Everybody and welcome to session two of the City Council's Public safety the liberation sessions. Thank
you so much for being here. It's going to be a wonderful time So I'll just call this meeting to order
I think we have to do the thing where the clerk says that we're all here So I'll pass to the clerk to
call us all in Okay councilmember Stossberg here Piedmont Smith here
Zulek here sorry I'm also here daily here Rallo here all right well thank you so much for those joining
online and we're gonna have lots of breakout things and councilmember Rallo is gonna be leading that
but for now I'm gonna hand over to our oh in fact okay I'm passing over to councilmember Stasberg take
it away ma'am
So much welcome everybody I'm so happy to have you guys here tonight for our second community conversation
and deliberation session on public safety if staff could maybe get that slideshow up on the screen that
would be great. I'm just going to do a little introduction and then I'm going to pass it over to a colleague
and then we're going to. There we go. Wonderful. Sure.
Thank you. I think that this was the welcome, so I already did that. So this is our little agenda overview
for this evening. We're starting with this opening presentation with myself, and then I'll pass it over
to Councilmember Piedmont-Smith. We're going to do some community agreements and a process overview
with Wyatt Lawson, who's in the back from CGM. And then most of our time is going to be spent having
small group deliberative sessions. And each group is going to be on a different topic, then we'll get
reports out from
each group at the end, do an exit survey and talk about next steps for this. So in terms of what we've
already done, how many of you came or like watched the video or did the survey or anything like that
from the first session? Can I just have like a little show of hands? Okay, so about half of you. So
at the first session we had just kind of general conversation with folks about and every group
talked about the same thing, and it was what makes you feel safe and unsafe in Bloomington. And there
was an exit survey, and then in early October, there was some follow-up survey kind of recognizing who
we connected with in that session and who we did not connect with in that session and trying to reach
out with some deliberation to different folks.
And CJAM wrote up a report for us on session one. And so as part of that report, there were some very
specific focus points identified that were kind of commonalities between those things. And so tonight,
we're highlighting four of those commonalities. And so you can see there's four tables set up. So each
group is going to be a different one of those topics. Don't feel like you have to stay in the topic
that you happened to sit down at this evening before we go into the sessions. You guys can go to whichever
one you want to.
And that's basically what the session today is about, is within those specific topics, how can we seek
to make Bloomington a safer place, feel like a safer place within those specific topics? There will
be another report on this session, and then hopefully there'll be some things that
will learn as city council to guide our decision making, of course, understanding that we're a legislative
body and that some of these things are programmatic elements. And sometimes things are outside of the
wheelhouse of council, but they require maybe some collaboration with other community groups. And I
think this is slide four, which goes down to my colleague, council member Piedmont-Smith. Thank you.
From the first deliberation session in the surveys that we did, there were four issues that kind of
came to the forefront. They're a little bit amorphous, but I hope that they are clear enough that you
can understand the differences, and we'll go into some of these in other slides. So for one thing, we'll
call it group A,
is a safe, accessible, and welcoming public spaces in the community. This came up several times as an
important aspect of public safety. And then B, community care, crisis response, and supportive services
for those who need it. C was a public safety response, prevention, and accountability. And that was
mostly around police or alternatives to police.
And D was communication, transparency, and community trust. And that's often with those in authority
or the city government in particular. Something that came up across categories was that people feel
safe when they have a sense of belonging, like they are part of a community that cares. So let's go
a little bit more detail into these four groups.
or these four focus areas. So first of all, a safe, accessible, and welcoming community or public spaces
in the community. This has to do with physical safety, including lighting, transportation infrastructure,
sidewalks, safe places to bicycle, things like that, and also accessibility as far as if you have a
disability of some sort, you can have access to the public spaces.
It also has to do with predictable surroundings. You know what to expect. And the feeling that you can
be yourself and not have to hide who you are because you fear any kind of discrimination. That was a
big point as well about feeling safe. And then of course the availability of public space in general.
Like the Switchyard Park swings here in the picture.
is very important to generating that feeling of a welcoming community. So second focal point B is community
care, crisis response, and supportive services. In this category, we heard comments about providing
healthcare and housing, especially for the most vulnerable people in the community, including those
who are unhoused.
Knowing what to do when you encounter somebody who is in crisis so that you can help. Addressing the
root causes of lack of safety among certain populations. So again, that's that supportive services,
the community care that if it's lacking, it can lead to emergencies. And just stability of the community.
So both stability for individuals and families, but also
for the community as a whole so that we feel like we're not in kind of a unpredictable state of society.
The third category is public safety response, prevention, and accountability. So here, of course, any
conversation about public safety will talk about police, both as a response to crime and
as a community outreach because we have different kinds of police employees. Also a non-police community
response. Here it would focus on mostly addressing mental health emergencies, substance use disorders,
but also preventative outreach to communities who may, if they don't have the right connections, may
have emergencies. The prevention of crime.
and prevention of emergency situations. Okay, I already mentioned those in the above two contexts. And
then accountability for their actions of individuals, but also of the emergency responders themselves.
And our last category is communication, transparency, and community trust. This is an image from a press
conference with Chief DeKoff and Mayor Thompson. This has to do with
people feeling they have a role in local decision making, in making decisions that impact either directly
or indirectly their sense of safety and their actual safety. This also involves communication from people
in authority about imminent threats and about incidents that happen that threaten public safety or have
threatened public safety.
and full transparency what happened as much as possible without jeopardizing an investigation.
What happened? What were the responses? How can we prevent it in the future? And then making sure that
all populations are represented when we bring people into the decision making process. So I think I'm
supposed to hand it back to Councilmember Stossberg at this point who can kind of summarize using this
chart. Great. Thank you. I wasn't expecting that. I'm not as organized as I usually am. So this chart
is actually kind of a basic model that I can't remember. Councilmember Piedmont-Smith found it. And
it's basically this idea of if we have public safety in the center, then public safety has different
aspects of it. And of course,
I would say probably there's more than four, but these are the four that came out in the September session.
So these are the four that are on here for now. And then within each of these four, there's other, it's
another path to follow, a little bit more detail in each of them. And so that's something that we can
think about filling in more completely as a community. And one of the origins of this that we talked
about was,
budget time last year and we were looking at the plans and things for the city and going how should
we invest and and having kind of an overall goal of public safety and recognizing we don't actually
have a public safety plan in the same way that we have other city plans like a transportation plan and
a climate action plan and so if we want to improve public safety, what does that really mean and we
need to think about about those pieces and so this is just sort of a visual of how to think about
These pieces to say okay if we have a if if a piece of public safety is safe accessible and welcoming
public spaces Then there's pedestrian and traffic safety where some specific places may be
There are some challenges with that and then how to address those and so that's a piece of the conversation
to have this evening is going into those specific Places in these different categories saying how can
we address them? And of course the city as a city councilmember I'm most you know, are there things
that need to be addressed? Legislatively, are there things that need to be addressed in terms of budget
priority? Do we need to figure out some?
Different programmatic kind of things and communicate, you know within city and within city departments
Do we need to collaborate with other community groups some of whom are represented here today, so I
thank you there's some community groups here represented today and Is this where is this why it's No,
if you could review this then we can hand it back
All right, so in our group deliberation session, each of you need to choose a focus area. And so each
of the tables should be labeled, I don't actually, I didn't actually remember to look to know where
they are, but they're A, B, C, D, right? A, B, C, D. So hopefully you guys remembered, oh great, so
there's C back there, D, who are we up here? Is this A over here? A, B. So if you wanna talk about,
let's go back a slide. Oops.
Okay, if you wanna talk about safe, accessible, welcoming public spaces, you're over here at A. Okay,
community care crisis response, you're at B. Public safety response prevention accountability, you're
back there at C. And then communication transparency and community trust, you're back there at D, okay?
And each group will work to understand the community needs, right? Thinking about those different sections.
What do we need? Potentially, what do we have?
Already what do we need to improve brainstorm those potential solutions? consider some benefits and
trade-offs and then Reflect and summarize so that the council member in your group will report back
to the whole thing This is not a moment where we all have to agree on something This is not a moment
where we have to have some final sort of
Product right. This is this is an idea generation time Where we just you know can continue to share
but delve in a little bit deeper on each of these areas Okay Now now it's Wyatt I
All right. Hi, everyone. My name is Wyatt Lawson. I'm with CGM. I'm excited that we have a group out
here ready to do some deliberation. And thank you, Hopi, for kind of talking through what that will
look like. In general, and actually first, can my facilitators raise their hands really quickly?
All of my facilitators for each group. Thank you, thank you. So these folks are here to help you all
guide this conversation. What about my note takers? Can you raise your hand? And then these folks are
here to make sure that I can hear everything you all say tonight. So as we work to this next part, I
will be compiling a report to the city council that will grab the findings, solutions, considerations
that you all come up with tonight to then present and hopefully a well packaged report to city council.
A couple things I want to go through before we get started are what we call community agreements. One
of the big things, and I hope he said it, we're not all going to agree on the solutions we talk about
this evening. In fact, it would be wild if we did. Preserving a certain level of difference between
our opinions of what should happen is going to be an important part tonight. Our facilitators will help
you do that. We will test and problem solve potential solutions so we get a good idea of what could
work as we work through these recommendations.
It's not an intention of this evening that we're all going to walk out of here saying we know exactly
how we're going to improve public safety in Bloomington. This is a step towards that.
And in order for us to have a good generative conversation, deliberation session, we all are going to
want to agree how we're going to engage this evening. So we do, this is about CGM, I guess I'm hopping
in front of myself a little bit more high. We're from CGM. We've been in Bloomington for over 30 years
doing conflict resolution, restorative justice, and facilitation work. We offer work within restorative.
more about harm and working within the criminal justice system, but also any kind of conflict. If you're
interested in learning more about CGM or maybe being a future facilitator at a table like this, please
come up to me at the end. I would love to talk a little bit more about what we do and who we are.
Now let's talk about community agreements. I'll jump in front of myself again. So we want to make sure
that we're all on the same page of how we want to engage this evening. So we have some pretty basic
community agreements. I'm going to read through them all, and then I'm going to ask you all if there
should be any additions or strikes from this list. So we all agree about how we want to engage this
evening. So our first community engagement is to speak from your own experience. Share what
you've experienced, noticed, or believe. You are always welcome to pass. So we're not going to require
you to give any kind of input
you're speaking from your experiences. We're not asking you to speak on behalf of other people. You
can bring the experiences that you have with different people in communities, but it should come from
your experience.
With that being said, if there's something you do not want to share, do not feel pressured to share.
You can always pass. We can always keep moving forward. Listening to understand, being curious about
experiences, perspectives that may be different from your own. Like I said, this is inevitable
in conversations around public safety. I hope that we find a lot of things that we may align on, but
there's going to be things that we have different opinions on. And that's part of this finding. So being
curious about the experience and perspectives that may be different from your own is important in how
we do this work. Making room for one another and being
mindful of how much space we're taking up so everyone has an opportunity to participate. My facilitators
will help in this process, but knowing that if you tend to share a lot, or maybe you're someone that
doesn't tend to share as much, knowing that when it's your time to speak up, please feel empowered to
do so, but also be conscious of how everybody in your group gets to participate.
And then it's okay to disagree, but do so with curiosity and hostility. It comes to that listening to
understanding, but we try to approach everything in this facilitative session with some level of curiosity.
A couple more, respect what other people share. Take the lessons and ideas from this conversation with
you, but leave the people's personal stories here. So I hope that you take the conversations that we
have tonight with you wherever you head. But if there are things shared that should stay confidential
or should stay in this room, I hope you also leave that in this space. So take the concept ideas that
we talk about, but leave those specific stories. And then of course, we work towards some level
of understanding before problem solving. We are asking you all to do some problem solving tonight, but
we want to make sure that we're
we're doing so in a level of understanding, not just trying to find that solution. If we come up with
a list of considerations tonight, that's a list that could be very generative when working towards public
safety solutions. So we don't have to agree on solutions, that's not the purpose of this evening. So
I wanna bring them all back up here. I know I went through them pretty quickly, but I'm gonna hold a
little bit of space for any additions or strikes. So if there's something up here that you feel like
is missing, I would welcome that from the group, or if there's something up here you don't feel like
is necessary.
I'll hold a couple more seconds. I'll take no strikes or additions that we all feel pretty comfortable
using these community agreements on how we'll engage this evening, because as facilitators and me as
your lead facilitator, I will hold you to that. So that will be my job of this evening. Okay.
The last piece, it's not quite part of the community agreements, but we mentioned it earlier, something
that came up in almost every session, in our first session, and quite a bit in our responses to our
surveys, is this aspect of belonging, inclusion, and diversity. So instead of holding it as a fully
separate group, because it's so intertwined with the four groups that we have in front of us, this is
something that I'll ask you all to hold as you have those conversations. Your facilitators will ask
questions that'll help
move towards this, but as we think about solutions, as we think about considerations, thinking about
how it will work towards belonging in the Bloomington community, but also who is here, who is not here,
and how those communities are interacting with the solutions that we're posing this evening. We're not
asking you to assume identities and make assumptions, but we're asking you to do some critical thinking
about the potential solutions that we may come up with this evening. Okay, I think we're ready.
to go, so we're not reporting out yet. But I want to go ahead and give an opportunity that if you are
not at a table that you would like to stay at, we can go ahead and do some moving. So for my table A,
if you could raise your hand, this is safe, accessible, and welcome public spaces. So we're up here
in the corner. You'll be with Julie and Grace. If you would like to join that table, please do so.
Table B, I believe up here, right? Yes, Table B is community care, crisis response, and supportive services.
So please feel free to shift to that table if you would prefer to be in that conversation. Table C in
my back corner is going to be public safety response, prevention, and accountability. And then Table
D over here in the corner is communication, transparency, and community trust. So I'll give you all
a few moments to get to where you should be, and then I'll also give my city council folks a moment
to get there as well.
Okay, so we will be in our small groups for the majority of this evening. I'm gonna bring us back together
at eight, 10, but I will be here to help facilitate how much time you have left. I'm here for help,
but I will turn it over to your facilitators to start our small group conversations. All right everyone,
we will bring it back to the large group. I hear so.
good conversations, I feel bad for putting a stop to it, but we've got a time limit tonight. I want
to make sure everyone gets out of here on time. All right, so one, thank you all for participating in
this small group deliberation session. I know there's a lot to consider, and each of these areas could
really go on for much longer than the 75 minutes we had to be able to deliberate this evening. So to
do our report outs,
We are going to ask, of course, our council members at each table to come up and report what they heard,
potential approaches, benefits, trade-offs, and maybe different perspectives and considerations. And
to go in no specific order but the order that we put you all in, I'm gonna have Group A go first. So
if my council member representative wants to come up from Group A, I'll have you go first.
Well, good evening, everyone. I'm happy to be the designee to report out from group A. We were talking
about community spaces, public space and perceptions of safety within those spaces, and my team will
tell me what I'm getting wrong here, but I would
We spend an awful lot of time talking about the need for information, and information flows, and how
that builds into people's perceptions about space and accessibility of those spaces. One example of
that is how people feel about going downtown because of the information that's available to them about
what's open, what's not open,
prevalence of things like homelessness and other things like that. And so the flow of information, how
we get information, how we provide information to people was sort of thing one that we discussed.
The other thing that we spent a good amount of time talking about were user-centered design and mixing
up both the needs here and the solutions. But we pointed out multiple physical spaces throughout the
city that don't feel necessarily like they were built for the people who use them. Parks being one example
where we love our parks and everything's fantastic about them, but they're not great to take kids to.
And so we were talking about the
need for things like fences, for example, if you have small children trying to take them to parks. And
then we talked an awful lot about follow through with public investment. So we talked about sidewalks.
tried to deal with these questions of where we should be prioritizing investments in sidewalks, both
concerns around areas, for example, where sidewalks just end or where there are no sidewalks, even though
there's lots of people using those spaces. We tried to struggle through the questions of, OK, well,
how then do you prioritize it, where we invest in all of these things? And finally, we talked a lot
about lighting in public spaces and the inconsistency
with which we seem to light public spaces. I think our solutions to almost all of these things is, well,
you know, spend more money and do those things. So at the end, we didn't really have time to solve this
question, but figuring out how then you prioritize spending with those type of desires in mind.
How did I do, team? Okay, they have nothing to add. All right, thank you, Group A.
Just, I'm gonna go Group B and then I'm gonna turn it to our folks online for their report out before
we go C and D, just to give you an idea so I don't spring it up on anybody, but I'll let Group B report
out next. Significantly shorter than the previous speaker. All right, so Group B, our topic was
community care and crisis response. And we very quickly homed in on shelter as the biggest need related
to public safety. And we talked about that we need to increase shelter options, including for groups
that really are not, don't really have options now, including people with pets, couples,
Women, they're very limited options, sex offenders, people with uncontrolled behavioral problems, people
that are not comfortable in aggregate settings, et cetera. And then we talked about coordination among
service providers, that there is a high level of coordination, but it could be better. For example,
ROI, what was that again? Release of information, we need a universal release of information form so
that people don't have to fill it out repeatedly when they come in contact with service providers. We
also talked about the need for more opportunities for people who have been unhoused or are unhoused
to share about their experiences, to overcome stigma and to build trust.
with members of the community. We talked about incentives and opportunities to hire Spanish speakers
to help provide supportive services. We talked about the importance of housing being accompanied with
ongoing wraparound support services. Doesn't end with housing. And that there needs to be buy-in on
the part of the person that's
newly receiving housing to agree to those wraparound services. And then finally increased visibility
of the services that are available and building community support for what is already working specifically
for city council. The group talked about the city council could exercise greater oversight by
holding grant recipients accountable, reviewing the data after grants are awarded to service providers
or shelter providers to make sure that the success is documented, that we know what works. Also, follow
up on the homeless coordinator position in the mayor's office and make sure that's working well and
living up to the funding commitment.
And overall, making sure we don't stigmatize the people who are struggling in our community. And finally,
a note about messaging. We talked about city leaders are important bearers of the message that we need
to understand and uplift the voices of people experiencing homelessness and the lack of security that
comes along with homelessness. So that is sort of, did I miss anything? Okay, thank you.
Thank you, Group B. Now I'm going to turn it over to our folks online to report for their conversations,
which will kind of cover, I'm assuming, a wider group. So I'll turn it over to Councilman Marullo.
Thank you. Appreciate it. We were allowed to choose our own topic. And so it was settled on that we
would unpack communication transparency and community trust. And I was joined by Heather and Kevin.
And there's a number of topics, subtopics that we unpacked. And the first one was budgetary. So the
question was, taxes are going to be raised soon. We have a PSAP, which is a funding for dispatcher.
The PSAP fund should have been set up
some years ago in 2017, but the funds were commingled with FIAS lit. The question is, how did this happen?
Yet now taxes need to be raised for dispatch. The fact remains that the county has in their PSAP fund
about $3.2 million. The question was,
why hasn't this been transferred to the city? There seems to be some question about the city can't seem
to attract and retain personnel at central dispatch. There seems to be a problem related to that. If
it is the concern of the council to have an outcome-based budget, then obviously one outcome that we
would desire of
public safety would be the optimum operational conditions at central dispatch. We would want the most
skilled dispatchers for public safety and we would want to retain them and attrition indicates otherwise.
It's something for us to examine and consider. Then the topic regarding community trust turned to concerns
about cybercrime,
and the vulnerabilities that public safety should include hardening of our cybersecurity for protection
of basic services. So that was a concern. Along the lines of communication, there was some frustration
that the public doesn't have adequate time at times to have been able to have their say.
And yet there are some topics that need to be addressed that are complicated and shouldn't be relegated
to a three-minute limitation for public comment. So either allowing more time for the community to present,
or the idea was to have a consideration for an ombudsman, somebody independent of both the mayor and
the council,
that could vet concerns from the public, explore them, and then present to both the administration and
the council. And then lastly, regarding the communication aspects, came the idea of further collaboration.
And this specifically focused on substance use and treatment in our community.
that we need more of a comprehensive approach, that programs in the jail are very important, but services
are still lacking and are very key. The downtown resource officers are instrumental, but further
collaboration is really needed because people need a way out of their addiction. Peer support is crucial
for success. The numbers indicate that.
people who have power in our community, i.e. the city council and the mayor, have the resources to join
in the collaboration. And we concluded by saying that this has been, in terms of communication, this
has been a very good discussion and the participants in our group were optimistic that deliberation
sessions like this could yield good outcomes.
Thank you. Thank you to my folks who joined virtually claps for councilman. Okay, we'll go to a group
see who is my back corner and Thank you So group see it was public safety response prevention
and accountability and I I think that we
spent our time talking about a couple of different things for the most part. One was communication.
And the other was actual resources. So in terms of communication, the importance of not rushing even
in crisis situations. And we talked about social media and that idea of rolling out when big things
are happening and how to do that in a way that doesn't make the community
Extra anxious right in the way that sometimes social media can do and then and we also talked about
this idea of whether enforcement is complementary or competing with compassion and other response types
and how to kind of make sure that those responses work together in ways that serve our community so
in terms of
Oh, and then we also, this is kind of communication too, that just interacting with safety response
can just be very anxiety provoking and can be very traumatic for the people who might call 911, for
the dispatchers, for the response, for any bystanders, and for the person themselves who are actually
having this crisis, regardless of what kind of crisis it is, right? Whether it's a personal mental health
crisis or a vehicular accident or some larger sort of issue
it's all very traumatic and stressful. And so in that respect, we kind of talked about the importance
of follow through service, which is kind of like some wraparound services that we've talked about before,
but also just follow through in terms of that trauma response and that anxiety response and how can
we do that for our community so that the whole experience of interacting with our public safety professionals
in whatever aspect doesn't become any more stressful than it already has to be.
In terms of possible solutions or things that we could do to respond to some of this, there was a general
kind of understanding, especially amongst our table in this realization that Bloomington has a lot of
services that people don't necessarily know that much about or don't know the details of the things
that are here or don't know the protocols of what is happening. And so the importance of asset mapping
in order to capture all of those resources and then somehow communicate
Communicating that asset mapping to the community as this like education piece we talked about the importance
of the ability to address the root causes and to prevent that need for a response in the beginning and
that part of that is some of those services that we do have and that kind of preventative
those preventative aspects of what we do. And then we talked a lot about education and marketing of
those resources and what can we do. I mentioned the, it's not Residence Academy, it's the police have
a specific, is it just called Residence Academy even at the Police Department? Thank you. Where they have,
Several weeks actually of sessions about the police department and something like that could be expanded
to talk more about response protocols and what happens and how our How our police officers are trained
but also the other resources that we have within our dispatch department for example within our community
and potentially, you know helping make sure people understand like if you call 9-1-1 and
This is what might happen if you call 911 about this kind of thing, this is the kind of response you
can expect, and you can also call these other numbers if you need something else instead. We mentioned
211, we mentioned 988, that those things aren't necessarily as well advertised as they could be, and
about how important it is to have that transparency of our resources, to know what their plans are and
their protocols are, and
I don't want to leave out that we thought it was very important for solutions to include IU Monroe County
and the city in terms of an integrated service and I Think I got everything did I get everything over
there y'all? Thank you All right, I welcome up our last group for the last report out
Hello everyone. Thank you for being here. I know that it is past 830 so I will be as brief as I can
be My group was about community transparency and community communication transparency and community
trust and most of what we talked about has a lot to do with information both on the council side and
the members of the public side and so we discussed a lot of different ways that we can increase that access to
Information and so on the council side we discussed council members being more aware of what's currently
out there in regard to community organizations But also the resources that are available within the
Bloomington Police Department and the Bloomington Fire Department We also talked about
expanding community partnerships so that council members are more informed when they're making policy
about public safety and council members as individuals meeting with leaders within their district and
for at-large members across the city to better understand just different perspectives on public safety
and also just what's going on in the community and issues that might arise throughout the year
On the public side, we talked a lot about gun safety and making sure that people just know how to safely
maintain a weapon. As we know, the state of Indiana allows people to buy guns fairly freely. And so
while that might not be a city issue in itself, we can take on the responsibility of educating people
on how to safely have
Firearms the last thing that we discussed is while there is a county reporting system primarily for
weather Issues and there's a university reporting system also for public safety same with MCC SC The
city itself does not have any type of reporting system. So in terms of action items Developing one of
those for the city in terms of public safety might be beneficial that concludes my report. Thank you very much
All right, well thank you all for participating. I know we're right at time so I'm gonna move us to
the last couple pieces here. The last big ask of us this evening is to complete an exit survey. So this
both allows you to dive a little deeper into what we were talking about this evening but also gives
us a little bit of feedback about how this process was this evening. So I've got a QR code up on the
screens here if you all don't mind taking a few moments to scan that and we will
do our quick exit survey. I try to keep my surveys below four minutes to complete, so it should be a
pretty easy one to complete.
Who knows what it is?
give you all a few more moments to check out that exit survey and then we'll do a wrap up and let everyone
go for the evening.
Okay, so I'm gonna go ahead and get us wrapped up. So before folks leave, I believe we have one more
step. I think, are you wrapping us up? All right everybody, I'm gonna turn it over to our council member
to wrap us up this evening and then we'll go from there. It's all you. Yes. All right.
know that it is late and everyone wants to go home, so I will keep this as brief as possible. Thank
you all so much for being here tonight. This was a great way for me and my colleagues to better identify
what we can do as individuals to better inform ourselves on public safety issues and make better informed
decision making, but also better understand how we as a body can move forward legislatively. So I think
you could expect to see potential legislative proposals in the next
six months or so, and none of my colleagues are giving me terrified looks, so I think six months is
a good timeline. So keep an eye out, and again, thank you so much for everyone being here and sharing
your experience. I know that public safety can be an uncomfortable topic for a lot of people, and so
we just appreciate the amount of people who showed up to share their experience. And thank you so much
to C-Jam, who has been lovely throughout this process.
And also, yes. And thank you very much to council members Piedmont-Smith and Stasberg for planning this.
And cookies are available, courtesy, I believe, of council member Piedmont-Smith. They're on the table.