WEBVTT 00:00:00.450 --> 00:00:12.908 - Okay, so we will call the Bloomington MPO meeting to order on this October 23rd, 2026. Can you hear 00:00:12.908 --> 00:00:26.114 - me now? So we will begin with introductions and we'll start to my left. Steve Bishop, City of Bloomington 00:00:26.114 --> 00:00:28.606 - Playing Commission. 00:00:30.082 --> 00:00:38.549 - Hopi Stossberg, City of Bloomington Common Council. Andrew Seabor, serving as proxy for Mayor Thompson. 00:00:38.549 --> 00:00:46.853 - Lisa Ridge, Monroe County Highway Department. Doug Horn, Bloomington Public Transit Corporation Board 00:00:46.853 --> 00:00:55.646 - of Directors. Scott Ferris, Monroe County Plan Commission. Sam Tobin-Hockstad, Citizens Advisory Committee. 00:00:57.986 --> 00:01:06.305 - Nate Nichols, City of Bloomington Public Works Department, proxy for Adam Wason, Public Works Director. 00:01:06.305 --> 00:01:14.544 - And it looks like we have two online. Becky, if you want to go first. Becky Packer, Indiana Department 00:01:14.544 --> 00:01:22.702 - of Transportation. I'm Julie Thomas, Monroe County Commissioner. Thank you. Item two, approval of the 00:01:22.702 --> 00:01:25.182 - agenda for October 23rd, 2026. 00:01:32.162 --> 00:01:41.894 - I'll move that we approve the agenda as presented. Second. We have a motion and we have a second. Any 00:01:41.894 --> 00:01:48.382 - discussion? Any public comment? Seeing none, roll call vote please. 00:02:04.162 --> 00:02:22.589 - Yes. Ridge. Yes. Horn. Can't hear you. Horn. Yes. Ferris. Yes. Bishop. Yes. Stasberg. Yes. Seaborg. 00:02:22.589 --> 00:02:34.014 - Yes. Nichol. Yes. Are they visible while we saw them? Packer. 00:02:35.618 --> 00:02:45.537 - Yes. And Thomas? Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Moving on to item three, approval of the minutes from 00:02:45.537 --> 00:02:55.650 - August 28th, 2026. We have a motion. Hopi? I'll move that we approve the minutes from August 28th, 2026 00:02:55.650 --> 00:03:02.846 - as presented. Second. We have a motion. We have a second. Any discussion? 00:03:05.058 --> 00:03:20.375 - Any public comment? Seeing none, roll call vote please. Packer? Yes. Thomas? Yes. Bishop? Yes. Ferris? 00:03:20.375 --> 00:03:33.758 - Yes. Horne? Yes. Ridge? Yes. Seaborg? Yes. Tobin-Hashta? Yes. Nichol? Yes. Motion passes. 00:03:34.498 --> 00:03:45.541 - I'm a yes too. Stossberg. Thank you. Yes. Motion passes. Communications from chair or vice chair. 00:03:45.541 --> 00:03:57.034 - I have none. Okay. Communications from officers and or committees. So the citizens advisory committee 00:03:57.034 --> 00:04:03.006 - met on Wednesday and we approved the schedule and we 00:04:03.330 --> 00:04:12.971 - heard discussion of the upcoming tip that we will hear today. The TAC met this past Wednesday and also 00:04:12.971 --> 00:04:22.424 - had an opportunity to review the tip and have some discussion. I know the topic of e-bikes came up a 00:04:22.424 --> 00:04:32.158 - little bit and also approved the meeting schedule for next year. Thanks. Thank you. Reports from staff. 00:04:33.218 --> 00:04:40.173 - Okay, the first item we have is City of Bloomington press release, dated October 14th, 2026. This is 00:04:40.173 --> 00:04:46.577 - a temporary one-way traffic pattern, westbound only for West 2nd Street beginning on October 00:04:46.577 --> 00:04:53.601 - 27th. Anticipated to extend to November 25th. Might note that West Street will begin, I'm sorry, that 00:04:53.601 --> 00:05:01.726 - West 2nd Street will be westbound only, but 1st Street will be eastbound only. And this is only a temporary situation 00:05:02.082 --> 00:05:11.562 - due to the construction on 2nd Street where they are laying full-depth asphalt. And that date of extending 00:05:11.562 --> 00:05:20.511 - November 25th is what I would call, in case of bad weather, probably be finished prior to that. I'll 00:05:20.511 --> 00:05:29.726 - be happy to answer any questions anybody may have. Okay. Next item, October 8th, 2026 letter from NDOT. 00:05:30.306 --> 00:05:39.061 - for TIP project number does number 2101712. This is the Dillon Road Bridge number 83 replacement in 00:05:39.061 --> 00:05:47.816 - Monroe County, west of 3000 feet, west of 037. The letter essentially says that there is a historic 00:05:47.816 --> 00:05:56.571 - significance to the structure itself. It should be saved in some way or another be put on the adopt 00:05:56.571 --> 00:05:59.198 - a bridge program. And that's, 00:05:59.330 --> 00:06:08.370 - In a nutshell, that's exactly what the letter says. You can read the letter in its fullness if you want 00:06:08.370 --> 00:06:17.409 - to. Does anybody have any questions on that? Okay, next item. October 8th, 2026 letter from the Indiana 00:06:17.409 --> 00:06:25.406 - Department of Natural Resources for Transportation Improvement Program, DES number 2401216. 00:06:25.858 --> 00:06:33.649 - This is the existing pedestrian bridge over the State Road 45-46 bypass just east of Interstate 69. 00:06:33.649 --> 00:06:42.219 - This is an extensive evaluation of the structure in terms of its historical significance. The recommendations 00:06:42.219 --> 00:06:50.244 - are to relocate, well, dismantle and relocate the structure to another location, put it into the adopt 00:06:50.244 --> 00:06:51.646 - a bridge program. 00:06:52.034 --> 00:06:58.163 - I'm not sure how they would do the adopt a bridge program for something like this. It would probably 00:06:58.163 --> 00:07:04.716 - be best to be put into some sort of a park, a city park or a county park somewhere in the state of Indiana. 00:07:04.716 --> 00:07:10.784 - But again, that's a very extensive letter goes into the detail about the historical significance of 00:07:10.784 --> 00:07:17.156 - the structure itself. It's the only one. It's a one of one, I believe, in the state of Indiana. Be happy 00:07:17.156 --> 00:07:20.190 - to answer any questions you may have on that one. 00:07:23.842 --> 00:07:30.883 - Thank you. I guess on both of these, like what kind of effect does that have on us as an MPO or, cause 00:07:30.883 --> 00:07:37.855 - at least with that Kinzer one, that pedestrian bridge, right? That's the one that we're talking about 00:07:37.855 --> 00:07:44.691 - here. Yeah. And I mean, in dot that's an in dot plan to redo that bridge. So is there like a fiscal 00:07:44.691 --> 00:07:51.390 - impact? Is there, do we just have to, you know, think of places where this bridge could go? Like, 00:07:52.226 --> 00:08:01.211 - or is this a required sort of recommendation, or is this just like a hint? Well, the realization is 00:08:01.211 --> 00:08:10.465 - the structure is inadequate, and it needs to be replaced. The question is, where do you replace it at? 00:08:10.465 --> 00:08:19.180 - And the initial discussions were that you construct a new structure closer to Kinzer and Rogers, 00:08:19.180 --> 00:08:21.246 - move it, I don't know, 00:08:21.538 --> 00:08:29.842 - a couple thousand feet to the east or something like that. Then there's also, we had one citizen approach 00:08:29.842 --> 00:08:38.068 - us and suggested a tunnel underneath, though that's bedrock as far as I know, under there, so that would 00:08:38.068 --> 00:08:45.903 - be an issue. So I don't know where it's at right now, and NDOT is aware of the issue, the structure 00:08:45.903 --> 00:08:48.958 - needs to be replaced. The question is, 00:08:49.794 --> 00:08:57.706 - How would it be replaced? Where would it be replaced? When would it be replaced? How much would it cost? 00:08:57.706 --> 00:09:05.769 - And then you also have what's called connectivity. What's going to connect to? Where's the origin? Where's 00:09:05.769 --> 00:09:13.456 - the destination? Destination landing on the north side could be figured out pretty easily, but on the 00:09:13.456 --> 00:09:17.374 - east side, where do you land that at? I don't know. 00:09:17.922 --> 00:09:25.185 - So you have to have a logical termini, and that's where all of these variables are in play right now. 00:09:25.185 --> 00:09:32.804 - OK. But in terms of fiscal impact that we can determine right now or any kind of change in course, there's 00:09:32.804 --> 00:09:40.352 - not one? None. OK. And is that true with the Dillman Bridge situation, too, in terms of that? The Dillman 00:09:40.352 --> 00:09:41.278 - Road Bridge. 00:09:41.378 --> 00:09:48.347 - I mean, that's already programmed by the county. It's in preliminary engineering. I don't know if you're 00:09:48.347 --> 00:09:55.183 - doing right of way on that now. I think you've started right of way on that too, for that matter. That 00:09:55.183 --> 00:10:01.953 - one is moving right along for construction, for a contract letting in the near future. That one, it's 00:10:01.953 --> 00:10:09.122 - just a matter of taking the bridge apart, putting it somewhere. And the somewhere may be Limestone Greenway 00:10:09.122 --> 00:10:09.918 - Trail Park, 00:10:10.786 --> 00:10:18.389 - I think that's what Kelly Whitmer from Monroe County Parks had told us at the TAC meeting on Wednesday 00:10:18.389 --> 00:10:25.845 - was that would be the home, the new home, if not the possible home for that Dillman Road Bridge that 00:10:25.845 --> 00:10:33.374 - exists right now. The Dillman Road Bridge is a plank structure when you cross the deck. John Kennedy, 00:10:33.374 --> 00:10:39.870 - who's on the Citizens Advisory Committee, bicycle rider, he said he's lost a few tires. 00:10:40.162 --> 00:10:47.981 - in that bridge caught in between the joints there. And he said that he's even scared to walk on it too 00:10:47.981 --> 00:10:55.571 - with bicycle shoes. But other than that, it's safe for automobiles still at this point in time. OK, 00:10:55.571 --> 00:11:03.694 - but it's already in the process of being moved and we've figured out where it's going to go to. So there's 00:11:03.694 --> 00:11:09.918 - also no consequence really to that either because all of those plans were already 00:11:10.050 --> 00:11:20.347 - Okay, great, thanks. Yeah. Doug? Yeah, Pat, just the point of interest. The current pedestrian bridge 00:11:20.347 --> 00:11:30.543 - that we talked about shortly ago, does that meet current ADA requirements? I don't know. You know, I 00:11:30.543 --> 00:11:39.326 - remember when that thing went up. I think I was driving. I'm not sure. But I didn't... 00:11:39.458 --> 00:11:46.880 - You know, ADA may not have been as or what it is today when that thing went in. Katie says she thinks 00:11:46.880 --> 00:11:54.592 - not. I don't know because I don't familiarize myself with state structures, whether they're ADA compliant 00:11:54.592 --> 00:12:01.941 - or not. Sure, sure. But that's a question we can ask. We can give you an answer at our next meeting. 00:12:01.941 --> 00:12:08.926 - Oh, just of interest. If they're going to use it somewhere else, that might turn into an issue. 00:12:09.314 --> 00:12:17.313 - Yes, and I, yeah, if they place it somewhere else, the approach ramps would have to be redone. Yeah, 00:12:17.313 --> 00:12:25.391 - that arch to me, I keep thinking, is that one foot, you know, one inch per foot on that? I don't know 00:12:25.391 --> 00:12:33.311 - about that. What is it, one to eight or something like that? Yeah, I don't know. I think the letter 00:12:33.311 --> 00:12:38.142 - actually says that it doesn't meet accessibility guidelines. 00:12:38.946 --> 00:12:47.957 - I did not read the letter, so thank you. I read it and it didn't stick. Thank you. Okay, the last item 00:12:47.957 --> 00:12:56.793 - we've got for staff report is the recent updates to the MPO transportation improvement program. This 00:12:56.793 --> 00:13:05.804 - is the current program, the 26 through 30, yeah, 26 through 30 transportation improvement program with 00:13:05.804 --> 00:13:08.254 - locations on a virtual map. 00:13:08.482 --> 00:13:17.683 - If you click that link, it'll lead you to a GIS map, ArcGIS map, which shows you where the current projects 00:13:17.683 --> 00:13:26.372 - are and also identifies certain criteria associated with those projects too. Those are all updated on 00:13:26.372 --> 00:13:34.891 - a continuous basis. Question? We have a quarterly tracking meeting with the LPAs in a couple weeks, 00:13:34.891 --> 00:13:36.510 - so we'll have some 00:13:36.610 --> 00:13:48.242 - more updates on how the current projects are going next meeting. Any questions, anybody? Okay. All right. 00:13:48.242 --> 00:13:59.545 - Moving on, we have no old business listed. Item eight, new business. First review of the calendar year 00:13:59.545 --> 00:14:03.166 - 2027 committee meeting schedule. 00:14:04.418 --> 00:14:13.117 - Yeah, and I would call this a first review. Normally, we give this to you in December, and then we also 00:14:13.117 --> 00:14:21.482 - give it to the committees in January as a reinforcing mechanism. This identifies everything here. I 00:14:21.482 --> 00:14:30.014 - think we've got one conflict, well, one potential conflict, May 28, I believe. That's not a conflict, 00:14:30.014 --> 00:14:33.694 - but it is a Friday before a Monday holiday. 00:14:33.794 --> 00:14:41.321 - We could change that now or we could change it the month before. Go ahead, Pat. Sorry. Or we can change 00:14:41.321 --> 00:14:48.847 - it in December. It's just the awareness of the fact that that's the Friday before Memorial Day weekend. 00:14:48.847 --> 00:14:56.446 - And attendance on May 28th may be slim to none because everybody wants Saturday, Sunday, and Monday off. 00:14:59.618 --> 00:15:07.303 - So if we're setting this in our calendar, may we strike through that date and just expect a different 00:15:07.303 --> 00:15:15.062 - one? Yeah. I mean, we could postpone it till we talked about postponing it to a week later. That would 00:15:15.062 --> 00:15:23.124 - put you into June for the policy committee. And normally June is the recess month for the policy committee 00:15:23.124 --> 00:15:27.870 - itself. So the choices are we can postpone it to a week later. 00:15:28.162 --> 00:15:36.466 - or we can cancel the meeting altogether, one of the two. That's a decision made by the policy committee 00:15:36.466 --> 00:15:44.851 - itself on what they want to do. And that doesn't have to be made today. This is just an awareness factor 00:15:44.851 --> 00:15:53.474 - for you. So that way, if you didn't want to make a decision today, we could do this on, do this in December 00:15:53.474 --> 00:15:55.870 - when we meet on December 4th. 00:15:56.770 --> 00:16:04.665 - April 2nd. April 2nd. Didn't we do something different in the past for December or January 00:16:04.665 --> 00:16:13.514 - due to appointments on the board or not meet in January? In previous years, two years ago, the policy 00:16:13.514 --> 00:16:22.190 - committee used to meet on the second Friday of the month. And the TAC and the CAC would meet on the 00:16:22.190 --> 00:16:24.446 - fourth. We combined that. 00:16:24.578 --> 00:16:31.629 - this year, so that way everybody meets on the same week. That way you get a sequential process instead 00:16:31.629 --> 00:16:38.612 - of a bifurcated process. You get sequential decision making on Wednesday, Wednesday, and then Friday. 00:16:38.612 --> 00:16:45.595 - So that's how we came to a single week. Always the fourth Wednesday of the month is the fourth Friday 00:16:45.595 --> 00:16:52.440 - of the month. Makes it a lot easier on everybody meeting the schedules. Makes it easier in terms of 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:54.494 - decision making also for that 00:16:58.018 --> 00:17:08.374 - Also note that April, the March meeting has been moved forward a week to April due to that Friday being 00:17:08.374 --> 00:17:18.332 - a holiday. March 26th is a holiday. It's generically known as spring holiday. And is that still the 00:17:18.332 --> 00:17:27.294 - 1030 meeting time? Is that still? Yes, all the meeting times would remain the same. Okay. 00:17:30.082 --> 00:17:37.167 - mean myself I would say not change anything for May at this point just because it's so far out there 00:17:37.167 --> 00:17:44.602 - and then you're gonna have two meetings in April so there could be a chance you could cancel that meeting 00:17:44.602 --> 00:17:51.617 - yes that's just my opinion yes yeah we will we will I promise no unnecessary meetings I mean we try 00:17:51.617 --> 00:17:58.772 - to be cognizant of your time in terms of coming to attend all the meetings and making decisions going 00:17:58.772 --> 00:17:59.614 - through the 00:17:59.842 --> 00:18:07.572 - luminous packets. I guess a question is the staff have a recommendation it sounds like our options are 00:18:07.572 --> 00:18:15.152 - to just approve what is presented knowing we could change it it is or to delay a vote until our next 00:18:15.152 --> 00:18:21.982 - meeting or to strike the like I'm just curious for for your recommendation on this agenda. 00:18:22.530 --> 00:18:30.370 - I, sorry, when I updated the 8.1 yesterday, I changed it to first review of the calendar, but I forgot 00:18:30.370 --> 00:18:38.133 - to remove the motion in second language, so sorry about that. That's confusing. So you do not have to 00:18:38.133 --> 00:18:46.125 - vote today. We'll ask you to approve it at the December meeting. Thank you. Yeah, the technical advisory 00:18:46.125 --> 00:18:52.062 - committee did not vote on it. The citizens advisory committee did vote on it. 00:18:52.194 --> 00:19:01.798 - Yeah, it's up to your option on what course of action you wish to choose. Is there a reason not to vote 00:19:01.798 --> 00:19:11.034 - on it? Another December is always better. I mean, it's closer. Closer to the time frame, yeah. Call 00:19:11.034 --> 00:19:20.638 - this version 1.0. If we wait until our next meeting, what will happen between now and our next meeting? 00:19:23.138 --> 00:19:31.904 - Nothing. There might be more people at the December meeting. So there might be a few more voices that 00:19:31.904 --> 00:19:41.185 - have an opinion about something, but. Yeah, we may have more people in December because that's the adoption 00:19:41.185 --> 00:19:50.209 - proposed adoption of the transportation improvement program. All right, so we'll move on to first review 00:19:50.209 --> 00:19:51.326 - of the draft 00:19:51.426 --> 00:20:01.320 - Bloomington Monroe County MPO fiscal year 2028-2032 transportation improvement program. Okay the program 00:20:01.320 --> 00:20:10.932 - which we have put together here and we've published we published this on well the first of all let me 00:20:10.932 --> 00:20:18.942 - go back the last updated version is October 1st this is what's posted on the website 00:20:19.522 --> 00:20:27.731 - We opened the public comment period after legal advertisements in the Herald Times, two legal advertisements 00:20:27.731 --> 00:20:35.487 - in the Herald Times on a Friday edition and also on a Sunday edition prior to a week before the public 00:20:35.487 --> 00:20:43.018 - meeting. October 1st was published date. October 2nd was the beginning of the 30-day public comment 00:20:43.018 --> 00:20:47.838 - period. 30-day public comment period extends till November 1st. 00:20:48.130 --> 00:20:55.626 - November 1st is on a Sunday. And originally, I told somebody 5 o'clock on Sunday, and the answer is 00:20:55.626 --> 00:21:03.347 - really 12 o'clock midnight on Sunday the 1st. So if you want to be up at 1159 making comments, you can 00:21:03.347 --> 00:21:11.593 - do that. We are accepting all comments in a written form, electronic form, postal. We had a letter yesterday, 00:21:11.593 --> 00:21:16.990 - first letter in a long time, but we had a letter yesterday on comments. 00:21:17.506 --> 00:21:24.792 - We also advertised an open house on the transportation improvement program that was held on the 12th. 00:21:24.792 --> 00:21:32.220 - Yeah, thank you, 12th. Sorry if I've got all the dates here. On October 12th, we had one person attend. 00:21:32.220 --> 00:21:39.935 - That individual was there for approximately an hour and a half. So hopefully I answered a lot of questions, 00:21:39.935 --> 00:21:43.006 - but then we also received formal comments. 00:21:43.618 --> 00:21:52.046 - from that individual in electronic form via an email and we also received comments via paper on a letter. 00:21:52.046 --> 00:22:00.394 - Again, if you've got any comments or questions on the transportation improvement program or your friends 00:22:00.394 --> 00:22:08.345 - and neighbors do, we encourage you to send those in. Again, public comment period is open until the 00:22:08.345 --> 00:22:12.638 - first. Now scrolling down on the program of projects, 00:22:16.738 --> 00:22:29.216 - down here on page 13. Page 13, this is our projected federal highway formula funds for fiscal year 28, 00:22:29.216 --> 00:22:41.936 - 29, 30, 31, 32. Notice we say estimate on the first two years. And the reason we say estimate is because 00:22:41.936 --> 00:22:43.390 - the current 00:22:44.386 --> 00:22:50.851 - Surface Transportation Bill, the Infrastructure and Investment Jobs Act. The bill is under a continuing 00:22:50.851 --> 00:22:57.626 - resolution in Congress. It's under its third, I believe, third continuing resolution. So these are estimates 00:22:57.626 --> 00:23:04.029 - given to us by the Indiana Department of Transportation. We don't come up with these ourselves. So the 00:23:04.029 --> 00:23:10.867 - carbon reduction program, the highway safety improvement program, the PROTECT program, which is Environmental 00:23:10.867 --> 00:23:13.726 - Section 164, which is penalty money for those 00:23:13.890 --> 00:23:20.885 - Well, for the states that aren't meeting standards, air quality standards, we get that funding. Surface 00:23:20.885 --> 00:23:27.409 - transportation block grant, which is always the biggest amount of money that we receive. Surface 00:23:27.409 --> 00:23:34.472 - transportation block grant, TIFIA. Transportation alternatives, which is the alternative transportation. 00:23:34.472 --> 00:23:41.534 - And then transportation alternatives, TIFIA. And then the anticipated spending authority is 4.5 million. 00:23:42.242 --> 00:23:50.783 - a little above 4.5 million. Now, those of you that are keenly aware, in prior years, we were in the 00:23:50.783 --> 00:23:59.495 - vicinity of more like 5.5, $5.2 million. We're down a million dollars. The reason for that is because 00:23:59.495 --> 00:24:08.037 - of the 2020 census. The 2020 census, we had 45,000 students who went home on March 15th. The census 00:24:08.037 --> 00:24:12.222 - came in and counted the urban area in April 1st, 00:24:12.674 --> 00:24:20.762 - And the allocation of funding to our MPO is based on per capita allocation. So as a result of losing 00:24:20.762 --> 00:24:29.090 - the population, losing the population, meaning they went home and they weren't counted, because of that 00:24:29.090 --> 00:24:37.097 - loss, we lost funding vis-a-vis the balance of the state of Indiana, which grew slightly. So that's 00:24:37.097 --> 00:24:41.822 - our penalty right there. So we've flatlined those numbers. 00:24:42.114 --> 00:24:50.738 - all the way across simply because that's the easiest way to estimate at this point in time. And then 00:24:50.738 --> 00:24:59.533 - stay tuned in January when Congress, new Congress comes in, it depends how that election goes in terms 00:24:59.533 --> 00:25:08.670 - of reauthorization of the Service Transportation Act. The next page we've got here on page 14 shows us the 00:25:10.178 --> 00:25:18.642 - The highway, federal highway formula funds by local, yeah, local public agency, city of Bloomington, 00:25:18.642 --> 00:25:27.274 - 14 million. Monroe County, 5.4 million. Anticipated spending authority is 19.7 million. Somebody asked 00:25:27.274 --> 00:25:34.398 - on Wednesday, why is this split? And it's based on the ask. We don't determine that. 00:25:34.786 --> 00:25:41.454 - It's based on the requests, the project requests that come in. Some years it's one entity has more money 00:25:41.454 --> 00:25:47.995 - than the other. In other years, it's another entity has more money. This is what the split is for this 00:25:47.995 --> 00:25:54.599 - current proposed transportation improvement program. And if you look at it in terms of local funds used 00:25:54.599 --> 00:26:00.950 - for transportation improvement projects sponsored by the local public agencies, you'll see what the 00:26:00.950 --> 00:26:03.998 - split is there. For 28, fiscal year, these are, 00:26:04.194 --> 00:26:11.694 - federal fiscal year, by the way, starting July 1st. Federal fiscal year 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, and then 00:26:11.694 --> 00:26:19.194 - the total amounts shown out there. Total amount is $13.5 million. If you go to the next table, which 00:26:19.194 --> 00:26:26.620 - is on page 15, fiscal constraint. We are required by law, by federal law, to have fiscal constraint 00:26:26.620 --> 00:26:34.046 - for all of our projects. In other words, we can't spend more money than what's actually programmed. 00:26:34.754 --> 00:26:42.915 - We can spend the money in terms of you losing local dollars, but we can't overspend on federal funding 00:26:42.915 --> 00:26:50.839 - dollars. So our anticipated spending authority is at the top line there for fiscal year 28, 29, 30, 00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:58.921 - 31, and 32. Existing funding exchange agreements are shown there. These exchange agreements were done 00:26:58.921 --> 00:27:01.694 - for three projects in prior years. 00:27:01.986 --> 00:27:09.032 - Total available funding available for the MPOs and this is showing for each individual fiscal year. 00:27:09.032 --> 00:27:16.007 - And then showing under that is each individual project that is proposed for the new transportation 00:27:16.007 --> 00:27:23.265 - improvement program, college and Walnut corridor, crosswalk safety improvements phase three, crosswalk 00:27:23.265 --> 00:27:27.774 - safety improvements phase four, downtown curb ramps phase five, 00:27:28.130 --> 00:27:34.907 - Old State Road 37 and Dillman Road safety project North Dunn Street multi-use path. North Walnut Street 00:27:34.907 --> 00:27:42.010 - improvements phase one. North Walnut Street improvements phase two. Sidewalk and ADA ramp repair replacement 00:27:42.010 --> 00:27:48.526 - project and this is in Monroe County within the urbanized area and outside of the boundaries of the 00:27:48.526 --> 00:27:54.782 - city of Bloomington. So the total obligations there are totaled up at the bottom and then shows 00:27:55.266 --> 00:28:02.992 - percentage of obligation, there's not a penny left on the table. We'll be using all of our dollars. 00:28:02.992 --> 00:28:10.951 - And then the next, on page 16, we're showing the funding tables by individual program, category years, 00:28:10.951 --> 00:28:19.063 - and how much they're obligated by. I'm not gonna go into the details on this, but you can see that we're 00:28:19.063 --> 00:28:23.390 - balancing everything out to zero, zero, zero, and zero. 00:28:24.386 --> 00:28:32.699 - Then if you go to page 18 on the Federal Transit Administration funds, these are separate than the highway 00:28:32.699 --> 00:28:40.546 - funds in the sense that they are allocated based on formulas, formulas for Bloomington Transit based 00:28:40.546 --> 00:28:48.781 - on its size, based on number of passengers, based on passenger trip miles and a number of other variables 00:28:48.781 --> 00:28:52.510 - that are in there. So the 5307, which is there, 00:28:52.962 --> 00:29:03.208 - Operating assistance, we're looking at the funding there across the years. FTA 5310, look at the funding 00:29:03.208 --> 00:29:13.162 - there, 5311, 5339. Total funding for rural transit is down here also. We recommended to rural transit 00:29:13.162 --> 00:29:20.286 - that their needs for fiscal year 28, that they add a 4% inflation factor 00:29:20.770 --> 00:29:27.758 - to all of the years that are out there in the outline years, which they did. Total federal funding for 00:29:27.758 --> 00:29:34.746 - Bloomington Transit, you can see that down there, 5.2 million beginning fiscal year 28 and 5.5 million 00:29:34.746 --> 00:29:41.734 - out in fiscal year 32. Total federal funding down there, big numbers, 6 million, 6 million essentially 00:29:41.734 --> 00:29:48.926 - all the way across, except for one year fiscal year 30 at 9 million. And then state funding, this is the, 00:29:49.250 --> 00:29:56.737 - Public Mass Transportation Fund. And this is the allocation which would come to Bloomington Transit 00:29:56.737 --> 00:30:04.299 - and to Rural Transit for their operations. Doug, I don't know if you want to add anything to this at 00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:12.385 - all on the transit purview. This all ignores the capital construction of the new administration maintenance 00:30:12.385 --> 00:30:15.006 - operations building on Curry Pike. 00:30:19.554 --> 00:30:30.431 - Yeah, we've seen some of these numbers. Part of the downward trend in this is related to, I believe, 00:30:30.431 --> 00:30:41.522 - some historical ridership levels. And we're working steadfastly with a new management company to right 00:30:41.522 --> 00:30:47.230 - that ship. And we look forward to different numbers. 00:30:47.554 --> 00:30:55.758 - Yeah, Bloomington Transit ridership is facing a number of challenges in that there are a number of other 00:30:55.758 --> 00:31:03.728 - multimodal opportunities. Number one, Bloomington Transit riders could use, if they're students, they 00:31:03.728 --> 00:31:11.698 - could use IU campus bus instead of Bloomington Transit. Number two, there are scooters. Number three, 00:31:11.698 --> 00:31:16.542 - there are e-bikes. Number four, we've increased the number of 00:31:16.994 --> 00:31:25.429 - multimodal pathways within the city of Bloomington. Number four, walking, good old-fashioned walking, 00:31:25.429 --> 00:31:33.946 - and that's up also. And then there are the drivers that are out there, but the campus itself is really 00:31:33.946 --> 00:31:42.215 - the driver around that center. And then what Bloomington Transit is focused on is what I would call 00:31:42.215 --> 00:31:45.854 - the non-rider or the non-traditional rider. 00:31:46.210 --> 00:31:53.765 - people who normally would not ride the bus, but would be brought in at a convenience factor. And that's 00:31:53.765 --> 00:32:00.448 - being done in a number of ways with paratransit. It's also being done with microtransit and 00:32:00.448 --> 00:32:08.004 - the experimentation of that. Also the partnerships with Uber and Lyft for after hours. A number of ways 00:32:08.004 --> 00:32:15.486 - are out there to increase the ridership. It's up to the consumer which modal choice they wish to make. 00:32:15.586 --> 00:32:25.288 - when they make the modal choice of public transportation, is it campus bus or is it Bloomington Transit? 00:32:25.288 --> 00:32:35.267 - Yeah, I couldn't have said it better myself, Pat. Thank you. A couple of other things. The battery electric 00:32:35.267 --> 00:32:45.246 - buses have a certain height requirement, which has limited the traditional routes that have served parts of 00:32:45.602 --> 00:32:59.793 - Eastern campus. We're also going to be doing a route optimization study under our new general management 00:32:59.793 --> 00:33:07.902 - company. One has not been done for some time and we hope to 00:33:08.962 --> 00:33:18.356 - to bring our routes more in line with consumer demand and at a far greater and more reliable frequency. 00:33:18.356 --> 00:33:27.479 - These are things that have been identified in a very short period of time under a new manager. We'll 00:33:27.479 --> 00:33:37.054 - continue to expand those and we're looking very positively at the future. These numbers are motivational. 00:33:37.282 --> 00:33:44.337 - You know, another observation, too, is that on-time performance has always been good for Bloomington 00:33:44.337 --> 00:33:51.392 - Transit. The challenge for Bloomington Transit is finding enough drivers. There's been a shortage of 00:33:51.392 --> 00:33:58.516 - drivers ever since the 2020 COVID. Well, yeah, since COVID shut down in 2020, there's been a shortage 00:33:58.516 --> 00:34:05.501 - of drivers and how to attract them and how to keep them has always been a big challenge. Well, it's 00:34:05.501 --> 00:34:07.038 - a very high standard. 00:34:07.938 --> 00:34:22.555 - It is a standard that is ignored by Uber and Lyft. And the hours are taxing and to provide service to 00:34:22.555 --> 00:34:35.166 - the community. But I will say that our driver base has a tremendous level of morale and 00:34:35.490 --> 00:34:44.567 - dedication to meeting the call to serve. So they're a unique, wonderful group, and it's hard to add 00:34:44.567 --> 00:34:54.552 - to them. But yes, we're down, I believe, nine drivers at this point in time where we'd like to be comfortably 00:34:54.552 --> 00:35:04.446 - to manage the system and be prepared for bips and bobbles that always hit you with weather and other issues. 00:35:05.954 --> 00:35:14.020 - Yeah, thanks for the time. One last thing I want to point out is that I think the Bloomington Transit's 00:35:14.020 --> 00:35:21.931 - fleet is 40% or 45% electric buses now. That's an achievement that they've gotten in the last four to 00:35:21.931 --> 00:35:29.765 - five years. That's cut the cost substantially in terms of fuel, in terms of maintenance, in terms of 00:35:29.765 --> 00:35:35.582 - wear and tear. And then also the delivery of the two new articulated buses 00:35:35.746 --> 00:35:43.439 - full length articulated buses in recent months too. I've seen those constantly and they've always been 00:35:43.439 --> 00:35:51.056 - full. Don't you feel like a bigger city with those things wobbling around? I just think they're cool. 00:35:51.056 --> 00:35:58.600 - Yeah, we'll have more of those. And I believe, I think I heard that the university may be adding one 00:35:58.600 --> 00:36:03.230 - or two as well. Because there are certain routes that require 00:36:04.098 --> 00:36:15.701 - that level of service on a regular basis. If you've got 60 people wanting to get on a 40-person bus, 00:36:15.701 --> 00:36:27.534 - it's hard to sell that product. But it also takes almost two years once an order is placed for the bus 00:36:27.534 --> 00:36:28.798 - to arrive. 00:36:30.690 --> 00:36:40.190 - Things are changing electrically, of course. You know, you can't buy an electric bus today, new one. 00:36:40.190 --> 00:36:50.067 - And parts are non-existent. In fact, they are done with 3D printers quite a bit now when they're needed. 00:36:50.067 --> 00:37:00.414 - Luckily, electrical formats are fairly maintenance-free and do not require a lot of that type of interaction. 00:37:01.314 --> 00:37:11.858 - Signs of the times. We are buying two hybrid buses here shortly, which is really about the best that 00:37:11.858 --> 00:37:22.402 - we can do environmentally at this point on produced units. But we'll continue to have that banner in 00:37:22.402 --> 00:37:27.518 - front of us of eliminating our carbon footprint. 00:37:30.722 --> 00:37:40.824 - Okay, and then moving on to page 21, which is the project list and map. Page 20, yeah, 21 actually ends 00:37:40.824 --> 00:37:51.509 - all the projects. And I'm not gonna go through all of these. These are the projects requested for programming 00:37:51.509 --> 00:38:00.446 - by Monroe County, City of Bloomington, Indiana Department of Transportation, Rural Transit, 00:38:01.026 --> 00:38:09.182 - Bloomington Transit. I might note, as I noted before the meeting, the project sponsored by the Department 00:38:09.182 --> 00:38:16.876 - of Transportation beginning on page 29, this list of projects is set. The fiscal constraint has not 00:38:16.876 --> 00:38:24.800 - been achieved on any of the state projects at this point in time. So those amounts that are programmed 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.494 - for each individual project may change slightly between now and December. 00:38:31.074 --> 00:38:38.410 - We submitted on October 13th, I believe I submitted the draft transportation improvement program for 00:38:38.410 --> 00:38:45.819 - review by the Indiana Department of Transportation, technical services staff, also by Federal Highway 00:38:45.819 --> 00:38:53.229 - Administration, Indiana Division and Federal Transit Administration's Division 5 office. They have 30 00:38:53.229 --> 00:38:57.950 - days to provide to us comments, review comments on the document. 00:38:58.402 --> 00:39:05.692 - As soon as we receive those comments, then we'll adjust the draft program into a final program, also 00:39:05.692 --> 00:39:12.910 - incorporating in all the public comments that we received during the public comment period. So what 00:39:12.910 --> 00:39:20.345 - you see now is, I don't know, 98 pages or so, and we may add another 12 to 20 pages, depending on what 00:39:20.345 --> 00:39:25.758 - happens between now and December. So any other questions anybody may have? 00:39:31.554 --> 00:39:49.617 - a lot to consume. Seeing no questions. Okay, moving on to public comment on non-voting matters not included 00:39:49.617 --> 00:39:52.126 - on the agenda. 00:39:57.602 --> 00:40:05.443 - Any communications from committee members on non-voting matters not included on the agenda? 00:40:05.443 --> 00:40:14.051 - Upcoming meetings, the technical advisory committee meeting will be December 2nd at 10 a.m. Citizens 00:40:14.051 --> 00:40:22.830 - advisory committee will be December 2nd at 530 p.m. And the next policy committee will be December 4th 00:40:22.830 --> 00:40:27.262 - at 1030 a.m. All the meetings are available hybrid. 00:40:29.218 --> 00:40:30.398 - We are adjourned.