So this is May 29th for the Bloomington Monroe County MPO Policy Committee meeting. So I'd like to call
the meeting to order and introductions and I'll begin to my right. As proxy for director of public works
Adam Wason.
Good morning, Becky Packer in dot Sam Tobin hockstatt Citizens Advisory Committee Scott Ferris Monroe
County Planning Commission Andrew Seabor serving as proxy for Mayor Thompson Lisa Ridge Monroe County
Highway Director Hopi Stossburg Bloomington Common Council And I believe we do not have any members
Uh, committee members online and moving on approval of agenda for mate 29, 2026 motion to approve. We
have a motion and a second. I believe we can just do an overall. We don't need to do a roll call vote.
So all those in favor for approving the agenda for mate 29, 2026, please do so by saying aye. Aye.
any nays? Seeing none. Motion carries. Um, moving on to approval of minutes from April 24th, 2026. I
have a motion. Uh, also there, I want to make note for everybody present that there was a revised version
of the minutes that were I believe published yesterday. That right, Katie? Okay. And so
What we're voting on is that revised version for those folks who, if you took a look to make sure you
know what you're voting on? I can't quite hear you. If you could speak more into the mic, that would
be great. I'm sorry? I can't quite hear you. If you could speak more into the mic, that would be great.
I'll repeat what I said then. How's that? Better. Much better. All right. So there really were two versions
of the minutes that were revised, I believe, yesterday by the MPO staff. What it added was a reflection that the
County Attorney Schilling was present at the meeting and actually made comments. That was the only additions
that were added to the minutes and that's what we're voting on. Correct. Correct. OK. So I have a motion
to approve those minutes. We have a motion and a second. Any board comments any public comment seeing
none. All those in favor of proving the minutes from April 24th do so by saying aye aye.
Any opposed Motion carries Communications from fair or from chair or vice chair. I don't have any comments
today And neither does our vice chair Communications from officers and or committees tech committee
Yes, the MPO technical advisory committee met this past Wednesday and
Also considered the items that are on today's agenda and recommended approval. Thank you. Thank you.
And citizens similarly the citizens advisory committee met on Wednesday and also considered the tip
amendments and recommended them for approval by this committee. Thank you. Moving on reports from MPO staff.
There is a news release from the Indiana Department of Transportation regarding single-lane closure
planned on Interstate 69, Green and Monroe counties. This falls within the urbanized area. The Indiana
Department of Transportation will be conducting geotechnical repairs along the corridor. This is an
area prone to landslide. I think this has happened at least two to three times previously.
The soils are very unstable. They've done a number of things before but it needs work again. So the
single enclosure will will occur as noted in the Press release. Does anybody have any questions? Okay,
if not, I'll move on to the next item item 6.2 2026 city of Bloomington
ADA transition plan. This is the draft the draft comment period is already closed City of Bloomington
will finalize the ADA transition plan and it will be published in July The reason this is included in
the packet is because the MPO is housed and has meetings within the city of Bloomington this is to show
that we are in compliance with all the ADA criteria and
This will the final document will be transmitted to the Indiana Department of Transportation Federal
Highway Administration and Federal Transit Administration in July Any questions anybody on this? Okay
item six point three this is a memorandum prepared on Bloomington trance's proposed service improvements and
and the public hearing notice, which was external to us. I attended all three of the public meetings.
First one was at Ivy Tech State College. Second and third ones were at the downtown transfer center
for Bloomington Transit. All three public hearings were very well attended. At least 10 to 20 people
at each one of the meetings.
That involves a consolidation of route 3 what was previously known as route 3 and route 13 into a new
route of route 16 the reason we attended and the reason we're Making you aware of this is the fact that
this route was outside of the normal service area of Bloomington transit. It's outside of the city's
corporate limits into Monroe County and Bloomington transit operates
In this area and operates this route with supplemental support from the county Nero County Council through
an interlocal agreement The new route Hits all the marks. They've looked at seven different alternative
Combinations before they struck this one make sure that it ensures Access to Ivy Tech State College.
It's also serves
Cook Medical and serves another former Baxter pharmaceutical out in that area. There are no rides that
they are aware of that are coming from trip generation, trip distribution to any one of those two, but
to Ivy Tech State College there is. This thing also includes major shopping destinations such as Game
Art Sam's Club. I'm trying to think of Rural King and others in the area. The route will take effect
In July, I believe it is. There's also a push here too by Bloomington Transit with the unveiling of
micro transit. So anyone who feels like they're outside of this current route can also ask for micro
transit service. It's been an extension of service hours Monday through Friday, six to 10 p.m.
Saturday 8 10 to 6 10 Departs every 30 minutes Departs the Transit Center at 10 and 40 on the hour three
buses on route 16 at all times and the bus will stop at each each Every 30 minutes. There's also Sunday
service available From 8 10 a.m. To 10 p.m. The previous route
Route 3 and Route 13, it had low ridership for the last 12 months. The ridership sometimes was only
a single rider or perhaps zero riders. So therefore, with this development of combination of the new
route, they hope to boost the ridership substantially with a particular emphasis on Ivy Tech State College.
It starts June 1st. I'm sorry Bloomington Transit Board Doug's not here Bloomington Transit Board already
voted to approve this Questions anyone Moving to the next item go ahead. Oh, that's right Six point
four on page 60 of the contract
This is a memo notifying you of a change to the tip that staff made since the last meeting. Some changes
to the tip don't require committee review. This particular change, there were two changes, one transit,
one non-transit. This change for transit was to the EV mobile chargers project. They were changing the
funding source.
They also increased the federal amount. So I believe this was a chunk of change that was flexed to them
from the MPO in the past and they're applying it to this project and they're trying to use up those
flex funds before September. So they increase the federal total. They also had to therefore increase
the local share and of course the project total.
You can see it went from 350,000 to 453,000 All transit projects that get federal funding from FTA have
to be in our tip and do get reviewed by the committees But this was this was just a modification The
next memo is for a non-transit update to the tip this was for Monroe County's Dillman Road bridge number
83 replacement project and
Due to environmental impacts they will be moving the bridge program funds they're receiving from the
state and also their local match funds for the right of way phase from fiscal year 26 to 27. And you
can see that change reflected here. There was no change in amounts just fiscal year.
Any questions. Happy has a question. Hey you said in the memo that these are considered administrative
modifications and so they don't require approval. Can I feel like we've had similar sort of like small
changes before that did require approval. So can you like just explain a little bit more about what
classifies as an administrative modification and what doesn't.
Yeah, good question. That information is not in our tip right now, but it will be in the next one. And
actually, we'll be bringing this topic to your July policy committee meeting. So there will be a lot
more detail then. But essentially, per federal law, significant changes to the tip have to be reviewed
by local committees.
But insignificant changes don't and so examples of significant changes would be like an increase in
project funding above a certain percentage or the addition of a new project to the tip and then a lot
there's a lot of gray area there too, but there is what in dot requires a
For their amendments or modifications. So essentially they have their own public review process they
consider certain things to be amendments and versus modifications and that depends on how long they
put something out for public review or whether whether they need to do public review and then essentially
we have the same powers here to To kind of decide what we consider an amendment or modification beyond
those big ticket
threshold items that are very clear in the federal law. And so that's we. Yeah. We plan to talk more
about that to you next next meeting. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Item six point six pack. Okay. Please refer
to your packet here. We've got a.
Memorandum from the Indiana Department of Transportation, the Office of Traffic Safety. These are changes
to the injury severity determination method for crash data analysis in the state of Indiana. State of
Indiana has had a, well, it's had a evolving definition of what is a suspected serious injury and what
is a serious injury. This methodology is proven
somewhat unstable in terms of the actuality of the injuries over the last period of time. The Office
of Traffic Safety is therefore rolling out a brand new methodology which is consistent with 21, 22 other
states within the United States of the national standards.
This also coincides with the rollout. I have a new software package called Ashtoware safety which brings
the state into an alignment with 22 20 yeah 21 22 other states the Better lines with the national best
practices also for how injury severity is determined And if you look in the packet
You'll note that 26, sorry, just a second. We'll go through this. The crash severity level will be changed
within the Ares data reporting form filled out by the officers at the scene of the crashes. And the
new crash severity level will add in eight different items.
called a crush injury, a fracture, dislocation, internal paralysis, severe bleeding, severe burn, severed
or unconscious states. Both incapacitating and non-incapacitating injury crashes will be counted as
suspected serious injury crashes depending on the nature of the most severe injury. Whether someone
is transported to the hospital or not will not be relevant.
previous or current definition is that they're transported to the hospital. It's considered a suspected
serious injury. Also, there will be an injury scale, the rollout of a new injury scale for the state
of Indiana called the CABO standard, K-A-B-C-O standard. K will stand for fatality. A will be suspected
serious injury. B will be a non-suspected serious injury.
C will be a minor injury, O will be a property damage type crash. There's also detailed documentation
in here about how errors will be handled. Also, the state of Indiana is adopting a brand new updated
crash cost for highway safety analysis. This consists of the same process used by the Federal Highway
Administration, where the costs of a fatality or
and serious injuries are all based on economic crash unit costs, $20.24 in comprehensive unit costs
of using $20.24. I won't go into any other of the detail on this because it's fairly technical, but
I'll be happy to answer any questions that you may have.
question. Yes. So and I'm sure there's an obvious answer here. This will not be retroactively applied
to any of the crash data that were reported in the past correct. It's from this whenever this is put
in place from that point forward. I know we plan to update the crash dashboard. Well we don't I shouldn't
say that we're talking about what our approach will be.
given these new this new information. So we may be updating the crash dashboard to reflect this process
although we'll only be able to go back to 2022. So we'll probably have to let go of if we want to keep
everything in the same with the same analysis we'll probably have to let go of 2019 to 2022 data so
that everything is using the same methodology but well
To be yeah to to be determined. We'll have to figure that out by October 1st. Thank you. Yeah. In terms
of modification to the record is that the responsibility of the responding officers then to follow up
to potentially modify the record in terms of injury severity. Well in terms of fatality.
Well, yeah, just I mean it's how to how to handle errors and then it gave some examples in terms of
You know a minor bruise that might Elevate or a fracture dislocation that might be clarified in terms
of what exactly you know a minor broken nose Which is different than like a leg broken in four places
and so I'm just trying to figure out who like where the responsibility would lay to make that correction and
Correction lies with the officer Okay state of Indiana and ourselves Aren't able to alter those records,
right? I mean we could categorize them We as in Indiana Department of Transportation Office of traffic
safety and ourselves could subsequently categorize them differently but for changing the record know
that responsibilities exclusively with the officer completing the the report itself and
And in fairness to the officers under time constraints I mean to appear at the accident to complete
the report Sometimes the reports aren't completed till several days after the crash You know preliminary
information is is placed down and then comes after that Katie can tell you that we wait until 35 We
wait a period for the fatalities to make sure that the fatalities are accurately recorded
The state defines a fatality is a death that occurs within 30 days of the accident and so that's why
we wait Two and a half months or so after the quarter to pull the crash data to give time for Those
updates to the the crash entries are to the crash reports But regarding this paragraph here the crap
about the crash narratives I think some I think some my guess is that some there will still be some
you know, cleaning up of data that will occur at the Transportation Safety Office at NDOT. If they have
access to do that, I think they will with their new system. And so they reference here that crash narratives
will be an important part of verifying things. So they have talked about using AI to help with cleaning
up data. Don't know if that will happen, but
At the very least there will will be able to review data We have there's a lot of people here who still
have access to crash reports and the narratives and we can still We can still review the data to clean
it up. We can well, we'll probably be able to submit that Submit those changes then to end up which
would be great because currently we we do clean it up We don't we don't currently modify injuries and
change those fields we we
We mainly just clean up location right now. But in the future, if there is something, a narrative that
seems to go against the injury classification, we'll be able to submit that request to INDOT and then
have them change that at the source of the data, which is much preferable to changing it locally here
and then them having a different data set. So a lot will depend on the rollout of the new software too.
And and kind of as a follow-up will the public have access to these crash reports? So like will the
public be able to like like go online somewhere with with a crash and see that it was you know an a
level crash or That kind of thing Do you know that I mean there are privacy constraints on all of us
so only in terms of the location time of day and
What I would call the generalized information will be there. Yes, but no personal information will be
available to anybody from the public No, right, but you could go on say some kind of map and go. Oh,
there's you know, there was this crash on this date Involving two vehicles and it was and and there
was an a crash that had a that kind of level of severity Yeah, the the ash aware safety
data will have that available once the data has been uploaded and posted through the software. The only
other thing I want to add is Katie mentioned it has an AI component to the software. We call it we gently
call it a learning software in that it will take time probably at least a year or perhaps slightly longer
where it will correct some of the reports where the location was
was made referencing everything will be done by GPS GIS to locate and then in identifying consistent
errors that learning component will hopefully standardize all of the crashes so that we have a much
better we Department Transportation Office of Traffic Safety and ourselves will have a much better idea
of where when why how
Then also the engineering departments will have a better Better opportunity to apply the appropriate
corrective crash countermeasure Does that Yeah, I think it does do you know what kind of lag time they'll
be on that site I mean this is kind of up to the state right in terms of when they get something uploaded
I guess it's like so if an accident happens
Say today, how long might it be before? At least a month at least a month simply because of the fatality
issue And sometimes longer than that depending on the lag the new software will accelerate that considerably
Okay, and then we will be partnering with the office of traffic safety on the crash software itself
Beta testing will begin shortly
Shortly meaning in the next few weeks and then full implementation software began October 1st which
coincides with the beginning of the state federal fiscal year. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Well we'll all
be learning from this process. Any additional questions.
Item 6.8 on page 71 of the combined packet. This is a 2025 brief overview of the crashes, mostly fatalities
and serious injury numbers for 2025. GIS, the city GIS team is working on getting that data up on the
dashboard right now, but it's been cleaned up
They just have a couple more steps. And so this total crashes of 3,662 that does include crashes that
took place on both private and public property. So keep in mind that the local public agencies when
they do their analysis, typically just look at the crashes that occur in the public right of way.
Something of note, which we hope to kind of track this number and look at the numbers in the past as
well in the future, but 10 out of 14 occurred within the MPOs metropolitan planning area, which is like
our jurisdiction of control. And then 43 out of 62 of the serious injuries occurred within the MPA.
And we can, we'll update these numbers.
Uh, in the future, once, once we, uh, once the serious injury, um, adjustments are made this fall. Fatal
crashes. We had 14 in 2025, although one occurred in a public, in a parking garage. So not on a public
road. Uh, one metric I don't have, I don't have on here, which, which the citizens advisory committee
pointed out, which is
You know which crashes how many crashes occurred on state road versus local roads. And so that's something
I'll add to this later. Two of the fatal crashes had two crashes each or sorry two deaths each. And
then we had a total of.
13 of those crashes of those 14 crashes were vehicle two vehicles one involved a vehicle or a motor
vehicle and a pedestrian and zero involved bikes And keep in mind that scooters are not Separated out
from this so they typically fall within the bicycle category Next is just a short
brief descriptions of each of the fatal crashes and where they occurred. Of course, you'll be able to
see the locations better on the dashboard in the future. And the most common manner of collision was
a head-on, at least as reported, was a head-on crash. And both of the crashes with the two fatalities
each were head-on.
Serious injuries. You can see that over time serious injuries have declined and that looks really good.
And it's both due to local efforts to make things more safe and also possibly skewed a little bit due
to software changes at the state level and different interpretations of serious injuries.
And so it'll be interesting to see how these numbers change once that different methodology is applied.
The most common primary factor of the serious injury crashes that was noted was failure to yield to
right of way. Any questions?
Thank you. I really appreciate you putting this together, by the way. And I have a couple of questions.
So first of all, you don't have any bike versus pedestrian categories on here. And I know that there
was at least one of those on the beeline. And I can't quite remember when it was. I know it wasn't last
year. But is that something that can somehow get added? Well,
We use the areas data which is police crash reports which implies at least one motor vehicle was involved.
So that would have been labeled as some some other sort of incident report. I'm not sure how the BPD
would do it but that I don't think that would that shows up at all on
Okay, so maybe it's Like it could in theory show up, but it's all about how how it's coded Yeah, I would
certainly show up as a police report But it may not come to Aries the Aries software at all because
it's not considered like a crash Okay, because it didn't have a car. Yeah, and then similarly like electric
bicycles is that Separated out in any way right now
Not very well or consistently. At this time, no, they would just be labeled as as bicycles, most likely.
OK. And there are categories. There are some categories for for those different transportation options,
but they they're not consistent. There's a lot of errors. So there's like a lot not consistently being used.
In terms of coding it. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, there's I think more training might be needed or just maybe
they didn't maybe the police didn't have time. It's it's not it's not consistent and requires a lot
of cleanup. So we don't currently show it right now. Okay. And the other related question has to do with
List of causes is that taken directly from like the police reports? Like how did you determine? Yeah,
that's that's directly from the crash crash a to that would be just a selection that the that the officer
would make which one the primary factor or the Manner of collision, which one are you talking about?
Okay, so the officer selects a
the cause with primary factor and obviously a lot of them you know overlap and could easily select you
know one when maybe a couple applied or a different one was better. That is also subjective and up to
the officer basically. Right. And do you know are there secondary factors too. Like can they do they
get to select more than one.
Or are you not sure that I'm not sure about. OK. But there wasn't a way for you to like say have a primary
cause chart the way you have here and then a secondary cause chart like you couldn't select out a secondary
the narrative. The narrative will sometimes detail what the primary cause is and then it'll detail secondary
issues that led to the primary issue itself.
Narrative sometime can be several paragraphs Yeah Our engineering folks would look into all those crash
reports in more detail read the narratives Not just necessarily depend on this field the primary factor
of crash field So they would get a lot more detail from their crash reports this but this is We don't
so when we edit data we don't
Go in read every single narrative and then update or make our own judgment call on what the primary
factor was. We just go based on what the police officer selected. Okay great. Thank you. I might note
there's another item that falls through the cracks and that's horse drawn vehicles or horses with pedestrians
or with bicycles. This was an issue in northern Indiana.
So years ago with Yamish communities where a vehicle would strike a horse or a horse drawn carriage
and those were reported as pedestrian even though they were not necessarily pedestrian changes have
been made on that and those are always noted in the narratives themselves. So I appreciate you
on the scooters and it would be interesting to have some delineation between e-bikes and scooters because
one is much faster than the other and they're driven in different ways but so I would assume since our
focus is roadways that we are not going to be tracking ATV accidents in a farm field
Privately right. So we're not tracking that right. One of the things we're looking at in Monroe County
is to allow on certain road county roads the use of four wheel utility vehicles. And if we were to do
that I would assume that would be encompassed in the report somehow if there were an incident if it
touches the roadway. Yes. Okay. Perfect. That's public room.
Yeah, public heard. I'm sorry. Yeah. Perfect. Thank you. Well, I suppose the public, the private one
would also be report if the police were called and showed up, the private one would also be on there
as well. Yeah. I actually have another question that was brought up by a commissioner Thomas.
So thank you. Um, what about single vehicle crashes?
Because in here, I think all of this implies that, well, actually, I guess this is crashes involving
one or more. Yes. But all of it's one or more motor vehicles. So what about a single bicycle, a single?
I think we would have to read the narratives. A single what? Well, it says bicycle. Because I did realize
motor vehicle crashes involves one or more motor vehicles. So maybe a single vehicle crash. Because
that's like a safety issue, right?
Like were they driving too fast or was there like some other problem in the roadway that needs some
kind of amendment? But a bicycle crash could be the same sort of scenario in terms well I'll just say
I had a bicycle crash once that was related to a railroad track that was not in good condition and So
something like that was a roadway issue That would be reported. It's like an incident or some some other
Not cry. I would not be put in the crash category like a couple of years ago I think there was a bicycle
that like fell into a hole because of road construction and that wasn't reported on the crash reports.
OK. With the with the vehicles. Yeah those those are on the crash reports if it's one vehicle only like
the one fatality where they ran off the road and hit a tree. OK. Great. Thanks.
You already know that I have this question since I asked it on one day, but there's we have a bunch
of local agencies who have done a bunch of work in the aftermath of fatal and serious injury crashes
to address those safety issues do we have any way of connecting this data with remediation that
Various agencies have performed like I know that in the aftermath of some of the fatal crashes on 37
south that in dot has proposed various measures to make those intersections safer Similarly in the aftermath
of serious injury crashes at Eagleson and 17th I know that the city of Bloomington did some quick build
infrastructure changes. Do we have any
way of seeing what, if anything, has been done in the places, like connecting in our data sets, whether
on the crash dashboard or in this report or something like that, to connect the remediation to the incidents
that have occurred. I mean, I can speak to the NDOT side of the equation. There was a crash at 17th
and the bypass.
Think that was earlier this year or maybe late last year involving a motorcycle turning left on a what
I'd call permissive yellow and We reported that we Made an actual telephone call on that one and that
one the engineering staff safety engineering staff Seymour district Made that a hard red hard green
no permissive left turn yellow after that one because of the site distance. Right. My point is that
people are already doing a lot of work to address these safety incidents and it would be valuable both
for us to understand like what gets addressed and what hasn't been addressed and also to communicate
that work that is in fact being done, as you say, because all of the LPAs represented here are taking
action when there are serious injury crashes. To be able to communicate that in something like the crash
dashboard. Yeah, yeah, I'm curious as to where, so first of all, if the LPAs
You know, we'd want to share that information or publicly in any way. And if so, where it would be most
useful or if they already share it in their own ways. I mean, certainly it's something we could do if
the crash falls within our purview as the of the MPA. But but yeah, if I don't know if Lisa has any
thoughts about that, I think you can see where
Some of the projects that get set up through the program that's usually typically derived from higher
crash locations for Monroe County old 37 south. If we have Fairfax Road we have the high friction project
there. So I think you can. I don't know how you want to relate it on the dashboard but I think you can
relate that the LPAs do set up those projects
in coalition to the trash data. And how you want to coincide it together on the dashboard, I get what
you're saying. I totally understand. People care a lot and are making significant investments based
on the fact that we all care a lot about this. And I think it would just be valuable to be able to track
that and communicate that to people who maybe don't see
Right. The connection between a crash a couple years ago and some project in the tip that and like then
some construction on their road that being able to communicate that I think would show our constituents
that we are in fact doing the good work that really is getting done here. And it might be also within
I know that city of Bloomington and Monroe County do a three-year crash data and I think in some of
those reports it shows the Improvements that you've made at certain areas and how that crash data has
decreased So I think there might be a way to even more report it in those those annual reports But I
think some of that is already there I think from I can't speak for city of Bloomington, but I'm pretty
sure that that's where you address that and
This is what the measurements this is why the crashes have decreased at this and this is why
this intersection has lowered on that on that chart. So.
Yeah kind of similarly and I want to say I really appreciate that you did this report and we talked
about it maybe a few months ago about the concept and I really appreciate that that you did this and
maybe one of the things that could be potentially added to your you have the 2025 fatal crash locations
and descriptions maybe another column could be added that's like was there any remediation or any changes
as a result because like the 17th Street and the bypass thing is
is on here. And there was a change as a result of that particular crash. And I think some of the other
ones too, as people have said. And maybe that kind of thing could get easily added on as a column to
yearly reports on this in the future by all entities. Because I mean, if we have kind of an ongoing
list over the years of these, then it could get, I guess I would hope that in
Areas that that do have serious or fatal injuries because of something that could be changed like the
17th and bypass where like the light timing was changed essentially that.
we would track those over the years like if the change is big enough that we can't necessarily afford
it this year but we do it three years down the road that we can retroactively go back and be like hey
remember this thing and then keep that as a column because I mean we don't have I mean we're not Indianapolis
you know we're not having a fatal crash every day and so at least locally it feels like we should be
able to track that over multiple years.
Speaking for the Office of Traffic Safety They meet annually in February of every year central office
district office safety staff meet with the MPOs urbanized areas and we go through rankings of intersections
and also segments roadway segments based on fatality costs crash costs and property damage crash costs and
And those are usually noted that if something went down because of a countermeasure application the
previous year the previous same years sometimes it takes to three years or four years before some of
the countermeasures will actually show up in a reduction. But yeah we they do that. They do that every
year. All locations within the entire Seymour district.
And within our respective urbanized areas and then they consult with us on the urbanized areas Okay,
this is what it is. This is what we did This is what's happening. What do you think and we provide our
our input on those issues? Julie did you have a no? Okay. Yeah, I was just gonna say I had be happy
to report that information somehow if the LPS are
Okay with that, so I'll try and reach out to them. Additional questions, anybody? We've got time. We're
doing well. Thank you. Item 6.9.
Just to share a few updates on some local projects that are receiving MPO funds And some that are receiving
state-to-state funds the Monroe County high friction surface treatment on Fairfax Road project. They
have finalized their designs The soil sampling is in progress and they're working on stage
three documentation there is no right-of-way or utility work for this project and
Dillman Road bridge number 83 the design is in progress. The bridge will have to be closed
Due to environmental reasons they're working on stage 2 design submission and The right away phase is
moving to fiscal year 27 old SR 37 and Dillman Road project
The the dates for that project are shifting. We'll be talking about that later No cars features were
found on the property and they'll finalize drainage and detention in June Bridge safety inspection and
inventory the county completed that in March which was the required compliance month and
Rockport Road Bridge number 308 on South Bowlin Lane south of Bowlin Lane. The construction will begin
in June and the bridge is expected to close June 2nd. I'm assuming that's still accurate Lisa for Rockport.
Yeah it has been moved to June 8th. Just when it will close. OK. Thank you.
Eagleson Avenue Bridge replacement over the Indiana Railroad. They are doing pre-construction meetings
and road closure is anticipated September 2026. High Street, the city of Bloomington's High Street project.
Right-of-way acquisition is complete. Utility locations will take place this year. Construction next
year. The project
The project's construction phase unfortunately currently does not have any federal NPO funds But we
will be reviewing the addition of funds to that project later in this meeting Anticipated road closure
for 2026 utility locations relocations will be a mixture of flagging and one way Downtown curb ramps project
Phase four They're waiting on environmental report and No utility or right-of-way is required for the
project crosswalks phase three and North done are both in design North done project is going to be starting
right-of-way acquisition soon
College of Walnut Street phase one. The final analysis is still in progress. They anticipated construction
dates will be pushed out to fiscal year 30. We'll talk about that later. Curbs phase five designs and
project and they in process and they just issued a notice to proceed to a consultant. Crosswalks phase
four design consultant selection is in process.
And West Second Street there was a press release just yesterday the day before about that and construction
starting on that soon. Utility relocations are in progress. Any other comments. Question comment.
Bypass to Pete Ellis and Discovery Parkway 45 State Road 45 update There's there's still doing their
pre-construction and back pack Becky Packer could update but as far as I'm aware, they're still doing
their pre-construction and utility progress meetings will take place in June and We won't know about
road closures until those meetings occur
I would ask that you include that in your update every month, please, because I keep asking it every
month. There's a lot of concern out in the area I live in on that road out there because of what's going
to happen with road closure and those type of things, because it is a choke point, one road in,
one road out, and people are really sensitive of that. And there's a lot of activity with the students
and the church and the elementary school and so on in that area.
If you just give us a monthly update along with the other folks here that would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you. Currently the utilities are all this year so construction doesn't start till next year. Andrew
I know is he and his staff has invited to the pre con which I think is soon next week. But we won't
know anything about the utilities until mid June in the contract book.
I believe only Discovery and Pete Ellis are the closures, and those are not at the same time, so there
will be two different phases. I don't believe 45 will close.
moving on to Old business saying no old business new business item 8.1 We have some tip updates for
your consideration and approval The first update is to add a new Monroe County project called that road
bridge number 79 replacement and
The project is going to receive local bridge funds from the state of Indiana for its construction phases,
but all other phases will be using local funds. So no MPO funds, but state bridge funds. The proposed
work is removal and replacement of the existing bridge, and then also potentially upgrading the bridge
rail and adding multi-use path with pedestrian handrail
on the north side of the bridge. This is the bridge on that road right next to the Clear Creek Trail.
So you can see the proposed funds in the table below. I see I forgot the total project cost there. The
next update is
I had a question about that which maybe Lisa can answer which is will the There be a connection between
the path that's proposed for the bridge and the Clear Creek Trail that's adjacent there Yeah, we've
worked hand-in-hand with Tim Street and the staff and everything on the design of everything to make
it work with the trail Mm-hmm
The next update is related to some of the items we talked about last last meeting which were a shifting
of funds and so college and walnut phase one project the city desired to move the construction phases
for that project to fiscal year 2030 just as a projection lining it up with phase two of the project
and hopefully addressing both both at once.
More information to come, but 2030 is still plenty of time in the future as of now. And so they have
determined, though, that to be safe, they'd like to move it to fiscal year 30. And so what happened,
and then also the county, to be safe, wanted to move old SR 37 and Dillman Road project from fiscal
year 28 to 29.
And so what we had to do, and this is all detailed in the memo from the last meetings packet, what we
had to do is that money that was freed up in 2029 by College of Walnut phase one. MPO staff were able
to give about half of that to the Dillman Road intersection, the Dillman and SR 37 project when it moved to 29.
around two million about two million of that 29 funds the remaining two million of the 29 funds were
exchanged with another MPO for 2030 funds so that used the 2029 funds and then when Dillman moved to
29 that freed up funds in 28 and
The MPO exchanged 28 funds for fiscal year 27 funds. And so the tables in item two and three show those
changes with College and Walnut and 37 and Dillman moving to their new fiscal years. And then those
exchanges happening.
High Street then was able to get some federal funding for its construction phase in 27 due to exchanging
with another MPO. So you can see in this table that exchange with the Area Plan Commission of Tippecanoe
County allows us to get High Street, which is good because the LPAs spend extra money going through
the federal review process so they can be eligible for federal funds through the MPO.
And we always want to try and get them as many federal funds as possible, especially in the construction
phases. And then I'll finish up all of those by saying, if these proposed changes are
Approved This is a brief table a brief snapshot of what the fiscal constraint would look like so We
have You know allocated our funds for 26 27 30 but after all of these exchanges we have a
some allocated funds. We have plenty of things in fiscal year 20 and 29 to apply those funds to but
we haven't formally allocated them to any project yet. We'll have those discussions in July with the
LPS to try and figure out what might be best. Either that or MPO staff will make a proposal and
Bring it to the the committee, but we plan to talk to LPS about that first so Those changes will be
coming in the future Any questions comment Scott Brought this up. Let I brought this up last meeting
and I'll continue to bring it up because there's a lot of Negative pushback
Social media even at the lunch bunches and the breakfast bunches that get together and talk with respect
to college and walnut I'm not taking issue with any of the funding discussion that's up here on phase
one phase two I just don't know and if there is what in fact you're going to do in phase one and phase
two The options that have been proposed for college and walnut. There's a lot of folks who are not happy
with them Those comments are out there
the groups that I represent want to see what those changes are. And so when I see that we're moving
forward with funding for phase one and phase two that tells me there is a one a requirement on the on
the books and there's funding sources being identified to meet that requirement. That's my understanding.
So do we have my question is as we go forward with college and Walnut we need to have a better understanding
what in fact is going to what the options really are and and what
that I guess the city is going to decide decide upon because of the concern that is out there with respect
to the options that have been discussed previously. And Andrew you might talk to that or maybe there's
some maybe there's definitions on what phase one phase two does and that would be very helpful for us
to get asked questions about it so we can explain it to others. Yeah I guess just big.
College and walnut have been in the tip since the last call for projects. So essentially what's it we're
looking at right now is essentially a specific to that project is Essentially pushing it out a year
so still keeping it in the tip but not changing it but getting more time because Things are still in
motion the city Does have plans to move forward with
Adoption of a study, but that hasn't yet been Completed or really it formally started So it will be
discussed publicly in a future Transportation Commission meeting of the city of Bloomington then ultimately
the intent is for City Council to weigh in as an amendment to the city's transportation plan and so
anything that would be a part of a project with MPO funds is
Gonna be pending all of that and that's why it's been pushed out of here because that hasn't been been
formalized So I hope that answers the questions, but I do know there is some uncertainty I do know that
there is not an official plan Out there and that it will be forthcoming in the coming months And I'm
just trying to I had a minute I could pull up roughly when we think it will be going to the Transportation
Commission of the city of Bloomington Yeah
So that helps somewhat I still don't know what phase one and phase two does other than the fact that
it's a placeholder for money Probably for the study that's coming up with options that you all would
take and discuss within transportation and And the council etc. I assume that's the approach you're
taking something like that Yeah, I think specific to the the money that's in this project is it's still
going to be pending official adoption of a plan but
But this money generally speaking what I anticipated to address is More like maintenance focused and
low-hanging fruit like connecting building sidewalks where it does not exist Replacing old traffic signal
infrastructure and upgrading intersections to be consistent with whatever the to be adopted plan are
but there is just some some old infrastructure that needs to be replaced so more maintenance focused
but in a manner that would be consistent with
What the future corridor plan is and so my next question is what is the role of this body? with respect
to options being considered I Guess by the city transportation and City Council. Do we have a role in
that this body right here? I Think the role of this body of any project in the tip is essentially to
approve the funding of the project and that's and that has already been completed and
So ours is not to question the options ours is to approve the funding. That is my understanding. Okay.
Thank you. Julie. I think based on Scott's question my question is for the city representatives if you
could tell the public
When and how they can comment on a plan once it's published Or as it's being revised and considered
and then who actually ratifies it. Thank you Yeah, that that's a great question. So ultimately my best
estimate is that sometime in July
There will be a transit a specific transportation commission of the city of Bloomington meeting to review
and discuss the corridor study and the findings and that would be a meeting that public comment would
be welcome. And then after that meeting it will also need to go to the city plan commission because
it would be an amendment to the city's transportation plan and then and so likely
Maybe later in July or August and then and then after that would go to City Council So all three of
those public bodies will review and have opportunity for public input I'm just gonna add to that that
on the city of Bloomington website bloomington.in.gov slash transportation that slash see see WCS is
the college and walnut corridor study page and that
I believe is generally updated with things like public input sessions and stuff like that. So that is
another place that the public can just kind of look to keep track of. I have generally found that like
the previously mentioned
Bloomington transit input sessions about the route change like usually these sorts of meetings are pretty
well publicized in terms of input from the public So my follow-up to that is Lots of questions have
been asked I know I I have asked questions answers to those questions have not necessarily been forthcoming and so
I know in other bodies we go to great pains in the public hearing portion to attempt to address every
single question and provide at least, whatever the body is, feedback on what we think the proper course
of action is. So I understand that things are being posted, and I understand the city's website, and
I understand all that, but the public is not necessarily aware of all these websites, nor do they even
go to these websites.
And so they rely upon whatever that body is, that hearing body, to come forth and hear the presentation
of what's being proposed and then to take and provide a comment on what they think about that. And we've
seen that recently in other activities that have been taking place within the city and county. I know
personally outside of a select body of an awful lot of people who do not want to have the changes that
are being proposed made to college and wellness.
They don't think it's right. They think it's going to be an impediment on the downtown, the businesses,
and likewise. And even the flow of traffic, when in fact we have students and parents and football games
and basketball games and the like, and what's going to happen to the community. Now, I'm not here to
debate those topics here. I apologize if others see that's what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to
do that. I just want to make sure that whatever comments are coming forward, they're addressed.
and sometimes they're positive and sometimes they're negative. I understand that. But people need to
be aware of that and putting it on a website is not necessarily the right course of action because not
everybody has access to that website. That's my only comment. I'm encouraging the public hearing portion
where people have a chance to come out and vet and they need to hear responses to their questions on
why or why not their considerations are being addressed. That's all. Thank you.
I would say that those things are already being done and I would say that all of us and all
of our organizations advertise the best we can to get as much feedback as possible from the community
and there's always the argument of oh well so-and-so doesn't have access to this so-and-so doesn't have
access to that there's always going to be that argument in terms of public feedback and there's always
much effort as possible given to trying to get the word out to all all manner of of people who might
want to respond to that and so to public who are listening to this or to Members of the public who you
might speak to like I mean If somebody is that interested in that concern what they could always call
the city and talk directly, you know on the phone
To a member of planning and transportation or engineering who would be happy to let them know about
those input sessions via telephone, but I mean all we can do is is advertise on the mediums that we
have I would just like to emphasize that public hearings as we can see from the high attendance level at the
this public hearing are not always the most accessible way to provide information to the public. And
so we shouldn't over-index on attendance at public hearings, which tends to feature the same sorts of
people all the time, like me. I attend a lot of public hearings and public meetings. But it's important
to have broad access beyond the sorts of people who can
make it to meetings like this one or like the Transportation Committee. But I have a different question,
which is, Katie, we're making a bunch of trades with other MPOs around the state as part of these fundings.
Are we getting back, how much are we losing in a dollar amount since across these trades?
losing in what way? Other than inflation. When we go to these other MPOs and say, are we trading dollar
for dollar or are we giving more than we're getting since we're the ones who need to make these trades
to accommodate schedule changes? Making trades is quite common among
most of the MPOs because especially the smaller ones because They often only do one or two projects
at a time and they try to maximize the funding For that project and so they'll you know Group a lot
of funds into one year and maybe don't have funds for the next couple years as that construction takes
place so but yes, it is dollar for dollar and
It does not account for inflation. So, you know if we are getting 20 30 funds from somebody else giving
them our 20 29 certainly There is some unspoken loss there, but we are getting 27 funds for somebody
else's 20 and we're giving them 28 so you could also argue that it balances out in a way and
Okay, thanks, I seem to recall that an earlier trade that we did we ended up Down a small amount I Think
when we did a trade with the Indianapolis NPO The Indianapolis NPO trade was for the first street project
yeah, and that was dollar-for-dollar. Oh that was okay. Yeah and
We got their money and spent it immediately and we're not paying them back until later They asked about
an inflationary factor. We laughed they agreed and Yeah, because they had they had to use the money
or lose it I'm glad that our MPO staff drives a hard bargain with the other MPs Especially in Indianapolis.
Yes More broadly I expressed this worry at the CAC meeting as well, but
Given that we're making all of these changes roughly to move projects that are already in the tip to
later years for reasons that are very understandable, I'm concerned that we need to be planning as for
projects further out so that
we don't run out. If our 2030 projects are projects that we were putting in the tip in 2024, like for
college and Walnut, then the projects that are going to be listed in, major projects that are going
to be in the tip for 2031 or 2032 are projects that we would expect
to be seeing in the tip already and they aren't there right now. So, obviously this is not something
that we're going to address at this meeting. However, this is a concern I have that right now we're
not proposing things with the, proposing sufficient things with the
Recognition of what the timelines for the projects we actually execute look like Yeah, I mean You can
kind of consider the NPO a little bit like a grant agency of some sort You know the local LPAs do propose
projects The NPO itself doesn't have the authority to work with
consultants and contractors and do our own projects and I think I think Indy MPO does that but But We
do have a new tip cycle every two years and so that will often bring things up also there could be projects
that Will be submitted with this falls call for projects for the next tip that maybe are not in the
tip at this point because the local public agencies plan to do
the preliminary engineering phases and the right away phases with just local money. And they may want
to apply for federal funding for the construction phases. And that's why it's maybe not on the tip at
this point. With regards, I mean, I'm not in the mind of the folks that do submit projects at the call
for projects every two years.
But I think that a big priority of, you know, City of Bloomington in particular is College and Walnut
Project. And that will take some time, which is probably why you don't see much else in the future upcoming.
That will take a lot of funding. So if these two have any other insights? I agree. I agree. I think
the one thing I'll just add for the group's sake is until we approve what is currently on our docket,
Right now there is literally no money in the tip to program for the design of the project. That's beyond
2030 So just is no incentive for an LPI to ask to add something when there isn't any money for it And
it I think in the coming months anticipating a new call for projects so I think they're just there just
isn't the incentive to Add it to the tip, but I imagine all agencies are always thinking about what's next. I
Mm-hmm. And I mean the tip is dynamic and if if there's nothing, you know Right now there might be in
2032 And it might be something huge and all the funds, you know We may want to do trades for 2031 just
so we can get more funds into 2032. We're always gonna have to adjust depending on what the local projects
are that want funds and if they don't submit enough or if
You know, sometimes there are delays, environmental delays with NDOT or right of way delays that are
not anticipated. And, you know, I'm not saying that the project management is perfect. There's sometimes
more time maybe could be budgeted for certain things. But if the, you know, if they don't have anything
If they want to submit for federal funds or they don't have any projects they want to go through the
federal review process for and they just want to use local money, that's fine. We'll either move it
to a year where there is something that needs more or you know that thankfully there is a flexing option
to Bloomington Transit as well. But yes, I agree and there's definitely some work we can do.
with with regards to timelines Any other questions we still have a quorum I Guess okay in that case.
I move that we accept the amendments to the tip Do we need to move to approve resolution 2026 oh eight
is that the
Motion because that resolution is Sorry say that again see is the appropriate motion to approve resolution
20 2608 as presented Yeah, the amendments within that resolution. Yeah Yeah, yes, that's that's the
motion is to approve the amendments to resolution 20 2608 second
We have a motion and we have a second. Do we have any other comments. Do we have public comment. Seeing
none all those in favor of resolution 20 26 dash 0 8 with the proposed changes do so by saying aye aye.
Any opposed. Seeing none motion carries. Moving on to public comment. I think we have any.
Communications from committee members on non-voting matters not included on the agenda Seeing none I
know I'm not a committee member, but may I just add to something that hope he asked earlier and that
is oh I Need to share something else here you asked about the amendments and modifications so
Even though that information is not in our tip, this has been posted to our website, and this shows
what we consider the first one is an amendment classification, and the next table is modification
classification. I'm happy to send that to you, but I will share this information at the next meeting
as well. This has been posted to our website on the tip page,
This shows what what our current process is And so essentially next meeting basically want to just do
a renewal a Review of this process with you guys and then if you want to make any changes to it you
can So we'll just be sharing it as an informational item next
Next meeting and then eventually if you do make any updates, we'll just put those into the next tip
for review this fall. I took this off the website recently because it wasn't accessible by screen readers.
And so that's when we took a few things off that weren't accessible and then they changed the deadline
for that. So I can put it back up there. That's all.
Thank you. The next meetings are technical advisory committee meeting is July 22nd at 10 a.m. Citizens
Advisory Committee is July 22nd at 5 30 p.m. And policy committee is July 24th at 10 30 a.m. All these
meetings are available by hybrid and I move for adjournment.