It is 5.45, so I'm going to call this meeting to order, and we can start with attendance. My name is
Sydney Zuluk. I represent Bloomington City Council District 6. I am here. Matt Flair, do you have a
large representative on the council? Willow, District 4, City Council. I said something else. Jennifer Crossley.
I'm Drew Herron. I'm a real estate agent at Remax Plain Properties here in town, and I'm here to interview
for the Historic Preservation Commission. I'll come and thank you for being here. I'll open the floor
to my colleagues on a moment. Questions? Sure. Yeah. Thanks so much, Drew, for your interest in your
application for the Historic Preservation Commission. Maybe we can start by just telling us a little
bit more in your own words about what interests you about the commission while you decided to apply. Yeah.
I'll kind of give you a little background about myself a little bit. So I've been in real estate for
about three years now. I'm getting closer to four and I've been brought into the new construction side
of everything. So I feel like I've got a really good base on new construction planning and everything
of that sort, but that I'm lacking kind of the extra knowledge that would go into the normal historic
side of everything. So I decided to kind of diversify my knowledge, expand my knowledge as well.
both sides of everything. That way I can be kind of a well-rounded agent myself for my business, but
also get a better understanding of the community that we have here. There's a lot of different historic
areas, and it's kind of nice to have communities still in touch with that. It seems like the state is
as well from some of the research I've been doing that got different layers of historic commissions,
or not commissions, but zoning here. Thank you. My turn? Yes.
Okay. Great to meet you, Mr. Heron. Have you attended any historic preservation meetings either virtually
or live? I haven't had a chance to be one live, but I did get to watch a portion of the last meeting
that was going on. I got a base understanding of the process that is done during a commission meeting.
I had to hear a lot about a retaining wall and about a 30-minute section of that. Give me a
good understanding of what to expect and also how we're helping the community either stay in line with
the historic designations that are out there for certain homes and how to maintain that as well. Well,
good. I noticed their agenda, they had a lot on their agenda.
They had a lot of- That was a two-hour and 30-minute meeting. I didn't quite get through all of it,
but I got a good understanding from there. Yeah. Everything from blowing solar panels to a certain gate
and so forth. Yeah. But there are some major ones like demolition delay. Yeah. That's probably one of
the most important things that was powers that were given to the commission was
You know the delay in a demolition to evaluate the the the home and and so forth. Could could you give
us a little feel for like what what would you be considering Delay process to two of the things that
kind of stuck out. I mean, it's still kind of lies demolition on
not quite a full size home itself, but one of them was a garage that was built on the side of a property
that was in disarray. It was really falling apart and the petitioner came in asking for it to be demolished
and proposed a plan and now to reutilize that space. And part of the reason that she was wanting to
get the demolition done is because there were college students running around jumping on top of it and
then putting themselves at risk. So putting the risk on the property owners and also the college students
themselves.
having the power to give that demolition process, but then also she proposed inside her request to then
use the same styling of limestone that was used to rehabilitate that small section. How they were going
to do it will kind of determine the overall look, whether that's, you know, having a retaining wall
and filling in that land, just extend the land overall. And then, then there was a question about,
you know, parking, which is now here and over there, but
The safety part of it is what a big part of what I enjoyed about that. So that was a big part of something
I took out of that. And the next one was it was filling in a pool. So an older lady, she had a pool
for about 40 years and her kids are gone, her husband's gone, and she was just kind of there by herself.
And this pool is falling apart, leaking, and it's just not something that she can utilize anymore. And
it was also becoming a safety hazard for her because she can't swim. She's a walker.
issue would rather have it filled in and utilizes more of a green space rather than an empty pool in
her backyard is kind of more of a hazard. Things of that nature spoke a lot to me because it was more
of a safety concern for people. In terms of demolition of a full home, it would just come down to how
much and disarray is the home. Is it too much of a safety hazard to be rebuilt from where it's at? Is
the foundation caving in because
If the foundation's already a huge issue, then you're gonna have a hard time keeping the main part of
the structure in good shape until that's taken care of. And I've worked with another agent in town.
I bought a home just off of High Street where she had to, it was a historic home, but what they did
was that they tore apart, tore down the home, but then preserved
portions of the foundation that were still in good shape. That way they can still keep the integrity
of the historic aspect of that home, while also bringing a new home to the community that was in much
better shape. Because before it was, as she called it, a cesspool filled with water on the corner of
High Street, which as Pastor Powers, it's not a good look, but now it's being utilized properly. Well,
you've exhibited quite a lot of knowledge of that.
particular meeting and I appreciate that. Could I just ask one more follow-up just to ask? The deliberations
are trying to walk a line between retaining the character of historic structures and being too stringent
in terms of use or cost. Do you feel you
can walk that, can, you know, sort of balance those two poles? Yeah, understanding the balance between
having a, preserving the historic nature of the site while also being as cost-efficient on the petitioner
in question is something that I would, I would like to make it a point for myself, because the last
thing I don't want to do is go out of my way to make it even harder for someone to make them
cost of even more on a project, I want to be able to make sure it's fair and also in line with the historic
nature of the area. Great. Thank you. I appreciate your answers. I just have one more question and that
is, do you anticipate any confidence and interest given your line of work? If you do, how would you
approach that? When it comes to conflict of interest,
if at all possible, just recuse myself, especially if it's regarding a family member. Because obviously,
there's some bias there. So obviously, recusing myself is the easiest portion. And then obviously, I
can still be a form of insight for people and a resource for people to utilize. But taking myself out
of certain situations, whether that's involving myself with someone directly in my office, with family
member, then it's probably just recuse myself. That's great. Thank you.
Anyone else have any questions? Yeah. A couple of things, just more logistical in nature. When we're
appointing commissions, we always want to make sure folks are generally available to attend meetings
with relatively rare conflicts. Also, while virtual attendances can be relied upon also in exceptional
circumstances, all meetings have to have a majority in person. Just wanted to check in on your ability
to attend those bi-weekly Thursday evening, five to seven commission meetings.
The good thing about my job is that it is very flexible and I can create my own schedule. As long as
I can keep my clients I work with in line with the schedule that I don't want to focus on and being
a part of these commissions or any other committees I want to be a part on. My flexibility makes it
easier to be a part of these things. Then obviously, I have to be careful with my five-month old a little
bit because sometimes kids are unpredictable in terms of health. That'd be my only potential restriction.
And then just another note for your information that there are both mayoral appointments and council
appointments to the commission and the council appointments, correct me if I'm wrong, but they're non-voting.
Correct. Correct. So we have seen a fair number of occasions where folks are elevated from a non-voting
council appointment to a mayoral appointment and everybody participates equally with the exception of
voting on proposals or petitions. So just wanted to make sure you're aware of that as well.
So you're saying that in a role that I would be potentially filling in as a non-voting role, but I would
still give some insight and some clarification on how some things could be taken advantage of. And then
there's a possibility now or in the future to be elevated to a voting portion. That's right. That's
more than likely. OK, gotcha. Dave, more questions, sir? No, I'm satisfied. Thanks. Thank you for coming
and sharing with us.
Thank you very much for your time. I'll have one follow-up maybe kind of related to what Councilmember
Morales was sharing, which is just that we have a lot of guidance actually about how these decisions
should be made with it. So we have city code and other historic districts that neighborhoods or districts
adopt that should guide the decision-making and there are balancing things like public safety and cost
and feasibility. So all that's kind of contained within a framework that is part of
formal city policy, so that's kind of what's meant to guide the decision making. Of course, there is
judgment involved, so you are balancing and weighing those things, but I just wanted to also clarify
that it's not abstract, it's quite specific. Yeah, it's quite specific, and then it also applies to
in line with the planning codes as well, because then you're also intertwined, so you have restrictions
on historic levels and then planning levels as well, so they're always kind of coming along some way.
Yeah, I just wanted to, I guess, check in with you. Do you think your skill set and interests are well-suited
to that type of
process. Yeah, my interests are definitely in line with that and just gaining a better understanding
on both sides of everything. Obviously, my skill set for improvement, at least that's a goal of mine
to continuously educate myself and attend regular meetings to make sure I'm still following up with
some changes that are going on. I know there were some recent changes in what's it called, zoning. By
one point, we went from like 43 down to 17 or whatever the numbers were. So trying to stay in line with
that and understand what's going on is more in line.
Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Just so you know, we are having a co-hosted meeting
with the HBC on October 15th for like a deliberation on Bloomington Historic Code and how we might be
able to change it so that it works for our people. So you are more than welcome to come.
I did that as well. It's on Wednesday, October 15th at 6.30. Is that posted on your guys' calendar?
Yes. Perfect. I will look that up as well. Great. Thank you so much. I'm so lovely to meet you.
I'm excited. Great to meet you, virtual handshake. You as well. Yeah. I was going to share it with the
next staff. Go ahead. Just that we're a committee of the council.
that makes recommendations to the council for appointments. We also have some other interviews for the
Arts Commission tonight, then we'll deliberate as a committee, make any recommendations on appointments,
Jennifer coordinates those with the clerk's office and council, and it usually takes a few weeks before
those actually appear on our agenda for a formal vote by the council who is the appointed entity. You
can always check in with Clerk Crossley if you have questions.
Uh, but you could expect to hear from us. I would say that's two to three weeks of time. I won't bother
you too much. You're totally fine. All good. And that is all. Awesome. Well, thank you guys for your
time. I really appreciate it. It's nice meeting you as well. Hi. Hello. Welcome in. Welcome. I'm in
the right spot. Are you Brandy? I am. Yes. Okay.
Where would you like me to sit? Wherever you would like to sit. Here you can also see our third colleague
who is on screen. Yes, it has to be open. Hi. Hi. Hello. Thank you. Thanks for the invite. Is everybody
here? Welcome both of you. Thank you so much for being here. We are going to go ahead and get started
with just some questions.
Would you like to start it? Sure. Great to meet you both. I'm Matt Flaherty. I'm an at-large city council
member, one of the three committee members here responsible for making recommendations to the Arts Commission
for appointments to the Arts Commission. Maybe we just start with an introduction. For each question,
maybe I suggest that we alternate who goes first to keep it fair, in a sense. Maybe, Randy, we can start
with you in the room for this first one, which is just maybe tell us a little bit about yourself and
what got you interested in serving on the Arts Commission. Thanks.
My name is Brandy McDonald, my pronouns are she, her. I currently work as the executive director at
the Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology.
I am deeply passionate about supporting arts within the community. I think it's the driving force. From
a lot of the work that I do within museums, even though I'm from cultural anthropology, art is an underlying
factor, especially looking at the foundations for building creative capital and especially when I think
about a lot of communities that are either underserved or rural communities and many communities that
I've worked with within Indigenous communities.
Artists are the heartbeat of ensuring that cultural revitalization and traditions are there. They're
also typically the economic drivers and support systems of most of the families with a lot of the communities
I work. And so seeing and coming here in Bloomington and the ways in which that the community connects
to the artists and the way that art and just I think that the community cares about each other and how
art is that connecting factor. And the way that I've seen the Arts Commission support those
initiatives and build a stronger foundation for variety of different touch points for art, I think it's
just fantastic. And I want to be a part of that. I want to be able to leverage the work that I've done
with creating these points of connection, supporting creative capital and figuring out how I can be
a best service to the community that I now belong to. Thank you. Oh, I don't know. Nice. She's here.
She just has her camera turned off. There's a message in the chat. There we are. Hi. Hi. I'm sorry.
I'm a little bit trying to figure out what the procedure is. My name is Lynn Hooker. I have just rejoined
the Bloomington community. I was here for a time and left in 2015 and I'm returning.
come to this application as a music scholar. I've been involved in music for my whole life. One of the
wonderful things about the Bloomington community is how richly as the previous candidate who I should
have written down your name, just spoke about the way that the arts bring people together and
and specifically how music is such an important thing for creating opportunities for social interaction,
for people to participate together, as well as for people to appreciate the wonderful artists that come
together in Bloomington of all kinds of genres of music.
as well as people who have been resident in the region for a long time, supporting the synergies that
the arts and especially music, given that that's my area of expertise, bring to the community seems
like a really important thing that I've just now really
become more aware of what the commission can do for that. And I am interested in being a part of it
and seeing what I can contribute in terms of my knowledge and bringing together other aspects, other
different kinds of music and arts and
the perspectives that I bring from having lived both in Bloomington and other parts of the state and
finding out what the Arts Commission can do to leverage the resources of the city to keep that great
energy going. Thank you. Dave, do you have any questions? Sure.
We'll have several, but I'll just make it one. Great to meet you both. Well, since you're going to be
potentially serving on the arts commission and it's an advocacy role and you're focused on different
types of art and so forth, is there anything particular that is lacking in the community that you see
as a primary focus or priority?
Linda, go for it. Let's have Linda go first. This is something that honestly I need to do more research
about what the current state of things is. My overall impression from, again, returning to the community,
I was there for 11 years and now I'm coming back after being away, is that I'm constantly just
overjoyed at how much wonderful art of all kinds there is going on in the Bloomington community. I know
that there are always challenges in terms of finding spaces, finding support. I know that right now,
for example, the Lotus Festival has been this enormously
wonderful resource for the last several decades in the community. And I know that they are facing struggles
with visas and the kinds of things that some of the things that have made it such a great event really is
their ability to bring in musicians from all over the world. And that's not something that is going
smoothly right now. And that's not just that one event, but the relationships between the city and its
international population at large are currently facing some interesting challenges and it's,
Obviously, the city is constrained by the framework in which we live. I would not want to cause problems
where one does not need to have problems, but it is also important to advocate for that continuing
multicultural richness that the community has represented for so long. That would be what I would say.
Thank you, Lynn.
We know those constraints. We're feeling them all the time. Brandy, what do you think? Yeah. So part
of the practice that I try and embrace is that I am not necessarily an expert on what the folks that
I work with or work for and work in community with are like what they want. And so I
When I think about what are gaps within the community, my first response is, have we collected data
from the, what is the community saying that are the gaps? Because I'm not the expert on peoples in the
various communities and the various pockets of the communities. I know that I live in Bloomington, but
I'm not an expert on all of Bloomington. And so I'd really be interested to see what people are identifying
as their gaps. And I'd like to have those conversations and kind of dive in, because I feel like I'm
a catalyst to try and figure out how to be
to make those things come into action because I think community-led and community-driven is recognizing
and humbling yourself that, yes, I know things and I want to take action, but I don't know what they
see because they live it every day. And so that's where I would go in terms of the gaps. I would think
about that because I have my ideas. But something working within a variety of different communities
has taught me that if I come in with my own ideas and I'm like, let's do this, the community is like,
that's not important to us.
Even if I, like I've done this within indigenous communities when I worked in Pine Ridge, South Dakota,
and I had all these ideas about murdering and mistending indigenous women, and I was going to do all
these art projects, and we're going to do language, and I came in very excited to do these programs
that I thought were gaps within the reservation or within Indian education.
And the community was like that we don't care about this we want to do this or we want to focus and
the students were like we want to focus on poetry. And so then we were able to do poetry because that's
what they wanted to do but still talk about a lot of these situations. And so what that has taught me
and my work within museums and community work has been that
is to take a pause and say, well, what do you all see? And then me figuring out what are the systems
in place for me to try and put those places in action or to understand like, okay, we've identified
if there is a gap like in supporting community artists or maybe artists are saying that they're not
being paid enough, then what does it look like to create platforms around business development? Because
perhaps we're not looking at our budgeting appropriately and that artists are not always so taught to
create budgets or not always taught around like value driven pricing because we also have
bills to pay and food to be in. And that's, you have to find the balance between that. And so I don't,
well, I think that there are things that are like, could be missing. When I think about different community
representation, without knowing what folks want, it just, it doesn't allow my values. Yeah, that's kind
of how I would answer that is what are folks saying? Are they gaps? And then how can I start thinking
strategically with
the other folks on the committee and also thinking about how do we leverage different resources to make
this come to fruition. Thank you. Yeah. I have a question. If I could remember it. Okay. One of the
things that the Arts Commission does is they grant funds to community artists who have applied for,
I think it's up to $2,000 in arts grants. What would you look for
in applicants when reviewing the applications? Yeah, so I've reviewed a variety of different types of
applications, especially in terms of targeting for arts and arts and sustainability or arts during the
midst of the impact of the pandemic. And so typically when I review grants, I look at the format of
what the grant, like granting initiatives that we've asked them to outline, but I also look to make
sure their budget is
written in a way that covers a lot of the costs. Have they thought about sustainable impact? Are they
paying themselves? And if that's a gap in the space,
Or is our granting format to where we go back and say, you know, can you revise this? Or if that's not
the format that we've had, then that maybe is not right now. We provide feedback later on. So when they
re-apply later, that they can start thinking critically to making sure that they're not only covering
their supplies, but are they paying their hourly wages at the same time? Because I think sustainability,
both in terms of them themselves as an artist, but also in relationship to community, is really important.
Because that means that we're investing in the long term.
community's health and artists just paying their supplies because they just want that project done.
I think it's lovely, but it also doesn't help their longevity as an artist and as a community member.
I think the hustle is not always sustainable for anyone and not sustainable for the health of the community.
I look at that. I also think it's really important when we think about the narrative, what is the impact?
When we think about what are we valuing as impact, is it impact quantitative measurements where they're going to
impact 100 people or is it really thinking about qualitative? Are we thinking about the ways in which
it's going to inspire the next generation of artists or the way it's going to support
either support some of the initiatives that we have or that the mayor has for a healthy environment,
or if it's thinking about underserved communities, or is it going to create spaces to have conversations
around the housing situation? I think you're trying to think about what is the larger initiatives that
we have and does that align with what we're thinking about granting? Without knowing that right away,
it would be hard to link it in, but I think it's how I try and weave the basket, essentially. Thank you.
Lynn? Yes, this is all that sort of ties in with some of my, really I come to this with as many questions
as I do answers. I think that what, is it Brandy has said that in an ideal situation, we're able to
gather together
artists of different fields who are able to both develop themselves as artists, continue doing their
art, which again, does require paying your bills and getting fed, but also speaking to different parts
of the community, some of which are going to be very
organizations of long standing that have a long tradition of working with the city, others that may
not. There are certain spaces that the city uses on a very regular basis. I'm sure that there are also
parts of the city that have less contact with some of these organizations and performances. It would
be interesting to try and find ways to make more contact with
parts of the city that might not have had that before. I'm sure I'm not the first person to take a look
at that kind of question, given the kind of place that Bloomington is. I know that there are a lot of
people that have these kinds of issues and desires for the direction we want our community to go. In
terms of how to evaluate grants, honestly, I haven't looked at what is coming into
with the applications that people are giving. One of my questions though, before looking at those things
is, how are those things being advertised? Who knows about them ahead of time? Is there a way to make
sure that things are broadly known before we start collecting the applications in the first place? Exactly.
how that would be done, whether it's partially through places like the public library or other community
centers in different parts of town. Those things should be prioritized as well as making sure that the
artists who are applying and that the committee judges to be
worth supporting are able to have a budget that sustains them going forward. There's too much of doing
it for exposure or just to pay for the paper that you're using. We want to help people thrive beyond
that, as Brady has said. Thank you. Does anyone else have any questions?
I have a small, just important question, which is confirming both your commitment and availability to
attend the monthly Arts Commission meetings, which I believe are on Wednesdays, second Wednesdays from
5 to 6.30. We also generally let people know that, you know, it may involve some, you know, it says
five hours per month on the commission page is the estimated time commitments. There is some out of
meeting time as well. So just confirming availability, commitment, that kind of thing.
I guess we can check in, Lynn, first with you and then Randy. Second Wednesday of each month, there
are going to be a few second Wednesdays that I might have to be traveling. But for the most part, that
sounds very doable. There might be times when I would need to do it remotely, but I
planning on doing it in person as much as possible. Thank you.
I would say similarly, I've looked at the bylaws in terms of how many to miss. I do have some travel
scheduled that is a part of my work related travel, but I don't think that those either fall on the
second Wednesday or would impact it to where I wouldn't align with any of the bylaws. As long as it's
on my calendar, because I live on my calendar, which I'm sure that many of us do because it runs my
life and my dad's life, that I'm perfectly fine with being able to do it.
I appreciate the fact that you also pivoted to create it, like access points for Zoom. But for the most
part, I think I can physically do it, similar to what Linus said to you. Great. Thank you. Thank you
both so much. I think, do you want to do the follow-up?
So we have one vacancy, one council appointed vacancy in the Arts Commission. I know there's also a
mayoral vacancy right now. There's both council appointed mayoral appointed seats. We are three council
members making up a committee that makes recommendations to the full council for appointment. Generally
those recommendations are adopted.
We have some lag time between our ability to make that recommendation and the council's ability to take
it up so that people have time to review applicants themselves. But I would say within the next three
weeks or so, give or take, you'd expect to hear one way or the other from Deputy Clerk Crossley. And
if you have questions, of course, you can reach out as well. Sorry, just a quick question. Will it be
via email or just keep track of my email? Wonderful. And we really appreciate you both expressing interest.
Thank you. Thank you. Nice to meet you, Lynn. Likewise. Good to meet you. Good to see you both.
Thank you. Have a good meeting. Good evening. Thank you. Appreciate it. Get out of y'all's hair.
Sounds good. Thanks for coming in. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thanks for coordinating this.
Yes. Thank you. Door open? Yes. Yes. Thank you. Have a good night. You too.
We discussed both. Do we want to talk? Yeah. Let's do it first. Yeah. Let's do it. Thoughts? Can I throw
out some ideas? Yeah. Sure. First of all, I think that Drew is qualified. He's interested. He's been
following what's going on. I think he's up to the task. So I think he's a good appointment. Yeah. What
do we have? Two seats available, is that right?
I think so. Yeah, that's a couple of them. C2, C4? Yeah. So I would go ahead and nominate them for one.
OK. Does anybody else have any impressions, or would you rather wait? I'm happy to nominate them. That
sounds good. And they're different terms. C2 might make more sense, because that turned over at the
beginning of this year, so it's a longer time remaining. OK, I'll nominate Drew, Heron for
Historic Preservation Commission, seat C2. Second. Okay. Yeah, that one is C4. Yeah, I was about to
say that one is up at the end of the year. Oh, I'm sorry. Oops. C4. Yeah. I was like reading that as
like a January turnover, like a turnover just happened. Second. Yes, second. All right. So we got C4.
Who seconded it? I'm sorry. OK. OK. So, Rala? Yes. Larry? Yes. Zulik? Yes. OK. Thank you for that. BAC?
I thought they were both interested and have strong backgrounds. I was especially impressed with Brandy's
both framework and level of preparation, I guess, with respect to goodness reading and commissioned
bylaws. That's a rarity. I really liked her approach. Yeah. The only thing that I will say about Lynn
is that I spoke with Holly about the recommendation, and she said that the person who stepped off of
the board had a background in music, and so it would be
filling that gap that was created on the VAC. I was also just a little bit more drawn to Brandy's approach,
but that is something to keep in mind. The music part is the gap right now. Sorry. No, I was just going
to say really quick, I'm sorry.
The mayor's office is also looking at Brandy as well. They are strongly considering her for appointment
too. Interesting. Well, I liked her archeology background and I thought maybe bringing in, since she
worked with native cultures, that's a very positive thing, interesting. But yeah, your point, Sydney,
is very good.
about we want to make sure that all visual, theater, music, dance, everything is represented. How certain
are we, Jennifer, that the mayor, they're very strong at branding? Yeah. Very much so because I had
talked to Julius and he was interested in reaching out to appoint
I had said you should wait because she's been identified for counsel to interview. Him and I will chat
tomorrow and I'll let him know that this was a really good interview and that she seems to have a favorable
rate in between or council members it seems like as a whole. It definitely seems as though it is a for
sure thing. In fact, he mentioned that she came recommended from somebody else on the commission.
Okay. Okay. So we could fill both seats, the mayoral and council, essentially with these two candidates.
Yeah. I don't have any problems with that. What do you think, Matt? I mean, you know, it's true that
Lynn seemed to be kind of, maybe she was just flustered or something, but she didn't seem to
be as well-prepared. But.
I don't want to discount for that. I mean, it happens. Oh, yeah. And people just present differently
and that's okay too. Sure. But I was going to say, I appreciate staff lies and recommendations. At the
same time, there are also work within the executive branch and the mayor has an appointment here too.
There's no reason that because the previous council appointed seat had a music oriented person that
that seat needs to be the one versus the mayoral seat or whatever.
I don't really care. It sounds like it's a high likelihood that if we be, like my preference would be
to appoint Randy and then, or to recommend appointment of Randy. And that's more of a sure thing in
that sense from where we sit for that candidate. But on the other hand, it sounds like if we make that
recommendation, we can even do so formally to the mayor's office as well and appointed Lynn instead.
That basically the recommendation we have, it would probably go through, but.
Yeah. In other words, Matt, we would recommend to the mayor that Brandi be appointed? Yeah. I think
we've done that before and we can even do so formally if we want. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Do we need a motion
for that recommendation, Jennifer, or can we just informally say- No. Yeah, you can just simply say
it and that should be fine. Great. Yeah. Is that the route we want to take, Ben?
I'm fine with that. I do feel neutral. If you guys have strong feelings one way or another.
I don't either. No. Can I get a motion? Well, the motion then would be to appoint Lynn Hooker to seat
C3, the Arts Commission. Second. Okay. I'll vote yes. Okay. We got Zootleak.
That's wonderful. I was waiting for the roll. Yeah. So Zuley? Yes. Okay. Clarity? Yes. And Rollo? Yes.
Okay. Fabulous. We have five minutes till council. So is there anything else that we need to discuss
urgently? Not urgent. You do have one more that you just need to appoint.
Actually two, because one, there's an appointment that just came or a vacancy that just came up on the
Commission of Sustainability has somebody, John Eldon resigned. You got a little bit because that one
has to wait until 15 days after having the notice out before you can do anything to appoint to that
seat. You got a little bit of time, but I just wanted to let you all know that that is one that is
now seat and other than that status of children and youth is the other yes yes um so you fulfill hbc
arts um and the children and youth is another one so just look for an email and we'll kind of get together
again and get another meeting schedule for that thank you awesome i will adjourn this meeting dave see
you in three see you later thank you all thank you thanks
Pass on.