- It is 5.45, so I'm going to call this meeting to order, and we can start with attendance. My name is
- Sydney Zuluk. I represent Bloomington City Council District 6. I am here. Matt Flair, do you have a
- large representative on the council? Willow, District 4, City Council. I said something else. Jennifer Crossley.
- I'm Drew Herron. I'm a real estate agent at Remax Plain Properties here in town, and I'm here to interview
- for the Historic Preservation Commission. I'll come and thank you for being here. I'll open the floor
- to my colleagues on a moment. Questions? Sure. Yeah. Thanks so much, Drew, for your interest in your
- application for the Historic Preservation Commission. Maybe we can start by just telling us a little
- bit more in your own words about what interests you about the commission while you decided to apply. Yeah.
- I'll kind of give you a little background about myself a little bit. So I've been in real estate for
- about three years now. I'm getting closer to four and I've been brought into the new construction side
- of everything. So I feel like I've got a really good base on new construction planning and everything
- of that sort, but that I'm lacking kind of the extra knowledge that would go into the normal historic
- side of everything. So I decided to kind of diversify my knowledge, expand my knowledge as well.
- both sides of everything. That way I can be kind of a well-rounded agent myself for my business, but
- also get a better understanding of the community that we have here. There's a lot of different historic
- areas, and it's kind of nice to have communities still in touch with that. It seems like the state is
- as well from some of the research I've been doing that got different layers of historic commissions,
- or not commissions, but zoning here. Thank you. My turn? Yes.
- Okay. Great to meet you, Mr. Heron. Have you attended any historic preservation meetings either virtually
- or live? I haven't had a chance to be one live, but I did get to watch a portion of the last meeting
- that was going on. I got a base understanding of the process that is done during a commission meeting.
- I had to hear a lot about a retaining wall and about a 30-minute section of that. Give me a
- good understanding of what to expect and also how we're helping the community either stay in line with
- the historic designations that are out there for certain homes and how to maintain that as well. Well,
- good. I noticed their agenda, they had a lot on their agenda.
- They had a lot of- That was a two-hour and 30-minute meeting. I didn't quite get through all of it,
- but I got a good understanding from there. Yeah. Everything from blowing solar panels to a certain gate
- and so forth. Yeah. But there are some major ones like demolition delay. Yeah. That's probably one of
- the most important things that was powers that were given to the commission was
- You know the delay in a demolition to evaluate the the the home and and so forth. Could could you give
- us a little feel for like what what would you be considering Delay process to two of the things that
- kind of stuck out. I mean, it's still kind of lies demolition on
- not quite a full size home itself, but one of them was a garage that was built on the side of a property
- that was in disarray. It was really falling apart and the petitioner came in asking for it to be demolished
- and proposed a plan and now to reutilize that space. And part of the reason that she was wanting to
- get the demolition done is because there were college students running around jumping on top of it and
- then putting themselves at risk. So putting the risk on the property owners and also the college students
- themselves.
- having the power to give that demolition process, but then also she proposed inside her request to then
- use the same styling of limestone that was used to rehabilitate that small section. How they were going
- to do it will kind of determine the overall look, whether that's, you know, having a retaining wall
- and filling in that land, just extend the land overall. And then, then there was a question about,
- you know, parking, which is now here and over there, but
- The safety part of it is what a big part of what I enjoyed about that. So that was a big part of something
- I took out of that. And the next one was it was filling in a pool. So an older lady, she had a pool
- for about 40 years and her kids are gone, her husband's gone, and she was just kind of there by herself.
- And this pool is falling apart, leaking, and it's just not something that she can utilize anymore. And
- it was also becoming a safety hazard for her because she can't swim. She's a walker.
- issue would rather have it filled in and utilizes more of a green space rather than an empty pool in
- her backyard is kind of more of a hazard. Things of that nature spoke a lot to me because it was more
- of a safety concern for people. In terms of demolition of a full home, it would just come down to how
- much and disarray is the home. Is it too much of a safety hazard to be rebuilt from where it's at? Is
- the foundation caving in because
- If the foundation's already a huge issue, then you're gonna have a hard time keeping the main part of
- the structure in good shape until that's taken care of. And I've worked with another agent in town.
- I bought a home just off of High Street where she had to, it was a historic home, but what they did
- was that they tore apart, tore down the home, but then preserved
- portions of the foundation that were still in good shape. That way they can still keep the integrity
- of the historic aspect of that home, while also bringing a new home to the community that was in much
- better shape. Because before it was, as she called it, a cesspool filled with water on the corner of
- High Street, which as Pastor Powers, it's not a good look, but now it's being utilized properly. Well,
- you've exhibited quite a lot of knowledge of that.
- particular meeting and I appreciate that. Could I just ask one more follow-up just to ask? The deliberations
- are trying to walk a line between retaining the character of historic structures and being too stringent
- in terms of use or cost. Do you feel you
- can walk that, can, you know, sort of balance those two poles? Yeah, understanding the balance between
- having a, preserving the historic nature of the site while also being as cost-efficient on the petitioner
- in question is something that I would, I would like to make it a point for myself, because the last
- thing I don't want to do is go out of my way to make it even harder for someone to make them
- cost of even more on a project, I want to be able to make sure it's fair and also in line with the historic
- nature of the area. Great. Thank you. I appreciate your answers. I just have one more question and that
- is, do you anticipate any confidence and interest given your line of work? If you do, how would you
- approach that? When it comes to conflict of interest,
- if at all possible, just recuse myself, especially if it's regarding a family member. Because obviously,
- there's some bias there. So obviously, recusing myself is the easiest portion. And then obviously, I
- can still be a form of insight for people and a resource for people to utilize. But taking myself out
- of certain situations, whether that's involving myself with someone directly in my office, with family
- member, then it's probably just recuse myself. That's great. Thank you.
- Anyone else have any questions? Yeah. A couple of things, just more logistical in nature. When we're
- appointing commissions, we always want to make sure folks are generally available to attend meetings
- with relatively rare conflicts. Also, while virtual attendances can be relied upon also in exceptional
- circumstances, all meetings have to have a majority in person. Just wanted to check in on your ability
- to attend those bi-weekly Thursday evening, five to seven commission meetings.
- The good thing about my job is that it is very flexible and I can create my own schedule. As long as
- I can keep my clients I work with in line with the schedule that I don't want to focus on and being
- a part of these commissions or any other committees I want to be a part on. My flexibility makes it
- easier to be a part of these things. Then obviously, I have to be careful with my five-month old a little
- bit because sometimes kids are unpredictable in terms of health. That'd be my only potential restriction.
- And then just another note for your information that there are both mayoral appointments and council
- appointments to the commission and the council appointments, correct me if I'm wrong, but they're non-voting.
- Correct. Correct. So we have seen a fair number of occasions where folks are elevated from a non-voting
- council appointment to a mayoral appointment and everybody participates equally with the exception of
- voting on proposals or petitions. So just wanted to make sure you're aware of that as well.
- So you're saying that in a role that I would be potentially filling in as a non-voting role, but I would
- still give some insight and some clarification on how some things could be taken advantage of. And then
- there's a possibility now or in the future to be elevated to a voting portion. That's right. That's
- more than likely. OK, gotcha. Dave, more questions, sir? No, I'm satisfied. Thanks. Thank you for coming
- and sharing with us.
- Thank you very much for your time. I'll have one follow-up maybe kind of related to what Councilmember
- Morales was sharing, which is just that we have a lot of guidance actually about how these decisions
- should be made with it. So we have city code and other historic districts that neighborhoods or districts
- adopt that should guide the decision-making and there are balancing things like public safety and cost
- and feasibility. So all that's kind of contained within a framework that is part of
- formal city policy, so that's kind of what's meant to guide the decision making. Of course, there is
- judgment involved, so you are balancing and weighing those things, but I just wanted to also clarify
- that it's not abstract, it's quite specific. Yeah, it's quite specific, and then it also applies to
- in line with the planning codes as well, because then you're also intertwined, so you have restrictions
- on historic levels and then planning levels as well, so they're always kind of coming along some way.
- Yeah, I just wanted to, I guess, check in with you. Do you think your skill set and interests are well-suited
- to that type of
- process. Yeah, my interests are definitely in line with that and just gaining a better understanding
- on both sides of everything. Obviously, my skill set for improvement, at least that's a goal of mine
- to continuously educate myself and attend regular meetings to make sure I'm still following up with
- some changes that are going on. I know there were some recent changes in what's it called, zoning. By
- one point, we went from like 43 down to 17 or whatever the numbers were. So trying to stay in line with
- that and understand what's going on is more in line.
- Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Just so you know, we are having a co-hosted meeting
- with the HBC on October 15th for like a deliberation on Bloomington Historic Code and how we might be
- able to change it so that it works for our people. So you are more than welcome to come.
- I did that as well. It's on Wednesday, October 15th at 6.30. Is that posted on your guys' calendar?
- Yes. Perfect. I will look that up as well. Great. Thank you so much. I'm so lovely to meet you.
- I'm excited. Great to meet you, virtual handshake. You as well. Yeah. I was going to share it with the
- next staff. Go ahead. Just that we're a committee of the council.
- that makes recommendations to the council for appointments. We also have some other interviews for the
- Arts Commission tonight, then we'll deliberate as a committee, make any recommendations on appointments,
- Jennifer coordinates those with the clerk's office and council, and it usually takes a few weeks before
- those actually appear on our agenda for a formal vote by the council who is the appointed entity. You
- can always check in with Clerk Crossley if you have questions.
- Uh, but you could expect to hear from us. I would say that's two to three weeks of time. I won't bother
- you too much. You're totally fine. All good. And that is all. Awesome. Well, thank you guys for your
- time. I really appreciate it. It's nice meeting you as well. Hi. Hello. Welcome in. Welcome. I'm in
- the right spot. Are you Brandy? I am. Yes. Okay.
- Where would you like me to sit? Wherever you would like to sit. Here you can also see our third colleague
- who is on screen. Yes, it has to be open. Hi. Hi. Hello. Thank you. Thanks for the invite. Is everybody
- here? Welcome both of you. Thank you so much for being here. We are going to go ahead and get started
- with just some questions.
- Would you like to start it? Sure. Great to meet you both. I'm Matt Flaherty. I'm an at-large city council
- member, one of the three committee members here responsible for making recommendations to the Arts Commission
- for appointments to the Arts Commission. Maybe we just start with an introduction. For each question,
- maybe I suggest that we alternate who goes first to keep it fair, in a sense. Maybe, Randy, we can start
- with you in the room for this first one, which is just maybe tell us a little bit about yourself and
- what got you interested in serving on the Arts Commission. Thanks.
- My name is Brandy McDonald, my pronouns are she, her. I currently work as the executive director at
- the Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology.
- I am deeply passionate about supporting arts within the community. I think it's the driving force. From
- a lot of the work that I do within museums, even though I'm from cultural anthropology, art is an underlying
- factor, especially looking at the foundations for building creative capital and especially when I think
- about a lot of communities that are either underserved or rural communities and many communities that
- I've worked with within Indigenous communities.
- Artists are the heartbeat of ensuring that cultural revitalization and traditions are there. They're
- also typically the economic drivers and support systems of most of the families with a lot of the communities
- I work. And so seeing and coming here in Bloomington and the ways in which that the community connects
- to the artists and the way that art and just I think that the community cares about each other and how
- art is that connecting factor. And the way that I've seen the Arts Commission support those
- initiatives and build a stronger foundation for variety of different touch points for art, I think it's
- just fantastic. And I want to be a part of that. I want to be able to leverage the work that I've done
- with creating these points of connection, supporting creative capital and figuring out how I can be
- a best service to the community that I now belong to. Thank you. Oh, I don't know. Nice. She's here.
- She just has her camera turned off. There's a message in the chat. There we are. Hi. Hi. I'm sorry.
- I'm a little bit trying to figure out what the procedure is. My name is Lynn Hooker. I have just rejoined
- the Bloomington community. I was here for a time and left in 2015 and I'm returning.
- come to this application as a music scholar. I've been involved in music for my whole life. One of the
- wonderful things about the Bloomington community is how richly as the previous candidate who I should
- have written down your name, just spoke about the way that the arts bring people together and
- and specifically how music is such an important thing for creating opportunities for social interaction,
- for people to participate together, as well as for people to appreciate the wonderful artists that come
- together in Bloomington of all kinds of genres of music.
- as well as people who have been resident in the region for a long time, supporting the synergies that
- the arts and especially music, given that that's my area of expertise, bring to the community seems
- like a really important thing that I've just now really
- become more aware of what the commission can do for that. And I am interested in being a part of it
- and seeing what I can contribute in terms of my knowledge and bringing together other aspects, other
- different kinds of music and arts and
- the perspectives that I bring from having lived both in Bloomington and other parts of the state and
- finding out what the Arts Commission can do to leverage the resources of the city to keep that great
- energy going. Thank you. Dave, do you have any questions? Sure.
- We'll have several, but I'll just make it one. Great to meet you both. Well, since you're going to be
- potentially serving on the arts commission and it's an advocacy role and you're focused on different
- types of art and so forth, is there anything particular that is lacking in the community that you see
- as a primary focus or priority?
- Linda, go for it. Let's have Linda go first. This is something that honestly I need to do more research
- about what the current state of things is. My overall impression from, again, returning to the community,
- I was there for 11 years and now I'm coming back after being away, is that I'm constantly just
- overjoyed at how much wonderful art of all kinds there is going on in the Bloomington community. I know
- that there are always challenges in terms of finding spaces, finding support. I know that right now,
- for example, the Lotus Festival has been this enormously
- wonderful resource for the last several decades in the community. And I know that they are facing struggles
- with visas and the kinds of things that some of the things that have made it such a great event really is
- their ability to bring in musicians from all over the world. And that's not something that is going
- smoothly right now. And that's not just that one event, but the relationships between the city and its
- international population at large are currently facing some interesting challenges and it's,
- Obviously, the city is constrained by the framework in which we live. I would not want to cause problems
- where one does not need to have problems, but it is also important to advocate for that continuing
- multicultural richness that the community has represented for so long. That would be what I would say.
- Thank you, Lynn.
- We know those constraints. We're feeling them all the time. Brandy, what do you think? Yeah. So part
- of the practice that I try and embrace is that I am not necessarily an expert on what the folks that
- I work with or work for and work in community with are like what they want. And so I
- When I think about what are gaps within the community, my first response is, have we collected data
- from the, what is the community saying that are the gaps? Because I'm not the expert on peoples in the
- various communities and the various pockets of the communities. I know that I live in Bloomington, but
- I'm not an expert on all of Bloomington. And so I'd really be interested to see what people are identifying
- as their gaps. And I'd like to have those conversations and kind of dive in, because I feel like I'm
- a catalyst to try and figure out how to be
- to make those things come into action because I think community-led and community-driven is recognizing
- and humbling yourself that, yes, I know things and I want to take action, but I don't know what they
- see because they live it every day. And so that's where I would go in terms of the gaps. I would think
- about that because I have my ideas. But something working within a variety of different communities
- has taught me that if I come in with my own ideas and I'm like, let's do this, the community is like,
- that's not important to us.
- Even if I, like I've done this within indigenous communities when I worked in Pine Ridge, South Dakota,
- and I had all these ideas about murdering and mistending indigenous women, and I was going to do all
- these art projects, and we're going to do language, and I came in very excited to do these programs
- that I thought were gaps within the reservation or within Indian education.
- And the community was like that we don't care about this we want to do this or we want to focus and
- the students were like we want to focus on poetry. And so then we were able to do poetry because that's
- what they wanted to do but still talk about a lot of these situations. And so what that has taught me
- and my work within museums and community work has been that
- is to take a pause and say, well, what do you all see? And then me figuring out what are the systems
- in place for me to try and put those places in action or to understand like, okay, we've identified
- if there is a gap like in supporting community artists or maybe artists are saying that they're not
- being paid enough, then what does it look like to create platforms around business development? Because
- perhaps we're not looking at our budgeting appropriately and that artists are not always so taught to
- create budgets or not always taught around like value driven pricing because we also have
- bills to pay and food to be in. And that's, you have to find the balance between that. And so I don't,
- well, I think that there are things that are like, could be missing. When I think about different community
- representation, without knowing what folks want, it just, it doesn't allow my values. Yeah, that's kind
- of how I would answer that is what are folks saying? Are they gaps? And then how can I start thinking
- strategically with
- the other folks on the committee and also thinking about how do we leverage different resources to make
- this come to fruition. Thank you. Yeah. I have a question. If I could remember it. Okay. One of the
- things that the Arts Commission does is they grant funds to community artists who have applied for,
- I think it's up to $2,000 in arts grants. What would you look for
- in applicants when reviewing the applications? Yeah, so I've reviewed a variety of different types of
- applications, especially in terms of targeting for arts and arts and sustainability or arts during the
- midst of the impact of the pandemic. And so typically when I review grants, I look at the format of
- what the grant, like granting initiatives that we've asked them to outline, but I also look to make
- sure their budget is
- written in a way that covers a lot of the costs. Have they thought about sustainable impact? Are they
- paying themselves? And if that's a gap in the space,
- Or is our granting format to where we go back and say, you know, can you revise this? Or if that's not
- the format that we've had, then that maybe is not right now. We provide feedback later on. So when they
- re-apply later, that they can start thinking critically to making sure that they're not only covering
- their supplies, but are they paying their hourly wages at the same time? Because I think sustainability,
- both in terms of them themselves as an artist, but also in relationship to community, is really important.
- Because that means that we're investing in the long term.
- community's health and artists just paying their supplies because they just want that project done.
- I think it's lovely, but it also doesn't help their longevity as an artist and as a community member.
- I think the hustle is not always sustainable for anyone and not sustainable for the health of the community.
- I look at that. I also think it's really important when we think about the narrative, what is the impact?
- When we think about what are we valuing as impact, is it impact quantitative measurements where they're going to
- impact 100 people or is it really thinking about qualitative? Are we thinking about the ways in which
- it's going to inspire the next generation of artists or the way it's going to support
- either support some of the initiatives that we have or that the mayor has for a healthy environment,
- or if it's thinking about underserved communities, or is it going to create spaces to have conversations
- around the housing situation? I think you're trying to think about what is the larger initiatives that
- we have and does that align with what we're thinking about granting? Without knowing that right away,
- it would be hard to link it in, but I think it's how I try and weave the basket, essentially. Thank you.
- Lynn? Yes, this is all that sort of ties in with some of my, really I come to this with as many questions
- as I do answers. I think that what, is it Brandy has said that in an ideal situation, we're able to
- gather together
- artists of different fields who are able to both develop themselves as artists, continue doing their
- art, which again, does require paying your bills and getting fed, but also speaking to different parts
- of the community, some of which are going to be very
- organizations of long standing that have a long tradition of working with the city, others that may
- not. There are certain spaces that the city uses on a very regular basis. I'm sure that there are also
- parts of the city that have less contact with some of these organizations and performances. It would
- be interesting to try and find ways to make more contact with
- parts of the city that might not have had that before. I'm sure I'm not the first person to take a look
- at that kind of question, given the kind of place that Bloomington is. I know that there are a lot of
- people that have these kinds of issues and desires for the direction we want our community to go. In
- terms of how to evaluate grants, honestly, I haven't looked at what is coming into
- with the applications that people are giving. One of my questions though, before looking at those things
- is, how are those things being advertised? Who knows about them ahead of time? Is there a way to make
- sure that things are broadly known before we start collecting the applications in the first place? Exactly.
- how that would be done, whether it's partially through places like the public library or other community
- centers in different parts of town. Those things should be prioritized as well as making sure that the
- artists who are applying and that the committee judges to be
- worth supporting are able to have a budget that sustains them going forward. There's too much of doing
- it for exposure or just to pay for the paper that you're using. We want to help people thrive beyond
- that, as Brady has said. Thank you. Does anyone else have any questions?
- I have a small, just important question, which is confirming both your commitment and availability to
- attend the monthly Arts Commission meetings, which I believe are on Wednesdays, second Wednesdays from
- 5 to 6.30. We also generally let people know that, you know, it may involve some, you know, it says
- five hours per month on the commission page is the estimated time commitments. There is some out of
- meeting time as well. So just confirming availability, commitment, that kind of thing.
- I guess we can check in, Lynn, first with you and then Randy. Second Wednesday of each month, there
- are going to be a few second Wednesdays that I might have to be traveling. But for the most part, that
- sounds very doable. There might be times when I would need to do it remotely, but I
- planning on doing it in person as much as possible. Thank you.
- I would say similarly, I've looked at the bylaws in terms of how many to miss. I do have some travel
- scheduled that is a part of my work related travel, but I don't think that those either fall on the
- second Wednesday or would impact it to where I wouldn't align with any of the bylaws. As long as it's
- on my calendar, because I live on my calendar, which I'm sure that many of us do because it runs my
- life and my dad's life, that I'm perfectly fine with being able to do it.
- I appreciate the fact that you also pivoted to create it, like access points for Zoom. But for the most
- part, I think I can physically do it, similar to what Linus said to you. Great. Thank you. Thank you
- both so much. I think, do you want to do the follow-up?
- So we have one vacancy, one council appointed vacancy in the Arts Commission. I know there's also a
- mayoral vacancy right now. There's both council appointed mayoral appointed seats. We are three council
- members making up a committee that makes recommendations to the full council for appointment. Generally
- those recommendations are adopted.
- We have some lag time between our ability to make that recommendation and the council's ability to take
- it up so that people have time to review applicants themselves. But I would say within the next three
- weeks or so, give or take, you'd expect to hear one way or the other from Deputy Clerk Crossley. And
- if you have questions, of course, you can reach out as well. Sorry, just a quick question. Will it be
- via email or just keep track of my email? Wonderful. And we really appreciate you both expressing interest.
- Thank you. Thank you. Nice to meet you, Lynn. Likewise. Good to meet you. Good to see you both.
- Thank you. Have a good meeting. Good evening. Thank you. Appreciate it. Get out of y'all's hair.
- Sounds good. Thanks for coming in. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thanks for coordinating this.
- Yes. Thank you. Door open? Yes. Yes. Thank you. Have a good night. You too.
- We discussed both. Do we want to talk? Yeah. Let's do it first. Yeah. Let's do it. Thoughts? Can I throw
- out some ideas? Yeah. Sure. First of all, I think that Drew is qualified. He's interested. He's been
- following what's going on. I think he's up to the task. So I think he's a good appointment. Yeah. What
- do we have? Two seats available, is that right?
- I think so. Yeah, that's a couple of them. C2, C4? Yeah. So I would go ahead and nominate them for one.
- OK. Does anybody else have any impressions, or would you rather wait? I'm happy to nominate them. That
- sounds good. And they're different terms. C2 might make more sense, because that turned over at the
- beginning of this year, so it's a longer time remaining. OK, I'll nominate Drew, Heron for
- Historic Preservation Commission, seat C2. Second. Okay. Yeah, that one is C4. Yeah, I was about to
- say that one is up at the end of the year. Oh, I'm sorry. Oops. C4. Yeah. I was like reading that as
- like a January turnover, like a turnover just happened. Second. Yes, second. All right. So we got C4.
- Who seconded it? I'm sorry. OK. OK. So, Rala? Yes. Larry? Yes. Zulik? Yes. OK. Thank you for that. BAC?
- I thought they were both interested and have strong backgrounds. I was especially impressed with Brandy's
- both framework and level of preparation, I guess, with respect to goodness reading and commissioned
- bylaws. That's a rarity. I really liked her approach. Yeah. The only thing that I will say about Lynn
- is that I spoke with Holly about the recommendation, and she said that the person who stepped off of
- the board had a background in music, and so it would be
- filling that gap that was created on the VAC. I was also just a little bit more drawn to Brandy's approach,
- but that is something to keep in mind. The music part is the gap right now. Sorry. No, I was just going
- to say really quick, I'm sorry.
- The mayor's office is also looking at Brandy as well. They are strongly considering her for appointment
- too. Interesting. Well, I liked her archeology background and I thought maybe bringing in, since she
- worked with native cultures, that's a very positive thing, interesting. But yeah, your point, Sydney,
- is very good.
- about we want to make sure that all visual, theater, music, dance, everything is represented. How certain
- are we, Jennifer, that the mayor, they're very strong at branding? Yeah. Very much so because I had
- talked to Julius and he was interested in reaching out to appoint
- I had said you should wait because she's been identified for counsel to interview. Him and I will chat
- tomorrow and I'll let him know that this was a really good interview and that she seems to have a favorable
- rate in between or council members it seems like as a whole. It definitely seems as though it is a for
- sure thing. In fact, he mentioned that she came recommended from somebody else on the commission.
- Okay. Okay. So we could fill both seats, the mayoral and council, essentially with these two candidates.
- Yeah. I don't have any problems with that. What do you think, Matt? I mean, you know, it's true that
- Lynn seemed to be kind of, maybe she was just flustered or something, but she didn't seem to
- be as well-prepared. But.
- I don't want to discount for that. I mean, it happens. Oh, yeah. And people just present differently
- and that's okay too. Sure. But I was going to say, I appreciate staff lies and recommendations. At the
- same time, there are also work within the executive branch and the mayor has an appointment here too.
- There's no reason that because the previous council appointed seat had a music oriented person that
- that seat needs to be the one versus the mayoral seat or whatever.
- I don't really care. It sounds like it's a high likelihood that if we be, like my preference would be
- to appoint Randy and then, or to recommend appointment of Randy. And that's more of a sure thing in
- that sense from where we sit for that candidate. But on the other hand, it sounds like if we make that
- recommendation, we can even do so formally to the mayor's office as well and appointed Lynn instead.
- That basically the recommendation we have, it would probably go through, but.
- Yeah. In other words, Matt, we would recommend to the mayor that Brandi be appointed? Yeah. I think
- we've done that before and we can even do so formally if we want. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Do we need a motion
- for that recommendation, Jennifer, or can we just informally say- No. Yeah, you can just simply say
- it and that should be fine. Great. Yeah. Is that the route we want to take, Ben?
- I'm fine with that. I do feel neutral. If you guys have strong feelings one way or another.
- I don't either. No. Can I get a motion? Well, the motion then would be to appoint Lynn Hooker to seat
- C3, the Arts Commission. Second. Okay. I'll vote yes. Okay. We got Zootleak.
- That's wonderful. I was waiting for the roll. Yeah. So Zuley? Yes. Okay. Clarity? Yes. And Rollo? Yes.
- Okay. Fabulous. We have five minutes till council. So is there anything else that we need to discuss
- urgently? Not urgent. You do have one more that you just need to appoint.
- Actually two, because one, there's an appointment that just came or a vacancy that just came up on the
- Commission of Sustainability has somebody, John Eldon resigned. You got a little bit because that one
- has to wait until 15 days after having the notice out before you can do anything to appoint to that
- seat. You got a little bit of time, but I just wanted to let you all know that that is one that is
- now seat and other than that status of children and youth is the other yes yes um so you fulfill hbc
- arts um and the children and youth is another one so just look for an email and we'll kind of get together
- again and get another meeting schedule for that thank you awesome i will adjourn this meeting dave see
- you in three see you later thank you all thank you thanks
- Pass on.