- I am going to call this meeting to order and we'll just do a quick attendance. So I am the chair of
- this committee and my name is Sydney Zolik. I represent the downtown district, which is district six.
- Matt, Larry and I are represented on the council. Go ahead. That's okay. I'm Jennifer from the clerk's
- office. And I'm Dave Ferrello, council district four.
- I just forgot. Hello, and then we have Triana and Joseph with us. Can you hear us okay, Joseph? Oh,
- yeah. Hi, everyone. Hello. So I'll just, the way that we're going to do this interview is each of us
- are going to ask a question or two, and we're going to start with a different person each time so that
- No one is put on the spot too much. Um, and I guess I'll start with my colleagues. Oh, sure. Yeah. Time
- to start. Uh, maybe, so we have your applications with a little bit of information about you and you're
- interested in serving in the city's commission on status of children and youth. Could you tell us a
- bit more about, uh, your interest and why you decided to apply? And we could start with Trayana here
- in the room for the first round and then alternate thereafter. Yeah. So I'm interested in.
- serving on this commission because of my passion for helping others and for my passion of, I guess,
- the children in Bloomington. I work
- As a I'm a mentor of the first year experiences. So I work with people who aren't exactly at the youth
- level anymore. But however, they are at the level of transitioning into adulthood. So I do know like
- things about being a youth specifically. For me, I do look for volunteer positions around Bloomington.
- I do have a lot of volunteer hours and I thought this would be a really good place for me to volunteer at.
- a little bit about my background. I'm also from Indianapolis, Indiana, and I went to Pike High School.
- Thank you. Joseph? Same question, go ahead. I'm sorry, could you please repeat the question? Yeah,
- no problem. Just a bit more about your interest and what made you want to serve on the commission. Yeah,
- so I'm interested in the commission because of its mission and it also aligns with my lived experience
- and the work that I kind of
- do in Bloomington. So when I first arrived here in Bloomington as a refugee, I kind of struggled with
- orientation, lack of resources in the MCCSC school system. And I kind of saw how if a young person,
- if they're not given a voice, then they can kind of be discouraged and fall through the cracks and stuff.
- And the commission's purpose is to empower
- empower and nurture every youth in Bloomington. So I kind of want to bring my perspective to make sure
- that when policies and things like that are being made, I want to make sure that immigrant and refugee
- students are also being, you know, thought into consideration when decisions like that are being made.
- So. Excellent. Thank you.
- the turnover today. Oh, sure. Thank you for those answers. Joseph, this is a segue from what you were
- referring to, and that is, are there particular problems, issues, or challenges for children in Bloomington
- that you would focus on? I mean, it might not just be limited to one, but does anything come to mind?
- Should we start with Joseph this time? Yeah.
- So I guess this would be more of what MCCSE can do, but especially from my personal experience, when
- I first came to the States as a sophomore and enrolled at Bloomington High School South, there wasn't
- like any resources or like didn't sit down with me to kind of go over like how the US school system
- works, like what social events like prom or homecoming.
- and such things like that, or what GPAs are, or what honors AP classes are, or even how to apply to
- colleges, and the scholarships out there that are giving full right to very talented young individuals
- who are undocumented and also immigrant and refugee students. So I guess that would be one of the things
- that I can think of right now,
- either MCCIC or also the commission can also, you know, can work towards building these resources for
- that community, yeah. Great, thank you. I would focus on equity, leveling the playing grounds for students
- within Bloomington specifically. I feel like sometimes I, well, I volunteer with this,
- community of individuals who have disabilities as well. So I feel like leveling the playground for them
- specifically. I know when I talk to a lot of them, they talk about how they have such dreams and passions,
- but however, sometimes they're missed because just because of the simple fact that they have
- these disabilities as well. So I would focus on equity for that community and for all the students.
- Thank you. I have a question that's in a similar vein.
- a little bit different. So it's a two-part question and that is what do you think is the most important
- thing to keep in mind when making recommendations to organizations to support healthy child development
- and what skills do you think that you have that would help you in accomplishing that goal? Okay so repeat
- the first one. Yes absolutely. What do you think
- Someone should take into consideration when making a recommendation to organizations that support healthy
- childhood development. A lot of times,
- So from what I heard from your answer as well, so a lot of times we're learning about in social work
- right now, the way that a lot of these recommendations are Western centric and they focus on the Western
- population more than they focused on the people who are minorities as well. Like there are a lot of
- different backgrounds that are taken into consideration when these choices are made. So I would say
- they need to keep in mind that everybody isn't raised the same, everybody doesn't have the same beliefs
- as well. So it's bringing a more holistic
- recommendation based when recommend, when recommend, sorry. To these communities as well, like rather
- like you can recommend something that is good for I guess the whole but however you need to take into
- account those minorities and those people who aren't playing on the same level grounds as well. Is that
- a question please? Yes, absolutely.
- What skills do you have that would help you in that? The skills that I have in this is I study social
- work. So I have a very wholesome idea of, I guess, what the disadvantage is, like, compensate. So I
- feel like those are skills that I have within that. And I also continue learning, like, outside of my
- curriculum. Like, I like to expose myself to different populations and different things as well. So
- outside of what
- experience I have and outside of what the schools are teaching me, I'll also seek to have different
- understandings of different people's lives. Thank you. Joseph, go ahead. I'm sorry, could you please
- repeat that? Yes, absolutely. It was a long question. What do you think is important to keep in mind
- when making recommendations to organizations that support childhood development? And what skills do
- you have that would help you
- accomplished that? I think for the first question to also kind of go over what has already been said
- but I think it's also very important is representation of every voice that you know let's say they're
- making a specific decision about something in that line then we could we should like look at that line
- and see what youth are being affected and then gain their
- first-hand personal perspective. And another thing is also getting an expert's perspective on how decisions
- should be handled. So maybe a professor who is an expert in that field. And what was the second question?
- I'm sorry. What skills do you have that would help you do that? Oh, so I would say
- very involved in my own community. I serve as the MCCSE Superintendents Youth Advisory Board. So I kind
- of have the skills to get everyone's perspective and also get quote unquote data. It's not data, but
- talking to students and see what their problems are or what issues they're facing. I also am a part
- of Monroe County Youth Council, so that
- has also given me experiences and skills that will, I think, help me with working with the youth. Yeah.
- Thank you. OK. Does anyone else have any content questions before we go to the logistical? I was going
- to move into logistical. Oh, I know. Sorry. Which is just a bit more about the commissions and your
- ability to participate and attend.
- This commission meets once a month, I believe it's the third Tuesday of the month at 5.30 p.m. There's
- sometimes a little bit of work outside of the commission meetings themselves as well, maybe a few hours
- a month. And while occasionally a remote attendance option is permitted, in general, we need people
- to be in person and be able to regularly attend so we can have a quorum and the commissions can conduct
- their business, all of that, which is sometimes a challenge. And so I wanted to confirm with both of
- you if you
- Are there, well, regularly at Tuesdays at 5.30, if you anticipate any challenges or problems in your
- own schedule in terms of being able to consistently attend meetings and participate? So actually, Joseph,
- to you first, any anticipated challenges in being able to actively attend and participate?
- I have a question. So when does the work actually start? So we will be
- I believe that we have a couple regular sessions left in which we can actually make the appointment
- before the end of the year. I believe we should be voting on this on December 3rd as a full council.
- And so Jennifer, our lovely deputy clerk, will be sending everyone an email in the few days after. At
- that point in time, the work would begin.
- Given that it will be December, I'm going to guess there will be a little bit of a lull period, just
- because a lot of the boards and commissions meet less during the holiday season. So I would expect to
- really start the bulk of the work in January. Oh, yeah, I asked that question because right now I'm
- a senior at the Academy.
- Right now I'm applying to colleges and stuff and everything is due by December 31st. So before January.
- So that would give me a lot more flexibility. And also I am in the MCCSE online curriculum. So my scheduling
- is a bit more flexible and yeah, much more flexible. By the bill. Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you.
- Yeah. I'll just wrap it up with next steps. I know that I said a little bit earlier, but once the two
- of you leave, we'll have a small deliberation session and make a recommendation to the council to be
- approved by the full body at which point the appointment will go through. The whole process takes about
- two to three weeks, like I said, and regardless of
- what the answer is you will hear from Deputy Claire Crossley. So I would expect first week, first two
- weeks of December, you should have an answer. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you both so much. Thank you. Could
- I ask one more question? Jennifer, is this appointment for two years? Yes. This doesn't necessarily
- disqualify you, but to what extent could you serve that term?
- of two years. I mean, are you looking to, you know, Joseph, you're looking to apply to colleges, so
- you may be leaving. What's your schedule looking like in terms of the horizon of two years? So I turn
- the book first? Yeah. I will be only 10th for the next two years. So you'll be in Bloomington. Okay.
- I'll be available again. All right. And Joseph, are you, is it sort of uncertain right now about your
- Um, I am talking with my parents, but it seems like the decision is not made, but 90%. It's sure that
- I'll be going, going to IU. So, and this seat is for, um, up through.
- January 31st of 2026. So it is not technically a full two-year term. It's actually almost over. It's
- a vacant two-year term. What we would probably do almost immediately re-appoint. Yes. It would be like
- a two-year and one-month term. Okay. Thank you both so much for your interest. We really appreciate
- meeting you. Thank you, Joseph. Thank you. Bye. Have a good night. Thank you.
- Thank you so much. Nice to meet you all. And do you know how to get out of here? I actually don't think
- I do, but I don't think I always do. Thank you. I'm not doing that. No, there's no question. Great to
- meet you. Thank you. I'm going to see you later. Bye. Nice to meet you.
- Well, next up we have Zachary and this bird because I think Zachary might be in the hallway. Um, I haven't
- heard from Chris. So he's going to show up in person. Okay.
- Next interview begins at 6 10. Okay. Do we want to discuss real quick? Sounds like both will generally
- be here. So, and are generally able to, um, display actively. They're both pretty great. To toss up
- for me. Okay. In that case, let's think about.
- maybe the perspectives that are already on the commission. You can say I know much about the mayoral
- appointments. Our appointments are Fred Schick, Aaron Reynolds, and Tatiana Peters. Okay. I thought
- they were both great. I know Joseph from
- work that we've done together talking about how to better support refugees and immigrants in the global
- solar systems. So that trail was great. And I think that, well, the good thing is we can't make a bad
- decision. That's the good thing. There aren't any mayoral vacancies? The only thing that I was going
- to say is there are one, two,
- I count them that way. One, two, three. Three seats that are up at the end of January. Maybe. Right.
- If somebody doesn't read the line. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Twenty twenty six is literally. That's right. Yeah.
- I was thinking I know I had to like double check myself. You know, that's because, you know, if the
- rate things turn over,
- We could just. We could just. We could make a decision and then write the other person and say, you're
- really tough notch. Yeah. And if another position opens.
- I mean, I don't think we need to even deliberate again or call it. Yeah, we need to make a recommendation
- or an individual person could do it, not on behalf of the committee officially. We've kind of done that
- type of thing before. Yeah. Hey, we all discussed this previously. We did not vote on this person, but
- we all agreed they were great. I'm individually making a recommendation if it becomes a barrier in terms
- of timeline. But yeah, we'll be meeting a bunch in a year anyway. So actually, I might not be on this
- commission to this committee anymore. I shouldn't have. I didn't plucked for another one. OK. I slightly
- lean Joseph.
- for the reason of... It's a different perspective. Well, and in particular, the youth council piece,
- the currently in high school piece, and he's not going to be in high school for super long, but he has
- another semester. And then if he's still here, that might help establish additional connections and
- maintain continuity with the Menorah County Youth Council, for instance, which is high school students.
- So if he's part of it now,
- and then like knows the people there. So even in the transition, like that kind of like helps create
- a bridge of sorts. That's just my theorizing, but maybe that could be helpful. That seems like an attractive
- element, I guess to me. I would agree. And when we were walking out, Triana asked if I knew of any social
- work internships. And so I do think that like there are other paths forward.
- I think we can also say like, you two are both people that we want to see on this commission. When January
- 31st hits, please reapply. Or I think I would consider applications in this. Yeah. To be active enough.
- Fabulous. Yeah. Fabulous. But I'm, okay. Should I make a motion then? We're feeling that way? Is that
- all right with you? I can go with no. Okay. I would like to move that we recommend,
- joseph shane for appointment to see c2 of the commission on the status of children and youth second
- and brahlo yes yes clarity yes okay um okay is that something that we can touch on it in the email to
- her that we would
- We have students that are up very soon. We are very excited about her. And for an example, if the one
- council appointment does not reapply, that's a seat that will be vacant starting at the beginning of
- February. So you can always do that. And then also, usually what happens is, and this actually just
- happened with
- friend um he applied for there's another person that applied for something else there wasn't an opening
- um at all the mayor's office had an appointment or an opening and i expressed yeah i talked to them
- and um they seemed really interested and they appointed them so they you know she also came from and
- another student came from
- I think it was in September, I did a talk on campus about getting involved with boards and commissions.
- And immediately after that, we got emails about, hey, you talked to us about this. How can I apply with
- Next Steps? So she's applied for several of them. So it's interesting to see where else. And talking
- with her over the phone, her first passion she mentioned was students and youth. The other one was,
- uh, folks with disabilities and some of our senior residents as well, which she had mentioned too. So
- she actually, she applied for the commission of an agent too. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. Let's keep that in
- mind and maybe communicate to her that we've interested in potential appointment if the scene opens
- up in the near future. Which committee appoints to commission an agent? I believe that is A or team A. Okay.
- That would be, I think, Esau Cain and Isabelle. She communicates about it. She's an exemplary candidate.
- All right. Hey, I'm going to go get our guest. OK. And I'm still not seeing Chris at all. So not so
- great. Well, what happened in there?
- Yeah. Hi there. Where would you like me? Anywhere you'd like. Anywhere is good, yeah. And you're Zachary,
- is that right? Yes, that's right. And it seems like maybe we don't have. Nope, not. We don't have any
- queue folks. Not yet.
- Well, while we're waiting, I think we can do introductions. I'm seeing the representatives of district
- six, and I'm the chair of this committee. Okay. Welcome. Thank you. I'm at 30, I'm an at-large
- representative, also member of the committee. John Fagrassoli from the clerk's office. Nice to see you
- again. Nice to see you. Thank you for all of city council, district four. Nice to see you.
- Great to meet you. Great. Okay, so
- I guess we don't have our own person, so it looks like it's just you and me. So we're going to get started,
- and we're each going to ask a couple of questions, and then we're going to talk about, like, a logistical
- aspect of being audited. Does anyone want to start? I can't, sure. So this is the Commission
- on Sustainability, which has been around since about 2005. We also have an economic and sustainable
- development department.
- Sustainability can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. Can you tell us a little bit more about
- what sustainability means to you, how you think about sustainability, and what drove your interest in
- applying to this commission? Well, I'm extremely interested in sustainability. Most of my passions are
- related to sustainability or environmentalism in some way.
- I'm very passionate, as I think you know about transportation issues, I emailed you about transportation
- issues, which I know this doesn't directly intersect with, but that's one thing I'm interested
- in. Sustainable transportation, composting, lots of wildlife protection, things of that nature, are
- all things I'm very interested in. My job is I'm an independent map maker, and a lot of my maps and
- graphic designs and things that I do are nature, science, and environmental related.
- So it's like a huge fashion of mine, anything having to do with the environment or nature or sustainability,
- so yeah. Okay, great. Yeah, well, we'd like to ask the next question. Yeah, well, just following up
- on, you mentioned wildlife protection. What does that mean? Well, I think, I fundamentally think that
- cities and wildlife are 100% compatible and there's nothing, there's no reason why they can't, you can't
- invite wildlife into the city and increase biodiversity.
- there are different ways you can do that. And I'm not sure, one of my questions actually, I don't know
- if there's going to be a chance for questions or not, is the overlap between this commission and other
- commissions? Because I know there's an environmental commission, and I know obviously there's transportation
- commission and transportation and land use policy are in sustainability policy maybe, but there's also
- those commissions. So I know there's going to be some overlap. What, how much does this deal with different
- issues compared to others? That's one question I have. I don't know if it's, yeah.
- You know, environmental commission, sustainability commission often have similar goals and relate and
- sometimes join forces and things. Clearly they're both concerned about climate change and so forth.
- But I guess where I'm going with that is, so there's a, here, I'll just give you an example. There's
- a policy right now for a deer haunted griffey. Is that compatible with
- you know, wildlife protection, because it's an ecosystem, it's done for ecosystem purposes. Is it? Yes,
- I think it is, personally. I think, I mean, the ideal scenario would be to have predators around, but
- obviously that's not going to be happening anytime in the near future, and that's absolutely in Bloomington,
- can do with the city. But because there's a lack of that, you have to, I think, hunch to control the
- deer population, so. Okay. Yeah, I'm totally in on it. Right in there, yeah.
- Dave says the right answer. No, I mean, it wouldn't disqualify you if you said, you know, I'm towards
- protecting deer, but, you know, there is a difference, right? I mean, you know, do you say deer are
- more important than birds because that affects birds and for certain things. Yeah. So that's,
- that's all I. And you have that as an ecosystem in an entirety and not just one system. Yeah. I have
- a question based on your
- application. It's been a while. One of the things that you dealt with in DC was environmental racism.
- Obviously, Wilmington is a lot more white than DC. But I guess what, I'm curious, what do you think
- are the differences between the obstacles that DC versus here faces? And that's a very high level question.
- So if you can't answer, don't worry.
- And then how would you use those skills to tackle it here? Yeah. So the case I was talking about was
- in my neighborhood, my old neighborhood, I used to, I was a former low level elected official in D.C.
- The neighborhood that I lived in has a residential park and other people use all the time that the local
- transit agency in the 90s
- took soil from a site that they later found out had World War I era chemical weapons and buried it in
- the park there for, and it's been there for 20 years and people have known about it that it was there.
- And they keep finding chemical weapons materials in the park. And so when I was, it was in my district.
- And so one of the reasons why I ran was to drive up awareness about that because that's a crazy, it's
- nuts that there's chemical weapons buried in a residential park and people have just been ignoring it
- for decades. And there has been reason to know that it was there
- from the very beginning, from the 1990s. So I actually, I met with Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton
- several times, who was our D.C.'s delegate to Congress, and got her to actually write several letters
- to the Biden administration and now the Trump administration requesting additional funding to basically
- turn it into a superfine site to try to get it fixed. So that's why I brought up, that's something that
- I've worked on is environmental racism. I don't think there's anything of that
- And hopefully nothing at that level in Bloomington that I would have to work on. But we are always surprised.
- Yeah, I know. We have our share of Superfund sites, PCPs, and... In poor neighborhoods. Yeah, that tends
- to be where they are, yeah. So the reason that's why I brought that up is that I have some experience
- working on, especially within an advisory role, the local form of government that I was
- an elected official and doesn't really exist anywhere else. It's an advisory role, kind of similar to
- this commission. An advisory that provides advice. Nobody actually has to listen to your advice. So
- it was a similar role. So what I tried to do instead of being able, because I couldn't actually get
- anything done through voting or passing things, although we did vote and pass some things, was to drive
- up public awareness and get it in the news, which I did several times. It's been in several local news
- stories and I got a local congresswoman to act too. So I'm very proud.
- I mean, it's still there, it's still unresolved, but I drove a lot of awareness about that and I'm proud
- of that work. How that connects to Bloomington, obviously, so DC is not a state, it's a federal government,
- it's under federal occupation right now as we speak. And so that obviously has its own challenges. And
- I think it's not out.
- out of the question that Bloomington might have some National Guard troops sent in or something.
- I don't know, but I don't think that would affect sustainability issues very much, hopefully. But because
- of DC not being a state, there are so many issues that go back to that. And that is one of them, because
- that was a national park plot of land. And since we don't have any representation of Congress that can
- vote at least, we don't have anybody that could do anything about it directly. So anyway, sorry, I'm
- rambling a little bit.
- I was actually just in DC last week. Yeah. For Crooked Con. Okay, cool. Pots of America. Cool, cool.
- Yeah, that's fun. That's really interesting. Thank you for sharing, baby. So does anyone have any substance
- questions? I have a logistic question and I was going to answer Zachary's question as well
- about intersections. Dave and I have both served on the Commission on Sustainability. I think both as
- residents and as council members, maybe only as a council member in your case. Yes.
- I served on it as a resident previously and I served as a council member. The city's climate action
- plan and then the UN sustainable development goals are kind of the frameworks that the commission uses
- to think about sustainability, which extends much more broadly to like social equity and economic issues.
- Though I think there does tend to be a strong intersectional component with environment type of things,
- but you'll see the environmental commission doing more like air quality stuff or habitat corridors or
- things like that, right? Like pollinator friendly habitat. So a little different, even though there's
- intersections.
- Um, I think the other thing I would just say, by the way, the commissions work, um, is that with all
- commissions, actually, it's useful for folks to know this is that it's pretty open-ended in terms of
- they can shape for themselves what the priority areas are, how they want to engage this particular
- commission. Actually, the environmental commission has weighed in on development, you know, and land
- use proposals. There's no reason that commission on sustainability couldn't do that. Also, I think they
- even have on a few occasions, similar transportation issues. Yes, we have a transportation commission
- that is charged with sustainability as one of its.
- Pillars for how they make decisions, but I think the synergies and cross commission interaction and
- engagement is like really positive. So like, don't feel like you have to stay in your, I guess, like
- those lanes aren't closed. Like, it's just finding the right fit for like commission collaboration or
- how to engage on those topics. My logistical question is just that I think this commission meets once a month.
- Uh, on Tuesdays at like six to seven 30. And then I think they've been in that haven't recently in the
- last year or so of also having what work sessions. So maybe twice a month, actually, you know, if you're
- in one of the working groups. Um, and so just generally important that folks are able to attend in person
- most of the time, uh, for, you know, the group step or I'm able to conduct their business and not get
- bogged down. So just confirming, I guess your availability and commitment to be able to.
- serve in that capacity. Yeah. And it's the first Tuesday of the month, is that right? The second Tuesday
- of the month, 6 PM. Yeah. I mean, theoretically, that shouldn't be an issue at all. Like I said, I'm
- my own boss, so I can move my... I have a lot of work, but I can move it around. So it shouldn't be
- an issue. Thank you. Right. Yeah. So in that case, this interview has concluded. Just real quick, it's
- a two-year appointment, but how long is the seat?
- before we reappoint. Also, like the other one, this one is up at 26. Okay. Just wondering about your
- availability for the horizon of two years. Do you think you can serve the term? Yeah. Should be. That's
- the only reason why I wouldn't be able to. Okay. Terrific. Yeah. I mean, obviously, things come up in
- life. Sure, of course. But as of right now, yes. It's not a hard and fast commitment, but just we tend
- to meet a lot to appoint people. Yeah.
- So after this, we will deliberate and make a recommendation to the council as a full body. That will
- probably be voted on on December 3rd. And so you should hear from Deputy Clerk Cross in the first two
- weeks of December. And it's likely that your work would start in January. Yes. Well, thank you so much.
- It's so fun to learn from you.
- We're going to meet you. Yeah, you too. Yeah. Thank you. How many more you guys have today? We'll see.
- That's it. We're heading to a meeting. Oh, OK. Yeah. It's a deliberation session on the housing. Oh,
- OK. It's from 630 to 830. Oh, yeah. I think I saw about that. OK. You know all the chairs we set up
- for? Yeah, we've got rooms, so. Yeah, that might stick around. OK, what time is it? 630? 630 to 830.
- OK, cool. That might stick around. Cool. All right, thank you. Yeah, sure.
- He's great to meet you. So Christopher just sent an email two minutes ago and said he did not get the
- calendar notification. His calendar notification did not alert him. And he just realized the meeting
- is right now. Is it too late to swing up there? Yes. I'm assuming so, but I'm willing to run if it's
- a possibility. Well, we do have two vanities.
- Um, the other thing is there's a C and Sean actually interview both of them. So, um, technically staff
- has already interviewed. I see MCC appointment, but that's, that's the, um, usually been an ex officio
- seat from them in our County environmental council, essentially. And that's vacant. And then there's.
- Council vacancy at CCC 5, but I don't see any others. And I've been asking about the county's appointment
- and surprise, surprise, I've not heard. Oh, it's not MCC, it's the commissioners. Right, but normally
- they've made that appointment as somebody from the Monroe County Environmental Council is how they've
- typically built that CEO. Yeah, it was no one had it for a long time.
- It also works for utilities. Okay, so should we make a recommendation on Zachary? I think that's closer.
- I'm happy to do that. Yeah, I feel good about it. Without interviewing Christopher. I'm a little bit
- like, I don't know, we scheduled the meeting. I feel bad. Other things might come up. I'd be happy to
- reconsider him. People make mistakes. There are two up in 26. There are two others up in 26, and that's
- not Austin and Zeno Rose.
- So there is the opportunity for us to either re-interview the two people that may re-apply and Chris,
- but I do think given Jennifer's email, that they are looking for us to make the appointment on December
- 3rd. Does that count? Yes, I'm okay with Zachary. I just wanted to know. I mean, mistakes happen. We
- didn't get to meet Christopher.
- Yeah, there are quite a few things open in 26 on our side and the mayor's side, so six seats total open.
- And actually, I do believe, I think Zero might be resigning. Okay. So I got an email. I think it was
- mentioned to staff that he might be resigning, but I've not seen anything. So. Well, only two months
- left. I mean, that would be a pretty simple transition.
- Yeah, I've heard that there might be another resolution to it, but I'm not sure. So, um, I'll make the,
- um, motion to appoint, uh, Zachary. To see five. Okay. Uh, clarity. Yes. And then that's it. Okay. Fabulous.
- In that case, this meeting is adjourned.