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-  To order this regular session of the Bloomington Common Council on September 17th 2025. Will the

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-  clerk please call the roll?

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-  Pete Mott Smith here

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-  Stasberg here daily here Zulek here Rosenberger here. I'm sorry here

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-  Thank you

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-  Great. Thank you

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-  Starting off the meeting tonight just a little bit of historical information

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-  I found it notable that on this day in 1787 the US Constitution was signed

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-  And before today, I probably had not actually read the Constitution since I was you know in some US

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-  history course as a teenager

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-  and

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-  I did that today and it was very interesting and related

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-  There's been you know conversation and news stories related to whether or not we're in a

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-  constitutional crisis, and I'm not gonna

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-  speculate on that

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-  but it was really interesting to read the Constitution as an adult and as a legislature a

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-  Legislator and it just hits a little bit different than it did as a teenager

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-  So if you haven't read it in terms of the duties and responsibilities

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-  Related to the different branches of government in a while. I would recommend that you revisit that

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-  Just because it is interesting

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-  and

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-  The next going on to our agenda summation

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-  before we do that, I actually

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-  believe

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-  That we need to

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-  amend the agenda tonight

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-  So I

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-  Guess that I need to make a motion

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-  to move

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-  agenda item 7a ordinance 2025 33

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-  To the last item under legislation for second readings and resolutions

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-  Thank you the reason for that needs to be related to the staff that would need to present that

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-  ordinance

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-  So we just need to move that down the agenda due to staff schedule

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-  Yep, so ordinance 2025 33 moving down to the end of the agenda. So we have a motion in a second to

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-  do that

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-  Will the clerk please call the roll on that motion?

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-  Councilmember Flaherty, yes, rough. Yes Rallo

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-  Can we do anything about the sound from councilmember Rallo because I'm having a hard time hearing

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-  him

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-  Piedmont Smith

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-  Yes

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-  Stasberg. Yes, Daly. Yes, Zulek. Yes, Rosenberger. Yes. Sorry. Yes

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-  Heard that thank you. Great. Thank you so much

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-  So now for our agenda summation first, we will have one set of minutes for approval from February

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-  19th of this year

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-  That will be followed by reports

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-  starting by reports from council members and then the mayor and city offices where we will have a

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-  report from the Bloomington Housing

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-  Authority we will have any council committee reports, which I do not believe we have any tonight

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-  and then our first

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-  Period of reports from the public where members of the public can make a comment on items not on

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-  the agenda tonight

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-  We do not have any appointments to boards and commissions this evening

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-  We have four pieces of legislation for first reading

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-  We start with ordinance 2025 35 to amend title 9 of the Bloomington Municipal Code entitled water

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-  and then ordinance 2025 36

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-  an ordinance authorizing the acquisition construction and installation

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-  By the city of Bloomington of certain extensions and improvements to the city's water utility

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-  Then we'll have appropriation ordinance 2025 08 transferring funds from the general funds the fiber

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-  connectivity fund

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-  And then appropriation ordinance 2025 09

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-  to appropriate

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-  General fund expenditures not otherwise appropriated and then we will have legislation for second

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-  readings and resolutions. So per the

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-  Change that we just made we will start with ordinance 2025 34

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-  To establish a fund for the proceeds of the surety bond related to the fiber optics network

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-  Then we will have resolution 2025 16

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-  requesting the food and beverage tax advisory commission to make a recommendation for

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-  expenses from those revenues

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-  Then we will have resolution 2025 15 to establish expectations and procedures for councilmember liaisons

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-  to boards and commissions

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-  And then finally as our last item of legislation for this evening

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-  We will go back to ordinance 2025 33 to establish the fiber connectivity fund for digital

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-  opportunity in

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-  initiatives

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-  Then we will have an additional period of public comment if there are any other members of the

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-  public wishing to make a comment on

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-  Items not on the agenda any notes on council schedule, and then we will adjourn

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-  So if we could start with those minutes I

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-  Move that the minutes from February 9th be approved

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-  19th

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-  19th yes, February 19th. I'm typo. Sorry

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-  Thank you

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-  You have a motion and a second to approve the minutes from February 19th of this year

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-  And just as a note there was a slightly revised

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-  Version of those sent out this afternoon that was made a small grammatical adjustment. Just anybody

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-  have any questions about those minutes?

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-  Great will the clerk please call the roll on that

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-  Piedmont Smith, yes, Stossberg. Yes, Daly. Yes, Zulek. Yes

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-  Rosenberger, yes. Sorry. Yes clarity. Yes. Thank you. Great. Thank you

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-  All those were approved now. We're moving into reports from council members

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-  Let's go ahead and start

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-  to

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-  To my left with a council member Daly

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-  Yeah, thank you

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-  I just wanted to quickly put a shout out for anybody who might still be interested in applying for

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-  any boards and commissions

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-  There are still some openings

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-  We would love to have some more applications come in and also if you've applied

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-  Previously and did not get appointed to a board and Commission

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-  That not necessarily was, you know a personal thing

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-  We only have so many seats available and we have so many great applicants that we don't always have

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-  seats available for everyone

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-  So if you're still interested, please go back and reapply again because I know

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-  We would love to have some of our former interviewers

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-  Put in another application and possibly have another chance to get on a board and Commission

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-  So we hope to see you at some of our interviews. Thanks

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-  Thank you councilmember Zulek

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-  No report. Thank you. Thank you councilmember Rosenberger

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-  No report. Thank you councilmember. Sorry no report. Okay councilmember Piedmont Smith

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-  Yes, I do have a report and my request that staff put I have a little PowerPoint to go through

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-  This is about

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-  Requesting that the council

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-  Sign on to a letter to oppose

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-  The Environmental Protection Agency's reconsideration of the 2009 endangerment finding

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-  So I did reach out to some of you individually about this

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-  So if we go to the next slide what what is the endangerment finding

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-  so in

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-  2009

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-  the Environmental Protection Agency made a formal determination that the concentration of

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-  six major greenhouse gases in the atmosphere such as carbon dioxide and methane endangers public

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-  health and welfare and

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-  That finding serves as a legal basis for the EPA to regulate greenhouse gas emissions under the

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-  Clean Air Act

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-  Next slide, please

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-  So if the EPA repeals that finding

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-  That would have major impacts across the country including in Bloomington

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-  It would effectively remove the legal basis for many current regulations on climate pollution

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-  It would also pave the way for the rollback of federal standards for vehicle and industrial

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-  emissions

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-  Leading to increased emissions of those pollutants next slide

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-  so it is relevant to all communities including bloom Bloomington because ultimately a

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-  Reversal of this finding would increase air pollution threatening the health of our population

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-  it would increase the pace of climate change impacts such as severe storms flooding and heat and

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-  eventually

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-  Of course, it would increase the societal disruption due to climate change which will have impacts

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-  ranging from food distribution

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-  climate refugees

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-  Local financial burdens that we are unprepared to face

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-  So there's a letter that has been drafted by the public rights project

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-  that is going to be submitted as part of the

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-  comment period to the EPA as they

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-  Consider whether to

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-  repeal the endangerment finding and the letter says

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-  And these are direct quotes from the letter. These are actual subject headings if we could go to

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-  the next slide

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-  The endangerment finding is grounded in evidence and sound science including federal climate

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-  assessments and the letter has footnotes to actually

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-  point to those studies

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-  Local governments rely on the EPA regulation of greenhouse gases and the proposed rule

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-  Which is the repeal of the finding?

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-  The proposed rule fails to consider the significant harms to local communities

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-  So some examples extreme heat is now commonplace

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-  Transportation emissions and air pollution are worsening across the US

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-  flooding and major weather events are bringing grave consequences

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-  Local communities are bearing unprecedented infrastructure costs and

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-  The EPA's proposed rule will have disproportionate impacts on

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-  Low-income people and my communities of color

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-  So

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-  Next slide. What is the public rights project? Why are they why am I coming forward with this

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-  letter from them?

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-  Well, it's an organization. It's nonpartisan nonprofit

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-  National organization that provides litigation support legal representation and training to help

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-  local government officials protect their communities

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-  And this is their word use their tremendous power for good

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-  So I like that wording

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-  So what I'm asking this evening last slide, please is a vote on the letter which I have forwarded

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-  To council members and it will be part of the official public record

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-  Once we take a vote

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-  So a vote from you all to sign on to the letter the deadline is September 22nd

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-  So I'm sorry. There wasn't a lot of advance notice on this, but

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-  The deadline is before our next meeting. So

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-  That is my report and I would appreciate if somebody could make a motion to support the letter

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-  Motion so are so moved or do I need to give a full motion?

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-  Motion

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-  Okay motion that the council adopt the letter as written

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-  Second all right, we have a motion and the second to

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-  Sign on to the letter as it's written

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-  Are there any comments from council members?

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-  Councilmember Flaherty just a brief. Thank you to come over here not Smith for bringing this

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-  the endangerment finding and EPA's obligation to regulate

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-  greenhouse gas emissions as a pollutant that is causing harm in our communities including Bloomington

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-  is really important. So I appreciate

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-  This opportunity for Bloomington to weigh in along with other communities. Thank you

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-  Thank you. Are there other comments?

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-  Okay, I'll also echo some thanks and also point out that through our economic and sustainable

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-  Development department we have various grants and things like that different programs for Bloomington

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-  residents

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-  especially with regard to extreme heat and there's been various studies about like

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-  tree canopy and that kind of thing so it

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-  climate change does have this very like

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-  monetary local impact in terms of what we need to do in order to support our residents in

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-  In these in these times and in this climate change, so I also appreciate

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-  her bringing this forward

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-  So with that if the clerk could please call the roll on the support of that letter

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-  Councilmember Rallo

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-  Yes

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-  Piedmont Smith. Yes Stossberg. Yes Daly

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-  Yes, Zulek. Yes Rosenberger. Yes, but sorry

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-  Yes, clarity. Yes

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-  rough

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-  Great, thank you. Thank you

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-  And we're still doing reports from council members so councilmember Ruff

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-  Thank you councilmember Flaherty no report thanks and moving online councilmember Rallo

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-  Yes, briefly just my mic working

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-  Yes

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-  Okay. Thank you

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-  Briefly, I just wanted to address

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-  that political violence

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-  Has no place in our society

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-  I want to condemn what occurred last Wednesday with the assassination of Charlie Kirk

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-  We should hold ourselves

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-  To a standard of civil debate

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-  Debate of ideas debate of policy propositions, but we must condemn

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-  political violence

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-  Cannot be the means by which we settle political differences

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-  and

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-  To add to that neither should government

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-  Use political violence as an excuse to limit our free speech and expression

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-  Thank you, I also have a report I need to get back to it I

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-  Had a couple things that I wanted to mention

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-  One was at the Planned Commission meeting on September 8th. So it was last week. This is the first

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-  regular session since then

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-  The Planned Commission did forward language related to single-room occupancy

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-  Which was a resolution that council sent to them

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-  So what they did was they decided to change the residential rooming house used to single-room occupancy

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-  And then they have updated related definitions and standards

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-  so the Planned Commission voted 7-1 to forward this with a positive recommendation and

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-  So we will take it up at council

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-  I'm trying to think of the calendar off the top of my head probably after budget stuff in

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-  Late October early November

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-  Second a little update on the MPO the Metropolitan Planning Commission

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-  Last Friday, we voted on several changes to the transportation improvement plan or TIP and two of

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-  them that I wanted to point out

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-  Which I think that I've mentioned before but I can't remember for sure and I think it's worth

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-  repeating because I'm excited about it

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-  is construction of a sidewalk along the bypass between North Walnut and Kinzer and then also

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-  reconstruction of the pedestrian bridge that

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-  Goes over the bypass there by Arlington that pedestrian bridge apparently has inadequate clearance

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-  and so they are going to replace it

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-  and

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-  Both of those projects have the majority of that funding in 2029. So those are just two things that

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-  hopefully will

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-  improve some of the pedestrian infrastructure in that kind of northwest quadrant of

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-  Bloomington

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-  Third I want to point out that I scheduled a constituent meeting for this Sunday September 21st on

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-  zoom

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-  It is at 1 30 on zoom. Usually my constituent meetings are Saturday mornings in person

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-  But as I mentioned a few weeks ago cross-country season really changes my Saturday mornings in the

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-  fall

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-  So I will have that constituent meeting this coming Sunday on zoom and you can find that link on

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-  the calendar

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-  And lastly, I appreciate that councilmember Rallo pointed out that political violence has no place

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-  in society

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-  but I also want to point out that there was a school shooting last Wednesday as well and

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-  School shootings also have no place in society and it is

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-  Absurd to me that there is has been greater reaction over one person

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-  Than over hundreds of schoolchildren who have been shot over the last 25 years

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-  So, thank you

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-  Moving on to reports from the mayor and city offices with a report from the Bloomington Housing

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-  Authority

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-  You can come up and

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-  Introduce yourself for the record and go ahead

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-  Good

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-  Good evening. My name is Nathan Ferreira. I am the new ish executive director for the Bloomington

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-  Housing Authority

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-  Tonight I wanted to give you kind of a broad overview of what we're doing. There are some budget

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-  numbers like in years past, but

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-  I don't know if we're behind this year or or what but I don't have a full budget to

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-  Present her to share with you tonight

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-  So I'm gonna jump right in there. Feel free to stop me if you have questions or I can answer

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-  questions at the end

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-  As it says on our seal there we strengthen opportunity beginning but not ending with housing

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-  Essentially like other housing authorities were responsible for administering public funds using

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-  whatever resources we can

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-  To allow us to provide affordable housing in in the in the community

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-  And to foster self-sufficiency through creative partnerships

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-  Some

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-  Stats that might be interesting. So you've probably heard about the rad the rental

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-  assistance demonstration

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-  So in April we closed on our second second rad, which basically means we technically don't have

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-  public housing in Bloomington anymore

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-  We have switched through what is low-income housing tax credit deal. That's just available for

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-  housing authorities

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-  all of our units so that's Walnut Woods

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-  Reverend Butler and Crestmont are now part of these investor

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-  supported

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-  Housing authority properties so that changes a little bit about how we operate it means we're

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-  accountable to more than

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-  You all we have investors that we have to answer to on a very regular basis. I'm discovering

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-  so

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-  Housing authorities we are we were established federally

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-  We're chartered through the state of Indiana

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-  And we're accountable locally. So that's that's kind of how we operate

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-  locally what that means is our seven commissioners are appointed by the mayor and they

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-  Provide kind of broad guidance of how our organization operates not so much day-to-day not

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-  personnel decisions

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-  not even residential decisions, but

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-  more policy and

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-  Financing and

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-  So they guide us in that way

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-  90% of our funding is federal

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-  The rest of our funding comes from tenant rents and from various grants

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-  so we are

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-  This year has been a roller coaster in terms of watching what's going to happen with the federal

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-  budget

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-  as you all probably

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-  Also realize it's looking like it'll probably be a continuing resolution at this point, which is

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-  probably our best-case scenario

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-  so our numbers that we're creating are based on kind of

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-  Maintaining the levels that we're at

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-  Section 8 we serve just over 1700 households

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-  There's several different kinds of vouchers mixed in there, which I'll touch on in a moment. That's

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-  about 3,400 individuals

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-  We have long long wait lists. So this is by no means

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-  meeting the need

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-  and

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-  Residents pay no more than 30% of their income toward housing

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-  the dependent on the project

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-  You it's your AMI and what you can qualify for depends on the project our rads

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-  Are all less than 50% area median income is is how they qualify for our units

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-  This is I would say all of our programs housing choice vouchers I'll get into a little more

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-  We are growing our resident services. We have found that it's really critical to add supportive

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-  services in-house

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-  We don't we're not really interested in becoming a social services agency, and I really don't think

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-  that's our role

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-  but our we can add some things to

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-  Tighten up the back end where sometimes families get evicted that if they had had some services

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-  intervene

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-  They probably wouldn't have been evicted. So those are family self-sufficiency, which is a savings

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-  program, which is designed

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-  To get people off of public assistance set some goals and actually move toward

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-  Leaving public assistance altogether. That's about 80 80 participants

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-  Normally, we actually have a position that we're trying to hire for at the moment in that program

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-  We have the Ross program, which is resident opportunities and self-sufficiency. This is our

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-  Partnering with any number of other organizations in the community to bring in services for our

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-  residents

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-  It's community events. It's we have a grocery shuttle because we're in a bit of a food desert

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-  Which has been super successful

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-  That's through the health department a grant through the health department

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-  landlord risk mitigation, which is

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-  an incentive program for landlords to work with us

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-  It's been a bit on pause, but it sounds like that funding is coming back. We've actually

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-  noticed a decrease in our utilization of vouchers and

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-  Meaning the number of people that have vouchers we usually hover around 70%

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-  We're down to about 68% this year and it seems pretty clear that it's tied to our landlord risk

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-  mitigation program

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-  Having their funding paused so that should be coming back in and then we can continue to increase

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-  that utilization

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-  And then eviction prevention. This is pretty limited, but for our most vulnerable families, we're

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-  trying to offer services again, so

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-  They are not evicted from our our program

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-  I'm gonna go into more depth with Summit Hill in a moment, but that is our nonprofit

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-  It is controlled by our commissioners. It's a separate board that has a couple additional board

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-  members in addition to the commissioners

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-  and I will

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-  Say more in a moment

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-  So housing choice vouchers we have 1721

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-  Project-based vouchers you can see the number there most recently

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-  we

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-  Middle way applied for some project-based vouchers and we were able to grant those and as they have

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-  more units get inspected

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-  We'll be able to add some more project-based vouchers there

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-  We have vash, so that's for veterans

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-  We have some single-room occupancy and before you get excited about that

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-  Given the other changes that are coming with the UDO. Hopefully you HUD has no interest in granting

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-  more SROs

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-  in terms of vouchers

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-  We've already checked but the project-based vouchers that we can grant are pretty flexible

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-  So it could be that we can use those in SRO developments

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-  We're looking into that now

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-  The emergency housing voucher program started with kovat relief and those are going away those

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-  phase out next year

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-  So we are working to get those remaining voucher or holders on to our housing choice voucher

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-  program

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-  So they don't they don't lose housing or housing assistance

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-  And then we have 12 currently in our hop

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-  Which is the homeowner program where you can actually convert a voucher to a mortgage payment

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-  And so we're using that through our community land trust

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-  But also in the community several participants have just used that to buy a house on the market

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-  We have over 18 million and HAP

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-  that passes through the housing authority and pays landlords and

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-  I had some numbers crunched because I wanted you to see how many of those are just local

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-  mom-and-pop landlords that have you know, probably less than five units that are working with us

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-  and

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-  Just if that HAP if the voucher

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-  Subsidy gets cut federally you can imagine the impact that's going to have on our local economy

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-  so it's really critical and we've been doing the advocacy that we can to

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-  Ensure that that does not happen

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-  But anybody listening, please call your senators

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-  and

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-  Those are our weights currently so our rad weights are by bedroom our housing choice voucher

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-  We just closed that waiting list in April so you can see it's quite high

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-  and so that's already

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-  Before we open the waiting list we go through and kind of cleaned it up and a lot of people have

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-  found housing and it climbed this

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-  To that number and basically about six weeks, so it was very quick

00:26:55.840 --> 00:27:05.520
-  Summit Hill Community Development Corporation, this is our nonprofit that was established in 2019

00:27:05.520 --> 00:27:09.320
-  You may have heard of core community flats

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-  It is underway. If you drive down Rogers, you will see the historic core building being redeveloped

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-  We are actually I'm I'm quite shocked. We're on target in terms of our timeline. So those 38 units

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-  should come on

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-  early summer next year

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-  That does include nine PSH. So permanent supportive housing units, which are the same kind of units

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-  in Crawford

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-  We are doing something a little differently in that. There's also project-based vouchers there. So

00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:40.680
-  it's

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-  It's kind of mixed between the PBVs and the permanent supportive housing units

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.080
-  So we're hopeful about that

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-  Chandler Early Learning Center. This is named after the Reverend Dr.

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-  Chandler Marvin Chandler who is a local

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-  locally

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-  Born and mostly raised up on the hill

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-  civil rights leader and world-renowned musician

00:28:06.800 --> 00:28:11.840
-  So we will be dedicating the Early Learning Center in his honor

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-  that'll have 28 seats for infants and toddlers on the first floor and then

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-  Three two-bedroom affordable apartments on the second floor and then we have the Summit Hill

00:28:21.760 --> 00:28:22.920
-  Community Land Trust

00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:28.880
-  We still hear the question of why the city of Bloomington doesn't have a land trust and I just want

00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.000
-  to set the record straight

00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:37.030
-  There is a land trust. It's different than many land trusts. It did not start as a grassroots

00:28:37.030 --> 00:28:37.660
-  project

00:28:37.660 --> 00:28:41.720
-  It's a bit odd in that sense because it was started by the municipality

00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.660
-  But this is a trend there are more and more

00:28:44.660 --> 00:28:51.600
-  Municipalities that are giving land and funding to basically get a land trust started. So

00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:55.960
-  We've got nine homes right now over off of

00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:03.500
-  What's it called atlas on 17th north of there's where our property is we are on the search for new

00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:04.320
-  properties

00:29:04.320 --> 00:29:11.390
-  Potential projects we have funding partial funding for a four-plex pilot that will be part of our

00:29:11.390 --> 00:29:12.240
-  land trust

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:18.850
-  The thinking here is that we can replicate this and maybe get pre-approved plans and some of the

00:29:18.850 --> 00:29:20.320
-  other new developments such as

00:29:20.320 --> 00:29:22.680
-  Hopewell or

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-  the larger development on the southwest side

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-  That we could have a model for plex to be able to go in there at a middle income range

00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.840
-  So a eighty to a hundred and twenty percent AMI

00:29:33.840 --> 00:29:41.780
-  We are getting pretty far down the road in partnership with mother Hubbard's cupboard

00:29:41.780 --> 00:29:48.160
-  to purchase the four and a half lots east of mother Hubbard's and partner with them on a

00:29:49.280 --> 00:29:54.490
-  On a development that would incorporate gardens and community space for their services and a

00:29:54.490 --> 00:29:57.160
-  cottage development as part of the land trust

00:29:57.160 --> 00:30:03.000
-  So we're excited about that. We're obviously trying to generate funds at this point, but that would

00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:04.680
-  be the next step for our land trust

00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:10.900
-  You've heard of transit oriented oriented development. There's also food oriented development. That's

00:30:10.900 --> 00:30:12.520
-  kind of the model that we're we're looking at

00:30:14.360 --> 00:30:19.440
-  Essential function bonds is something else. We're exploring housing authorities as a semi-governmental

00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.420
-  agency. We can actually issue bonds and

00:30:21.420 --> 00:30:29.010
-  Some housing authorities are beginning to do these projects for workforce housing. It's totally

00:30:29.010 --> 00:30:29.980
-  separate from HUD

00:30:29.980 --> 00:30:33.460
-  You're not under their thumb for any of that kind of development

00:30:33.460 --> 00:30:37.880
-  so you can actually set the income up to 120 percent and

00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:43.380
-  last Faircloth's a rad just really quickly Faircloth is the

00:30:44.060 --> 00:30:49.770
-  The Faircloth limit is how much every housing authority how many public housing units they are

00:30:49.770 --> 00:30:50.600
-  permitted

00:30:50.600 --> 00:30:55.740
-  The ones we have developed is are well below what we're permitted

00:30:55.740 --> 00:31:01.260
-  So there's another light tech deal that could be possible where you do the light tech with your

00:31:01.260 --> 00:31:07.260
-  Essentially creating more public housing that immediately converts to rad at closing

00:31:07.260 --> 00:31:12.060
-  So we're excited about that. That would be potentially 185 additional

00:31:12.580 --> 00:31:17.640
-  housing authority units, so we'll we will see that's probably years off, but

00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:22.660
-  So this is what our revenue is looking like for next year

00:31:22.660 --> 00:31:30.940
-  That HUD admin is basically what operates our our authority

00:31:30.940 --> 00:31:38.460
-  We have a number of ARPA grants that are being spent down, but will primarily be spent down in

00:31:38.460 --> 00:31:40.540
-  2026

00:31:40.540 --> 00:31:44.300
-  One of those I'll just mention with a land trust. There's additional money

00:31:44.300 --> 00:31:50.460
-  To make the land trust homes affordable to buyers under 60% AMI

00:31:50.460 --> 00:31:55.220
-  So that's where some of that ARPA money is going from I think it originally was with heading home

00:31:55.220 --> 00:32:00.670
-  And then a number of other projects including the one with the health foundation and the grocery

00:32:00.670 --> 00:32:01.300
-  shuttle

00:32:01.300 --> 00:32:06.480
-  We have a number of miscellaneous grants and then we're also working with the digital legity equity

00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:08.180
-  program program

00:32:08.180 --> 00:32:10.260
-  I think it's called digital opportunity now

00:32:10.740 --> 00:32:12.740
-  and

00:32:12.740 --> 00:32:14.740
-  Hoping to grow that

00:32:14.740 --> 00:32:20.660
-  So I will wrap up here and answer any questions you have

00:32:20.660 --> 00:32:26.830
-  Common denominator for us about why we've been able to develop affordable housing. It's you know,

00:32:26.830 --> 00:32:29.300
-  it's partly funding and partnerships

00:32:29.300 --> 00:32:33.820
-  But really the land has been contributed in every case

00:32:33.820 --> 00:32:36.660
-  so I don't know I

00:32:37.220 --> 00:32:42.210
-  My request is that the city really consider how do you free up land for affordable housing

00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:43.060
-  development?

00:32:43.060 --> 00:32:46.620
-  Because that is what makes it possible for us

00:32:46.620 --> 00:32:53.330
-  the land trust the rad housing we already owned it the early learning center is on a long-term

00:32:53.330 --> 00:32:54.940
-  lease so

00:32:54.940 --> 00:32:59.820
-  Pushing that however we can happy to be a part of that conversation, obviously

00:33:02.100 --> 00:33:06.830
-  Continuing to reduce barriers to missing middle housing. I was sorry to miss last week's meeting

00:33:06.830 --> 00:33:07.100
-  but

00:33:07.100 --> 00:33:13.540
-  We're definitely in support of anything. That's gonna reduce lot sizes allow us to split them

00:33:13.540 --> 00:33:19.820
-  There's a whole long list of things. We would love to see happen more plexus opportunity for

00:33:19.820 --> 00:33:25.060
-  Small apartment buildings all of those things are things we can develop

00:33:25.620 --> 00:33:32.580
-  So if if given the right tools, I would love to see incentives based on housing type

00:33:32.580 --> 00:33:37.800
-  Instead of tied to the buyer or renter income. I think that could free up

00:33:37.800 --> 00:33:43.000
-  Some some energy there to actually buy the kind or build the kind of housing that we want

00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:47.660
-  Partnerships are really key to our long-term success

00:33:47.660 --> 00:33:50.740
-  In my short time in this role

00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:54.380
-  The families that are really struggling in our services

00:33:55.380 --> 00:34:00.340
-  Are only successful if we have partner social service providers coming in

00:34:00.340 --> 00:34:05.580
-  So that extended case management that you've probably heard about is absolutely critical

00:34:05.580 --> 00:34:08.540
-  the whole homelessness

00:34:08.540 --> 00:34:12.740
-  conversation and press is absolutely critical, but it kind of

00:34:12.740 --> 00:34:15.420
-  sucks all the air out of the room and

00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:19.700
-  We need to also consider the families that are at risk of being evicted

00:34:19.700 --> 00:34:24.740
-  And focus some energy on keeping those folks house so they don't end up

00:34:25.220 --> 00:34:27.020
-  unhoused so

00:34:27.020 --> 00:34:31.100
-  Those are my I'm sure I have other things. I'm forgetting, but those are the things

00:34:31.100 --> 00:34:34.940
-  I really wanted to stress with you all and I appreciate you having me here tonight

00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:38.380
-  I am also happy to share more budget numbers as we

00:34:38.380 --> 00:34:46.140
-  Solidify that so happy to come back so any questions I can answer. Thank you questions comes member

00:34:46.140 --> 00:34:49.860
-  Sorry, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you director for area

00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:55.950
-  This was the first time and I don't know I might just be particularly uninformed that I had heard

00:34:55.950 --> 00:34:58.300
-  about the freezing of the

00:34:58.300 --> 00:35:03.940
-  Risk mitigation fund the landlord mitigation fund

00:35:03.940 --> 00:35:10.020
-  Could you tell us a bit more context who who froze it? What are we talking about when you say this?

00:35:10.020 --> 00:35:13.020
-  froze might have been the wrong word it

00:35:13.020 --> 00:35:20.660
-  It originally was ARPA and that we discovered that you cannot use ARPA in a rotating

00:35:20.780 --> 00:35:26.220
-  Account essentially so money coming coming in and going out ARPA cannot be used that way

00:35:26.220 --> 00:35:32.210
-  So we've been scrambling to find another source to cover that and it sounds like the city's gonna

00:35:32.210 --> 00:35:33.100
-  help do that

00:35:33.100 --> 00:35:34.900
-  We're just kind of waiting on

00:35:34.900 --> 00:35:40.410
-  That budget to get approved and can you help us understand the size the the size of that fund we

00:35:40.410 --> 00:35:41.200
-  requested

00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:44.860
-  200,000

00:35:44.860 --> 00:35:46.860
-  200,000 hand

00:35:46.860 --> 00:35:51.480
-  200,000 was was how much we had allocated from ARPA funds that were sort of in a revolving

00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:57.210
-  No, we had already spent quite a bit of those ARPA funds. So 200,000 was closer to what was left.

00:35:57.210 --> 00:35:57.820
-  Okay. Yeah

00:35:57.820 --> 00:36:01.740
-  Thank you. I have another question, but it's on a different topic. So I'll come back in a second.

00:36:01.740 --> 00:36:01.880
-  Yeah

00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.460
-  Okay councilmember Piedmont Smith

00:36:04.460 --> 00:36:08.460
-  Yes, thank you very much for your presentation

00:36:08.460 --> 00:36:15.200
-  Your slide about budget said you get nine hundred thirty six thousand dollars in grants in city

00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:15.580
-  grants

00:36:16.220 --> 00:36:21.180
-  Is that can you tell me more about that? Yeah, they various grant programs

00:36:21.180 --> 00:36:23.500
-  It's it is

00:36:23.500 --> 00:36:25.940
-  predominantly ARPA

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:31.440
-  So and these those funds are actually funds that are not associated with Early Learning Center or

00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:31.860
-  core

00:36:31.860 --> 00:36:34.460
-  so the

00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:39.100
-  fourplex pilot is for her is 250,000 the

00:36:39.100 --> 00:36:45.300
-  Eviction prevention that we got from ARPA is 60,000 the

00:36:46.260 --> 00:36:48.820
-  You're gonna test my memory here. Oh

00:36:48.820 --> 00:36:54.300
-  The

00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:59.100
-  CLT subsidy the land trust subsidy is another two hundred and fifty thousand

00:36:59.100 --> 00:37:05.880
-  And that's I think primarily what we're getting for the remaining ARPA and that was primarily from

00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.220
-  the heading homes

00:37:07.220 --> 02:01:51.280
-  funds and then we were all we had also applied for CDBG and were awarded but those funds haven't

02:01:51.280 --> 00:37:15.260
-  been released to us

00:37:15.260 --> 00:37:17.020
-  yet, so

00:37:17.020 --> 00:37:20.500
-  That's gonna pay for playgrounds at Walnut Woods

00:37:20.500 --> 00:37:26.300
-  I can get you a breakdown of specifics, but I don't I don't have it all in my head. So

00:37:26.300 --> 00:37:28.780
-  Okay. Thank you. Yeah

00:37:28.780 --> 00:37:30.780
-  councilmember Rallo

00:37:30.780 --> 00:37:36.900
-  Thanks for your presentation you mentioned involved city involvement in free

00:37:41.700 --> 00:37:45.880
-  Could be direct purchase maybe these might be one

00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:55.640
-  I'm sorry, I didn't I didn't catch all the all the question

00:37:55.640 --> 00:38:01.700
-  Can you repeat that again mentioned freeing up land having land for affordability for four thousand?

00:38:01.700 --> 00:38:04.340
-  Do you have ideas? I

00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:11.140
-  Know that right now to get land there has to be two appraisals and it has to be purchased

00:38:11.660 --> 00:38:17.660
-  That's my understanding of the process. I would love I don't know if there's a way to change that

00:38:17.660 --> 00:38:18.020
-  but

00:38:18.020 --> 00:38:25.860
-  Making it so land can be donated for affordable housing to projects. I think would would be great

00:38:25.860 --> 00:38:29.780
-  I don't know the full list of what land the city owns

00:38:29.780 --> 00:38:33.660
-  It could also be you know partnering to purchase land

00:38:33.660 --> 00:38:38.860
-  We will continue to request funds for for that purpose as well

00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:45.160
-  But yeah freeing up the land that's city-owned that may not be doing anything right now would be

00:38:45.160 --> 00:38:52.860
-  Our primarily what I was thinking of I see okay. Thanks for that clarification. That's interesting.

00:38:52.860 --> 00:38:54.780
-  Sure look into that great

00:38:54.780 --> 00:39:02.250
-  Thank you, there's 20 minutes reserved for this section of the agenda and we have gone through 20

00:39:02.250 --> 00:39:03.380
-  minutes at this point

00:39:03.380 --> 00:39:06.580
-  Are there further questions that?

00:39:06.580 --> 00:39:09.260
-  Can't wait

00:39:10.060 --> 00:39:14.720
-  Great, thank you so much. Mr. Ferrera. I appreciate the report. I might follow up with a couple of

00:39:14.720 --> 00:39:15.260
-  things

00:39:15.260 --> 00:39:17.260
-  Thanks for having me. Thank you

00:39:17.260 --> 00:39:22.500
-  All right, there were no council committee reports

00:39:22.500 --> 00:39:26.220
-  so then we move into our first period of

00:39:26.220 --> 00:39:32.190
-  Public comment so if you're a member of the public and would like to make a comment on an item not

00:39:32.190 --> 00:39:33.180
-  on the agenda

00:39:33.180 --> 00:39:36.820
-  You can go ahead and make your way to the podium

00:39:36.820 --> 00:39:41.810
-  You will have up to three minutes. If you're online, you can go ahead and raise your hand using the

00:39:41.810 --> 00:39:43.300
-  raise hand function

00:39:43.300 --> 00:39:46.700
-  Or you can send a chat message to the host

00:39:46.700 --> 00:39:50.000
-  And it looks like we have somebody

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.980
-  here in chambers

00:39:52.980 --> 00:39:56.900
-  So please state your name for the record and then you'll have up to three minutes

00:39:56.900 --> 00:40:06.180
-  Okay, thanks everybody it's good to see you all I was here

00:40:07.060 --> 00:40:10.420
-  Last weekend three minutes really wasn't enough time

00:40:10.420 --> 00:40:14.420
-  It actually pertains to housing

00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:17.460
-  affordable housing our

00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:20.220
-  neighborhood a

00:40:20.220 --> 00:40:27.170
-  Very nice house beautiful little house on a wooded lot has been bought and now they tell me they're

00:40:27.170 --> 00:40:28.580
-  gonna tear it down

00:40:28.580 --> 00:40:31.260
-  Turn it into a fourplex

00:40:31.260 --> 00:40:34.140
-  Okay

00:40:34.140 --> 00:40:41.880
-  One thing I should say just to start with my dad was the head of urban renewal here in Bloomington

00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:49.700
-  They built literally hundreds of houses out there on the west side of the town and man

00:40:49.700 --> 00:40:54.860
-  We needed it. I mean people were living in in houses with the

00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:57.500
-  wooden floors

00:40:57.500 --> 00:41:03.260
-  or wood floors with dirt floors, so I'm not opposed to

00:41:03.260 --> 00:41:04.940
-  to

00:41:04.940 --> 00:41:12.340
-  Housing for poor people what I am opposed to deeply is this idea that you can just

00:41:12.340 --> 00:41:17.180
-  Come into a neighborhood and say hey

00:41:17.180 --> 00:41:21.540
-  You know we've decided this and it's for you know

00:41:21.540 --> 00:41:26.900
-  The greater good and so forth and the neighborhood has no say in it. I think that's wrong

00:41:28.820 --> 00:41:33.340
-  Okay, I've written this down. I don't know if you all got it. I don't think you did

00:41:33.340 --> 00:41:41.660
-  I'd like to form a request that a vote be taken by the council for an amendment to the

00:41:41.660 --> 00:41:46.980
-  Udo code that would allow for a vote by all residents living within a neighborhood

00:41:46.980 --> 00:41:52.440
-  Associated to have the final say about whether or not a four-plex goes on okay

00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.860
-  Running out of time

00:41:54.860 --> 00:41:56.860
-  May I ask you?

00:41:57.140 --> 00:42:02.740
-  With a show of hands who is not in favor of a measure

00:42:02.740 --> 00:42:13.940
-  To give members of neighborhood not just formal members of the neighborhood

00:42:13.940 --> 00:42:20.860
-  Associated to side by a vote whether a four-plex you do yo should be built in their

00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:26.740
-  Neighborhood could I have a show of hands the people who are not in favor of that?

00:42:27.620 --> 00:42:32.260
-  We don't usually have a back-and-forth with members of the public right now

00:42:32.260 --> 00:42:36.880
-  We don't usually have a back-and-forth with members of the public. I can't ask that or you can ask

00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:37.140
-  it

00:42:37.140 --> 00:42:39.140
-  We're just not necessarily going to answer it

00:42:39.140 --> 00:42:41.460
-  I

00:42:41.460 --> 00:42:43.460
-  Can't ask by a show of hands

00:42:43.460 --> 00:42:49.300
-  Well anyway, I I think yeah, I don't know read what I read what I had to say

00:42:49.300 --> 00:42:55.700
-  I think there should be an amendment to this Udo thing that allows for the neighborhood to decide

00:42:55.700 --> 00:42:57.700
-  neighborhood to decide

00:42:57.700 --> 00:42:59.780
-  Whether this thing is gonna

00:42:59.780 --> 00:43:01.620
-  progress

00:43:01.620 --> 00:43:03.220
-  Okay

00:43:03.220 --> 00:43:04.820
-  Zero

00:43:04.820 --> 00:43:07.620
-  Yeah, your time. I don't know. Could you pass that down?

00:43:07.620 --> 00:43:10.260
-  Yes, it was passed down

00:43:10.260 --> 00:43:13.460
-  Um, okay. Thanks everybody in the future. I don't mean that I think you guys

00:43:13.460 --> 00:43:18.900
-  Mr. Linmeyer in the future in the future if you have something to hand to council members if you

00:43:18.900 --> 00:43:20.500
-  could give it to council staff

00:43:20.500 --> 00:43:23.140
-  When you come in instead of approaching the podium, that would be great

00:43:23.460 --> 00:43:25.460
-  I couldn't hear a word you said

00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:31.970
-  In in the future if you have something to give to council members at a meeting if you could give it

00:43:31.970 --> 00:43:33.220
-  to council staff

00:43:33.220 --> 00:43:35.700
-  Instead of coming up to the podium. That would be great

00:43:35.700 --> 00:43:44.340
-  Um, I think we have another person here in chambers for public comment

00:43:44.340 --> 00:43:49.080
-  Go ahead and state your name for the record and then you'll have up to three minutes

00:43:49.080 --> 00:43:51.080
-  Um

00:43:51.080 --> 00:43:56.840
-  My name is sarah owen

00:43:56.840 --> 00:44:01.150
-  I am the community engagement coordinator for the exodus refugee immigration office here in

00:44:01.150 --> 00:44:01.800
-  bloomington

00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:07.320
-  Exodus is dedicated to the protection of human rights by serving the resettlement needs of refugees

00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.560
-  and other displaced people fleeing persecution

00:44:09.560 --> 00:44:12.040
-  Injustice and war by welcoming them to indiana

00:44:12.680 --> 00:44:16.400
-  First and foremost, we'd like to extend our thanks to councilwoman zulik our district

00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:18.760
-  representative for taking the time to come and tour

00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:23.320
-  Our new office space some weeks back and for sitting down to learn more about exodus's work

00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:27.930
-  We would also like to recognize the bloomington police department for their support in recent

00:44:27.930 --> 00:44:28.360
-  months

00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.300
-  We have utilized bpd this year for several crisis situations

00:44:32.300 --> 00:44:37.980
-  All situations were handled professionally and with care ensuring no further escalation of the

00:44:37.980 --> 00:44:38.680
-  situation

00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:44.200
-  In one instance in particular officers went above and beyond to ensure care of our clients

00:44:44.200 --> 00:44:48.300
-  So we appreciate their efforts and their approach to our clients in these situations

00:44:48.300 --> 00:44:53.840
-  Today exodus wanted to take the opportunity to speak to the city council about what we believe is

00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:55.880
-  an essential need for city operations

00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:02.620
-  And that it and that is to work into its budget the cost of a contracted language line or language

00:45:02.620 --> 00:45:03.800
-  interpretation service

00:45:04.520 --> 00:45:09.190
-  This would be a major step in ensuring equitable access to city resources for all bloomington

00:45:09.190 --> 00:45:09.800
-  residents

00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:15.100
-  Naturally the highest priority for a contracted interpretation service would be to serve as a

00:45:15.100 --> 00:45:16.920
-  resource for our first responders

00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:22.920
-  In times of crisis intervention people need to be able to make need to be able to understand all

00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:24.060
-  essential information

00:45:24.060 --> 00:45:30.600
-  Whether it's making decisions, excuse me decisions about urgent medical care or fully understanding

00:45:30.600 --> 00:45:33.160
-  their rights if they are being questioned or detained

00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.000
-  In reference to the thank you that was extended to bpd a moment ago

00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:41.160
-  I would be remiss if I did not note that exodus has on more than one occasion

00:45:41.160 --> 00:45:46.620
-  Been the conduit to ensure that interpretation was provided in instances of police intervention

00:45:46.620 --> 00:45:52.360
-  Had we not had our own contracted language line available to call who's to say how much frustration

00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.280
-  and confusion and even fear

00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.680
-  May have been factors in those situations

00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:02.140
-  It's worth noting that of the nearly 500 people that we have welcomed to bloomington our clients

00:46:02.140 --> 00:46:04.600
-  alone represent over 20 different languages

00:46:04.600 --> 00:46:09.720
-  And the necessity of a contracted interpretation service does not end with the need for emergency

00:46:09.720 --> 00:46:10.620
-  situations

00:46:10.620 --> 00:46:14.940
-  If our immigrant neighbors need to be connected to more resources through cfrd

00:46:14.940 --> 00:46:18.040
-  Or if they need to report a negligent landlord to hand

00:46:18.040 --> 00:46:22.080
-  Or if they even wish to register their child for bloomington youth basketball through the parks

00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:22.680
-  department

00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:27.720
-  We believe that exodus clients and any other non-english speaker who calls bloomington their home

00:46:27.720 --> 00:46:31.320
-  Should have the right to easily access any and all city services

00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:36.170
-  If the city were to prioritize the cost of such a contract and have a language line that was

00:46:36.170 --> 00:46:38.040
-  readily available to all of its department

00:46:38.040 --> 00:46:43.950
-  That investment comes with a promise that exodus refugee will personally provide training free of

00:46:43.950 --> 00:46:45.800
-  charge to all city departments

00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:51.590
-  So that city personnel are knowledgeable in how to properly use a phone interpretation service.

00:46:51.590 --> 00:46:51.880
-  Thank you

00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:54.440
-  You

00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:59.970
-  Thank you, um, I don't see anybody else here in chambers right now for public comment has anybody

00:46:59.970 --> 00:47:01.260
-  raised a hand on zoom

00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:09.880
-  No, okay

00:47:09.880 --> 00:47:15.070
-  Seeing none. We'll uh move on from the public comment period. Uh, there are no appointments to

00:47:15.070 --> 00:47:16.460
-  boards and commissions

00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:23.800
-  So we're on to legislation for first readings and I am without my uh parliamentarian right now

00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.280
-  So does somebody want to make the motions?

00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:33.160
-  I moved it. Thank you. I move that ordinance 2025 - 35

00:47:33.160 --> 00:47:39.400
-  Be read by title and synopsis be introduced and read by title and synopsis only by the clerk

00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:46.920
-  second second. Thank you. It's been moved and seconded to introduce and read ordinance 2025 35.

00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:51.160
-  We need to do a roll call vote on everything tonight because we do have a member online.

00:47:51.160 --> 00:47:53.640
-  So will the clerk please call the roll on the motion to introduce.

00:47:53.640 --> 00:48:05.960
-  Piedmont Smith. Yes. Stasberg. Yes. Daly. No. Zulek. Yes. Rosenberger. Yes. Asari. Yes.

00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:13.480
-  Laherty. Yes. Ruff. Yes. Rallo. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Will the clerk please read.

00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:25.880
-  Ordinance 2025-35 to amend Title IX of the Bloomington Municipal Code entitled Water

00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:31.000
-  Rate Adjustment. The synopsis is as follows. This ordinance amends the rates and charges

00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:36.360
-  in Title IX of the Bloomington Municipal Code entitled Water to reflect increased costs of

00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:41.240
-  supplying water and services to customers and to make debt service payments on bond

00:48:41.240 --> 00:48:52.360
-  financing for required capital improvements. I move that. Thank you. Go ahead. I wasn't sure

00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:59.160
-  if she was done. Yeah. Do the next one. I move that ordinance 2025-36 be read by title and

00:48:59.160 --> 00:49:07.960
-  synopsis only by the clerk. Second. So moved and seconded to introduce 20 ordinance 2025-36.

00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.840
-  Will the clerk please call the roll on that motion?

00:49:17.720 --> 00:49:30.600
-  Councilmember Stossberg? Yes. Daley? Yes. Zuley? Yes. Rosenberger? Yes. Osari? Yes. Flaherty? Yes.

00:49:30.600 --> 00:49:40.280
-  Ruff? Rallo? Yes. Piedmont-Smith? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Will the clerk please read?

00:49:43.160 --> 00:49:49.240
-  Ordinance 2025-36, an ordinance authorizing the acquisition, construction, and installation

00:49:49.240 --> 00:49:54.360
-  by the City of Bloomington, Indiana, of certain extensions and improvements to the city's Waterworks

00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.720
-  utility, the issuance and sale of revenue bonds to provide funds for the payment of the cost thereof,

00:49:59.720 --> 00:50:04.280
-  and the collection, segregation, and distribution of the revenues of such Waterworks utility and

00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:11.560
-  other related matters. The synopsis is as follows. This ordinance authorizes the City of Bloomington

00:50:11.560 --> 00:50:16.600
-  to issue one or more series of its Waterworks revenue bonds in the aggregate principal amount

00:50:16.600 --> 00:50:24.840
-  not to exceed 71 million dollars, a portion of which are anticipated to be issued in 2026

00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:30.280
-  and the remainder in 2028. The bonds will be issued to finance all or a portion of the

00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:35.240
-  cost of design, engineering, acquisition, construction, equipping, and improvement

00:50:35.240 --> 00:50:40.360
-  of capital projects related to the Monroe Water Treatment Plant, the Waterworks Distribution

00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:46.920
-  System, and WaterMain, and a new service center and maintenance buildings and pay costs of the

00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:57.160
-  issuance of the bonds. Thank you. I move that Appropriation Ordinance 2025-08 be introduced

00:50:57.160 --> 00:51:03.000
-  and read by the Clerk by title and synopsis only. Second. Thank you. It's been moved and

00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:07.160
-  seconded to introduce Appropriation Ordinance 2025-08. Will the Clerk please call the roll

00:51:07.160 --> 00:51:19.480
-  on that motion? Yes. Council Member Dailey? Yes. Zulek? Yes. Rosenberger? Yes. Asari? Yes.

00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:29.800
-  Flaherty? Yes. Ruff? Yes. Rallo? Yes. Piedmont-Smith? Yes. Stasberg? Yes. Thank you.

00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.640
-  Thank you. That motion passes. Will the Clerk please read?

00:51:31.640 --> 00:51:44.360
-  Appropriation Ordinance 2025-08. To transfer funds from the General Fund to the Fiber Connectivity

00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.680
-  Fund and especially appropriate funds not otherwise budgeted. The synopsis is as follows.

00:51:48.680 --> 00:51:56.120
-  Appropriation Ordinance 2025-08 transfers funding from the General Fund to the Fiber Connectivity

00:51:56.120 --> 00:52:00.360
-  Fund and appropriates that funding for the ITS Department per the City's Master Development

00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:07.640
-  Agreement with Meridium / Hoosier Network / I'm not sure if this is a typo or not M Street Fiber

00:52:07.640 --> 00:52:15.640
-  or Fiber. Sorry. Thank you. I don't believe that is a typo. I think we looked that up.

00:52:15.640 --> 00:52:23.720
-  Thank you. Moving on to the next. I move that Appropriation Ordinance 2025-09 be introduced

00:52:23.720 --> 00:52:30.040
-  and read by the Clerk by title and synopsis only. Second. It's been moved and seconded to

00:52:30.040 --> 00:52:32.580
-  to introduce appropriation ordinance 2025-09.

00:52:32.580 --> 00:52:35.320
-  Will the clerk please call the roll on that motion?

00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:37.220
-  Council Member Zulek?

00:52:37.220 --> 00:52:38.620
-  Yes.

00:52:38.620 --> 00:52:39.460
-  Rosenberger?

00:52:39.460 --> 00:52:40.300
-  Yes.

00:52:40.300 --> 00:52:41.120
-  Asari?

00:52:41.120 --> 00:52:41.960
-  Yes.

00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:42.800
-  Flaherty?

00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:43.620
-  Yes.

00:52:43.620 --> 00:52:44.460
-  Ruff?

00:52:44.460 --> 00:52:45.300
-  Yes.

00:52:45.300 --> 00:52:46.120
-  Rallo?

00:52:46.120 --> 00:52:46.960
-  Yes.

00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:48.180
-  Piedmont-Smith?

00:52:48.180 --> 00:52:49.020
-  Yes.

00:52:49.020 --> 00:52:49.840
-  Sasseberg?

00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:50.680
-  Yes.

00:52:50.680 --> 00:52:51.520
-  Daly?

00:52:51.520 --> 00:52:52.360
-  Yes.

00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:53.180
-  Thank you.

00:52:53.180 --> 00:52:54.020
-  Thank you, that motion passes.

00:52:54.020 --> 00:52:55.120
-  Will the clerk please read?

00:52:59.580 --> 00:53:02.580
-  Appropriation ordinance 2025-09

00:53:02.580 --> 00:53:04.980
-  to specially appropriate from the general fund expenditures

00:53:04.980 --> 00:53:06.940
-  not otherwise appropriated.

00:53:06.940 --> 00:53:08.440
-  The synopsis is as follows.

00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.100
-  Appropriation ordinance 2025-09

00:53:11.100 --> 00:53:15.060
-  additionally appropriates funding from the general fund

00:53:15.060 --> 00:53:16.940
-  for expenses in the ITS department,

00:53:16.940 --> 00:53:18.760
-  for expenses in the engineering department

00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:21.500
-  that have been reimbursed by Indiana University,

00:53:21.500 --> 00:53:25.140
-  and to approve a transfer between categories

00:53:25.140 --> 00:53:27.100
-  in the clerk's office budget.

00:53:27.100 --> 00:53:27.940
-  Thank you.

00:53:27.940 --> 00:53:32.980
-  Thank you.

00:53:32.980 --> 00:53:37.060
-  Those four ordinances will be heard for second reading

00:53:37.060 --> 00:53:38.880
-  at our next regular session meeting,

00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:41.860
-  and I really wanted to put a note on this.

00:53:41.860 --> 00:53:44.900
-  That is on Tuesday, September 30th.

00:53:44.900 --> 00:53:46.340
-  Tuesday, September 30th,

00:53:46.340 --> 00:53:49.540
-  because the Wednesday of that week is Yom Kippur,

00:53:49.540 --> 00:53:51.540
-  so we are not meeting on that day.

00:53:51.540 --> 00:53:53.820
-  And the second reading for those

00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:55.980
-  will count as required public hearing

00:53:55.980 --> 00:53:58.420
-  on those pieces of legislation that require that.

00:53:58.420 --> 00:54:03.380
-  So moving on to our second readings and resolutions.

00:54:03.380 --> 00:54:08.420
-  And as a reminder, we voted to amend the agenda earlier

00:54:08.420 --> 00:54:10.520
-  this evening to change the order of these.

00:54:10.520 --> 00:54:16.020
-  I move that ordinance 2025-34 be introduced

00:54:16.020 --> 00:54:19.300
-  and read by the clerk by title and synopsis only.

00:54:19.300 --> 00:54:20.180
-  Second.

00:54:20.180 --> 00:54:21.100
-  It's been moved and seconded

00:54:21.100 --> 00:54:23.380
-  to introduce ordinance 2025-34.

00:54:23.380 --> 00:54:25.780
-  Will the clerk please call the roll on that motion?

00:54:25.780 --> 00:54:42.200
-  just one moment please. Ornans 2025 oh my sorry let's have it. Rosenberger? Yes. Asari? Yes.

00:54:42.200 --> 00:54:56.860
-  Flaherty? Yes. Ruff? Rallo? Yes. Piedmont-Smith? Yes. Stasberg? Yes. Daly? Yes. Zulek? Yes. Thank

00:54:56.860 --> 00:54:57.020
-  you.

00:54:57.020 --> 00:55:10.200
-  Thank you that motion passes will the clerk please read. Ordinance 2025-34 to

00:55:10.200 --> 00:55:13.980
-  establish a fund for the proceeds of the surety bonds secured for work on

00:55:13.980 --> 00:55:18.740
-  fiber optics network for the city of Bloomington Monroe County Indiana. The

00:55:18.740 --> 00:55:23.580
-  synopsis is as follows. This ordinance establishes a dedicated non-referring

00:55:23.580 --> 00:55:27.300
-  fund to hold the 1 million dollars received in the surety bond payment on

00:55:27.300 --> 00:55:32.500
-  bond number 1160465 was called due to failure by Meridian

00:55:32.500 --> 00:55:39.820
-  infrastructure North America corporation subcontractor AEG to properly install

00:55:39.820 --> 00:55:44.060
-  fiber within the city limits. Damages were incurred by the city and certain

00:55:44.060 --> 00:55:47.260
-  notice of violations were issued by the city of Bloomington engineering

00:55:47.260 --> 00:55:52.100
-  department against AEG who was working on Meridian's behalf for violations of

00:55:52.100 --> 00:55:56.060
-  title 12 the Bloomington Municipal Code regarding work performed in the right of

00:55:56.060 --> 00:56:00.500
-  way. Appropriations of the funds will be requested by the city of Bloomington

00:56:00.500 --> 00:56:07.100
-  controller to the City Council at a later date. Thank you. I move ordinance

00:56:07.100 --> 00:56:14.700
-  2025 - 34 be adopted. Great that looks like we have the controller here to

00:56:14.700 --> 00:56:21.660
-  present if you could oh okay maybe we have the city attorney here to present

00:56:21.660 --> 00:56:31.940
-  whoever yep okay if you could make sure to introduce yourself for the record we

00:56:31.940 --> 00:56:37.220
-  just barely started 2025 - 34. Thank you I'm Margie Rice Corporation Council for

00:56:37.220 --> 00:56:42.580
-  the city of Bloomington and I am out of breath but I will tell you I avoided

00:56:42.580 --> 00:56:49.180
-  falling down the stairs which is great. I am here to ask for a fund to be created

00:56:49.180 --> 00:56:54.420
-  and this is really a kind of small housekeeping matter related to a much

00:56:54.420 --> 00:57:02.100
-  larger issue. I'm going to explain the larger issue just briefly to give

00:57:02.100 --> 00:57:09.860
-  context for why I'm asking for this fund. So in 2021 the city entered into a

00:57:09.860 --> 00:57:16.620
-  letter of intent with Meridian to do kind of a public-private partnership to

00:57:16.620 --> 00:57:23.420
-  install fiber in the city of Bloomington and a master development agreement was

00:57:23.420 --> 00:57:30.420
-  signed in June of 22. TIFF was created it's called a spider TIFF was created in

00:57:30.420 --> 00:57:37.500
-  June of 22 and everything sort of proceeded from there and fiber was

00:57:37.500 --> 00:57:42.380
-  starting to be installed throughout the city of Bloomington. Earlier this year

00:57:42.380 --> 00:57:50.260
-  around February we started hearing some noise that there were some problems with

00:57:50.260 --> 00:57:56.420
-  a subcontractor that Meridian had hired which was AEG or true line that had some

00:57:56.420 --> 00:58:02.380
-  different names. So we did some due diligence ended up the legal department

00:58:02.380 --> 00:58:12.700
-  in late March filed a notice with the insurance company that held the bond for

00:58:12.700 --> 00:58:18.500
-  a AEG true line. So when people do work in the right-of-way they're often

00:58:18.500 --> 00:58:24.600
-  required to get a bond an insurance policy essentially to protect the city

00:58:24.600 --> 00:58:32.700
-  from any damage done in the right-of-way. And so we filed a written notice with

00:58:32.700 --> 00:58:39.300
-  the insurance company it was Sampo International doing business as Lexan

00:58:39.300 --> 00:58:46.660
-  insurance company and it was we had a million dollar bond and so long story

00:58:46.660 --> 00:58:52.900
-  short we submitted information to them in late March and we received a check for a

00:58:52.900 --> 00:58:59.940
-  million dollars on July 8th was given to the controller's office she's held it it

00:58:59.940 --> 00:59:05.820
-  could just probably be deposited into the general fund however we would like a

00:59:05.820 --> 00:59:11.740
-  separate fund to be created to hold this million dollars so that and then we will

00:59:11.740 --> 00:59:16.140
-  be back to the council to ask for appropriations of that million dollars so

00:59:16.140 --> 00:59:21.180
-  tonight I'm not asking for appropriation we're just asking to create the fund

00:59:21.180 --> 00:59:27.180
-  that million dollars will be deposited in there and when we're ready to come

00:59:27.180 --> 00:59:32.060
-  back and ask for appropriations we'll come back it's really too early to tell

00:59:32.060 --> 00:59:40.500
-  how that money is going to be spent we have fines related to AEG's work in the

00:59:40.500 --> 00:59:45.540
-  right-of-way there are actual repairs being done in the right-of-way but

00:59:45.540 --> 00:59:50.300
-  Meridium who we have the agreement with remember the city never had an agreement

00:59:50.300 --> 00:59:55.340
-  with AEG we had an agreement with Meridium they've been a great partner so

00:59:55.340 --> 01:00:02.260
-  far they have been very responsive they have we've gotten another contractor out

01:00:02.260 --> 01:00:07.140
-  there doing work in the right-of-way they are also bonded and repairs are

01:00:07.140 --> 01:00:12.300
-  being made I'm sure there are still issues that need to be remedied but it's

01:00:12.300 --> 01:00:15.740
-  too early to tell right now where we're gonna need that million dollars so we're

01:00:15.740 --> 01:00:21.780
-  not asking for an appropriation this is just a fun creation I can tell you that

01:00:21.780 --> 01:00:27.820
-  this has been a true collaborative effort on many city departments so while

01:00:27.820 --> 01:00:34.020
-  we are the ones who you know started the legal action to get the bond payment

01:00:34.020 --> 01:00:38.620
-  there's been a ton of work done by engineering and public works ITS

01:00:38.620 --> 01:00:42.620
-  controller the mayor's office has been involved just a lot of different

01:00:42.620 --> 01:00:49.580
-  agencies or departments within the city have had to be responsive to getting the

01:00:49.580 --> 01:00:56.940
-  information to the insurance company and getting the information to you to the

01:00:56.940 --> 01:01:01.700
-  new contractor to start doing the repairs so tonight it's really just a

01:01:01.700 --> 01:01:04.300
-  very simple housekeeping please create the fund so we can put the million

01:01:04.300 --> 01:01:09.060
-  dollars in it but we'll have an opportunity to talk more about details

01:01:09.060 --> 01:01:13.460
-  as we get farther along and when we're asking for appropriations happy to

01:01:13.460 --> 01:01:17.380
-  answer any questions I'm here Jessica's here for the controller for financial

01:01:17.380 --> 01:01:23.860
-  questions I think Rick Dietz is Rick Dietz Rick Dietz is online we also have

01:01:23.860 --> 01:01:28.460
-  Andrew from engineering so happy to answer any questions thank you are there

01:01:28.460 --> 01:01:33.940
-  questions from council members council members sorry thank you so much council

01:01:33.940 --> 01:01:43.540
-  rice the within I think section 2 it says that that the the allowable funds the

01:01:43.540 --> 01:01:47.740
-  fund can be used for any loss costs damage caused by AG's work blah blah and

01:01:47.740 --> 01:01:53.860
-  the ends by saying or any other lawful purpose yeah so explain to us both why

01:01:53.860 --> 01:01:59.100
-  that language is necessary and and whether you know does that open up the

01:01:59.100 --> 01:02:02.500
-  fund to be you know what what is captured by any other lawful purpose

01:02:02.500 --> 01:02:08.300
-  within this fund excellent question and I don't really know what the gamut of

01:02:08.300 --> 01:02:13.300
-  uses could be but I sure didn't want to limit us and so I didn't say any other

01:02:13.300 --> 01:02:17.740
-  purpose but we said any other lawful purpose yeah I don't think there are

01:02:17.740 --> 01:02:26.140
-  again we were when we count when Andrew's office sort of looked at fines there

01:02:26.140 --> 01:02:30.420
-  were could if you calculated per day there could be millions of dollars to

01:02:30.420 --> 01:02:36.100
-  find there might actually have to be you know repairs in the rights away it may

01:02:36.100 --> 01:02:42.340
-  be that we want to use this fund for something else sort of IT related I just

01:02:42.340 --> 01:02:45.700
-  wanted to leave it as general as possible and we may have to have

01:02:45.700 --> 01:02:50.140
-  conversations at some point you know with for example state Board of Accounts

01:02:50.140 --> 01:02:55.300
-  about how could we use this and so I just put that catch-all in there to to

01:02:55.300 --> 01:02:59.100
-  save us in case some creative idea comes up and we want to be able to use it that

01:02:59.100 --> 01:03:03.100
-  way but the prime the primary goal is the mitigation of current expenses

01:03:03.100 --> 01:03:07.380
-  incurred yeah for residents and right-of-way issues right if that no we

01:03:07.380 --> 01:03:11.700
-  won't be using this money for payment to private individuals this will be for

01:03:11.700 --> 01:03:18.260
-  city use and we do expect the contractor that Meridian has working with now the

01:03:18.260 --> 01:03:23.020
-  second contractor to do the repairs in the right-of-way so but will be outside

01:03:23.020 --> 01:03:27.060
-  of the funding yeah we're hopeful that we won't have to use a lot of this

01:03:27.060 --> 01:03:32.060
-  because they'll they'll make it all good great yeah because that was the

01:03:32.060 --> 01:03:35.020
-  question about whether this is right-sized you know if we had actually

01:03:35.020 --> 01:03:44.220
-  meeting the king fantastic thank you yeah thank you council member Rallo well

01:03:44.220 --> 01:03:50.020
-  actually my colleague just asked the questions that I was asking but I was

01:03:50.020 --> 01:04:06.820
-  wondering about the I don't it is I'm gonna say again it's too early to tell

01:04:06.820 --> 01:04:11.780
-  whether it's gonna be but you adequate or not I can tell you though that your

01:04:11.780 --> 01:04:14.540
-  question made me think of another department I didn't mention that's been

01:04:14.540 --> 01:04:20.140
-  affected which is utilities and so and they've also been very helpful but as

01:04:20.140 --> 01:04:27.420
-  time goes on and as things you know freeze and thaw and we see damages you

01:04:27.420 --> 01:04:32.100
-  know that we don't see right now but we might see in another you know six months

01:04:32.100 --> 01:04:37.820
-  to a year we're just we are we're kind of slow rolling it a little bit on this

01:04:37.820 --> 01:04:41.940
-  because we do want to see how much the contractor gets done what other damages

01:04:41.940 --> 01:04:49.260
-  show up and and you know we're we felt very good that we in fairly quick order

01:04:49.260 --> 01:04:54.220
-  got a million dollars back got the whole bond recovered but it was really

01:04:54.220 --> 01:04:58.980
-  because of the record-keeping I think of many of the other departments that that

01:04:58.980 --> 01:05:05.460
-  helped us recover the million dollar bond which was the full amount thank you

01:05:05.460 --> 01:05:11.700
-  are there other questions a council attorney liner do you have a comment Rick

01:05:11.700 --> 01:05:22.540
-  Dietz has raised his hand online okay mr. Dietz do you have something to add to

01:05:22.540 --> 01:05:35.260
-  one of the questions that was already asked only I suppose to echo Margie's

01:05:35.260 --> 01:05:44.220
-  statement but also to amplify that by saying any any new you know discoveries

01:05:44.220 --> 01:05:57.700
-  of issues will be forwarded to M Street fiber meridian to fix. Even if there are issues that have

01:05:57.700 --> 01:06:07.430
-  occurred in the past, we anticipate that there will be issues that we discover that need to be

01:06:07.430 --> 01:06:09.220
-  addressed over time.

01:06:09.220 --> 01:06:18.120
-  And so, you know, our understanding and our expectations that they will address those issues, and

01:06:18.120 --> 01:06:26.380
-  as such, the, you know, the funds shouldn't have to be used for the purposes to which they are

01:06:26.380 --> 01:06:29.220
-  already pledged to to address.

01:06:29.220 --> 01:06:33.220
-  Okay, thank you. Are there other first round questions.

01:06:33.220 --> 01:06:38.590
-  Okay, I'm going to go ahead and take one Councilmember sorry before we go to you for second round,

01:06:38.590 --> 01:06:42.220
-  and it actually has to do with the same section to so thank you.

01:06:42.220 --> 01:06:47.890
-  Attorney rice for mentioning that that this fund will not go to residents who might have had

01:06:47.890 --> 01:06:54.080
-  personal property damage but if there are residents who did have personal property damage and they

01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:57.220
-  have not been able to get any kind of response.

01:06:57.220 --> 01:07:05.100
-  Thus far, what should they do. I might look to Andrew for this, this is probably his Bailey wick

01:07:05.100 --> 01:07:07.220
-  however I know that his office is keeping a list of all the issues.

01:07:07.220 --> 01:07:10.220
-  And so I don't know if you want to address that.

01:07:10.220 --> 01:07:14.870
-  Thank you if you could introduce yourself for the record to that'd be great sure Andrew Seabor city

01:07:14.870 --> 01:07:17.220
-  engineer with the engineering department.

01:07:17.220 --> 01:07:21.220
-  If a resident has experienced issues as a result of this project.

01:07:21.220 --> 01:07:25.220
-  They have a number of options that they can do.

01:07:25.220 --> 01:07:30.610
-  Ultimately, the best tool I would encourage people to use is the report and to submit something

01:07:30.610 --> 01:07:34.220
-  through the report system that will flag things for staff.

01:07:34.220 --> 01:07:40.360
-  They can also send an email or call the engineering department with an inquiry we get a lot of

01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:42.220
-  calls on this project.

01:07:42.220 --> 01:07:50.300
-  Ultimately, what we will do on our end is put them in contact with the owners of this project on

01:07:50.300 --> 01:07:56.310
-  street fiber, and we're just more of a facilitator. In this case, and generally the street fiber

01:07:56.310 --> 01:07:59.050
-  and their partners have been responsive, especially at least in our interactions with them and

01:07:59.050 --> 01:08:01.220
-  making that connection happen.

01:08:01.220 --> 01:08:04.220
-  Great. Thank you.

01:08:04.220 --> 01:08:07.220
-  Council members are second round.

01:08:07.220 --> 01:08:12.500
-  That would be a question for for all of us. I don't know, but thinking in a broader sense about

01:08:12.500 --> 01:08:18.320
-  what we've learned through this process are we making any adjustments to our procurement practices,

01:08:18.320 --> 01:08:23.220
-  particularly in large sort of infrastructure projects.

01:08:23.220 --> 01:08:29.090
-  That is also an Android probably a rich question I could say from a legal perspective, it's very

01:08:29.090 --> 01:08:35.080
-  difficult when you're dealing with a main person and then they have a subcontractor and then there

01:08:35.080 --> 01:08:37.220
-  are subs underneath there.

01:08:37.220 --> 01:08:44.570
-  So, and again, not to get too too much into the weeds but you know there's legal activity going on

01:08:44.570 --> 01:08:52.360
-  in Miami Dade Florida related to a EG true line and the, and they have an assignment, and it's, it's,

01:08:52.360 --> 01:08:59.640
-  you know it's listed I was looking at one of the pleadings it was in the complex litigation sort of

01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:00.220
-  division

01:09:00.220 --> 01:09:07.510
-  of, of this court and so it's very hard when you're dealing with a, you know, a company and again

01:09:07.510 --> 01:09:14.220
-  Meridians counsel that I deal with is in New York he's been great he's very responsive.

01:09:14.220 --> 01:09:21.440
-  But there are moving pieces related to this kind of big project in Delaware companies litigation

01:09:21.440 --> 01:09:23.220
-  going on in Florida.

01:09:23.220 --> 01:09:29.220
-  It's very hard to know who your partners are doing business with.

01:09:29.220 --> 01:09:33.210
-  And when we write these contracts and we allow them the freedom that they need to pick the

01:09:33.210 --> 01:09:36.220
-  contractors there are going to be some inherent risks with it.

01:09:36.220 --> 01:09:41.560
-  Having said that the bond is always we always do require bond and again, it's been helpful in this

01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:43.220
-  regard and we got it back.

01:09:43.220 --> 01:09:50.730
-  I don't know whether Rick who has dealt since 20 probably before 21 has dealt with Meridians he

01:09:50.730 --> 01:09:56.220
-  might have something to say, I don't know what Andrew thinks about it.

01:09:56.220 --> 01:10:01.220
-  Hi there scan Andrew seabor city engineering.

01:10:01.220 --> 01:10:04.650
-  I think there's a few things I want to highlight and then I also want to make sure I'm answering

01:10:04.650 --> 01:10:08.280
-  your question but this this project I think from from an engineering department perspective has

01:10:08.280 --> 01:10:09.220
-  received a lot of.

01:10:09.220 --> 01:10:14.320
-  There's a lot of confusion like this is a city wide fiber projects the word cities in there, the

01:10:14.320 --> 01:10:18.220
-  city is supportive of this project the city has a master agreement.

01:10:18.220 --> 01:10:26.380
-  There's a lot of things, but when it comes to the actual construction and the work happening. Think

01:10:26.380 --> 01:10:28.800
-  of it like any other utility. Think of it like a Duke project a veteran project a Smithville

01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:29.220
-  project.

01:10:29.220 --> 01:10:33.220
-  We are not involved in the selection of the contractors.

01:10:33.220 --> 01:10:38.900
-  If Smithville wants to fire higher contract X and then contract excerpt we can't say yes or no to

01:10:38.900 --> 01:10:44.510
-  them that is their choice. It is our role to permit their work and make sure that what they're

01:10:44.510 --> 01:10:48.220
-  doing follows all the city's conditions so.

01:10:48.220 --> 01:10:51.220
-  So just a little clarifying there.

01:10:51.220 --> 01:10:56.600
-  But that being said on the permitting side there are some things that we are that we're going to be

01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:59.220
-  changing how it has happened in the past.

01:10:59.220 --> 01:11:05.220
-  One is where we're expecting higher bonds just to further protect the city.

01:11:05.220 --> 01:11:10.060
-  We're also going to be limiting the number of active permit areas at any given time so we want this

01:11:10.060 --> 01:11:14.810
-  project to happen we want it to happen quickly but we also want to make sure things get closed up

01:11:14.810 --> 01:11:19.220
-  before we start the next one so finding that right balance.

01:11:19.220 --> 01:11:28.220
-  We might be mixing missing a couple others but welcome director needs to add to it.

01:11:28.220 --> 01:11:34.420
-  Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Andrew. There were a couple of other things that we discussed and I believe

01:11:34.420 --> 01:11:40.220
-  we shared some of this already in response to some of the budget questions that came in.

01:11:40.220 --> 01:11:47.420
-  But another thing that we had talked about and this is under consideration by Andrew and his team

01:11:47.420 --> 01:11:51.220
-  in terms of permitting is having m street fiber.

01:11:51.220 --> 01:11:57.690
-  The, you know, a party to the permits that are filed by it's some kind of contractors, and then

01:11:57.690 --> 01:12:04.260
-  there's been some discussions about increasing, increasing the size of the, you know, the bond

01:12:04.260 --> 01:12:12.220
-  requirement for the work that's to be done so it's, you know, something in excess of the million.

01:12:12.220 --> 01:12:18.650
-  Which is has been the standard for these, these types of projects in the past. So there's a number

01:12:18.650 --> 01:12:24.510
-  of tools that that Andrew and his team and we all are exploring so that we have greater

01:12:24.510 --> 01:12:31.220
-  accountability and if things go wrong or greater ability to recover.

01:12:31.220 --> 01:12:35.220
-  Thank you. Are there other questions.

01:12:35.220 --> 01:12:40.030
-  Okay, yeah, I have one last one to actually, and it's kind of related to what I asked before in

01:12:40.030 --> 01:12:45.220
-  terms of residents and it might sound kind of weird and I'm not sure quite who it's a question for.

01:12:45.220 --> 01:12:50.790
-  But it's that idea of like, how do we know if something that we're seeing is actually a problem

01:12:50.790 --> 01:12:56.390
-  that a resident should report or we should report and the example that I'll give is that in my

01:12:56.390 --> 01:12:58.220
-  particular neighborhood.

01:12:58.220 --> 01:13:03.200
-  They had to go through like twice and actually install things so we have like little round circles

01:13:03.200 --> 01:13:08.040
-  in our neighborhood and then we have the big boxes, and a whole bunch of the little round circles

01:13:08.040 --> 01:13:10.220
-  are gone so then there's just a hole.

01:13:10.220 --> 01:13:14.840
-  And I don't really know what's in the hole but you know like water could get in the hole and it's

01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:19.650
-  kind of all over the place because they installed these in our ditches and our ditches flood all

01:13:19.650 --> 01:13:20.220
-  the time.

01:13:20.220 --> 01:13:25.240
-  Like, is that like what rises to the level of a problem and how do we know that because we don't I

01:13:25.240 --> 01:13:30.260
-  don't want like you getting called for like all kinds of things but I also don't want there to be

01:13:30.260 --> 01:13:33.220
-  serious things that are actually problems.

01:13:33.220 --> 01:13:37.920
-  I'm, my answer would be if in doubt have them completed you report, and it'll get to the right

01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:42.580
-  department and then they can go out and determine if it's related to this and if it needs to go on

01:13:42.580 --> 01:13:43.220
-  the list.

01:13:43.220 --> 01:13:50.110
-  I would rather have over reporting at this point, then under reporting, especially since we have a

01:13:50.110 --> 01:13:53.220
-  viable contractor out there doing work.

01:13:53.220 --> 01:13:55.220
-  Do you have anything to add.

01:13:55.220 --> 01:13:59.220
-  I think I would just echo what Margie just reported.

01:13:59.220 --> 01:14:03.710
-  Don't hesitate I'd rather have it, it's a little extra work for us, but hopefully it's already on

01:14:03.710 --> 01:14:08.350
-  our list and if it's not, we're literally walking every street they're working to make sure things

01:14:08.350 --> 01:14:09.220
-  are repaired.

01:14:09.220 --> 01:14:14.220
-  So it's a very time intensive effort but any help like that that does does help us.

01:14:14.220 --> 01:14:17.220
-  Okay, great. Thank you.

01:14:17.220 --> 01:14:23.650
-  Councilmember sorry last one very last question and this sort of follow up to something you were

01:14:23.650 --> 01:14:29.380
-  saying, as relates to the sort of information that has existed in the public realm about this

01:14:29.380 --> 01:14:30.220
-  project.

01:14:30.220 --> 01:14:37.030
-  We've adopted as one of our, you know, outside of constructing joy we've also said that that

01:14:37.030 --> 01:14:44.130
-  transparency was something that we care about so how what are we doing, sort of moving forward to

01:14:44.130 --> 01:14:45.220
-  inform.

01:14:45.220 --> 01:14:50.060
-  Because I've seen for example they're started to go back I've like seen the crews now working on

01:14:50.060 --> 01:14:54.970
-  certain places, but people often ask me about like what's the status of this and so is there some

01:14:54.970 --> 01:14:59.220
-  place some some centralized place that people can go to get updated information

01:14:59.220 --> 01:15:03.570
-  on where we're at on this project where you know where things are sort of expected to go forward

01:15:03.570 --> 01:15:06.220
-  what our benchmarks those those type of questions.

01:15:06.220 --> 01:15:11.220
-  Yeah, I'll, I'll punt to director he's probably is the best answer. My team's working with us.

01:15:11.220 --> 01:15:14.220
-  Thank you.

01:15:14.220 --> 01:15:21.220
-  Thanks. So, one place to go is

01:15:21.220 --> 01:15:31.840
-  the primary ISP who is gigabit now they have information about the progress of network or progress

01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:35.220
-  of the availability of their services.

01:15:35.220 --> 01:15:44.440
-  Also in street in street fiber, and then we have information on our website on the slash fiber page

01:15:44.440 --> 01:15:53.210
-  that's a little bit out of date that we anticipate updating that soon in the next few weeks when we

01:15:53.210 --> 01:15:55.220
-  learn more about

01:15:55.220 --> 01:16:03.960
-  the restart of the construction phase, which we're which we're looking forward forward to in the

01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:06.220
-  coming coming weeks.

01:16:06.220 --> 01:16:15.930
-  To your earlier point, Councilor Morris sorry about activity that's visible now, the activity that

01:16:15.930 --> 01:16:24.880
-  is going on now is your restoration of in completed, you know, and I'd say restoration and and

01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:32.220
-  fixes of construction work that that needs to get back to 100% from

01:16:32.220 --> 01:16:39.430
-  where he left it. There is not currently new construction happening, although it's possible that

01:16:39.430 --> 01:16:46.300
-  some amount of that will begin as it goes through the permitting process in the coming weeks, but

01:16:46.300 --> 01:16:51.220
-  that will also be a, you know, an open and public process.

01:16:51.220 --> 01:16:59.630
-  And I'm fairly certain that the city, you know, will also be making information available when when

01:16:59.630 --> 01:17:05.220
-  the, the construction phases is restarted in earnest.

01:17:05.220 --> 01:17:11.220
-  So, it should not be a surprise to anybody when that happens.

01:17:11.220 --> 01:17:22.220
-  Thank you. Great. Thank you. Let's go ahead and move to public comments now on ordinance 2025 34.

01:17:22.220 --> 01:17:26.140
-  So if there are any members of the public who would like to comment about this ordinance if you're

01:17:26.140 --> 01:17:28.220
-  in chambers you can make your way to the podium if

01:17:28.220 --> 01:17:31.220
-  you're online you can go ahead and raise your hand.

01:17:31.220 --> 01:17:36.290
-  It sounds like maybe we have somebody online. We do. Wonderful. When you're unmuted you can go

01:17:36.290 --> 01:17:39.740
-  ahead and start you'll have up to three minutes and please make sure to introduce yourself for the

01:17:39.740 --> 01:17:40.220
-  record.

01:17:40.220 --> 01:17:44.220
-  Yes, Kevin Keough.

01:17:44.220 --> 01:17:50.270
-  I'm just reading up on this with open source information and it seems like there was $8 million

01:17:50.270 --> 01:17:57.230
-  fine, which you're not going to collect. Obviously, they went bankrupt. My question basically is,

01:17:57.230 --> 01:18:05.220
-  is there an estimate about what is the exposure to the city for all these damages

01:18:05.220 --> 01:18:14.410
-  and things that this subcontractor failed to do? And then, I just want to make sure we get some

01:18:14.410 --> 01:18:20.220
-  type of assurance, but the main contractor will have to pay for all that.

01:18:20.220 --> 01:18:27.120
-  So I'm just unclear about who's really liable. Is the main contractor who had the subcontractor, is

01:18:27.120 --> 01:18:33.700
-  he ultimately liable for all the damages caused by the subcontractor? And also, would he be open,

01:18:33.700 --> 01:18:41.220
-  this main subcontractor, to the fines that were assessed against their subcontractor?

01:18:41.220 --> 01:18:48.220
-  So I was confused by that, and it'd be nice to have some clarification, but I'll just, that's it.

01:18:48.220 --> 01:18:50.220
-  Thank you so much.

01:18:50.220 --> 01:18:54.220
-  Thank you. Do we have any other comments online?

01:18:54.220 --> 01:19:13.220
-  No. Okay, thank you. I don't see anybody moving forward in chambers. So we'll move back to Council

01:19:13.220 --> 01:19:13.220
-  for further questions or final comments on Ordinance 2025-34.

01:19:13.220 --> 01:19:17.220
-  Councilmember Piedmont-Smith.

01:19:17.220 --> 01:19:21.220
-  It's a follow up question, if I may.

01:19:21.220 --> 01:19:30.220
-  So the million dollars will not be used to actually fix the mistakes, so what will it be used for?

01:19:30.220 --> 01:19:36.220
-  Will it compensate for all the staff time?

01:19:36.220 --> 01:19:40.220
-  And I may ask Jessica to come up here in a minute.

01:19:40.220 --> 01:19:47.650
-  You know, when, as the former, as the public comment was just made, there could have been assessed

01:19:47.650 --> 01:19:51.220
-  up to, you know, over $7 million in fine.

01:19:51.220 --> 01:19:57.620
-  That money could go into the fund where we just collect fine money and be used sort of generally to

01:19:57.620 --> 01:19:59.220
-  reimburse the city.

01:19:59.220 --> 01:20:06.870
-  We have spent a lot of staff, I don't think it's going to go to the ITS department and to the legal

01:20:06.870 --> 01:20:11.220
-  department to sort of reimburse them for staff time.

01:20:11.220 --> 01:20:16.220
-  But, and I do want to say though, in response, I think the problems will be fixed.

01:20:16.220 --> 01:20:21.140
-  I mean, I think the problems in the right of way are going to be fixed by the current contractor,

01:20:21.140 --> 01:20:22.220
-  subcontractor.

01:20:22.220 --> 01:20:28.220
-  So those will be fixed, and this money hopefully will not have to be used for that.

01:20:28.220 --> 01:20:36.220
-  What creative uses or ideas come out if we don't have to use it for right of way.

01:20:36.220 --> 01:20:40.220
-  I'm going to leave that to the departments I've been saying all along.

01:20:40.220 --> 01:20:46.380
-  We've got to get farther along we got to see where we land, I fully expect meridian to make the

01:20:46.380 --> 01:20:52.380
-  city whole, we will end up where we need to be at the end of this with the fiber installed and

01:20:52.380 --> 01:20:53.220
-  working.

01:20:53.220 --> 01:20:58.610
-  But I think that we, again it's too early to say right now how this million dollars going to be

01:20:58.610 --> 01:21:04.220
-  used. I think we wait get the project done and see where we stand.

01:21:04.220 --> 01:21:07.220
-  I don't know if Jessica do you have anything to add to that.

01:21:07.220 --> 01:21:12.220
-  Okay, she's she agrees. Hopefully that answers it. Thank you.

01:21:12.220 --> 01:21:17.510
-  I'm really sorry but I don't think that answered the question. So we don't know what the money will

01:21:17.510 --> 01:21:20.220
-  be used for is that yeah no it's too early to tell.

01:21:20.220 --> 01:21:27.220
-  Yeah, it's it's yeah it's way too early to tell exactly how we're going to use this million dollars.

01:21:27.220 --> 01:21:32.280
-  And that's really your question right is how's the money. I don't know at this point we will come

01:21:32.280 --> 01:21:37.620
-  back at some later point and ask for appropriations, but I'd be completely making something up if I

01:21:37.620 --> 01:21:41.220
-  were to give you something definite now.

01:21:41.220 --> 01:21:43.220
-  Okay, thank you.

01:21:43.220 --> 01:21:46.220
-  Thank you for not making something up.

01:21:46.220 --> 01:21:48.060
-  Thank you, any other comments

01:21:48.060 --> 01:21:50.060
-  or last questions from council members?

01:21:50.060 --> 01:21:52.420
-  Great, then I think that we're ready

01:21:52.420 --> 01:21:55.200
-  to call the roll on ordinance 2025-34.

01:21:55.200 --> 01:22:02.140
-  This member is sorry?

01:22:02.140 --> 01:22:02.980
-  Yes.

01:22:02.980 --> 01:22:05.940
-  Flaherty?

01:22:05.940 --> 01:22:06.880
-  Yes.

01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:07.720
-  Ruff?

01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:08.560
-  Yes.

01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:09.660
-  Rallo?

01:22:09.660 --> 01:22:10.620
-  Yes.

01:22:10.620 --> 01:22:11.980
-  Piedmont-Smith?

01:22:11.980 --> 01:22:12.940
-  Yes.

01:22:12.940 --> 01:22:13.780
-  Stosberg?

01:22:13.780 --> 01:22:14.600
-  Yes.

01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:15.440
-  Daly?

01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:16.280
-  Yes.

01:22:16.280 --> 01:22:17.120
-  Zulek?

01:22:17.120 --> 01:22:17.940
-  Yes.

01:22:17.940 --> 01:22:18.780
-  Rosenberger?

01:22:18.780 --> 01:22:19.620
-  Yes.

01:22:19.620 --> 01:22:20.740
-  Thank you.

01:22:20.740 --> 01:22:22.640
-  Thank you, and that passes unanimously.

01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:24.500
-  On to the next.

01:22:24.500 --> 01:22:29.300
-  I move that resolution 2025-16 be introduced

01:22:29.300 --> 01:22:32.440
-  and read by the clerk by title and synopsis only.

01:22:32.440 --> 01:22:33.280
-  Second.

01:22:33.280 --> 01:22:34.940
-  It's been moved and seconded

01:22:34.940 --> 01:22:38.140
-  to introduce ordinance or resolution 2025-16.

01:22:38.140 --> 01:22:40.720
-  Will the clerk please call the roll on that motion?

01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:42.220
-  Council member Flaherty?

01:22:42.220 --> 01:22:43.060
-  Yes.

01:22:43.060 --> 01:22:43.880
-  Ruff?

01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:44.720
-  Yes.

01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:45.560
-  Yes.

01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:47.900
-  Piedmont-Smith?

01:22:47.900 --> 01:22:48.740
-  Yes.

01:22:48.740 --> 01:22:49.580
-  Sosberg?

01:22:49.580 --> 01:22:51.080
-  Yes.

01:22:51.080 --> 01:22:51.900
-  Daly?

01:22:51.900 --> 01:22:52.740
-  Yes.

01:22:52.740 --> 01:22:53.580
-  Zulek?

01:22:53.580 --> 01:22:54.420
-  Yes.

01:22:54.420 --> 01:22:55.260
-  Rosenberger?

01:22:55.260 --> 01:22:56.100
-  Yes.

01:22:56.100 --> 01:22:56.920
-  Osari?

01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:57.760
-  Yes.

01:22:57.760 --> 01:22:59.380
-  Thank you.

01:22:59.380 --> 01:23:02.460
-  Thank you, will the clerk please read?

01:23:02.460 --> 01:23:04.800
-  (murmuring)

01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:24.340
-  Okay, resolution 2025-16 requesting the food

01:23:24.340 --> 01:23:27.840
-  and beverage tax advisory commission to make a recommendation

01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:31.120
-  for expenditure of food and beverage tax revenues.

01:23:31.120 --> 01:23:32.720
-  The synopsis is as follows.

01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:35.220
-  This resolution is a request from the common council

01:23:35.220 --> 01:23:38.080
-  for the food and beverage tax advisory commission

01:23:38.080 --> 01:23:41.480
-  to recommend expenditures of food and beverage tax revenue

01:23:41.480 --> 01:23:45.460
-  toward a 2026 budget for the capital improvement board.

01:23:45.460 --> 01:23:49.120
-  Thank you.

01:23:49.120 --> 01:23:53.040
-  I move resolution 2025-16 be adopted.

01:23:53.040 --> 01:23:54.200
-  Second.

01:23:54.200 --> 01:23:57.600
-  Wonderful, looks like somebody's already moved

01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:58.680
-  to the podium to present.

01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:01.820
-  Are we gonna do a switcheroo again, or, I'm just kidding.

01:24:01.820 --> 01:24:05.560
-  Please introduce yourself for the record.

01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:07.760
-  Thank you very much, council.

01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:08.760
-  I'm Jeff McKim.

01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:11.920
-  I'm the treasurer for the capital improvement board.

01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:14.360
-  Oh, I have with me John Wyckart,

01:24:14.360 --> 01:24:16.800
-  the president of the capital improvement board,

01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:19.120
-  and Jeff Underwood, our comptroller.

01:24:19.120 --> 01:24:22.740
-  So you will remember that the capital improvement board

01:24:22.740 --> 01:24:26.160
-  presented our 2026 budget request to you a few weeks ago

01:24:26.160 --> 01:24:28.700
-  during your budget work sessions.

01:24:28.700 --> 01:24:30.800
-  Because the CIB budget is funded

01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:32.520
-  by the food and beverage tax,

01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:34.680
-  statute requires an additional procedure

01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:36.720
-  specific to that fund source.

01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:39.000
-  Statute requires the common council

01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:40.960
-  as legislative body of the city

01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:43.800
-  to request the advisory commission's recommendations

01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:45.400
-  concerning the expenditure

01:24:45.400 --> 01:24:47.760
-  of any food and beverage tax funds.

01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:49.000
-  The resolution in front of you

01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:51.800
-  would make such a request for a recommendation

01:24:51.800 --> 01:24:54.560
-  from the food and beverage tax advisory commission,

01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:56.720
-  otherwise known as FABTAC.

01:24:56.720 --> 01:24:59.600
-  After FABTAC meets and makes a recommendation,

01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:02.400
-  approval of the CIB's 2026 budget

01:25:02.400 --> 01:25:03.700
-  will come back to council

01:25:03.700 --> 01:25:07.220
-  in the 2026 Civil City Budget Appropriations Ordinance,

01:25:07.220 --> 01:25:09.580
-  which is one of the three appropriations ordinances

01:25:09.580 --> 01:25:10.940
-  the council will consider

01:25:10.940 --> 01:25:13.160
-  during your budget adoption process.

01:25:13.160 --> 01:25:14.400
-  So thank you very much,

01:25:14.400 --> 01:25:17.200
-  and we are here to answer any questions you might have.

01:25:17.200 --> 01:25:20.100
-  Great, thank you.

01:25:20.100 --> 01:25:21.900
-  Do council members have any questions?

01:25:22.300 --> 01:25:25.180
-  (gavel bangs)

01:25:25.180 --> 01:25:26.700
-  Great, seeing none.

01:25:26.700 --> 01:25:30.020
-  We'll go ahead and go to public comment.

01:25:30.020 --> 01:25:31.740
-  If there are any members of the public

01:25:31.740 --> 01:25:36.740
-  who would like to comment on resolution 2025-16.

01:25:36.740 --> 01:25:39.100
-  If you're in chambers, you can make your way to the podium.

01:25:39.100 --> 01:25:41.320
-  If you're online, you can go ahead and raise your hand

01:25:41.320 --> 01:25:42.800
-  using the reactions tab.

01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:46.840
-  I don't see anybody moving in chambers.

01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:49.140
-  Is there anybody who's raised their hand online?

01:25:51.460 --> 01:25:53.260
-  Okay then, coming back to council,

01:25:53.260 --> 01:25:57.500
-  are there any comments or questions

01:25:57.500 --> 01:26:00.240
-  that have come up since I last asked?

01:26:00.240 --> 01:26:11.680
-  Seeing none, will the clerk please call the roll

01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:13.780
-  on resolution 2025-16?

01:26:13.780 --> 01:26:21.020
-  Will you give me just a moment council member Stasberg?

01:26:21.020 --> 01:26:22.020
-  Okay. - Thank you.

01:26:22.020 --> 01:26:39.020
-  You know what?

01:26:39.020 --> 01:26:41.260
-  I'm going to have to do this a little bit on the fly,

01:26:41.260 --> 01:26:43.460
-  so forgive me if I get the order incorrect,

01:26:43.460 --> 01:26:46.380
-  but I believe we'll start with council member Ruff.

01:26:46.380 --> 01:26:48.020
-  Yes.

01:26:48.020 --> 01:26:48.980
-  Piedmont-Smith?

01:26:48.980 --> 01:26:50.780
-  Yes.

01:26:51.340 --> 01:26:53.180
-  Stasberg? - Yes.

01:26:53.180 --> 01:26:55.380
-  Daly? - Yes.

01:26:55.380 --> 01:26:56.720
-  Zulek? - Yes.

01:26:56.720 --> 01:26:58.820
-  Rosenberger?

01:26:58.820 --> 01:27:04.300
-  No.

01:27:04.300 --> 01:27:07.340
-  Asari? - Yes.

01:27:07.340 --> 01:27:09.620
-  Mflaherty? - Yes.

01:27:09.620 --> 01:27:10.940
-  Thank you.

01:27:10.940 --> 01:27:12.260
-  Rallo?

01:27:12.260 --> 01:27:15.060
-  Oh, I'm so sorry council member Rallo.

01:27:15.060 --> 01:27:16.140
-  Yes.

01:27:16.140 --> 01:27:17.020
-  Thank you.

01:27:17.020 --> 01:27:20.180
-  Thank you, that passes eight one.

01:27:21.180 --> 01:27:24.660
-  And moving on to the next.

01:27:24.660 --> 01:27:40.620
-  I move that resolution 2025-15 be introduced

01:27:40.620 --> 01:27:43.420
-  and read by the clerk by title and synopsis only.

01:27:43.420 --> 01:27:44.660
-  Second.

01:27:44.660 --> 01:27:47.300
-  It's been moved and seconded

01:27:47.300 --> 01:27:49.420
-  to introduce resolution 2025-15.

01:27:49.420 --> 01:27:52.020
-  And will the clerk please call the roll on that motion.

01:27:52.020 --> 01:28:00.620
-  Council member Ruff?

01:28:00.620 --> 01:28:01.460
-  Yes.

01:28:01.460 --> 01:28:02.900
-  Rallo?

01:28:02.900 --> 01:28:03.740
-  Yes.

01:28:03.740 --> 01:28:05.140
-  Piedmont-Smith?

01:28:05.140 --> 01:28:05.960
-  Yes.

01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:06.800
-  Stasberg?

01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:07.620
-  Yes.

01:28:07.620 --> 01:28:08.460
-  Daly?

01:28:08.460 --> 01:28:09.460
-  Yes.

01:28:09.460 --> 01:28:10.300
-  Zulek?

01:28:10.300 --> 01:28:11.120
-  Yes.

01:28:11.120 --> 01:28:11.960
-  Rosenberger?

01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:12.900
-  Yes.

01:28:12.900 --> 01:28:13.820
-  Asari?

01:28:13.820 --> 01:28:15.300
-  Yes.

01:28:15.300 --> 01:28:16.120
-  Mflaherty?

01:28:16.120 --> 01:28:17.220
-  Yes.

01:28:17.220 --> 01:28:18.060
-  And Ruff?

01:28:19.060 --> 01:28:20.300
-  Or did I already call you?

01:28:20.300 --> 01:28:22.260
-  Yeah.

01:28:22.260 --> 01:28:23.300
-  I'm just gonna keep on calling

01:28:23.300 --> 01:28:25.740
-  until I can get this working again.

01:28:25.740 --> 01:28:27.300
-  Thank you so much.

01:28:27.300 --> 01:28:28.580
-  Are you able to read?

01:28:28.580 --> 01:28:29.480
-  Is that working?

01:28:29.480 --> 01:28:31.860
-  Yeah, we'll figure that part out.

01:28:31.860 --> 01:28:32.860
-  Okay, thank you.

01:28:32.860 --> 01:28:38.060
-  Resolution 2025-15 to establish expectations

01:28:38.060 --> 01:28:40.620
-  and procedures for council member liaison,

01:28:40.620 --> 01:28:43.140
-  yeah, liaisons to boards and commissions.

01:28:43.140 --> 01:28:44.660
-  The synopsis is as follows.

01:28:44.660 --> 01:28:47.460
-  This resolution sponsored by council member Zulek

01:28:47.460 --> 01:28:49.980
-  establishes expectations and processes

01:28:49.980 --> 01:28:51.780
-  for council members serving as liaisons

01:28:51.780 --> 01:28:53.480
-  to city boards and commissions.

01:28:53.480 --> 01:28:56.300
-  Thank you.

01:28:56.300 --> 01:29:03.180
-  I move that resolution 2025-15 be adopted.

01:29:03.180 --> 01:29:04.620
-  Second.

01:29:04.620 --> 01:29:05.540
-  Thank you.

01:29:05.540 --> 01:29:06.740
-  Council member Zulek.

01:29:06.740 --> 01:29:08.100
-  Hello everyone.

01:29:08.100 --> 01:29:13.100
-  This is actually just a formalization into code

01:29:13.100 --> 01:29:16.740
-  of something that we already passed as a full council

01:29:16.740 --> 01:29:20.060
-  in terms of expectations for liaisons

01:29:20.060 --> 01:29:22.420
-  to different boards and commissions.

01:29:22.420 --> 01:29:27.420
-  In short, the chair of the interview committees

01:29:27.420 --> 01:29:32.260
-  will appoint each of their interview committee members

01:29:32.260 --> 01:29:36.140
-  to be a liaison to two to three boards and commissions

01:29:36.140 --> 01:29:39.560
-  so that we can keep more of an eye on what they're doing

01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:43.020
-  and so that their work can be celebrated

01:29:43.020 --> 01:29:45.980
-  and spoken about at council meetings.

01:29:45.980 --> 01:29:50.980
-  So it's in line with a proposal that we've already passed

01:29:50.980 --> 01:29:52.980
-  and I'm happy to answer any questions

01:29:52.980 --> 01:29:55.440
-  but nothing has changed since then.

01:29:55.440 --> 01:29:58.160
-  Thank you for your consideration.

01:29:58.160 --> 01:30:02.020
-  Thank you.

01:30:02.020 --> 01:30:06.580
-  Are there questions from council members about this?

01:30:06.580 --> 01:30:09.500
-  And just for clarity, we didn't actually pass it

01:30:09.500 --> 01:30:14.500
-  before we kind of agreed to the intent and concept, yeah.

01:30:15.320 --> 01:30:18.440
-  Council member, sorry, did I see your hand?

01:30:18.440 --> 01:30:23.180
-  Okay, so question for all of us, I guess,

01:30:23.180 --> 01:30:27.480
-  or for what happens if, so within the committee,

01:30:27.480 --> 01:30:32.100
-  so I'm on a committee with council member Stossberg,

01:30:32.100 --> 01:30:36.140
-  council member Rosenberger, what happens if I go,

01:30:36.140 --> 01:30:38.020
-  nah, I don't wanna be on that committee.

01:30:38.020 --> 01:30:41.420
-  No, like what, or vice versa, you know, if,

01:30:41.420 --> 01:30:43.500
-  the question is, how do we ensure

01:30:43.500 --> 01:30:46.280
-  that people actually get assigned, and how do we,

01:30:46.280 --> 01:30:49.580
-  because, I mean, and what's actually our mechanism here

01:30:49.580 --> 01:30:52.700
-  for following up on such a thing, right?

01:30:52.700 --> 01:30:57.700
-  So imagine, let's put it here, that if council member

01:30:57.700 --> 01:31:00.740
-  Stossberg and council member Rosenberger decide

01:31:00.740 --> 01:31:03.660
-  that I should be the representative 'cause we do the committee

01:31:03.660 --> 01:31:05.740
-  that hires for black males as an example,

01:31:05.740 --> 01:31:08.760
-  and I go, I don't wanna do that, what happens?

01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:12.940
-  I would imagine it's a pretty similar process

01:31:12.940 --> 01:31:15.100
-  for appointments to boards and commissions

01:31:15.100 --> 01:31:18.160
-  that we do for the entire council,

01:31:18.160 --> 01:31:20.300
-  where the council president works with

01:31:20.300 --> 01:31:22.180
-  all of the different council members

01:31:22.180 --> 01:31:25.380
-  to identify the areas of interest.

01:31:25.380 --> 01:31:29.100
-  It's not a huge commitment, it's primarily

01:31:29.100 --> 01:31:32.500
-  just being the point person for the different staff liaisons

01:31:32.500 --> 01:31:35.800
-  and attending one meeting per calendar year.

01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:39.300
-  How does that three bit, yeah?

01:31:39.300 --> 01:31:40.900
-  'Cause there's three in the--

01:31:40.900 --> 01:31:43.900
-  Right, per board or commission.

01:31:43.900 --> 01:31:48.180
-  So it's just one meeting for each liaison assignment.

01:31:48.180 --> 01:31:53.380
-  The three times is checking in with them

01:31:53.380 --> 01:31:55.080
-  at least three times a year.

01:31:55.080 --> 01:31:57.760
-  But then like, I'm just curious if we need

01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:00.560
-  some type of mechanism within this

01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:04.080
-  to actually make sure that something happens, right?

01:32:04.080 --> 01:32:07.300
-  Because, and then similarly we have a report,

01:32:07.300 --> 01:32:09.480
-  is that report supposed to be a written report?

01:32:09.480 --> 01:32:11.820
-  Is it an oral report during report time?

01:32:11.820 --> 01:32:16.180
-  Like, what's our, otherwise, like it's,

01:32:16.180 --> 01:32:17.220
-  we all get the intention, right?

01:32:17.220 --> 01:32:21.100
-  I mean, we voted for the intention of this,

01:32:21.100 --> 01:32:23.100
-  but how do we achieve the outcome

01:32:23.100 --> 01:32:25.140
-  that we're looking for is the question.

01:32:25.140 --> 01:32:27.380
-  And whether we have that mechanism in the current,

01:32:27.380 --> 01:32:29.980
-  or in the current resolution, or whether we need it.

01:32:29.980 --> 01:32:31.420
-  I mean, we could just agree ourselves

01:32:31.420 --> 01:32:33.220
-  that this is how we wanna do it, but.

01:32:35.020 --> 01:32:40.020
-  I think over-regulating is what gets us into trouble here.

01:32:40.020 --> 01:32:44.380
-  So I was imagining that each council member

01:32:44.380 --> 01:32:47.540
-  would kind of come up with their own strategy

01:32:47.540 --> 01:32:50.140
-  of being a liaison to the boards and commissions

01:32:50.140 --> 01:32:52.680
-  if they wanna give an oral report.

01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:56.320
-  They can, verbal, written.

01:33:02.620 --> 01:33:07.020
-  Are there other questions, or perhaps comments,

01:33:07.020 --> 01:33:09.500
-  or responses to council member Asari's question?

01:33:09.500 --> 01:33:10.940
-  Because in a lot of ways,

01:33:10.940 --> 01:33:13.880
-  this whole resolution is about all of us.

01:33:13.880 --> 01:33:19.940
-  I'll follow up, 'cause I don't see any hands.

01:33:19.940 --> 01:33:21.660
-  That I had kind of a similar question

01:33:21.660 --> 01:33:23.420
-  of what happens if a council member

01:33:23.420 --> 01:33:25.280
-  doesn't fulfill these responsibilities?

01:33:25.280 --> 01:33:26.260
-  What happens if they don't check in

01:33:26.260 --> 01:33:27.100
-  at least three times a year?

01:33:27.100 --> 01:33:28.820
-  What happens if they don't go to a meeting a year?

01:33:28.820 --> 01:33:33.820
-  Like, what is, how much public shaming do we get to do?

01:33:33.820 --> 01:33:39.980
-  I'm kidding about the public shaming, but like,

01:33:39.980 --> 01:33:41.980
-  and I don't think that the sponsor of this

01:33:41.980 --> 01:33:43.980
-  necessarily has to answer all of these questions,

01:33:43.980 --> 01:33:45.700
-  'cause it really is, like, in a lot of ways,

01:33:45.700 --> 01:33:47.820
-  our job is all about personal accountability, but.

01:33:47.820 --> 01:33:49.220
-  Right, yeah.

01:33:49.220 --> 01:33:50.060
-  May I?

01:33:50.060 --> 01:33:50.900
-  Sure. - Council member Daly.

01:33:50.900 --> 01:33:51.960
-  I think it would just be very similar

01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:54.760
-  to our regular committee assignments.

01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:57.780
-  You know, we'll know if somebody's not keeping up,

01:33:57.780 --> 01:33:59.140
-  and what happens then?

01:33:59.140 --> 01:34:01.400
-  I don't know the answer to that, but.

01:34:01.400 --> 01:34:05.100
-  But some people do.

01:34:05.100 --> 01:34:08.340
-  (laughing)

01:34:08.340 --> 01:34:13.300
-  No, but I just see this as a way of us having

01:34:13.300 --> 01:34:16.120
-  a better understanding of what's happening,

01:34:16.120 --> 01:34:18.160
-  not trying to have control over anything,

01:34:18.160 --> 01:34:20.340
-  but just feeling more connected to what's going on

01:34:20.340 --> 01:34:22.060
-  in our city, and the boards and commissions

01:34:22.060 --> 01:34:23.740
-  that we help appoint people to,

01:34:23.740 --> 01:34:26.620
-  and making them feel like they're heard,

01:34:26.620 --> 01:34:29.820
-  and their work is being acknowledged.

01:34:29.820 --> 01:34:35.000
-  Other questions or comments about that?

01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:36.500
-  Council Member Piedmont-Smith.

01:34:36.500 --> 01:34:42.860
-  Well, just to back up what Council Member Zulik said,

01:34:42.860 --> 01:34:46.420
-  we were envisioning when we were talking about this

01:34:46.420 --> 01:34:47.900
-  in the Committee on Council Processes,

01:34:47.900 --> 01:34:50.900
-  we were envisioning that people,

01:34:50.900 --> 01:34:53.180
-  like all three people on the interview committee

01:34:53.180 --> 01:34:55.900
-  would write down what they're most interested in

01:34:55.900 --> 01:34:58.420
-  as far as serving as liaison.

01:34:58.420 --> 01:35:01.320
-  And then the chair would just try to put that together

01:35:01.320 --> 01:35:02.500
-  and make fair assignments,

01:35:02.500 --> 01:35:03.740
-  and then the committee would vote on it.

01:35:03.740 --> 01:35:06.700
-  So it seems very unlikely that somebody would,

01:35:06.700 --> 01:35:09.300
-  unless they're not interested in anything,

01:35:09.300 --> 01:35:11.900
-  that it seems unlikely they would have something

01:35:11.900 --> 01:35:15.500
-  that they have no interest in, so.

01:35:15.500 --> 01:35:16.340
-  I would agree.

01:35:16.340 --> 01:35:22.540
-  I also wanna point out that this resolution

01:35:22.540 --> 01:35:25.340
-  is supposed to start in January of next year,

01:35:25.340 --> 01:35:27.940
-  and each year the president has an opportunity

01:35:27.940 --> 01:35:29.760
-  to change interview committees.

01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:31.980
-  And so that's the other thing that I wanna point out

01:35:31.980 --> 01:35:33.900
-  for whoever is president next year

01:35:33.900 --> 01:35:35.900
-  in terms of checking in with people that,

01:35:35.900 --> 01:35:40.300
-  prior to now, the interview committees

01:35:40.300 --> 01:35:41.620
-  just interviewed people,

01:35:41.620 --> 01:35:44.160
-  and so it maybe didn't necessarily matter

01:35:44.160 --> 01:35:46.200
-  which interview team you were on,

01:35:46.200 --> 01:35:48.560
-  but now since we actually have these,

01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:52.620
-  assuming this passes, a larger responsibility for each one,

01:35:52.620 --> 01:35:55.700
-  there might be interview committees

01:35:55.700 --> 01:35:57.260
-  that might be more or less desirable

01:35:57.260 --> 01:35:59.180
-  for different members based on their interests.

01:35:59.180 --> 01:36:01.220
-  So that is just an additional thing

01:36:01.220 --> 01:36:04.740
-  to take into consideration next year.

01:36:04.740 --> 01:36:08.740
-  Are there other questions or comments?

01:36:08.740 --> 01:36:09.860
-  Council Member Asari.

01:36:09.860 --> 01:36:11.580
-  I wonder if we should consider,

01:36:11.580 --> 01:36:13.580
-  maybe this is, it's not something we need to consider now,

01:36:13.580 --> 01:36:16.020
-  but just as we think through this moving forward

01:36:16.020 --> 01:36:19.460
-  is whether such a mechanism might,

01:36:19.460 --> 01:36:24.460
-  replace is too strong a word,

01:36:24.460 --> 01:36:27.260
-  but whether we can then streamline

01:36:27.260 --> 01:36:30.380
-  some of the appointment procedures,

01:36:30.380 --> 01:36:31.220
-  because at the end of the day,

01:36:31.220 --> 01:36:33.460
-  all of our appointments get made by the whole council.

01:36:33.460 --> 01:36:37.580
-  So whether in essence you remove the three-body person,

01:36:37.580 --> 01:36:39.460
-  people who have to do the interviewing and all that,

01:36:39.460 --> 01:36:41.740
-  and we actually just, it's like the liaison

01:36:41.740 --> 01:36:44.340
-  is the person who brings that to the larger group.

01:36:44.340 --> 01:36:47.260
-  So 'cause we are sort of proliferating

01:36:47.260 --> 01:36:52.260
-  our meetings here with this,

01:36:52.260 --> 01:36:56.580
-  which is fine, I mean, it does give some structure,

01:36:56.580 --> 01:36:58.220
-  I think, to something that we've all wanted to do,

01:36:58.220 --> 01:37:01.860
-  which is be more involved in some of these committees.

01:37:01.860 --> 01:37:03.500
-  But then, and so that's one thought.

01:37:03.500 --> 01:37:06.780
-  Then the second thought for me is the overlapping of,

01:37:06.780 --> 01:37:09.900
-  we just made those Title 15 changes,

01:37:09.900 --> 01:37:12.540
-  sort of being clearer about the reports

01:37:12.540 --> 01:37:15.180
-  that we want from the committees themselves,

01:37:15.180 --> 01:37:16.780
-  and so thinking a little bit about

01:37:16.780 --> 01:37:21.780
-  how do we make sure that council member reports

01:37:21.780 --> 01:37:26.900
-  are complimentary or supportive

01:37:26.900 --> 01:37:29.100
-  or happening in cadences that make sense

01:37:29.100 --> 01:37:31.140
-  so that we're not just sort of duplicating things

01:37:31.140 --> 01:37:32.620
-  that we're just gonna hear anyways

01:37:32.620 --> 01:37:34.780
-  from the committees themselves.

01:37:34.780 --> 01:37:36.700
-  So I do think we should give some thought,

01:37:36.700 --> 01:37:40.620
-  again, I get the sort of informal nature of this,

01:37:40.620 --> 01:37:42.020
-  but we should give some thought

01:37:42.020 --> 01:37:46.620
-  to how are we going to usefully report back to one another

01:37:46.620 --> 01:37:49.940
-  so it's not just like I went to said committee,

01:37:49.940 --> 01:37:54.380
-  you know, and you know, what is the useful information

01:37:54.380 --> 01:37:55.820
-  that we're reporting to each other

01:37:55.820 --> 01:37:57.660
-  sort of ahead of things, right?

01:37:57.660 --> 01:38:00.900
-  Okay, maybe that's the kind of thing

01:38:00.900 --> 01:38:03.060
-  that should go into some kind of

01:38:03.060 --> 01:38:04.860
-  like administrative manual sort of thing,

01:38:04.860 --> 01:38:06.540
-  which I think Committee on Council Processes

01:38:06.540 --> 01:38:09.740
-  is also working on that too.

01:38:09.740 --> 01:38:12.540
-  Are you working on that kind of thing?

01:38:16.060 --> 01:38:18.580
-  Clerk Bolden, did you have something to add to this?

01:38:18.580 --> 01:38:21.460
-  Not quite directly, but I did want to point out

01:38:21.460 --> 01:38:23.380
-  that Deputy Clerk Crossley is online

01:38:23.380 --> 01:38:25.300
-  if you have any questions for her as well

01:38:25.300 --> 01:38:29.260
-  related to council committees and that sort of thing.

01:38:29.260 --> 01:38:30.580
-  Okay, thank you.

01:38:30.580 --> 01:38:33.860
-  Are there other questions?

01:38:33.860 --> 01:38:39.840
-  I actually have another one that relates

01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:42.340
-  to section four, number four,

01:38:42.340 --> 01:38:44.260
-  which says informing assigned boards

01:38:44.260 --> 01:38:46.760
-  or commission chairs and staff liaisons

01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:48.700
-  of any relevant legislation being developed

01:38:48.700 --> 01:38:51.300
-  or discussed by the council and soliciting feedback

01:38:51.300 --> 01:38:54.100
-  from the boards or commissions on said legislation.

01:38:54.100 --> 01:38:56.340
-  And I'm kind of concerned that there might be

01:38:56.340 --> 01:38:58.140
-  a timing issue of that.

01:38:58.140 --> 01:39:00.240
-  First of all, who defines relevant

01:39:00.240 --> 01:39:02.420
-  and what might be relevant or what might not be,

01:39:02.420 --> 01:39:04.700
-  but especially in terms of say a resolution

01:39:04.700 --> 01:39:07.360
-  that might relate to a board or commission.

01:39:07.360 --> 01:39:09.580
-  If that packet gets released on a Friday

01:39:09.580 --> 01:39:11.300
-  for a discussion the next Wednesday,

01:39:11.300 --> 01:39:14.260
-  I mean the chances that there's going to be a meeting

01:39:14.260 --> 01:39:16.140
-  of that board and commission within that time

01:39:16.140 --> 01:39:19.780
-  that then they would be able to discuss it is like low.

01:39:19.780 --> 01:39:24.780
-  So I don't quite know how to actually do that.

01:39:24.780 --> 01:39:29.160
-  So that was intended to be a little less formal

01:39:29.160 --> 01:39:32.660
-  than full meetings and mostly reaching out to the chair

01:39:32.660 --> 01:39:36.780
-  and the staff liaison who might be able to offer

01:39:36.780 --> 01:39:39.420
-  some insight on behalf of those commissions.

01:39:39.460 --> 01:39:43.820
-  I guess that makes me a little uncomfortable

01:39:43.820 --> 01:39:48.820
-  to then rely on essentially one member of the commission

01:39:48.820 --> 01:39:53.240
-  and then the staff member to give potentially an opinion

01:39:53.240 --> 01:39:55.700
-  on legislation as opposed to the whole commission.

01:39:55.700 --> 01:39:58.020
-  Okay.

01:39:58.020 --> 01:40:00.100
-  I mean, I don't know if,

01:40:00.100 --> 01:40:03.460
-  I just don't know how possible that is all the time

01:40:03.460 --> 01:40:08.620
-  to get meaningful feedback from the board or commission.

01:40:09.260 --> 01:40:13.980
-  Does anybody else have any thoughts on that at all?

01:40:13.980 --> 01:40:17.100
-  Council Member Piedmont-Smith.

01:40:17.100 --> 01:40:23.860
-  I mean, to me it's understood that the term,

01:40:23.860 --> 01:40:30.540
-  the phrase if feasible is understood in my reading of it,

01:40:30.540 --> 01:40:34.180
-  but I know it's not always gonna be feasible.

01:40:34.180 --> 01:40:36.540
-  But sometimes we hear about,

01:40:36.540 --> 01:40:39.060
-  what we ourselves are working on,

01:40:39.060 --> 01:40:40.860
-  or we hear about a colleague working on something

01:40:40.860 --> 01:40:43.500
-  way before it comes as legislation, so.

01:40:43.500 --> 01:40:55.820
-  Council Member, sorry.

01:40:55.820 --> 01:40:57.620
-  And just like logistically too,

01:40:57.620 --> 01:40:59.500
-  because again, if we're leaning

01:40:59.500 --> 01:41:02.260
-  into the more sort of informal thing,

01:41:02.260 --> 01:41:03.940
-  are these assignments something we have to do

01:41:03.940 --> 01:41:08.300
-  in a formal open door meeting?

01:41:08.300 --> 01:41:12.740
-  Or for example, can I write my two committee members

01:41:12.740 --> 01:41:16.460
-  and say, I'd like to be liaison for these three things?

01:41:16.460 --> 01:41:21.180
-  Do those assignments have to be done officially

01:41:21.180 --> 01:41:25.060
-  in an open meeting, or can we just sort of informally say,

01:41:25.060 --> 01:41:28.580
-  I'm going to go to the status of black males commission?

01:41:28.580 --> 01:41:33.180
-  Like I said, it would be pretty similar

01:41:33.180 --> 01:41:36.940
-  to the original boards and commission appointments

01:41:36.940 --> 01:41:38.580
-  for council members.

01:41:38.580 --> 01:41:39.660
-  But yeah, but are we appoint,

01:41:39.660 --> 01:41:42.100
-  because the legislation, the resolution says

01:41:42.100 --> 01:41:44.340
-  we appoint internally to the group,

01:41:44.340 --> 01:41:47.020
-  but then we're likening it to the president

01:41:47.020 --> 01:41:48.260
-  making the appointment.

01:41:48.260 --> 01:41:50.740
-  So do those appointments have to be official,

01:41:50.740 --> 01:41:52.780
-  or is it enough that I just sort of say,

01:41:52.780 --> 01:41:54.180
-  I'll cover that commission?

01:41:54.180 --> 01:41:58.260
-  Would our attorney like to answer that?

01:41:58.260 --> 01:42:00.180
-  My suspicion would be that they have to be made

01:42:00.180 --> 01:42:01.980
-  in a public meeting.

01:42:01.980 --> 01:42:04.860
-  Which means we all, yeah, so I mean, yeah, so.

01:42:04.860 --> 01:42:08.740
-  Attorney Lainer, would you like to clarify the ODL

01:42:08.740 --> 01:42:10.060
-  in terms of whether those appointments

01:42:10.060 --> 01:42:12.800
-  need to be made publicly or not?

01:42:12.800 --> 01:42:18.220
-  Are you talking about the appointments

01:42:18.220 --> 01:42:20.460
-  within the interview committee

01:42:20.460 --> 01:42:22.940
-  to a particular board and commission?

01:42:22.940 --> 01:42:23.780
-  Correct.

01:42:23.780 --> 01:42:28.940
-  I think that would be done in the committee meeting.

01:42:31.060 --> 01:42:32.380
-  Right.

01:42:32.380 --> 01:42:33.380
-  I would imagine it would be

01:42:33.380 --> 01:42:35.740
-  in the first committee meeting of the year

01:42:35.740 --> 01:42:39.440
-  with just ironing out all the details.

01:42:39.440 --> 01:42:46.540
-  Are there other questions?

01:42:46.540 --> 01:42:50.300
-  All right, let's go ahead and move to public comment

01:42:50.300 --> 01:42:53.740
-  on resolution 2025-15, if there's any members of the public

01:42:53.740 --> 01:42:56.980
-  who would like to comment on this resolution.

01:42:56.980 --> 01:42:59.580
-  I don't see anybody in chambers.

01:42:59.580 --> 01:43:01.980
-  Is there anybody online who has raised a hand?

01:43:01.980 --> 01:43:08.780
-  Okay, returning back to council then

01:43:08.780 --> 01:43:12.980
-  for any final comments or questions.

01:43:12.980 --> 01:43:20.180
-  Are there any final comments?

01:43:20.180 --> 01:43:21.460
-  Council Member Rosenberger?

01:43:21.460 --> 01:43:22.820
-  I just have something to say in general

01:43:22.820 --> 01:43:26.140
-  about our commission, our committees,

01:43:26.140 --> 01:43:29.500
-  interview committees, that I think is incredibly hard

01:43:29.500 --> 01:43:31.940
-  to have three people, so if two people ever talk,

01:43:31.940 --> 01:43:34.100
-  it's in violation of open door law,

01:43:34.100 --> 01:43:37.140
-  and I would like to potentially, not tonight,

01:43:37.140 --> 01:43:38.980
-  but consider, I think this is great,

01:43:38.980 --> 01:43:40.060
-  I'm happy to support it,

01:43:40.060 --> 01:43:44.300
-  but consider having larger committees

01:43:44.300 --> 01:43:47.300
-  so that two of us can talk sometimes,

01:43:47.300 --> 01:43:51.100
-  just about coordination of who's gonna be where, or, yeah.

01:43:51.100 --> 01:43:58.420
-  Interesting, okay, thank you.

01:43:58.420 --> 01:43:59.860
-  Are there other comments?

01:43:59.860 --> 01:44:05.300
-  I'll go ahead and go, I am happy to support this,

01:44:05.300 --> 01:44:08.540
-  but I am still nervous about that section four, number four,

01:44:08.540 --> 01:44:11.400
-  because there's not an if feasible in there,

01:44:11.400 --> 01:44:13.420
-  and I appreciate that it's implied,

01:44:13.420 --> 01:44:14.820
-  and of course, like, what happens

01:44:14.820 --> 01:44:16.620
-  if we don't fulfill these responsibilities,

01:44:16.620 --> 01:44:20.980
-  like, there's not really a mechanism of consequence

01:44:20.980 --> 01:44:25.020
-  for not doing our jobs, at least not, you know,

01:44:25.020 --> 01:44:27.440
-  for our term, pretty much.

01:44:27.440 --> 01:44:33.500
-  But I will make every effort to do this.

01:44:33.500 --> 01:44:37.060
-  So if there are no other comments,

01:44:37.060 --> 01:44:39.420
-  if the clerk could please call the roll

01:44:39.420 --> 01:44:41.860
-  on resolution 2025-15.

01:44:41.860 --> 01:44:47.540
-  Council Member Piedmont-Smith?

01:44:47.540 --> 01:44:48.380
-  Yes.

01:44:48.380 --> 01:44:50.300
-  Stasberg?

01:44:50.300 --> 01:44:51.120
-  Yes.

01:44:51.120 --> 01:44:52.040
-  Daly?

01:44:52.040 --> 01:44:52.940
-  Yes.

01:44:52.940 --> 01:44:53.760
-  Zulek?

01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:54.600
-  Yes.

01:44:54.600 --> 01:44:55.440
-  Sombarger?

01:44:55.440 --> 01:44:56.260
-  Yes.

01:44:56.260 --> 01:44:57.100
-  Asari?

01:44:57.100 --> 01:44:57.940
-  Yes.

01:44:57.940 --> 01:44:59.740
-  Flaherty?

01:44:59.740 --> 01:45:01.040
-  Yes.

01:45:01.040 --> 01:45:01.880
-  Ruff?

01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:02.900
-  Yes.

01:45:02.900 --> 01:45:03.740
-  Rallo?

01:45:03.740 --> 01:45:06.060
-  Yes.

01:45:06.060 --> 01:45:07.380
-  Thank you.

01:45:07.380 --> 01:45:08.740
-  Great, thank you.

01:45:08.740 --> 01:45:11.660
-  So that passes unanimously.

01:45:11.660 --> 01:45:14.420
-  So now we're going to move back to the ordinance

01:45:14.420 --> 01:45:17.180
-  that we changed the order of earlier.

01:45:17.180 --> 01:45:22.560
-  I move that ordinance 2025-33 be introduced

01:45:22.560 --> 01:45:25.820
-  and read by the clerk by title and synopsis only.

01:45:25.820 --> 01:45:26.660
-  Second.

01:45:26.660 --> 01:45:27.620
-  It's been moved and seconded

01:45:27.620 --> 01:45:29.700
-  to introduce ordinance 2025-33.

01:45:29.700 --> 01:45:32.140
-  Will the clerk please call the roll on that motion?

01:45:32.140 --> 01:45:32.980
-  Yes.

01:45:32.980 --> 01:45:33.820
-  Stossberg?

01:45:33.820 --> 01:45:34.660
-  Yes.

01:45:34.660 --> 01:45:35.480
-  Naly?

01:45:35.480 --> 01:45:36.320
-  Yes.

01:45:36.320 --> 01:45:37.160
-  Zulek?

01:45:37.160 --> 01:45:37.980
-  Yes.

01:45:37.980 --> 01:45:38.820
-  Rosenberger?

01:45:38.820 --> 01:45:39.660
-  Yes.

01:45:39.660 --> 01:45:40.480
-  Asari?

01:45:40.480 --> 01:45:41.320
-  Yes.

01:45:41.320 --> 01:45:42.160
-  Flaherty?

01:45:42.160 --> 01:45:42.980
-  Yes.

01:45:42.980 --> 01:45:43.820
-  Ruff?

01:45:43.820 --> 01:45:44.660
-  Yes.

01:45:44.660 --> 01:45:45.480
-  Rallo?

01:45:45.480 --> 01:45:46.320
-  Yes.

01:45:46.320 --> 01:45:47.160
-  Piedmont-Smith?

01:45:47.160 --> 01:45:47.980
-  Yes.

01:45:47.980 --> 01:45:48.820
-  Great, thank you.

01:45:48.820 --> 01:45:50.020
-  Will the clerk please read?

01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:55.520
-  Ordinance 2025-33 to establish the Fiber Connectivity Fund

01:45:55.520 --> 01:46:00.220
-  for Digital Opportunity Initiatives.

01:46:00.220 --> 01:46:02.180
-  The synopsis is as follows.

01:46:02.180 --> 01:46:06.360
-  Ordinance 2025-33 establishes the Fiber Connectivity Fund

01:46:06.360 --> 01:46:10.100
-  to support broadband access for income qualifying residents,

01:46:10.100 --> 01:46:12.520
-  ensuring affordable high-speed internet

01:46:12.520 --> 01:46:14.260
-  and promoting digital opportunity

01:46:14.260 --> 01:46:17.480
-  while also securing annual infrastructure contributions

01:46:17.480 --> 01:46:18.500
-  from the developer.

01:46:19.500 --> 01:46:20.900
-  Thank you.

01:46:20.900 --> 01:46:25.520
-  I move that Ordinance 2025-33 be adopted.

01:46:25.520 --> 01:46:27.120
-  Second.

01:46:27.120 --> 01:46:28.120
-  Thank you.

01:46:28.120 --> 01:46:32.240
-  It looks like the controller is at the podium.

01:46:32.240 --> 01:46:34.320
-  He's gonna stay there today.

01:46:34.320 --> 01:46:36.360
-  If you could go ahead and introduce yourself for the record

01:46:36.360 --> 01:46:38.640
-  and tell us what this is all about.

01:46:38.640 --> 01:46:39.560
-  Good evening, Council.

01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:42.840
-  Controller McClellan, ITS Director Rick Dietz

01:46:42.840 --> 01:46:45.640
-  and I will be presenting this request to you tonight.

01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:48.360
-  This also has to do with the high-speed fiber

01:46:48.360 --> 01:46:50.800
-  that is being installed in Bloomington

01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:54.880
-  that was based off of a 2022 agreement with Meridium.

01:46:54.880 --> 01:46:58.600
-  And we keep saying Meridium now called M Street Fiber.

01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:00.360
-  There's a lot of names in this.

01:47:00.360 --> 01:47:03.600
-  So I'm just gonna switch to M Street Fiber.

01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:06.760
-  That is the company, that is the main overall company

01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:08.360
-  that we are working with now.

01:47:08.360 --> 01:47:13.360
-  So M Street Fiber and the city agreed to support access

01:47:13.360 --> 01:47:17.920
-  to the high-speed internet for low income

01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:22.320
-  and affordable housing units in Bloomington back in 2022.

01:47:22.320 --> 01:47:25.160
-  There is an agreement that the city will fund,

01:47:25.160 --> 01:47:27.720
-  will put a million dollars in a fund

01:47:27.720 --> 01:47:32.400
-  to support low income eligible houses

01:47:32.400 --> 01:47:35.280
-  just to connect to the high-speed fiber

01:47:35.280 --> 01:47:40.280
-  and that the M Street Fiber will match or exceed that amount

01:47:40.280 --> 01:47:47.000
-  if the total cost is over $700.

01:47:47.280 --> 01:47:50.280
-  So there's some details in this ordinance

01:47:50.280 --> 01:47:52.200
-  that create the fund that really lay out

01:47:52.200 --> 01:47:54.160
-  why the fund is being created,

01:47:54.160 --> 01:47:56.920
-  what the fund can be used for,

01:47:56.920 --> 01:47:59.440
-  how the city will use the proceeds

01:47:59.440 --> 01:48:03.800
-  to fulfill this promise that we made in the agreement

01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:07.900
-  and how the city has to use those funds

01:48:07.900 --> 01:48:10.720
-  after that agreement expires.

01:48:10.720 --> 01:48:12.900
-  And there is an expiration to the agreement.

01:48:12.900 --> 01:48:15.120
-  Rick Dietz can answer more questions about that.

01:48:15.120 --> 01:48:18.840
-  So really this is just creating the fund

01:48:18.840 --> 01:48:20.320
-  and explaining how it can be used

01:48:20.320 --> 01:48:23.000
-  and then we're gonna come back on September 30th

01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:27.240
-  and ask for an appropriation of $250,000

01:48:27.240 --> 01:48:29.360
-  into this fund from the general fund.

01:48:29.360 --> 01:48:34.360
-  And we decided to fund this fund over four years

01:48:34.360 --> 01:48:38.600
-  with $250,000 to kind of spread out

01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:42.040
-  that promise of a million dollars

01:48:42.040 --> 01:48:44.440
-  so that we don't have a big hit to the general fund

01:48:44.440 --> 01:48:47.560
-  and it spreads it out over four years.

01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:49.480
-  We don't have to use the general fund.

01:48:49.480 --> 01:48:52.760
-  We can use any fund that can be spent

01:48:52.760 --> 01:48:55.320
-  on any lawful purpose of the city.

01:48:55.320 --> 01:48:56.840
-  We just chose the general fund

01:48:56.840 --> 01:48:59.600
-  because it is our largest operating fund.

01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:03.000
-  But we can discuss that now

01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.920
-  or we can discuss the funding later

01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:08.560
-  when we come back for the additional appropriation.

01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:13.560
-  But Rick Dietz is online and he absolutely knows the most

01:49:14.280 --> 01:49:16.680
-  about this project more than anybody else

01:49:16.680 --> 01:49:18.720
-  in the entire city.

01:49:18.720 --> 01:49:21.480
-  With Andrew Syborg, the engineering director,

01:49:21.480 --> 01:49:22.320
-  a close second.

01:49:22.320 --> 01:49:24.900
-  So he is online to answer probably

01:49:24.900 --> 01:49:26.360
-  all of your other questions.

01:49:26.360 --> 01:49:28.320
-  (laughs)

01:49:28.320 --> 01:49:31.440
-  Mr. Dietz, do you have anything to add right now?

01:49:31.440 --> 01:49:34.000
-  No, I think that was a really good summary

01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:36.560
-  and I can't think of anything more

01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:38.680
-  that needs to be added at this point.

01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:42.800
-  Okay, thank you.

01:49:42.800 --> 01:49:45.560
-  Then I think it goes to council members for any questions

01:49:45.560 --> 01:49:49.320
-  related to this establishment.

01:49:49.320 --> 01:49:53.000
-  Do we have any questions?

01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:54.800
-  Council member, sorry.

01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:59.800
-  Just a really quick one probably for director Dietz.

01:49:59.800 --> 01:50:04.320
-  The eligibility criteria, is that set by the city

01:50:04.320 --> 01:50:08.180
-  or set by Gigabit now for the low income?

01:50:09.160 --> 01:50:13.200
-  Yeah, that eligibility criteria was defined

01:50:13.200 --> 01:50:17.640
-  in our master development agreement

01:50:17.640 --> 01:50:22.640
-  and it's a pretty lengthy list of existing

01:50:22.640 --> 01:50:31.480
-  low income qualifying programs

01:50:31.480 --> 01:50:34.520
-  from the federal government and from the state.

01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:39.520
-  So instead of creating an elaborate criteria,

01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:44.520
-  we simply say that if a household is receiving

01:50:44.520 --> 01:50:49.440
-  supplemental nutrition assistance programs SNAP

01:50:49.440 --> 01:50:54.440
-  or HUD housing vouchers, the Indiana Department of Education

01:50:54.440 --> 01:51:00.720
-  free and reduced lunches, any of those suffice

01:51:00.720 --> 01:51:03.760
-  for eligibility for this.

01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:08.680
-  That program is ultimately administered by a Gigabit now,

01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:11.960
-  but those were the criteria that we originally defined

01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:16.960
-  with Meridian in our original agreement with them.

01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:19.240
-  And that was, thank you for saying that

01:51:19.240 --> 01:51:21.680
-  'cause that was the part that I was a little unclear about.

01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:25.520
-  How does, so a city administered fund,

01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:28.160
-  but then it's administered by Gigabit now,

01:51:28.160 --> 01:51:29.880
-  like how does that exactly work?

01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:33.560
-  Like that an external party is assessing criteria,

01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:37.160
-  but then we're funding it, like how does that mechanism work?

01:51:37.160 --> 01:51:40.280
-  Yeah, so there's two separate things here.

01:51:40.280 --> 01:51:42.800
-  The eligibility for the program is one thing,

01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:47.600
-  and again, that's been defined in our original agreement.

01:51:47.600 --> 01:51:50.680
-  The fund that we're looking to establish here,

01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:54.960
-  which we're calling the Fiber Connectivity Fund,

01:51:54.960 --> 01:51:59.480
-  and the purpose of that is to provide city support

01:51:59.480 --> 01:52:03.400
-  for connecting low income households that are eligible

01:52:03.400 --> 01:52:08.400
-  for this program for the eligibility criteria

01:52:08.400 --> 01:52:13.400
-  to the Meridium M Street Fiber Network.

01:52:13.400 --> 01:52:16.800
-  And so we're providing, and this is where

01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:22.400
-  Controller mentioned the kind of the split

01:52:22.400 --> 01:52:27.400
-  and the allocation, if that cost to connect a unit,

01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:33.600
-  the residents is $700 or less, then the city

01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:38.880
-  is providing $350 or less, half of that cost

01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:43.840
-  out of this fund that we're establishing.

01:52:43.840 --> 01:52:47.520
-  If it's higher than that, then the city's obligation

01:52:47.520 --> 01:52:52.200
-  only extends to $350, and the remainder of the cost

01:52:52.200 --> 01:52:56.240
-  to connect that residence or housing unit

01:52:56.240 --> 01:52:59.480
-  to the network is borne by M Street Fiber.

01:52:59.480 --> 01:53:01.920
-  Okay, fantastic, you answered my follow-ups as well,

01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:02.760
-  so thank you.

01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:05.280
-  Are there other questions?

01:53:05.280 --> 01:53:10.960
-  Okay, I have kind of a clarification question.

01:53:10.960 --> 01:53:13.760
-  So in one of the whereas clauses,

01:53:13.760 --> 01:53:18.760
-  it specifies establishing a non-reverting fund,

01:53:18.760 --> 01:53:24.680
-  and then in the actual section of establishment,

01:53:24.680 --> 01:53:27.160
-  I don't see that it says that it's a non-reverting fund

01:53:27.160 --> 01:53:28.360
-  that we're establishing.

01:53:28.360 --> 01:53:30.520
-  Is that?

01:53:30.520 --> 01:53:32.840
-  It is a non-reverting fund.

01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:33.680
-  Okay.

01:53:33.680 --> 01:53:38.400
-  Is saying it in the whereas clause enough?

01:53:38.400 --> 01:53:41.120
-  Or did I just miss it in one of the sections?

01:53:41.120 --> 01:53:43.040
-  Let's see here.

01:53:43.040 --> 01:53:46.800
-  You probably didn't, you're probably correct.

01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:52.840
-  Let's see, reporting and accountability.

01:53:52.840 --> 01:53:53.680
-  Okay.

01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:59.160
-  I mean, it is a non-reverting fund,

01:53:59.160 --> 01:54:02.400
-  and the agreement states that it will be a non,

01:54:02.400 --> 01:54:04.360
-  the 2022 agreement states

01:54:04.360 --> 01:54:06.160
-  that it would be a non-reverting fund.

01:54:06.160 --> 01:54:13.480
-  And I think that when we refer back to this ordinance

01:54:13.480 --> 01:54:16.360
-  that created the fund, I mean, I agree with you.

01:54:16.360 --> 01:54:18.440
-  It should have been in a section,

01:54:18.440 --> 01:54:22.520
-  but having it in the whereas is at least,

01:54:22.520 --> 01:54:24.040
-  I feel like it's not a fatal flaw.

01:54:24.040 --> 01:54:25.800
-  At least it is mentioned in the whereas

01:54:25.800 --> 01:54:29.100
-  as in any reasonable reader reading this

01:54:29.100 --> 01:54:31.640
-  would see that it says it's going to be a non-reverting fund

01:54:31.640 --> 01:54:34.960
-  as just in a whereas instead of in a section.

01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:37.240
-  That would be my interpretation of this.

01:54:37.240 --> 01:54:41.040
-  If I go back into the ordinances and look up a fund

01:54:41.040 --> 01:54:44.480
-  to try to figure out what is this fund created for,

01:54:44.480 --> 01:54:46.060
-  I look at the whole document

01:54:46.060 --> 01:54:48.080
-  for any information I can get from that

01:54:48.080 --> 01:54:50.100
-  and use that as the law.

01:54:50.100 --> 01:54:52.420
-  So I mean, from a legal perspective,

01:54:52.420 --> 01:54:55.120
-  if anybody challenged it, I don't know,

01:54:55.120 --> 01:54:56.680
-  but I don't see it as a fatal flaw

01:54:56.680 --> 01:54:59.960
-  for our city being able to do business

01:54:59.960 --> 01:55:02.520
-  in relying on this document that created the fund.

01:55:02.520 --> 01:55:04.800
-  Okay, I'm sorry, I didn't point that out earlier,

01:55:04.800 --> 01:55:05.640
-  I asked that earlier.

01:55:05.640 --> 01:55:07.080
-  Council Attorney Liener, do you agree

01:55:07.080 --> 01:55:11.240
-  that having it in the whereas clause

01:55:11.240 --> 01:55:16.240
-  is suitable in terms of mutual understanding,

01:55:16.240 --> 01:55:19.520
-  not just now, but in the future?

01:55:19.520 --> 01:55:22.200
-  Where is it in the whereas clause?

01:55:22.200 --> 01:55:26.080
-  It is in the third whereas clause.

01:55:56.080 --> 01:56:01.760
-  i think it's an open question i mean i i think that one could make all the arguments that the

01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:03.040
-  controller just stated

01:56:03.040 --> 01:56:16.080
-  so do you think that it should be amended to specify i think it would be better if it was stated

01:56:16.080 --> 01:56:20.320
-  is that an amendment that y'all could do on the fly right now

01:56:20.320 --> 01:56:25.200
-  i'm sorry is that an amendment that you could do

01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:28.880
-  right now quickly to add in

01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:34.560
-  non-reverting somewhere in section one

01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:45.520
-  yes that we'd have to prepare it it has to be in writing the amendment must be riding and is that

01:56:45.520 --> 01:56:51.600
-  something that you can do in like 10 or 15 minutes because i have a couple other questions too so

01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:55.680
-  yeah yeah we can work on that thank you

01:56:55.680 --> 01:57:02.560
-  are there other questions from council members before i to my other ones

01:57:02.560 --> 01:57:17.680
-  okay this one might be a question for mr deets um in oh where am i in section two it says

01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:24.480
-  that the its department and relevant city departments shall develop policies and

01:57:24.480 --> 01:57:29.040
-  procedures to ensure effective implementation of the of the digital opportunities initiatives

01:57:29.040 --> 01:57:34.800
-  i was just wondering which departments needed to do that and if those procedures and policies

01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:40.800
-  were already like in place or if those like need to be worked on now

01:57:44.800 --> 01:57:56.160
-  um you know as far as policies in place to utilize these funds the the they they are for the sole

01:57:56.160 --> 01:58:04.960
-  purpose of supporting uh the connection of low income units to the network until

01:58:07.520 --> 01:58:17.840
-  until we reach the end of the exclusive period for the isp which is five years with

01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:25.680
-  two possible one-year extensions so between five and seven years at that point the

01:58:25.680 --> 01:58:34.800
-  at that point the use of the funds is also governed by the agreement and it states that

01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:43.840
-  they need to be used for uh you know for digital opportunity initiatives and those would all be

01:58:43.840 --> 01:58:48.880
-  you know once we reach that point those would all be budgeted as part of our normal

01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:57.840
-  our normal you know process with council approval during during the year also with regard to

01:58:58.560 --> 01:59:05.920
-  policy that we have a digital opportunity strategic plan that was developed in 2020

01:59:05.920 --> 01:59:12.560
-  and we're in the process of you know revising that towards the tail end of of this year

01:59:12.560 --> 01:59:20.640
-  and perhaps early early next and those will essentially be uh you know governing document

01:59:20.640 --> 01:59:27.520
-  documents with regard guards to our activities in that area okay so i'm not sure if that quiet

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-  answers your question i'm not sure i think i think the short answer is that um not right now not

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-  until the end of the original isp period and then there might be more work but by then it'll just

01:59:42.160 --> 01:59:49.920
-  get budgeted in yeah that's that's correct we would need to um and already are planning to

01:59:49.920 --> 01:59:57.760
-  appropriate through the council for the use of these uh funds both for the uh you know the current

01:59:57.760 --> 02:00:03.040
-  use you know and then you know in the future we would be requesting council authorization to use

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-  the fund for those other purposes okay thank you um i have another question does anybody else have

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-  any questions great and and this is giving staff plenty of time to uh to do this um in your memo

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-  um it talks about the city already having received invoices that need to be paid using this fund

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-  and i

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-  was just wondering um what those invoices currently total um my my recollection for those um and i'm

02:00:44.160 --> 02:00:55.120
-  sorry i don't have the right of hand is around 40 40 000 uh but the that predates the recent uh

02:00:55.120 --> 02:01:04.000
-  the recent connections at uh bloomington housing authority complexes uh you know which have have

02:01:04.000 --> 02:01:12.400
-  come online and in fact uh walnut woods is is lit now and and probably in the next couple of weeks

02:01:13.120 --> 02:01:18.800
-  we'll be able to accept uh uh customers coming on to the network so we anticipate

02:01:18.800 --> 02:01:22.800
-  more than that amount by the end of the year

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-  great thank you

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-  does staff have an amendment written for us yet

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-  should we recess for five minutes let's go ahead and recess until um well it's 8 33

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-  right now so let's just do 8 38 and uh that'll give uh staff a little bit more time

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-  i'm gonna need to call us back to order here uh so we have been working on an amendment

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-  and so we are working on getting that amendment up on the screen that adds

02:02:12.320 --> 02:02:23.200
-  um non-reverting to the fiber connectivity fund um i actually have it in front of me right now so i

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-  i'm gonna pass the gavel over to councilmember piedmont smith because

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-  i'm technically sponsored to this

02:02:35.200 --> 02:02:43.360
-  all right um for the benefit of colleagues let's wait to get this on the screen and the public

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-  here we go all motion

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-  okay councilmember stossberg i would like to move amendment one to resolution 20 25 33

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-  second okay there's a motion and a second for amendment one to ordinance 20 25 33 go ahead

02:03:06.240 --> 02:03:11.760
-  councilmember stossberg uh this just adds uh non-reverting into section one so section one

02:03:11.760 --> 02:03:19.040
-  now reads there is hereby created a non-reverbing non-reverting fiber connectivity fund um just to

02:03:19.040 --> 02:03:24.160
-  make sure that there is clarity mostly in the future for anybody who might see this in five

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-  seven or more years when um maybe it's not the same council members up there and up here and

02:03:30.080 --> 02:03:36.080
-  maybe not the same staff in city hall uh to make it clear that this the money in this fund stays

02:03:36.080 --> 02:03:41.680
-  in this fund to be used only for these purposes all right thank you very much is there any are

02:03:41.680 --> 02:03:49.760
-  there any questions about the amendment is there anybody in the public who would like to speak to

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-  the amendment if there's anybody online who wants to speak to this amendment no okay all right back

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-  to council any comments on the amendment i cannot see council member rollo at this point but

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-  if i don't hear anything i don't see a hand raised so let's go ahead and go to a vote

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-  on amendment one to ordinance 2025-33 council member dailey yes zulek yes rosenberger yes

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-  vasari yes clarity yes ruff yes rollo yes pete bunt smith yes stossberg yes thank you all right

02:04:43.120 --> 02:04:43.360
-  that

02:04:43.360 --> 02:04:50.240
-  amendment is adopted nine zero i'll pass it back to president stossberg thank you um sorry i didn't

02:04:50.240 --> 02:04:55.040
-  think of that earlier so were there any last questions about resolution or sorry ordinance

02:04:55.040 --> 02:05:02.400
-  2025-33 as amended great let's go to public comment on that then is there any public comment

02:05:02.400 --> 02:05:10.640
-  related to ordinance 2025-33 as amended i don't see anybody in chambers is there somebody online

02:05:10.640 --> 02:05:16.640
-  yes there is a wonderful um if the online commenter when they get unmuted if you could state your

02:05:16.640 --> 02:05:16.800
-  name

02:05:16.800 --> 02:05:24.080
-  for the record and then you'll have up to three minutes as kevin keel uh looking at the master

02:05:24.080 --> 02:05:31.200
-  agreement i'm just reading again it's open source information about the contractor the main

02:05:31.200 --> 02:05:31.840
-  contractor

02:05:31.840 --> 02:05:41.840
-  has three years to uh substantially complete the uh the build out and i i understand is that is the

02:05:41.840 --> 02:05:49.680
-  uh definition of that is 85 percent of the premises need to be ready to go by october

02:05:49.680 --> 02:05:57.360
-  of 2025 and seeing that it's september 17th now i just you know for we're going to put a

02:05:57.360 --> 02:06:03.600
-  million dollars in this but how is how is the project actually progressing is it

02:06:03.600 --> 02:06:13.200
-  does the master agreement need also to be amended or somehow changed to show that they they're

02:06:13.200 --> 02:06:20.880
-  am i wrong they're not in compliance with the master agreement uh it's just confusing to me

02:06:20.880 --> 02:06:26.160
-  this but there's this this and i didn't expect this that's what i'm just listening in and i started

02:06:26.160 --> 02:06:31.920
-  reading up to it because i was so confused just it seems to be some more issues that aren't even

02:06:31.920 --> 02:06:39.280
-  being discussed and i find that troubling it's and it seems we've already had a situation earlier

02:06:39.280 --> 02:06:44.880
-  where we're trying to figure out where to put a million dollars from a surity bond but i'm saying

02:06:44.880 --> 02:06:54.160
-  they went bust in all that exposure there so anyway i just wanted to to uh add that to the

02:06:54.160 --> 02:06:59.520
-  the mix just i'm just you know as a member of the public just so confused about what is going on

02:06:59.520 --> 02:07:08.560
-  with this project is there been some type of you know assessment of where we stand here how is this

02:07:08.560 --> 02:07:16.560
-  you know i don't know the quality of the project how is it you know are the citizens getting good

02:07:16.560 --> 02:07:21.520
-  value with this i guess is the bottom quality you know the bottom line question it just seems

02:07:22.800 --> 02:07:28.160
-  you know it just i just i don't feel comfortable after reading some of this and hearing what

02:07:28.160 --> 02:07:35.920
-  the discussion tonight thank you again for the opportunity to comment thank you are there other

02:07:35.920 --> 02:07:43.840
-  members of the public online with a hand raised no okay thank you um let's go ahead and revert

02:07:43.840 --> 02:07:54.080
-  to council for any um final comments on um ordinance 20 25 33 as amended

02:07:54.080 --> 02:07:57.360
-  council member rollo

02:07:57.360 --> 02:08:05.760
-  uh well just to raise the question i guess of compliance and and uh timing

02:08:09.200 --> 02:08:17.920
-  to director deets or to miss rice director deets do you uh is director deets still there

02:08:17.920 --> 02:08:31.280
-  there he is yes um you know as far as timing uh the the construction is pretty much halfway halfway

02:08:31.280 --> 02:08:41.440
-  done no one anticipated the uh uh the dissolution of uh you know of aeg in the in the middle of the

02:08:41.440 --> 02:08:48.800
-  project but we anticipate being able to get back up to speed in the coming coming weeks and months

02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:57.200
-  uh i'm not sure that that answers your your your question or your your statements

02:08:58.160 --> 02:09:06.480
-  well is this so the schedule of compliance to 85 percent or 80 percent completion is that

02:09:06.480 --> 02:09:17.920
-  feasible in the near term um it is it's probably not as um originally uh originally discussed but

02:09:17.920 --> 02:09:26.240
-  then we've had a year uh you know a year pause in construction because of the sorry there was a

02:09:26.240 --> 02:09:33.280
-  comment uh sorry i'm hearing something come through so we're on a new timetable in other words

02:09:33.280 --> 02:09:42.480
-  and yeah likely we will yeah we will need to adjust our our timetable because of because of this

02:09:42.480 --> 02:09:49.840
-  okay can you say this evening what that timetable is in terms of anticipated completion

02:09:50.640 --> 02:09:57.440
-  um i can tell you we anticipate um renewing the construction phase

02:09:57.440 --> 02:10:05.440
-  in the next couple of weeks you know at least in part and then at least i would see it you know

02:10:05.440 --> 02:10:12.880
-  we're probably um you know at the at the tail end of of next year uh for completion

02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:18.720
-  you know given that we're about halfway uh or a little over halfway through

02:10:18.720 --> 02:10:28.320
-  through okay thank you okay thank you are there other could i ask one more to follow up if it's

02:10:28.320 --> 02:10:36.560
-  sure maybe someone else will but sure mr kiyo talked about satisfaction any any comments on that

02:10:36.560 --> 02:10:47.120
-  mr deets as far as yeah customers who have signed up and are using the service uh you know they

02:10:47.120 --> 02:10:47.360
-  they

02:10:47.360 --> 02:10:56.080
-  seem very happy with it um i i don't have a scientific uh survey of that yet and although

02:10:56.080 --> 02:11:02.160
-  we are anticipating doing uh doing a survey as part of our digital equity strategic plan which will

02:11:02.160 --> 02:11:11.760
-  ask about um ask about that um what i can tell you anecdotally uh you know from just the like

02:11:11.760 --> 02:11:17.760
-  two most recent conversations over the course of the last in probably three weeks people are happy

02:11:17.760 --> 02:11:26.400
-  with the service um you know again that's you know i think they're happy just with the service

02:11:26.400 --> 02:11:31.920
-  period but they're also happy with the service in comparison to their experience with prior

02:11:31.920 --> 02:11:32.560
-  providers

02:11:35.120 --> 02:11:43.600
-  thank you thank you are there other comments from council members um i'll just say uh just as a

02:11:43.600 --> 02:11:50.810
-  matter of information for the public if you go to bloomington.in.gov/fiber um that is the

02:11:50.810 --> 02:11:51.200
-  information

02:11:51.200 --> 02:11:55.920
-  about the fiber initiative and that there is a construction progress map on there and so i

02:11:55.920 --> 02:12:04.480
-  assume as construction resumes uh that all will be kept up to date um so with that correct great

02:12:04.480 --> 02:12:11.040
-  thank you um so with that if the clerk could please call the roll on ordinance 2025-33 as amended

02:12:11.040 --> 02:12:14.960
-  council member Zulek yes

02:12:14.960 --> 02:12:24.160
-  Rosenberger yes Asari yes Flaherty yes Ruff yes Rallo

02:12:25.760 --> 02:12:35.440
-  yes Piedmont-Smith yes Stasberg yes Daley yes thank you thank you that passes unanimously and

02:12:35.440 --> 02:12:40.240
-  brings us to the end of our legislation for this evening we do have a period of additional public

02:12:40.240 --> 02:12:46.400
-  comment next if any members of the public would like to comment on items not on the agenda uh who

02:12:46.400 --> 02:12:51.600
-  did not comment during our first general period of public comment i don't see anybody in chambers

02:12:51.600 --> 02:12:51.680
-  is

02:12:51.680 --> 02:12:57.440
-  there anybody online with a hand raised we do have someone online i'll unmute them wonderful thank

02:12:57.440 --> 02:12:57.680
-  you

02:12:57.680 --> 02:13:00.960
-  when you're unmuted you can go ahead and state your name for the record and then you'll have up to

02:13:00.960 --> 02:13:09.920
-  three minutes and good evening uh council this is Christopher MG from the greater Bloomington

02:13:09.920 --> 02:13:10.320
-  chamber

02:13:10.320 --> 02:13:16.320
-  of commerce sorry i'm not there in person tonight uh we always can be in this community a little

02:13:16.320 --> 02:13:16.480
-  bit

02:13:16.480 --> 02:13:22.000
-  of a clinic senate a jaded tourist but i just wanted to bring up that uh we have some momentum

02:13:22.000 --> 02:13:28.000
-  across uh some major projects in the city uh the recent stadium district uh that's going to be

02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:32.720
-  before you soon i think it's going to create some real new uh opportunities on the north side with

02:13:32.720 --> 02:13:40.000
-  restaurants entertainment in the iconic iu athletic area and by using the the river district tool

02:13:40.000 --> 02:13:40.240
-  that

02:13:40.240 --> 02:13:44.000
-  the state has provided us it's going to allow some flexibility with liquor permitting i think it's

02:13:44.000 --> 02:13:48.640
-  going to be a big advantage tracking new businesses some high traffic corridor that we're already

02:13:48.640 --> 02:13:54.080
-  sitting with of course our great iu football team and then the hokwell neighborhood the redevelopment

02:13:54.080 --> 02:13:58.880
-  there that's shifting the approach to make it easier for local builders and small developers

02:13:58.880 --> 02:14:04.880
-  to participate i think this is exciting uh housing as we know is a major issue as we saw uh last

02:14:04.880 --> 02:14:05.120
-  week

02:14:05.120 --> 02:14:10.480
-  in a very effective deliberation meeting and the trades district continues to advance as kind of an

02:14:10.480 --> 02:14:15.920
-  innovation hub for entrepreneurs i think john fernandez's steady hand has really made this a

02:14:15.920 --> 02:14:22.640
-  anchor for high tech and creative industries and with iu as a partner i think uh and the boutique

02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:26.720
-  hotel coming in next year i think this is place is going to take off for young professionals and

02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:26.960
-  then

02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:34.800
-  of course the convention center where uh last week the chamber had its 110th uh oversold annual

02:14:34.800 --> 02:14:42.240
-  meeting is set nicely for expansion um thanks to the capital improvement board so this is going

02:14:42.240 --> 02:14:46.800
-  to be huge and boosting tourism strengthening downtown so i think together with these four

02:14:46.800 --> 02:14:53.120
-  projects um we're showing how building how bloomington is becoming stronger building for

02:14:53.120 --> 02:14:58.080
-  the future writing that next chapter of economic development that kind of pushes back against

02:14:58.080 --> 02:15:04.160
-  sometimes the narrative of that we've seen in social media other places so i just want to give

02:15:04.160 --> 02:15:09.600
-  some shout outs to everybody working hard to make this a more livable city and i thank you for your

02:15:09.600 --> 02:15:25.680
-  time no okay thank you very much um coming back to council then for any notes on council's schedule

02:15:25.680 --> 02:15:32.480
-  um i don't have that written down today so i'm gonna have to get my calendar up uh next week

02:15:33.280 --> 02:15:41.760
-  we have our special session um on the 24th our special budget session um and we will have a

02:15:41.760 --> 02:15:47.040
-  committee of the whole to discuss the final budget ordinance our next regular session as i said

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-  earlier

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-  is on tuesday tuesday is different september 30th also at 6 30 in these chambers does anybody else

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-  have any notes on council schedule seeing none we are adjourned thank you

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