Hello, everyone. Thank you so much for being here. I will call this meeting to order, or this deliberation
session to order with the clerk whenever she is ready. Please do us the honor of calling the roll. Yes.
Council member Flaherty. Stossberg. Here. Here. Got you both. Piedmont Smith. Here. Zulek. Here.
Daly here Rallo here rough here Rosenbarger Here, thank you. Thank you. And now I will kick things over
to my esteemed colleague councilmember Piedmont Smith Thank You councilmember Zulek We do have
two councilmembers that are online so if there are people who have joined us via zoom and
You can still participate in the conversation and have the small group breakouts with our colleagues
who are online. So just want to recognize that council members Flaherty and Rosenberger are on Zoom.
Cannot see them because we have this lovely slideshow. Oh there we go. That's council member Rosenberger.
OK. So thank you for being here tonight. Here's an overview of the agenda.
Councilmember Stossberg and I will do an introduction Then we will move to Wyatt Lawson from a CJM community
justice and mediation center Who will talk about our community agreements and overview of the process
for tonight? Then we will have our breakout group discussions That'll be about 50 minutes five zero
So that's plenty of time for people to share their views on public safety. And I hope everybody who
came in tonight has the sheet that tells you what those deliberation questions are. One side is Spanish
and one is English. Then we will move to reports from each group. We have 30 minutes designated for
reports. And those will be reports from
the city officials who are participating in each group. We have tonight in addition to council members
we have Mayor Kerry Thompson is here somewhere. There she is. And we have Clerk Nicole Bolden who is
also here participating. So you'll have one of those individuals or one of us in your group and we will
be the ones reporting back to the full group.
Then we will have a survey for you to complete either online or in hard copy. And then we'll have a
final 10 minutes of feedback from people who felt like they their feedback was not represented in the
reports. And if you stay till the end we're going to have cookies. OK. You can't get them until you
stay through the whole thing. All right. I think we'll turn it over to council member Stossberg.
Yeah thank you so much for being here to participate in this discussion tonight. I'm just kind of going
to give you a little bit of a pre overview before our CGM representative why it goes that today we really
want to hear about your experiences in public safety that there is it's one of those things where there's
no wrong answers and everybody's input is welcome because everybody's experiences are valid and meaningful
and worth something.
And the goal today is not to come to any kind of consensus or agreement and it is not to make any decisions
about policy or programs or what we should do or what we shouldn't do. It's all about experiences.
And the objective, of course, is just to better understand each other and this topic of public safety,
which could mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people and everybody has different
experiences related to it. And the other thing that we're kind of using this for is, those of you who
may follow along with council stuff, is last year when we were working on budget priorities, one of
the things that we realized was that there's really only this very vague enhanced public safety kind of goal
our planning and what does that really mean and so as council members we were kind of like it would
probably be good to have a little bit more of an in-depth understanding of what that means in the form
of some kind of a public safety plan in the same way that we have a comprehensive plan and a transportation
plan and all of those things so this session is kind of the first step towards some sort of potential
public safety plan
Move the slide. There we go. So some possible aspects of public safety kind of I just want to make sure
that that we all understand and that you understand that we understand that this is a very broad term that
There's a lot of overlap with feeling safe or feeling less safe with lots of other aspects of community
life. And that once again, this is about experiences. All of these things are valid. But we have to
understand the overlap with other areas of government or private sector work. Ultimately, there's going
to be two sessions related to this tonight and then one in October. And so if tonight we're talking
about experiences and listening and trying to understand each other,
Second session we're going to talk more about about solutions And so we're after gathering all of these
ideas and experiences They're kind of going to be put together and synthesized and trying to get out
some patterns and some themes and see what happens And that's part of what the reporting is tonight
to just to hear those different Themes that emerge this evening and then councilmember Piedmont Smith
is going to talk about this concept map which is one way to potentially kind of
you know, represent that idea of public safety in the community. So this is an example that was put
together by the Safety and Justice Challenge, which is a MacArthur Foundation initiative that started
in 2022, I believe. And they had public input sessions about community safety in three different counties.
And so this is what they came up with. And I just want to show this as to get your ideas going as far
as what is considered public safety, what you might talk about. But it certainly doesn't have to look
like this. It'll be unique to Bloomington, what we decide community safety is for us and what our priorities
end up being.
came up with this map with, so there are five general areas, and then under each there are sub-areas.
And it's all a little bit vague, like tonight I expect we'll have more experiences, like I was walking
down this street and this happened to me. But then as we look at the notes and the themes that arise,
we might be able to try to group them in this way.
or in a similar way. So I want to just show this as an example of what other communities have done.
And now I'm going to turn it over to Wyatt Lawson who's the executive director of C jam to guide us
in what comes next. Excellent. Thank you. I see my clicker is coming to me so I'll give yes. Thank you.
Perfect. So hi everyone. My name is Wyatt Lawson. I am the executive director of CGAM.
but I'll also serve as your lead facilitator tonight. I wanna talk just a little bit about who we are
and what we do, and then I'll talk about what we're here to do tonight. So CGM has been serving Monroe
County since 1995, and for over 30 years, we've been working within conflict resolution, restorative
justice, and education. So our mission is to provide or promote a civil and just community through mediation
education and restorative justice, and we envision a fair community that learns from conflict,
prevents harm, and grows in understanding. So facilitation is part of that mission. We offer, like I said,
conflict resolution, mediation, court-based mediation, restorative justice training and facilitation.
And all of the mediators, facilitators, note-takers that you see here tonight are all volunteer community
members. So we are a community mediation center, which means that the folks that
help us resolve these conflicts and work within my services and programs. Our community members, they're
not paid. They do this because they see the love in how we can work together to work through conflict.
So that's just a little bit about us, but now let's talk about what we're here to do today. Each of
your groups are going to have a lead facilitator, city representation, and then a note taker to help
capture what we're going through. But before we get into those groups, I wanna talk about some community
agreements. So this is gonna be what helps guide us through this conversation
conversation. They're agreements, they're not rules, so this is something that we're all committing
to as a group tonight that we will follow as we participate. So I'm gonna read through them, but then
at the end I'm gonna give all of you an opportunity to add or subtract if there's something on here
you disagree with or if there's something that we may be missing. So the first piece is to speak from
your own experience. The object of tonight is to grow an understanding on how our community sees or
experiences public safety.
We are going to speak from our own experience, share what you've experienced, noticed, or believe, and
you're always welcome to pass. So if there's a question on the table that you don't feel comfortable
answering, you can always pass. There's no obligation to share in our facilitated groups this evening.
Listening to understand. So being curious about experiences and perspectives that may be different from
our own. We all experience public safety very differently. So making sure you're listening to understand.
We're not making decisions tonight. We're not suggesting policy changes. We are just here to listen
from everybody's experiences.
Make room for one another, being mindful of how much space we're taking up so everyone has an opportunity
to participate. Our facilitators tonight will help you do this, but if they're pushing you to move on
or if they're changing directions, just know that that's part of this agreement, that we're making sure
that everyone gets a chance to share this evening. It's OK to disagree, but to do so with curiosity
and not hostility. So like I said earlier, we're going to disagree on things this evening, and that's OK.
We don't have to come out of tonight changing each other's experiences or ideas about public safety.
We're here to listen and to understand the diverse experiences that our community may have around public
safety. Respect what others share.
And that goes with listening to understand, but also take the lessons and ideas from the conversations
with you, but leave other people's personal stories here. So I can't promise confidentiality tonight,
but what I can say is part of this group agreement is that you all are agreeing that we're not going
to bring these experiences outside of. You can bring what you learned and the themes that we talk about
this evening, but leaving the individual stories with the folks who said them is an important part of
this evening.
And then the last piece is the theme that I've said throughout this entire community agreement, understanding
before problem solving. Sometimes those two things are hard to figure out which one you want to go for,
and sometimes your experiences are rooted in kind of a problem or trying to solve a problem. Our facilitators
will ask you questions to help you do this, but our purpose tonight
is to understand experiences. It's not to problem solve. It's not to solve all of the world's problems.
We're here to listen to your experiences. And then we will do the work of theming those experiences
for session two. So I'm going to put them all up here. I'll open it. Is there anything that needs to
be added to this list from our participants this evening?
Is there anything that should be struck from the list that isn't appropriate for this evening? Okay,
I will take both of those moments of silence as that we are all agreeing that this is how we will participate
this evening. And myself and my facilitators and everybody involved can now have this guideline to help
us move through our conversations.
Enough of hearing me talk, it's now time for you all to share your experiences. I'm going to go ahead
and break us out into our original groups, but depending on the size of each group, I may do
some consolidation. On the top of your participant handouts that you got, there should be a number,
and they're going to be associated to my facilitation groups.
I'm gonna go a little out of order, because I know the folks that are in this room are not quite all
of the numbers. So I'm gonna start with group three. So if you look at the top of your little sheet
that you were given in when check-in, and I'm gonna have Julie hold up three for me. You will be with
Julie this evening. So for group three, you'll be up here at the front with Julie and Irene. Group four
will be up in the corner with Terry and Susan. And then group
Group two will be with Vanessa, who will be leading you outside of the room. So if you say group two,
you've got that. Group eight or seven, you'll be up here at the front. Just eight, not seven. So if
you're group eight or if you need a Spanish-speaking group, you'll be up here at the front. And then
I have lost count of all my numbers. Group one, you'll be with Kristen. So if you say one, you'll follow
Kristen out.
Six will be with Dorit. So if you have group six, go ahead and follow then. So we've got in this room,
three up here in the corner. We've got four on the other side. We've got group two on this side and
group eight or seven. All right, everybody. If I can have everyone kind of bring back to the group,
we're going to start our report outs.
A couple, well first, thank you all for engaging in a 50 minute conversation with our facilitators.
I hope you all learned. Yes, we can give a round of applause.
have to give a shout out to our facilitators. Again, they are volunteers who think this work is important.
So without them, we couldn't do the work that we do at C-Jam. We're going to begin the report out session.
We're going to try something a little new, and we'll see if it's going to work. So as we're reporting
out from each group, my lovely note-taker, Caroline, is going to try to capture what our reporters are
saying. And you should see them starting to appear on the screens around us. To give you an idea of
how we're going to theme,
we're gonna look at the notes that you all took and start to build and connect some of the experiences
we heard to help inform what session two looks like. I don't wanna get too deep into that because that's
for session two. So we'll start report outs in no specific order. In fact, I wrote down them in the
most random order I could. So we're gonna start with group six. Whoever, group six, excellent, thank you.
Hello everyone. Thank you so much for being here. I represent the small but mighty group six and also
district six Sydney Zulek. We talked about some higher level themes regarding familiarity understanding
and predictability that leads to a higher feeling of safety and some of the physical aspects surrounding
that including
good lighting someone's ability or perceived ability to protect themselves and their family and We talked
a lot about the members of the Bloomington Police Department who are doing some great community building
work so thank you to the police officers who are here and That summarizes my report. Thank you very
much Thank You group six
So hopefully, very soon, you'll see Caroline's work behind the scenes popping up there on some of the
things we said. So thank you, GroupSoups. We'll move to group eight, which I believe is right here.
Group eight, seven, I gave you two numbers. So I'll let you all take care of that. It did, just a bit.
Good evening. So in group eight.
Oh, my name is Nicole. So in group eight, we talked about themes of identity, community and belonging
and how it impacts our views on safety, reducing threats of violence, better use of resources, stronger
information planning, sharing, engagement, collaboration and accountability. Some of the key understandings
that we talked about were if
I mean, the shorthand was, if nobody feels safe, nobody is saved. That safety has to include everyone,
including people experiencing different challenges. And we stressed that limited coordination across
city departments and community groups could weaken safety. And perspectives to retain, especially at
our table, we talked about women, people experiencing homelessness, immigrants, the Hispanic and Latino
black community and lgbtq plus people and We finished by stressing the importance of accountability
and intentional efforts by the council Thank You group eight My next group is lucky group three, which
I believe is right up here. I
Short, hi. I'm Hopi Stasberg and I'm representing group three tonight and I also represent district
three for City Council and I am gonna do my best to summarize some themes here based on the questions
so people in our group had themes of feeling of safety and
when there was familiarity and a sense of community in where they were, when they knew the people that
they were near.
or the places that they were near when there were friends, when there were neighbors, just feeling like
they had those people as resources. And then also when they saw other resources that were available
for other community members. So things like little free pantries, the vending machines for various supplies
so that this idea of community safety and that made other people in my group feel safe as well.
Contributing to feeling less safe was being alone especially out and about alone There were various
conversations around negative interactions with others either with direct harassment or violence Unstable
individuals or uncertainty of stability with individuals and drivers as well that were
not obeying traffic laws, that we're driving erratically, that we're driving too fast, those sorts of
things. Loitering or out of the ordinary behaviors and just being kind of uncertain as to what was going
on with somebody else. And then we had this kind of like dual thing with
safety and lack of safety if you feel less safe when you witness or experience those negative behaviors
when you hear about it on the news contributes to feeling less safe but also if you see a lot of positive
news stories or have a lot of positive events that all contributes to feeling safety. So it's almost
like a reinforcing sort of pattern no matter which side you're on. There was an interesting on both
sides guns came up that some people in our group felt safer
when they were carrying guns, and other people in our group felt less safe when there were guns. So
that is a difference.
Things that the group wanted counsel to understand about what public safety means for Bloomington is
that if you don't know people then you fear them. And so having familiarity with the neighborhood and
the community and just knowing people is really important and that people who live here need to have
that feeling of safety but that not everybody feels safe. And so that's really important.
There is also a lot of conversation about homelessness and that public safety and homelessness are linked
together in terms of both concern with potentially erratic behavior, but also concern for the unhoused
people and their safety. And because they are unhoused, then they might not be safe themselves.
And then also, resources are just incredibly important for everybody to be able to get what they need.
And I think that's it. Thank you.
Thank you, group three. So we're seeing, as you're kind of watching things together, I've heard familiarity
and predictability come up now a couple times, so that's important, as well as some groups starting
to be identified that play into public safety, both on kind of both sides of the line there. So we'll
go group four, which is our group up here. Thank you.
So beginning with what brought people to the council, a lot of it concerned recent shootings that occurred
and concern about that danger. And then really just people were interested in the overall view of public
safety in the community, brought them to the council this evening. Also, there was a concern about public space
Spaces making sure that they are safe and that the perception of safety It was an important component
of that of public spaces For the question of when you felt safe One member of our group said cameras
made him feel safe more cameras more safety and Generally speaking people in the group said they feel
relatively safe and
in the community. However, there wasn't concern about members of the community, particularly people
of color, having a different experience, different perception. With the question of feeling unsafe,
concern about, in the past, rookie police working overtime was a concern, but is now being remedied.
The situation is much better than it used to be. Again, interest in cameras in certain areas of the
city, and particularly in parks, Seminary Park needs cameras was one point of view. And concern about
guns in the community as well. So either people either concealing guns or actually brandishing guns was
Is problematic, but we're of course under a state rule. So So there was Expression again of that certain
members of the community black population makes up 4% of the building 10 population, but 20% of the
jail residents is a problem Which of the city council understand Is Really quite a variety of input
But this is where we came, I think, out of maybe the traditional perception of public safety.
And that is, do people feel safe speaking at public events like this? Do they feel heard? Are they afraid
of being bullied or being discounted for their points of view? And for participation in the community,
we need people to feel
Safe to come out and express themselves The importance of how police respond and the importance of community
policing Was an important thing that the council should understand And And then understanding Essentially
what we're allowed to do is a community again
that we don't have the ability necessarily to prohibit guns at the pool because state law allows it.
And then the last was the idea of public safety and the perception of public safety can be two very
different things. And those things need to be addressed separately or together. And that when bad things
happen, we need to also share
positive experiences. So for instance, needle exchange has probably been effective and many other things
for the decline in needles in the community being found by the parks department and their experiences
there. So there are good stories to tell as well as the not good ones regarding public safety. I think
that's it. Thank you. Thank you, group four.
So we're gonna move to our last two groups. I'm gonna first have group two come up and then we'll finish
off with group one. Hi, I'm Mayor Carey proudly representing group two tonight. And some themes that we heard
really echo a lot of what we've heard from other groups. How welcome we feel impacts our feeling of
safety. When we feel known or feel that we belong in a place, that helps us feel safe. And when the
community is actively building a sense of belonging, our safety is enhanced.
And so we had some experiences shared about moving to Bloomington and it being a much bigger place than
where someone was from and the interactions they were having with people and not knowing people helped
them feel unsafe, actually, whereas when they
get into more familiar settings and in a group of belonging, they feel safer. Another theme that we
heard was around infrastructure that helps us feel safe and particularly lighting that helps us feel
safe and the
I know we call these lights too, but the blue lights on campus that actually have a way to make contact
with emergency services if you are unsafe. Not being alone, which goes back to belonging, but it's also
sort of strength in numbers. The sort of situational awareness and
not only just being familiar in a place, but knowing what I can do to make myself more safe. So in this
situation or in this place, who can I call? Who is here that can help me? And or is there a place I
can go to be safe if this becomes unsafe or things that all help us to feel more safe? Some things that
make us feel more unsafe, the news, both real news and fake news. So sometimes rumors get started about
who did things, not true. And then we're looking at people suspiciously and feeling unsafe about more
people. But also just the awareness of when shootings or rapes happen.
particularly was mentioned, the campus alerts can make us feel really unsafe knowing what's happening
to others. And a couple of mentions of misreporting the facts. So people coming from out of town, which
generally is, frankly, a dog whistle, and frequently is
not true, that crimes do happen from people who live in town. The guns were also mentioned, and especially
unfortunate things happening in large crowds.
It wasn't directly connected to the gun comment, but that the larger a crowd is, the more unsafe it
can be. Statistically, the more you have a chance of somebody acting in an unsafe way.
What we wanted council to know is that the things that the city does to help welcome people is particularly
important and creating spaces where people can feel a sense of belonging and the notes on the infrastructure,
especially lighting, that helps people feel safe.
I almost forgot about our group online. So I'm actually gonna let them go next, and then we'll wrap
up with group one. So for my folks online, I'll turn it over to you. Hi, thanks. So I wasn't expecting
to go next, so I'm sorry. But I think that I wanna start with the themes that we were assigned to report
out on. Someone mentioned that
confidence in institutions help a feeling of safety. Knowing that you can call 911 or a helpline and
that there's cooperation between city and county, that there's transparency in how things are handled.
Someone noted that
the city used to give crash detail, detailed crash reports and they're not doing that anymore. And so
like a theme I feel like was like a kind of lack of transparency in like feeling like there is an unknown
and not feeling safe around that. Someone kind of distilled it into two different categories from tonight.
One is safety from being hit
It killed or injured by cars. It came up a lot in our group, whether someone was in a car or walking
or biking, and then safety from being injured by people committing crimes or possibly committing criminal
acts or breaking the rules in some way. I guess, for example, shouting on a street at night and maybe
bullying someone,
or getting into a physical fight on the street. Our session, also the folks that identified, I guess,
I identified as like a white woman and a couple people identified as white men. I think that is probably
useful to know just in terms of, I guess, what got said. Someone mentioned when we were talking about
themes that
people are situated differently, almost each and every one of us is situated differently. And so while
somebody feels safe walking on a sidewalk, someone else in our group said at nighttime there might be
cracks and they can't see as well. So they prefer to walk in the street, things like that. A lot of
people had feelings of both safety and unsafety and how they get around town. So mentions of when there
is infrastructure built
to keep different modes of transportation separate. They feel much, much more safe than when they are
on a street with different modes of transportation. Let me see here. Folks also talked about like things
that people identify as public infrastructure. So this kind of came up in police and fire and, you know,
knowing that you can call
some folks saying you can call for help and like knowing that's going to be received. And then other
is like regular infrastructure and city services as just like a different realm of safety. Someone also
mentioned that kind of more curious around public safety versus public welfare, which I thought was
interesting too. Let me see here.
I think that's about it. People came here tonight to being interested in policy interventions that might
help people feel more safe. I think a lot of people in this group were very aware like this is a perception
of safety and it is different for everyone versus like data that might show otherwise. People were very
interested in like a holistic approach to public safety.
And that's it. That's where I'm going to stop. Thank you. And thank you all for being present online
so we could have our folks joining us online participate. So we will wrap up with our last group, group
number one, and then we'll move into our next portion of the evening. All right. Thank you. My anxiety
only grows as I'm waiting to be the last one to present. Microphone doesn't go down low enough for me. Okay.
Courtney Don't laugh. I'm Courtney daily City Council. I represented group one and group five So our
small but mighty group had a lot of themes in common with a lot of everything else that was said So
our big three themes that we touched on were community All right creating a sense of community really
made everybody in our group agree that we felt safe within
our communities, our neighborhoods, but also larger communities, like when neighborhoods would come
together organically or outings downtown when we're in large groups of people. And we felt a good sense
of safety in that way. Predictability was another word that we used that I heard a lot tonight. So we
talked a lot about feeling safe when we know things are predictable and a sense of discomfort and
feeling unsafe when there was unpredictability. So gun violence and gun safety came up quite a bit in
our group. And that kind of played into the predictability conversation, where when we see somebody
maybe open carrying out at the pool or in Kroger or walking around, there's a lack of predictability
there. You don't know what that person is.
thinking or planning and that also was brought up in terms of maybe being down on Kroger and if there
are people, Kroger Kirkwood I meant, and people acting erratically and that leads to a safe, a feeling
of unsafety because again, it's that lack of predictability. You don't know what they're going to do.
And anxiety was another common theme within our group and I think that anxiety that we talked about
a lot came from messaging You know a lot of IU alerts when something is happening, you know hearing
a lot of bad news I think it was group two that mentioned that too And so talking about how maybe we
can craft messaging to maybe make us feel a little bit less anxious would help with a sense of safety
so things that
Group one and five one of the common council to understand from this conversation again revolved around
community building Building community made many of us in the group feel safe and we talked a lot about
how can we expand that? Beyond just our own neighborhoods where we are lucky enough to feel safe in
our own neighborhoods being able to communicate out
What makes this feeling of public safety what practices to create good public safety and in other words
distilling that down into maybe a more common definition that City council can start working on as our
baseline Getting that shared definition and understanding of what we're working toward with public safety
So does that mean predictability and trust for example?
and maybe sharing out this is what it looks like to support each other. Expressing expectations was
another thought of what can go into helping create this common sense and definition of public safety.
Important perspectives that should not be lost.
Group pointed out that we all do have different perceptions of what safety means for each of us So some
communities in Bloomington have their own understanding and perspective that other communities may not
feel Meshes with their sense of public safety. They might not agree. Maybe that that neighborhood or
that community has a
public safety and what prevents people from going into that area then. And how can we get out of our
own safety bubbles and start mixing our communities and helping, again, to create that common understanding
between groups. And then question or ideas deserves further exploration.
This goes back to the communication and messaging and the impact of alerts and warnings that we get.
So we had one member of our group talked a lot about, well, how can we counterbalance that with positive
messaging, which would help pull down barriers contributing to the common understanding. Again, getting
out of our own sense of safety and working on better messaging that doesn't quite feel so alarmist and
fear-based.
That was it. Thank you. All right. Thank you all for sharing.
Like I said earlier, we've captured a lot of what you've all said. But of course, my note takers have
also captured all of the experiences shared tonight. And we have a tall order ahead of us as we work
to continue to theme across all of the groups. So you all heard a lot of similarities. We've heard things
like familiarity will help, or adds to safety, predictability, belonging. We've heard some differences
in relations
guns and surveillance, so we've heard a lot of difference, we've heard a lot of similarities, and we
get to then work to figure out what session two can help us dive deeper into what some of these themes
that emerged tonight look like in practice.
The next portion of the evening is actually what we call our exit survey. So it gives you all another
opportunity to provide a little bit of feedback. I believe we have it both in digital format and in
paper. So you can choose which way you'd like to participate. It's not a super long survey. I try my
hardest to keep surveys under 10 minutes to complete because I know no one likes a long survey. So if
you would like a paper survey, we could pass those out or you can scan the QR code on the screen to
complete that survey. So we'll give folks about seven, eight,
minutes to complete the survey and then we'll give you one more chance if anyone from the wider group
has anything to add to our discussion tonight we'll try to keep those brief and then we'll close up
the evening so I'll give you all about seven eight minutes to complete the survey all right if you are
still writing that is all right but I'm gonna go ahead and move us into
the next little session. So before I turn it over to the council to wrap us up for this evening and
talk about what next steps are, I want to open for about five to six minutes just to open for anybody
in the group if they felt like something has not been shared that should be shared, maybe a thought
you had as you were filling out your survey that wasn't covered. So this is for the general group if
there's anybody who is interested in sharing something that they don't believe they've heard yet.
It's my last call for feedback if there's any in the room. It's okay if there's not, but I want to make
sure that there is a space in case there is. Lovely. That means we did our job at least decently this
evening, which is good. Well, then I'll turn it back over to the council to wrap us up this evening.
I appreciate you all for being here. The information that you provided tonight will help us move forward,
but I'll turn it over.
Thank you all.
time or 10 minutes early. I am so proud of all of us. Thank you all for being here. If you are interested
in coming to our next public safety deliberation session, that will be held on Wednesday, October 21st
at 630 right here in council chambers. Today we talked a lot about our experiences with public safety.
On October 21st we'll be exploring our community priorities as a whole on how we want to move forward
and solutions that council can address. So if today is more focused on understanding October 21st we'll
be more focused on solving the issues. Thank you all so much for being here. We are adjourned early.