And then also think about any other, you know, outreach you can do in the community. The city, of course,
you know, routinely
issues, press releases to let people know that there are appointments available. And through the website
will clearly indicate that there are positions available. But the best advocates are the people who
are serving on the commission now and doing the work of the commission now. So I think that's worth
talking about what different avenues you might want to use to do a little bit of supplemental outreach.
Um, because it is true. And, you know, at the very least we've got positions, um, to fill, um, getting,
getting those, so this will be as possible. It would be beneficial. Without reaches there, right? Um,
not, is there like a certain place or time here that are more targeted in terms of people who need to
be, that we want to have on, on campus? Just anyone who wants to get involved.
that's been an ongoing conversation because CAPS is supposed to represent underrepresented people. And
so we've talked about how to get a diversity of people without, you know, just saying, we don't have
any black people, right? So like, it's harder, but trying to recruit somebody that's not like us, or
we talked about getting somebody who's data oriented because we're all not
don't seem to be number crunchers. That would be nice. Yeah. But I mean, and you know, I know I've said
this a number of times, all the more reason for us to get back to assuming, yeah, attendance. Yeah.
Yeah. And once, unless otherwise, one could count on the people who are here asking to join or like,
we can forward and show it. Yeah. Because we're ready to do some things.
So the people we do know, I think they're going to do the best they can to suggest. Yeah, because I
mean, I am the only person in the classroom still in school that has an undergraduate degree. So the
people I know on the majority of the graduate school, so would that be something that would be OK to
talk about it with them and ask them if they're going to be involved in that situation or if somebody
wanted to be their way because of that?
Yeah, I'm biased, but of course, but I would say that's a bonus because then there's, we've been continuing
to talk about bridges so that the city's not operating separate. The university was just kind of a big
player. But yeah, also to have different perspectives in school and not just like grad students. That'd
be good. I agree with that too.
Yeah, that's why I was a little, you know, it's a little bit of an elephant in this universe, you know,
it's part of the role that I do. Yeah. Well, I'll apologize, Mary, for me, it's a little bit humorous,
but I'm on the day job. What were the details for the commission appointments in 2016?
And it covered that. I think absolutely on the commission appointments and adding 2026 business was
really just thinking about the fact that it's January, it's a new year. I think this works hand in hand
with the commission appointments, thinking through, you know, what are the area potential areas of
focus, you know, either things that, you know, are carrying forward from 2025 or have been, you know,
sort of on the list that it
makes sense to turn to, obviously there was the discussion earlier about the study that's going to be
done on the 911 falls. And there will be a period of time that that study is just happening,
but you know, when the report comes out, you know, anticipating what the commission might have to do
with that, you know, anything there I think is also helpful in, you know, in when you're, you know,
potentially do an outreach to people who might want to join the commission to tell them, hey, these
are the kinds of things that we work on and what we plan on focusing on for the next year. Yeah.
I don't know. I mean, I think I've said in previous meetings and we've been trying to get there and
obviously the goal of the continuing is to refer back to the
2023 reports, what was the specific name for that? When you reported to the city with the cask. I can
see the picture. Yeah. Yeah, our, our 2023 report that we, that our body made to cancel. The alternative
public safety report. Yes. I mean, it seemed like, uh,
It was a good idea to try and view to that and look at some of the, you know, bullet points that were
made. And obviously we've had a lot of churn of members. So that could be a good guidepost for future
kind of bullet points to like look into. And I think staying in the lift is both.
And so we talk a lot about the alternative to 911 dispatching. So anything we can do while we wait for
six months or any like outfits around that, that can help support when it does come out, we're ready
for like cold drive, whatever that means. Yeah.
At one time, we talked about having a social worker, or maybe just one, who works with the police department
come and speak to us, and maybe getting some of that data from the police department about,
I don't know, about 911 calls or. I think that'll all come with the lease. Supposedly,
There are some budget requests that evaluate and optimize the patch operations, implement police protocols
and dispatch. I guess that a lot of that will be covered in this report. There's going to come out of
this that Isabelle is involved, but I would like to have someone come speak to us.
Isabel said that she made an error and the leap study won't start until April and that it will take
seven months from then. I was wondering,
if maybe we could do something to get our community more involved with the coming program that we might
have. You know what I mean? To like let them know that this might be possible to find out their opinions,
like to hype them up about the fact that we might have this opportunity available to them.
I don't know. Has in the past the apps commission done kind of more of a public forum at like the library
that people attend? Yeah. Down hall.
We were on stage for that, that's why. Thank you for remembering our performance. And that was good.
The way that was formed is it was around before the release of the alternative public safety report.
And then we formed people into physical breakout rooms. And then I think the Zoom people had their own
breakout room. Breakout Zoom.
And they discuss common topics. And then we had reporters anonymize their responses and brought those
all together. And so as people getting together, either in a physical space or in a Zoom space, which
is still engaged and voicing their concerns and having those heard. And then the commission works with
that. I think that was, I live now down the road from somebody who first
heard about the cast mission through that, and she said that was, she felt really engaged. She's already
a person who's well engaged with the community but yeah I think that's a way to show them into our work,
but then also yes, the fact that they can influence government without having to commit to a commission there.
Yeah, I think we're done with all the new business. Does anybody have any last minute things that they
want to talk about? I think the one thing I think about kind of the structure of admission and seems
like you guys have done large reports and broader things, but I kind of think about smaller actionable
items to address.
some public safety concerns or maybe have smaller things that we can chew off. I guess one of them that
I would suggest for a future thing would be discussing our contractors. We contract with Fox surveillance
as we learn more about AI surveillance and how it's being used to harm public. I've seen some cities
create petitions with
Um, themselves and then bring it to the city council or commissions, but I wondered about maybe the
commission or like, what's the legality and that of us, like starting with something like the conversation
around that and then potential like community engagement around addressing something like that. Like,
is it appropriate for me to start a petition to like it? I would probably need to, uh,
I think I'd need to understand a little bit more about what I'm not familiar enough with. Did you say
it was Fox? Fox, it's this camera. Okay. I know we had a renewed contract with them and purchase in
2024. Yeah, I think maybe we're coming up on potential to
not renewable, or ships. That, and I think that's something that's tied into public safety pretty severely.
And so maybe something very small and actionable we could do in the first months. And then we find another
smaller thing where we're like, okay, how do we feel about this? Or how does the community feel about
this? What can we do? And things versus the big picture where I was, we are painting big pictures, but
for all purpose. And hopefully these little things will give us
things that we can actually get done. Yeah, it's in a lot of cities currently. It grew really fast and
most police departments or cities have contracts with this company and they are, they actively use it
for immigration to use AI to connect. It's all been fed into
the weapon that is being created against the public. And so there's a lot of concern from a lot of cities
and also a lot of community members about it, including myself. So I was like, oh, is this something
that I can start the petition? Or should it be something that if we should ask the public about it and
then figure out how the public feels about it and then start something like that? Or, yeah, because
I want to start. So is there a person or department that administers that? The police department?
Yeah. They drop the cameras off around different places. They're like those little rolly ones you'll
see in the parking lots of Kroger. They're looking to your car, facial recognition, license plate, registers.
They're looking to see what you're stealing. If you're stealing, they're like getting used to your purchases.
And it's, you know, they are scary. But surveillance isn't even scary. Are they? I asked him about it
today. So there is, I have sneaky.
I have a little video that it's just 11 minutes. I'll be happy to just pass it direct to you and email.
So it's kind of a nice encapsulation, at least at the very minimum from an IT perspective, but everyone's
got some of the security and privacy issues that can be involved with the deployment of flaw cameras.
It's definitely a concern.
Um, so I can pass that over to you so you can be a little more. There's a lot of concern that was presented
by the ACLU when we first, when FOC was first getting in contact with the city, that was presented by
previous parties that now has, they have proven to do the things that they're concerned about, which
is where they choose to place them to monitor.
General business? It's a private property. It's not all of them. They're all connected. So you can have
private ones, you can have public ones, but they're all connected because it's a network that you give
to one company that then is feeding that to whoever wants to pay for it. No, I believe the cameras at
Kroger, for example, are through Kroger, through another company. I don't think that there, but it's
a similar name. Just for clarity. And then,
something to put to the rest of the staff, another option would be, you know, we're talking about setting
up, or at least we're talking about setting up a petition. You know, if this is not a good idea for,
you know, the CAHPS commission to sponsor, can individuals act as individual citizens to set that up
and not have it impact on them?
So that might be, you don't have to answer that now. That might be something to get back with us about.
I think that's great. And if I could suggest that maybe a good starting place for this is, you know,
an education session of this commission so that everybody is sort of on an equal, yeah, baseline. That's
a great word.
what this is all about. And Kale, it sounds like it's something that you know quite a bit about. And
so maybe that's something that would be great for an upcoming meeting to share some of those resources,
have some of that discussion. Because I feel similarly, I don't know much of anything about this. So
that would be a starting place to
even be able to answer the question about, you know, how would a petition work? Is that the right process
of doing it? Would a resolution, you know, would be a better idea, except for that doesn't involve public
input. Yeah. So, yeah. On like the work sessions, I know with quorum things, are there, is there the
ability for those commissions to meet in full again outside of it's a one day a month versus there being,
because then we can,
two of us can get together and that'd be fine. But then sort of like a chance for this room to be available
if we set another date in between the main two or something, you know what I mean? I think that that
is a possibility and, you know, they're, you know. We used to schedule work sessions so that we could
do, like just get work done where everybody would come in and we would,
work through ideas and vote on things so that we could go through issues in detail, like we would have
a time, and it wouldn't be like every month, but we would schedule a time where we would have work sessions.
Jason, do you remember that? Yeah, and then if there was something affecting or needing the whole commission
to approve it, then we would bring it back to a regular meeting, and then we would have forum to actual,
and that would satisfy
So is there more of an informality to those work sessions because you're saving a forum than for? For
work sessions, those would still require you to have a forum. Would it still require to have staffing
requirements as well? Probably at the very least because we would still need to allow for public participation.
this full setup and everything else like that. But you can decide that in having this session, you're
not going to take any official action. You're going to deliberate, discuss all of that other sort of
stuff. So it is still a public meeting open to the subject of the open door law. You still have to have
forum, but it
it can be a lot less formal because you can have a fairly limited agenda and, you know, focus more on,
you know, rolling your sleeves up and really talking something through. I think also with the cameras
and so if we have an initial meeting just purely focused on like fact-finding per se or ever in individual
research and that could be
advertise to the community as a time to express what you think on the block cameras in particular. And
then we have a separate session, instead of waiting the full month, two weeks or one or three weeks
or whatever. And that's where we're able to put our heads together, actually work on the resolution
or whatever the solution is. So it's bifurcated in a sense that one peer focused on is, what is this?
Yeah. Well, and I would also say this could be a good
opportunity to have that as a topic suggestion for future agendas. I take away what we have to decide
on that issue is a bit if it's a longer admission. Yeah.
I think the thread I've seen is like opening a conversation about what the community means as safety,
right? And surveillance is like, oh, is it safer to have a ring camera or is that just making somebody
feel comfortable? Where's the line of, you know, where safety ends, where you're like- Personal surveillance versus
Can we have a website where we ask the community these types of questions and get their opinions on them?
options to collect input through a variety of means. We've used Google Forms to be able to distribute
and then compile information, for example. And figuring out how to make that manageable would be a good thing.
that is an option. Okay, because in other cities where they have like community responders, they ask
these types of questions of their community and work off of their feedback. And so I think that is something
that would be important for us to do is get our community feedback.
I think that would be easier, too, for students to be able to submit feedback asynchronously versus,
I mean, I had a class at this time in previous semesters. It's still worth the time. So having that
available, you can set up a table on Canvas that would do our code and serve what we do. So go on.
do we go about scheduling a work session, even if we were just to work on a full form, can we do that
in the email when we adjourn here, or do we have to make that decision when we're all together in that
meeting to be like, oh, we would love to set up a date for your work session? I would say that it would
be best if that's something that you discuss in this meeting and then provide direction to, for example,
for the co-chairs to work with council staff to
you know, to make it happen. Yeah.
a lot in terms of other things to tackle on this evening. Yeah. I mean, well, it sounds like what we've
got on the suggestions for future agendas is potentially either a learning for, but also gathering some
block information on board, but also
working or coordinating the Google response sheet. So I'm not sure how we move that forward today. That's,
I guess that's something that we need to learn that may be entertaining other things for future agendas.
One thing that I'm thinking about is how we went to the Strike Center. And so, Sharon, you're the only
one standing out of the three of us that went to there. But I think what I, if I can speak to what I
learned from there was all the different things that they do. And part of that is mental health, right?
And so if we're thinking about something that matters in terms of our mission, you know, mental health,
offering mineral accessible to everyone, I think that would be something that you look forward to. Yeah,
so are you going to go around for another month or? Yeah, I'll skip that. I would also, another thing
for this year, that I was about to get a report on the initial loan center for the weekend,
I should say. Progress, plans are,
Yeah. Definitely speak to some of the things. It might be good to have a guest speaker from Shalom.
And Tom, like one of the board members. Because
A lot of times with the work that I'm doing, I'd say, you know, that's the horizon, which is a good
horizon. It looks pretty promising, but right now, there's proper departments and permanent supportive
housing, and the continuum of care funding is all being removed at the federal level, state level, and
then a little bit, the local level, there's drought. So, like, more awareness and who picks up
Like one thing that I learned in the alternate public safety research was that, you know, when we don't
designate who takes care of mental health, it falls on the firefighters, the police officers and stuff
like that. So big Crawford doesn't get funding that 110 people were put out onto the streets fighting
for limited shelter beds and other things like that.
So yeah, and I think that's something that is a little less apparent to people is the downstream effects
of not doing something or doing something wrong. All right. So can you suggest someone? Should I call
weekend and ask them to get a speaker for next time? That's a good idea.
I say, go for it. Right. That may be different. So I think they would certainly be willing to have somebody
adding me for the work. Should I ask someone in particular or just call and say, or put down the activities
for outside? Yeah, just call. I don't know who, cause I'm just trying to think, like anybody thinks,
that I'm not sure who they would want to come to a public meeting. For us, it might be a lot too busy,
even though. No, I don't mean to bounce back and forth, but it just popped into my head. We were talking
about work sessions, but also it would be nice to maybe talk to the staff.
I know that you were positively barring fairly staffing amounts for future months, but how would you
be feeling about working sessions? Is there a date that maybe the body should be looking towards for
some of these working sessions that might guarantee that staffing will be available and things like
that? I think that that's a great point of discussion.
We have right now past meetings scheduled out, I think, monthly meetings for the rest of this year.
Being thoughtful about any additional meetings, and I was going to recommend for consideration that
you know, the next meeting could be a little bit of a discussion around, all right, so here are some
topics, here's some potential prioritization and a little bit of what scheduling might look like to,
you know, to do that justice to the topics, including when it's important to get public input. How do
we want to do that? You know, how do you want to do that? Those sorts of things.
Um, and so, um, that being the case, um, the co-chairs have quite a bit of latitude as it concerns,
um, setting the agenda. Um, and, um, we can pull together the notes, um, for this meeting to share with
you so that you have, you know, a little bit of, um, you know, some organized, um, thoughts to, um,
to bring the bear to that.
We, when we're emailing about the next agenda and things like that, it can just be. Yes, absolutely.
Well, uh, so, um, so you, you're sending the, the gas commission. Maybe more than somebody. You might
need to go to a different room for that. I can see if I can, um, look it up quickly for you. You guys
continue on. Um, so.
As a result, I guess we've gone through everything else. So I move to adjourn the meeting.
The last second. No, because we don't want to get rid of you, so we can't adjourn the meeting. You guys
are stuck here.
tricked again. Procedural. And cammy on the filibuster. That's right. Oh, we don't have to do a roll
call. Oh, that's wrong. I guess we're a jerk. Thank you. I'll miss you guys. Thank you.
I'll miss you too, except not, I mean, because I always have the dreams to be friends.