WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.380 - I'd like to go ahead and call this meeting to order 00:00:02.380 --> 00:00:04.800 - the 00:00:04.800 --> 00:00:10.560 - Last regular session of the Bloomington Common Council before our summer recess here on June 4th 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:14.660 - So will the clerk please call the roll councilmember Flaherty here rough 00:00:14.660 --> 00:00:16.520 - Rollo 00:00:16.520 --> 00:00:19.880 - Here Piedmont Smith. Yeah, Stossberg here 00:00:19.880 --> 00:00:25.860 - Zulick here Rosenberger here and a sorry here 00:00:27.360 --> 00:00:32.320 - Great, thank you. So as I mentioned, this is the last meeting prior to summer recess and 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:38.480 - Generally start meetings off with some interesting bits of information related to justice equity 00:00:38.480 --> 00:00:39.880 - and related 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:41.880 - And I just want to highlight some 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:49.560 - Summer events and other happenings over the next month or so. So first off June is pride month 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:51.560 - So happy pride 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:56.230 - It pride month is dedicated to the celebration of the LGBTQ plus community and can serve as a 00:00:56.230 --> 00:00:58.600 - reminder that the fight for equal rights is 00:00:58.600 --> 00:00:59.440 - ongoing 00:00:59.440 --> 00:01:05.810 - Pride month commemorates the Stonewall riots in New York City in 1969 which sparked the LGBTQ plus 00:01:05.810 --> 00:01:07.200 - rights movement and 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:12.900 - Bloomington pride is actually scheduled for August 23rd this year because we always delay that to 00:01:12.900 --> 00:01:15.120 - make sure our student population is back in 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:17.120 - town and can celebrate that 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:22.400 - But there are pride events and parades this month in Indianapolis and Jeffersonville and Evansville 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:24.100 - and lots of other places around 00:01:24.100 --> 00:01:28.600 - Indiana and pride month was first recognized in 1999 00:01:28.600 --> 00:01:33.480 - Second I want to highlight world refugee day, which was mentioned by an 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:37.560 - staff member of Exodus at public comment mic a couple weeks ago 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:44.820 - World refugee excuse me world refugee day is celebrated internationally on June 20th as a day of 00:01:44.820 --> 00:01:45.920 - awareness and recognition 00:01:46.240 --> 00:01:48.240 - of the strength and courage of 00:01:48.240 --> 00:01:54.310 - people forced to flee their home countries to escape conflict and danger and then settle in new 00:01:54.310 --> 00:01:54.960 - lands an 00:01:54.960 --> 00:02:01.480 - Event to celebrate our local refugee population is this Saturday June 7th from 3 to 6 at first 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:05.480 - Methodist Church and World Refugee Day was first established in 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:08.080 - 2001 and 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:12.480 - Lastly I want to remind us all about the Juneteenth 00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:17.120 - Celebration and Juneteenth is recognized on June 19th each year 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:19.360 - and 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:20.520 - the 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:26.520 - Juneteenth commemorates the end of slavery in the United States and this year the Bloomington Juneteenth 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:28.560 - celebration will be on Friday at June 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:32.240 - 13th in Switchyard Park from 2 to 9 p.m 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:37.720 - And Juneteenth was just made a federal holiday a few years ago in 2021 00:02:37.720 --> 00:02:43.020 - and I'm highlighting these three occasions as a reminder of the progress that has been made simply 00:02:43.020 --> 00:02:44.900 - to commemorate these events and 00:02:44.900 --> 00:02:50.160 - That it is so important to keep acknowledging and celebrating our diverse community and community 00:02:50.160 --> 00:02:52.600 - members and without that diversity 00:02:52.600 --> 00:02:54.600 - We would be a lot less interesting 00:02:54.600 --> 00:03:01.320 - So moving on to our agenda summation for this evening we have no minutes for approval 00:03:01.320 --> 00:03:05.120 - So we will move straight into the reports section 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.240 - first we will hear reports from council members and 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:14.100 - Second, we will have reports from the mayor and city offices and seeing as this is the last meeting 00:03:14.100 --> 00:03:15.360 - before summer recess 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.440 - There are lots of reports tonight 00:03:17.440 --> 00:03:21.150 - we will have an environmental Commission report and then a report from the planning and 00:03:21.150 --> 00:03:24.600 - transportation department regarding the UDO and 00:03:24.600 --> 00:03:28.720 - Then finally have the economic and sustainable development 00:03:28.720 --> 00:03:33.060 - Department giving us the annual tax abatement report 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:40.420 - A maximum of 20 minutes is set aside for each of these reports as a whole unit 00:03:40.420 --> 00:03:45.250 - So I do expect that we will have to extend that report time this evening from the mayor and city 00:03:45.250 --> 00:03:45.860 - offices 00:03:45.860 --> 00:03:48.480 - after that we will have 00:03:48.480 --> 00:03:52.240 - Reports from council committees and I do want to note that this afternoon 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:56.220 - There was an updated agenda sent out as a packet addendum 00:03:56.220 --> 00:04:01.240 - So under council committees there will be a report from the sidewalk committee and then also a 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.240 - report from the Jack Hopkins committee 00:04:04.200 --> 00:04:06.600 - That will be followed by reports from the public 00:04:06.600 --> 00:04:12.370 - So that will be the first opportunity for the public to comment on items not on the agenda this 00:04:12.370 --> 00:04:13.000 - evening 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:17.810 - After that we have appointments to boards and commissions and I do believe that we have some of 00:04:17.810 --> 00:04:18.880 - those this evening 00:04:18.880 --> 00:04:23.200 - And then we will get into our legislation for second readings and resolutions tonight 00:04:23.200 --> 00:04:26.120 - the amended agenda 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.760 - Changed the order of this a little bit. We will start with ordinance 00:04:29.760 --> 00:04:32.360 - 2025 - 22 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:38.180 - Authorizing and approving a payment in lieu of taxes agreement with Henderson court housing and 00:04:38.180 --> 00:04:39.720 - then we will have ordinance 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:42.120 - 2025 - 21 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:46.600 - Authorizing and improving a payment in lieu of taxes agreement with Cambridge Square 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:52.560 - Lastly we will finish up our legislation with resolution 2025. Oh nine 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:57.640 - allocating Jack Hopkins Social Service program funding for 2025 00:04:59.080 --> 00:05:04.320 - After legislation, we will have any additional public comment anybody who has anything else 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:09.480 - They want to add for items not on the agenda a note about council schedule and adjournment 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:14.480 - So having wrapped up that summation 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:20.740 - Councilmember reports and I will start I can't remember where I started last week 00:05:20.740 --> 00:05:23.080 - So I think I'll start on my right tonight 00:05:23.080 --> 00:05:28.680 - Did I did I start with you last week? Yeah, great. So let's start on my right with councilmember Flaherty 00:05:28.960 --> 00:05:33.860 - No report other than a suggestion for future consideration, which is that we could rotate where it 00:05:33.860 --> 00:05:34.360 - starts 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:36.800 - So it starts with somebody besides the two people at the end 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:44.200 - You know the way we all right out there, thank you I will do that 00:05:44.200 --> 00:05:48.000 - Councilmember rough 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.000 - Let's go up to councilmember Rallo online 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:56.160 - I have no report. Thank you. Thank you councilmember Piedmont Smith 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.120 - Yes, thank you. I have a few things to mention tonight 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:06.760 - First of all, I'm wearing bright orange two days in advance of wear orange day 00:06:06.760 --> 00:06:12.440 - which is on June 6 this year and it is a day to 00:06:12.440 --> 00:06:18.910 - commemorate people who have died from gun violence in this country and to call for common-sense gun 00:06:18.910 --> 00:06:19.880 - control to 00:06:19.880 --> 00:06:22.640 - avoid future deaths 00:06:22.640 --> 00:06:25.640 - As a result of firearms in this country 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:31.680 - Every day in the US 125 people are shot and killed and hundreds more are wounded due to gun 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:32.640 - violence 00:06:32.640 --> 00:06:39.040 - The leading cause of death in 2022 among children and teens was 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.200 - gun violence 00:06:41.200 --> 00:06:45.960 - It is a public health epidemic. It is a social epidemic 00:06:45.960 --> 00:06:51.640 - It is a major problem in our society that we need to remember and work towards 00:06:51.640 --> 00:06:54.360 - solutions 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.360 - Why orange? 00:06:56.400 --> 00:06:58.400 - So on January 21st 2013 00:06:58.400 --> 00:07:01.280 - a 15 year old 00:07:01.280 --> 00:07:07.990 - young woman named Hadia Pendleton marched in President Obama's Second Inaugural Parade and less 00:07:07.990 --> 00:07:09.240 - than a week later 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:12.040 - She was shot and killed on a playground in Chicago 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:18.120 - Soon after this tragedy occurred her friends commemorated her life by wearing orange 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:23.320 - Which is the color hunters wear in the woods to protect themselves and others from being shot 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.900 - so that this has been a 00:07:26.900 --> 00:07:30.480 - Day of action and 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:37.200 - remembrance for several years in honor of Hadia and all the other victims of gun violence 00:07:37.200 --> 00:07:40.480 - So wear orange on Friday 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:46.680 - I also wanted to say that my constituent meeting in June is a week earlier than normal. So it will 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.960 - be this Saturday June 7th 00:07:48.960 --> 00:07:51.720 - from 11 a.m. Till 12 noon 00:07:52.840 --> 00:07:59.380 - With two options you can either join via zoom or in person in the McCloskey room, which is room 135 00:07:59.380 --> 00:08:00.240 - here in City Hall 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:05.320 - You can find the zoom link on the City Council web page 00:08:05.320 --> 00:08:09.360 - And finally just a report regarding 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.560 - Recycling so the waste reduction district of Monroe County 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:18.640 - Started a new contract with rum key for handling their 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:23.000 - recyclable materials starting June 1st or June 2nd one day 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.120 - and 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.760 - One big change is that you can now recycle 00:08:27.760 --> 00:08:29.640 - waxed 00:08:29.640 --> 00:08:36.000 - paper cartons like milk cartons a cartons that you know some soups come in and other drinks 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.200 - you just need to try to remove the 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:45.310 - The plastic spout and then you can save save up a box of those and bring them to the waste 00:08:45.310 --> 00:08:46.420 - reduction district 00:08:46.880 --> 00:08:49.240 - either on South Walnut Street or one of the other 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:51.840 - locations 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:56.040 - So that's good news as far as recycling goes and that's my report. Thank you 00:08:56.040 --> 00:09:01.420 - Thank you. Can I ask you if you can put those things in your recycling bin, too? 00:09:01.420 --> 00:09:08.270 - I'm afraid not because Republic Services does not recycle those and the city's contract is with 00:09:08.270 --> 00:09:09.400 - Republic Services 00:09:09.400 --> 00:09:12.080 - Great. Thank you for that clarification 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:15.000 - Down the other ends councilmember, sorry 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.000 - I'm to 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:23.340 - Somewhat quick reports and the first thing is that I just got back from attending the global 00:09:23.340 --> 00:09:25.160 - entrepreneurship Congress in 00:09:25.160 --> 00:09:30.780 - Indianapolis which brought together this ecosystem of builders and policymakers and researchers and 00:09:30.780 --> 00:09:34.920 - from around the world are working to strengthen innovation and inclusion 00:09:34.920 --> 00:09:37.440 - in economic growth 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.520 - Especially in cities and regions like ours and the central message. It was first 00:09:41.520 --> 00:09:44.240 - I should say it was super cool because there were 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:47.120 - We were very well 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:52.320 - Represented at this global congress both in terms of attendance 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:55.940 - I mean a lot of IU folks obviously, but a lot of folks from the BDC 00:09:55.940 --> 00:10:00.060 - Jen Pearl I saw a second ago was there. So was Val Pena 00:10:00.060 --> 00:10:06.910 - Folks from from the ESD. One of our newest employees was there. It was really cool to see to see 00:10:06.910 --> 00:10:07.400 - them 00:10:07.400 --> 00:10:12.560 - But but the and also many people who are speaking highlighting things that we're doing 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:18.380 - Here like John Zodi, for example gave a really cool session on CFDI 00:10:18.380 --> 00:10:23.360 - CFDI friendly and sort of the things that we're doing here in Bloomington. So that was super super 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:23.640 - cool 00:10:23.640 --> 00:10:31.560 - Just a handful of things that that I got from it though just to add to the ongoing conversation 00:10:31.560 --> 00:10:36.760 - The first one is how important local specialization is. It's a they they 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:42.380 - Argued the cities that focus on specific sectors or strengths whether that's climate or tech or 00:10:42.380 --> 00:10:44.000 - creative industries or cybersecurity 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:48.240 - Tend to attract more investment more talent more buyers for local innovation 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:53.180 - And so they sort of argued against this model of just general innovation hubs rather into focused 00:10:53.180 --> 00:10:57.560 - Innovation hubs. I thought that was a strong interesting argument the importance of mapping 00:10:57.560 --> 00:11:00.720 - ecosystems to strengthen collaboration 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:06.300 - They talked about how placemaking can be useful for economic development and also talked about how 00:11:06.300 --> 00:11:08.800 - culture matters as much as capital 00:11:08.800 --> 00:11:12.520 - And giving people certainty when they come to City Hall 00:11:12.520 --> 00:11:16.720 - So a lot of the sessions that I attended were for policymakers thinking about how do you make good 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:17.600 - partnerships? 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:22.540 - With businesses with investors with the type of people who want to come and do cool things 00:11:22.540 --> 00:11:27.600 - In in your city and time after time the stories that were told of success 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:31.040 - Were of cities who who spent their time? 00:11:31.040 --> 00:11:34.720 - Simplifying their processes giving clearer 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:40.640 - Expectations for outcomes for people and that they align those processes with the clear 00:11:40.640 --> 00:11:44.660 - Values and outcomes that they wanted to achieve so that was I think really encouraging and I'll be 00:11:44.660 --> 00:11:46.280 - happy to share more about that 00:11:46.280 --> 00:11:53.520 - Over the coming weeks and months as I'm sure others who attended will as well my other 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:59.080 - short little update and I don't tend to give sort of personal updates as much as 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:02.980 - because we sort of said as a group that we would mostly spend time talking about the ways that we 00:12:02.980 --> 00:12:04.200 - spent our time this week, but 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:09.520 - on a very personal note this Sunday as much as we've been talking about all of the many things that 00:12:09.520 --> 00:12:15.760 - We're observing in this month and the month that just passed was national cancer survivor day 00:12:15.760 --> 00:12:20.390 - And this is a day that honors the millions of people across the globe who faced a cancer diagnosis 00:12:20.390 --> 00:12:22.040 - and lived to tell their story 00:12:22.040 --> 00:12:27.380 - and of course for me, this is super personal because I'm just two days before that and was my 00:12:27.380 --> 00:12:30.600 - seventh anniversary of being diagnosed with leukemia and 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:32.720 - I remember so clearly 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:35.320 - that moment that stillness the 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:38.760 - But I guess the clarity 00:12:38.760 --> 00:12:46.680 - but also the sort of sense of fear and as I was thinking about it this weekend, I 00:12:47.160 --> 00:12:54.370 - Remembered why I got into politics to begin with I used to attend political meetings and often felt 00:12:54.370 --> 00:12:54.720 - that 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.160 - My voice was not represented 00:12:57.160 --> 00:13:04.840 - That I was not seen in those contexts and and it sort of stirred me up 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:10.500 - I think too. This is the part where I'm going to say sorry, but it stirred me up to 00:13:11.160 --> 00:13:17.280 - To a reminder of why we're all here and I think it's so easy sometimes to get caught up and process 00:13:17.280 --> 00:13:18.600 - and actually somebody 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:22.200 - Also is here who said this to me and I saw you walk in but now I don't see you anymore 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.200 - but but and so I 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:29.720 - As I'm thinking about why we're here and what it is that we have an opportunity to do 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:33.200 - I wanted to remind myself because I think I'm guilty of this 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:38.720 - Of the times that we act like we have so much time to do good 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:44.320 - but the reality is that you know tomorrow's not promised and I think that that's that's a reality 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:45.360 - that I live with on a 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:50.500 - Day-to-day basis, but certainly it's true of our political time. And so I I just am 00:13:50.500 --> 00:13:53.200 - publicly saying my 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:56.680 - recommitment to the urgency of public service 00:13:56.680 --> 00:14:03.280 - And it with that I also wanted to apologize to councilmember Flaherty and councilmember 00:14:03.280 --> 00:14:08.960 - I forgot your last name just now because you're sitting next to me. Sorry councilmember Rosenberger 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:14.240 - Particularly because you know, I think that when when we've been talking about some needed 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:20.120 - Changes to like our development ordinance, you know, I I have opted often to say well 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:25.200 - Let's try to do big things and and you know use use our time to do those things 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.800 - But I actually think that and the person who is here that I no longer see 00:14:28.800 --> 00:14:33.630 - Talk to me afterwards and I forget their name. I'm so sorry, but about the importance of 00:14:33.630 --> 00:14:34.600 - incrementalism 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:40.540 - So do what you can do while you can do it. And so anyways, I just thought I'd take this personal 00:14:40.540 --> 00:14:41.960 - moment to say that 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:44.680 - It's such a pleasure working with you all 00:14:44.680 --> 00:14:49.410 - It's such a pleasure to have the opportunity to serve the city of Bloomington to make sure that we 00:14:49.410 --> 00:14:49.920 - center 00:14:49.920 --> 00:14:54.970 - The residents of the city and everything that we say and do and so with that. Thank you for the 00:14:54.970 --> 00:14:55.300 - time 00:14:55.300 --> 00:15:03.120 - Thank you councilmember Rosenberger, thank you so much. Thank you so much for that 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:04.840 - thoughtful 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:06.840 - report councilmember, sorry 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:13.160 - Those ordinances that didn't get introduced had four votes if you would like to incrementally 00:15:13.160 --> 00:15:19.560 - Change make sure you do changes. I am happy to bring them back with your fifth vote. I 00:15:19.560 --> 00:15:24.040 - I don't mean that as a joke and so 00:15:24.040 --> 00:15:28.040 - I'm very serious that like actually what I'm going to talk about tonight is 00:15:28.040 --> 00:15:31.080 - some properties with affordable housing that 00:15:32.400 --> 00:15:37.530 - They're at risk. We're at risk of losing 29 affordable units. So it's like just very timely also 00:15:37.530 --> 00:15:38.060 - that the UDO 00:15:38.060 --> 00:15:41.920 - Needs to be updated as soon as we can. So 00:15:41.920 --> 00:15:46.840 - My report is about seminary point apartments. So just for 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:54.410 - An orientation this is these are the properties just north of Kroger on 2nd Street. So it's the 00:15:54.410 --> 00:15:54.800 - corner of 00:15:54.800 --> 00:15:57.280 - College and 2nd Street 00:15:57.280 --> 00:16:02.400 - It's three buildings owned by the county owned by Monroe County and in these three buildings. There 00:16:02.400 --> 00:16:02.680 - are 00:16:02.680 --> 00:16:10.200 - 29 residential units and a handful of our small businesses and nonprofits that live there 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:15.240 - So it's two it's just under two and a half acres. It has my sister's closet 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:19.760 - blue-tip billiards friendly be cidery and Jeff's warehouse 00:16:19.760 --> 00:16:24.560 - This prop these properties are in our Bloomington urban enterprise zone 00:16:24.560 --> 00:16:28.920 - So they have access to property owners have access to different grants 00:16:28.920 --> 00:16:36.080 - The small businesses have access to grants and residents also have access to grants because it is 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:38.120 - in in the enterprise zone 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:44.200 - Some good things other good things about these properties is that they do provide 29 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:48.520 - Residential units that are pretty affordable for Bloomington 00:16:48.520 --> 00:16:56.340 - So monthly rents range from $400 a month for a one-bedroom up to $700 a month for a three-bedroom 00:16:56.340 --> 00:17:02.380 - This is one of I would say one of the most convenient and connected locations to live in Bloomington. 00:17:02.380 --> 00:17:02.560 - It is 00:17:02.560 --> 00:17:09.780 - Literally across the street from a Kroger and it is on our beeline multi-use trail 00:17:09.780 --> 00:17:15.650 - It's a really neat community of neighbors. I've been getting to know some of the tenants folks hang 00:17:15.650 --> 00:17:18.040 - out and really consider each other family 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:21.300 - And it's also it acts as a neighborhood hub 00:17:21.300 --> 00:17:25.440 - So it is, you know, just a little bit away from like our Kirkwood 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:30.200 - And our square and so people can come there and do quite a bit 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.680 - You can shop for clothing you can shop for furniture 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:39.560 - You can play pool you can grab a beer and you can grab something to eat. So a lot happens right in 00:17:39.560 --> 00:17:40.800 - this property 00:17:40.800 --> 00:17:47.000 - I've been talking to the tenants because a couple things one is that 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.000 - the 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:54.240 - Apartments some of them or all of them are not really the best living conditions, right? 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:59.680 - so I've talked to tenants about a dead rat in a common hallway that wasn't removed for months or 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:07.120 - Rotting treads on stairs that weren't replaced for months gutters that have been rotting and you 00:18:07.120 --> 00:18:08.880 - can't park or walk under them 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:12.600 - Because in the winter icicles hang and can be quite dangerous 00:18:12.600 --> 00:18:15.440 - there is 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:20.750 - An organization in Bloomington Bloomington homes for all they are on Instagram and they are a 00:18:20.750 --> 00:18:21.460 - housing 00:18:21.460 --> 00:18:25.480 - Advocacy organization that is part of the national homes for all network 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:31.040 - That this national network demands affordable safe and permanent homes for all 00:18:31.040 --> 00:18:36.780 - So they are working with residents all the residents that are wanting to participate in trying to 00:18:36.780 --> 00:18:38.320 - save these properties 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:44.140 - owned by the county because the bad I went through a lot of the good and the bad is the living 00:18:44.140 --> 00:18:45.760 - conditions that need to be 00:18:45.760 --> 00:18:47.760 - improved and 00:18:47.760 --> 00:18:50.200 - some other bad is that 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:52.640 - leases aren't being renewed past 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.840 - June or July of 2026 the county is planning on 00:18:56.840 --> 00:19:02.760 - Demolishing these buildings and I just think that's a it is a real shame, right? 00:19:02.760 --> 00:19:09.120 - it is 29 affordable naturally affordable occurring units in our downtown area and so 00:19:09.120 --> 00:19:13.280 - If anyone is out there and wants to be a part of that, I think 00:19:13.280 --> 00:19:20.960 - You can get in touch with Bloomington homes for all on Instagram and they may eventually make a 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:22.560 - Facebook page. I think 00:19:22.560 --> 00:19:30.540 - There is an article in the HT about it it came out on my 30th and there's also an op-ed in the HT 00:19:30.540 --> 00:19:30.980 - about it 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:36.950 - So I just wanted to bring that up that there are folks out there trying really hard to advocate and 00:19:36.950 --> 00:19:37.880 - keep our 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:40.400 - affordable housing. Thanks 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:44.440 - Thank You council members who look yes, thank you 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.760 - Happy pride everybody 00:19:46.760 --> 00:19:51.950 - I just want to talk a little bit about what pride is and what it means and how we can celebrate and 00:19:51.950 --> 00:19:53.460 - continue to advocate for 00:19:53.460 --> 00:19:58.800 - LGBTQ+ rights as a reminder the Stonewall uprisings were a product of 00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:01.780 - police raids on gay bars in New York City and 00:20:01.780 --> 00:20:08.800 - Two black transgender women Marsha P. Johnson and Sylvia Rivera were credited with kind of leading 00:20:08.800 --> 00:20:10.000 - the charge in 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:13.800 - in the Stonewall uprising and advocating for 00:20:13.800 --> 00:20:20.450 - LGBTQ+ rights and and so I think that we have to always remember that pride in the same way as 00:20:20.450 --> 00:20:21.000 - feminism 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.760 - always needs to be 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:30.270 - intersectional remember that feminism doesn't exist without pride and anti racism doesn't exist 00:20:30.270 --> 00:20:31.400 - without pride 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:34.520 - and we have to remember that all of these things are 00:20:34.520 --> 00:20:39.200 - Co-existing and 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:45.180 - When we think about how to celebrate pride remember the Stonewall uprisings were not peaceful 00:20:45.180 --> 00:20:51.520 - They weren't peaceful because sometimes when our oppressors are so in our face and so violent 00:20:51.520 --> 00:20:58.090 - The only option is to protect ourselves and so I will remind people in the same way that you 00:20:58.090 --> 00:20:59.280 - celebrate pride 00:20:59.280 --> 00:21:02.040 - Fight for pride, too. Thank you 00:21:02.040 --> 00:21:10.120 - Thank You councilmember daily, yes, thank you. I wanted to start off with happy pride everyone 00:21:10.120 --> 00:21:13.040 - and I 00:21:13.040 --> 00:21:18.020 - Want to take a moment to say that my heart goes out to the Jewish community right now 00:21:18.600 --> 00:21:24.300 - Once again, we are left heartbroken and frightened and angry with yet another anti-semitic attack 00:21:24.300 --> 00:21:30.410 - And so I just want to acknowledge those feelings and to state that you know, we need to stand with 00:21:30.410 --> 00:21:31.240 - our Jewish friends 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:33.740 - I stand with my Jewish friends and residents 00:21:33.740 --> 00:21:39.440 - The timing once you know, well, it's been happening more and more recently with these attacks 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:43.500 - But right now, you know, it's it's the beginning of pride month 00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:48.720 - And so it's just another reminder that our our presidential administration is not only turning its 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:51.000 - back on many vulnerable members of 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:56.020 - Our country, but in many instances their actions are encouraging terrible mistreatment of 00:21:56.020 --> 00:21:57.080 - marginalized groups 00:21:57.080 --> 00:22:03.780 - Because people are are being influenced by what they hear coming out of the mouths of many of our 00:22:03.780 --> 00:22:05.120 - leaders and so 00:22:05.120 --> 00:22:12.360 - Just take this extra moment. Please to remember not only this month stand with our our 00:22:12.860 --> 00:22:14.860 - LBGTQ 00:22:14.860 --> 00:22:20.030 - Community our Jewish community our immigrant community. Let's remember that this should be year-round 00:22:20.030 --> 00:22:22.580 - that we're standing with them and supporting them 00:22:22.580 --> 00:22:28.370 - And then actually I want to give a big thank you to councilmember Piedmont Smith. You took a lot of 00:22:28.370 --> 00:22:28.660 - my 00:22:28.660 --> 00:22:34.260 - Public comment that I was gonna make so thank you very much for recognizing where orange 00:22:34.260 --> 00:22:41.900 - For the past decade, I've been observing gun violence awareness day. It's been a really big 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:48.680 - Part of my life. I wasn't together enough to have my orange t-shirt together. I have many but 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:53.680 - Thank you very much for the to the administration too for also declaring Friday 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:59.340 - Bloomington gun violence awareness day and and helping us with the orange. Everybody, please. 00:22:59.340 --> 00:23:00.840 - Please put on some orange 00:23:00.840 --> 00:23:02.840 - I know it's a tough color, but you can find some 00:23:02.840 --> 00:23:08.720 - And and you know one further action that you could take is connect with our local Bloomington moms 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.040 - demand action group 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.900 - Reach out just sign up even on our website 00:23:13.900 --> 00:23:18.400 - If you're not already signed up reach out find out how you can get involved because I think gun 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:20.400 - violence being the number one 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:24.880 - cause of death for our children in this country is 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:28.100 - Absurd. I mean, there's no other word for it 00:23:28.100 --> 00:23:31.400 - So moms demand action every time for gun safety 00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.400 - Even look up Sandy Hook promise 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:40.680 - There's many ways that you can help support reducing the number of gun violence deaths that happen 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:41.860 - every day and then 00:23:41.860 --> 00:23:44.200 - You know 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:46.720 - Councilmember Piedmont Smith mentioned 125 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:49.840 - Americans are shot and killed every day 00:23:49.840 --> 00:23:56.400 - Twice that number are injured and these are life-changing injuries that I'm talking about. So it's 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:58.020 - not just that 125 00:23:58.020 --> 00:24:02.760 - It's hundreds every day have their lives altered forever by gun violence 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:05.400 - Thank you 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:10.730 - Thank you. I was also told that councilmember Rallo does indeed have an announcement to make if you 00:24:10.730 --> 00:24:11.960 - want to go ahead councilmember 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:13.960 - Oh, yes. Thank you president 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:16.200 - Stasberg I well first 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.040 - Thank you to my colleagues for 00:24:19.040 --> 00:24:26.320 - Observing pride month and for bring your attention to gun violence. I wanted to announce that 00:24:26.320 --> 00:24:29.040 - councilmember rough and I 00:24:29.040 --> 00:24:32.680 - will have our constituent meeting monthly constituent meeting on 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:41.600 - June 21st at 10 a.m. And you can find the link at Bloomington dot ion dot gov slash council 00:24:41.600 --> 00:24:48.440 - We usually go for over an hour about 90 minutes and we'd love to have you participate 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:54.840 - So that's June 21st 10 a.m. And the links on our calendar. Thank you 00:24:54.840 --> 00:24:58.080 - Great. Thank you. And I 00:24:58.560 --> 00:25:03.280 - In recognition of the time right now. I have a very quick little councilmember announcement 00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:07.720 - That is also my constituent meeting. I will continue to have constituent meetings this summer 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:13.040 - My next one is also scheduled on Saturday, June 21st at 11 o'clock 00:25:13.040 --> 00:25:17.040 - And I do those in person if the weather is crummy 00:25:17.040 --> 00:25:23.020 - I'll be in McCloskey room down the hall and if the weather is beautiful, then I will be outside in 00:25:23.020 --> 00:25:23.880 - the mayor's tent 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:28.400 - If you don't know the mayor has a tent at the farmers market each Saturday 00:25:28.920 --> 00:25:30.920 - with a different staff 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.000 - or department 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:38.600 - Recognize there so I'm crashing the mayor's tent. I do have permission to crash the mayor's tent 00:25:38.600 --> 00:25:45.880 - so I'll be there on Saturday, June 21st from 11 to noon and then also I 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:51.000 - Need to contact the the department that's going to be there on July 19th 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:55.630 - But I'm hoping that that's okay with them too as I'm looking across the room when they're signed up 00:25:55.630 --> 00:25:56.080 - for it 00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.400 - So thank you very much. That was a lot of councilmember reports 00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:05.920 - so now moving on to the mayor and city offices who is here from the Environmental Commission to 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:09.620 - wonderful if you want to come up to the mic and and 00:26:09.620 --> 00:26:12.640 - introduce yourself and 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:17.560 - As I said before this section of the meeting usually is 20 minutes 00:26:17.560 --> 00:26:22.320 - And I'm just gonna have to play it by ear to make sure that each of these reports gets their due 00:26:22.320 --> 00:26:23.160 - this evening 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:29.840 - Perfect. Thank you. Hi everyone. I'm Carrie Albright chair of the Environmental Commission. Thank 00:26:29.840 --> 00:26:30.880 - you for giving me some time 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.440 - Hopefully less than 20 minutes to talk a little bit about what we've accomplished in 2024 00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:39.780 - And at this point what we've been doing in 2025 as well and kind of where we've set our sails for 00:26:39.780 --> 00:26:40.520 - the year and for 00:26:40.520 --> 00:26:45.680 - The years to come so on this slide you can see the smiling faces of your current Environmental 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:46.280 - Commission 00:26:46.280 --> 00:26:50.200 - Last year, we had a few different folks leave due to graduations 00:26:50.760 --> 00:26:54.480 - due to just resignations and also I want to draw attention to 00:26:54.480 --> 00:27:00.330 - Linda Thompson and Mike Litwin who are both long-standing commissioners both served for decades and 00:27:00.330 --> 00:27:02.480 - really brought a lot of change a lot 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.040 - of impact the Environmental Commission so seeing Linda retire and having 00:27:06.040 --> 00:27:10.590 - Mike finally finally step away from the Commission was a big loss for us, but we very much 00:27:10.590 --> 00:27:12.480 - appreciated their contributions 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:17.920 - So as you know this past year we have 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:23.920 - Reworked our mission statement. So it was a bit a bit outdated as far as the language and the 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:25.580 - priorities for the Commission that we are 00:27:25.580 --> 00:27:28.120 - Today, so our current mission for the EC 00:27:28.120 --> 00:27:32.620 - It's promote the stewardship and preservation of the city's environment and natural resources by 00:27:32.620 --> 00:27:35.600 - seeking out and responding to emerging issues 00:27:35.600 --> 00:27:39.680 - addressing them with sound long-term policy recommendations and 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:44.140 - Increasing local environmental awareness and engagement and what you'll see is that that is sort of 00:27:44.140 --> 00:27:47.020 - where we are focusing here this past year and years 00:27:47.020 --> 00:27:48.200 - to come 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:53.840 - For 2024 we set our priorities around our biodiversity working group as well as our continued 00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:56.260 - outreach programs and activities in the community 00:27:56.260 --> 00:27:58.920 - I'll go through those in a little bit more detail 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.920 - For the biodiversity working group. You may recall last year 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.940 - I came in and talked a little bit about our habitat connectivity plan something 00:28:04.940 --> 00:28:08.980 - We were very excited about and something that definitely needed some additional edits for 00:28:08.980 --> 00:28:12.560 - functionality user friendliness and keeping it up to date 00:28:12.560 --> 00:28:14.560 - So that was something we knew we wanted to focus on 00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:19.150 - We also knew we wanted to draw more attention to some of the native plants native pollinators how 00:28:19.150 --> 00:28:20.400 - they work together to promote 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.560 - Biodiversity in Bloomington and so in order to do that 00:28:23.560 --> 00:28:28.560 - We focused our eco heroes theme for 2025 around the concept of native insects 00:28:28.560 --> 00:28:34.940 - We created some additional materials for our tabling that had to do with insects in Bloomington and 00:28:34.940 --> 00:28:35.680 - also 00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:39.980 - Have been pursuing a bee city status on behalf of the city of Bloomington 00:28:39.980 --> 00:28:44.520 - So it's something that we're continuing to work on and as I'll mention here for the year to come 00:28:44.800 --> 00:28:49.320 - We've also been doing some bigger steps in the progress for the habitat connectivity map 00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:52.920 - We also love outreach and 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:57.470 - Activities with the community part of what we try to do is stay visible to the community because 00:28:57.470 --> 00:28:59.460 - Bloomington does have an incredible 00:28:59.460 --> 00:29:04.370 - Natural space our air our water our land use are all really and and the biodiversity of our city 00:29:04.370 --> 00:29:05.760 - are all really important 00:29:05.760 --> 00:29:09.680 - Aspects of who we are as a city and what makes us so special and so we want to make sure that 00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:14.720 - Our city knows that not only can you talk to us about what's going on or raise your concerns 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.930 - But we'd love to have more commissioners join us and participate. So for those listening, we are 00:29:18.930 --> 00:29:19.440 - welcoming 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:24.520 - Applications to join the Commission, but here you can see a few activities. We participated in we 00:29:24.520 --> 00:29:27.320 - always table at the IU bugfest 00:29:27.320 --> 00:29:31.200 - We had an entomologist on our Commission for a few years and that was really wonderful having her 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:31.820 - expertise 00:29:31.820 --> 00:29:35.400 - We attended the Grandview STEM night at Grandview elementary 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:40.000 - Which was our opportunity to talk about how the technology of using the habitat connectivity map 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.400 - can help you connect with and understand your local 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:46.280 - Environment and then of course, we have our annual eco heroes event 00:29:46.280 --> 00:29:51.840 - Last year, the theme was drops to drain and focused on Bloomington stormwater 00:29:51.840 --> 00:29:57.960 - We had over 30 submissions from young children to adults that talked about how to ensure 00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:03.920 - quality stormwater how we can all take steps to positively affect that or to 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.840 - Mitigate any hazards that might be impacting our local stormwater 00:30:06.840 --> 00:30:10.980 - That was something that we connected with the city of Bloomington utilities department put together 00:30:10.980 --> 00:30:11.760 - materials 00:30:11.760 --> 00:30:16.880 - So that educators could talk to their students about it and with 20 different sponsors bringing in 00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:21.340 - prizes and in different forms of support we were able to 00:30:21.340 --> 00:30:27.450 - Participate in the earth week event at switch our park last spring where the mayor congratulated 00:30:27.450 --> 00:30:28.520 - all the different winners 00:30:28.520 --> 00:30:31.280 - always a really good time and 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:36.490 - Then along with our other kinds of outreach something that we really want to make sure we're doing 00:30:36.490 --> 00:30:39.040 - is connecting with folks beyond our commission 00:30:39.040 --> 00:30:42.880 - Both other organizations individuals commissions boards in the city 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:47.560 - And so as I mentioned one of the things that we are prioritizing this year and that we really 00:30:47.560 --> 00:30:49.840 - kicked off last year was pursuing a B 00:30:49.840 --> 00:30:51.080 - City status 00:30:51.080 --> 00:30:54.440 - That's something that we collaborate with the Parks Department for that's something that I use 00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:56.060 - office of sustainability 00:30:56.060 --> 00:30:59.540 - Worked with us on as well as they pursued the B campus status 00:31:00.040 --> 00:31:02.440 - we also have the the 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:09.510 - Invitation to speak up for organizations or businesses or individuals who are doing things to 00:31:09.510 --> 00:31:12.040 - positively impact the environment of Bloomington 00:31:12.040 --> 00:31:17.440 - And so we wrote a letter of support for a variance that was requested by an urban farm with an 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:18.420 - educational program 00:31:18.420 --> 00:31:23.140 - We support a local organization that is getting its footing and saying we are trying to make Bloomington 00:31:23.140 --> 00:31:25.080 - more sustainable and protect our environment 00:31:25.080 --> 00:31:29.320 - and we say that sounds good we'd love for you to continue that conversation with council with the 00:31:29.320 --> 00:31:30.400 - mayor in the city and 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:35.660 - Then also weighing in on how land is used and what considerations are being put into place as we 00:31:35.660 --> 00:31:37.000 - were developing a city 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.000 - That is so special. It has so many 00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:43.240 - Environmental details to it that we really want to consider in that progress 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:52.320 - We also wanted to make sure that we are working with the city's own climate plan as you know, that's 00:31:53.080 --> 00:31:55.140 - The climate action plan is something that's been in place 00:31:55.140 --> 00:31:59.320 - So we of course we're excited to participate in weighing in on thoughts on how that's coming 00:31:59.320 --> 00:31:59.640 - together 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:05.240 - Including having it Sean Mia come and talk to us about the plan as well as the climate dashboard 00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:10.210 - Which is a way for us to bridge what the city is doing and the different boards commissions and 00:32:10.210 --> 00:32:10.640 - departments 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.600 - With the community who might be interested in knowing what's happening with their air their water 00:32:15.600 --> 00:32:16.560 - their land use 00:32:16.560 --> 00:32:21.660 - So we were very excited to be part of those conversations and make sure we are sharing our support 00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:22.200 - and ideas 00:32:22.760 --> 00:32:28.740 - And also helped with some of the installation of the technology used to gather data about the air 00:32:28.740 --> 00:32:30.480 - quality as the surveys were taking 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.480 - place last summer and 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.280 - Lastly we were trying to get creative with what we might do. So we did some different things this 00:32:37.280 --> 00:32:37.520 - year 00:32:37.520 --> 00:32:40.360 - We had interviews with WFHB. We 00:32:40.360 --> 00:32:44.960 - Were on a local podcast. We there was an article in D square 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:49.710 - And we also submitted some op-eds about some of the house bills that were taking place that were of 00:32:49.710 --> 00:32:51.320 - concern to the environment as well 00:32:51.520 --> 00:32:55.270 - So like I said, we're trying to make sure that we are reaching out to the community and we continue 00:32:55.270 --> 00:32:56.760 - to prioritize that in the years 00:32:56.760 --> 00:32:58.760 - to come 00:32:58.760 --> 00:33:03.140 - Speaking of the years to come one of the things that we did this year was talk about our long-term 00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:08.280 - Priorities and what we identified is that we've got kind of two buckets that keep coming up for us 00:33:08.280 --> 00:33:12.400 - One is making sure that we as a commission are working efficiently that our 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:17.080 - Onboarding process that our presence out in the public are all really mindful 00:33:17.080 --> 00:33:23.040 - They reflect who we are as a commission today and that they are effectively building bonds bridges 00:33:23.040 --> 00:33:24.640 - connections with our community 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.690 - So that's something that we've we've definitely want to make sure that we are keeping our finger on 00:33:27.690 --> 00:33:29.720 - in the years to come and then also 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.520 - Continuing to grow and reach out to others in the in the future 00:33:34.520 --> 00:33:38.520 - so that means having workshops whether led by EC members or 00:33:38.520 --> 00:33:42.640 - Inviting in guests to teach us more about the things that we are weighing in on or that we're 00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:43.120 - curious about 00:33:43.120 --> 00:33:46.160 - Just continuing that education between our group 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:52.400 - The the community and the larger environment. We also as you know published an air quality reports 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:56.820 - We're currently working on one of those for the water quality and working with some larger data 00:33:56.820 --> 00:33:59.480 - sets from IDEM and working with the utilities 00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:01.480 - Department to make sure that that reflects 00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:05.890 - Accurately where we are as a city with our water quality and what our recommendations may be on 00:34:05.890 --> 00:34:06.720 - various levels 00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.920 - we also have a lot of interest in supporting some of the 00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:17.580 - Changing regulations for how the city operates and so one of the things that we talked about was as 00:34:17.580 --> 00:34:18.040 - we are 00:34:18.040 --> 00:34:23.470 - Shifting some of the language around riparian buffer measurement making sure that if that we as a 00:34:23.470 --> 00:34:25.880 - water quality subcommittee on the EC 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:29.640 - Are able to help support that and say can we potentially put together a way to? 00:34:29.640 --> 00:34:34.860 - Contribute to a stream inventory to ensure that we are keeping our eye on how this is working or is 00:34:34.860 --> 00:34:35.800 - it not working? 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:40.480 - What conversations can we help facilitate and then also like I mentioned city? 00:34:40.680 --> 00:34:45.640 - Certifications like be city and then also expanding into the world of if there are grants or 00:34:45.640 --> 00:34:46.360 - funding available 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:51.800 - For some of these projects that may require experts beyond our skills or time that our commissioners 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.600 - Just don't have that we can bring in further support 00:34:54.600 --> 00:34:57.410 - So that's something we haven't really done a lot of in the past and we're excited to do it in the 00:34:57.410 --> 00:34:57.760 - future 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:03.720 - I'm not gonna go through this whole slide. There's lots of words on it and it is in the packet 00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:05.760 - So feel free to take a look at it 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.800 - But these are the things that we said in 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:12.720 - 2025 we really want to do this stuff and this as you can see covers a lot of ground and in 00:35:12.720 --> 00:35:14.080 - parentheses after each point 00:35:14.080 --> 00:35:17.060 - Is sort of the subcommittee the working group that would be 00:35:17.060 --> 00:35:21.980 - Hosting that conversation or that initiative when it comes to admin that is really working closely 00:35:21.980 --> 00:35:23.040 - with our liaison just as 00:35:23.040 --> 00:35:27.790 - Some of it is a little bit more formal, but the water quality working group is a is one that's on 00:35:27.790 --> 00:35:28.080 - here 00:35:28.080 --> 00:35:31.740 - The eco heroes of course is always going to be on there 00:35:31.740 --> 00:35:37.780 - But we also introduced a light pollution working group because we do know that that does influence 00:35:37.780 --> 00:35:39.400 - migration habits. It does influence 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.440 - Just the general biodiversity capabilities of our city and as our city is growing and changing 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:48.840 - That is a responsibility that we want to make sure that we are thinking about so that's something 00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:50.800 - that's new that we're launching this year. I 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:58.840 - Wanted to take a moment to share what is going well for the EC and also where are we facing 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.640 - challenges because that's the reality of 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.400 - Being on a group of this this nature as well 00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:08.860 - What's going well is that we're as you heard doing a lot of collaborating with different partners 00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:10.320 - different members of the community and that's 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.140 - Fantastic. That's the goal is to be a bridge across our different communities and what we're 00:36:15.140 --> 00:36:16.800 - capable of building together 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:21.920 - Some of the things that we've been working on have been long thought projects. You've heard me talk 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.520 - about the Habitat connectivity plan 00:36:23.520 --> 00:36:25.800 - we have different reports that we've worked on over the years and 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:30.480 - Our Commission is still really enthusiastic about that and we're eager to share that with you all 00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:35.230 - When it comes to working with the Bloomington community, whether it's tabling whether it's having 00:36:35.230 --> 00:36:36.200 - different events 00:36:36.200 --> 00:36:40.260 - That's something that means a lot to us to have them chime in and say that's really cool. I didn't 00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:41.480 - know that that's something 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:45.480 - I'll try and so having that feedback feels really good and is another way for us to 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:50.400 - revisit what is working well and what we enjoy doing to contribute to the city and 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:55.630 - Then staying active in the in the city. We're continuously looking for opportunities to be out in 00:36:55.630 --> 00:36:56.480 - the community 00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.920 - Obviously, we all have lots of different time commitments and things like that, but the enthusiasm 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.000 - is there and we do try to make good 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.080 - Choices about how we can be present for the city 00:37:04.080 --> 00:37:08.760 - Now when it comes to the challenges for 2025 00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.000 - Unfortunately, some of these are a little bit out of our hands 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.240 - But some of them are our areas that we are looking for solutions to 00:37:15.240 --> 00:37:20.420 - The first one is the hardest one and it is complex and inefficient changes to communication in the 00:37:20.420 --> 00:37:22.440 - last year. So we have 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.520 - We understand that there are some interpretations of the open-door laws that are changing how our 00:37:27.520 --> 00:37:29.520 - commission communicates with each other 00:37:29.520 --> 00:37:36.080 - I would say that is the hardest thing for us to navigate considering that our Commission is 00:37:36.080 --> 00:37:37.840 - voluntary 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.600 - Many of us have full-time jobs are in class have children have 00:37:42.600 --> 00:37:48.880 - Responsibilities that really limit how much time we can put into the way that we operate for the EC 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:50.840 - despite being very passionate about it 00:37:51.600 --> 00:37:56.200 - What we have learned is that because of the the way that we need to interpret these laws 00:37:56.200 --> 00:37:58.920 - We cannot communicate with each other directly by email 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:04.120 - We need to go through our liaison in any communication that has to do with EC besides 00:38:04.120 --> 00:38:06.600 - I believe it's besides maybe setting up meeting 00:38:06.600 --> 00:38:11.880 - Or talking about things that are not EC related like I got a new car. Where did you get it kind of 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:12.200 - thing? 00:38:12.200 --> 00:38:17.170 - but if we're talking about the EC is our understanding that and when I am putting together the list 00:38:17.170 --> 00:38:18.080 - for sponsors for the 00:38:18.200 --> 00:38:22.840 - Hero's event. For example, I cannot communicate directly with the rest of the subcommittee 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:27.400 - Via email without going through our conduit through the city 00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.840 - The alternative to that and so that makes it really hard 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.450 - It takes away our liaisons time to do her full-time job, which I very much respect and and 00:38:36.450 --> 00:38:38.320 - understand that that is the priority 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:43.760 - The alternative is for us to be meeting face-to-face to have these conversations 00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:49.570 - That in and of itself requires advance notice reserving a location specifically a public location 00:38:49.570 --> 00:38:52.080 - where we can publicly note that we are gathering 00:38:52.080 --> 00:38:58.190 - One of the one of the things about the Commission that I'm fully aware of is the privilege it takes 00:38:58.190 --> 00:38:59.080 - to be able to be on 00:38:59.080 --> 00:39:04.400 - The Commission it's voluntary and it is something that requires time outside of whatever your other 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:05.360 - responsibilities are 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:09.940 - Where there's a limit to how many virtual meetings you can attend and so being able to be flexible 00:39:09.940 --> 00:39:11.880 - in your work in your responsibilities in your 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:17.760 - Caregiving to be in these meetings is something that takes privilege and I would hate to see an 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:18.660 - inequitable 00:39:18.660 --> 00:39:25.490 - Leaning towards folks who are able to have those circumstances versus those who maybe don't have 00:39:25.490 --> 00:39:27.880 - the flexibility and could communicate via email 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:33.120 - But we're no longer able to in a way that is efficient or effective for us. It's not impossible, 00:39:33.120 --> 00:39:34.520 - but it sure makes it hard 00:39:34.520 --> 00:39:37.320 - So that is something that we've been dealing with 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:43.940 - It's been very difficult and we are working hard to not diminish the enthusiasm for our Commission 00:39:43.940 --> 00:39:49.140 - But it slows down that beautiful list of goals we have for the year that incredible list of three 00:39:49.140 --> 00:39:49.700 - to five year 00:39:49.700 --> 00:39:53.980 - Priorities that we have we are compassionate about it, but it is very hard. That is a major 00:39:53.980 --> 00:39:54.880 - challenge for us 00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:00.640 - Right now things are difficult in the United States and folks are 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:07.000 - Torn in a lot of different directions energies are low spirits are compromised because of what is 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.520 - happening across funding across 00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:12.640 - protections for individuals across the way that we treat each other 00:40:12.640 --> 00:40:17.680 - general engagement right now is low across a lot of different volunteer and 00:40:17.680 --> 00:40:23.130 - Selective activities we understand that so when it comes to eco heroes when it comes to people 00:40:23.130 --> 00:40:24.040 - coming up to our table 00:40:24.040 --> 00:40:27.790 - We know that we're not we may not see the same level of enthusiasm that we would have a few years 00:40:27.790 --> 00:40:27.960 - ago 00:40:28.080 --> 00:40:32.600 - That's a challenge because we love to keep people excited, but we understand that right now 00:40:32.600 --> 00:40:35.480 - Maybe maybe engagement is not going to be as strong as it was in the past 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.120 - We currently have some vacancies on the EC 00:40:38.120 --> 00:40:42.240 - We're so excited about our new commissioners that have joined us in the last several months 00:40:42.240 --> 00:40:46.550 - But we still have some vacancies that spreads the work a little bit more thinly between the group 00:40:46.550 --> 00:40:47.360 - that we do have 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:49.320 - So that's a challenge that we have from time to time 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:53.180 - But the folks we have now are very committed and working on lots of different things. That's really 00:40:53.180 --> 00:40:53.460 - exciting 00:40:53.460 --> 00:40:58.280 - And then lastly there's some changing legislation at the state and federal level that impacts 00:40:58.280 --> 00:40:58.920 - impacts 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:03.000 - the the things that we talk about the work that we try to do and some of them are 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:08.300 - About funding some of them are about protections for things like wetlands that really are 00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:11.320 - that that are 00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:17.150 - Damaging to our larger environmental safety for our state for our city for our country and our 00:41:17.150 --> 00:41:17.600 - planet 00:41:17.600 --> 00:41:20.640 - And so that's something that when we're working through what our priorities are 00:41:21.240 --> 00:41:26.580 - We we understand that that will be impacting what we do. So a challenge for sure 00:41:26.580 --> 00:41:32.020 - But last time I was here you asked me what you could do to help and I really appreciated that 00:41:32.020 --> 00:41:33.320 - question then and I came 00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:36.280 - Even more prepared this time. So how can you help? 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.840 - beautiful council folks 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.320 - First things first when it comes to processes 00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:46.360 - We like I said, we just got a bunch of new commissioners really appreciate that and as you know 00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:51.320 - The speed with which we can get interviews and get new commissioners is always helpful. So in the 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.180 - as we're able to get new commissioners on 00:41:53.180 --> 00:41:55.760 - We appreciate your expediency in that process 00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:02.140 - Also when there are things that we might need to have your input on or your approval for just being 00:42:02.140 --> 00:42:03.520 - able to communicate clearly about 00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:07.400 - What that process needs to to be I know that when it comes to be city, for example 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:11.300 - That's something we've been communicating a lot about so clarity there is really helpful and that's 00:42:11.300 --> 00:42:14.120 - just something that that will continue to work together 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.920 - Like I said, we have a be city certification initiative that we are putting together 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.200 - It is not yet at resolution stage, but it is making its way there 00:42:23.200 --> 00:42:28.000 - So that's something to be aware of and as I mentioned we have a new subcommittee for light 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:28.800 - pollution 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:33.520 - And so one of the things we're thinking about doesn't make sense for us to pursue a dark spot dark 00:42:33.520 --> 00:42:34.100 - sky place 00:42:34.100 --> 00:42:38.560 - Certification it may it may not but that's something that may be a conversation that we're hoping 00:42:38.560 --> 00:42:39.020 - to have or 00:42:39.020 --> 00:42:41.560 - Some input that we're looking for from our council 00:42:41.560 --> 00:42:44.520 - the 00:42:44.520 --> 00:42:47.280 - So I mentioned how difficult communication is for us 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:49.280 - And I would love to have a solution 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:54.950 - The only solution that I have and I'm open to hearing other ideas from from folks on the council or 00:42:54.950 --> 00:42:55.740 - what other boards or 00:42:55.740 --> 00:42:57.740 - Commissions have done to to bridge this gap 00:42:57.740 --> 00:43:01.840 - One of the issues that we have in our email communication is that we are all private 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:06.530 - Residents and we're just using our personal email accounts to talk to each other and to receive the 00:43:06.530 --> 00:43:07.660 - agendas and all that 00:43:08.680 --> 00:43:13.780 - One thing that would improve our ability to communicate is if we had publicly accessible email 00:43:13.780 --> 00:43:15.960 - addresses that the city or whomever could 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:21.400 - Gain access to if they needed to for any sort of transparency if the environmental commissioners 00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:26.610 - each had commissioner email addresses through the city that would allow us to communicate directly 00:43:26.610 --> 00:43:27.440 - with each other and 00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:31.920 - Well, that's my impression that it would but I may be wrong on that 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:36.830 - but basically what I would love is if there is a way that we can create a more level of 00:43:36.830 --> 00:43:39.040 - transparency in our exchanges that 00:43:39.040 --> 00:43:41.000 - allow us to 00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:46.560 - Be able to communicate in small groups or in large groups about non voting issues 00:43:46.560 --> 00:43:49.320 - But just building out materials working through decision-making 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:54.560 - So we would love to hear any solutions for how to how to bridge that difficulty because like I said, 00:43:54.560 --> 00:43:55.260 - it's a it's a tough one 00:43:55.260 --> 00:43:59.870 - And the last thing we just invite you to join us at our meetings to bring up ideas. You have 00:43:59.870 --> 00:44:00.820 - questions things like that 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:06.500 - So that is where we're at. This is our wonderful Commission tomorrow is World Environment Day 00:44:06.500 --> 00:44:10.610 - Which is a that's meant to raise awareness about how we all engage with our environment how we can 00:44:10.610 --> 00:44:11.060 - protect it 00:44:11.060 --> 00:44:15.330 - So I invite you to celebrate that as well as honoring some of the other themes throughout the month 00:44:15.330 --> 00:44:16.840 - and throughout the days to come 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.480 - But thank you. Thank you for letting me share 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.600 - Thank you for letting me use all my time and I'm happy to hear your questions 00:44:22.600 --> 00:44:25.920 - We have some folks from the Commission here, too. But again, thank you 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.960 - Great. Thank you 00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:34.520 - I'll ask are there councilmember questions and then acknowledge that I'm pretty sure that councilmember 00:44:34.520 --> 00:44:37.640 - Rollo online has a question if we want to bring the 00:44:37.640 --> 00:44:45.720 - Presentation down and there we go. Councilmember Rollo. Go ahead. Yeah. Thank you 00:44:45.720 --> 00:44:48.900 - Thank you 00:44:48.900 --> 00:44:52.760 - Chair Commissioner Albright. I really appreciate your presentation. I 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:56.280 - was once on the environmental Commission, but I 00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.780 - Joined about 30 years ago when Mike Litwin did actually 00:44:59.780 --> 00:45:04.360 - and I have a great deal of respect for you and your commissioners and 00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:09.960 - The role you play all commissions are important. You have a very unique role very important role 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:14.400 - I'll commit to working on the communication problem 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:20.320 - I think it's absolutely essential that you be able to do your work and communicate amongst each 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:20.680 - other 00:45:20.680 --> 00:45:23.440 - for the environment of Bloomington 00:45:23.680 --> 00:45:29.600 - But I had a question about I I read in the in the report that the ECPC 00:45:29.600 --> 00:45:32.040 - Otherwise known as the Environmental Commission 00:45:32.040 --> 00:45:34.840 - planning committee 00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:39.560 - Issued a just a single report this year and is not anticipating 00:45:39.560 --> 00:45:42.760 - further reports 00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:48.230 - Could you explain why that that is the case sure and I might invite our liaison to talk to that a 00:45:48.230 --> 00:45:49.040 - little bit more but 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:56.280 - Two different there are two different parts to that one is the the change in the need for those memos 00:45:56.280 --> 00:46:00.990 - simply because so much about the city ordinances have changed over the years where the protections 00:46:00.990 --> 00:46:01.360 - and the 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:05.600 - memos may not be as necessary because those those 00:46:05.600 --> 00:46:10.680 - Requirements are built in so that's the good news, but I think the other piece is just 00:46:10.680 --> 00:46:17.480 - understanding that if there is a development or a variance that would need that warrants some 00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:18.280 - environmental 00:46:19.040 --> 00:46:23.750 - Reflection that that would be shared with us, but that it won't be in the same the same way that 00:46:23.750 --> 00:46:25.520 - was so actively done in the past 00:46:25.520 --> 00:46:28.720 - They're just the previous structure of the role 00:46:28.720 --> 00:46:31.960 - Are your is your liaison? 00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:36.780 - Making reports to you regarding development proposals 00:46:36.780 --> 00:46:43.800 - It's our understanding that that will be when relevant or necessary, but we do not have a currently 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:44.960 - convening ECPC 00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:46.520 - that's not something that has 00:46:46.520 --> 00:46:47.640 - that 00:46:47.640 --> 00:46:51.560 - It it does not sound that that is something that we should expect to see in the future 00:46:51.560 --> 00:46:57.800 - unless it's an extending circumstance and is your return is your intern is it I 00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.200 - understand they're moving to 00:47:00.200 --> 00:47:05.160 - Planning and transportation are they are they are you getting another to intern for your purposes? 00:47:05.160 --> 00:47:09.960 - I it's my understanding that the intern is not supporting the EC specifically 00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:11.960 - moving forward 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:16.460 - So that's also been a change for us because that you in historically the intern has been pretty 00:47:16.460 --> 00:47:16.880 - involved 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:19.760 - Okay, well I 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:26.000 - You know, I I think the ECPC is my opinion is a very important committee 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:29.000 - that would objectively scrutinize 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.840 - development proposals and 00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:37.480 - producing memos for the Planning Commission and for the council in the past and 00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.000 - I 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.480 - Think many of those memos have been used 00:47:44.040 --> 00:47:48.320 - Sometimes as conditions of approval sometimes for to improve the 00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:51.560 - petition itself 00:47:51.560 --> 00:47:54.000 - including site inspections of 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.640 - environmental commission members and 00:47:56.640 --> 00:48:00.800 - you know, this has been important for water quality and tree preservation and 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.880 - habitat and climate and all sorts of things 00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:07.280 - So I'm a little 00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.160 - dismayed that this is this is a development because 00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:18.660 - I mean these these these measures were big steps forward and the ECPC 00:48:18.660 --> 00:48:23.360 - memory service has been in existence for about 25 years and 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:30.440 - You know the report the regular reports of the environmental planner or in this case the liaison 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.360 - happened at every meeting 00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:41.040 - For about 30 years and I think the EC has a very important role to play in that regard so 00:48:41.720 --> 00:48:45.920 - I guess I'll just say that I appreciate you telling me 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:52.680 - A bit about it. I'd like to explore that further. So I'll probably be attending your meetings and 00:48:52.680 --> 00:48:53.600 - speaking to 00:48:53.600 --> 00:48:56.880 - the planning and transportation staff 00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:59.280 - about this I 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:00.520 - Really appreciate that 00:49:00.520 --> 00:49:04.180 - There's a lot of interest from the commissioners in the ECPC staying in existence and being 00:49:04.180 --> 00:49:06.360 - something that we are actively participating in 00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:12.330 - So there's a lot of interest and so I welcome your visit to our meeting and any conversations that 00:49:12.330 --> 00:49:12.880 - come from them 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.680 - Thank you so much 00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:19.520 - Great. Thank you. We've actually used up our whole report time right now 00:49:19.520 --> 00:49:23.840 - So I'm gonna go ahead and extend just for five minutes right now for additional questions about the 00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:25.640 - Environmental Commission report and then 00:49:25.640 --> 00:49:30.480 - Extend further for the other reports. So do other council members have any questions? 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:33.560 - can't remember Piedmont Smith 00:49:35.080 --> 00:49:40.320 - Yeah, I just wanted to first of all say that I agree with councilmember Rallo that I'm concerned 00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:40.900 - that the 00:49:40.900 --> 00:49:45.380 - Development petitions are no longer coming to the EC as a matter of course 00:49:45.380 --> 00:49:50.480 - But my question is so in your written report 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:55.200 - You noted that there's liaisons who attend other 00:49:55.200 --> 00:49:59.160 - government entities like because friends of Lake Monroe, etc 00:49:59.160 --> 00:50:01.520 - and the 00:50:01.520 --> 00:50:04.600 - MC Iris the invasive species group 00:50:05.240 --> 00:50:09.680 - It says Linda Thompson was the liaison to that. Is that so is that something Rachel? 00:50:09.680 --> 00:50:14.720 - Johnson is now doing yeah, I would say that she attends majority of them. Yep. Okay. Yeah. Thank 00:50:14.720 --> 00:50:16.800 - you. Good catch 2024 was the 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:23.180 - Thank you, are there other questions from council members council members who look I just have some 00:50:23.180 --> 00:50:25.560 - clarification about open-door law 00:50:25.560 --> 00:50:29.800 - So that's that's at the state level and so that's really not something that we can impact 00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:35.680 - But even even federal or even government emails are subject to open-door law and so like we in our 00:50:35.680 --> 00:50:39.520 - Government emails operate under the same way that members of the EC 00:50:39.520 --> 00:50:46.560 - Operate under their personal emails and so offering different emails would not solve the problem 00:50:46.560 --> 00:50:52.000 - May I ask if there is a solution that you all have besides gathering in these meetings to know 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:59.120 - Yeah, I mean I appreciate that 00:50:59.640 --> 00:51:01.480 - Yeah 00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:03.480 - other questions 00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:08.880 - Councilmember Rosemary, it's just answering your question. Thank you for being here 00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:13.040 - I actually was just giving a I was 65 page 00:51:13.040 --> 00:51:18.480 - presentation about open-door law with FAQs like there is there are like you don't have to meet to 00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:20.480 - do every single thing, okay, so 00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:25.440 - you can work on draft documents via email or 00:51:26.520 --> 00:51:30.320 - In Google Drive as long as like everybody isn't in there at the same exact time 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:35.200 - So but we can talk about it or I mean it doesn't have to be so inefficient 00:51:35.200 --> 00:51:41.060 - There I think there are some like major misunderstandings about what can and cannot get done that 00:51:41.060 --> 00:51:42.380 - has slowed things down 00:51:42.380 --> 00:51:44.840 - this term but 00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:49.880 - We can work on it. Thank you. I really appreciate that. That sounds like a great improvement 00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:50.520 - already 00:51:50.520 --> 00:51:54.360 - Other questions 00:51:55.260 --> 00:52:01.080 - Okay, great. Thank you so much. I really appreciate your presentation 00:52:01.080 --> 00:52:07.000 - Our next report is planning and transportation department and 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:11.400 - Let's go ahead 00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:18.280 - Director Hittle, do you know how long your presentation is gonna be roughly? Oh 00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:24.160 - Ten minutes or less. Okay, great. Let's go ahead and 00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:25.520 - and 00:52:25.520 --> 00:52:26.840 - Give us 00:52:26.840 --> 00:52:31.920 - Maybe 15 minutes from now and then I'll extend again for the tax abatement 00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:36.720 - Thank you. If you want to officially introduce yourself for the record, that'd be great. Thank you 00:52:36.720 --> 00:52:40.620 - David Hill director of the Department of Planning and Transportation. Good evening. Thank you 00:52:40.620 --> 00:52:43.680 - President Stossberg for the invitation to speak tonight 00:52:43.680 --> 00:52:51.600 - So I'm here to talk about potential UDO amendments relative specifically to housing attainability 00:52:52.720 --> 00:52:56.500 - If you'll recall in March of this year council members 00:52:56.500 --> 00:53:01.400 - Flaherty and Rosenberger both brought resolutions to the council 00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:07.440 - Which if approved would have directed my department to craft UDO amendment language 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:10.480 - pertaining to a variety of things among them 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:16.500 - minimum parking requirements accessory dwelling units required lot size plexus sustainable building 00:53:16.500 --> 00:53:17.960 - practices and a few others 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:24.940 - Those resolutions did not advance but I think that there was clear value in the ideas brought to 00:53:24.940 --> 00:53:25.540 - the table 00:53:25.540 --> 00:53:32.320 - my sense in speaking with counselors and with the mayor and the mayor's administration and my 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:34.060 - department in the time afterward is that there's 00:53:34.060 --> 00:53:40.620 - Consensus on that fact and that there is good merit and a good reason to continue continue to 00:53:40.620 --> 00:53:41.240 - explore 00:53:41.240 --> 00:53:43.560 - those ideas 00:53:44.200 --> 00:53:50.380 - The the addition is that that should be done with a rigorous public vetting a public process with 00:53:50.380 --> 00:53:51.760 - public engagement 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:58.120 - And that there should be a very close look at how those ideas if implemented might impact Bloomington 00:53:58.120 --> 00:53:58.840 - specifically 00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:07.450 - Those are those are tasks that are not necessarily within the wheelhouse of the council, you know 00:54:07.450 --> 00:54:07.800 - large 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:11.000 - public engagement campaigns and 00:54:12.520 --> 00:54:18.770 - Sort of really directed focused longer-term research. So that's what we do and then that's why we're 00:54:18.770 --> 00:54:19.760 - here tonight to talk about 00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.320 - these particular 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:26.760 - Amendments amendments like them and in general policy involving attainable housing 00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:32.480 - So the issue that I think those particular amendments we're seeking to address is 00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:37.600 - Bloomington's lack of attainable housing not a problem. That's unique to Bloomington. In fact, it's 00:54:37.600 --> 00:54:38.800 - pretty common anywhere 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:40.800 - You have a place where people want to live 00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:47.090 - But as we considered it and talked about it, we thought that in addition to those particular 00:54:47.090 --> 00:54:49.720 - proposed UDO amendments 00:54:49.720 --> 00:54:54.120 - Which were really not at the time proposed amendments 00:54:54.120 --> 00:54:57.300 - They were a directive to craft proposed amendments 00:54:57.300 --> 00:55:01.760 - But in addition to those UDO amendments those ideas there are additional ideas 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:05.460 - I think in the UDO that merit consideration and even beyond the UDO 00:55:05.460 --> 00:55:10.450 - housing policy that the city's involved with that I think should be and could be looked at to 00:55:10.450 --> 00:55:12.000 - increase our opportunity to 00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:13.480 - to 00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:15.480 - to find a way towards 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:21.800 - Attainable housing so we have a project and that's this to look at how we can 00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.600 - Refine 00:55:25.600 --> 00:55:32.440 - Modify amend our housing policies to be able to to work towards attainable housing 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:38.000 - That project has a purpose that project has a timeline 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.600 - Which I think at this where I stand right now is probably taking us to the end of the year 00:55:42.600 --> 00:55:47.860 - It's maybe a little bit ambitious it may leak into January, but I would say that but if we're 00:55:47.860 --> 00:55:48.540 - looking at 00:55:48.540 --> 00:55:50.600 - deliverables being 00:55:50.600 --> 00:55:54.580 - Language to be brought to the Planning Commission and then ultimately to the to the council 00:55:54.580 --> 00:55:59.710 - I'd like to get that on the agenda for the Planning Commission for their January meeting most most 00:55:59.710 --> 00:56:00.220 - likely 00:56:00.220 --> 00:56:04.000 - So that it would be completed essentially by the end of the year 00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:09.320 - And that project has a scope which is limited it is limited in that 00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:16.440 - There are lots of factors that dictate whether housing is attainable. There is land land scarcity 00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:17.360 - availability 00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:22.560 - There's workforce availability. There's the lending climate. There's the market. There's 00:56:22.560 --> 00:56:27.800 - Workforce and there's the law and here we're looking at just one of those things 00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:31.200 - That's the law the regulatory framework, which in this case is the UDO 00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:37.280 - So it's it's it's impacting one of many things that has an impact on housing attainability 00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:42.890 - But it's the one thing that we have total control over in terms of the people in this room the 00:56:42.890 --> 00:56:44.680 - mayor's administration as well 00:56:44.680 --> 00:56:51.240 - But the UDO is written and maintained and modified and changed solely by this group 00:56:51.240 --> 00:56:54.120 - So that is the thing that you have control over 00:56:54.120 --> 00:57:00.040 - It's also limited in that we're just looking at residential typologies here 00:57:00.040 --> 00:57:04.920 - We're not looking at commercial elements of the ordinance or institutional elements or things along 00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:05.600 - those lines 00:57:05.600 --> 00:57:11.810 - It's very strictly and sort of surgically focused on residential typologies. So this is no overhaul 00:57:11.810 --> 00:57:12.520 - of the UDO 00:57:12.520 --> 00:57:15.200 - This is a more focused look 00:57:15.200 --> 00:57:17.800 - That would be proposed 00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:20.200 - Project also has a toolkit 00:57:20.200 --> 00:57:24.720 - And I kind of use that term a little bit advisably 00:57:24.720 --> 00:57:27.640 - It's we're not coming in really with a prescriptive focus 00:57:27.640 --> 00:57:32.700 - but more initially especially with a listening focus with regards to public engagement a 00:57:32.700 --> 00:57:37.920 - Lot of the good ideas that happen in the world of planning come from outside the world of planning 00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:43.680 - And I think that if we kind of go into these sessions with the public listening and wanting to hear 00:57:43.680 --> 00:57:44.920 - their ideas about 00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:50.340 - Attainable housing their ideas about what will work in their neighborhood. What will maybe work in 00:57:50.340 --> 00:57:51.360 - their neighborhood? 00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:55.440 - What will work in their neighborhood with modifications? Those are very valuable things to hear 00:57:55.640 --> 00:57:59.600 - So we're kind of going into it with more of a listening approach 00:57:59.600 --> 00:58:07.290 - Anyway that that toolkit will include a lot of the things that council members Flaherty and Rosenberger 00:58:07.290 --> 00:58:08.960 - had on their list at the beginning 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:10.960 - So we're looking at lot dimensions 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.120 - cottage development regulations 00:58:13.120 --> 00:58:17.920 - Modestly scaled which is also known as missing middle or general density housing 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:24.600 - Which includes ADU's and duplexes triplexes fourplexes on-site parking requirements would be looked 00:58:24.600 --> 00:58:24.720 - at 00:58:24.720 --> 00:58:28.720 - But we'd also be looking at I think other things that are in the UDO 00:58:28.720 --> 00:58:33.240 - But also outside of the UDO such as short-term rental Airbnb regulations 00:58:33.240 --> 00:58:38.100 - that those occupy a pretty good amount of the housing stock in Bloomington right now and those 00:58:38.100 --> 00:58:40.200 - obviously are not for long-term residents 00:58:40.200 --> 00:58:46.960 - State law does preempt a lot of a local jurisdiction's ability to regulate short-term rentals 00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:52.520 - But there are areas where we can exert a little bit of influence on how those those act we can 00:58:52.520 --> 00:58:53.520 - create a registry 00:58:54.080 --> 00:59:00.320 - We can create the need for approval by the Board of Zoning Appeals and under certain circumstances 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:06.900 - Those are things that the city has not availed themselves of as of the the preemptive law when it 00:59:06.900 --> 00:59:07.800 - was enacted in 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:13.720 - 2018 so those are things we can look at other things that that that Indiana cities are doing is 00:59:13.720 --> 00:59:15.640 - putting rental caps on 00:59:15.640 --> 00:59:17.080 - subdivisions 00:59:17.080 --> 00:59:21.000 - Not necessarily something that that looks like a great idea off the top of my head 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:26.540 - But in the spirit of going into this thing and in listening mode and as a potential tool in the 00:59:26.540 --> 00:59:27.240 - toolkit 00:59:27.240 --> 00:59:29.240 - You know, I think that we need to look at all these ideas 00:59:29.240 --> 00:59:35.000 - Further down the line 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:39.360 - One of the things that we can we can look at this is probably next year of the year after is 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:44.320 - The opportunity if such exists for certain building code modifications 00:59:45.720 --> 00:59:52.080 - Though those those are conveyed essentially at the state level but we're seeing that cities 00:59:52.080 --> 00:59:56.660 - Working with states across the country even in some circumstances with red states 00:59:56.660 --> 01:00:02.900 - Are enacting building mode building code modifications that make certain types of housing easier to 01:00:02.900 --> 01:00:03.380 - build 01:00:03.380 --> 01:00:08.660 - Involving things like sprinkler requirements single staircase formats 01:00:08.660 --> 01:00:13.880 - We're seeing in Canada in Western Europe 01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:20.100 - The ability to build without restrictions that I think have generally be considered 01:00:20.100 --> 01:00:25.620 - I've been have come to be considered a little bit superfluous. So those are maybe long-term ideas 01:00:25.620 --> 01:00:26.880 - we could consider 01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:29.840 - finally 01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:32.480 - There's a 01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:34.560 - Possibility is to create a catalog of 01:00:34.560 --> 01:00:36.480 - pre-approved 01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.040 - in terms of building code in terms of zoning approvals 01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:46.180 - Catalog of housing typologies that would be available for free. These are construction plans to 01:00:46.180 --> 01:00:48.000 - anyone who has a desire to build 01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:50.120 - These are typically 01:00:50.120 --> 01:00:52.120 - Within the realm of missing middle housing 01:00:52.120 --> 01:00:58.200 - these kinds of programs have been put in place and in most famously in South Bend and Kalamazoo and 01:00:58.200 --> 01:01:02.400 - along a number of places in the West Coast and I think that there's 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:07.280 - Climate could be right here in a number of different ways. I think that 01:01:08.200 --> 01:01:13.470 - I'm speaking a little bit out of turn, but I think that Hopewell presents probably an opportunity 01:01:13.470 --> 01:01:15.060 - to try that as a pilot program 01:01:15.060 --> 01:01:17.720 - Which could then be used throughout the city? 01:01:17.720 --> 01:01:20.760 - So there's a lot to look at 01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:25.240 - As we do research and analysis, we'd be looking at best practices that are in place 01:01:25.240 --> 01:01:29.160 - We'd be looking at peer cities kind of the usual progressive exemplars 01:01:29.160 --> 01:01:34.450 - We'd be looking at like Austin Minneapolis Denver Boulder Seattle Portland a little bit closer to 01:01:34.450 --> 01:01:34.760 - home 01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:39.910 - We'd look at the usual Big Ten cities Ann Arbor and Madison, but I think it's also really important 01:01:39.910 --> 01:01:40.580 - to look at 01:01:40.580 --> 01:01:46.320 - Peer cities that more closely match Bloomington's town gown profile 01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:52.180 - Which is one where it's a very small city nestled against a very large university and that creates 01:01:52.180 --> 01:01:53.240 - its own set of 01:01:53.240 --> 01:01:59.520 - complications and issues that I think those are the things that resonate with people that are 01:02:00.200 --> 01:02:06.640 - Likely to come against some of these ideas in opposition to them and I think it's it's important 01:02:06.640 --> 01:02:08.840 - for us for me for my staff 01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:13.830 - for all of us who make decisions and contribute to the making of decisions not to not to look past 01:02:13.830 --> 01:02:15.280 - that but to acknowledge that and 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:17.280 - To look deeply into it. So 01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.520 - Our you know our 01:02:20.520 --> 01:02:24.600 - Ratio of full-time residents to 01:02:24.600 --> 01:02:29.200 - Student residents the student residents. It's it's almost a two-to-one 01:02:30.200 --> 01:02:34.620 - Difference which is much different than Madison much different than Arbor much different than Iowa 01:02:34.620 --> 01:02:34.960 - City 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:39.480 - It's more along the lines of some other places we can look at like Manhattan, Kansas 01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:42.300 - Like Pullman, Washington like Corvallis, Oregon 01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:48.170 - So I think if we try to focus in on where things are happening in other places that are more 01:02:48.170 --> 01:02:49.840 - similar to us we can get 01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:55.740 - Some some ideas of how these ideas if implemented would impact us 01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.260 - And those that could also go a long way towards allaying fears. I think from people as well 01:03:00.260 --> 01:03:03.680 - Public process wise 01:03:03.680 --> 01:03:06.720 - We're going to reach out to neighborhood organizations 01:03:06.720 --> 01:03:11.910 - They're about 12 to 15 registered neighborhood associations that meet predictably and reliably on a 01:03:11.910 --> 01:03:13.080 - monthly basis 01:03:13.080 --> 01:03:15.240 - And we want to get inside we want to get to them 01:03:15.240 --> 01:03:19.560 - Probably twice probably towards the beginning of the process and then again towards the end 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:25.620 - There's another dozen maybe 15 neighborhood organizations that meet less predictably and less 01:03:25.620 --> 01:03:27.240 - reliably on a regular basis 01:03:27.240 --> 01:03:32.760 - But tend to get activated when something's happening, and we want to get on their agendas as well 01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:37.230 - We want to meet to the we want to speak and meet with the development community the Chamber of 01:03:37.230 --> 01:03:38.820 - Commerce BEDC 01:03:38.820 --> 01:03:43.040 - We've already actually started conversations with Indiana University 01:03:43.040 --> 01:03:48.400 - We want to learn from them where their off-campus students live and how that has changed over time 01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:51.960 - And they're amenable to that. We they actually have asked us to 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:57.470 - Coordinate or to collaborate with them on developing a survey to be given to all of their faculty 01:03:57.470 --> 01:04:00.400 - and staff that that asks the essential questions 01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.920 - Of you know, where do you live? Do you live in Bloomington? 01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:08.650 - If you don't why not what kinds of things wouldn't would would influence your your ability to move 01:04:08.650 --> 01:04:09.640 - to Bloomington? 01:04:09.640 --> 01:04:14.800 - And we want to have those conversations. Those are they're scheduled with the school district 01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.320 - with major employers 01:04:18.120 --> 01:04:20.120 - And additional stakeholders 01:04:20.120 --> 01:04:25.180 - Specifically will utilize in-person and virtual meetings 01:04:25.180 --> 01:04:29.440 - I'd be very eager to come to council constituent meetings and 01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:32.920 - Councilmember daily already has me set up for one of those 01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:38.800 - As well as deliberative sessions and I think I'm scheduled for September for that any other 01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:43.040 - Council initiated or engaged 01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:48.630 - Gatherings where you would like this topic to be brought up and discussed. We'd be very glad to be 01:04:48.630 --> 01:04:48.920 - there 01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:52.680 - Look at targeted roundtables targeted pop-up stations 01:04:52.680 --> 01:04:57.960 - And then a little bit later on in the process will have regular office hours both virtual and in 01:04:57.960 --> 01:04:58.480 - person 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:02.280 - Where people can just drop in and ask questions about how this is going? 01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:09.600 - At projects closed as I mentioned we're going to deliver a set of policy recommendations 01:05:09.600 --> 01:05:16.170 - Most of them more than likely will be UDO amendments. Some of them might dig into other elements of 01:05:16.170 --> 01:05:16.760 - City code 01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:18.760 - And some of them will just be ideas 01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:22.360 - For policy implementation, but most of them will be UDO amendments 01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:25.480 - for the council's 01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:27.920 - perusal and consideration and review and 01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:31.000 - feedback 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:37.360 - That closes that I'll mention one thing this is a little bit peripheral but it does have to do with 01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:37.860 - with 01:05:38.560 --> 01:05:41.760 - Housing attainability and its initiative. We're about to undergo 01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:47.200 - Along with CBU City Bloomington utilities. We're going to commission a third party 01:05:47.200 --> 01:05:50.000 - external audit to help us understand 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:55.280 - Looking at our permitting processes where we can realize better efficiencies 01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:57.960 - where we can 01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:03.130 - Implement best practices that maybe we're not aware of that are in place elsewhere and hopefully 01:06:03.130 --> 01:06:04.800 - streamline the whole process 01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:09.720 - I do know that that it's a complicated process our ordinance is complicated 01:06:09.720 --> 01:06:14.960 - Requires more than most ordinances throughout the state and so to the extent that we can make that 01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:16.960 - process as painless as possible 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:20.240 - You know, those are those are that that's money time is money 01:06:20.240 --> 01:06:25.520 - And those are savings that can be passed on to the to the ultimate resident of that housing 01:06:25.520 --> 01:06:28.880 - I 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:31.000 - Think that's all I have 01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:34.360 - So I'd be happy to answer any questions 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:39.860 - Great. Thank you so much for all of that information and you actually spoke from for longer than 01:06:39.860 --> 01:06:42.040 - you thought you were going to so I'm 01:06:42.040 --> 01:06:44.360 - Gonna extend us another 10 minutes till 750 01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:48.180 - Because I'm sure that we have councilmember questions. So 01:06:48.180 --> 01:06:50.880 - councilmember is sorry 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:52.920 - Thank You director Hiddle 01:06:52.920 --> 01:06:56.760 - My questions were about the summit PUD 01:06:57.680 --> 01:07:03.870 - And if there's anything any updates that you can give us about sort of where where that is and what 01:07:03.870 --> 01:07:04.560 - we can do 01:07:04.560 --> 01:07:08.080 - There's a council to keep that in the forefront of our priorities 01:07:08.080 --> 01:07:12.820 - That's really my question as that finished its zoning 01:07:12.820 --> 01:07:14.960 - the 01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.440 - developer the principal committed to 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:20.200 - realizing a road network 01:07:20.200 --> 01:07:22.200 - to and through summit 01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:28.680 - To the to the requirements of the city engineer and those negotiations are happening right now 01:07:28.680 --> 01:07:33.380 - And as they understand they've been pretty fruitful and they're moving along and maybe they're near 01:07:33.380 --> 01:07:34.020 - conclusion 01:07:34.020 --> 01:07:37.960 - I'm not privy to that, but I think that they've gone well, and then I think that they're also 01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:40.080 - negotiating 01:07:40.080 --> 01:07:43.720 - Tiff matters with economic and sustainable development 01:07:43.720 --> 01:07:47.720 - That's pretty much. I don't know more than that. I 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:53.840 - Could find out more if you're looking for more information. I would love that. Thank you. Okay 01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:56.840 - Thank you 01:07:56.840 --> 01:07:58.840 - councillor Morello 01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:06.100 - Yes, thank you. Thank you director Hiddle you you might have been here when I was just asking easy 01:08:06.100 --> 01:08:07.920 - Commission Chair Albright about 01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:10.400 - the role of the EC 01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:16.240 - in planning processes, I I wondered could you tell me about 01:08:18.080 --> 01:08:20.080 - Your view of the EC's 01:08:20.080 --> 01:08:27.400 - input in in both development review and the UDO UDO process 01:08:27.400 --> 01:08:30.480 - Do you support the Commission and? 01:08:30.480 --> 01:08:34.760 - Various Commission's having input in the process sure 01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:41.720 - I've been here. My understanding is that is that my predecessor? 01:08:46.040 --> 01:08:51.640 - Sort of a best way to put this no longer by 01:08:51.640 --> 01:08:56.440 - Automatic extension provided 01:08:56.440 --> 01:09:00.000 - Information are requested 01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.960 - reports from the Environmental Commission for 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:08.130 - variances, you know cases going easy eight places cases going to the plant Commission maybe with 01:09:08.130 --> 01:09:10.600 - the exception of planned unit developments 01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:13.160 - or larger cases 01:09:13.160 --> 01:09:15.800 - and so that's been the 01:09:16.360 --> 01:09:20.880 - Policy if you will since since I was here. I was under the impression that 01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:23.520 - that kind of coordination 01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:27.280 - Trailed off anyway pretty substantially in the last few years 01:09:27.280 --> 01:09:31.480 - my thought is that where there is a 01:09:31.480 --> 01:09:36.680 - Development proposal that's coming before the Plant Commission or the BZA could be a large one 01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:41.660 - That is substantial and that would require the expertise of the Environmental Commission that we 01:09:41.660 --> 01:09:42.680 - would pull them in 01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:45.320 - our review for 01:09:45.320 --> 01:09:48.880 - Variances for rezoning's is all very much ordinance driven 01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:54.340 - So to the extent that environmental considerations are to be taken into account by our planners as 01:09:54.340 --> 01:09:55.960 - they give their recommendations 01:09:55.960 --> 01:10:02.070 - That's driven by the ordinance and so they're not at liberty to ask for anything additional or 01:10:02.070 --> 01:10:02.520 - beyond 01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:05.320 - What the ordinance allows them to ask for? 01:10:05.320 --> 01:10:12.540 - Pudds are different. Those are by nature and by my code their negotiation. So there's a lot of 01:10:12.540 --> 01:10:13.960 - different. There's a lot of leeway there 01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:15.960 - so 01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:22.740 - Yeah, I think I think that's that's sort of where I stand on it if there's interest in talking 01:10:22.740 --> 01:10:23.920 - further about that 01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:25.920 - I'd be very glad to 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:33.760 - Yeah, I'd like to I mean I'm not in any position and I'm not I'm not making a case for directing 01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:34.640 - the Commission to do 01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:41.800 - This or that but just simply that their input would be welcome in the process and that if they 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:44.800 - Were interested that 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:46.800 - Then I'm planning a transportation 01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:51.280 - You know be willing to present 01:10:51.280 --> 01:10:56.980 - Development petitions to them so they could have input especially ones that you know, of course 01:10:56.980 --> 01:10:57.320 - have 01:10:57.320 --> 01:11:00.080 - environmental 01:11:00.080 --> 01:11:02.080 - You know implications 01:11:02.080 --> 01:11:09.520 - So I'd be glad to talk more about that with you and with Ms. Albright and the Commission 01:11:10.400 --> 01:11:13.500 - Terrific because sometimes we're on the receiving end the council. I 01:11:13.500 --> 01:11:18.300 - Might be looking for a memo from the Environmental Commission about a particular 01:11:18.300 --> 01:11:20.320 - development and 01:11:20.320 --> 01:11:24.960 - It's always helpful. So thank you for your willingness to talk more about that. Certainly 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:28.720 - Thank you. Are there other questions from council members? 01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.960 - Councilmember Piedmont Smith 01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.720 - Yes, thank you. Mr. Hill for these updates 01:11:35.720 --> 01:11:38.840 - how will you in the in the 01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:41.520 - public process 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.480 - That you're intending to go through to consider 01:11:44.480 --> 01:11:50.350 - Changes to make housing more attainable. How will you engage renters in that process because they 01:11:50.350 --> 01:11:52.240 - normally are not very 01:11:52.240 --> 01:11:55.300 - active or prevalent in neighborhood associations 01:11:55.300 --> 01:12:02.120 - Well, we're going to be working with hand and and probably look for some guidance there 01:12:02.120 --> 01:12:08.340 - Also from the community and family resources department. We're meeting with some 01:12:08.900 --> 01:12:13.340 - Advocacy groups the apartment association and 01:12:13.340 --> 01:12:19.020 - Others that I think might have guidance there as well 01:12:19.020 --> 01:12:25.220 - The goal is is to have a broad reach to cast a white net. So I 01:12:25.220 --> 01:12:29.820 - Guess that's probably the extent of my answer now 01:12:29.820 --> 01:12:32.860 - but 01:12:32.900 --> 01:12:38.060 - Very much want to come out at the end having heard from a lot of renters and so we will figure out 01:12:38.060 --> 01:12:38.740 - a way to do 01:12:38.740 --> 01:12:40.500 - that 01:12:40.500 --> 01:12:44.260 - Okay, just a caution that in my long experience 01:12:44.260 --> 01:12:50.050 - Those who are active in neighborhood associations tend to be more wealthy and tend to be property 01:12:50.050 --> 01:12:50.540 - owners 01:12:50.540 --> 01:12:55.420 - And so it is skewed a certain direction. Yes, that's that's known and understood 01:12:57.500 --> 01:13:03.580 - Thank you councilmember Flaherty, thank you. I had a similar question, but I think I can explore 01:13:03.580 --> 01:13:04.720 - some other topics 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:07.500 - So 01:13:07.500 --> 01:13:11.580 - You referenced two resolutions that weren't, you know brought on the council agenda, but not 01:13:11.580 --> 01:13:12.700 - introduced earlier this year 01:13:12.700 --> 01:13:17.700 - Those were two of four resolutions and actually five distinct bodies of work that were 01:13:17.700 --> 01:13:20.100 - collaborative with your staff over the course of a year 01:13:20.100 --> 01:13:24.950 - Involving the mayor at the deputy mayor many meetings many emails two of those resolutions were 01:13:24.950 --> 01:13:27.060 - brought by my colleagues councilmember Stasberg and 01:13:27.420 --> 01:13:30.420 - Piedmont Smith late last year. They passed without incident 01:13:30.420 --> 01:13:34.300 - Your staff developed with no public input as far as I'm aware 01:13:34.300 --> 01:13:37.700 - A series of UDO changes that are making their way to us right now 01:13:37.700 --> 01:13:41.740 - and then these additional two resolutions were developed again in deep collaboration with your 01:13:41.740 --> 01:13:43.680 - staff with the mayor's knowledge even though 01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:46.500 - Statements were made later that she didn't know about it, which was false 01:13:46.500 --> 01:13:54.380 - And we're going to direct a public process from the council side to look at policy not in a vacuum 01:13:54.380 --> 01:13:59.660 - But based on comprehensive plan plan climate action plan and other existing city policies 01:13:59.660 --> 01:14:04.100 - Which had thousands of people providing input over many years in many sessions 01:14:04.100 --> 01:14:09.240 - And I didn't hear any reference to existing city policy in your comments here about where we 01:14:09.240 --> 01:14:10.660 - proceed. So I guess I'm curious 01:14:10.660 --> 01:14:16.080 - Knowing I guess I'm sharing that context. I think it's important for the public 01:14:16.080 --> 01:14:20.480 - Because again misinformation of false statements were made about how these things were perceived 01:14:20.480 --> 01:14:21.100 - previously 01:14:21.820 --> 01:14:25.300 - And so I got to say I'm just starting from kind of a lack of trust here 01:14:25.300 --> 01:14:30.550 - That's gonna undermine what the administration is working on. I will try to suspend that but the 01:14:30.550 --> 01:14:32.940 - mayor's actions have consequences 01:14:32.940 --> 01:14:36.180 - I think and she's really done a lot to undermine that trust 01:14:36.180 --> 01:14:40.460 - Through obstructing work and again making false statements about it 01:14:40.460 --> 01:14:43.980 - So moving on from that again, I'd like to ask the question 01:14:43.980 --> 01:14:48.050 - How does existing city policy the comprehensive plan climate action plan the resolution I 01:14:48.050 --> 01:14:49.780 - introduced sought to implement? 01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:54.520 - Adopted actions in the climate action plan. How are those going to inform the policy development as 01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:55.300 - well? Thank you 01:14:55.300 --> 01:14:58.780 - Well, those are those are 01:14:58.780 --> 01:15:04.620 - The core documents they were obligated to pay regard to as we as we 01:15:04.620 --> 01:15:08.620 - Move forward with things like this and so so they're at the center 01:15:08.620 --> 01:15:15.810 - I think the fact that the resolutions that you introduced did not get off the ground I think is 01:15:15.810 --> 01:15:16.300 - because 01:15:17.180 --> 01:15:22.780 - There was a desire for a public process to be attached to those ideas 01:15:22.780 --> 01:15:29.340 - I think I don't think that the content was objected to so much as the the lack of a 01:15:29.340 --> 01:15:32.780 - public engagement plan 01:15:32.780 --> 01:15:34.820 - in the wake of 01:15:34.820 --> 01:15:37.300 - You know the 01:15:37.300 --> 01:15:41.400 - 2019-20 rezoning where Plexus were 01:15:42.540 --> 01:15:49.460 - Denied in the 2021 again hotly contested where Plexus were allowed incrementally 01:15:49.460 --> 01:15:51.300 - I 01:15:51.300 --> 01:15:53.300 - think just 01:15:53.300 --> 01:15:58.060 - Awareness of the anticipated public reaction to this 01:15:58.060 --> 01:16:03.980 - Necessitates that there be this very robust outreach to the public 01:16:03.980 --> 01:16:07.740 - So certainly it's definitely a given 01:16:08.220 --> 01:16:14.420 - And I think well documented that our comprehensive plan that our climate action plan and that 01:16:14.420 --> 01:16:18.060 - Other documents that have been adopted 01:16:18.060 --> 01:16:21.220 - do favor 01:16:21.220 --> 01:16:25.820 - The the development of diverse types of housing and housing that it's going to be able to cater to 01:16:25.820 --> 01:16:27.260 - lots of different people 01:16:27.260 --> 01:16:35.340 - But again it didn't happen when you brought it forward the first time I think this is a way that it 01:16:35.340 --> 01:16:36.260 - can happen 01:16:36.980 --> 01:16:41.980 - Thank you two minor points of clarification. One is that the council resolutions would direct a 01:16:41.980 --> 01:16:42.900 - public process 01:16:42.900 --> 01:16:46.880 - So that was always envisioned there would be deep public process and that was communicated at the 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:47.020 - time 01:16:47.020 --> 01:16:52.080 - Second is that the resolution that I individually sponsored did not involve any sort of missing 01:16:52.080 --> 01:16:53.900 - middle housing duplexes triplexes 01:16:53.900 --> 01:17:00.180 - Etc strictly climate action plan implementation. So thank you for this clarifications. Thank you 01:17:00.180 --> 01:17:03.420 - Thank you. Are there other councilmember questions? 01:17:04.740 --> 01:17:09.060 - Councilmember Rosenberger. Hi. Thanks director Hiddle timeline on this 01:17:09.060 --> 01:17:14.300 - I know you and I have spoken about it that you think it can get done by the end of this year 01:17:14.300 --> 01:17:16.340 - but just wanted to get that out there and 01:17:16.340 --> 01:17:20.100 - You know, is that still correct public? 01:17:20.100 --> 01:17:26.080 - Participation happening at the end of the summer or something and I mean, of course you mentioned 01:17:26.080 --> 01:17:26.260 - it 01:17:26.260 --> 01:17:29.180 - But it's just so urgently needed. So still the end of the year 01:17:29.180 --> 01:17:29.780 - Yeah 01:17:29.780 --> 01:17:34.400 - I think it's ambitious when we first started talking about this at the time of that council meeting 01:17:34.400 --> 01:17:37.300 - Which is, you know early spring I do remember saying 01:17:37.300 --> 01:17:42.140 - That we can get it done by the end of the year and now here we are a couple months later 01:17:42.140 --> 01:17:46.500 - Almost halfway through the year. It feels a little bit more constrained, but I think it's it's a 01:17:46.500 --> 01:17:48.700 - reasonable a reasonable shot 01:17:48.700 --> 01:17:54.140 - That's awesome. I think you know, we're a year and a half into this term and so far we really haven't 01:17:54.140 --> 01:17:54.540 - made it 01:17:54.540 --> 01:17:57.500 - I mean, we've made like zero progress toward our 01:17:57.500 --> 01:18:02.620 - Changing our housing policy. So I do I I would love to have something done 01:18:03.180 --> 01:18:05.180 - By the halfway point, I guess 01:18:05.180 --> 01:18:10.840 - Just feels like we're spinning our wheels. So that's that's great. Thank you. Thank you 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.980 - Thank you. Are there other councilmember comments or questions? 01:18:14.980 --> 01:18:17.860 - councilmember Piedmont Smith 01:18:17.860 --> 01:18:26.070 - Yeah, just to speak a bit to the timeline I as council president last year I met with mayor 01:18:26.070 --> 01:18:27.260 - Thompson 01:18:27.260 --> 01:18:32.180 - Monthly or nearly monthly and I think it was in October 01:18:33.140 --> 01:18:38.500 - We met to talk about some of these ideas about creating more attainable housing and she said she 01:18:38.500 --> 01:18:40.860 - would talk to director Hiddle and 01:18:40.860 --> 01:18:42.780 - possibly have 01:18:42.780 --> 01:18:47.560 - Public engagement before the end of 2024 or an early 2025 01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:50.380 - So I just want to emphasize that you know 01:18:50.380 --> 01:18:55.920 - We've we've been trying to get this public engagement for quite a while now. And so it has been 01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:57.380 - somewhat frustrating 01:19:01.060 --> 01:19:07.160 - Thank you any other councilmember comments or questions, okay, I I 01:19:07.160 --> 01:19:12.380 - Thank you very much for the information and thank you for for coming 01:19:12.380 --> 01:19:17.740 - I don't have a direct question right now except that at my constituent meeting which is July 19th 01:19:17.740 --> 01:19:20.540 - That is planning and transportation that is supposed to be at the mayor's tent 01:19:20.540 --> 01:19:24.540 - So I hope that that I can join you there 01:19:24.540 --> 01:19:30.260 - And I assume that this may be a topic of conversation that a lot of community members might be it 01:19:30.260 --> 01:19:31.020 - might be interested in 01:19:31.020 --> 01:19:33.020 - talking to us about so I 01:19:33.020 --> 01:19:35.540 - look forward to that and I look forward to 01:19:35.540 --> 01:19:39.320 - To progress being made in this sector 01:19:39.320 --> 01:19:46.500 - So unless there are other questions, thank you very much for your report and 01:19:46.500 --> 01:19:54.400 - Now we will move on to our last of our three reports and we are right at 750 right now 01:19:56.940 --> 01:20:03.100 - Mistela Rosa, do you have any idea how long your presentation part is gonna take? 01:20:03.100 --> 01:20:08.940 - I'm hoping for around 15 minutes. Okay, and then 01:20:08.940 --> 01:20:14.420 - Director Cooper Smith will also be giving a report on the pilots which will be five to seven 01:20:14.420 --> 01:20:16.680 - minutes. Well, the pilots will be 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:19.820 - under 01:20:19.820 --> 01:20:22.980 - Legislation, right? I'm sorry. The pilots will be under 01:20:23.660 --> 01:20:29.010 - Legislation, right? Or is it different? No, this is a review that'll be this section of the pilots 01:20:29.010 --> 01:20:29.500 - is a review of 01:20:29.500 --> 01:20:36.540 - EDC activity for 2024. So it's a very brief overview. Okay. Um, let's 01:20:36.540 --> 01:20:38.340 - extend 01:20:38.340 --> 01:20:40.340 - reports then until 815 01:20:40.340 --> 01:20:43.380 - I think that you think that'll work 01:20:43.380 --> 01:20:45.460 - We'll see how many questions we have after that 01:20:45.460 --> 01:20:50.500 - So anyway, if you could introduce yourself for the record and I appreciate everybody's casualness 01:20:50.500 --> 01:20:52.820 - this evening about reports for sure 01:20:53.180 --> 01:20:57.700 - My name is Andrea de la Rosa. I'm the assistant director for small business development in 01:20:57.700 --> 01:21:00.740 - economic and sustainable development department 01:21:00.740 --> 01:21:09.840 - This is the 2024 tax payment compliance report and we'll summarize the EDC's activity 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:18.650 - We'll quickly cover the summary of tax of the tax abatement program economic impact of tax abatements 01:21:18.650 --> 01:21:20.620 - and review active pilots 01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:26.710 - The Economic Development Commission unanimously unanimously approved this report on May 20th to 01:21:26.710 --> 01:21:28.940 - keep the presentation within our time frame 01:21:28.940 --> 01:21:31.940 - omit the overview section 01:21:31.940 --> 01:21:37.220 - But I left slides in the deck for public reference. So the addendum that everyone got this 01:21:37.220 --> 01:21:39.620 - afternoon will have these exact slides 01:21:44.140 --> 01:21:50.470 - So what is a tax abatement a tax payment temporarily reduces taxes on new investment either real 01:21:50.470 --> 01:21:51.980 - property or personal property 01:21:51.980 --> 01:21:58.020 - It applies only to the increment, which is the increased assessed the increase in assessed value 01:21:58.020 --> 01:21:59.000 - due to the project 01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:02.220 - The property's original value continues to be taxed 01:22:02.220 --> 01:22:06.900 - Projects must be located in a designated 01:22:06.900 --> 01:22:13.060 - economic revitalization area some residential projects also require designation as and 01:22:13.340 --> 01:22:15.860 - as an economic development target area 01:22:15.860 --> 01:22:21.810 - Approval involves review by city staff and the EDC with final designation and authorization by the 01:22:21.810 --> 01:22:23.740 - common council through a public process 01:22:23.740 --> 01:22:31.820 - How abatements work most abatements last one to ten years and fall and and 01:22:31.820 --> 01:22:37.180 - Follow a sliding scale personal property abatements can go up to 20 years 01:22:37.180 --> 01:22:41.260 - State law allows for alternative schedules if justified by the project 01:22:43.020 --> 01:22:45.020 - Each 01:22:45.020 --> 01:22:50.220 - Application includes an SB one form which sets a baseline which says baseline projections for 01:22:50.220 --> 01:22:52.740 - investment assessed value job creation and wages 01:22:52.740 --> 01:22:59.440 - We also weigh community focus goals like affordable housing sustainability full-time employment and 01:22:59.440 --> 01:23:01.320 - contributions to local character 01:23:01.320 --> 01:23:09.240 - Projects are monitored annually through CF one filings 01:23:10.940 --> 01:23:16.700 - Staff evaluates actual performance against SB one commitments projects are classified as compliant 01:23:16.700 --> 01:23:18.580 - substantially compliant non-compliant 01:23:18.580 --> 01:23:21.700 - and 01:23:21.700 --> 01:23:27.900 - Departments like hand also review specific commitments like affordable housing 01:23:27.900 --> 01:23:39.540 - Right next to me 01:23:39.540 --> 01:23:41.540 - So 01:23:41.540 --> 01:23:52.330 - The overall economic review of or I'm sorry the overall economic impact of the new real and 01:23:52.330 --> 01:23:53.660 - personal property investment 01:23:53.660 --> 01:23:58.460 - 536 million in proposed investment 01:23:58.460 --> 01:24:04.500 - 227 million in actual investment assessed value increased from 170 million to 01:24:05.340 --> 01:24:12.040 - 255 million exceeding expectations this increase meets the but for standard these gains would have 01:24:12.040 --> 01:24:12.420 - occurred 01:24:12.420 --> 01:24:15.100 - Wouldn't have occurred without the abatements 01:24:15.100 --> 01:24:19.580 - As far as jobs projects reported 01:24:19.580 --> 01:24:22.980 - 3692 total jobs and 01:24:22.980 --> 01:24:29.040 - 317 million in salaries while some fell short of job targets several exceeded wage projections 01:24:29.040 --> 01:24:30.300 - indicating fewer 01:24:30.300 --> 01:24:36.780 - But higher paying jobs, for example, Wolverine mill created 60 new jobs exceeding its target of 01:24:36.780 --> 01:24:38.120 - four forty five 01:24:38.120 --> 01:24:40.520 - with average full-time wages around 01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:44.380 - $41,000 01:24:44.380 --> 01:24:52.040 - Affordable housing incomes abatements also supported deeply affordable housing new urban station 01:24:52.040 --> 01:24:58.640 - Had 11 affordable units at 28 percent AMI with a hundred percent occupancy 01:24:59.060 --> 01:25:06.160 - Southern Noel had 31 units at 52 percent AMI with 87 percent occupancy and unit Crescent has 01:25:06.160 --> 01:25:08.500 - 117 units 01:25:08.500 --> 01:25:10.420 - designated as affordable 01:25:10.420 --> 01:25:13.480 - 74 currently occupied at 64 percent 01:25:13.480 --> 01:25:17.820 - These projects show how abatements are leveraged to expand housing access 01:25:17.820 --> 01:25:26.560 - Southern Oles in its six year of abatement exceeding investment job and wage commitments 01:25:27.980 --> 01:25:31.700 - Assessed value is a hundred and thirty percent of its SB 1 projection 01:25:31.700 --> 01:25:38.660 - 24 units serve households at or below 60 percent AMI and staff recommends finding compliance for 01:25:38.660 --> 01:25:39.380 - this project 01:25:39.380 --> 01:25:44.860 - Union at Crescent is 01:25:44.860 --> 01:25:52.120 - 160 or 146 unit mixed income development with a hundred and two units committed as affordable at 01:25:52.120 --> 01:25:56.460 - 60 percent AMI only 74 units of 01:25:56.940 --> 01:25:59.500 - The committed 102 are currently occupied 01:25:59.500 --> 01:26:02.940 - equating to 64 percent occupancy 01:26:02.940 --> 01:26:08.780 - This has met this abatement has met investment in wage goals 01:26:08.780 --> 01:26:14.870 - It's undergoing reading remediation efforts and staff recommends a finding of non-compliance due 01:26:14.870 --> 01:26:16.660 - the shortfall in occupancy 01:26:20.220 --> 01:26:26.390 - Urban Station exceeded investment commitments fell short unemployment, but retained wages above the 01:26:26.390 --> 01:26:27.340 - proposed SB 1 01:26:27.340 --> 01:26:33.500 - Provided 17 rooms at or below 80 percent AMI exceeding their commitment 01:26:33.500 --> 01:26:40.380 - 100% occupancy of affordable units staff recommends a finding of substantially compliant 01:26:43.540 --> 01:26:50.120 - Wolverine mill is a historic mill redeveloped on top road reported four hundred point three. I'm 01:26:50.120 --> 01:26:52.900 - sorry four million point three in real estate 01:26:52.900 --> 01:26:58.220 - Investment towards six million door to six million commitment phase one is completed 01:26:58.220 --> 01:27:02.640 - Which is the event space and phase two condo hotel or have been delayed by market conditions 01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:09.980 - Overall, it's created 60 jobs versus the 45 projected full and part-time salaries met or exceeded 01:27:09.980 --> 01:27:11.020 - original goals 01:27:11.780 --> 01:27:14.580 - Assessed value is currently at three point nine million 01:27:14.580 --> 01:27:20.810 - I'm sorry three point zero nine million and on track to on track relative to develop developmental 01:27:20.810 --> 01:27:21.160 - stage 01:27:21.160 --> 01:27:24.820 - Staff recommends finding of substantially compliant 01:27:24.820 --> 01:27:30.580 - So the Cadillac 01:27:30.580 --> 01:27:34.180 - Abatement, it's actually three abatements and it's a lot of information 01:27:34.180 --> 01:27:40.060 - So I'm gonna blow through this pretty quick. Please stop me if something does not make sense 01:27:41.300 --> 01:27:43.260 - Oh 01:27:43.260 --> 01:27:45.260 - Looks great 01:27:45.260 --> 01:27:52.530 - Kind of it holds three active abatements now under novo Nordisk following a late acquisition in I'm 01:27:52.530 --> 01:27:54.100 - sorry an acquisition in late 01:27:54.100 --> 01:27:55.500 - 2024 01:27:55.500 --> 01:28:00.820 - Because the sale closed on December 26. No new jobs or capital investments were added last year 01:28:00.820 --> 01:28:06.340 - However, the company did report strong salary and employment data based on inherit inherited 01:28:06.340 --> 01:28:07.160 - operations 01:28:08.580 --> 01:28:11.660 - 1506 for personal property 1904 and 01:28:11.660 --> 01:28:16.620 - 2206 for both real and personal property are the abatements held 01:28:16.620 --> 01:28:26.300 - Resolution 1506 and 1904 exceed investment and salary targets 01:28:26.300 --> 01:28:33.710 - Resolution 2206 early in implementation with investment underway. We find substantially or we 01:28:33.710 --> 01:28:36.260 - recommend a stanchion substantially compliant 01:28:36.260 --> 01:28:45.280 - Cf-1 filings reflected at reflect aggregate employment across all states all sites across all three 01:28:45.280 --> 01:28:48.060 - resolutions 01:28:48.060 --> 01:28:55.320 - Catalan consistently reported a total year-end headcount of one thousand eight hundred and eleven 01:28:55.320 --> 01:28:55.860 - employees 01:28:55.860 --> 01:29:03.890 - This slide compares projected and reported salary outcomes for resolve for all resolutions based on 01:29:03.890 --> 01:29:05.100 - CF one filings 01:29:06.060 --> 01:29:09.060 - The projected sales. I'm sorry projected salaries 01:29:09.060 --> 01:29:11.740 - equal to 01:29:11.740 --> 01:29:13.580 - 91.4 million 01:29:13.580 --> 01:29:15.580 - actual reported salaries at 01:29:15.580 --> 01:29:19.740 - 157 million projected average wage was 01:29:19.740 --> 01:29:23.900 - 55,000 and the actual average wage was eighty six 01:29:23.900 --> 01:29:29.460 - eight hundred and eighty one thousand dollars and these are for resolutions 01:29:29.460 --> 01:29:32.580 - 1506 and 1904 01:29:33.700 --> 01:29:37.580 - For resolution 2206 projected salary was 01:29:37.580 --> 01:29:44.140 - 262 point eight million and actual reported was 170 157 point three million 01:29:44.140 --> 01:29:49.060 - Staff recommends compliance for 01:29:49.060 --> 01:29:51.820 - 1506 01:29:51.820 --> 01:29:55.860 - 1904 and substantial compliance for 2206 with continued monitoring 01:30:01.300 --> 01:30:05.920 - Real America's project at switch yard park is under construction but delayed due to site 01:30:05.920 --> 01:30:06.960 - development issues 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.580 - The project is expected to come online later this year 01:30:09.580 --> 01:30:16.240 - Staff is is tracking milestones and no compliance determination is yet required 01:30:16.240 --> 01:30:22.820 - We're also monitoring for pilots and director Cooper Smith will present those 01:30:27.020 --> 01:30:34.000 - So as miss de la Rosa mentioned we have pilots that we're adding to our annual abatement 01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:41.120 - Compliance review process we have two active pilots. The first is evergreen village. It's a hundred 01:30:41.120 --> 01:30:41.420 - and fifteen 01:30:41.420 --> 01:30:47.740 - unit residential care facility for residents at sixty percent AMI or below 01:30:47.740 --> 01:30:54.020 - Right now this year. We're just monitoring that the payment was received country view is 01:30:56.180 --> 01:31:00.100 - Pilot that was approved in 2022 the term is 30 years 01:31:00.100 --> 01:31:05.500 - It's two hundred and six units for residents at sixty percent AMI and below at the time 01:31:05.500 --> 01:31:08.660 - I submitted this report. The payment was not yet received 01:31:08.660 --> 01:31:13.830 - We've been working with Glick properties to try to understand what happened. So they have paid 01:31:13.830 --> 01:31:14.620 - their payment and 01:31:14.620 --> 01:31:17.780 - via their mortgage company 01:31:17.780 --> 01:31:23.620 - Via their escrow process and so that wasn't received yet by the controller's office 01:31:23.620 --> 01:31:27.840 - We think maybe it was misdirected to the county, but we're working with the county and Glick to 01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:29.180 - iron that out 01:31:29.180 --> 01:31:33.340 - There's no concern that they're non-compliant. We have proof of payment on their end. So 01:31:33.340 --> 01:31:39.980 - That's fine. And then just as a placeholder. I listed the two pilots that we're considering this 01:31:39.980 --> 01:31:40.460 - evening 01:31:40.460 --> 01:31:45.180 - Obviously, those are not approved yet 01:31:45.180 --> 01:31:50.460 - But it's maybe helpful to look at those terms next to the terms of the two extant pilots 01:31:50.460 --> 01:31:56.380 - And that's all I have to say on pilots and I think miss de la Rosa and I would be happy to receive 01:31:56.380 --> 01:31:58.540 - Questions that you have at this time 01:31:58.540 --> 01:32:07.900 - Great thank you so much and just to clarify for I think council and the public and for myself with 01:32:07.900 --> 01:32:08.340 - our 01:32:08.340 --> 01:32:10.980 - Council attorney and also with you guys 01:32:10.980 --> 01:32:16.500 - Tonight, we're not taking any action on this information, correct? 01:32:16.500 --> 01:32:22.080 - So we're not actually voting to approve compliance or non-compliance. We're just receiving the 01:32:22.080 --> 01:32:23.540 - information and asking questions 01:32:23.540 --> 01:32:25.540 - Is that correct attorney liner? 01:32:25.540 --> 01:32:29.420 - That's correct. Okay. Thank you very much for that clarification 01:32:29.420 --> 01:32:37.120 - Do council members have any questions about this report councilmember Piedmont Smith 01:32:37.120 --> 01:32:45.100 - Yes, thank you to both of you for gathering this information preparing the report 01:32:45.500 --> 01:32:47.500 - so 01:32:47.500 --> 01:32:50.220 - Ms. De La Rosa said 01:32:50.220 --> 01:32:56.690 - For that slide that says economic impact of tax abatements one of the early slides. I believe you 01:32:56.690 --> 01:32:57.420 - said that 01:32:57.420 --> 01:33:01.940 - This shows the projects met the but for criteria 01:33:01.940 --> 01:33:07.870 - Meaning that they wouldn't have been undertaken but for the tax abatement. Could you explain how 01:33:07.870 --> 01:33:09.020 - this chart? 01:33:09.020 --> 01:33:11.980 - gives evidence of that 01:33:12.340 --> 01:33:14.340 - I 01:33:14.340 --> 01:33:26.860 - Yeah, I think the slide deck would be helpful 01:33:26.860 --> 01:33:32.380 - That should be slide 11 01:33:32.380 --> 01:33:34.380 - I 01:33:34.380 --> 01:33:53.060 - Know you're close. Oh go forward one 01:33:53.060 --> 01:33:58.780 - One more back there you go. Oh this one 01:33:58.780 --> 01:34:02.020 - Yes, okay 01:34:02.860 --> 01:34:04.860 - So 01:34:04.860 --> 01:34:07.620 - Sorry 01:34:07.620 --> 01:34:17.780 - Yeah, this this slide actually doesn't show the but for it is just show it shows the impact of this 01:34:17.780 --> 01:34:21.220 - however 01:34:21.220 --> 01:34:23.420 - We give abatements as 01:34:23.420 --> 01:34:29.790 - About for so if we weren't to if we weren't able to give an abatement for certain projects, they 01:34:29.790 --> 01:34:30.980 - would not exist 01:34:31.300 --> 01:34:32.780 - maybe 01:34:32.780 --> 01:34:39.130 - My phrasing was off when I said that but this shows the impact of all of these different types of 01:34:39.130 --> 01:34:40.900 - abatements that we have 01:34:40.900 --> 01:34:46.620 - So, how do you gauge the but for when you bring forward an abatement 01:34:46.620 --> 01:34:50.180 - How do you know that it wouldn't be built if it didn't get an abatement? I 01:34:50.180 --> 01:34:54.300 - Think this is an 01:34:54.300 --> 01:34:59.380 - Evaluation that happens with input from multiple departments and really is looking at the overall 01:34:59.820 --> 01:35:01.820 - financial picture of the project 01:35:01.820 --> 01:35:06.340 - And you know, I think there's 01:35:06.340 --> 01:35:13.360 - There because there comes a point in the consideration of council where you have to listen to the 01:35:13.360 --> 01:35:15.100 - applicant and then determine 01:35:15.100 --> 01:35:19.700 - For yourselves there is there is a bit of a risk that you're taking there, right? 01:35:19.700 --> 01:35:25.180 - So if you decline if you deny an abatement and the development doesn't happen 01:35:25.180 --> 01:35:28.660 - There's evidence if you approve an abatement 01:35:29.220 --> 01:35:35.330 - And development happens. There's evidence that it's supported. I don't think we've denied an abatement 01:35:35.330 --> 01:35:35.860 - and had 01:35:35.860 --> 01:35:39.020 - development which would prove a 01:35:39.020 --> 01:35:41.420 - false but for 01:35:41.420 --> 01:35:46.760 - So I think that when you I think we do the analysis we do as much evaluation as we can and then we 01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:47.320 - have to 01:35:47.320 --> 01:35:51.220 - Walk up to the point where council is voting and there is a certain amount of risk there 01:35:51.220 --> 01:35:56.560 - Okay, thank you I have other questions, but I'll wait 01:35:57.380 --> 01:36:02.340 - Okay, I saw councilmember Rallo's hand up. Can't remember Rallo. Do you have a question? 01:36:02.340 --> 01:36:05.940 - Yes, I do thank you for the presentation 01:36:05.940 --> 01:36:10.420 - So referring to resolution, this is the Catalan 01:36:10.420 --> 01:36:13.140 - topic and 01:36:13.140 --> 01:36:15.140 - resolution 2206 01:36:15.140 --> 01:36:20.000 - So they failed to achieve the employment that was anticipated 01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:23.500 - And 01:36:23.500 --> 01:36:30.100 - I didn't see a recommendation. Maybe I missed it of staff on whether the compliance is met or not 01:36:30.100 --> 01:36:35.860 - Is that is that something that's in process or what? So I can provide some context on this one 01:36:35.860 --> 01:36:38.280 - So 2206 was approved 01:36:38.280 --> 01:36:42.300 - in 2022 obviously and it had a 01:36:42.300 --> 01:36:48.200 - significant capital investment component and then the jobs promised I think were 01:36:52.220 --> 01:36:54.220 - 790 so there are two 01:36:54.220 --> 01:37:00.060 - Factors with the compliance one is they have a three-year window to become compliant with those 01:37:00.060 --> 01:37:00.980 - jobs numbers 01:37:00.980 --> 01:37:03.820 - so technically they're still in the on-ramp period from 01:37:03.820 --> 01:37:09.370 - the time in which that abatement was activated and then the second factor and this is something 01:37:09.370 --> 01:37:10.380 - that you should 01:37:10.380 --> 01:37:14.940 - Consider when thinking through the abatement report writ large 01:37:14.940 --> 01:37:17.700 - the second factor is whether 01:37:17.700 --> 01:37:20.580 - whether 01:37:20.580 --> 01:37:23.020 - The inability to achieve a goal is within 01:37:23.020 --> 01:37:27.980 - the company's power, so if there were causes 01:37:27.980 --> 01:37:31.820 - Outside of the 01:37:31.820 --> 01:37:34.520 - Companies, I'm sorry. I'm just restating that in a different order 01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:40.020 - But you know what? I mean if it's outside of their control, then we can't hold the abatement 01:37:40.020 --> 01:37:45.980 - We can't withhold it for that reason so at this time with 2206 01:37:47.060 --> 01:37:51.540 - That abatement wait wait, could you could you or could you is it just your discretion? 01:37:51.540 --> 01:37:55.300 - No, it's stated in the code 01:37:55.300 --> 01:38:01.890 - Hmm, and then I don't know if it's restated in our mo use as well, but it's very clearly stated in 01:38:01.890 --> 01:38:02.380 - the code 01:38:02.380 --> 01:38:07.940 - Okay, and so then I think what how that would play out is if you wanted to 01:38:07.940 --> 01:38:10.780 - withhold approval of an abatement 01:38:11.700 --> 01:38:18.460 - The company would have a hearing and would be able to make the case and I imagine at that time 01:38:18.460 --> 01:38:23.940 - There would be discussion about whether the factors were inside or outside of the company's control. 01:38:23.940 --> 01:38:24.020 - I 01:38:24.020 --> 01:38:28.060 - See. Okay. Thanks for clarifying that and just briefly 01:38:28.060 --> 01:38:34.100 - So if a company requires another one like Nova or Nordisk acquired cantalant 01:38:34.100 --> 01:38:36.980 - does the 01:38:37.260 --> 01:38:41.780 - Does the baby carryover does the obligation and and the benefits carry? 01:38:41.780 --> 01:38:49.180 - Yes. Yeah, so this was the purchase of cantalant by Nova was an asset purchase and so they did 01:38:49.180 --> 01:38:53.220 - the abatements will transfer and with them I 01:38:53.220 --> 01:38:56.380 - think the 01:38:56.380 --> 01:38:59.900 - The milestones will transfer as well 01:38:59.900 --> 01:39:03.020 - But but again, it's been 01:39:03.900 --> 01:39:07.620 - an interesting journey, so I think what I started to say was that 01:39:07.620 --> 01:39:13.540 - 2206 was approved during the height of the Defense Production Act. There was 01:39:13.540 --> 01:39:18.420 - massive effort to scale up production at the site for 01:39:18.420 --> 01:39:21.260 - COVID vaccine manufacturing and 01:39:21.260 --> 01:39:28.780 - We know that what happened was demand completely bottomed out of the market and really changed the 01:39:30.500 --> 01:39:36.720 - Volume required at that site and so they did have subsequent. I think two or three rounds of rifts 01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:37.700 - after that 01:39:37.700 --> 01:39:43.320 - And it was definitely not the trajectory that we thought we were on at the beginning. Nevertheless, 01:39:43.320 --> 01:39:44.380 - they've really met those 01:39:44.380 --> 01:39:47.300 - capital investment requirements and 01:39:47.300 --> 01:39:52.460 - We feel very optimistic about no those purchase of the site 01:39:52.460 --> 01:39:58.800 - We can already tell through bi-weekly meetings with the company that they're deeply engaged. They 01:39:58.800 --> 01:39:59.500 - have major 01:40:00.220 --> 01:40:02.260 - climate and sustainability priorities 01:40:02.260 --> 01:40:09.020 - for their global operations, but also for the site and Bloomington and so I 01:40:09.020 --> 01:40:14.700 - Think it will be a good news story likely when we come back for this report next year 01:40:14.700 --> 01:40:16.700 - But we'll just have to wait and see what the numbers are 01:40:16.700 --> 01:40:21.880 - Well, thank you I had another brief one but I could wait 01:40:21.880 --> 01:40:28.410 - Okay. Thank you. Yeah, let's see if there's other questions on first round before we moved to 01:40:28.410 --> 01:40:29.220 - second round 01:40:29.220 --> 01:40:31.220 - Okay 01:40:31.220 --> 01:40:34.100 - I have a question about 01:40:34.100 --> 01:40:42.280 - For first round about the union at Crescent vacancies. So does this mean I mean, oh shoot 01:40:42.280 --> 01:40:46.780 - I had it. So if it's a hundred and forty six unit property and 01:40:46.780 --> 01:40:52.100 - There 01:40:52.100 --> 01:40:56.780 - Where is it it's a hundred and forty six units and then 01:40:58.780 --> 01:41:05.780 - They have over 60 units vacant right now, I mean are they just this property like that 01:41:05.780 --> 01:41:07.780 - empty really 01:41:07.780 --> 01:41:14.980 - Yes, do you know why people are not living in those units at all? They are 01:41:14.980 --> 01:41:23.460 - Just to get additional information about these questions before putting the presentation together 01:41:23.460 --> 01:41:25.120 - they responded that 01:41:25.700 --> 01:41:30.330 - The annex group which was the original developer but not the property manager took the property 01:41:30.330 --> 01:41:32.700 - over later last year and 01:41:32.700 --> 01:41:36.060 - Has stated that they're on a remediation plan 01:41:36.060 --> 01:41:41.740 - But that site security issues and property damage are really what are driving down 01:41:41.740 --> 01:41:48.420 - Occupancy, I know not to put her on the spot but housing and neighborhood development director Anna 01:41:48.420 --> 01:41:49.660 - Killian Hansen is here 01:41:49.660 --> 01:41:51.660 - She may have additional context 01:41:51.660 --> 01:41:53.940 - but what I am 01:41:54.140 --> 01:41:59.880 - Reporting to you is strictly how they responded to our inquiry regarding the tax abatement 01:41:59.880 --> 01:42:04.340 - Okay, great, thank you 01:42:04.340 --> 01:42:14.230 - Second round questions councilmember Piedmont Smith. Yes. I have some questions about urban station. 01:42:14.230 --> 01:42:14.500 - So 01:42:14.500 --> 01:42:20.340 - In the the chart 01:42:21.060 --> 01:42:28.580 - In your slide presentation you have that the commitment for employment was 10 jobs and they report 01:42:28.580 --> 01:42:28.980 - for 01:42:28.980 --> 01:42:33.180 - As far as retained employment and then for new employment 01:42:33.180 --> 01:42:38.100 - the SB one promised five jobs and the 01:42:38.100 --> 01:42:44.140 - CF1 shows only two so I'm struggling to see how this is substantial 01:42:44.140 --> 01:42:48.420 - Substantial compliance if there's only 40% of the jobs 01:42:48.500 --> 01:42:51.060 - so promised the way that we have 01:42:51.060 --> 01:42:54.220 - interpreted this SB 1 filing is 01:42:54.220 --> 01:43:00.160 - Well, we first of all just reported the data that's in the SB 1 the affordable housing abatements 01:43:00.160 --> 01:43:02.180 - are always a little challenging to 01:43:02.180 --> 01:43:07.990 - Address in the compliance process. So the state empowers us to issue or empowers you to issue tax 01:43:07.990 --> 01:43:09.100 - abatements and 01:43:09.100 --> 01:43:14.820 - Requires that we handle compliance through the SB 1 and CF 1 process 01:43:15.340 --> 01:43:20.700 - However, the CF ones do not account for affordable housing in any way 01:43:20.700 --> 01:43:25.580 - so on the staff level when we're handling these abatements we 01:43:25.580 --> 01:43:32.360 - We look to the SB 1 and CF 1 for jobs data. We work with housing and neighborhood development for 01:43:32.360 --> 01:43:33.000 - housing data 01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:35.620 - my 01:43:35.620 --> 01:43:38.300 - Interpretation of this 01:43:38.300 --> 01:43:43.180 - abatement is that is primarily an affordable housing debate abatement and that 01:43:43.980 --> 01:43:45.680 - the jobs 01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:50.060 - Were required but we're really not the thing that was the most important 01:43:50.060 --> 01:43:54.940 - so the council may or may not agree with that and I think 01:43:54.940 --> 01:43:59.860 - You know, we're giving you our best read and that's the context I 01:43:59.860 --> 01:44:04.180 - See thank you. Yeah 01:44:04.180 --> 01:44:06.300 - Thank you 01:44:06.300 --> 01:44:10.220 - Since I know councilmember Rallo has a round two and I know that I do as well 01:44:10.220 --> 01:44:12.820 - Let's go ahead and extend this till 825 01:44:13.660 --> 01:44:15.660 - councilmember Rallo around to 01:44:15.660 --> 01:44:20.140 - Yeah, just briefly I'm just curious about this because 01:44:20.140 --> 01:44:26.100 - Of what was stated. So this is not necessarily a reflection on these particular 01:44:26.100 --> 01:44:29.380 - abatements, but 01:44:29.380 --> 01:44:37.480 - So assuming an abatement occur occurs or an acquisition occurs and the abatement is acquired by 01:44:37.480 --> 01:44:40.460 - Say one corporation by another 01:44:40.460 --> 01:44:42.780 - and 01:44:42.780 --> 01:44:45.060 - All the benefits that come with it 01:44:45.060 --> 01:44:48.420 - is that somewhat problematic because 01:44:48.420 --> 01:44:55.060 - you know when corporation could have a different record than another and the one that's 01:44:55.060 --> 01:45:02.620 - The acquiring entity would be I think I don't know 01:45:02.620 --> 01:45:07.700 - May not have gotten the abatement had it come forward 01:45:07.700 --> 01:45:09.980 - originally 01:45:09.980 --> 01:45:13.060 - Is that something that we have to be concerned about? 01:45:13.060 --> 01:45:24.820 - Which was how this was handled it is allowable to purchase the tax incentive to purchase that abatement 01:45:24.820 --> 01:45:28.940 - So I think in this situation 01:45:28.940 --> 01:45:35.650 - whether it's easy or difficult for the purchaser whether it's advisable for the purchaser is is 01:45:35.650 --> 01:45:37.060 - kind of a 01:45:38.180 --> 01:45:41.240 - discussion that's a part but whether it's legal and 01:45:41.240 --> 01:45:49.350 - Whether it is being whether the terms of the mo you are being conformed to is really where our 01:45:49.350 --> 01:45:50.300 - activity 01:45:50.300 --> 01:45:54.020 - Belongs I 01:45:54.020 --> 01:45:56.860 - See so as long as they meet the conditions 01:45:56.860 --> 01:46:02.660 - There's nothing really that we can we can do to limit no 01:46:02.660 --> 01:46:08.170 - I mean, I think going forward if you if the council decided hey, we really want to issue an abatement 01:46:08.170 --> 01:46:09.220 - to company a 01:46:09.220 --> 01:46:16.060 - But if company a sells and we are not open to extending that abatement to company B or C 01:46:16.060 --> 01:46:19.100 - then you might include something like that in a 01:46:19.100 --> 01:46:25.000 - In a termination clause in the mo you but the stat state statute 01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:27.980 - Allows it it doesn't 01:46:27.980 --> 01:46:31.160 - It doesn't limit it in any way 01:46:32.160 --> 01:46:38.520 - If it's an asset transfer, so I think how we handle it in the mo you on the local level otherwise 01:46:38.520 --> 01:46:39.080 - for us 01:46:39.080 --> 01:46:43.340 - It's it's legal. And so therefore does it comply? 01:46:43.340 --> 01:46:50.730 - Okay, I think I've got that I'd like to research some more this is the first one I've encountered 01:46:50.730 --> 01:46:50.960 - so 01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:57.880 - Like this. So thank you. Well, actually I don't know if you were on council then but when 01:46:58.360 --> 01:47:01.120 - Cattiland purchased the site from cook 01:47:01.120 --> 01:47:07.920 - We went through the same thing. Yeah, you're right. You're right stand corrected. Thank you 01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:16.580 - Thank you, um, I I also had a question about the Woolery mill one 01:47:16.580 --> 01:47:23.840 - Because in the development status that says that phase one is completed and that phase two has been 01:47:23.840 --> 01:47:25.800 - delayed given market pressures 01:47:25.800 --> 01:47:31.880 - And I couldn't tell I mean it it looks like it's just commercial in terms of the 01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:37.380 - Requirements as opposed to phase two has like condos and hotels has a residential 01:47:37.380 --> 01:47:39.600 - component to it to some degree 01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:46.280 - but so I guess like my question is is there a timeline on phase two for that development but then I 01:47:46.280 --> 01:47:47.400 - guess that the other 01:47:47.400 --> 01:47:49.400 - piece of that question is 01:47:49.400 --> 01:47:53.580 - Does the abatement depend on phase two? 01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:56.720 - so 01:47:56.720 --> 01:48:02.820 - The property the project was originally I'm just stating this to help us enter into the logic 01:48:02.820 --> 01:48:03.960 - puzzle together 01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:10.000 - So the property was originally configured in two phases phase one was the renovation of the Woolery 01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:12.160 - mill and the creation of that event center 01:48:12.160 --> 01:48:14.160 - Phase two was planned to be 01:48:14.160 --> 01:48:17.000 - You know a condo development at one point 01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:22.960 - It was considered it was being considered as a hotel development in the open field kind of where 01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:23.640 - tap and Weimer 01:48:24.040 --> 01:48:25.280 - meet 01:48:25.280 --> 01:48:31.120 - Phase two had some stops and starts and ultimately hasn't moved forward the abatement 01:48:31.120 --> 01:48:36.560 - The way it's structured if there's no increase in assessed value on that parcel, then we're not 01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:43.960 - We're not abating what doesn't exist so we have approved the phase one 01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:46.400 - investments and we 01:48:46.400 --> 01:48:51.440 - Are honoring that or we're recommending that that part of the abatement be honored and then the 01:48:51.440 --> 01:48:52.120 - phase two 01:48:52.120 --> 01:48:57.550 - They're allowed to claim an abatement at this point on additional investments, but they haven't 01:48:57.550 --> 01:48:57.860 - made those 01:48:57.860 --> 01:49:00.480 - Investments and so it hasn't been activated 01:49:00.480 --> 01:49:07.080 - Okay, I think I may understand that a lot of the abatements have 01:49:07.080 --> 01:49:13.840 - Multiple layers according to when the capital investments are made. So if you approve an abatement 01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:14.120 - for 01:49:14.120 --> 01:49:18.780 - 100 million dollars, but which whatever that's just our number 01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:22.560 - But and you spend 50 million in year one 01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:27.480 - 25 in year two 25 in year three then that abatement would come to us with 01:49:27.480 --> 01:49:33.400 - With different layers being abated at different times and having them different lifespans when they 01:49:33.400 --> 01:49:33.920 - roll off 01:49:33.920 --> 01:49:38.040 - So it's almost like a phase in sort of process depending on when the investment happens. Okay, 01:49:38.040 --> 01:49:38.920 - great. Thank you 01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:40.960 - Are there other councilmember questions? 01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:46.720 - Councilmember Piedmont Smith this one should be pretty easy 01:49:47.240 --> 01:49:48.480 - Um 01:49:48.480 --> 01:49:54.000 - Do we write the following into our tax abatement mo use first of all compliance with living wage 01:49:54.000 --> 01:49:56.380 - ordinance for employment and secondly 01:49:56.380 --> 01:49:59.520 - actual occupancy of residential units 01:49:59.520 --> 01:50:01.560 - so 01:50:01.560 --> 01:50:03.560 - interesting questions 01:50:03.560 --> 01:50:05.920 - Occupancy has not been written into 01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:13.040 - the mo use so at this time the abatements that exist we've only written in 01:50:14.760 --> 01:50:19.280 - the creation of those units and not the occupancy so 01:50:19.280 --> 01:50:25.640 - That was a point of ambiguity with the union at Crescent abatement miss de la Rosa and I felt 01:50:25.640 --> 01:50:28.000 - uncomfortable enough 01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:33.000 - Giving recommending substantial compliance that we felt it was better to turn it over to you all to 01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:34.980 - get additional information and discuss 01:50:34.980 --> 01:50:38.360 - but that was kind of one of the 01:50:40.120 --> 01:50:47.420 - Hint points that it hinged on and then your second question was the living wage ordinance and it it 01:50:47.420 --> 01:50:47.820 - was 01:50:47.820 --> 01:50:53.160 - It is not in all of them and we have been discussing this on a staff level 01:50:53.160 --> 01:50:56.200 - going forward 01:50:56.200 --> 01:51:01.800 - How that should be reflected in the mo in the mo use and miss Brittingham is here 01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:07.540 - I don't know if you want a more detailed answer than that. She can probably provide it as the 01:51:07.540 --> 01:51:09.000 - attorney who's been supporting this 01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:11.000 - I 01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:16.360 - Sure, but before you leave the podium so on the first 01:51:16.360 --> 01:51:22.900 - Question of occupancy will that be written in the future since we've had this problem. Yeah 01:51:22.900 --> 01:51:32.120 - Hi Audrey Brittingham city attorney so tax abatements are subject to the living wage ordinance 01:51:32.120 --> 01:51:34.800 - It appears that a lot of the agreements 01:51:35.360 --> 01:51:38.820 - Have that language in them and it appears that some of them don't 01:51:38.820 --> 01:51:45.930 - Over your recess we are going to reach out to all of them and ask if they would complete a living 01:51:45.930 --> 01:51:46.400 - wage 01:51:46.400 --> 01:51:49.320 - certification form the ones that 01:51:49.320 --> 01:51:53.160 - For the the companies that have the living wage 01:51:53.160 --> 01:51:58.660 - Language in their agreement. They're required to complete the certification form every year for the 01:51:58.660 --> 01:52:00.880 - ones that don't have the 01:52:01.700 --> 01:52:07.760 - Language in their agreement. We'll still contact them and say this is what the living wage is tax 01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:09.280 - abatements are subject to it 01:52:09.280 --> 01:52:14.500 - You know, we would like for you to complete the certification form the living wage this year is 01:52:14.500 --> 01:52:17.920 - 1622 an hour 01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:20.680 - We have not really had any pushback 01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:23.720 - on the living wage 01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:29.990 - Since I took over or since I started with the city about a couple years ago. I was working on the 01:52:29.990 --> 01:52:30.640 - living wage 01:52:30.640 --> 01:52:36.040 - I haven't received any pushback yet. We will see if we receive pushback from any of these 01:52:36.040 --> 01:52:41.180 - Entities particularly the ones that don't have that language in their agreement and we can bring 01:52:41.180 --> 01:52:43.920 - that information to you at the July meeting 01:52:43.920 --> 01:52:49.560 - We hope to have all or substantially all of the certifications 01:52:49.560 --> 01:52:52.200 - returned before the July meeting 01:52:52.200 --> 01:52:57.800 - All right. Thank you so much for following up on that. I mean, it's not a very high wage 01:52:57.800 --> 01:53:01.600 - So I don't think anybody should complain a great counselor 01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:10.380 - Thank you, are there any other questions on the abatement report from council members? 01:53:10.380 --> 01:53:17.520 - Okay, thank you. Thank you very much for being here both of you all three of you 01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:22.800 - and as I said earlier council will have to take action on 01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:30.100 - recommendations and compliance or non-compliance at our July 16th meeting 01:53:30.100 --> 01:53:36.100 - We spend a lot of time 01:53:36.100 --> 01:53:41.280 - Pouring over the details and so it's appreciated that you guys get into the weeds and ask these 01:53:41.280 --> 01:53:44.640 - questions. So it's welcome. Sure. Thank you 01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:47.520 - All right 01:53:47.520 --> 01:53:51.280 - The report section has been unusually long this evening 01:53:51.280 --> 01:53:54.440 - And I hope that people have found it interesting. There's been a lot of things to report on 01:53:54.440 --> 01:54:00.060 - So now we are finally through the mayor and city offices reports and now we are on to council 01:54:00.060 --> 01:54:01.400 - committee reports 01:54:01.400 --> 01:54:05.360 - And we are going to start with the sidewalk committee reports 01:54:05.360 --> 01:54:10.130 - We will first hear from the chair of that committee a councilmember Rosenberger. Great. Hi. Thank 01:54:10.130 --> 01:54:11.920 - you. So I 01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:14.440 - have I 01:54:14.440 --> 01:54:18.520 - Don't know. I couldn't I couldn't make this longer or shorter. I'm gonna go with shorter and 01:54:19.960 --> 01:54:22.200 - All the information is in the packet 01:54:22.200 --> 01:54:27.880 - So if folks have questions and you want a whole debrief of all of it, I guess let me know 01:54:27.880 --> 01:54:33.000 - I'm not gonna go through the purpose of the sidewalk committee. If you would like to see that, 01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:35.460 - please check out last year's report 01:54:35.460 --> 01:54:38.480 - our council meeting 01:54:38.480 --> 01:54:42.080 - So this year was different. We met in April the sidewalk committee 01:54:42.080 --> 01:54:46.300 - There are four of us and instead of a three hundred and fifty thousand dollar budget. We have a 01:54:46.300 --> 01:54:48.600 - five hundred thousand dollar budget and 01:54:49.160 --> 01:54:55.320 - We made a series of recommendations that we hopefully will 01:54:55.320 --> 01:55:00.080 - Vote on tonight. So I'm just gonna get right into those recommendations 01:55:00.080 --> 01:55:06.040 - Everyone looks happy one thumbs up and everyone else neutral. Okay, so 01:55:06.040 --> 01:55:14.240 - My font is so tiny here. Okay, so I will say in the past just a quick debrief 01:55:14.240 --> 01:55:17.480 - we have used a rubric for 01:55:18.400 --> 01:55:23.050 - Deciding how these funds will be allocated now that we have our safe streets for all priority 01:55:23.050 --> 01:55:23.600 - network 01:55:23.600 --> 01:55:31.480 - We are using that that network for the recommendations for the sidewalk committee 01:55:31.480 --> 01:55:37.670 - and so that network it the the formula for that high priority safe streets for all network is in 01:55:37.670 --> 01:55:39.400 - the packet as well and 01:55:39.400 --> 01:55:46.320 - As everyone knows I think the safe streets for all plan has been adopted into our city goals in the 01:55:46.320 --> 01:55:47.520 - transportation plan 01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:52.900 - So these recommendations are just pretty much baby steps toward our safe streets for all and 01:55:52.900 --> 01:55:55.400 - transportation plan goals 01:55:55.400 --> 01:55:58.160 - so the first 01:55:58.160 --> 01:56:00.160 - Project that we are recommending 01:56:00.160 --> 01:56:02.800 - It's for an in progress 01:56:02.800 --> 01:56:10.110 - Project and it is sidewalk construction for North Jefferson Street sidewalk. That is that Street is 01:56:10.110 --> 01:56:10.560 - just 01:56:12.040 --> 01:56:17.920 - East of campus so kind of on the east side of Eigenman and everything like that a pretty big 01:56:17.920 --> 01:56:18.960 - corridor for pedestrians 01:56:18.960 --> 01:56:22.440 - and missing sidewalk, so this would be 01:56:22.440 --> 01:56:25.480 - doing 01:56:25.480 --> 01:56:30.670 - 70,000 to partially fund construction of that sidewalk from 8th Street to 10th Street. It is a 01:56:30.670 --> 01:56:32.080 - missing sidewalk link 01:56:32.080 --> 01:56:35.200 - funding for new sidewalk projects 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:41.960 - The first one is a North Union Street crosswalk between 7th and 10th Street 01:56:41.960 --> 01:56:46.400 - This isn't a similar location. It's between Eigenman and Ashton dorms 01:56:46.400 --> 01:56:52.060 - It's where a lot of folks choose to cross the street, but there is no crosswalk 01:56:52.060 --> 01:56:54.000 - there to 01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:57.740 - Hopefully potentially cross in a safer way with drivers 01:56:57.740 --> 01:57:05.560 - It's a really long few blocks there between 7th and 10th that there is no place for people to cross 01:57:06.080 --> 01:57:08.080 - so that would be 01:57:08.080 --> 01:57:14.840 - We recommend 40,000 to fund the design of that and that is on the highest priority 01:57:14.840 --> 01:57:17.520 - network in the safe streets for all 01:57:17.520 --> 01:57:23.560 - Another 01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:25.640 - Let me see. Oh 01:57:25.640 --> 01:57:28.320 - That is 90,000. I'm sorry about that you all that is 01:57:28.320 --> 01:57:35.280 - $90,000 and then another new sidewalk project is to design a north fee lane crosswalk 01:57:35.720 --> 01:57:38.720 - and that is at Law Lane and 01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:46.160 - Around the briscoe dorm. So that would be 40,000 to design that 01:57:46.160 --> 01:57:48.920 - Crosswalk, yeah 01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:53.520 - The issue is there's a bus stop going north on the north side of the street and there's no 01:57:53.520 --> 01:58:00.630 - Crosswalk for students to get to their dorm that is on the west side of the street and it's a place 01:58:00.630 --> 01:58:01.600 - with a lot of 01:58:02.160 --> 01:58:07.560 - vehicle traffic and bike ped traffic and so then the law lane 01:58:07.560 --> 01:58:12.320 - Crosswalk would be an improvement. That's where a law lane tees into fee lane and 01:58:12.320 --> 01:58:14.760 - I 01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:17.440 - Think there are no crosswalks there. So it's kind of a 01:58:17.440 --> 01:58:20.320 - Chaotic 01:58:20.320 --> 01:58:22.960 - Chaotic space for bike ped and drivers 01:58:22.960 --> 01:58:29.870 - Okay, and then the biggest portion of these dollars this time it would be what we are recommending 01:58:29.870 --> 01:58:30.040 - is 01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:33.360 - $2,000 allocated to repaving 01:58:33.360 --> 01:58:35.080 - coordination projects 01:58:35.080 --> 01:58:40.270 - so this committee has talked a lot about kind of getting maybe like a bigger bang for the buck in 01:58:40.270 --> 01:58:40.840 - terms of 01:58:40.840 --> 01:58:43.120 - doing projects that are 01:58:43.120 --> 01:58:48.260 - Already potentially in place whether it's planning and transportation engineering or public works. 01:58:48.260 --> 01:58:49.880 - And so there are a lot of 01:58:49.880 --> 01:58:58.600 - Crosswalks and little connectors that could be redone while public works is repaving and 01:59:00.560 --> 01:59:03.320 - Sidewalks like crosswalks are a part of sidewalks 01:59:03.320 --> 01:59:08.760 - Right and crosswalks are the the most dangerous part of a pedestrian's journey 01:59:08.760 --> 01:59:14.840 - So having proper signage and paint and everything like that and bump outs is really important 01:59:14.840 --> 01:59:20.040 - so one of those examples about like a coordinated project would be 4th Street and 01:59:20.040 --> 01:59:26.880 - Madison Street where they just had some repaving and then also added bump outs to all four corners 01:59:26.880 --> 01:59:28.500 - of that intersection 01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:32.120 - this committee plans to meet again sometime in 01:59:32.120 --> 01:59:34.720 - 2025 to discuss big topics such as 01:59:34.720 --> 01:59:38.760 - What will or should happen to the sidewalk committee moving forward? 01:59:38.760 --> 01:59:43.380 - What should be council's role in sidewalks and the alternative transportation fund? What is the 01:59:43.380 --> 01:59:45.680 - role of public works in this committee? 01:59:45.680 --> 01:59:47.880 - and 01:59:47.880 --> 01:59:52.040 - we are happy to discuss that as a sidewalk committee and bring it back to council or 01:59:52.040 --> 01:59:57.700 - Also potentially may be having it as one of our deliberative sessions if people are so interested 01:59:58.500 --> 02:00:05.060 - Thank you. Great. Thank you. Are there councilmember questions for sidewalk committee? 02:00:05.060 --> 02:00:12.460 - Any questions from anybody for the sidewalk committee? 02:00:12.460 --> 02:00:16.220 - Okay, well I have questions 02:00:16.220 --> 02:00:18.660 - on the 02:00:18.660 --> 02:00:22.260 - update on the 2024 allocations last year, there was 02:00:22.900 --> 02:00:29.490 - Last year there was a $30,000 advocated to Green Acres traffic calming and and actually it looks 02:00:29.490 --> 02:00:31.420 - like there was there's a different 02:00:31.420 --> 02:00:36.460 - Pretty big difference between the allocation and what was spent and so it says that the remaining 02:00:36.460 --> 02:00:36.900 - funds 02:00:36.900 --> 02:00:40.700 - Have been transferred back into the alternative transportation fund 02:00:40.700 --> 02:00:44.880 - But I'm really curious as to what actually happened with those funds, if you know and then 02:00:44.880 --> 02:00:45.540 - specifically 02:00:45.540 --> 02:00:51.810 - what happened to that $30,000 that was supposed to be for Green Acres traffic calming because there 02:00:51.810 --> 02:00:52.120 - was 02:00:52.360 --> 02:00:54.940 - I don't know if you know the answer to this or not 02:00:54.940 --> 02:01:01.970 - But there there was actually a resident led traffic calming request in Green Acres that then didn't 02:01:01.970 --> 02:01:02.840 - get funded 02:01:02.840 --> 02:01:07.760 - and so then it kind of feels like as the district 3 representative I 02:01:07.760 --> 02:01:10.760 - Kind of want to be like hey, what's what's going on with that? 02:01:10.760 --> 02:01:13.480 - $30,000 that could have been spent on that project. Yes 02:01:13.480 --> 02:01:19.320 - So if you remember last year that that traffic calming was added as part of our 02:01:20.240 --> 02:01:23.000 - Sidewalk committee budget right because there were so many 02:01:23.000 --> 02:01:29.580 - traffic calming requests and we decided to kind of do an additional funding of one of them and 02:01:29.580 --> 02:01:35.560 - The bike pad coordinator says in 2024 so basically there's actually 02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:42.240 - $96,000 a little over that that did not get used from the council sidewalk committees 02:01:42.240 --> 02:01:48.280 - budget in the in the fund, but of course the fund is a lot bigger than just us so 02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:54.540 - $1,000 basically, it's kind of neat. Usually bids come in and they're much more than we had 02:01:54.540 --> 02:01:54.960 - imagined 02:01:54.960 --> 02:02:00.200 - But in 2024 bids came in lower than we had imagined and the Green Acres 02:02:00.200 --> 02:02:02.080 - traffic calming 02:02:02.080 --> 02:02:08.170 - Was positioned last on the priority list that we made for the funding from the council sidewalk 02:02:08.170 --> 02:02:08.840 - committee 02:02:08.840 --> 02:02:13.980 - So by the time the funds came in or the bids came in for all the projects that were ahead of it in 02:02:13.980 --> 02:02:14.560 - the prior and 02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:16.160 - our priority list 02:02:16.160 --> 02:02:18.600 - The year was over and they could not 02:02:19.320 --> 02:02:20.640 - get 02:02:20.640 --> 02:02:26.200 - Public engagement and everything done and I get that those dollars out allocated 02:02:26.200 --> 02:02:29.800 - so they reverted back to the AF the ATF and 02:02:29.800 --> 02:02:37.840 - so, I mean so that is like my general answer to that it gets a little harder to be like then where 02:02:37.840 --> 02:02:39.040 - did they go because 02:02:39.040 --> 02:02:43.160 - They didn't they right they got 02:02:43.160 --> 02:02:48.920 - They were reverted back at the very end of 2024. So then you could say they got 02:02:49.840 --> 02:02:57.200 - Potentially moved into 2025 with the ATF, but not they did not stay with council sidewalk committee 02:02:57.200 --> 02:02:58.280 - also because 02:02:58.280 --> 02:03:03.800 - Planning and transportation we talked about it and it made more sense for it to 02:03:03.800 --> 02:03:09.600 - Go back to the general ATF instead of our specific sidewalk committee 02:03:09.600 --> 02:03:13.800 - So they could potentially still use it where we would have to meet again and it would take even 02:03:13.800 --> 02:03:14.240 - longer 02:03:14.720 --> 02:03:21.290 - To get something else in the works. So the controller's office would have to figure out where kind 02:03:21.290 --> 02:03:22.600 - of like that money went 02:03:22.600 --> 02:03:26.120 - If you want to get more specific about it 02:03:26.120 --> 02:03:31.760 - Okay, thank you welcome 02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:41.280 - Any other questions or comments about the sidewalk I have another comment if nobody else has one 02:03:43.680 --> 02:03:45.680 - I'll take another comment then 02:03:45.680 --> 02:03:52.340 - This is I guess a comment and I'm really glad that you guys are meeting again to talk about some 02:03:52.340 --> 02:03:53.960 - sidewalk committee stuff because 02:03:53.960 --> 02:03:57.880 - the fact that the majority of these funds are 02:03:57.880 --> 02:04:05.040 - Kind of allocated in a very general way to the street projects and coordination with public works. 02:04:05.040 --> 02:04:05.800 - Just I mean 02:04:07.040 --> 02:04:13.900 - That is just a really really interesting that part of having this money kind of in council's purview 02:04:13.900 --> 02:04:14.640 - is for council 02:04:14.640 --> 02:04:17.360 - Members to be able to make decisions about it 02:04:17.360 --> 02:04:21.160 - And then the majority of that just went back to the administration for them to be able to make 02:04:21.160 --> 02:04:22.120 - decisions about it 02:04:22.120 --> 02:04:25.600 - and I'm not saying that I necessarily have a problem with that, but I just 02:04:25.600 --> 02:04:32.080 - there's there's a lot of work that we that we could be doing and I I just don't think that we 02:04:32.080 --> 02:04:34.200 - necessarily need to spin our wheels in 02:04:34.840 --> 02:04:39.460 - that kind of way in terms of getting money allocated to a council committee and then 02:04:39.460 --> 02:04:45.350 - Giving that money back to departments to spend in whatever way. So I'll just kind of throw that out 02:04:45.350 --> 02:04:45.840 - there as 02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:53.200 - And an opinion about sidewalk committee funds, I 02:04:53.200 --> 02:04:56.520 - Don't know if that's a question but 02:04:56.520 --> 02:05:02.990 - I'll answer that question. Um, I think that is obviously a perspective and you know, I think folks 02:05:02.990 --> 02:05:04.040 - on the committee have 02:05:04.600 --> 02:05:05.800 - a 02:05:05.800 --> 02:05:09.200 - Discussed a little bit whether or not they want really specific projects or not 02:05:09.200 --> 02:05:13.400 - But when we look at things like equity and like our city goals 02:05:13.400 --> 02:05:17.840 - We there there really are like prescribed 02:05:17.840 --> 02:05:23.440 - ways to use this money and so I mean we do have our safe streets for all plan and 02:05:23.440 --> 02:05:28.830 - From my perspective, I mean when I'm just one committee member but to go outside of that plan and 02:05:28.830 --> 02:05:29.480 - say well 02:05:29.480 --> 02:05:35.930 - This is where right the city and experts and residents are saying we need our network to be but to 02:05:35.930 --> 02:05:36.880 - put it somewhere out 02:05:36.880 --> 02:05:39.960 - Put funding somewhere else to me. That's just lower priority 02:05:39.960 --> 02:05:46.600 - Like pretty much factually because of the work that has already been done to get this connected 02:05:46.600 --> 02:05:48.080 - sidewalk network 02:05:48.080 --> 02:05:53.040 - So I think it is just sort of you know, the the sidewalk committee started in the 1990s and it 02:05:53.040 --> 02:05:54.680 - really kind of was more of a 02:05:57.960 --> 02:06:00.480 - It really seemed a little more like council members saying hey 02:06:00.480 --> 02:06:04.720 - Why don't we put something here and there wasn't a lot of rhyme or rhythm to it? 02:06:04.720 --> 02:06:08.120 - and I think what I've worked on on this committee since I 02:06:08.120 --> 02:06:15.460 - Started on it was to have more equity and more priority and more match up with our 02:06:15.460 --> 02:06:18.080 - city goals 02:06:18.080 --> 02:06:22.600 - Thanks 02:06:24.040 --> 02:06:28.600 - I support that. I guess I want to be clear about that. Yeah, thanks 02:06:28.600 --> 02:06:33.430 - And it is tricky to to say like well if we're giving this money kind of and working with it with 02:06:33.430 --> 02:06:35.200 - public works and planning 02:06:35.200 --> 02:06:37.640 - Does this mean there's less? 02:06:37.640 --> 02:06:41.720 - Right. I mean there's always just such a funding problem and it's like so does this mean 02:06:41.720 --> 02:06:47.200 - It looks like there's less overall because now public works can spend that money 02:06:47.200 --> 02:06:51.440 - on something else or does this mean it's like in addition to 02:06:52.160 --> 02:06:57.130 - Right the fund. I know it's hard. It's hard to explain right, but it's hard to like track money. 02:06:57.130 --> 02:06:57.320 - Yeah 02:06:57.320 --> 02:07:02.520 - Are we gonna end up with a report at some point about which of 02:07:02.520 --> 02:07:06.560 - those repaving coordination projects ended up 02:07:06.560 --> 02:07:08.520 - getting 02:07:08.520 --> 02:07:12.960 - Expanded or improved and in these ways with this probably the bike ped coordinator 02:07:12.960 --> 02:07:16.200 - Well, yeah, because we always get an update on 02:07:18.040 --> 02:07:23.200 - The how the projects went for how they're going. Yeah, that would be great. Thank you 02:07:23.200 --> 02:07:29.660 - Did anybody else think of any other questions besides me about this councilmember Rallo Oh 02:07:29.660 --> 02:07:33.760 - Thanks, I just wanted to give another perspective and that was 02:07:33.760 --> 02:07:40.510 - That when the when the sidewalk committee when the fund was set up and the sidewalk committee would 02:07:40.510 --> 02:07:41.480 - meet it was 02:07:43.600 --> 02:07:48.240 - It served to a larger specs for a conduit for 02:07:48.240 --> 02:07:51.320 - neighborhoods to bring to 02:07:51.320 --> 02:07:55.840 - Council's attention where there's there were deficiencies in 02:07:55.840 --> 02:08:01.520 - connectivity where they saw priorities being in terms of 02:08:01.520 --> 02:08:06.440 - You know where where they needed pedestrian 02:08:06.440 --> 02:08:12.120 - Facilities and so it wasn't just a haphazard 02:08:12.880 --> 02:08:19.400 - Process it was brought to us because it was brought to us by people who were actually 02:08:19.400 --> 02:08:25.760 - You know living in a place where they felt it was hazardous. They didn't have the means to 02:08:25.760 --> 02:08:28.920 - cross the street or walk along a street and 02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:34.200 - the connectivity went unnoticed by planners because it's just 02:08:34.200 --> 02:08:40.680 - You know the city is large and it's complicated and the people who actually live there 02:08:42.000 --> 02:08:43.080 - and 02:08:43.080 --> 02:08:46.760 - Understood what was needed. So I just wanted to add that 02:08:46.760 --> 02:08:49.440 - Thanks 02:08:49.440 --> 02:08:51.440 - Thank you 02:08:51.440 --> 02:08:54.680 - Are there any other councilmember comments or questions? 02:08:54.680 --> 02:08:58.720 - Alright 02:08:58.720 --> 02:09:05.120 - Yeah, yeah, my next thing then is if there are no more other other comments or questions that I'm 02:09:05.120 --> 02:09:07.160 - looking for a motion to 02:09:07.160 --> 02:09:10.040 - approve the 02:09:11.680 --> 02:09:17.600 - Boy I guess I didn't write this one out. I guess it's to approve the report and the recommendations 02:09:17.600 --> 02:09:19.160 - for funding 02:09:19.160 --> 02:09:24.050 - Great. So a motion to approve the funding recommendations as presented by the sidewalk committee. 02:09:24.050 --> 02:09:25.440 - So do I have such a motion? 02:09:25.440 --> 02:09:28.840 - So moved 02:09:28.840 --> 02:09:31.440 - Second 02:09:31.440 --> 02:09:34.240 - Thank you very much 02:09:34.240 --> 02:09:38.000 - Any last comments 02:09:39.280 --> 02:09:42.720 - Councilor Piedmont Smith. Well, just to say I'm looking forward to 02:09:42.720 --> 02:09:49.110 - additional conversations about the sidewalk fund and the the most effective and efficient use of 02:09:49.110 --> 02:09:53.120 - the funds and with council input but also following our 02:09:53.120 --> 02:09:56.280 - safe streets for all plan and 02:09:56.280 --> 02:09:57.800 - that there 02:09:57.800 --> 02:10:04.360 - There are some items that are unclear in in the report and I think we'll seek to get more clarity 02:10:04.360 --> 02:10:05.800 - in the coming months 02:10:05.800 --> 02:10:08.880 - Great. Thank you other comments 02:10:08.920 --> 02:10:10.120 - Yes 02:10:10.120 --> 02:10:15.300 - Will the clerk please call the roll on the motion to approve the recommendations in the sidewalk 02:10:15.300 --> 02:10:17.760 - committee report councilmember Flaherty 02:10:17.760 --> 02:10:21.600 - Yay, Ruff. Yeah, Rallo 02:10:21.600 --> 02:10:24.640 - Yes, Piedmont Smith 02:10:24.640 --> 02:10:32.200 - Yes, Stossberg. Yes, Daly. Yes, Zulek. Yay, Rosenberger. Yes. Sorry. Yay. Thanks 02:10:32.200 --> 02:10:37.240 - Thank you, and and that passes with a vote of 9-0 02:10:38.480 --> 02:10:44.400 - Next we have a report from the Jack Hopkins committee and just to be really clear 02:10:44.400 --> 02:10:49.640 - We also have have a resolution later with the Jack Hopkins committee. And so the report and the 02:10:49.640 --> 02:10:50.240 - resolution 02:10:50.240 --> 02:10:55.660 - The the general report and the funding recommendations do need to be dealt with separately this 02:10:55.660 --> 02:10:56.640 - evening. Thank you 02:10:56.640 --> 02:11:04.200 - Well, thank you all so much for letting me speak in this marathon of reports 02:11:04.720 --> 02:11:09.640 - Tonight and thank you to the public who've been here. I mean it is almost nine o'clock 02:11:09.640 --> 02:11:14.440 - And I am very much eagerly looking forward to public comment. So I will be as quick as possible 02:11:14.440 --> 02:11:15.160 - here 02:11:15.160 --> 02:11:19.240 - To my fellow council members who are on this committee 02:11:19.240 --> 02:11:25.900 - Please feel free to interject if there's anything that I leave out in this summation of the report 02:11:25.900 --> 02:11:26.760 - that's already in the packet 02:11:26.760 --> 02:11:29.840 - But this year marks the 33rd 02:11:30.400 --> 02:11:34.880 - Cycle of the Jack Hopkins program named for former council member Jack Hopkins 02:11:34.880 --> 02:11:39.840 - Which has distributed to this point over six point two million dollars in grants since 02:11:39.840 --> 02:11:42.320 - 1993 02:11:42.320 --> 02:11:44.040 - the goal of the 02:11:44.040 --> 02:11:49.240 - Hopkins fund is to support the most vulnerable in our community and in 2025 02:11:49.240 --> 02:11:51.760 - We had allocated 02:11:51.760 --> 02:11:54.920 - $500,000 in new funds and there was an additional 02:11:54.920 --> 02:11:58.240 - $30,000 left over from previous years 02:11:59.040 --> 02:12:01.820 - And so we're recommending a total 02:12:01.820 --> 02:12:07.200 - allocation this year of five hundred and ten thousand three hundred and seventy seven and 02:12:07.200 --> 02:12:13.880 - Twenty-seven cents we received 38 applications requesting nearly one million dollars in funding 02:12:13.880 --> 02:12:15.460 - almost double 02:12:15.460 --> 02:12:22.040 - What we could allocate and so after rigorous review and discussion, which is all available 02:12:23.600 --> 02:12:29.200 - Publicly, they were all open door meetings. We're recommending grants to 35 agencies 02:12:29.200 --> 02:12:34.810 - And programs the committee consisted of four council members and three community members with 02:12:34.810 --> 02:12:36.360 - social service experiences 02:12:36.360 --> 02:12:42.780 - And I would like to thank my colleagues Courtney daily Dave Rallo Andy rough and our public 02:12:42.780 --> 02:12:47.960 - members Nordia McNish Cameron green Greer sorry and Eddie Rue 02:12:47.960 --> 02:12:51.160 - For their thoughtful work and also want to recognize 02:12:52.280 --> 02:12:57.900 - Director Killian Hansen and Cody Toothman from hand. They're not here anymore, but for their vital 02:12:57.900 --> 02:13:00.080 - support and to city 02:13:00.080 --> 02:13:02.440 - council staff 02:13:02.440 --> 02:13:06.440 - For their incredible work and support here this year 02:13:06.440 --> 02:13:10.640 - We introduced two key improvements sort of following up on the recommendations from last year's 02:13:10.640 --> 02:13:15.520 - Committee the first was an adoption of a formal scoring rubric 02:13:15.520 --> 02:13:19.520 - At least a pilot of such to bring greater transparency and structure 02:13:20.040 --> 02:13:24.600 - Though we agree that it needs significant refinement for future cycles 02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:28.240 - But it was I think a step in the right direction. We all agreed 02:13:28.240 --> 02:13:33.960 - Secondly, we streamlined interviews in the past really for the last in 30 years 02:13:33.960 --> 02:13:41.600 - What the tradition of this committee has been to hold very very long interviews where? 02:13:41.600 --> 02:13:47.190 - Every single person who applied would be invited to an interview for the most for the most part and 02:13:47.190 --> 02:13:48.940 - then just given about three minutes 02:13:49.320 --> 02:13:54.080 - To more or less go over the same things that they went over in their application 02:13:54.080 --> 02:13:58.880 - What we chose to do this year is only invite people who we had questions for to come 02:13:58.880 --> 02:14:02.670 - We asked them pointed questions and we asked that they use their interview time to answer those 02:14:02.670 --> 02:14:03.240 - questions 02:14:03.240 --> 02:14:05.240 - And I think we thought that this 02:14:05.240 --> 02:14:11.360 - Was gave us better time to really dive in and do due diligence on things that we were unclear about 02:14:11.360 --> 02:14:15.640 - I think it also made our process more efficient which without compromising 02:14:16.360 --> 02:14:20.240 - Fairness we also noted in the report several areas for future improvement 02:14:20.240 --> 02:14:24.920 - One I think something that we've said every year is that our timeline is so compressed 02:14:24.920 --> 02:14:31.130 - And and so we recommend starting a bit earlier and adding a couple of meetings to give the 02:14:31.130 --> 02:14:33.200 - committee a bit more time for deliberation 02:14:33.200 --> 02:14:41.040 - We discussed also tying into our work to moving towards outcome-based budgeting about setting 02:14:41.040 --> 02:14:42.160 - perhaps yearly 02:14:42.160 --> 02:14:44.360 - specific funding priorities as a body 02:14:45.680 --> 02:14:51.480 - Not as a committee, but rather as a city council so that as we appoint the committee each year 02:14:51.480 --> 02:14:55.670 - Or perhaps it could happen earlier during our budget session that we sort of tie a set of 02:14:55.670 --> 02:14:57.400 - priorities that we want 02:14:57.400 --> 02:15:01.220 - This this funding to prioritize right to address 02:15:01.220 --> 02:15:05.760 - Otherwise right now we're sort of treating all emergency needs sort of equally 02:15:05.760 --> 02:15:10.100 - Which I think was was a little bit of a challenge for us 02:15:10.280 --> 02:15:16.530 - And then we're we're also interested in exploring potential changes to the application process 02:15:16.530 --> 02:15:17.080 - itself 02:15:17.080 --> 02:15:21.570 - potentially looking at things like a universal application so that people can just apply sort of 02:15:21.570 --> 02:15:22.760 - once to multiple 02:15:22.760 --> 02:15:25.640 - City funds and perhaps even that might give us opportunities to 02:15:25.640 --> 02:15:31.840 - Collaborate with the county on something like that and above all we reaffirm the importance of 02:15:31.840 --> 02:15:37.810 - Increasing the Jack Hopkins fund the needs in our community far exceed our current capacity to 02:15:37.810 --> 02:15:38.360 - respond 02:15:38.800 --> 02:15:44.070 - And so we're voting later today on the resolution to approve these recommendations allocate the 02:15:44.070 --> 02:15:45.240 - funds and authorize 02:15:45.240 --> 02:15:50.120 - Related administrative costs. I think there is also a technical assistance meeting already 02:15:50.120 --> 02:15:51.720 - scheduled for grantees 02:15:51.720 --> 02:15:58.000 - For June 16th, I believe and so in closing just want to thank everybody for their work 02:15:58.000 --> 02:16:01.440 - I'm in our community and it is such a pleasure to be on this committee 02:16:01.440 --> 02:16:06.370 - You learn so much about the amazing work that so many people across this community are doing to 02:16:06.370 --> 02:16:07.320 - keep Bloomington 02:16:07.880 --> 02:16:10.440 - Safe secure and moving forward. Thank you so much 02:16:10.440 --> 02:16:17.560 - Council members are you can you deal with the conflict of interest disclosure statements that we 02:16:17.560 --> 02:16:18.680 - need I will pass over to 02:16:18.680 --> 02:16:24.400 - Make a motion 02:16:24.400 --> 02:16:30.640 - That the uniform conflict of interest disclosure statements of Nordia McNish and Eddie Rue jr 02:16:30.640 --> 02:16:36.440 - And their participation in the committee be approved and accepted by roll call vote, please 02:16:37.440 --> 02:16:39.440 - Thank you 02:16:39.440 --> 02:16:46.640 - The equipment of commentary here in the past if there's ever been a community member 02:16:46.640 --> 02:16:50.560 - So the the the committee is required to have community members 02:16:50.560 --> 02:16:52.600 - that 02:16:52.600 --> 02:16:55.520 - have experience with social agencies 02:16:55.520 --> 02:17:01.110 - And as a consequence, it's it's common that those those people selected for the committee might 02:17:01.110 --> 02:17:03.080 - have some conflicts of interest 02:17:03.640 --> 02:17:08.040 - the way that we deal with this is by having them disclose those conflicts of interest and then not 02:17:08.040 --> 02:17:10.000 - allowing them to either vote or 02:17:10.000 --> 02:17:13.040 - Contribute to discussion around agencies to which they disclose 02:17:13.040 --> 02:17:20.020 - Areas of in of conflict in the past these letters of conflict of interest would be signed by the 02:17:20.020 --> 02:17:21.240 - office of the mayor 02:17:21.240 --> 02:17:28.720 - But this year they've recommended that the committee chair signed those so that's what we are doing 02:17:30.600 --> 02:17:36.840 - Yeah, and just to clarify because the committee chair has typically appointed those community 02:17:36.840 --> 02:17:37.520 - members 02:17:37.520 --> 02:17:42.780 - So that's why they're wanting to do it this time. Do you think I have any questions or concerns 02:17:42.780 --> 02:17:44.000 - about the conflicts of interest? 02:17:44.000 --> 02:17:49.740 - Any questions or concerns about the report 02:17:49.740 --> 02:17:59.200 - Councilmember Piedmont Smith. Yeah, we do but I just am taking questions first. I guess yeah 02:18:00.200 --> 02:18:04.960 - So I do have a question. It's not about the conflict of interest. Okay. Well 02:18:04.960 --> 02:18:08.520 - It's a quick. Yeah 02:18:08.520 --> 02:18:10.520 - Okay 02:18:10.520 --> 02:18:14.840 - Will the clerk please call the roll on the conflict of interest councilmember Ruff 02:18:14.840 --> 02:18:17.320 - Rallo 02:18:17.320 --> 02:18:24.520 - Yes, Piedmont Smith. Yes, Stossburg. Yes, Daley. Yes, Zulek. Yes, Rosenberger. Yes, sorry 02:18:24.520 --> 02:18:27.880 - Yes, and Flaherty. Yes. Thanks. Great. Thank you 02:18:28.600 --> 02:18:31.880 - Councilmember Piedmont Smith. I just want to ask 02:18:31.880 --> 02:18:39.160 - Counts councilmember Osari mentioned a rubric that was used for scoring 02:18:39.160 --> 02:18:46.600 - The applications I don't find that in our packet. Is that something you can share with colleagues? 02:18:46.600 --> 02:18:47.080 - Absolutely 02:18:47.080 --> 02:18:54.560 - It is in the packet if you click one of the links and the other Jack Hopkins stuff I found it 02:18:54.560 --> 02:18:57.000 - Yeah, it's somewhere in there 02:18:57.720 --> 02:19:02.560 - Regardless, I'll send back around and it should be posted publicly for people to be able to see it 02:19:02.560 --> 02:19:06.680 - Again, the caveat being that I think this was very much a sort of pilot 02:19:06.680 --> 02:19:12.520 - We set up good intentions and then in deliberation some of it broke down and we were aware of that 02:19:12.520 --> 02:19:15.800 - But instead of sort of going back to redo the the rubric 02:19:15.800 --> 02:19:19.440 - We you know sort of took note of all these things for future years 02:19:19.440 --> 02:19:24.200 - So I don't think it's a perfect rubric by any means this year basically gave us a standard 02:19:24.200 --> 02:19:25.520 - vocabulary to all 02:19:26.240 --> 02:19:30.820 - Talk about while while reviewing and make sure that everybody sort of reviewed them through the 02:19:30.820 --> 02:19:31.940 - same lens 02:19:31.940 --> 02:19:35.840 - That's but yeah had some had some limitations. I would say for sure 02:19:35.840 --> 02:19:38.440 - Great. Thank you 02:19:38.440 --> 02:19:40.440 - in addition to 02:19:40.440 --> 02:19:44.480 - The link that you referred to Hopi the rubric also is 02:19:44.480 --> 02:19:50.440 - Posted on the website related to various meetings of the Jack Hopkins committee 02:19:50.440 --> 02:19:53.480 - Great. Thank you 02:19:54.000 --> 02:19:56.820 - Are there any other questions about the report? 02:19:56.820 --> 02:20:02.080 - Wonderful, we finally moved on to reports from the public 02:20:02.080 --> 02:20:07.440 - So now we have finally entered the reports from the public time 02:20:07.440 --> 02:20:12.860 - So if you are a member of the public who would like to make a comment on an item not on the agenda 02:20:12.860 --> 02:20:16.440 - If you could please make your way to the podium 02:20:16.440 --> 02:20:23.370 - If you're online and would like to make a comment if you could use the reactions tab to raise your 02:20:23.370 --> 02:20:23.720 - hand 02:20:23.800 --> 02:20:27.160 - Or you can send a chat message to the host either way 02:20:27.160 --> 02:20:31.280 - You will have up to three minutes to say your piece 02:20:31.280 --> 02:20:36.820 - I do have somebody at the podium right now and I see him signing in. Thank you very much 02:20:36.820 --> 02:20:39.520 - If you could state your name for the record 02:20:39.520 --> 02:20:43.660 - Actually, I'm gonna make sure that our staff has the timer all set 02:20:43.660 --> 02:20:45.680 - wonderful 02:20:45.680 --> 02:20:47.680 - Thank you. Go ahead 02:20:48.780 --> 02:20:53.430 - Good evening, madam president council members. This is Christopher energy representing the Greater 02:20:53.430 --> 02:20:55.520 - Bloomington Chamber of Commerce and our nearly 02:20:55.520 --> 02:20:59.580 - 900 members 80% of them are small businesses 02:20:59.580 --> 02:21:02.120 - your friends your neighbors 02:21:02.120 --> 02:21:07.020 - I'm I'm here tonight to talk about a critical issue affecting our local economy 02:21:07.020 --> 02:21:11.560 - And that's the permitting and development process in the city of Bloomington. I was very encouraged 02:21:11.560 --> 02:21:12.240 - tonight by 02:21:12.880 --> 02:21:17.990 - Director Hill's comments regarding the residential side. I'm working with CBU on this. I think we're 02:21:17.990 --> 02:21:19.260 - making great progress 02:21:19.260 --> 02:21:22.580 - But the process for businesses, we know it is broken 02:21:22.580 --> 02:21:25.200 - across all sectors 02:21:25.200 --> 02:21:30.920 - What I hear from my messages and from our members is the permitting process takes too long. It's 02:21:30.920 --> 02:21:31.740 - too rigid 02:21:31.740 --> 02:21:34.560 - It's unpredictable and very unclear 02:21:34.560 --> 02:21:40.000 - business, especially small locally owned variety are losing time money and 02:21:40.560 --> 02:21:44.920 - Opportunity while they're trying to comply with a system that is not built with them in mind 02:21:44.920 --> 02:21:48.680 - Looking around we see a lot of empty commercial space 02:21:48.680 --> 02:21:56.450 - Bloomington is visible commercial vacancy problem of retail strips standalone buildings even 02:21:56.450 --> 02:21:58.180 - downtown properties empty 02:21:58.180 --> 02:22:03.980 - The cost of bringing a new tenant into a space often triggers a full site plan requirement under 02:22:03.980 --> 02:22:04.640 - the UDO 02:22:04.860 --> 02:22:10.650 - Requiring upgrades to landscaping parking and more even if it's not even a new use. It's the same 02:22:10.650 --> 02:22:12.520 - as the last this approach 02:22:12.520 --> 02:22:15.160 - punishes reuse and reinvestment 02:22:15.160 --> 02:22:18.040 - We need to ask ourselves. Are we? 02:22:18.040 --> 02:22:23.700 - Incentivizing revitalization or unintentionally promoting vacancy in this process 02:22:23.700 --> 02:22:30.080 - We look at the Hopewell or canary in the coal mine the former IU hospital site now 02:22:30.080 --> 02:22:36.200 - Hopewell is a showcase for what is not working at least with zoning many parcels 02:22:36.200 --> 02:22:42.240 - There are zone medical making it nearly impossible to lease restaurants retail office users without 02:22:42.240 --> 02:22:43.180 - complex 02:22:43.180 --> 02:22:49.220 - Zoning process so we have this very transformative neighborhood. I'm very excited about yet 02:22:49.220 --> 02:22:52.420 - We're sort of choking its potential at the zoning point around it 02:22:52.420 --> 02:22:55.480 - We can't afford to stall business growth 02:22:55.480 --> 02:23:00.100 - I think what we've heard in this meeting and many others is the Senate bill wanted significantly 02:23:00.100 --> 02:23:02.460 - impacts local revenue sources 02:23:02.460 --> 02:23:08.800 - If we don't grow our commercial tax base, we risk facing hard choices on public service. Let's be 02:23:08.800 --> 02:23:09.140 - clear 02:23:09.140 --> 02:23:16.160 - Business growth is not optional. It is essential so protecting this Bloomington's fiscal future 02:23:16.160 --> 02:23:21.280 - Requires that a system doesn't block our entrepreneurs before they even get started 02:23:23.640 --> 02:23:26.080 - Recommended some things that might work in the future, but let's just 02:23:26.080 --> 02:23:33.000 - Think about reframing the word equity to include the barber the Baker and the first-time 02:23:33.000 --> 02:23:33.880 - entrepreneur and 02:23:33.880 --> 02:23:39.280 - People who deserve a shot at building something without facing six-figure barriers just to open 02:23:39.280 --> 02:23:39.920 - their doors 02:23:39.920 --> 02:23:45.530 - The chamber is ready to work with the city of Bloomington build that system. We don't see problems. 02:23:45.530 --> 02:23:46.320 - We see solutions 02:23:46.320 --> 02:23:52.040 - We want to support a thriving diverse business community and a more resilient tax base. Thank you 02:23:52.360 --> 02:23:54.360 - Thank you 02:23:54.360 --> 02:23:59.200 - Council attorney 02:23:59.200 --> 02:24:01.400 - Lainer is there anybody use racer handled zoom? 02:24:01.400 --> 02:24:04.000 - No, okay. Thank you 02:24:04.000 --> 02:24:08.530 - Looks like we do have another commenter if you could go ahead and sign in and then state your name 02:24:08.530 --> 02:24:09.920 - for the record and you'll 02:24:09.920 --> 02:24:11.920 - Have up to three minutes 02:24:19.400 --> 02:24:25.040 - Hello everyone, I know we have a lot of stuff to discuss tonight, so I don't want to disrupt this 02:24:25.040 --> 02:24:25.480 - process 02:24:25.480 --> 02:24:29.680 - But I just want to very quickly introduce myself. My name is Julius Mitchell. I am the new 02:24:29.680 --> 02:24:32.240 - legislative affairs specialist in the office of the mayor 02:24:32.240 --> 02:24:36.720 - So I'm gonna be sitting in on a lot of these meetings going forward 02:24:36.720 --> 02:24:40.850 - So I didn't want you guys to have to guess who I am. I figured it would be best to just tell you up 02:24:40.850 --> 02:24:41.200 - front 02:24:41.200 --> 02:24:46.780 - So in the interest of time, it's nice to meet you all and I look forward to working together 02:24:48.600 --> 02:24:50.600 - Thank you and welcome 02:24:50.600 --> 02:24:56.950 - Is there anybody else in chambers who would like to make a public comment tonight on items not on 02:24:56.950 --> 02:24:57.700 - the agenda 02:24:57.700 --> 02:25:04.120 - Has anybody raised their hand on zoom? Yes, we do see one. Okay. Thank you. When you are unmuted 02:25:04.120 --> 02:25:07.660 - You'll have up to three minutes. Please state your name for the record 02:25:07.660 --> 02:25:13.920 - Good evening council members. My name is Jennifer possibly and I come to you 02:25:14.400 --> 02:25:19.840 - And my capacity as council president of the Monroe County Council. I just wanted to say 02:25:19.840 --> 02:25:26.720 - I appreciate, you know yesterday was the groundbreaking ceremony of the Convention Center expansion 02:25:26.720 --> 02:25:31.840 - And I appreciate it cross collaboration efforts from both city and county elected 02:25:31.840 --> 02:25:38.330 - I know overwhelmingly majority of elected supported this project and one thing that really kind of 02:25:38.330 --> 02:25:40.520 - grabbed my attention in this particular meeting 02:25:40.520 --> 02:25:45.640 - And besides just being nerdy and having nothing else to do to watch the meeting this evening was 02:25:45.640 --> 02:25:46.320 - council member 02:25:46.320 --> 02:25:49.240 - Rosenberger's comment regarding the 02:25:49.240 --> 02:25:53.280 - affordable housing units that are going to 02:25:53.280 --> 02:25:57.240 - that are proposed to be coming down and 02:25:57.240 --> 02:26:03.710 - I think about this because I too had a constituent that reached out and wants to talk to me about 02:26:03.710 --> 02:26:04.040 - that 02:26:04.040 --> 02:26:09.400 - But in the spirit of collaboration since we all like to say that word 02:26:10.120 --> 02:26:16.720 - I really would like to challenge our city colleagues to come talk to us here in the county again 02:26:16.720 --> 02:26:23.080 - Just Clinton at Stanema Financial Lane as the fiscal body member of the county just one of seven 02:26:23.080 --> 02:26:26.120 - I am very much interested in what is going to happen 02:26:26.120 --> 02:26:32.040 - But as much talks that we've had happen tonight regarding affordable and attainable housing 02:26:32.040 --> 02:26:36.200 - I think that it's up to although those buildings are county-owned and 02:26:36.640 --> 02:26:42.670 - They are also in city limits. That's something that should be on both bodies to figure out how we 02:26:42.670 --> 02:26:44.760 - can make this right for those 02:26:44.760 --> 02:26:48.000 - Tenants as well. So I put a call to action 02:26:48.000 --> 02:26:54.350 - to not just talk about it, but to also be about it and I look forward to having welcoming 02:26:54.350 --> 02:26:57.240 - conversations with city colleagues to figure out 02:26:57.240 --> 02:27:03.160 - How we can truly talk about the collaboration and making affordable housing and attainable housing 02:27:03.160 --> 02:27:05.080 - for our residents 02:27:05.080 --> 02:27:07.080 - So thank you for your time 02:27:07.080 --> 02:27:10.080 - Thank you 02:27:10.080 --> 02:27:16.160 - Are there any I don't see anybody else moving in chambers and anybody else raise a hand on zoom. No 02:27:16.160 --> 02:27:19.320 - Okay 02:27:19.320 --> 02:27:24.700 - Thank you very much for your public comments tonight and if you change your mind there'll be 02:27:24.700 --> 02:27:26.400 - another public comment period at the end of the 02:27:26.400 --> 02:27:27.440 - meeting 02:27:27.440 --> 02:27:32.580 - Moving on to appointments to boards and commissions. Do I have a motion? 02:27:32.580 --> 02:27:34.580 - Motion 02:27:34.580 --> 02:27:37.380 - Councilmember Daley 02:27:37.380 --> 02:27:40.420 - Thank you on behalf of 02:27:40.420 --> 02:27:43.380 - interview committee team B, I 02:27:43.380 --> 02:27:47.660 - Would like to make the following recommendation for the Transportation Commission 02:27:47.660 --> 02:27:50.540 - We recommend 02:27:50.540 --> 02:27:52.860 - Barbara McKinney to seat C 1 02:27:52.860 --> 02:27:58.340 - Stephen Boland to seat C 2 and Brian Drumie to seat C 3 02:27:58.340 --> 02:28:01.500 - second 02:28:01.500 --> 02:28:08.330 - Thank you. Does anybody have any questions about the recommendations from team B council members? 02:28:08.330 --> 02:28:08.500 - Sorry 02:28:08.500 --> 02:28:13.980 - I'm just just a very brief one to what extent because I know 02:28:13.980 --> 02:28:24.980 - Wonderful wonderful recommendations the there had been some discussion about the role of this 02:28:24.980 --> 02:28:31.020 - Of this of this body particularly as pertaining to the now defunct 02:28:31.900 --> 02:28:35.260 - parking Commission and to what extent did 02:28:35.260 --> 02:28:38.500 - conversations about how 02:28:38.500 --> 02:28:44.780 - What the what the purpose of this body is going to be come up amongst the people that you 02:28:44.780 --> 02:28:46.740 - are 02:28:46.740 --> 02:28:48.740 - appointing 02:28:48.740 --> 02:28:54.700 - Well in particular 02:28:54.700 --> 02:28:55.940 - regarding the 02:28:55.940 --> 02:29:01.770 - Now defunct parking Commission to for example, that was we had a lot of really good applicants. We 02:29:01.770 --> 02:29:04.220 - had I think nine applicants for three seats 02:29:04.220 --> 02:29:09.250 - Many of them were from the parking Commission. So we wanted to make sure that we were representing 02:29:09.250 --> 02:29:11.800 - all of the units that were 02:29:11.800 --> 02:29:16.900 - Being combined into this new Transportation Commission. And so, you know that was 02:29:16.900 --> 02:29:20.140 - We had to be very choosy about our representation 02:29:20.140 --> 02:29:22.940 - Unfortunately because we had so so little 02:29:23.620 --> 02:29:26.460 - Space for everybody we would have loved everybody's expertise 02:29:26.460 --> 02:29:32.370 - But we wanted to make sure that we were covering all those areas together that we felt everything 02:29:32.370 --> 02:29:34.460 - was fairly well represented in this in this new 02:29:34.460 --> 02:29:36.900 - body 02:29:36.900 --> 02:29:42.260 - Because I realized I realized that I didn't ask my ask my question very clearly 02:29:42.260 --> 02:29:47.460 - We had the notes. It's my fault. I wasn't communicating clearly and it's late. I'm sorry 02:29:48.740 --> 02:29:53.590 - When when we approved this commission, we had some discussions about whether or not to include 02:29:53.590 --> 02:29:56.060 - stronger language about parking as an example 02:29:56.060 --> 02:29:58.100 - the 02:29:58.100 --> 02:30:03.420 - Operative clauses of the Parking Commission whether those powers should remain with the with the 02:30:03.420 --> 02:30:05.540 - with this new commission 02:30:05.540 --> 02:30:12.950 - Which is now fairly advisory in its function. Was that a conversation that was had because I know 02:30:12.950 --> 02:30:14.220 - that and I mean, I am 02:30:15.100 --> 02:30:18.780 - The reason this is difficult to have I'm not trying to call anybody specifically out 02:30:18.780 --> 02:30:24.820 - But but I mean people who you've just mentioned made comments saying that we should keep 02:30:24.820 --> 02:30:30.260 - This commission as a Parking Commission or keep the elements of the Parking Commission in we didn't 02:30:30.260 --> 02:30:31.540 - choose to do that 02:30:31.540 --> 02:30:35.940 - so I'm curious whether or not that conversation came up as part of your 02:30:35.940 --> 02:30:38.700 - appointment procedures 02:30:38.700 --> 02:30:41.300 - with the candidates that we're appointing I 02:30:43.260 --> 02:30:48.540 - Don't believe that it did am I misremembering or am I yeah, that was not part of our conversation 02:30:48.540 --> 02:30:54.100 - Are there other questions 02:30:54.100 --> 02:30:59.740 - I do have a question that cc3 is 02:30:59.740 --> 02:31:08.700 - The the way that it's titled on onboard as they wanted to be MCC SC affiliated in some way is that 02:31:09.220 --> 02:31:15.720 - We had only one applicant who was MCC SC affiliated and unfortunately he did not live in city 02:31:15.720 --> 02:31:16.140 - limits 02:31:16.140 --> 02:31:18.140 - Which was one of the requirements 02:31:18.140 --> 02:31:23.340 - We we opted for this candidate had 02:31:23.340 --> 02:31:26.660 - Any other good 02:31:26.660 --> 02:31:28.660 - reasons also as a 02:31:28.660 --> 02:31:31.020 - What we felt was an attractive appointment 02:31:31.020 --> 02:31:35.620 - But also thought this candidate has young children and they bike a lot and we thought well 02:31:35.620 --> 02:31:40.080 - That's the closest maybe that we can get to that that perspective so that was yet 02:31:40.080 --> 02:31:44.520 - Another element that we took into consideration since we could not get we did not have an MCC SC 02:31:44.520 --> 02:31:45.140 - applicant 02:31:45.140 --> 02:31:48.420 - Okay, thank you 02:31:48.420 --> 02:31:53.340 - Any other questions councilmember Flaherty? Yeah. Thank you for bringing that up customer Stossberg 02:31:53.340 --> 02:31:54.940 - and just following up on the same point. I I 02:31:54.940 --> 02:31:57.100 - know our 02:31:57.100 --> 02:32:00.260 - Outreach methods are varied for how we recruit to commissions 02:32:00.260 --> 02:32:05.560 - But does anyone know if by chance of folks at MCC SC 02:32:05.560 --> 02:32:10.700 - Were contacted about the appointment and that was okay. They had been yeah 02:32:10.700 --> 02:32:15.400 - I actually messaged the superintendent and spoke with her in person about it, and I think that the 02:32:15.400 --> 02:32:16.120 - mayor did as well 02:32:16.120 --> 02:32:18.980 - Thank you. Yeah 02:32:18.980 --> 02:32:22.340 - Other questions 02:32:22.340 --> 02:32:26.620 - If the clerk could please call the role on 02:32:26.620 --> 02:32:29.380 - these 02:32:29.380 --> 02:32:31.380 - interview team recommendations 02:32:31.380 --> 02:32:33.540 - Councilmember Rallo 02:32:33.540 --> 02:32:36.420 - Yes, Piedmont Smith 02:32:36.420 --> 02:32:38.740 - Yes, Stossberg. Yes 02:32:38.740 --> 02:32:46.500 - Daly. Yes, Zulek. Yes Rosenberger. Yes. I'm sorry. Yes Flaherty. Yes and rough 02:32:46.500 --> 02:32:55.420 - Thank you that passes 9-0 and now we have finally reached legislation for the evening 02:32:55.420 --> 02:32:57.260 - and 02:32:57.260 --> 02:33:02.020 - Please keep in mind that we did change the order on this and the updated agenda that went out this 02:33:02.020 --> 02:33:02.540 - afternoon 02:33:02.540 --> 02:33:05.240 - So we should be starting with ordinance 2025 22 02:33:05.240 --> 02:33:15.420 - All right, then in that case I move ordinance 2025 - 22 be introduced and read by the city clerk 02:33:15.420 --> 02:33:18.600 - By title and synopsis only second 02:33:18.600 --> 02:33:24.180 - Thank you. Will the clerk please call the roll on the motion to introduce just for clarity. We have 02:33:24.180 --> 02:33:24.900 - to call the roll on 02:33:26.300 --> 02:33:28.900 - All of these motions tonight because we have a member online 02:33:28.900 --> 02:33:32.700 - Councilmember Piedmont Smith. Yes 02:33:32.700 --> 02:33:35.100 - daily 02:33:35.100 --> 02:33:37.100 - Sorry Stossburg. Yes 02:33:37.100 --> 02:33:41.180 - Panicked yes 02:33:41.180 --> 02:33:45.120 - Zulik yes Rosenberger. Yes. Sorry 02:33:45.120 --> 02:33:48.340 - Flaherty. Yes rough 02:33:48.340 --> 02:33:50.820 - and Rallo 02:33:50.820 --> 02:33:52.180 - Yes 02:33:52.180 --> 02:33:54.180 - Thank you. Will the clerk please read? 02:33:54.180 --> 02:33:56.180 - Yes 02:33:56.180 --> 02:34:07.820 - Ordinance 20 20 25 - 22 authorizing and approving a payment in lieu of taxes 02:34:07.820 --> 02:34:11.180 - pilot agreement with Henderson court housing LLP 02:34:11.180 --> 02:34:13.820 - the synopsis is 02:34:13.820 --> 02:34:18.810 - The Indiana code provides the opportunity for municipalities and owner developers to partner in the 02:34:18.810 --> 02:34:20.780 - development of affordable housing 02:34:21.100 --> 02:34:28.020 - Through a payment in lieu of taxes known as a pilot agreement per I see thirty six - one - eight - 02:34:28.020 --> 02:34:29.080 - fourteen point three 02:34:29.080 --> 02:34:34.650 - This agreement ensures that the city receives some taxes from the property owner on real property 02:34:34.650 --> 02:34:37.080 - subject to a tax exemption under state law 02:34:37.080 --> 02:34:43.360 - The Indiana code requires the developer to agree to the terms of the pilot including the amounts 02:34:43.360 --> 02:34:45.660 - and timing of the payments to the city 02:34:45.980 --> 02:34:51.710 - the common council must approve the pilot by passing an ordinance if approved the Honda's Henderson 02:34:51.710 --> 02:34:53.300 - court pilot will result in the 02:34:53.300 --> 02:34:55.260 - rehabilitation of 02:34:55.260 --> 02:34:58.980 - 150 affordable apartment units in an affordable housing community 02:34:58.980 --> 02:35:05.460 - The pilot will serve families whose household income is 60% or below the area median income 02:35:05.460 --> 02:35:13.780 - Thank you, I move that ordinance 2025 - 22 be adopted second 02:35:15.220 --> 02:35:18.300 - All right. Thank you. Who do we have to present? 02:35:18.300 --> 02:35:21.860 - 2025 22 today 02:35:21.860 --> 02:35:30.100 - Sustainable development and I'm here tonight with Janine Betsy director of tax credit 02:35:30.100 --> 02:35:36.180 - Development for the gene be Glick company and Danny Miller and I didn't catch your title 02:35:36.180 --> 02:35:43.410 - Development manager, so we'll I'll present and then we'll have Janine and Danny for color 02:35:43.410 --> 02:35:44.860 - commentary as needed 02:35:45.580 --> 02:35:47.540 - If that's all right 02:35:47.540 --> 02:35:52.540 - okay, first, I want to acknowledge that I have the ordinance numbers incorrectly listed on the 02:35:52.540 --> 02:35:55.540 - Main slide here. So that's obviously 02:35:55.540 --> 02:36:00.420 - 2521 and 2522 my overview 02:36:00.420 --> 02:36:04.820 - Summarizes some general information about 02:36:04.820 --> 02:36:07.340 - both 02:36:07.340 --> 02:36:11.600 - Proposals and then gets into the specifics. So I'll just dive in 02:36:13.420 --> 02:36:18.660 - I'll give you a brief overview of pilots an overview of the company details on each property a 02:36:18.660 --> 02:36:20.740 - summary of the proposed agreements and a 02:36:20.740 --> 02:36:22.740 - summary of outreach to local government units 02:36:22.740 --> 02:36:29.470 - So here payment in lieu of taxes or pilot agreements are facilitated by state code and administered 02:36:29.470 --> 02:36:30.620 - on a local level 02:36:30.620 --> 02:36:36.470 - Pilots may support the renovation acquisition or construction of affordable housing units. They 02:36:36.470 --> 02:36:39.080 - require that long-term affordability be guaranteed 02:36:39.080 --> 02:36:42.020 - through an extended use agreement 02:36:43.180 --> 02:36:45.180 - which is with the IH CDA in 02:36:45.180 --> 02:36:50.560 - Pilots the property owner makes a payment at a percentage of the overall tax liability in the 02:36:50.560 --> 02:36:53.160 - proposals today the payments 02:36:53.160 --> 02:36:59.010 - Are proposed to be fixed at forty five percent of the current tax liability with an annual escalator 02:36:59.010 --> 02:37:00.160 - of three percent 02:37:00.160 --> 02:37:02.700 - the pilot payments 02:37:02.700 --> 02:37:06.020 - This is by state code are then directed to the city 02:37:06.220 --> 02:37:13.340 - Which means that 100% of the related tax revenue is diverted from other local government units 02:37:13.340 --> 02:37:20.100 - So the pilot payment comes to the city. It does not get redistributed to the government units 02:37:20.100 --> 02:37:23.580 - It gets deposited here into an affordable housing fund 02:37:23.580 --> 02:37:29.300 - Just wanted to underscore that so pilots are a trade-off of community goods 02:37:29.300 --> 02:37:34.020 - They decrease revenue in exchange for the retention or creation of affordable housing units 02:37:34.580 --> 02:37:41.100 - The gene Glick gene be Glick company is an Indian Indianapolis-based housing developer and manager 02:37:41.100 --> 02:37:46.060 - The company owns and is the long-term operator of the sites and the proposals today 02:37:46.060 --> 02:37:50.880 - They own twenty one thousand units in thirteen states seventy two hundred of which are managed by 02:37:50.880 --> 02:37:52.660 - the nonprofit Glick Foundation 02:37:52.660 --> 02:38:01.580 - The city has had a favorable experience with Glick properties in Bloomington and they 02:38:02.460 --> 02:38:04.460 - and they 02:38:04.460 --> 02:38:10.860 - Have a specific model where they have on-site coordinators at their developments 02:38:10.860 --> 02:38:14.140 - Which is perhaps why they're successful and well managed 02:38:14.140 --> 02:38:20.490 - The Glick company has requested two pilot agreements to support the renovation and long-term affordability 02:38:20.490 --> 02:38:22.460 - and management of 02:38:22.460 --> 02:38:25.220 - both Cambridge Square and Henderson Court 02:38:29.740 --> 02:38:34.720 - Pilots exist as a relatively low barrier incentive because it is difficult to close the financial 02:38:34.720 --> 02:38:36.780 - gap for affordable housing developments 02:38:36.780 --> 02:38:42.720 - Rent rates are restricted which is the whole point of having these affordable housing restrictions 02:38:42.720 --> 02:38:46.340 - So the rent cannot be increased to fund improvements or updates 02:38:46.340 --> 02:38:53.380 - Janine and Danny can speak to the cash flow impacts year-over-year, but that's an important benefit 02:38:53.380 --> 02:38:55.680 - for their management of the property 02:38:56.060 --> 02:39:01.780 - And then I just wanted to mention the but for test in order to issue a pilot 02:39:01.780 --> 02:39:06.060 - We need to know that the project cannot be completed 02:39:06.060 --> 02:39:11.610 - Without it, but for the issuance of the pilot the capital stack wouldn't come together. The project 02:39:11.610 --> 02:39:12.980 - wouldn't move forward 02:39:12.980 --> 02:39:17.980 - So I'm going to 02:39:17.980 --> 02:39:22.600 - Continue in the order Cambridge Square and then Henderson Court, but I acknowledge that I would 02:39:22.600 --> 02:39:25.280 - like for you to skip the Cambridge Square stuff for now 02:39:25.380 --> 02:39:27.380 - Thank you. All right 02:39:27.380 --> 02:39:28.860 - Henderson Court 02:39:28.860 --> 02:39:32.940 - Henderson Court is located at 24 75 South Winslow Court 02:39:32.940 --> 02:39:37.700 - It was acquired by the Glick Foundation in late 2024. It features 02:39:37.700 --> 02:39:45.380 - 151 1 2 and 3 bedroom units at 60% of the AMI the requested payment is 02:39:45.380 --> 02:39:50.700 - eighty thousand four hundred dollars or 45 percent of the tax liability 02:39:51.100 --> 02:39:58.820 - That's the 24 25 24 pay 25 tax liability, and then there's the escalator of 3% annually 02:39:58.820 --> 02:40:02.780 - This makes the annual subsidy 02:40:02.780 --> 02:40:08.040 - 98,206 dollars in the annual per unit subsidy is 02:40:08.040 --> 02:40:14.940 - 935 dollars the term of the pilot of the proposed pilot is 17 years and the term of 02:40:14.940 --> 02:40:17.820 - Affordability for the site is no less than 45 years 02:40:18.980 --> 02:40:24.460 - So the term of the pilot runs with the financing for the renovations and the term of affordability 02:40:24.460 --> 02:40:26.280 - runs with state and federal 02:40:26.280 --> 02:40:28.740 - affordable housing incentives 02:40:28.740 --> 02:40:31.380 - So we're insured that 02:40:31.380 --> 02:40:41.820 - I included these AMI tables because we talk about AMI all the time 02:40:41.820 --> 02:40:45.380 - I thought it would be helpful for the public record and I thought it would be helpful 02:40:46.380 --> 02:40:50.540 - Just for this discussion as a reference. So the highlighted fields are the dates 02:40:50.540 --> 02:40:57.200 - For the effectiveness, but you can see the 60% AMI line which starts with forty five thousand five 02:40:57.200 --> 02:40:58.240 - hundred and forty dollars 02:40:58.240 --> 02:41:01.460 - and it increases depending on the number of 02:41:01.460 --> 02:41:08.220 - Individuals living in that household. So this is the salary table. That's what that household is 02:41:08.220 --> 02:41:11.100 - earning at 60% of the AMI 02:41:11.100 --> 02:41:16.100 - And then 02:41:16.180 --> 02:41:21.240 - I just wanted to say that given the impacts of SB 1 on all of our units of government and given 02:41:21.240 --> 02:41:22.660 - that the pilot would divert 02:41:22.660 --> 02:41:25.120 - all of this tax revenue to the city's 02:41:25.120 --> 02:41:27.980 - affordable housing fund 02:41:27.980 --> 02:41:31.820 - Staff communicated the impact analysis with leadership in each unit 02:41:31.820 --> 02:41:34.020 - so 02:41:34.020 --> 02:41:36.020 - the responses were 02:41:36.020 --> 02:41:38.780 - Pretty similar. I mean everyone was 02:41:38.780 --> 02:41:43.660 - Really happy to be informed about the consideration of this pilot 02:41:44.420 --> 02:41:49.160 - There was general support. Everyone acknowledged that there was a trade-off. I would say with MCC 02:41:49.160 --> 02:41:51.180 - SC in particular they 02:41:51.180 --> 02:41:57.120 - They would like they want to do more analysis. So we're I feel really 02:41:57.120 --> 02:42:01.780 - Pleased each conversation was really positive. And so we will communicate 02:42:01.780 --> 02:42:04.460 - about tax abatements 02:42:04.460 --> 02:42:09.240 - Tiff and how that works and pilots and just kind of start doing an exchange where we're 02:42:10.220 --> 02:42:15.460 - Sharing information and so I committed to each of these government units that we would share 02:42:15.460 --> 02:42:17.500 - proposals well in advance of 02:42:17.500 --> 02:42:23.410 - Coming to council. I think with the aim of doing that before it goes to EDC next time and feel good 02:42:23.410 --> 02:42:24.080 - about that 02:42:24.080 --> 02:42:26.620 - So I will 02:42:26.620 --> 02:42:28.700 - Back up to the Henderson court 02:42:28.700 --> 02:42:32.680 - Proposal slide and I would be happy to take questions about this 02:42:34.580 --> 02:42:40.160 - Thank you. Do we have questions specifically about the Henderson court proposal councilmember daily 02:42:40.160 --> 02:42:40.400 - or 02:42:40.400 --> 02:42:46.780 - Pilots in general. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much for that information. That was helpful 02:42:46.780 --> 02:42:51.750 - I'm I'm gonna kind of form my question as I'm asking it because you kind of answered it a little 02:42:51.750 --> 02:42:51.860 - bit 02:42:51.860 --> 02:42:55.600 - my question was about my concern for like MCCSE losing revenue because they're 02:42:55.600 --> 02:43:00.420 - Already going to be losing as we all know a ton of revenue 02:43:00.420 --> 02:43:04.260 - So I'm glad you had that conversation with them that that and that it went well 02:43:04.780 --> 02:43:07.320 - Do we have any sort of? 02:43:07.320 --> 02:43:12.660 - Plan or thought process for maybe how we're going to maybe help make up some of that revenue 02:43:12.660 --> 02:43:18.620 - To for example MCCSE or no, it's just we're figuring 02:43:18.620 --> 02:43:23.740 - No, go you're good. Yeah, I was kind of petering off 02:43:23.740 --> 02:43:30.460 - What happens with that funding so it is supposed to be deposited in an affordable housing fund and 02:43:30.460 --> 02:43:32.020 - then that can be used 02:43:32.660 --> 02:43:34.660 - to create 02:43:34.660 --> 02:43:42.820 - To produce units or to renovate units at 80% of the AMI or below so this 02:43:42.820 --> 02:43:45.580 - These pilot payments have a really narrow 02:43:45.580 --> 02:43:47.980 - purpose 02:43:47.980 --> 02:43:52.140 - Yes, I mean outside of the pilot money then and then I would say 02:43:52.140 --> 02:43:54.980 - outside of the pilot 02:43:54.980 --> 02:43:57.060 - everything that we are working on is 02:43:57.940 --> 02:44:04.580 - In concert with what MCCSE needs so we're not writing checks to MCS MCCSE 02:44:04.580 --> 02:44:08.940 - But we are doing everything that we can to create housing units to welcome 02:44:08.940 --> 02:44:11.420 - You know working families 02:44:11.420 --> 02:44:16.940 - Back into Bloomington City core, which is really one of the challenges 02:44:16.940 --> 02:44:20.460 - so one of the challenges for MCCSE of many is the 02:44:20.460 --> 02:44:23.260 - You know competition with charter schools 02:44:23.260 --> 02:44:29.200 - I would name that as a challenge and then our overall population decline and our aging population 02:44:29.200 --> 02:44:35.780 - And so all of our work is to really try to balance that and bring people back into our core 02:44:35.780 --> 02:44:38.600 - I don't know if that's satisfactory, but outside of 02:44:38.600 --> 02:44:45.540 - Everything that that we're doing we don't have a specific way to drive revenue back to them. It's a 02:44:45.540 --> 02:44:45.860 - start 02:44:45.860 --> 02:44:51.020 - I appreciate that. I know it's a it's it's quite a conundrum. So thank you for answering that 02:44:51.940 --> 02:44:54.160 - Thank you other councilmember questions 02:44:54.160 --> 02:44:57.900 - Councilmember Piedmont Smith 02:44:57.900 --> 02:45:01.900 - So for Henderson Court, I'm looking at the 02:45:01.900 --> 02:45:08.480 - Tax liability table at the end of your packet. Okay 02:45:08.480 --> 02:45:13.140 - It looks I just want to make sure I understand this so 02:45:13.140 --> 02:45:18.780 - At the line the last year 2043 02:45:20.260 --> 02:45:22.380 - The cumulative tax savings 02:45:22.380 --> 02:45:28.500 - For Henderson Court is one million two hundred eighty six thousand six sixty nine 02:45:28.500 --> 02:45:36.520 - So is that the total amount that the city of Bloomington and the other taxing units is giving up 02:45:36.520 --> 02:45:39.540 - Through this pilot agreement 02:45:39.540 --> 02:45:41.900 - I'm just pulling that 02:45:41.900 --> 02:45:48.240 - And Jessica you have it in front of you and answer that's fine, too 02:45:48.840 --> 02:45:52.680 - All right, if you don't mind giving me just a second 02:45:52.680 --> 02:46:02.880 - And we're looking at Henderson Court and you're looking at 02:46:02.880 --> 02:46:16.320 - So you're looking at the one million two eighty six six sixty nine figure 02:46:17.760 --> 02:46:22.020 - Yes, it's in the right column yes, so that is 02:46:22.020 --> 02:46:26.760 - The value of the life of the subsidy. Yeah 02:46:26.760 --> 02:46:32.600 - So that's what the public entities including the city is 02:46:32.600 --> 02:46:35.720 - giving up yes, and 02:46:35.720 --> 02:46:40.560 - And then in the column preceding that the cumulative pilot is what they are paying 02:46:40.560 --> 02:46:47.060 - Okay, and then in the same table 02:46:47.620 --> 02:46:48.860 - um 02:46:48.860 --> 02:46:52.080 - There's a column entitled full taxes 02:46:52.080 --> 02:46:54.900 - no pilot and 02:46:54.900 --> 02:47:03.220 - The tax amount 178 606. I'm looking at again the 24 paid 25 tax liability 02:47:03.220 --> 02:47:08.540 - It sells full taxes for all of those 17 years is 02:47:08.540 --> 02:47:11.260 - 178 thousand six oh six 02:47:11.260 --> 02:47:16.940 - How can that be wouldn't the assessment increase and the taxes therefore increase? 02:47:17.260 --> 02:47:19.260 - The assessment will increase 02:47:19.260 --> 02:47:22.100 - Obviously, we don't 02:47:22.100 --> 02:47:27.720 - Excuse me. I guess we're all having local problems tonight. Um, so the assessment will increase we 02:47:27.720 --> 02:47:28.420 - don't know 02:47:28.420 --> 02:47:31.740 - You know by what percentage during what years? 02:47:31.740 --> 02:47:34.380 - but the pilot payment 02:47:34.380 --> 02:47:42.220 - We we prescribe it to increase 3% annually. So we don't recalculate it based on the AV you'd in 02:47:42.220 --> 02:47:44.980 - pilot terms you set 02:47:45.820 --> 02:47:52.830 - You set the rate in advance and so that's why the pilot payment column reflects that 3% increase 02:47:52.830 --> 02:47:53.560 - annually 02:47:53.560 --> 02:47:57.300 - Okay, so you use the 02:47:57.300 --> 02:47:59.140 - the current 02:47:59.140 --> 02:48:05.390 - Tax rate and you just as our base. Yeah, and you just add 3% in the next column. So it's it's 02:48:05.390 --> 02:48:05.900 - theoretical 02:48:05.900 --> 02:48:09.720 - Theoretically that 3% annually is keeping up with market growth 02:48:09.720 --> 02:48:14.580 - Yeah, and then we leave that 02:48:15.580 --> 02:48:22.100 - Full taxes column as is because we're demonstrating that we're not estimating that 02:48:22.100 --> 02:48:27.480 - Okay, I have another question but I can wait 02:48:27.480 --> 02:48:33.060 - Yeah, I want to follow up on that a little bit because I'm a little bit confused by what you just 02:48:33.060 --> 02:48:33.620 - said so 02:48:33.620 --> 02:48:39.420 - If the cumulative tax savings on this is the one point two 02:48:39.420 --> 02:48:41.300 - million 02:48:41.300 --> 02:48:43.300 - but that's based on 02:48:43.940 --> 02:48:47.940 - the full tax liability staying the same and 02:48:47.940 --> 02:48:54.060 - We know that that tax won't necessarily stay the same like 02:48:54.060 --> 02:48:57.260 - is that 02:48:57.260 --> 02:49:03.060 - Just I would like to check with the controller McClellan as she prepared the table 02:49:03.060 --> 02:49:09.760 - That's the only way that we have you could stay controller McClellan 02:49:10.060 --> 02:49:14.800 - That's the only way that we have to estimate what the annual tax savings would be 02:49:14.800 --> 02:49:21.180 - That's our that's the kind of like our most conservative estimate and then taxes will go up every 02:49:21.180 --> 02:49:21.580 - year 02:49:21.580 --> 02:49:25.540 - But we're not going to estimate that in that table. They will probably have 02:49:25.540 --> 02:49:32.120 - The developer may have a benefit if taxes go up the pilot does not increase the pilot stays the 02:49:32.120 --> 02:49:32.340 - same 02:49:32.340 --> 02:49:37.980 - But at at the least this is how much tax savings that they will see and they can use that number 02:49:38.140 --> 02:49:42.790 - When they have to go get financing further and build the rest of their project. That's the 02:49:42.790 --> 02:49:45.740 - information they need to know right now in it 02:49:45.740 --> 02:49:52.780 - There is a chance that there will be more savings to the developer in the future as taxes go up 02:49:52.780 --> 02:50:01.200 - So that's kind of like a minimum number that public entities will lose in terms of revenue loss 02:50:01.200 --> 02:50:05.380 - Yes, and 02:50:05.380 --> 02:50:11.340 - I think one thing that controller McClellan highlighted is maybe helpful for the 02:50:11.340 --> 02:50:13.940 - council to know this 02:50:13.940 --> 02:50:18.300 - benefit has two roles for the developer so they 02:50:18.300 --> 02:50:23.580 - Can count it as part of their capital stack for the development? 02:50:23.580 --> 02:50:30.220 - Or the renovation and they benefit annually from the cash flow savings 02:50:30.220 --> 02:50:36.530 - So the annual cash flow savings helps with the ongoing management of the property with the hiring 02:50:36.530 --> 02:50:37.220 - of these 02:50:37.220 --> 02:50:43.320 - Care managers, I think is the title for their on-site staff in the care managers are 02:50:43.320 --> 02:50:48.940 - You know, they're there full-time. They're deeply engaged. They're helping residents with 02:50:48.940 --> 02:50:53.860 - Life management, and I don't know if the Glick folks or if the council is interested in hearing 02:50:53.860 --> 02:50:56.100 - more about that. They can talk about that 02:50:56.100 --> 02:50:59.140 - But this is just to say 02:50:59.620 --> 02:51:01.620 - It has dual import 02:51:01.620 --> 02:51:04.300 - for the property 02:51:04.300 --> 02:51:08.480 - Okay, thank you are there other councilmember questions 02:51:08.480 --> 02:51:18.380 - Okay, I I have a another question then 02:51:18.380 --> 02:51:24.940 - Oh and I want to acknowledge I can't see councilmember Rallo right now on the screen. Does he have 02:51:24.940 --> 02:51:25.860 - his hand raised at all? 02:51:28.260 --> 02:51:30.260 - Okay, thank you. Um 02:51:30.260 --> 02:51:38.180 - So if we go with that like 1.2 million dollars just so I make sure that I'm understanding so for 02:51:38.180 --> 02:51:39.260 - this project 02:51:39.260 --> 02:51:46.430 - The developer contribution it says a six point seven million dollars. Is that right? So like in 02:51:46.430 --> 02:51:47.580 - theory they're getting that 02:51:47.580 --> 02:51:50.860 - 1.2 million dollars that like 02:51:50.860 --> 02:51:54.100 - tax revenue is being lost and they're 02:51:55.140 --> 02:51:59.760 - Committing to invest six point seven million dollars and to renovations for the property. Is that 02:51:59.760 --> 02:52:01.900 - am I reading that correctly correct? 02:52:01.900 --> 02:52:05.220 - Okay 02:52:05.220 --> 02:52:11.020 - Do you agree do you want to add anything to that response? 02:52:11.020 --> 02:52:15.700 - Okay 02:52:15.700 --> 02:52:21.720 - Please come to the microphone. So the sorry, thank you. My name is Janine Betsy and I do work for 02:52:21.720 --> 02:52:23.380 - the gene vehicle a company and 02:52:24.540 --> 02:52:26.540 - I'm very short 02:52:26.540 --> 02:52:29.460 - But also those 02:52:29.460 --> 02:52:35.820 - We take the and we took the investments from the pilot savings and we increase the scope of work 02:52:35.820 --> 02:52:39.900 - And then we will fund an annual service coordinator position that costs about 02:52:39.900 --> 02:52:44.820 - $80,000 with benefits it definitely pays the living wage 02:52:44.820 --> 02:52:50.650 - and then that person puts together a service plan with the residents and we measure the residents 02:52:50.650 --> 02:52:52.660 - impact on the 10 like we 02:52:52.940 --> 02:52:59.780 - Measure 10 levels of self-sufficiency with most important being housing secure food secure 02:52:59.780 --> 02:53:05.380 - And then we kind of work down the list of whether or not people need employment or other items 02:53:05.380 --> 02:53:11.390 - But we actively measure those and report on those annually and the service coordinators are 02:53:11.390 --> 02:53:13.660 - measured on their ability to help 02:53:13.660 --> 02:53:15.900 - residents meet their own goals 02:53:17.060 --> 02:53:24.500 - But this property is actually been purchased by the Housing Foundation. And so if the project did 02:53:24.500 --> 02:53:25.660 - not move forward 02:53:25.660 --> 02:53:30.020 - It's technically eligible to be exempt. So wouldn't pay property taxes at all 02:53:30.020 --> 02:53:38.540 - So the doing a tax credit rehab and a pilot puts it back on the tax rolls at a known 02:53:38.540 --> 02:53:44.020 - amount so that we know what sort of resources we have to 02:53:44.660 --> 02:53:49.960 - Increase our scope of work. So we added HVAC. We have all new electrical panels there 02:53:49.960 --> 02:53:53.500 - We have the service coordinator and then we also added 02:53:53.500 --> 02:53:59.240 - Washer and dryers putting them in the units, which we usually don't put them in the units. We 02:53:59.240 --> 02:54:00.020 - usually have 02:54:00.020 --> 02:54:06.920 - Residents bring them so we did we were able to add those very specific items because of the pilot 02:54:06.920 --> 02:54:11.580 - Correct add them to the full scope of work. Yeah 02:54:11.580 --> 02:54:13.580 - And then just 02:54:13.580 --> 02:54:16.340 - To really highlight 02:54:16.340 --> 02:54:18.660 - What Jeanine was describing the gene? 02:54:18.660 --> 02:54:24.460 - Beglick Foundation Housing Foundation, which is a non-profit. It's a 501 c3 02:54:24.460 --> 02:54:32.420 - They purchased the property in late 2024 and because they're a non-profit the property 02:54:32.420 --> 02:54:35.140 - Was eligible for tax exemption 02:54:35.500 --> 02:54:41.680 - So the foundation applied for that tax exempt status and they anticipate that it will be awarded 02:54:41.680 --> 02:54:42.560 - later 02:54:42.560 --> 02:54:49.860 - This year this summer and the idea for them is that they will hold this tax exempt status 02:54:49.860 --> 02:54:55.720 - during the period while renovations are happening and when they 02:54:55.720 --> 02:55:01.200 - Close, I guess on your permanent financing and activate the pilot 02:55:02.020 --> 02:55:06.380 - At that time they will pay this predetermined fee 02:55:06.380 --> 02:55:11.700 - so I think what miss Betsy is saying is that 02:55:11.700 --> 02:55:19.020 - It's a different situation in this case where if the pilot doesn't go forward 02:55:19.020 --> 02:55:22.820 - The tax exemption would likely kick in 02:55:22.820 --> 02:55:30.380 - but the pilot is essential for them to complete their capital stack and add the benefits of 02:55:31.100 --> 02:55:36.560 - The the care coordinator on site and the increased rent of improvements that they're able to make 02:55:36.560 --> 02:55:37.340 - to the units 02:55:37.340 --> 02:55:44.420 - Okay, thank you are there questions 02:55:44.420 --> 02:55:47.980 - Councilmember Piedmont Smith 02:55:47.980 --> 02:55:51.260 - so do I understand correctly that 02:55:51.260 --> 02:55:58.740 - The Henderson court project is actually eligible for a total tax exemption and they're delaying 02:55:59.020 --> 02:56:01.020 - That until after this pilot 02:56:01.020 --> 02:56:03.580 - Runs its course. So no 02:56:03.580 --> 02:56:06.380 - the tax exempt status is 02:56:06.380 --> 02:56:09.460 - available to them at this time because 02:56:09.460 --> 02:56:16.140 - The nonprofit foundation owns the property when they close on their permanent financing 02:56:16.140 --> 02:56:19.620 - I think I'm way up on the mic when they close on their permanent financing 02:56:19.620 --> 02:56:26.080 - They will have a private partner as an investor and that would push them out of their tax exempt 02:56:26.080 --> 02:56:26.700 - status 02:56:27.940 --> 02:56:31.260 - so they anticipate that they will lose that tax exemption and 02:56:31.260 --> 02:56:39.140 - That is why they are requesting the pilot it is complex. So we I'm happy to pause and have us 02:56:39.140 --> 02:56:43.980 - Talk about this in more detail 02:56:43.980 --> 02:56:48.140 - Yeah 02:56:48.140 --> 02:56:51.660 - Are there other questions right now 02:56:51.660 --> 02:56:54.940 - Okay, I'll go then so if 02:56:56.460 --> 02:57:01.840 - We vote no on this pilot then it would stay in the non 02:57:01.840 --> 02:57:09.400 - Profit or the exempt the foundation and continue to be exempt and not have 02:57:09.400 --> 02:57:14.200 - Improvements made is that because because you said the but for and we were talking about the but 02:57:14.200 --> 02:57:15.060 - for earlier 02:57:15.060 --> 02:57:20.900 - So like so like you as staff are saying unless we do this like these things won't happen 02:57:23.580 --> 02:57:28.910 - Yeah, and I think I'll just look to Jeanine while I'm making statements and tell me if this isn't 02:57:28.910 --> 02:57:29.380 - correct 02:57:29.380 --> 02:57:35.820 - but I assume that based on what they have communicated there would be a reduction in the types of 02:57:35.820 --> 02:57:37.260 - improvements that would be made the 02:57:37.260 --> 02:57:39.300 - scope of the renovation would be reduced and 02:57:39.300 --> 02:57:45.940 - The care coordinator position would be in question 02:57:45.940 --> 02:57:51.980 - And so the care coordinator position 02:57:52.140 --> 02:57:53.460 - I 02:57:53.460 --> 02:57:57.310 - Just want to highlight the city's perspective having spoken with housing and neighborhood 02:57:57.310 --> 02:57:57.900 - development 02:57:57.900 --> 02:58:00.940 - our legal department 02:58:00.940 --> 02:58:02.700 - We are 02:58:02.700 --> 02:58:07.660 - supportive of this pilot and in part because of who the partner is the Glick 02:58:07.660 --> 02:58:12.950 - Company has a great track record in our community and it is because of the ways that they manage 02:58:12.950 --> 02:58:14.140 - their properties 02:58:14.140 --> 02:58:17.100 - That they are able to successfully safely 02:58:17.700 --> 02:58:22.740 - Cleanly house people at lower income levels some of the challenges that we're seeing with the 02:58:22.740 --> 02:58:25.260 - properties that we discussed on a very 02:58:25.260 --> 02:58:31.760 - Surface level and our abatement presentation for example do not have the baked-in structure that Glick 02:58:31.760 --> 02:58:37.990 - Relys on for their properties that they have across the country. So this model is really critical 02:58:37.990 --> 02:58:39.000 - to the success 02:58:39.000 --> 02:58:41.860 - of the property 02:58:41.860 --> 02:58:45.620 - Okay, thank you are there other questions 02:58:45.620 --> 02:58:47.620 - Questions 02:58:47.620 --> 02:58:50.180 - All right seeing none 02:58:50.180 --> 02:58:53.860 - Let's go ahead and go to public comment 02:58:53.860 --> 02:58:57.100 - on ordinance 02:58:57.100 --> 02:58:58.540 - 2025 - 22 02:58:58.540 --> 02:59:04.610 - So at this time if there are members of the public who would like to comment on this ordinance and 02:59:04.610 --> 02:59:05.660 - this pilot project 02:59:05.660 --> 02:59:08.140 - specifically for the Henderson court 02:59:08.140 --> 02:59:10.180 - housing if you're in chambers 02:59:10.180 --> 02:59:15.030 - You can go ahead and make your way to the podium and if you're online you can go ahead and use the 02:59:15.030 --> 02:59:16.120 - reactions tab to 02:59:16.120 --> 02:59:18.820 - Raise your hand or send a chat message to the host. I 02:59:18.820 --> 02:59:24.020 - Don't see anybody moving in chambers right now. I'm gonna give a minute and make sure that if 02:59:24.020 --> 02:59:25.100 - people want to raise their hand 02:59:25.100 --> 02:59:27.100 - they're able to 02:59:27.100 --> 02:59:32.420 - Does anybody raise their hand on zoom no 02:59:36.380 --> 02:59:40.540 - Okay, seeing no public comment we are back to councilmember comment 02:59:40.540 --> 02:59:47.660 - Are there council members who would like to make a comment regarding ordinance 2025 - 22 02:59:47.660 --> 02:59:54.340 - Councilmember sorry 02:59:54.340 --> 03:00:00.440 - Just just a super quick one. I mean, obviously I this is the third time. I've got to hear this 03:00:00.440 --> 03:00:01.100 - presentation 03:00:01.100 --> 03:00:03.100 - So that's why I didn't ask 03:00:03.300 --> 03:00:08.340 - any questions, but I mean I just just to emphasize the fact that this is 03:00:08.340 --> 03:00:11.500 - The proposal is fantastic. It 03:00:11.500 --> 03:00:18.370 - Creates long-term affordability at that am I rate that we've talked about in so many cases is 03:00:18.370 --> 03:00:19.520 - really missing 03:00:19.520 --> 03:00:22.180 - And for a large number of units 03:00:22.180 --> 03:00:29.380 - And so a lot of them at that 60% or below area me am I in many cases below that while allowing the 03:00:29.380 --> 03:00:30.140 - developer to complete 03:00:30.140 --> 03:00:33.700 - much-needed renovations without sacrificing affordability and 03:00:33.700 --> 03:00:38.630 - So I just think that it's a really really positive the type of things that we want to see in the 03:00:38.630 --> 03:00:39.680 - way that we want to 03:00:39.680 --> 03:00:45.170 - Use this tool and so I'm in great support of it and the lines very well with so many of the other 03:00:45.170 --> 03:00:45.680 - things that we've 03:00:45.680 --> 03:00:47.680 - Brought up another context. Thank you 03:00:47.680 --> 03:00:51.840 - Thank you any other council members wish to make a comment 03:00:56.420 --> 03:01:01.870 - I'll make a comment. I appreciate a council member daily bringing up MCCSE and the other taxing 03:01:01.870 --> 03:01:03.100 - entities that will 03:01:03.100 --> 03:01:08.940 - Kind of lose in this in this deal and 03:01:08.940 --> 03:01:13.120 - The thing for me personally that kind of stopped any other 03:01:13.120 --> 03:01:19.760 - Questioning did have to do with that tax tax exempt status and it's certainly better to have 03:01:21.260 --> 03:01:27.020 - More fully renovated spaces and have some element of taxing coming in 03:01:27.020 --> 03:01:30.180 - so that there can be some 03:01:30.180 --> 03:01:34.720 - Public good coming from the taxing but also a whole lot of public good for the residents and the 03:01:34.720 --> 03:01:35.780 - folks who are actually living 03:01:35.780 --> 03:01:39.020 - There so I will plan on supporting this this evening 03:01:39.020 --> 03:01:44.260 - And unless somebody else raises their hand for a council member comment, which I don't see 03:01:44.260 --> 03:01:47.820 - Will the clerk please call the roll on ordinance 2025 - 22? 03:01:48.340 --> 03:01:56.100 - Council member Stossberg. Yes, Daley. Yes, Zulik. Yes, Rosenberger. Yes. Sorry. Yes, Flaherty 03:01:56.100 --> 03:01:58.100 - Yes, Ruff Rallo 03:01:58.100 --> 03:02:01.900 - Yes, and Piedmont Smith. Yes. Thanks 03:02:01.900 --> 03:02:05.540 - Thank you. And now we will move on 03:02:12.220 --> 03:02:18.130 - You I move that ordinance 2025 - 21 be introduced and read by the city clerk by title and synopsis 03:02:18.130 --> 03:02:18.540 - only 03:02:18.540 --> 03:02:21.380 - second 03:02:21.380 --> 03:02:25.500 - It's been moved and seconded to introduce ordinance 2025 - 21 03:02:25.500 --> 03:02:30.820 - Will the clerk please call the roll on that motion to introduce council member Daley? Yes, Zulik 03:02:30.820 --> 03:02:35.420 - Yes, Rosenberger. Yes. Sorry. Yes, Flaherty. Yes 03:02:35.420 --> 03:02:38.060 - Ruff Rallo 03:02:38.060 --> 03:02:40.180 - Yes, Piedmont Smith. Yes 03:02:40.180 --> 03:02:42.180 - I 03:02:42.180 --> 03:02:52.980 - Will abstain on this one. Oh 03:02:52.980 --> 03:02:59.660 - Sorry, so that motion passes eight zero one 03:02:59.660 --> 03:03:06.060 - Will the clerk please read I'm forgetting my job. Oh, it's my job. I oh no 03:03:06.060 --> 03:03:08.420 - No, well the clerk. Yeah, the clerk has to read first 03:03:09.420 --> 03:03:11.420 - There we are ordinance 03:03:11.420 --> 03:03:17.370 - 2025 - 21 authorizing and approving a payment in lieu of taxes pilot agreement with Cambridge 03:03:17.370 --> 03:03:18.900 - Square of Bloomington LP 03:03:18.900 --> 03:03:21.780 - synopsis is 03:03:21.780 --> 03:03:27.130 - The Indiana code provides the opportunity for municipalities and owner developers to partner in the 03:03:27.130 --> 03:03:30.580 - development of affordable housing through a payment in lieu of 03:03:30.580 --> 03:03:35.900 - Taxes pilot agreement per IC 36 - 1 - 8 - 14 point 3 03:03:36.060 --> 03:03:40.700 - This agreement ensures that the city receives some taxes from the property owner on real property 03:03:40.700 --> 03:03:46.410 - subject to a tax exemption under state law the Indiana code requires the developer to agree to the 03:03:46.410 --> 03:03:48.380 - terms of the pilot including the 03:03:48.380 --> 03:03:50.380 - Amounts and timing of the payments to the city 03:03:50.380 --> 03:03:55.500 - The common council must approve the pilot by passing an ordinance if approved 03:03:55.500 --> 03:04:01.660 - The Cambridge Square pilot will result in the rehabilitation of a 153 unit community of flats 03:04:01.660 --> 03:04:03.660 - designed for residents 62 03:04:04.220 --> 03:04:09.760 - Plus or differently abled whose incomes are 60% or below the area median income 03:04:09.760 --> 03:04:12.820 - Thank you 03:04:12.820 --> 03:04:17.560 - So now I move ordinance 2025 - 21 be adopted second 03:04:17.560 --> 03:04:22.180 - Thank you. And before we do the presentation on this one 03:04:22.180 --> 03:04:27.470 - I need to recuse myself from this discussion about Cambridge Square, which is why I stopped you 03:04:27.470 --> 03:04:27.860 - earlier from 03:04:27.860 --> 03:04:31.780 - Presenting on that one at all. I have a family member living at that complex 03:04:31.780 --> 03:04:35.140 - So in order to ensure there's no appearance of conflict of interest 03:04:35.140 --> 03:04:40.490 - I will not be participating in discussion or vote on this matter and will hand proceedings over to 03:04:40.490 --> 03:04:42.300 - vice president Piedmont Smith 03:04:42.300 --> 03:04:44.300 - Thank you 03:04:44.300 --> 03:04:48.080 - All right, miss Cooper Smith, do you have further 03:04:48.080 --> 03:04:51.260 - presentation on this particular project 03:04:51.260 --> 03:04:58.320 - Just a just a few words on this one. I think if I could if we could have the slide deck back. 03:04:58.320 --> 03:04:58.580 - Thanks 03:04:59.540 --> 03:05:06.090 - So Cambridge Square of Bloomington is located at 307 North Pete Ellis Drive nestled between I don't 03:05:06.090 --> 03:05:06.940 - know what well 03:05:06.940 --> 03:05:12.120 - Yeah, Woodbridge Post Office on 10th Street and the cat cafe in Williamsburg Court off of 3rd 03:05:12.120 --> 03:05:13.900 - Street. You're welcome 03:05:13.900 --> 03:05:19.640 - They're just kidding. The property is 45 years old and features 153 one-bedroom units 03:05:19.640 --> 03:05:24.780 - They are available to residents 62 and up or differently abled and earning 03:05:25.600 --> 03:05:30.720 - 60% or less of the AMI. Sorry, the 60% AMI applies to everyone and 03:05:30.720 --> 03:05:33.860 - Residents can be 62 and older or differently abled 03:05:33.860 --> 03:05:40.700 - Just a reminder of the income limits the AMI at 60% is 03:05:40.700 --> 03:05:47.540 - 65,000 and 40 for a four-person household or 45,000 540 for a one-person household 03:05:53.300 --> 03:05:57.440 - Yeah, you did it okay and then 03:05:57.440 --> 03:06:02.500 - The proposed agreement details are quite similar 03:06:02.500 --> 03:06:07.220 - The payments smaller because the assessed value is lower 03:06:07.220 --> 03:06:11.450 - So the Cambridge Square agreement would include an annual payment in lieu of twenty nine thousand 03:06:11.450 --> 03:06:12.840 - three hundred seventy six dollars 03:06:12.840 --> 03:06:15.260 - with a three percent annual escalation 03:06:15.260 --> 03:06:20.790 - That makes the annual subsidy thirty five thousand eight hundred and forty one dollars in the 03:06:20.790 --> 03:06:21.980 - annual per unit subsidy 03:06:22.660 --> 03:06:25.380 - 392 dollars the term of the pilot is 03:06:25.380 --> 03:06:30.660 - Seventeen years, which is the length of the financing for the project again. However, the term of 03:06:30.660 --> 03:06:32.860 - affordability is no less than 45 years 03:06:32.860 --> 03:06:36.260 - The agreement auto terminates after 17 years 03:06:36.260 --> 03:06:40.510 - It can terminate if both parties agree and it can terminate if the property through sale to a 03:06:40.510 --> 03:06:42.840 - different developer or through non-compliance 03:06:42.840 --> 03:06:50.740 - so if it sells to a developer that is does not meet the code requirements for 60% AMI and having a 03:06:51.340 --> 03:06:53.340 - long-term agreement with IH CDA 03:06:53.340 --> 03:06:55.900 - that would terminate the 03:06:55.900 --> 03:06:58.220 - Affordability or sorry that would terminate the pilot 03:06:58.220 --> 03:07:04.980 - I think those are the broad strokes and then on this pilot it is 03:07:04.980 --> 03:07:10.720 - Entirely on the private side of the organization. So there's no tax exemption 03:07:10.720 --> 03:07:14.260 - Change happening 03:07:14.260 --> 03:07:17.180 - So I think that's 03:07:17.180 --> 03:07:20.620 - Enough for the overview I guess 03:07:21.180 --> 03:07:23.180 - Happy to answer questions 03:07:23.180 --> 03:07:30.180 - Thank You director Cooper Smith, are there any questions about the Cambridge Square? Yes councilmember. 03:07:30.180 --> 03:07:32.180 - Sorry, just a super brief one 03:07:32.180 --> 03:07:39.240 - Am I right in remembering that though the tax payment last 17 years that the requirement that it 03:07:39.240 --> 03:07:41.220 - served that population is 03:07:41.220 --> 03:07:48.100 - Forever or something like that. It was so long ago that we had this conversation Jeanine can speak 03:07:48.100 --> 03:07:48.740 - to that 03:07:48.740 --> 03:07:51.500 - So there the IHC da 03:07:51.500 --> 03:07:57.220 - Agreements, could you please remind us of your name for the record? I'm sorry 03:07:57.220 --> 03:08:00.700 - my name is Jeanine Betsy and 03:08:00.700 --> 03:08:05.140 - Yeah, so the 03:08:05.140 --> 03:08:12.620 - The affordability period from IHC da is governed by a land use restricted agreement the Lura 03:08:12.620 --> 03:08:18.700 - And that is a 15 year initial period and a 30 year extended use period and you are not 03:08:18.700 --> 03:08:22.540 - Able to opt out of the extended use period anymore 03:08:22.540 --> 03:08:26.940 - Additionally the bond Lura that also is in the project 03:08:26.940 --> 03:08:33.260 - Requires that as long as you have section 8 in the property that you will continue to maintain 03:08:33.260 --> 03:08:38.380 - affordability and Cambridge Square is a hundred percent section 8, so 03:08:38.380 --> 03:08:44.500 - We would be required to keep it affordable in perpetuity 03:08:45.180 --> 03:08:48.940 - Again the section 8 requirement contract requires that as well 03:08:48.940 --> 03:08:54.380 - We really value section 8 as you can't get new contracts anymore 03:08:54.380 --> 03:09:00.780 - And that means that the residents are not paying more than 30% of their income towards rent and HUD 03:09:00.780 --> 03:09:02.040 - covers the balance 03:09:02.040 --> 03:09:05.060 - These are not part of the intended 03:09:05.060 --> 03:09:08.540 - Budget cuts at HUD 03:09:08.540 --> 03:09:12.860 - And these are long-term subsidies that likely will never come back 03:09:13.620 --> 03:09:17.900 - For any new project so it's that we find at our organization 03:09:17.900 --> 03:09:21.700 - It's imperative that we maintain them and keep them affordable 03:09:21.700 --> 03:09:24.660 - as long as possible 03:09:24.660 --> 03:09:31.340 - Because it's some of the most important things that we can do and a lot of these properties are 03:09:31.340 --> 03:09:34.020 - located in some of our best neighborhoods 03:09:34.020 --> 03:09:37.860 - Like you couldn't build Henderson Court where it is today 03:09:38.220 --> 03:09:44.400 - Nor could you build Cambridge Square where it is today and keep it affordable for residents? 03:09:44.400 --> 03:09:46.900 - but so it's a 03:09:46.900 --> 03:09:52.540 - We make a commitment to keep our properties affordable in perpetuity 03:09:52.540 --> 03:09:55.580 - But those are the documents and the timelines that guide 03:09:55.580 --> 03:10:01.100 - The three or four agreements that will sign to keep it affordable 03:10:01.100 --> 03:10:04.260 - Thank you 03:10:05.180 --> 03:10:10.860 - Thank you any other questions about the Cambridge Square pilot proposal I 03:10:10.860 --> 03:10:23.500 - Guess I will ask one and I just noticed a big difference in the per unit subsidy 03:10:23.500 --> 03:10:26.060 - between 03:10:26.060 --> 03:10:28.700 - Cambridge Square where it's one hundred ninety two dollars and 03:10:30.100 --> 03:10:35.070 - Henderson Court where it was nine hundred thirty five dollars. Is that just the extent of the 03:10:35.070 --> 03:10:37.380 - renovation? That's different or 03:10:37.380 --> 03:10:39.940 - Could be I can say - yeah 03:10:39.940 --> 03:10:47.400 - It's primarily driven by the acquisition because Henderson Court was just purchased in December 03:10:47.400 --> 03:10:53.580 - 2024 and the other project has been in the portfolio for such a long time 03:10:53.580 --> 03:10:59.100 - And frequently when properties are sold that have a hundred percent section 8 units 03:10:59.100 --> 03:11:01.100 - They're sold above 03:11:01.100 --> 03:11:04.580 - the value that can be financed 03:11:04.580 --> 03:11:10.140 - Because the section 8 contract has a long-term value. So the 03:11:10.140 --> 03:11:17.720 - Cambridge Square of Bloomington as is appraisal was significantly less than the Henderson Court 03:11:17.720 --> 03:11:23.980 - Family sized appraisal and cost to purchase those properties 03:11:23.980 --> 03:11:27.660 - So that's the really the difference 03:11:28.540 --> 03:11:32.900 - Henderson Court also needs more work than Cambridge Square of Bloomington 03:11:32.900 --> 03:11:35.660 - Glick has an extensive 03:11:35.660 --> 03:11:38.020 - ongoing maintenance 03:11:38.020 --> 03:11:44.560 - Program at all of our properties. We do asphalt every year if we don't if we're not doing a big 03:11:44.560 --> 03:11:44.980 - rehab 03:11:44.980 --> 03:11:49.980 - We're still doing a certain amount of windows and doors every year HVAC system 03:11:49.980 --> 03:11:56.460 - So frequently a property that's been in the click family portfolio for a number of years is better 03:11:56.860 --> 03:12:02.200 - Kept then a property that we purchased and so since we just purchased 03:12:02.200 --> 03:12:07.660 - Henderson it both cost more per unit and the need of the work is greater 03:12:07.660 --> 03:12:11.900 - Thank you for that 03:12:11.900 --> 03:12:21.740 - I had another question that I meant to ask with the other item and now I need to find it. Sorry 03:12:21.740 --> 03:12:26.280 - It's in the the actual text of the resolution 03:12:26.480 --> 03:12:28.480 - I 03:12:28.480 --> 03:12:38.760 - For pilot for country view or or sorry for Cambridge Square or Henderson Court 03:12:38.760 --> 03:12:41.720 - Cambridge Square, okay 03:12:41.720 --> 03:12:44.600 - I believe this language was in both of them, but 03:12:44.600 --> 03:12:50.080 - So at the bottom of the first page of the actual ordinance language 03:12:50.080 --> 03:12:53.720 - That whereas clause at the the last one on that page 03:12:56.000 --> 03:12:58.220 - It says 192 dollars per unit 03:12:58.220 --> 03:13:04.200 - blah blah blah do honor before May 10th and November 10th for each assessment year after the 03:13:04.200 --> 03:13:06.040 - closing of the project in 03:13:06.040 --> 03:13:11.540 - Accordance with section 1.4 of the agreement. What is the closing of the project? What does that 03:13:11.540 --> 03:13:12.080 - mean? 03:13:12.080 --> 03:13:16.820 - So I think that means the closing of the financing to facilitate the renovations 03:13:16.820 --> 03:13:25.600 - Okay, so so it doesn't mean the completion of the renovations it means the 03:13:26.280 --> 03:13:28.280 - closing of the financing 03:13:28.280 --> 03:13:30.720 - That's my understanding Audrey is that 03:13:30.720 --> 03:13:54.100 - And I'm gonna follow up with a naive question and that is what does closing of the financing mean 03:13:55.100 --> 03:13:57.700 - So I can tell you what that means 03:13:57.700 --> 03:14:03.600 - Closing of the financing on a 4% tax credit deal like this. My name is Janine Betsy, by the way 03:14:03.600 --> 03:14:10.420 - it means that you close the tax credits you're selling the bonds that makes up the debt and 03:14:10.420 --> 03:14:13.620 - you are 03:14:13.620 --> 03:14:15.780 - Also 03:14:15.780 --> 03:14:17.780 - That's all of the sources 03:14:18.020 --> 03:14:25.740 - So that's everything closes at once and then you enter into a fully amortizing loan at closing 03:14:25.740 --> 03:14:32.560 - So we're immediately paying on that loan just like you do on your mortgage at your house when you 03:14:32.560 --> 03:14:32.900 - close 03:14:32.900 --> 03:14:40.580 - But the closing means that you close all those sources of financing at one time. It's really fun 03:14:40.580 --> 03:14:42.900 - and 03:14:42.900 --> 03:14:48.300 - But it does not mean we will close the project. We will just close on the sources of funds 03:14:48.300 --> 03:14:53.060 - And I guess in that context then 03:14:53.060 --> 03:14:59.270 - When do we can we expect the first pilot payments since they're expected after the closing of the 03:14:59.270 --> 03:14:59.980 - project? 03:14:59.980 --> 03:15:04.860 - Sorry, Audrey Brittingham city attorney, so 03:15:04.860 --> 03:15:11.740 - We agree that that it really is closing of the financing and then it references section 1.4 in the 03:15:11.740 --> 03:15:12.260 - agreement 03:15:12.260 --> 03:15:16.660 - And so if you go down to section 1.4 it that just outlines 03:15:16.660 --> 03:15:22.660 - They both outline when the payments are due and you'll notice in 1.4 03:15:22.660 --> 03:15:30.060 - It makes it clear that the pilots essentially starts January 1st 2026 of the assessment year 03:15:30.060 --> 03:15:31.980 - payable 03:15:31.980 --> 03:15:33.980 - 2027 so we wouldn't actually see 03:15:33.980 --> 03:15:41.940 - Pilot payment until 2027 for the payable 2026 year 03:15:42.180 --> 03:15:44.100 - so 03:15:44.100 --> 03:15:45.220 - close 03:15:45.220 --> 03:15:46.540 - 2025 03:15:46.540 --> 03:15:51.820 - this increase or assessment 2026 payment 2027 03:15:51.820 --> 03:15:59.660 - Okay, and that's the first payment of 17 years, yes, okay. All right. Thank you so much for clarifying 03:15:59.660 --> 03:16:00.100 - that 03:16:00.100 --> 03:16:04.540 - You know, we're late people up here trying to understand all the lingo 03:16:04.540 --> 03:16:07.640 - Are there any other questions about the Cambridge Square? 03:16:07.640 --> 03:16:10.740 - pilot 03:16:10.940 --> 03:16:15.140 - Okay, we can go to the public. Is there any member of the public who would like to comment on 03:16:15.140 --> 03:16:19.700 - This resolution about Cambridge Square pilot 03:16:19.700 --> 03:16:24.700 - Payment in lieu of taxes. I see we have one person coming to the podium 03:16:24.700 --> 03:16:27.320 - Please state your name for the record and you'll have up to three minutes 03:16:27.320 --> 03:16:33.420 - Randy Cassidy local community individual and somewhat of a historian based on what I just heard in 03:16:33.420 --> 03:16:39.500 - 1981 I worked at Walker standard which is at Kingston and 3rd Street and 03:16:39.900 --> 03:16:43.480 - It had just been built and there was a 65 year old woman 03:16:43.480 --> 03:16:46.160 - I cannot remember her name, but I can tell you she had a 03:16:46.160 --> 03:16:50.060 - 1967 XR cougar lemonade or that she brought in and 03:16:50.060 --> 03:16:56.130 - She it was something she had got for her son after he graduated college. She lived at Cambridge 03:16:56.130 --> 03:16:56.660 - Square 03:16:56.660 --> 03:17:03.220 - She had been widowed and she said can you believe I can live here? 03:17:03.220 --> 03:17:05.820 - At what I have 03:17:06.460 --> 03:17:12.500 - And I she would come in I would take her back and I don't know about the financing 03:17:12.500 --> 03:17:17.700 - I do know that Cambridge Square was taken care of then as I drive by it now 03:17:17.700 --> 03:17:22.300 - It still looks in as good a condition as it with was when I took her home 03:17:22.300 --> 03:17:26.860 - So from a condition of what Glick has done. I didn't even know Glick owned it 03:17:26.860 --> 03:17:30.660 - and I thought I knew a lot about Bloomington and 03:17:31.980 --> 03:17:36.710 - It's just one of those things when you drive by it and you see it it's been taken care of and from 03:17:36.710 --> 03:17:37.380 - that long-term 03:17:37.380 --> 03:17:44.080 - Affordability, I still remember her saying that and when I heard that at least I should get up and 03:17:44.080 --> 03:17:45.140 - say something about that 03:17:45.140 --> 03:17:46.620 - Thank you 03:17:46.620 --> 03:17:48.340 - Thank you 03:17:48.340 --> 03:17:53.340 - Are there any hands raised on zoom for people who want to speak to this? No 03:17:53.340 --> 03:17:58.820 - No, okay. I don't see anybody else in council chambers. So we'll come back to 03:17:59.660 --> 03:18:02.020 - Council members, are there any final comments on? 03:18:02.020 --> 03:18:06.260 - resolution 20 25 - 21 03:18:06.260 --> 03:18:16.620 - Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll on resolution 20 25 - 21 03:18:16.620 --> 03:18:19.500 - Councilmember Zulek. Yes 03:18:19.500 --> 03:18:23.980 - Sorry, I'm sorry Rosenberger. Yes. I'm sorry. Yes 03:18:23.980 --> 03:18:25.860 - Flaherty 03:18:25.860 --> 03:18:27.100 - Yes 03:18:27.100 --> 03:18:28.300 - rough 03:18:28.300 --> 03:18:29.820 - Rollo 03:18:29.820 --> 03:18:31.980 - Yes, Piedmont Smith. Yes 03:18:31.980 --> 03:18:34.980 - Stasberg 03:18:34.980 --> 03:18:41.640 - And daily, yes 03:18:41.640 --> 03:18:51.420 - All right that passes with a vote of eight zero do we count the recusal as an abstention 03:18:51.420 --> 03:18:57.420 - Anybody know 03:18:58.420 --> 03:19:00.820 - It counts it doesn't count 03:19:00.820 --> 03:19:09.510 - So is it count as an abstention eight zero one then okay, there we go and I'll hand the gavel back 03:19:09.510 --> 03:19:09.780 - to 03:19:09.780 --> 03:19:15.940 - President Stasberg. Thank you moving on to our last piece of legislation for the evening. I 03:19:15.940 --> 03:19:19.260 - Move resolution 20 25 - Oh 03:19:19.260 --> 03:19:25.010 - Nine put my glasses on. Yes. Thank you be introduced and read by the city clerk by title and synopsis 03:19:25.010 --> 03:19:25.380 - only 03:19:26.100 --> 03:19:31.830 - Second so moved and seconded to introduce resolution 20 25. Oh nine. Will the clerk please call the 03:19:31.830 --> 03:19:32.060 - roll? 03:19:32.060 --> 03:19:39.260 - Councilmember Rosenberger. Yes. Sorry. Yes clarity. Yes rough. Yeah, Rallo 03:19:39.260 --> 03:19:41.940 - Yes, Piedmont Smith. Yes 03:19:41.940 --> 03:19:48.600 - Stasberg yes and daily. Yes. Oh and Zulek. Yes. Thank you 03:19:52.820 --> 03:20:00.500 - Res oh, sorry. It's late. I move ordinance 20 25 - oh nine be adopted 03:20:00.500 --> 03:20:04.680 - Thank you 03:20:04.680 --> 03:20:12.300 - Don't I need to read it first, oh, oh gosh, I'm sorry that was me boy. It is late. It's late. I am 03:20:12.300 --> 03:20:12.980 - so sorry 03:20:12.980 --> 03:20:18.420 - I'll go for it resolution 20 25 - oh nine authorizing the allocation of the Jack Hopkins Social 03:20:18.420 --> 03:20:20.780 - Services program funds for the year 03:20:21.060 --> 03:20:24.600 - 20 25 and related matters the synopsis is 03:20:24.600 --> 03:20:29.960 - This resolution brings forward the recommendations of the 20 25 Jack Hopkins Social Services 03:20:29.960 --> 03:20:30.740 - Committee 03:20:30.740 --> 03:20:35.560 - The principal task of the committee is to recommend funding for local social services agency 03:20:35.560 --> 03:20:41.540 - Proposals that best meet program criteria and best meet the needs of the community. This resolution 03:20:41.540 --> 03:20:44.260 - allocates a total of five hundred and ten thousand 03:20:45.140 --> 03:20:50.500 - Seven hundred and seventy seven dollars and 27 cents to 35 different agency programs the resolution 03:20:50.500 --> 03:20:52.860 - also approves the funding agreements with these 03:20:52.860 --> 03:20:57.140 - Agencies and authorizes the council president to execute such agreements 03:20:57.140 --> 03:21:01.520 - Accepts the report of the committee and authorizes the chair of the committee to resolve any 03:21:01.520 --> 03:21:04.580 - questions regarding the interpretation of the agreements 03:21:04.580 --> 03:21:10.960 - Thank you, I'm sorry that I'm already on summer recess right now 03:21:12.820 --> 03:21:17.020 - Yes, I move ordinance 2025 - oh 9b adopted 03:21:17.020 --> 03:21:20.280 - resolution I 03:21:20.280 --> 03:21:26.660 - Move resolution 2025 - oh 9b adopted second. There we go 03:21:26.660 --> 03:21:33.060 - Councilmember Asari, are you gonna present the resolution on the funding recommendations? 03:21:33.060 --> 03:21:41.860 - Already did if you have any questions happy to answer them 03:21:42.380 --> 03:21:47.500 - And I don't know if there wasn't the amendment for the clerical error. Is that necessary? 03:21:47.500 --> 03:21:52.100 - Yes, so just make mention of that. But yeah, any questions happy to answer them 03:21:52.100 --> 03:21:59.260 - Shall I move thank you. Yes was amendment one and the 03:21:59.260 --> 03:22:06.900 - It was omitted from the packet by accident was it in the addendum. Nope. Oh 03:22:06.900 --> 03:22:10.460 - Its absence was 03:22:11.060 --> 03:22:13.060 - Discovered about 4 p.m. Today 03:22:13.060 --> 03:22:17.220 - Yes, please amendment one be introduced and 03:22:17.220 --> 03:22:21.660 - Something just just be introduced second 03:22:21.660 --> 03:22:25.660 - All right. So this is just correcting a typo in the 03:22:25.660 --> 03:22:27.900 - resolution 03:22:27.900 --> 03:22:30.580 - the table where it lists the 03:22:30.580 --> 03:22:34.420 - recommended funding and the purpose for each 03:22:34.420 --> 03:22:37.420 - grant 03:22:37.420 --> 03:22:40.940 - the purpose for Bloomington Cooperative Living was 03:22:40.940 --> 03:22:47.740 - Was incorrect so this just replaces the current text with 03:22:47.740 --> 03:22:51.860 - this HVAC upgrades to communal living home for 03:22:51.860 --> 03:22:54.460 - Bloomington Cooperative Living 03:22:54.460 --> 03:22:58.180 - Does anybody have any questions on the amendment 03:23:02.780 --> 03:23:10.640 - Let's go to the public then I'll take public comment on this amendment one to 03:23:10.640 --> 03:23:12.580 - resolution 03:23:12.580 --> 03:23:14.680 - 2025-09 if anybody wants to 03:23:14.680 --> 03:23:17.800 - Make a comment about this 03:23:17.800 --> 03:23:21.980 - Correction of purpose if you're in chambers, please make your way to the podium 03:23:21.980 --> 03:23:27.500 - If you're online, you can go ahead and raise your hand. Is there anybody raising? There's one. Okay 03:23:27.500 --> 03:23:30.660 - I do want to make sure that that public commenter 03:23:31.500 --> 03:23:34.660 - We are specifically taking public comment on the amendment 03:23:34.660 --> 03:23:41.600 - To the resolution not the resolution itself. So when you are unmuted, you can go ahead and state 03:23:41.600 --> 03:23:42.680 - your name for the record and 03:23:42.680 --> 03:23:45.500 - Then you'll have up to three minutes 03:23:56.820 --> 03:24:02.240 - Her hands not raised right now, okay, but I was wondering if she might want to comment on the whole 03:24:02.240 --> 03:24:03.920 - resolution instead of the amendment 03:24:03.920 --> 03:24:10.860 - So for a lack of any public comment about the amendment if the clerk could oh going back to council 03:24:10.860 --> 03:24:14.740 - Do council members want to make any closing comments on the amendment? 03:24:14.740 --> 03:24:19.140 - I'll just say thank you councilmember Piedmont Smith for 03:24:19.140 --> 03:24:22.140 - cross referencing things and noticing that 03:24:22.900 --> 03:24:29.210 - Will the clerk please call the roll on amendment one to resolution 2020 509 councilmember? Sorry. 03:24:29.210 --> 03:24:29.380 - Yes 03:24:29.380 --> 03:24:33.060 - Flaherty. Yes, Ruff. Yes, Rallo 03:24:33.060 --> 03:24:35.380 - Yes 03:24:35.380 --> 03:24:42.020 - Piedmont Smith. Yes, Stasberg. Yes, Daly. Yes, Zulek. Yes and Rosenberger. Yes. Thank you 03:24:42.020 --> 03:24:46.580 - Great. So now we are back to the resolution as amended 03:24:46.580 --> 03:24:51.500 - So are there any council member questions about the funding? 03:24:52.460 --> 03:24:54.460 - recommendations from the committee 03:24:54.460 --> 03:25:01.740 - No questions, um, I have a question 03:25:01.740 --> 03:25:09.540 - Oh, maybe I don't have a question hang on I might have gotten that answer already. Oh 03:25:09.540 --> 03:25:14.300 - I actually do have a question and it's a question from the 03:25:14.300 --> 03:25:21.900 - The funding agreement between the city of Bloomington and so it's attachment a 03:25:22.180 --> 03:25:25.860 - So this might be a question for our attorney that I noticed 03:25:25.860 --> 03:25:32.180 - this afternoon one of the things that we are asking the agencies to provide and 03:25:32.180 --> 03:25:37.620 - See if I can figure out section for part D the reporting requirement 03:25:37.620 --> 03:25:43.220 - Requires that the report be submitted in word format and I'm wondering if there's a reason why we 03:25:43.220 --> 03:25:44.680 - require it to be in a word 03:25:44.680 --> 03:25:51.320 - I'm not aware and aware of a reason in the past that has been the case 03:25:51.600 --> 03:25:57.320 - This is essentially the same funding agreement that has been used last year 03:25:57.320 --> 03:26:01.280 - And I believe largely in prior years 03:26:01.280 --> 03:26:09.160 - Okay, is there like could we change that and would we have to? 03:26:09.160 --> 03:26:18.760 - Do any kind of official I mean does does the resolution reference the way that this is worded yes 03:26:18.760 --> 03:26:21.040 - Yes part of the resolution 03:26:22.040 --> 03:26:27.400 - Adopting this funding agreement. So to change the funding agreement we would 03:26:27.400 --> 03:26:30.840 - Okay, I 03:26:30.840 --> 03:26:35.180 - Guess I don't really feel like doing an amendment on the fly if agencies haven't complained about 03:26:35.180 --> 03:26:36.000 - this in the past 03:26:36.000 --> 03:26:38.480 - but if in the future, maybe we could amend that so that 03:26:38.480 --> 03:26:43.770 - We don't require that in word anymore just because a lot of people don't necessarily use word now 03:26:43.770 --> 03:26:45.480 - because of Google Docs, etc 03:26:45.480 --> 03:26:46.400 - etc 03:26:46.400 --> 03:26:49.800 - Which is an issue we've come across in something else lately recently. So 03:26:50.560 --> 03:26:52.720 - If we could just keep that in mind in the future, that would be great 03:26:52.720 --> 03:26:56.120 - Will do thank you. Thank you 03:26:56.120 --> 03:27:06.800 - I don't think I have any other questions. So let's go ahead and move to 03:27:06.800 --> 03:27:09.480 - public comment on 03:27:09.480 --> 03:27:15.530 - Resolution 2025 - oh nine as amended if you are a member of the public who would wish to comment on 03:27:15.530 --> 03:27:15.820 - this 03:27:15.820 --> 03:27:18.400 - If you're in chambers, please make your way to the podium 03:27:18.400 --> 03:27:23.110 - If you're online, you can go ahead and raise your hand using the reactions tab or send a chat 03:27:23.110 --> 03:27:24.160 - message to the host 03:27:24.160 --> 03:27:26.480 - I do believe we have somebody online now 03:27:26.480 --> 03:27:30.100 - So if when you're unmuted if you could state your name for the record, and then you'll have up to 03:27:30.100 --> 03:27:30.760 - three minutes 03:27:30.760 --> 03:27:32.760 - I 03:27:32.760 --> 03:27:56.080 - I'm not sure if that was a glitch of your audio 03:27:56.320 --> 03:28:01.880 - Or if that was deliberate if you could maybe send a chat message to the host to let us know 03:28:01.880 --> 03:28:07.740 - What might be going on with that and we'll just give it a minute here for you to take a minute 03:28:25.920 --> 03:28:31.700 - Does it appear that we should try again to see if that audio can be corrected we'll try it again, 03:28:31.700 --> 03:28:32.120 - okay 03:28:32.120 --> 03:28:46.760 - We've had other other audio work, okay 03:28:46.760 --> 03:28:52.760 - Is there any chance that this person could type their public comment into the chat? 03:29:22.760 --> 03:29:30.560 - Do we have any information from the staff table? 03:29:30.560 --> 03:29:36.600 - No, no chat message at this time. 03:29:36.600 --> 03:29:37.600 - Okay. 03:29:37.600 --> 03:29:41.440 - Yeah, any public, any comments, of course, can be sent by email. 03:29:41.440 --> 03:29:47.840 - I'm really sorry that that audio seemed to be malfunctioning. 03:29:47.840 --> 03:29:52.920 - We've had other Zoom comments today. 03:29:52.920 --> 03:30:02.840 - So I'm not sure what there is on our end that we could do with that. 03:30:02.840 --> 03:30:06.880 - Has anybody else raised a hand? 03:30:06.880 --> 03:30:11.720 - No, no hands are raised. 03:30:11.720 --> 03:30:12.720 - Thank you. 03:30:12.720 --> 03:30:18.760 - Seeing any public comment in chambers, we will bring it back to council for any last 03:30:18.760 --> 03:30:22.480 - questions or closing comment. 03:30:22.480 --> 03:30:27.960 - Any comments from council? 03:30:27.960 --> 03:30:30.460 - Councilmember Piedmont-Smith. 03:30:30.460 --> 03:30:35.740 - Just to thank all of the good agencies that are helping people who are in need of assistance 03:30:35.740 --> 03:30:42.080 - in our community, and thank you to my colleagues and the three members of the public who served 03:30:42.080 --> 03:30:46.120 - on the committee. 03:30:46.120 --> 03:30:47.120 - Thank you. 03:30:47.120 --> 03:30:50.600 - Any other comments? 03:30:50.600 --> 03:30:53.880 - I would also just like to thank everybody who served on the committee, including our 03:30:53.880 --> 03:30:56.080 - community members. 03:30:56.080 --> 03:30:59.160 - We had three community members on that committee. 03:30:59.160 --> 03:31:06.600 - With that, if the clerk could please call the roll on resolution 202509. 03:31:06.600 --> 03:31:07.600 - As amended. 03:31:07.600 --> 03:31:08.600 - Councilmember Flaherty? 03:31:08.600 --> 03:31:09.600 - Yes. 03:31:09.600 --> 03:31:10.600 - Ruff? 03:31:10.600 --> 03:31:11.600 - Yes. 03:31:11.600 --> 03:31:12.600 - Rallo? 03:31:12.600 --> 03:31:13.600 - Yes. 03:31:13.600 --> 03:31:14.600 - Piedmont-Smith? 03:31:14.600 --> 03:31:15.600 - Yes. 03:31:15.600 --> 03:31:16.600 - Stasberg? 03:31:16.600 --> 03:31:17.600 - Yes. 03:31:17.600 --> 03:31:18.600 - Daly? 03:31:18.600 --> 03:31:19.600 - Yes. 03:31:19.600 --> 03:31:20.600 - Zulek? 03:31:20.600 --> 03:31:21.600 - Yes. 03:31:21.600 --> 03:31:22.600 - Rosenberger? 03:31:22.600 --> 03:31:23.600 - Yes. 03:31:23.600 --> 03:31:24.600 - Asari? 03:31:24.600 --> 03:31:25.600 - Yes. 03:31:25.600 --> 03:31:26.600 - Thanks. 03:31:26.600 --> 03:31:27.600 - Thank you. 03:31:27.600 --> 03:31:28.600 - And that completes our legislation for the first part of this year, as a matter of fact. 03:31:28.600 --> 03:31:35.000 - And now we've moved on to the second period of public comment for items not on the agenda. 03:31:35.000 --> 03:31:39.280 - If you are a member of the public and you would like to comment on something not on 03:31:39.280 --> 03:31:42.560 - the agenda, if you're in chambers, you can make your way to the podium. 03:31:42.560 --> 03:31:47.280 - If you're online, you can go ahead and use the reactions tab to raise your hand or send 03:31:47.280 --> 03:31:48.840 - a chat message to the host. 03:31:48.840 --> 03:31:54.000 - I don't see anybody moving in chambers, but I'll give it a minute for anybody online. 03:31:54.000 --> 03:32:01.200 - Has anybody raised their hands online? 03:32:01.200 --> 03:32:03.160 - No. 03:32:03.160 --> 03:32:04.440 - Okay. 03:32:04.440 --> 03:32:07.160 - Thank you very much. 03:32:07.160 --> 03:32:12.120 - I'll move on then to our notes of council schedule. 03:32:12.120 --> 03:32:15.720 - As I mentioned, this is the final meeting before summer recess and we will convene our 03:32:15.720 --> 03:32:20.320 - next regular session on Wednesday, July 16th at 630. 03:32:20.320 --> 03:32:23.840 - And as a reminder and clarification to the community that just because there's a break 03:32:23.840 --> 03:32:29.640 - in Wednesday night meetings does not mean that we are on vacation as a council. 03:32:29.640 --> 03:32:34.200 - There are still other meetings and work still does happen. 03:32:34.200 --> 03:32:39.100 - Are there any other scheduling notes from council members? 03:32:39.100 --> 03:32:40.400 - Then we are adjourned. 03:32:40.400 --> 03:33:05.200 - Thank you. 03:33:05.200 --> 03:33:20.840 - Thank you. 03:33:20.840 --> 03:33:47.400 - Thank you.