All right, it's 5 o'clock. I'm calling to order the May 28th meeting of the Bloomington Historic Preservation
Commission. Staff, please call the roll. Right now across. Oh, sorry. Commissioner Cross. Commissioner
Baker. Here. Commissioner, Treasurer Butler. Here. Either one. Commissioner Castaneda. Commissioner
Duesner. Here. Commissioner Duffy. Here. Commissioner Golden. Here.
Chair Hacker. Here. Commissioner Schlegel. Here. We have quorum. Excellent. Next up, approval of the
minutes from May 14th. Does anybody have any edits? Is there a motion? I'll take move. OK. Commissioner
Golden is moved to approve. It was seconded by Commissioner Butler. Any discussion? Seeing done, I think
we're ready to call the vote. OK. Co-chair Baker. Yes. Treasurer Butler. Yes.
Commissioner Duesner? Yes. Commissioner Duffy? Yes. Commissioner Golden? Yes. Chair Hacker? Yes. Commissioner
Schlegel? Yes. Minutes are approved. Excellent. Next up, we have staff review for two COAs. Mr. St.
Louis, take it away. So starting off, our first COA of the evening, 2630 for 902 West Kirkwood Avenue
in the near west side historic district. Petitioner is Bobby Booze.
This is a request for the installation of solar panels. The property in question was built in phases
between the 1960s and 1970s. 902 West Kirkwood is an L-shaped concrete block commercial building with
two wings built around a parking lot at the southwest corner. There are solar panels on the roof of
the wing parallel to the road and the large picture window on the gable end of the building perpendicular
to the road.
The owners are proposing to install additional solar panels on the west-facing roof, which you can see
indicated here. Current solar installation is located up here, and staff approves COA 2630. The proposed
solar installation is set close to the roof surface, and the pitch would not obscure damage or, sorry,
and would not obscure or damage any historical features
Okay, next item, COA 2632 for 642 North Madison Street in the Showers Furniture Historic District. Petitioner
is Dawn Gray from Spring Point Architects. Built in 1915, the Showers Brothers Furniture Planing Mill
has been substantially rehabilitated into office space.
In February 2026, the Bloomington Historic Preservation Commission staff approved COA 2613
for the installation of a rooftop heat pump. It was subsequently determined, however, that the exterior
unit location proposed was too far from interior components to function properly. Formally, the request
was to install it on the roof at this location, which has now been amended to
Installing the same unit on the eastern alley facing wall And staff approved coa 2632 The new mechanical
equipment will be located close to other mechanical equipment on the mills alley facing elevation as
discussed with petitioners both in their petition and subsequently
Attaching the unit at mortar joints will minimize damage to the existing brick. All right, next up we
have certificates of appropriateness for commission review, followed by demolition delays. For each
item on the agenda, the Historic Preservation Program Manager will first present a staff report, filled
in here if the petitioner has any additional information about their request, followed by a public comment.
Public comment concludes commissioners will be able to ask questions to staff, the petitioner,
and the public. We ask that petitioners, the public, and commissioners refrain from speaking until addressed
by the chair unless the question is directly addressed to them. Following commission questions, the
chair will entertain a motion from a commissioner regarding the petition. Once a motion is made, we
will then open up a discussion of the item for members of the commission only.
Finally, once the commissioners have each had a chance to speak, the commission will vote on the petition.
We encourage all commissioners, petitioners, and members of the public to be civil and respectful at
all times. So first up, we have COA 2631. Is the petitioner present? Is there anyone online?
We have a not the petitioner. We have a Maggie petty John for value built any person named Eric. OK,
well, if the petitioner is not here, we can move this to the end of the agenda. So I guess next up we
would hear demolition delay, so that'd be demolition delay 2607. And is petitioner here for this? It
could be coming.
The petitioner listed here is 1301 North Walnut LLC. Yeah, they don't have to be here for demolition
delay. I was just checking. But we can check for that. I noticed that on the DD report, it doesn't have
the address. It doesn't? I found it in the agenda. OK.
I guess I just had not included it. Wow. Okay. All right. So the address, as you can see on your agenda,
is 527 North Prow Avenue. Built in 1945 by developer and auctioneer F. Harold Hancock, this 450 square
foot gable front house sits on the cement block foundation.
An open pedimented portico fronts the entrance. There's a small rear shed addition. Most of the exterior
materials have been replaced. Hancock and his wife, Mary, lived in this house for several years before
renting it out. From 1957 through 2002, the house was rented by Sarah Swift, who attended IU
for approximately 10 years before taking an archiving job with the university. Her mother, Dorothy,
a draftswoman for Indiana University facilities department,
moved in with her after her retirement in 1970. Sarah Swift bought the house from Hancock in 1975 and
lived there until her death. Staff recommends the release of demolition delay 2607. All right, thank
you very much. Would the petitioner like to add anything to the staff report? So we have a, is value
bill then the petitioner? Yeah. Okay, thank you. I've asked that person to unmute.
to have anything they wish to add. You don't have to. My microphone was not working. That's okay. The
only information that I can provide that they've given me is that I'm not quite sure but likely a small
house due to the size of the lot will be in place there. That's all I've got. Okay, thank you. Are there
any members of the public who would like to comment on this demolition delay? There's none in person,
anyone online?
Nobody online. All right. Hearing none, let's turn to Commissioner Comments. We'll start with Commissioner
Schlegel. Do you have any questions? Any questions? Questions, sorry. None at this time. Commissioner
Baker, any questions? No questions. Commissioner Butler, questions? This is such a small house. I mean,
historically, it's not super
But such a small house would be R. I. B. interested in moving it would that be a possibility.
Well I'm asking. Mr Samuels gosh I I am not checked with B. R. I. about it. Is is there a way we could
do that with. Out delaying this arm without delaying arm.
So maybe Karen might be able to weigh in. Just all I can say is he looks at the packets. And I think
I'm not aware of any lots that we have, VRI has right now. And it's an expense. I'm sure VRI would love
to do it. There's no place for it to go. There's nothing. Yeah.
Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
We're not twenty six oh seven is there a second. All right commissioner Baker has seconded all right-
comments you can make comments first if you'd like. Comments commissioner Baker any comments. Always
stand up to release.
Yeah, I'm sad to see a small house, especially with a story like this one, just a unique story. And
to tear down a small house to build a small house feels ironic. But I don't think there's much we can
do, unfortunately, with our either or options. OK. Commissioner Butler. Yeah, I agree with everything
that Commissioner Schlegel just said. And Commissioner Baker, I think it is awful to have
tear down the very type of houses that Bloomington needs, but I don't have a lever I can pull. Commissioner
Duesner. They all said it better than I could. All right, Commissioner Duffy. I think it's a cute little
house. It reminds me of a small house that I own and I've never had trouble renting out. I hate to see
it go, but I have no choice. Okay. You already commented. For me,
Future use is not under our purview, so we can't consider what's going to happen. We do not have enough
information for make a case for historical significance or architectural significance, so I think we
just have to let this one go. So that's my comment. Any secondary comments from anyone? All right. Hearing
none, I think we're ready for vote. Could you call the roll, please? There's a motion on the floor to
release DD2607 at 527 North Prowell. We'll take a roll call vote.
Co-chair Baker? Yes. Treasurer Butler? Yes. Commissioner Duesner? Yes. Commissioner Duffy? Yes. Commissioner
Golden? Yes. Chair Hacker? Yes. Commissioner Schlegel? Yes. That motion to release passes 7-0. All right.
Thank you very much. I think we will go back to certificates of appropriateness
You should probably read my paper. Gosh, I forgot about it again. Do you need that? Yes, please. It
will continue to happen. Yeah. Commissioner Baker, please go ahead. Today regarding the property located
at 527 North Prow, the Historic Preservation Commission declares that it got notice of proposed demolition,
partial demolition, and requests the staff prepare a formal report on the property.
but the property on the HPC agenda will be officially considered from a historic designation under BMC 8.08.01D.
All right, thank you very much. I think we will go back to COAs. COA 2631 is the petitioner here. Yes.
And your name is? Noah Rogers. Noah Rogers, okay, excellent. All right, Mr. Sandlicks, please take your place.
this off. Nine twenty three East University in the Elm Heights Historic District. Petitioner is Noah
Rogers. This request is for let's see I want to give a little background. In February of twenty twenty
four the Bloomington Historic Preservation Commission approved COA twenty four oh three for the expansion
of a small nineteen twenties garage.
driveway and rear addition, connecting the garage to the primary residence. The COA has expired after
the two years allotted, and the property owner is returning to request a new COA. I'm gonna run you
through, I hope you were able to read some of the fine print, which does discuss topics including materials,
which there's gonna be an effort to
Obviously the entire expansion of the garage can't use this but we're using some of the brick from Some
of the original walls in the garage that are being taken out for this expansion And I received clarification
that the garage door which was originally proposed for the sort of eastern
addition to the garage in 2024 it's as pictured up here is still the one that's being considered for
this renewal of the certificate. Staff recommends the approval of COA 2631. While the proposed addition
would more than double the size of the garage much of the expanded area will be minimally visible from
the public right of way. The proposed new garage door would face the primary facade
there does not appear to be an alternative entry route through an alley or side entrance. The materials
selected for the addition are compatible with the design of the house and existing garage. The front-facing
eave of the proposed addition differentiates the garage expansion from the original structure, and the
garage would be reasonably
could be reasonably returned to its original appearance with a retention of historic materials. Existing
trees will not be demolished, and the expanded driveway is not out of scale with the neighborhood. Does
the petitioner have anything that he would like to add? We will be saving all the original brick that
we can, obviously, and just be using it on the facade of the front side of the building.
And there's going to be some fiber cement, I think, a little bit on the back, which right now he has
cedar siding. So I don't think that's going to change at all on the backside. Any questions I can answer?
OK, thank you. Is there any public comment regarding this certificate of appropriateness online, since
no one is here? OK, we'll turn to commissioner questions. Commissioner Golden, do you have any questions
about this? I do not have any questions. Commissioner Duffy.
I wondered about the garage door, so I appreciate the clarification. Do you have a plan for the old?
Are those doors original that are on there now? Do they appear to be? They may be, but they're in complete
disrepair. OK. And a lot of the garage is in military. So they're not even worth saving, in your opinion?
Yeah. Somebody restore or somebody might want them. That's the main thing. He's kind of wanting.
Mr. Hayes is, you know, in his early 80s, and his main function is wanting somewhat of a heated, warm
space he can easily get into and park his vehicle. Sure, I understand that. Yeah, if I tried to make
him reuse the door, he would definitely hope I could change that. No, I'm not even intending to suggest
that you keep it, because I know how people are about garage doors. I just have a little soft spot in
my heart for old-timey garage doors. I love reusing anything we can as well.
Or saving it, or offering it to somebody else who might. I have a giant shop full of old stuff that
I'm probably never going to use, but you know. Maybe you can find a corner for them. OK, that's all.
Commissioner, do you have any questions? No. Commissioner, by the way, questions.
It looks like in one of those photographs that it's what they call a ribbon driveway, I think, where
it just has the two rails of pavement going into the, which were popular with some of the earliest
automobiles in the 1920s. It saved you pavement. So I'm assuming you're going to replace it with a full
driveway or? Nope. We're hoping to leave the ribbon alone. So kind of right where Doug started.
We're hoping to not affect the driveway so we're going to do our best. Okay, great. Thank you. Commissioner
Baker, any questions? No questions. Commissioner Schlegel. My other question was just going to be the
plans that were submitted before, are these just the same ones? Exactly. It's just there's been no upgrades
or changes? Yes, correct. Okay. I didn't see any but I was like I also can't read these super well so.
Yeah no I don't believe it don't change anything. Okay I just want to double check so thank you. All
right you took my question so. All right I think we're at the time where I will consider a motion. To
approve COI twenty six. A commissioner golden has moved to approve twenty six. I'll send you to commissioner
Duffy has seconded.
I believe I was told the commission when this first came through, and I proved it then. So I prove it
now. Commissioner Duffy? Yeah, I don't have any reason to oppose it at all. It looks like a very nice
design. Commissioner Duesner? Yeah, I thought it was a thoughtful plan. Commissioner Butler? I agree
that it's a very thoughtful plan. I appreciate keeping the brick in the driveway as much as you can.
That's great.
going to go to approve. Commissioner Baker. I agree with the staff recommendation. Commissioner Schlegel.
Yeah, I remember when we brought this in and had discussions, and I think this is a great design. So
I proved it then, and I'll definitely be for it again now. I see. Basically, the only thing that's changing
is the time frame. And so we're just asking for more time. It's already approved once. I see no reason
to re-litigate this, so I am in favor. All right. Any secondary comments?
All right, are you hearing none? I think we're ready to vote. OK, the motion down the floor is for COA
2631. We'll take a roll call vote. Co-chair Baker? Yes. Treasurer Butler? Yes. Commissioner Duesner?
Yes. Commissioner Duffy? Yes. Commissioner Golden? Yes. Chair Hacker? Yes. Commissioner Schlabel? Yes.
That motion passes 7-0. Awesome. All right, thank you very much. Thank you very much.
All right that brings us next item on the agenda is old business Is there any old business you want
to share mr. Sandweis? You all should have received emails from Jennifer Crosley the Deputy clerk about
training for board and commission members that's because There's sort of been an updated
board and commission member code of conduct. So if you could sign up for one of those sessions that
she's mentioned, please do so. And if you don't, then she will come into our commission and
make a presentation. So it depends on how late you want to stay one night. I haven't cared enough to
stay up there. That's fun. All right.
For new business, I have a few announcements. First of all, the History Center garage sale is going
to be taking place June 12th, 13th, and 15th. Also, if you're a History Center member or you work for
Cook, which I believe none of you do, June 10th is going to be an early sale day. Additionally, I'd
like to give a shout out to Melody Dusner in her class, which won an
IU Center for Rural Engagement Award for very relevant to us research on a stone carver in Odon, Indiana,
named Ira Correll, which culminated in the installation of an Indiana historic marker. Application.
Application, application. Though they did consult with Jeremy, and he used to hand those out, so. They're heavy.
And... no, that does it for my announcements. All right. Commissioner Comments. Any Commissioner Comments?
Anyone like to say anything? How come everybody else gets to pick over all that good stuff at the History
Center before HPC members? Shouldn't we be included in that elite group? There's enough in there you
can't even tell. I don't need it anymore. Sure.
I'd like to comment on, I'd like to thank everyone for their support on the Cottage Grove Conservation
District. It was great to see how many people showed up. Obviously want to thank Commissioner Butler,
Amy Butler for their tireless work to move that along. It was really nice to see that get passed. I
feel like that was a good victory for our community. So just good job everybody on that. That's all
my comments.
So I guess next up would be public comments. Does anyone online like to make a comment? The person that's
online left. Holy cow. All right. Well, that brings us to the end of our agenda. So this meeting is
adjourned. 24 minutes.