WEBVTT 00:00:00.450 --> 00:00:09.995 - Seeing that it is now 630, I would like to call to order this regular session of Bloomington's Common 00:00:09.995 --> 00:00:19.820 - Council on July 29th. Will the Honorable Clerk please read the roll? Thank you. All right. Councilmember 00:00:19.820 --> 00:00:28.990 - Flaherty? Yes, here. Same thing. Stossberg? Here. Piedmont-Smith? Here. Zulek? Here. Asari? Here. 00:00:32.642 --> 00:00:45.155 - Come back Rollo here rough Rosenbarger and Then Daley here, okay All right. We have a fairly straightforward 00:00:45.155 --> 00:00:55.486 - agenda today plenty of minutes for approval you will have hopefully note that there was a 00:00:56.098 --> 00:01:03.808 - Amendment sent out to these minutes. We have reports as we usually do a handful of appointments at Boards 00:01:03.808 --> 00:01:11.299 - and commissions and then three items two items for first reading one item for second reading and there 00:01:11.299 --> 00:01:18.572 - will be two times of public comment and Those are the times we eagerly look forward to so with that 00:01:18.572 --> 00:01:22.718 - there are minutes for approval are there any motions and 00:01:24.322 --> 00:01:36.791 - January 7th January 2006 No, January 7th 2026 January 14th 2026 February 4th 2026 February 25th 2026 00:01:36.791 --> 00:01:49.630 - and March 31st 2026 Motion and a second any further amendments to the minutes All right, will the clerk 00:01:49.630 --> 00:01:52.222 - please call the roll 00:01:55.650 --> 00:02:07.486 - Councilmember Flaherty Stasberg Piedmont Smith Zulik sorry. Yes, Daley. Yes Rallo Yes Thank you very 00:02:07.486 --> 00:02:19.674 - much. We'll now move on to reports First from council members. Does anybody have a report for this week 00:02:19.674 --> 00:02:25.182 - and go to councilmember Piedmont Smith Yes, we 00:02:25.474 --> 00:02:35.424 - were on council recess when the 250th anniversary of this country or the Declaration of Independence 00:02:35.424 --> 00:02:45.472 - came around this July 4th. So in a somewhat late celebration of that, I wanted to read part of a poem 00:02:45.472 --> 00:02:55.422 - by Amanda Gorman called In This Place, An American Lyric. I won't read the whole thing because it is 00:02:55.810 --> 00:03:04.597 - somewhat lengthy, but I'll start in the middle. There's a lyric in California where thousands of students 00:03:04.597 --> 00:03:13.383 - march for blocks, undocumented and unafraid, where my friend Rosa finds the power to blossom in deadlock, 00:03:13.383 --> 00:03:22.087 - her spirit the bedrock of her community. She knows hope is like a stubborn ship gripping a dock, a truth 00:03:22.087 --> 00:03:24.574 - that you can't stop a dreamer 00:03:24.802 --> 00:03:34.783 - or knock down a dream. How could this not be her city? Sou Nation, our country, our America, our American 00:03:34.783 --> 00:03:44.293 - lyric to write. A poem by the people, the poor, the Protestant, the Muslim, the Jew, the native, the 00:03:44.293 --> 00:03:54.462 - immigrant, the black, the brown, the blind, the brave, the undocumented and undeterred, the woman, the man, 00:03:54.690 --> 00:04:05.184 - the non-binary, the white, the trans, the ally to all of the above, and more. Tyrants fear the poet. 00:04:05.184 --> 00:04:15.886 - Now that we know it, we can't blow it. We owe it to show it, not slow it, although it hurts to sew it. 00:04:15.886 --> 00:04:24.510 - When the world skirts below it, hope, we must bestow it. Like a wick in the poet's 00:04:25.794 --> 00:04:34.033 - so it can grow, lit, bringing with it stories to rewrite. The story of a Texas city depleted but not 00:04:34.033 --> 00:04:42.516 - defeated, a history written that need not be repeated, a nation composed but not yet completed. There's 00:04:42.516 --> 00:04:50.836 - a poem in this place, a poem in America, a poet in every American who rewrites this nation, who tells 00:04:50.836 --> 00:04:55.486 - a story worthy of being told on this minnow of an earth, 00:04:56.130 --> 00:05:05.467 - to breathe hope into a palimpsest of time, a poet in every American who sees that our poem penned doesn't 00:05:05.467 --> 00:05:14.451 - mean our poems end. There's a place where this poem dwells, it is here, it is now, in the yellow song 00:05:14.451 --> 00:05:23.348 - of dawn's bell, where we write an American lyric we are just beginning to tell. Thank you. Thank you 00:05:23.348 --> 00:05:25.726 - for those beautiful words. 00:05:26.018 --> 00:05:34.701 - Um, any other comments or reports? Oh, I see a council member. Thanks. Thank you. Um, I meant to report 00:05:34.701 --> 00:05:43.049 - this last time, um, but a profoundly important event happened about two weeks ago and it was either 00:05:43.049 --> 00:05:51.565 - missed by the media or it was quickly forgotten. And that is the recent escape of opening eyes model, 00:05:51.565 --> 00:05:54.654 - advanced model, uh, to hugging face. 00:05:55.522 --> 00:06:04.319 - So what happened was advanced autonomous agents broke out of their secure servers, which is called a 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:13.116 - sandbox, and discovered a software flaw and immediately hacked an external real world, in this case, 00:06:13.116 --> 00:06:22.087 - network, and that was hugging face. So they were being tested and they found an unknown vulnerability. 00:06:22.087 --> 00:06:23.742 - They didn't expect 00:06:24.034 --> 00:06:31.931 - to have in the sandbox. And they use that to reach the public internet. Once online, the AI figured 00:06:31.931 --> 00:06:40.382 - out that Hugging Face might hold data or test answers that it needed to complete its task. And it attacked 00:06:40.382 --> 00:06:48.358 - the platform successfully to get a higher score. It used stolen credentials, chained multiple attack 00:06:48.358 --> 00:06:53.886 - vectors together to execute remote code on servers and was successful 00:06:53.986 --> 00:07:01.892 - ultimately. It did the hacking in hours and days that would have taken advanced human hackers weeks 00:07:01.892 --> 00:07:09.798 - to do. So why should we worry about this? This is the loss of control that we've been, that experts 00:07:09.798 --> 00:07:17.941 - have been warning about. It proved that AI, powerful AI can act completely on its own to bypass safety 00:07:17.941 --> 00:07:23.870 - limits when hyper-focused on a specific goal. It demonstrated a real-world 00:07:24.450 --> 00:07:31.856 - threat. That is, instead of staying in a harmless digital test zone, the AI launched a real unauthorized 00:07:31.856 --> 00:07:39.050 - intrusion, which was illegal, by the way, against an outside company. And this is a warning sign that 00:07:39.050 --> 00:07:46.527 - work on models that are, after all, they're meant to explicitly replace people is becoming too dangerous. 00:07:46.527 --> 00:07:53.086 - This is a rush to superhuman intelligence that would very likely be out of anyone's control. 00:07:53.890 --> 00:08:00.871 - In response to this, there has been some Congress people concerned. Congressman Ted Lieu, for instance, 00:08:00.871 --> 00:08:07.784 - from California introduced the bill to require kill switches for these models. But recall that it took 00:08:07.784 --> 00:08:14.832 - humans using AIs, by the way, a week to determine what happened. That is far too late for any meaningful 00:08:14.832 --> 00:08:22.014 - kill switch. So the only reasonable way forward to safeguard our future is a moratorium on the development 00:08:22.114 --> 00:08:30.625 - of artificial super intelligence. AI should forever remain a tool and not be designed to be an agent. 00:08:30.625 --> 00:08:38.970 - And it's up to citizens to take action. Unfortunately, one regretful thing that has happened in our 00:08:38.970 --> 00:08:47.815 - 250 years is corporate capture of regulatory agencies. And unfortunately, the AI companies have dedicated 00:08:47.815 --> 00:08:51.486 - about $200 million a year for this purpose. 00:08:52.130 --> 00:09:01.819 - So it's up to us to contact our representatives and compel them for our own safety to deploy a moratorium 00:09:01.819 --> 00:09:11.507 - on this very dangerous technology. Thank you. Thank you so much, Council Member Arlo. Any other comments, 00:09:11.507 --> 00:09:21.013 - Council Member Stasberg? Thank you. I have a few random bits of things that I wanted to share, so sorry 00:09:21.013 --> 00:09:22.110 - about that. 00:09:22.178 --> 00:09:28.711 - So first, something that I also meant to announce last week. For those of you who are unaware, Lynn 00:09:28.711 --> 00:09:35.505 - Coyne was appointed Interim Director of Planning at the Planning Commission meeting earlier this month. 00:09:35.505 --> 00:09:42.234 - And so that has, in fact, happened. And he has begun that position. And I believe there's an interview 00:09:42.234 --> 00:09:49.290 - with him and the mayor out there in the netherworld somewhere if you want to hear more about him. Secondly, 00:09:49.290 --> 00:09:51.838 - I wanted to announce that on August 8, 00:09:52.066 --> 00:09:58.189 - So that's not this Saturday, it's the next Saturday. I'll be at the farmers market from 9 to 11, just 00:09:58.189 --> 00:10:04.552 - kind of doing a drop-in little meeting. If anybody wants to pop over and say hi, I will be in information 00:10:04.552 --> 00:10:10.854 - row at the Democrats booth during that time. For anybody who has anything they want to talk to me about, 00:10:10.854 --> 00:10:16.977 - I would welcome a discussion both from specific District 3 constituents, but anybody else who happens 00:10:16.977 --> 00:10:18.718 - by and wants to bend my ear. 00:10:18.850 --> 00:10:24.599 - And third, for my colleagues generally, and part of the reason I'm saying this is to say it out loud, 00:10:24.599 --> 00:10:30.517 - because sometimes when you say things out loud, then you make commitments, then you have to fall through 00:10:30.517 --> 00:10:36.266 - on them. Just wanted to give a brief little tidbit about fiscal committee stuff, because last week we 00:10:36.266 --> 00:10:42.014 - heard some extensive stuff from Reedy Financial. Well, but it's not... A committee report technically 00:10:42.014 --> 00:10:43.198 - needs to be written. 00:10:43.618 --> 00:10:51.132 - So I'm committing right now to give you a written committee report and also encouraging you to go back 00:10:51.132 --> 00:10:58.573 - and maybe look at some of that information that Reedy gave to us on Friday. It's very interesting and 00:10:58.573 --> 00:11:06.014 - I'm going to pull some parts of it out just both in terms of our own preparation and also in terms of 00:11:06.014 --> 00:11:07.838 - the consequences of what 00:11:08.002 --> 00:11:15.622 - the state did because there's some more specific numbers out there and then the last thing that I want 00:11:15.622 --> 00:11:23.167 - to mention is a Response you could say to the county commissioners and their public comment last week 00:11:23.167 --> 00:11:31.083 - with regard to a jail location I want to applaud my colleague councilmember Piedmont Smith for her written 00:11:31.083 --> 00:11:34.782 - response to them and I just want to say that that 00:11:34.882 --> 00:11:41.463 - I don't think that there was anything in there that I disagreed with, and so I kind of want to second 00:11:41.463 --> 00:11:48.237 - all of that and very specifically say that, because I've had a few constituents message me about concern 00:11:48.237 --> 00:11:54.302 - for putting a jail there because it had been planned for housing. There were several years of 00:11:54.402 --> 00:12:00.617 - feedback given about what to do with Hopewell and There was not any discussion in there at the time 00:12:00.617 --> 00:12:06.894 - about it being a jail and I think that that would have been a very Appropriate time to bring that up 00:12:06.894 --> 00:12:13.234 - and talk about it when there was still that community discussion around it and at this point it feels 00:12:13.234 --> 00:12:19.573 - Not necessarily too late but especially given that there was a collaborative working group all summer 00:12:19.573 --> 00:12:22.494 - long that the commissioners declined attending 00:12:22.658 --> 00:12:30.957 - It feels a little bit Obtuse perhaps to suddenly come out and suggest something that they could have 00:12:30.957 --> 00:12:39.667 - Participated in a collaborative community discussion about and so to bring it up now just It just doesn't 00:12:39.667 --> 00:12:48.049 - sit very well with me So if you're not sure out there what it is that I'm referring to I would direct 00:12:48.049 --> 00:12:51.582 - you to councilmember Piedmont Smith's very 00:12:51.970 --> 00:13:03.190 - eloquently written public letter. Thank you Do we have anyone we don't have anyone giving a report today 00:13:03.190 --> 00:13:14.196 - from mayor's office wonderful Also, I would love to call on a counselor P1 Smith them to talk a little 00:13:14.196 --> 00:13:19.966 - bit about councils special committee on processes and 00:13:23.394 --> 00:13:31.629 - Well, it's just an informal report since reports actually have to be written. I am told Okay, well this 00:13:31.629 --> 00:13:39.706 - is very relevant to that because So just briefly the committee on council processes met last week and 00:13:39.706 --> 00:13:48.416 - We discussed two small revisions on the membership of two different commissions the Transportation Commission 00:13:48.416 --> 00:13:53.246 - and the Environmental Commission and councilmember Stossberg 00:13:53.378 --> 00:14:02.913 - is taking the lead on that. And I think we'll be presenting the final proposal at our next meeting. 00:14:02.913 --> 00:14:12.544 - And then we have been for our second meeting in a row. We have been going through the municipal code 00:14:12.544 --> 00:14:22.270 - title to the section on the council. We've been going through that paragraph by paragraph to see what 00:14:22.818 --> 00:14:32.104 - could be clarified and what could be perhaps moved to a separate administrative document, rules of procedure 00:14:32.104 --> 00:14:39.857 - document. This work started last year, and so we are continuing an initial review that was 00:14:39.857 --> 00:14:48.547 - done by Councilmember Sari and staff. And maybe we should add to that that we should allow nonwritten 00:14:48.547 --> 00:14:51.358 - reports from council committees. 00:14:51.458 --> 00:14:59.486 - We will get to that. So that's it. Thank you. Thank you so much. Are there any other council committee reports? 00:15:00.098 --> 00:15:06.037 - All right, we'll now move on to a time of public comment. The way that this works, you have three minutes. 00:15:06.037 --> 00:15:11.643 - If you could so kindly sign in, it helps us with keeping of the minutes. And if you could state your 00:15:11.643 --> 00:15:17.249 - name or alias for the record, that would be tremendous. Folks online, you have a button that you can 00:15:17.249 --> 00:15:22.855 - press to raise your hand and we'll acknowledge you in due course. You can comment at either this one 00:15:22.855 --> 00:15:27.518 - or the next one. Is there anyone who would like to comment today at public comment? 00:15:30.434 --> 00:15:37.892 - Seeing none, is there anyone online? Hey, we're zooming through this. That's wonderful. Okay. All right. 00:15:37.892 --> 00:15:45.279 - We have some appointments of boards and commissions. Do we? We don't? Oh, okay. I thought we did. Well, 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:49.470 - hey. None? Oh, okay. I thought we had the one. Okay, fine. 00:15:50.018 --> 00:15:58.877 - All right moving on then. Um, are there any motions? We'll go to legislation for first readings I move 00:15:58.877 --> 00:16:07.564 - that ordinance 2026-16 be introduced and read by the clerk by title and synopsis only please There's 00:16:07.564 --> 00:16:16.252 - a motion in a second any discussion will the clerk please call the roll Stasberg yes, Pete Monsmith. 00:16:16.252 --> 00:16:19.262 - Yes Zoo Lake Yes, sorry. Yes daily 00:16:19.586 --> 00:16:30.541 - Yes, Rollo Yes, Rosenberger. Yes and Flaherty. Yes. Will the clerk please read Ordinance 20 26-16 to 00:16:30.541 --> 00:16:41.713 - amend an ordinance fixing the salaries of officers and employees of the police and fire department for 00:16:41.713 --> 00:16:47.678 - the city of Bloomington, Indiana for the year 2026 the 00:16:49.858 --> 00:17:00.168 - Synopsis is as follows this ordinance amends ordinance 25-38 by adding a lieutenant position within 00:17:00.168 --> 00:17:10.580 - the police department. I Move to discuss ordinance 2026-16 Great is is dr. Paycheck here was a vote. 00:17:10.580 --> 00:17:18.622 - Sorry. I forget Any discussion comes over Sasberg? I guess I'm just wondering 00:17:19.042 --> 00:17:28.389 - As you just said if dr. Paycheck is here and who is gonna present this and if dr. Paycheck isn't oh 00:17:28.389 --> 00:17:38.017 - there she is That answers the question. All right. So with that any other discussion or questions call 00:17:38.017 --> 00:17:47.644 - that to a vote, please All right beat want Smith Yes Zulik. Yes. I'm sorry. Yes daily. Yes, Rallo Yes, 00:17:47.644 --> 00:17:48.766 - Rosenberger 00:17:49.442 --> 00:18:01.372 - Yes, Flaherty Yes, and Stossberg. Yes. Thank you very much. Dr. Paycheck if you'd like to present Well, 00:18:01.372 --> 00:18:13.416 - we're moving fast I got a little sidetracked and I was like, is that me? So I started running down here. 00:18:13.416 --> 00:18:15.710 - Okay sharp paycheck 00:18:16.002 --> 00:18:24.626 - director of human resources Before I Jump into this because I have some a little bit of background that 00:18:24.626 --> 00:18:33.415 - I want to share with you However, it has been called to my attention that there are some typos and errors 00:18:33.415 --> 00:18:38.142 - and transpose numbers in this salary ordinance amendment 00:18:38.594 --> 00:18:45.962 - Because some of those things were called to my attention I know that we need to go back and we need 00:18:45.962 --> 00:18:53.404 - to take like a much closer Look to make sure that we catch any additional errors So I am happy to do 00:18:53.404 --> 00:19:00.772 - that and submit some additional an additional amendment for the second reading But I just wanted to 00:19:00.772 --> 00:19:06.814 - call that out before I share any more details Okay, okay so for this particular I 00:19:07.202 --> 00:19:15.998 - Salary ordinance amendment. I want to give just a little bit of background so you have some context 00:19:15.998 --> 00:19:24.883 - on March 24th of this year HR launched a 2026 mid-year work request and so just so you remember Work 00:19:24.883 --> 00:19:33.943 - is w-e-r-c it's an acronym and it stands for workforce evaluation and realignment committee and so for 00:19:33.943 --> 00:19:35.614 - this mid-year work 00:19:35.874 --> 00:19:45.091 - request process department heads were given the opportunity to submit adjustments for work functions 00:19:45.091 --> 00:19:54.583 - actual position functions including changes in job duties and reporting relationships and also how work 00:19:54.583 --> 00:20:04.074 - was distributed either across the Department or within a division and so the goal of this mid-year work 00:20:04.074 --> 00:20:05.534 - request process 00:20:05.954 --> 00:20:16.290 - Was to give department has the opportunity to address any operational misalignments and also to help 00:20:16.290 --> 00:20:26.830 - improve efficiency and support departmental priorities so all of these requests had to be Aligned with 00:20:26.830 --> 00:20:32.254 - using existing financial resources so they had to be 00:20:32.386 --> 00:20:41.637 - Reviewed and confirmed by the office of the controller that they were either cost neutral or they reduce 00:20:41.637 --> 00:20:51.065 - cost and that no additional funding would need to be allocated in order to support the request the request 00:20:51.065 --> 00:21:00.052 - can only be submitted by Department heads and those requests had to be submitted by April the 7th and 00:21:00.052 --> 00:21:01.374 - so since those 00:21:01.570 --> 00:21:09.040 - Requests have been received HR has been working with the office of the controller To review those requests 00:21:09.040 --> 00:21:16.161 - and of those we received the ones that you see presented today if they had an effect of on the salary 00:21:16.161 --> 00:21:23.701 - ordinance Those are the ones that are presented today. So specifically for this particular salary ordinance 00:21:23.701 --> 00:21:24.958 - for public safety 00:21:25.090 --> 00:21:32.641 - The police department was the only one who submitted a work request and it came from chief D cough He 00:21:32.641 --> 00:21:40.562 - requested to add a fifth lieutenant Details regarding this request are outlined in the memo, but basically 00:21:40.562 --> 00:21:48.632 - per chief D cough The purpose of adding the fifth lieutenant is to help improve management of the department 00:21:48.632 --> 00:21:54.110 - with additional support for administrative functions such as training and 00:21:54.242 --> 00:22:04.299 - recruitment and supervision and there is a estimated fiscal impact for this request of Just over $19,000 00:22:04.299 --> 00:22:14.738 - and this request though is budget neutral Because it will be covered by Existing vacancies. So no additional 00:22:14.738 --> 00:22:23.358 - headcount has been requested for this. So it was approved as a budget neutral request and 00:22:23.906 --> 00:22:33.539 - So that is a little bit of background for this salary amendment and a lot of these details Relate to 00:22:33.539 --> 00:22:43.172 - the next one up to but I'm happy to answer any questions Thank you so much, that's your paycheck any 00:22:43.172 --> 00:22:52.805 - questions counselor Puma Smith Yes, thank you for putting that in context dr paycheck sir So you say 00:22:52.805 --> 00:22:53.854 - there's no 00:22:54.754 --> 00:23:02.391 - Fiscal impact but perhaps for this year and I understand, you know funds are available for creating 00:23:02.391 --> 00:23:10.257 - this a position this year, but in the future Years, there will be a fiscal impact because we will have 00:23:10.257 --> 00:23:18.047 - an additional position to fund. Sure at a significant salary. So I Guess I'm wondering why that's not 00:23:18.047 --> 00:23:22.782 - wasn't considered fiscal impact in your memo Yeah, if I could 00:23:23.586 --> 00:23:31.671 - my colleague the controller to speak since he Helped evaluate the request based on fiscal impact. Are 00:23:31.671 --> 00:23:39.676 - you okay? Jeff McKim City Controller good evening council and thanks for your question Councilmember 00:23:39.676 --> 00:23:47.681 - Piedmont Smith first of all, I want to clarify something that this is not a Completely new position. 00:23:47.681 --> 00:23:53.150 - This is replacement of a sergeant with lieutenant. So it's not a new 00:23:53.474 --> 00:24:02.896 - Increased headcount not a new human being it's it's the conversion of a sergeant position to a lieutenant 00:24:02.896 --> 00:24:11.963 - position and overall the the fiscal impact is That the the fifth the figure that is given in the memo 00:24:11.963 --> 00:24:21.118 - a little bit over $19,000 would be for a full year. So actually for this year, it's it's approximately 00:24:21.250 --> 00:24:28.579 - seven thousand six hundred and eighty two dollars and the standard we did use is The fiscal impact for 00:24:28.579 --> 00:24:36.122 - this year. So is it something that had that would require additional resources this year? You are correct 00:24:36.122 --> 00:24:43.380 - that if next year the Police department were fully staffed Which I hope they are they are not at this 00:24:43.380 --> 00:24:47.934 - point if they were fully staffed it would have an approximately 00:24:48.130 --> 00:24:56.240 - 19 I'm $20,000 fiscal impact on the next year and next year's budget. Does that answer your question? 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:04.429 - Yes, it was not clear from the memo that this was converting a sergeant position Okay. Yes, it is does 00:25:04.429 --> 00:25:12.778 - make me feel a little better about the fiscal impact. Yeah, it is not adding a new headcount Okay. Thank 00:25:12.778 --> 00:25:14.686 - you counselor Stossberg 00:25:15.586 --> 00:25:22.896 - Thank you. I also had that question So thank you to once again to councilmember Piedmont Smith for asking 00:25:22.896 --> 00:25:29.930 - that but the the thing that I did was was I compared Our original packet last October and it lists 13 00:25:29.930 --> 00:25:36.965 - Sergeants last October and then this one today still lists 13 Sergeants as opposed to dropping one of 00:25:36.965 --> 00:25:42.206 - those sergeants down and picking up a lieutenant. So is that like shouldn't 00:25:42.754 --> 00:25:51.363 - It lists now 12 sergeants with five lieutenants in order to actually be Like person neutral. I believe 00:25:51.363 --> 00:25:59.805 - that that's that the preview and and perhaps Sharkin can help me out on this one, but I believe that 00:25:59.805 --> 00:26:07.411 - that was actually a typo in the last Not the current but the the previous salary ordinance 00:26:07.411 --> 00:26:12.510 - That is information that I I really would like to be able to 00:26:12.930 --> 00:26:20.261 - Confirmed for you. So I need to go back and I need to have a conversation with D cough to confirm it 00:26:20.261 --> 00:26:27.519 - Because even when I talked to him earlier today, we had a conversation on if there were actually 13 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:35.140 - or 14 lieutenants, so Sergeant sergeants, I'm sorry sergeants 13 or 14 sergeants. So let me just confirm 00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:41.310 - that And then that way I can come back and make sure that the numbers are accurate I 00:26:42.690 --> 00:26:50.060 - I agree with the controller the way that Chief explained it is that it would be no more headcount and 00:26:50.060 --> 00:26:57.502 - that they would promote internally So if we do have to update the sergeant count to reflect accurately 00:26:57.502 --> 00:27:04.800 - in the salary ordinance, then we'll do that Okay, great. I would I would appreciate that. Thank you. 00:27:04.800 --> 00:27:10.942 - Yeah, sure customer umbrella Thanks, I'm a little curious about for city our size or 00:27:11.490 --> 00:27:18.853 - police force are sized. Is that a typical number? Five lieutenants or 13 to 14 sergeants? Is this a 00:27:18.853 --> 00:27:26.216 - hierarchy that is equivalent compared to other cities our size? I have never done that research, so 00:27:26.216 --> 00:27:33.947 - I don't know the answer to that question. I am happy to do it, but I just haven't done it to this point. 00:27:33.947 --> 00:27:41.310 - Do you know? No, and it also sounds like something the chief might be able to provide some input to 00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:52.736 - Okay, maybe another question I have to is are the duties equivalent between forces I Mean do the lieutenants 00:27:52.736 --> 00:27:57.950 - do the same thing in other other municipalities? Yeah 00:28:00.962 --> 00:28:08.041 - say we have done just a little bit of research related to that when we were looking at the lieutenant 00:28:08.041 --> 00:28:15.189 - position description to make sure it was classified correctly. So I will say that I do feel like there 00:28:15.189 --> 00:28:22.406 - are some similarities, maybe not exactly the same, but some similarities. So I can actually say we have 00:28:22.406 --> 00:28:29.415 - done some research related to that. Okay. You know what I'm getting at? Some organizations get a bit 00:28:29.415 --> 00:28:30.942 - top-heavy in a sense? 00:28:31.362 --> 00:28:40.397 - I'm just curious about the structure and whether we're sort of within a sort of a Normal. Yeah Some 00:28:40.397 --> 00:28:49.883 - of the duties and the scope of the roles are similar with other municipalities I just don't know related 00:28:49.883 --> 00:28:58.014 - to the actual numbers in a in a division in an org chart Thank you Councilmember Flaherty 00:29:01.922 --> 00:29:08.401 - I guess The the instructions to department heads in consideration was that there any proposed changes 00:29:08.401 --> 00:29:14.753 - in position would need to be budget neutral Is that right? Yes Do you feel like they all understood 00:29:14.753 --> 00:29:21.168 - that that only meant this year and that they could propose a change that would increase their budget 00:29:21.168 --> 00:29:27.774 - in the future for future years relative to no change in the position because it sounds like that's like 00:29:28.130 --> 00:29:33.574 - What is allowed is or at least what the administration allowed for the for the police department and 00:29:33.574 --> 00:29:39.126 - it surprises me that no one else No other departments like proposed anything and I wonder if there was 00:29:39.126 --> 00:29:44.894 - a common understanding. What are your thoughts? I do feel like there was a I Feel like it was communicated 00:29:45.570 --> 00:29:53.881 - on multiple occasions. How it was actually received and processed, I can't speak for other department 00:29:53.881 --> 00:30:02.354 - heads. I know that my call for it went out in email. We had a pretty lengthy period where anybody could 00:30:02.354 --> 00:30:09.769 - have asked me follow-up questions. We also, Jeff and I, partnered to reiterate the process 00:30:09.769 --> 00:30:13.598 - and the expectations during a cabinet meeting. 00:30:13.794 --> 00:30:21.457 - I submitted a request, and I was pretty clear on the process. So I can say that it was communicated 00:30:21.457 --> 00:30:26.974 - multiple times. How it was actually received, I do not know, aside from 00:30:27.202 --> 00:30:33.542 - the controller and myself, I also feel like Deputy Mayor Knapp was very clear that this would not be 00:30:33.542 --> 00:30:39.882 - an opportunity for you to say that you had money available this year or you reduced funding to cover 00:30:39.882 --> 00:30:46.222 - this request this year, and then next year or the following years, ask for the money back. So I feel 00:30:46.222 --> 00:30:52.563 - like she was very clear in that communication as well. So these, I feel, are changes that we felt we 00:30:52.563 --> 00:30:56.894 - wanted to request to best support the operations and our priorities. 00:30:56.994 --> 00:31:02.316 - for more of like long-term gains. A brief follow-up, if that's okay, which is, did you say that you 00:31:02.316 --> 00:31:07.639 - submitted a request, but that's not coming to us? So maybe I was misunderstanding to you. I thought 00:31:07.639 --> 00:31:13.121 - I understood your earlier remarks to be that only the police department submitted a request, but maybe 00:31:13.121 --> 00:31:18.443 - there were others that didn't. For the public safety... Oh, yeah, that's right. ...solar ordinance, 00:31:18.443 --> 00:31:23.766 - so next will be Civil City. Sorry, yes, yes. Yes, okay. Completing ordinances. Thank you. Any other 00:31:23.766 --> 00:31:24.990 - questions, colleagues? 00:31:29.282 --> 00:31:37.726 - All right, I'm seeing none. Are there any discussion points or motions? Oh, yeah, we can do that. Yeah, 00:31:37.726 --> 00:31:46.088 - sorry. Is anybody who'd like to make public comment at this time about this ordinance? Is there anyone 00:31:46.088 --> 00:31:55.262 - online who'd like to make public comment? Okay, back to colleagues. Any final comments, Council Member Stosberg? 00:31:56.002 --> 00:32:02.848 - I guess I would just like to second the interest in more information next week when we hear this second 00:32:02.848 --> 00:32:10.090 - reading both about what I had brought up with the 13 sergeants and and that thing but also what councilmember 00:32:10.090 --> 00:32:16.936 - Rallo was asking about Departments our size and leadership and concern was being top-heavy so if that's 00:32:16.936 --> 00:32:22.334 - something that either director paycheck could look into or if chief de Koff would 00:32:22.498 --> 00:32:28.513 - Be able to provide those answers. I would appreciate that for next week. Thanks And and I actually would 00:32:28.513 --> 00:32:34.414 - like to add to that just for for next week as we do the amendments I'd be interested because we've had 00:32:34.414 --> 00:32:40.372 - been having conversations about staffing of police Workload of police and so I think it would be really 00:32:40.372 --> 00:32:46.846 - helpful to understand I mean if you're shifting the workload from sort of in the field to in the office You know 00:32:47.010 --> 00:32:53.446 - what the sort of assumptions that are being made here about how that affects the rest of the force, 00:32:53.446 --> 00:32:59.881 - because that, to me, feels contradictory to the information that we have been receiving about where 00:32:59.881 --> 00:33:05.995 - the stresses are on the police, especially at their current staffing. So I would be interested 00:33:05.995 --> 00:33:12.752 - in understanding what's then shifting to be covered in the other direction as well. Excellent. Any other 00:33:12.752 --> 00:33:15.198 - things? Great. Are there any motions? 00:33:15.586 --> 00:33:26.076 - Moved to send this to second reading on August 5th All right. Do we need to vote on that? Okay. Good. 00:33:26.076 --> 00:33:36.463 - Could the clerk please call the roll? Sorry, yes daily. Yes Rallo Yes Rosenberger. Yes Flaherty. Yes 00:33:36.463 --> 00:33:40.062 - Stossburg. Yes, Pete Monsmith. Yes 00:33:41.858 --> 00:33:52.057 - Thank you very much. We will discuss that again next week Moving on I Move that ordinance 2026 dash 00:33:52.057 --> 00:34:02.561 - 17 be introduced and read by the clerk by title and synopsis only Great many discussion Will the clerk 00:34:02.561 --> 00:34:11.230 - please call the roll? I'm sorry. Yes daily. Yes Rallo Yes, Rosenberger Yes, Flaherty 00:34:11.490 --> 00:34:20.311 - Yes, Stasberg. Yes, Piedmont Smith and Zulik. Yes. Thank you. Will the clerks please read Ordinance 00:34:20.311 --> 00:34:29.309 - 2026 dash 17 Which amends the 2026 salary ordinance adopted officers non-union and ASPE employees for 00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:38.219 - all the departments of the city of Bloomington Monroe County, Indiana for the year 2026 the synopsis 00:34:38.219 --> 00:34:39.454 - is as follows 00:34:41.154 --> 00:34:52.438 - Ordinance 2026-17 amends the 2026 appointed and asks me employee salary ordinance to incorporate updates 00:34:52.438 --> 00:35:03.184 - to certain civil city positions. I move to discuss ordinance 2026-17. Any discussion on the motion? 00:35:03.184 --> 00:35:10.814 - All right. Will the clerk please call the roll? Daly? Yes. Rollo? Yes. 00:35:11.138 --> 00:35:24.249 - Rosenberger? Yes. Flaherty? Yes. Stasberg? Yes. Piedmont-Smith? Yes. Zulek? Yes. And Asari? Yes. Okay. 00:35:24.249 --> 00:35:36.214 - All right. Director Pichak. Okay. Sharpe Pichak, Director of Human Resources. Hi. Two things. 00:35:36.214 --> 00:35:40.542 - Number one, we also received some 00:35:40.834 --> 00:35:48.071 - Feedback that there are a couple of typos in this salary ordinance as well I'll take a proofreader on 00:35:48.071 --> 00:35:55.521 - the HR staff if you want to prove that at some point But so we so we will come back with some additional 00:35:55.521 --> 00:36:02.759 - amendments they are small typos that I think have been carried over but we need to Read a little more 00:36:02.759 --> 00:36:06.590 - closely. So those are forthcoming the second thing is 00:36:06.754 --> 00:36:15.516 - The context that I provided for the 2026 mid-year work request. Department heads could submit them. 00:36:15.516 --> 00:36:24.629 - The request had to be neutral. Same thing will apply to this salary ordinance. Okay? All right. So this 00:36:24.629 --> 00:36:33.391 - is the 2026 mid-year work request for civil city positions, basically. For this call, we received a 00:36:33.391 --> 00:36:35.582 - total of eight requests. 00:36:35.778 --> 00:36:40.446 - that actually pertain to the salary ordinance. So there were others, but they weren't. 00:36:40.706 --> 00:36:46.664 - changes that needed to be addressed in the salary ordinance. So those eight requests came from three 00:36:46.664 --> 00:36:52.681 - different departments, utilities, human resources, and public works. So I'll give you a little bit of 00:36:52.681 --> 00:36:59.110 - insight on each one of those, and potentially my colleagues from utilities and public works may be available 00:36:59.110 --> 00:37:05.422 - virtually if you have specific questions, but if not, I'll just bring back answers for the second reading. 00:37:05.422 --> 00:37:10.672 - Okay, so this first request, real quick, was from the utilities department to reorganize 00:37:10.672 --> 00:37:20.224 - the environmental program coordinator position from the engineering division to the environmental division 00:37:20.224 --> 00:37:29.687 - I guess it just made more sense to better align this position the title the scope of work in the division 00:37:29.687 --> 00:37:32.990 - where the director felt was the best 00:37:33.186 --> 00:37:41.284 - fit in order to help with regulatory compliance and responsibilities and day-to-day operations. This 00:37:41.284 --> 00:37:49.782 - particular request is just a change of division. It has no fiscal impact, but the salary ordinance needed 00:37:49.782 --> 00:37:57.960 - to be amended to reflect this change in the division. The second request that came from the utilities 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.766 - department as well was to reduce a 00:38:00.930 --> 00:38:09.372 - vacant customer relations rep position Reducing it from full-time to part-time. So apparently the utilities 00:38:09.372 --> 00:38:17.345 - director didn't feel like this needed to be an actual FTE a full-time position in order to still meet 00:38:17.345 --> 00:38:25.475 - the service needs But also have enough coverage for operations, especially during peak seasons. So this 00:38:25.475 --> 00:38:27.038 - particular quest is 00:38:27.362 --> 00:38:35.638 - Request actually reflects a budget reduction of about $32,000, and that reduction reflects both the 00:38:35.638 --> 00:38:44.327 - decrease in pay and compensation and also in benefits, since this position will be reduced from 40 hours 00:38:44.327 --> 00:38:52.851 - to not more than 29 hours, which is a position that is not eligible for benefits, hence the additional 00:38:52.851 --> 00:38:55.582 - savings. Request three and four. 00:38:55.682 --> 00:39:04.104 - are also from the utilities director and they are related. The utilities director asked us to look at 00:39:04.104 --> 00:39:12.855 - the assistant GIS coordinator position and also the GIS coordinator positions. And the utilities director 00:39:12.855 --> 00:39:20.286 - wanted these positions reviewed to see if they should be reclassified for a higher grade. 00:39:20.482 --> 00:39:29.003 - This this request was handled a little deeper dive from human resources because we had to consider GIS 00:39:29.003 --> 00:39:37.524 - positions that are both in ITS and also in utilities to evaluate them to see how the scope of work and 00:39:37.524 --> 00:39:46.128 - the skills and the education Aligned with other positions that are out in the market, but also how they 00:39:46.128 --> 00:39:47.038 - aligned in 00:39:47.202 --> 00:39:55.738 - internally. So we did that research. We partnered and had communications with department heads, and 00:39:55.738 --> 00:40:04.956 - we also collected some data from incumbents that were actually in those GIS positions in ITS and utilities. 00:40:04.956 --> 00:40:12.638 - Based on that, what I feel was a pretty comprehensive process, HR does recommend that the 00:40:12.834 --> 00:40:25.048 - Request is approved for the assistant GIS coordinator in utilities to go from a grade 6 to a grade 8 00:40:25.048 --> 00:40:37.867 - and also the GIS coordinator position In utilities go from a grade 8 to a grade 10. So those are requests 00:40:37.867 --> 00:40:40.286 - 3 & 4 For request 5 00:40:40.834 --> 00:40:50.732 - This comes from Human Resources. So I requested to reclassify a current position with an incumbent of 00:40:50.732 --> 00:40:58.398 - our HR talent coordinator in a grade five to be reclassified to a grade seven. 00:40:59.042 --> 00:41:07.342 - The reason why I requested this is because I've had a strategic goal to enhance the services that we 00:41:07.342 --> 00:41:15.723 - provide for talent. So that includes all of our recruitment, our selection, our candidate evaluation, 00:41:15.723 --> 00:41:18.846 - all of our employee relations events. 00:41:18.978 --> 00:41:26.084 - job descriptions that we have and just being able to provide some additional support services to Departments 00:41:26.084 --> 00:41:32.669 - like utilities that have asked me employees that require a little bit more support So this is just a 00:41:32.669 --> 00:41:38.863 - way to recognize what the current talent coordinator is doing which are some additional duties 00:41:38.863 --> 00:41:43.166 - and responsibilities but then better align with the strategic and 00:41:43.362 --> 00:41:52.231 - The strategic vision that I have for how we will provide talent services here at the city and so our 00:41:52.231 --> 00:42:00.222 - director of classification and compensation looked at this and agreed that this would be a 00:42:00.514 --> 00:42:08.246 - Approve requests in order to reclassify that HR talent coordinator position to a talent acquisition 00:42:08.246 --> 00:42:16.133 - specialist This particular request for human resources does have an estimated fiscal impact of 22,000 00:42:16.133 --> 00:42:23.710 - just over $22,000 and so this is a budget neutral request for human resources because I will have 00:42:23.810 --> 00:42:31.971 - some nominal savings from category one, potentially for vacancies in category one. But I also have some 00:42:31.971 --> 00:42:40.054 - funding that I will save from category three, which covers our consulting services, because as you may 00:42:40.054 --> 00:42:48.058 - remember, we had a lot of special projects and consultants that came in to help us with a lot of this 00:42:48.058 --> 00:42:53.630 - work in human resources, and now we will be able to bring it in-house. 00:42:53.858 --> 00:43:00.923 - More internal, more specialized, and we have basically like internal institutional knowledge in order 00:43:00.923 --> 00:43:03.486 - to do that work. Request number six. 00:43:04.354 --> 00:43:13.710 - Also from human resources This one has no fiscal impact. It is a request for a title change only We 00:43:13.710 --> 00:43:23.253 - currently in human resources have a position that is titled payroll coordinator We actually do not do 00:43:23.253 --> 00:43:27.838 - payroll in human resources what we do Related to 00:43:28.002 --> 00:43:36.142 - actions in human resources is make sure that all of the compensation and benefits information is Entered 00:43:36.142 --> 00:43:44.126 - correctly into the systems so that office of the controller can process payroll So I want to make sure 00:43:44.126 --> 00:43:52.034 - that that position in human resources actually reflects that work and the services that we provide so 00:43:52.034 --> 00:43:57.150 - I requested to retitle the payroll coordinator position to HR I s 00:43:57.538 --> 00:44:04.873 - or Human Resources Information Systems Coordinator. This is especially important to me because I have 00:44:04.873 --> 00:44:12.209 - a goal in 2027 to implement a new HRIS system. So I want to make sure that I have a person internally 00:44:12.209 --> 00:44:19.472 - that will specialize and focus on helping to make sure that that system is implemented. The last two 00:44:19.472 --> 00:44:21.054 - are actually related. 00:44:21.154 --> 00:44:30.270 - Request number seven and number eight came from public works number seven was a request from the director 00:44:30.270 --> 00:44:39.214 - of public works to reorganize the downtown specialist positions from reporting to the in the facilities 00:44:39.214 --> 00:44:44.030 - division to the administration division so number seven 00:44:44.162 --> 00:44:51.642 - really has no fiscal impact. It is just a division change. However, it does relate to request number 00:44:51.642 --> 00:44:59.196 - eight. And request number eight is to reclassify the special projects and operations manager position 00:44:59.196 --> 00:45:01.566 - from grade eight to grade nine. 00:45:01.698 --> 00:45:10.736 - so in addition to Officially having those downtown specialist positions report to that position downtown 00:45:10.736 --> 00:45:19.430 - the Special special projects and operations manager position. There are other additional duties that 00:45:19.430 --> 00:45:22.270 - this role has acquired including 00:45:22.594 --> 00:45:29.877 - Level of responsibilities related to downtown specialists and expanded responsibilities So with this 00:45:29.877 --> 00:45:37.666 - additional scope of work and super super supervisory responsibilities Looking at other comparable positions 00:45:37.666 --> 00:45:45.093 - within the city We do feel like this request should be approved to reclassify the special projects and 00:45:45.093 --> 00:45:50.718 - operations manager position and public safety from a grade 8 to a grade 9 and 00:45:50.946 --> 00:45:58.544 - The estimated fiscal impact for this position is this request is a little over eleven thousand dollars 00:45:58.544 --> 00:46:05.921 - This cost will be absorbed through existing departmental appropriations The increase will be funded 00:46:05.921 --> 00:46:13.593 - by reducing contractual temporary services and if those savings are insufficient to cover the full cost 00:46:13.593 --> 00:46:15.806 - the department will request a 00:46:16.162 --> 00:46:28.301 - Transfer of funds again from category three to category one during year-end appropriations Very much 00:46:28.301 --> 00:46:39.358 - questions that's more P. Smith then Stasper Yes, since we do have several requests well two 00:46:39.490 --> 00:46:46.150 - From I think from your own department. I wanted to check who who serves on the work committee Is it 00:46:46.150 --> 00:46:52.876 - people from just from HR from other departments? Um, so in general it is just from HR in partnership 00:46:52.876 --> 00:46:59.668 - with the office of the controller So within human resources the primary individuals that serve on the 00:46:59.668 --> 00:47:05.662 - work committee are Kelsey Carmichael she is our director of compensation and benefits and 00:47:05.986 --> 00:47:15.678 - Kelsey Carmichael. Also on that committee is Kate Scales who is our talent and engagement manager. 00:47:15.810 --> 00:47:23.227 - Would not normally be directly involved with this process. However, Kelsey Carmichael is fairly new 00:47:23.227 --> 00:47:31.089 - This was her first work process. So I was a little bit more engaged than I normally would be so HR serves 00:47:31.089 --> 00:47:37.022 - in the capacity of looking at the request to make sure that they make sense and 00:47:37.186 --> 00:47:43.821 - For the department and also for the city overall and for the priorities of the city and then again We 00:47:43.821 --> 00:47:50.520 - partner with the office of the controller so that they can look at the fiscal Estimated fiscal impacts 00:47:50.520 --> 00:47:57.676 - to make a recommendation on if they it should be approved or not. So human resources office of the controller 00:47:57.676 --> 00:48:04.310 - Off to the mayor if we have requests that need their review and feedback as well But primarily HR and 00:48:04.310 --> 00:48:06.782 - office of the controller. I See, okay 00:48:07.170 --> 00:48:19.408 - I have another question, but I can wait. So one of the changes you propose is a change in title to HR 00:48:19.408 --> 00:48:31.646 - IS coordinator is HR is human resources information systems. Is that a general word for software that 00:48:31.646 --> 00:48:34.046 - HR departments use? 00:48:34.178 --> 00:48:42.460 - Or is it a specific system is in it's a It's broad in general so it could be a variation of different 00:48:42.460 --> 00:48:50.823 - types of HR systems Yeah, so it's just a broad title. Okay. I just didn't want to tie us to a specific 00:48:50.823 --> 00:48:58.942 - software with a job No, no, no, it would be very broad. So whatever we go with they would have some 00:48:59.074 --> 00:49:09.784 - Leading responsibilities to make sure that that system can be implemented and that all the data Ensuring 00:49:09.784 --> 00:49:13.150 - data integrity as well Thank you 00:49:13.282 --> 00:49:21.274 - Have a couple of questions my first one in the beginning of this part of your presentation You mentioned 00:49:21.274 --> 00:49:28.961 - that there were eight total requests But then it sounded like there were some of those requests that 00:49:28.961 --> 00:49:36.649 - we weren't seeing but then there's eight actual asks on here So, can you clarify? Yeah so there were 00:49:36.649 --> 00:49:39.998 - I want to say that maybe there were like 12 00:49:40.674 --> 00:49:47.397 - Request but for example some of them could have been like for example off the top of my head like two 00:49:47.397 --> 00:49:54.120 - of them were for part-time positions for example and Part-time positions are not listed in the salary 00:49:54.120 --> 00:50:01.172 - ordinance So they were still requests that we received and we processed but you don't see those additional 00:50:01.172 --> 00:50:05.918 - two for example because they don't affect the salary ordinance Okay, so 00:50:06.754 --> 00:50:13.462 - So they're either miss heard or you miss it. So there were 12 total and we're seeing eight of them and 00:50:13.462 --> 00:50:20.300 - I I think there were 12 I'd have to go back to confirm the exact amount but I think there were 12, okay, 00:50:20.300 --> 00:50:26.813 - but only eight of them were Affected by the salary ordinance. Okay, and are there any that are like 00:50:26.813 --> 00:50:33.521 - pending or outstanding still? No, unless I miss them. No I'll expect that you didn't miss them because 00:50:33.521 --> 00:50:36.126 - you know what? I don't know my email is 00:50:36.610 --> 00:50:45.134 - Interesting, but I don't they would they would follow up with me right if we miss something. Yes Okay, 00:50:45.134 --> 00:50:53.410 - I have another couple of questions that okay. Okay, so in terms of number five I Guess the question 00:50:53.410 --> 00:51:01.934 - that I have it sounded kind of like there's somebody in this position currently that is doing more you 00:51:01.934 --> 00:51:04.830 - can say than their job description 00:51:05.122 --> 00:51:11.669 - Asked them to do or currently says they're doing and I guess the question is is that kind of an? Expectation 00:51:11.669 --> 00:51:17.735 - that you would have moving forward in terms of this position So if that person were to leave and you 00:51:17.735 --> 00:51:23.200 - were to hire somebody new Would you need or expect that new person to fulfill all of those 00:51:23.200 --> 00:51:29.086 - same? Responsibilities or as part of this just like the existing person is just like super good I 00:51:29.378 --> 00:51:36.758 - The existing person is super good. However, I have been trying to advance talent services for the past 00:51:36.758 --> 00:51:43.994 - two years, and this is the strategic direction that I would want to go. So if not for this employee, 00:51:43.994 --> 00:51:51.230 - anybody else who would come in to backfill this position, hopefully that wouldn't happen. But if so, 00:51:51.230 --> 00:51:58.466 - then yes, I would have the same expectations that they function at the level of a talent acquisition 00:51:58.466 --> 00:51:59.326 - specialist. 00:52:00.258 --> 00:52:06.600 - and Then the other question I have is one that I'm not sure that you'll be able to answer but might 00:52:06.600 --> 00:52:12.941 - be one that's Director Wason needs to needs to fill us in with next time. I can call a friend Yeah, 00:52:12.941 --> 00:52:19.283 - yeah, maybe I don't know if anybody is online who can answer this but in terms of that Shift in the 00:52:19.283 --> 00:52:25.625 - downtown specialist position and who they're going to report to I guess the question that I have is 00:52:25.625 --> 00:52:28.542 - currently they are reporting to somebody so I 00:52:28.706 --> 00:52:36.243 - that somebody is then losing a piece of what their responsibility is. So I guess the question is, does 00:52:36.243 --> 00:52:42.902 - there need to be a similar reevaluation for that, or is that person picking up a different 00:52:42.902 --> 00:52:50.731 - set of responsibilities, kind of with the overall kind of question of how is this gonna ultimately benefit 00:52:50.731 --> 00:52:52.414 - Bloomington residents? 00:52:52.706 --> 00:52:59.521 - Bloomington operations in terms of public works. And I see that it looks like Director Wason just popped 00:52:59.521 --> 00:53:06.207 - on maybe to answer that question. Hello, folks. I hope my audio is coming through. Am I good? Perfect. 00:53:06.207 --> 00:53:12.957 - Thank you, Isaac. Yeah. So to your question, Council Member Stossberg, this has been actually something 00:53:12.957 --> 00:53:19.902 - that's been shifting for quite a few years in the sense that the facilities division has always hosted the 00:53:20.002 --> 00:53:26.714 - downtown specialists as part of their organizational chart. Our facilities division's really focused 00:53:26.714 --> 00:53:33.359 - on buildings and the grounds around City Hall, et cetera. And whereas Public Works Administration's 00:53:33.359 --> 00:53:40.336 - very involved in the downtown from a day-to-day activities perspective. So when the downtown specialists 00:53:40.336 --> 00:53:47.115 - were originally proposed in Public Works, I think in, oh gosh, at least 15 years ago, facilities kind 00:53:47.115 --> 00:53:49.374 - of made sense then, but as we've, 00:53:49.538 --> 00:53:55.686 - really in public works, gotten more involved in the day to day of the downtown with the special projects 00:53:55.686 --> 00:54:02.068 - and operations manager and all their involvement with the downtown Bloomington Inc, the Chamber of Commerce, 00:54:02.068 --> 00:54:08.099 - KCA, all the different variety of things. We're doing a lot more downtown in the last five plus years. 00:54:08.099 --> 00:54:13.310 - And so this is just a realignment of those to just better meet our organizational needs. 00:54:13.602 --> 00:54:20.490 - Our facilities division has also been growing in responsibility and such. You know, they've, I think, 00:54:20.490 --> 00:54:27.244 - obviously have taken on different property acquisitions to help manage over the last several years, 00:54:27.244 --> 00:54:34.064 - et cetera. So this is just really a realignment to better position the downtown specialists to where 00:54:34.064 --> 00:54:35.550 - they actually report. 00:54:38.274 --> 00:54:44.774 - Okay. Thank you. So basically the answer is who they're reporting to now. They have already picked up 00:54:44.774 --> 00:54:51.401 - additional responsibilities over the last few years. And so they wouldn't be picking up more additional 00:54:51.401 --> 00:54:57.773 - responsibilities. They're just shedding some that don't make as much sense anymore. And you know, I 00:54:57.773 --> 00:55:01.150 - don't want to, it's also a little bit of post COVID. 00:55:01.314 --> 00:55:08.206 - Honestly where all the downtown events and things are, you know picking back up over the last several 00:55:08.206 --> 00:55:15.099 - years And it's just a matter of trying how we really manage our public right away with those staff as 00:55:15.099 --> 00:55:22.396 - well Okay, thank you. I think those are all my questions. Thank you so much other councilmembers Councilman 00:55:22.396 --> 00:55:29.694 - Smith Sorry while mr. Weissen is still here I wanted to follow up on councilmember Stossberg's question and 00:55:30.338 --> 00:55:37.745 - because I'm not sure I understand the answer or have gotten the answer. So the person in facilities 00:55:37.745 --> 00:55:45.301 - who was supervising the downtown specialists is now going to have fewer responsibilities because that 00:55:45.301 --> 00:55:52.782 - person is no longer supervising the downtown specialists. So I guess my concern is that we then have 00:55:52.782 --> 00:55:58.782 - somebody who has fewer responsibilities but we're not downgrading that position. 00:55:59.202 --> 00:56:06.770 - Not that I wanna congratulate anybody, but. So JD Boroff is currently our director of facilities operations, 00:56:06.770 --> 00:56:14.130 - and JD, if any of y'all have met him, has a wide-ranging load of responsibilities for all city facilities 00:56:14.130 --> 00:56:21.351 - that are non-parks and recreation. So as that has grown over time with the acquisition of West Showers, 00:56:21.351 --> 00:56:22.462 - College Square, 00:56:22.722 --> 00:56:29.055 - 627 North Morton responsibilities with the mill and coordinating all of their capital needs and such. 00:56:29.055 --> 00:56:35.326 - That position has not taken on less responsibility by any means it's taken on more and more and this 00:56:35.326 --> 00:56:41.535 - is just Public Works is a very large organization as you all know and this is more of just shifting 00:56:41.535 --> 00:56:47.806 - of responsibilities across divisions and in the department to better align with where we're actually 00:56:48.482 --> 00:56:54.989 - where the operations are actually happening. So the position that this reports to, the Special Projects 00:56:54.989 --> 00:57:01.371 - and Operations Manager, I'll just use the name of the current employee, that's Cassie Werney. For any 00:57:01.371 --> 00:57:07.752 - of you all that attend any of the downtown meetings or anything else, the downtown specialists really 00:57:07.752 --> 00:57:14.071 - work closely with Cassie to be the liaison to the entire downtown. And so this is just a realignment 00:57:14.071 --> 00:57:16.574 - to really, to that approach. Thank you. 00:57:18.754 --> 00:57:23.742 - I had a quick question if nobody else. So we often... 00:57:24.994 --> 00:57:31.746 - It's helped me understand something because we're talking about this in a silo and then but this exists 00:57:31.746 --> 00:57:38.498 - within a system Not just that I'm not talking about public all of these requests And so the two systems 00:57:38.498 --> 00:57:45.120 - that I'm trying to understand our first, you know, we're about to have Budget meetings, I know in the 00:57:45.120 --> 00:57:51.872 - budget memos that went out everybody was asked to you know, certainly not raise any any cost and I know 00:57:51.872 --> 00:57:54.014 - that there's been discussions on 00:57:54.146 --> 00:58:02.628 - trying to figure out ways that we cut costs. And so how does this exist where overall we're asking for 00:58:02.628 --> 00:58:07.486 - an increase of a couple hundred thousand dollars in impact 00:58:07.586 --> 00:58:14.358 - just this year that's gonna have a knock-on effect in future. So I'm trying to understand, first, have 00:58:14.358 --> 00:58:21.590 - there been discussions about other changes that are gonna be made in departments that are gonna be reflective 00:58:21.590 --> 00:58:28.230 - of this change now? And then the other question that I had is how, and I should have asked this when 00:58:28.230 --> 00:58:35.001 - we did work in the first place, but how work fits in with the large reassessment that we did two years 00:58:35.001 --> 00:58:36.382 - ago that we not only 00:58:36.578 --> 00:58:42.323 - Completed but then returned money from we didn't spend the full six million dollars And so just trying 00:58:42.323 --> 00:58:47.454 - to understand sort of those two processes and where this fits in within that broader system 00:58:47.842 --> 00:58:56.228 - Okay, so the your fiscal questions I'll let the controller address The one thing though that I do want 00:58:56.228 --> 00:59:04.533 - to point out about work in general You know, it is challenging the way that we structure work and how 00:59:04.533 --> 00:59:12.837 - we schedule opportunities to come to council to submit salary ordinance amendments if you think about 00:59:12.837 --> 00:59:16.094 - like the timeline of it departments can 00:59:17.154 --> 00:59:24.886 - have to go almost a year without adjusting their staffing, their structure, right sizing, adjusting 00:59:24.886 --> 00:59:32.618 - duties over the course of a year. And so this mid-year work request, it would have been ideal if we 00:59:32.618 --> 00:59:40.350 - would have had this done in the beginning of January, but because I had new staff and we have a new 00:59:40.350 --> 00:59:41.278 - controller, 00:59:42.306 --> 00:59:48.592 - We are just now getting to the point to where I can even submit something mid-year. I wish this would 00:59:48.592 --> 00:59:54.754 - have happened sooner, right? And so I'll say that This is challenging the way we do things, but I'm 00:59:54.754 --> 01:00:01.102 - just happy to at least be here for now The other thing that I can say is that I have not received work 01:00:01.102 --> 01:00:07.388 - requests for 2027 so it is my understanding in the instruction that we receive from the office of the 01:00:07.388 --> 01:00:08.990 - mayor that there would be 01:00:09.058 --> 01:00:15.530 - no staffing adjustments or requests for 2027, especially considering budget constraints. And so I have 01:00:15.530 --> 01:00:21.813 - not processed anything unless it comes my way sometime soon. I have not seen anything that would be 01:00:21.813 --> 01:00:28.159 - presented to you related to staffing for 2027. That hasn't come my way yet, right? I don't know what 01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:34.568 - will happen tomorrow, but as of right now. And so that's where we are today as far as the process. To 01:00:34.568 --> 01:00:38.526 - my understanding about all the work that we did two years ago, 01:00:38.690 --> 01:00:46.128 - All of the money that we were allocated to do this work, we used the money that we needed, right? What 01:00:46.128 --> 01:00:53.782 - happened to the remaining balance? I don't know. I'm sure there is a great answer for that, but we didn't 01:00:53.782 --> 01:01:01.147 - use it. HR did not use it for the purpose of the salary study and work, and so we understand now even 01:01:01.147 --> 01:01:07.646 - that there are budget constraints now and going forward, so the primary focus of our work 01:01:08.226 --> 01:01:15.367 - our work related to work is just to go back over the last two years and just re-evaluate what we did 01:01:15.367 --> 01:01:22.508 - to see how we did to apply lessons learned. And whenever we get a little small window of opportunity 01:01:22.508 --> 01:01:29.862 - like this mid-year work request to kind of correct some things, then we sneak in there, and that's what 01:01:29.862 --> 01:01:35.518 - we try to do. But then I guess the reason I'm asking this specifically was that 01:01:35.682 --> 01:01:43.341 - when we did the first salary adjustments, and this happened in a public meeting, so I guess I can repeat 01:01:43.341 --> 01:01:51.146 - it, but we had city employees come to our meeting saying that they weren't adjusted, that their adjustment 01:01:51.146 --> 01:01:58.513 - didn't work out, et cetera, but yet we haven't seen that then come through with this process. So how 01:01:58.513 --> 01:02:02.014 - are we to interpret, are these WERK adjustments 01:02:02.210 --> 01:02:08.991 - only to be seen in the sense that somebody's made those changes within the last year? Is that the window 01:02:08.991 --> 01:02:15.643 - that... So it's not like a cumulative change. It's really just saying, look, this last year and moving 01:02:15.643 --> 01:02:22.360 - forward, this is the change we wanna make. This isn't like us trying to catch up to mistakes or missing 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:28.818 - elements to the broader study that we did. Sure. The way that we approached that is if it was up to 01:02:28.818 --> 01:02:30.174 - the department head. 01:02:30.370 --> 01:02:37.068 - So if the department had felt like there was something that they wanted to present for a work request 01:02:37.068 --> 01:02:43.634 - to be evaluated just as utilities and Public works and human resources then that would have been an 01:02:43.634 --> 01:02:50.463 - opportunity For them to present it to us so that we can then do that research like we did for the other 01:02:50.463 --> 01:02:54.206 - requests that were received Excellent. Thank you so much 01:02:55.938 --> 01:03:01.930 - And but then the fiscal the fiscal question because particularly is this if I could get to the sort 01:03:01.930 --> 01:03:07.922 - of gist of it it's do you feel in your in your professional opinion is When we're about to be under 01:03:07.922 --> 01:03:14.035 - quite a lot of duress and the decisions that we're making Like is this reducing degrees of freedom is 01:03:14.035 --> 01:03:20.027 - putting more duress on us and the decisions that we're gonna be making in the next few months about 01:03:20.027 --> 01:03:23.742 - budget moving forward. Yeah so obviously anytime you increase 01:03:24.258 --> 01:03:31.920 - Your salaries of permanent full-time staff you are creating a future burden There's no doubt about that 01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:39.361 - because we don't ever Reduce salaries salaries only ratchet up. So that is certainly true now I will 01:03:39.361 --> 01:03:45.918 - I will tell you that it is kind of awkward as Char mentioned in terms of the timing that 01:03:46.018 --> 01:03:53.945 - We're going through this process or hopefully finalizing the work process at the exact same time that 01:03:53.945 --> 01:04:02.183 - we're developing budgets for 2027 But I will tell you that through this work process. I have been working 01:04:02.183 --> 01:04:10.654 - with the departments to when they get a When they have a request that to figure out how to reduce their 2027 01:04:10.786 --> 01:04:17.097 - budget request as well. So, for example, the HR department, their budget request in the category three 01:04:17.097 --> 01:04:23.285 - services has been reduced by $41,000, which more than covers this. And same thing with public works. 01:04:23.285 --> 01:04:29.473 - That's the key thing that I want to jump. Thank you. Any other questions or comments? Council Member 01:04:29.473 --> 01:04:36.090 - Sosberg. Just a really quick one, and I think it might be for Controller McKim. In terms of these utilities 01:04:36.090 --> 01:04:40.318 - positions, the first one is totally budget neutral because it's just 01:04:40.642 --> 01:04:46.895 - Moving something then the second one we get money back and then so the third and fourth They end up 01:04:46.895 --> 01:04:53.710 - Being costing a little bit more than the money that we got back from number two But the utilities department 01:04:53.710 --> 01:05:00.463 - if I'm remembering right like has various financial streams So I'm wondering if three and four can actually 01:05:00.463 --> 01:05:06.590 - be offset by number two or whether they're in different like divisions and they can't actually be 01:05:06.818 --> 01:05:13.391 - Was afraid you were gonna ask me a utilities question Unfortunately, I don't have the same degree of 01:05:13.391 --> 01:05:19.898 - kind of day-to-day access to the utilities Budgets that that I do to the rest of the civil city. So 01:05:19.898 --> 01:05:26.926 - this would be a good group Assuming this goes to second reading that it would be good to get an explanation 01:05:26.926 --> 01:05:33.564 - from the utilities finance staff That would be great. I'm just kind of curious about that. Thanks and 01:05:33.564 --> 01:05:35.646 - this is is the is cat online or 01:05:36.258 --> 01:05:45.506 - Yes, okay. Well, we'll go to to to director Ziegler and then and then we'll go to Council member Stasper. 01:05:45.506 --> 01:05:54.754 - I'm sorry councilmember Rosenbacher. Yeah, so first to the directors a year Hi director Sager Catherine's 01:05:54.754 --> 01:06:03.827 - a utilities director. Yeah so we can offset because these positions are Paid by all three funds because 01:06:03.827 --> 01:06:05.310 - they all service 01:06:05.474 --> 01:06:12.694 - Water wastewater and stormwater and so we split positions By those funds and so we can offset Certain 01:06:12.694 --> 01:06:20.198 - positions you can't because they only serve water or wastewater or stormwater, but all of these positions 01:06:20.198 --> 01:06:27.418 - are split the same way Thank you. Awesome. Thank you so much for being here to answer that. Thank you 01:06:27.418 --> 01:06:35.134 - Councilman Rosenberger Hi, thank you. I have a question about the public works some of the public works jobs 01:06:35.298 --> 01:06:44.864 - So the one that was supervising folks that are now going to a different place was that position resubmitted 01:06:44.864 --> 01:06:53.898 - and reevaluated by HR to be in the proper spot. I'm sorry, I got my AirPods back in at just the wrong 01:06:53.898 --> 01:07:02.046 - moment where it cut you off for just a second. Can you repeat that one? Yes, I'm asking if, 01:07:02.562 --> 01:07:09.190 - So the position that is losing employees that it manages, was that position resubmitted to 01:07:09.190 --> 01:07:16.546 - HR for reevaluation? I'm not sure if it was formally, no, it was not formally submitted, but as part 01:07:16.546 --> 01:07:24.121 - of this evaluation, I think it was understood that their workload and responsibility level was changing 01:07:24.121 --> 01:07:29.438 - over the last couple of years. And I'd also just wanna remind folks that 01:07:29.538 --> 01:07:36.893 - until 2026 here, we only had one downtown specialist. It wasn't until 2026 that we actually added the 01:07:36.893 --> 01:07:44.248 - second one. So it's just been since this year that we've added the second one, but over the last year 01:07:44.248 --> 01:07:51.675 - and a half plus, we've been kind of transitioning these positions in the day-to-day operations because 01:07:51.675 --> 01:07:53.406 - of just how we operate. 01:07:54.018 --> 01:08:00.142 - And so no, it wasn't formally submitted for a reevaluation, but I can confidently tell you that their 01:08:00.142 --> 01:08:06.266 - responsibility load has only increased and not decreased over the last several years. And even though 01:08:06.266 --> 01:08:12.271 - Director Wason did not officially submit that position for reclassification, that is something that 01:08:12.271 --> 01:08:18.275 - Human Resources would consider. So we looked at the position, and even though there was a change in 01:08:18.275 --> 01:08:23.198 - the responsibilities, it wasn't significant enough. And normally, what we call... 01:08:23.298 --> 01:08:29.825 - what we would qualify as significant would be if there was at least a 20% change in responsibilities 01:08:29.825 --> 01:08:36.418 - that were completely taken away or if the changes in the job description changed the primary focus of 01:08:36.418 --> 01:08:43.139 - the position. So even with making that adjustment, it didn't take away from the level of responsibility 01:08:43.139 --> 01:08:49.602 - and the consequence of error and all the things that we look at for that other position in order to 01:08:49.602 --> 01:08:52.510 - warrant it being reclassified or downgraded. 01:08:54.306 --> 01:09:02.818 - Thank you. Thank you so much. Any other comments? All right, seeing none. We'll go to public comment. 01:09:02.818 --> 01:09:11.580 - Is there anybody who'd like to make public comment on this piece of legislation? Is there anyone online? 01:09:11.580 --> 01:09:20.008 - All right, keeping with our current pace any other comments or motions? Councilmember Piedmont Smith 01:09:20.008 --> 01:09:20.926 - Yeah, I am 01:09:21.538 --> 01:09:31.298 - I feel strongly that the fiscal impact should be calculated beyond the current fiscal year for any ordinances 01:09:31.298 --> 01:09:40.347 - or other legislation that impacts salaries or category one expenses. So I'll put that request in with 01:09:40.347 --> 01:09:48.510 - the controller because I mean when you look overall just using this year's salary scale the 01:09:49.122 --> 01:09:55.924 - Total impact is forty three thousand two hundred forty seven dollars. That's quite a lot You know almost 01:09:55.924 --> 01:10:02.921 - ten thousand in utilities, which of course is rate payer funded. That's different and thirty three thousand 01:10:02.921 --> 01:10:09.529 - five hundred in The city of Bloomington budget. I'm not sure which fund probably the general fund But 01:10:09.529 --> 01:10:16.331 - that you know, if you look at a cost of living increase that's that is going to amount to a lot of money 01:10:16.331 --> 01:10:17.886 - over over the course of 01:10:18.370 --> 01:10:27.436 - the coming years, so I think we need to be cognizant of that. I don't think that would cause me to Vote 01:10:27.436 --> 01:10:36.414 - against the ordinance, but I think we do need to recognize that fact. Thank you Councilman Rosenberger 01:10:36.414 --> 01:10:38.942 - Thank you, I understand that 01:10:39.298 --> 01:10:46.445 - Ideally, this would have come in January or February, but we are two weeks away from budget hearings 01:10:46.445 --> 01:10:53.593 - So for me, I don't like deciding this in a vacuum and I agree with councilmember Piedmont Smith that 01:10:53.593 --> 01:11:00.811 - It's not just about the fiscal impact of this year So I would like to if this comes back for a second 01:11:00.811 --> 01:11:07.038 - reading I would like to see the fiscal impact moving forward of these changes Thank you 01:11:08.930 --> 01:11:15.706 - I actually have a have a just talking amongst us about about both of those comments. I mean I that was 01:11:15.706 --> 01:11:22.613 - my initial feeling as well, but the one of the things that Controller McKim, I think made clear at least 01:11:22.613 --> 01:11:29.587 - to me is that the fiscal impact moving forward Like it's it's hard. It's hard to think about it as impact 01:11:29.587 --> 01:11:35.902 - per se because they can make cuts in other places and so like in many ways maybe it actually is 01:11:36.034 --> 01:11:41.612 - nice that we're doing it now because we're saying, look, we'll adjust these positions knowing, I mean, 01:11:41.612 --> 01:11:47.028 - whether they expect their budget to be $22,000 more next year because of this position, I guess, is 01:11:47.028 --> 01:11:50.494 - the question that we'd like a solid answer to. But I think that 01:11:50.786 --> 01:11:56.475 - The sense that I get also from seeing the way that budget memos are requested and the discussions that 01:11:56.475 --> 01:12:02.163 - have gone on, my understanding is that there will be other cuts anyway. So I don't know if saying this 01:12:02.163 --> 01:12:07.686 - will have this impact is gonna be a real indicator because they'll be cutting their budget in other 01:12:07.686 --> 01:12:13.320 - ways, and I don't know if it's gonna be a one to, because they have this position that they're making 01:12:13.320 --> 01:12:18.622 - the cuts. I think there will just be cuts. So I don't know how to think about the fiscal impact 01:12:18.754 --> 01:12:26.108 - From that perspective, but I mean just just just for for discussion there Any other thoughts are yeah 01:12:26.108 --> 01:12:33.605 - Because I would also kind of appreciate that fiscal impact into future years and maybe kind of in light 01:12:33.605 --> 01:12:41.031 - of that it's maybe maybe thinking about fiscal impact a little differently is it's not necessarily how 01:12:41.031 --> 01:12:46.366 - much more we're gonna spend but potentially what might need to be cut and 01:12:46.594 --> 01:12:53.686 - Where are those cuts might happen? Especially because it's it's being discussed now so close to budget 01:12:53.686 --> 01:13:00.778 - and that and I'm also saying that with with an understanding that I have that in a Huge number of ways 01:13:00.778 --> 01:13:05.598 - the people who actually work for the city make the biggest impact and 01:13:05.762 --> 01:13:12.086 - It's not necessarily always the tool that you have or the technology that you have. It is the person 01:13:12.086 --> 01:13:18.347 - in the position, and I really value the people that are in the positions, especially the people who 01:13:18.347 --> 01:13:24.608 - are doing great jobs, who are expanding things, who are really rocking it, and I want to keep those 01:13:24.608 --> 01:13:30.995 - people, but I think that I would just appreciate having that greater kind of understanding going into 01:13:30.995 --> 01:13:34.814 - future years. We either have to increase budget in this area 01:13:34.914 --> 01:13:41.755 - or that department needs to decrease to compensate for the additional personnel expenses. And so having 01:13:41.755 --> 01:13:48.990 - some kind of an understanding of how that might work for 2027 right now would be helpful, I think, next week. 01:13:50.050 --> 01:13:55.507 - And actually said that way, I'd like to actually concur because, you know, thinking about it a little 01:13:55.507 --> 01:14:01.125 - bit more, it's that we're making a choice, and I think the police is very clear on this, it's like we're 01:14:01.125 --> 01:14:06.904 - making a choice to spend more money now and moving forward on a particular function. And I guess regardless 01:14:06.904 --> 01:14:12.682 - of the fact that you might cut other places where we're saying that we value, you know, this administrative 01:14:12.682 --> 01:14:18.139 - load and that we're going to continue to do that. So that reflection would be useful. I do agree with 01:14:18.139 --> 01:14:18.942 - my colleagues. 01:14:22.242 --> 01:14:32.918 - Any other comments or is there a motion? To send ordinance 2026 dash 17 to a second reading on August 01:14:32.918 --> 01:14:43.385 - 5th There's motion a second any discussion on the motion seeing none will the clerk please call the 01:14:43.385 --> 01:14:50.398 - roll Yes Rosenberger yes Flaherty Stasberg yes, Pete Monsmith. Yes 01:14:51.682 --> 01:14:58.443 - Zulik Sorry, yes and daily. Yes. Thank you very much. We'll discuss that next week. Thank you so much 01:14:58.443 --> 01:15:05.403 - for your time All right. We'll now move on to our last item of legislative. Well, I mean maybe Are there 01:15:05.403 --> 01:15:12.165 - any motions? I move that ordinance 20 26-15 be introduced and read by the clerk by title and synopsis 01:15:12.165 --> 01:15:18.926 - only Motion and second any discussion on the motion? All right seeing none. Well the clerk was called 01:15:18.926 --> 01:15:20.318 - the role Rosenberger 01:15:22.402 --> 01:15:32.554 - Yes. Flaherty? Yes. Stasberg? Yes. Piedmont Smith? Yes. Zulek? Yes. Asari? Yes. Daly? Yes. Amarillo? 01:15:32.554 --> 01:15:43.007 - Yes. Will the clerk please read? Okay. Ordinance 2026-15, amended Title II of the Bloomington Municipal 01:15:43.007 --> 01:15:52.254 - Code regarding establishment of the Fire and Merit Commission. One second. The synopsis is, 01:15:52.514 --> 01:15:59.556 - As follows this ordinance amends title 2 of the Bloomington Municipal Code to delineate the duties between 01:15:59.556 --> 01:16:06.137 - the Bloomington Board of Public Safety and the City of Bloomington Fire and Merit Commission and to 01:16:06.137 --> 01:16:12.982 - create a new chapter which identifies the existence of the statutorily created City of Bloomington Fire 01:16:12.982 --> 01:16:17.918 - and Merit Commission. Fantastic. I move that ordinance 2026-15 be adopted. 01:16:22.658 --> 01:16:31.352 - Fantastic. All right. Well, mr. Wheeler, you can give the world's shortest presentation if you'd like 01:16:31.352 --> 01:16:39.875 - to Doesn't have to be it could be long I guess but just Good evening, Chris Wheeler with city legal 01:16:39.875 --> 01:16:48.483 - department. I Watched the show last week and I Don't know that I can do any better than mr. Allen in 01:16:48.483 --> 01:16:52.574 - the presentation I will say to the council that 01:16:53.058 --> 01:17:00.473 - Historically first reading was a Non-issue and it just happened as a matter of course, so I did not 01:17:00.473 --> 01:17:08.110 - show up last week I had been told that the process had changed and then promptly forgot so I apologize 01:17:08.110 --> 01:17:15.599 - For not being here last week, and I certainly want to thank mr. Allen for his wonderful presentation 01:17:15.599 --> 01:17:21.086 - but moving forward this is in fact as the synopsis says an opportunity to 01:17:21.538 --> 01:17:29.076 - Present to the Bloomington Municipal Code the fact that there is a fire merit commission that was established 01:17:29.076 --> 01:17:36.204 - by Operation of law it was established on January 1st of 2025 We have had meetings it is up and running 01:17:36.204 --> 01:17:43.057 - but if you were to go to the Bloomington Municipal Code you would not see it and In fact, you would 01:17:43.057 --> 01:17:50.047 - only still be laboring under an impression that the Board of Public Safety is the board that does the 01:17:50.047 --> 01:17:51.486 - hiring promotion and 01:17:51.586 --> 01:17:59.077 - Discipline of the fire department members, which in fact is wrong So it makes sense to go ahead today 01:17:59.077 --> 01:18:06.568 - and update the code at title two by doing two things first of all showing that delineation within the 01:18:06.568 --> 01:18:13.985 - existing code with regards to the Board of Public Safety to show that they do not Have the authority 01:18:13.985 --> 01:18:19.934 - and control anymore over the hiring promotion and discipline of fire members and 01:18:20.354 --> 01:18:27.115 - and then also to create a whole new section in Bloomington Municipal Code under Title II, which expresses 01:18:27.115 --> 01:18:33.620 - the fact that we do have a Fire Merit Commission and breaks down basically its powers, expressing how 01:18:33.620 --> 01:18:40.126 - many members there are in that commission, what their terms are, who appoints them, things like that. 01:18:40.126 --> 01:18:46.568 - So I'm happy to answer questions, but it seems pretty self-explanatory, but happy to take a question 01:18:46.568 --> 01:18:49.374 - or two. Thank you very much. Any questions? 01:18:53.346 --> 01:19:04.561 - Alright, we'll go to public comment. Does anyone like would anyone like to comment on ordinance 2026 01:19:04.561 --> 01:19:16.443 - 15? Is there anyone online? All right back to council any comments Any motions In the committee on council 01:19:16.443 --> 01:19:21.662 - processes we've been toying with the idea of a 01:19:22.050 --> 01:19:32.256 - Consent agenda and this seems like a good example of an item that could be on a consent agenda Thank 01:19:32.256 --> 01:19:42.865 - you and with that any motions. Oh Yeah, yeah Yes, we did actually and nothing happened I know All right. 01:19:42.865 --> 01:19:51.454 - Well with that will the clerk please call the roll? Flaherty Stasburg Piedmont Smith 01:19:52.002 --> 01:20:02.238 - Yes, Zulik, Azari. Yes. Daly? Yes. Rollo? Yes. And Rosenberger? Yes. Hooray. All right. Thank you very 01:20:02.238 --> 01:20:12.673 - much, Mr. Wheeler. That passes. We'll now move on to our final period of public comment. Is there anyone 01:20:12.673 --> 01:20:20.126 - who would like to make public comment? Just for fun? No? No? I mean, sure. 01:20:20.738 --> 01:20:27.774 - This is the first time we've never at this. I feel like what what is this anybody online? All right. 01:20:27.774 --> 01:20:34.810 - Well with that we'll go to issues of council schedule Anybody have an issue that you'd like to raise 01:20:34.810 --> 01:20:41.150 - at this moment? Well, great. All right, then we're adjourned. We'll see you guys next week