Let's do it differently let's start at the back and swing around so I'll just add to you if you're a proxy for anyone just please let us know who you're pinch-hitting for today. Yes, please. Ryan Roebling, proxy David Hiddle. Lisa Salyers, area 10 real transit proxy for Chris Myers. John Connell, Bloomington Transit. Brian Falkowski, Bloomington Transit. Jackie Dillon, Monroe County Planning Department. Cheryl Gilliland, City of Bloomington deputy controller proxy for Jessica McClellan, controller City of Bloomington. Linnea Wellings, NDOT proxy for Rebecca Packer. Hunter Jackson, proxy for Breanne Gregory, Monroe County Auditor. John Baton, GIS coordinator Monroe County. Megan Blair, GIS manager City of Bloomington. Kelly Whitmer, Monroe County Parks and Recreation. Paul Satterly, Monroe County Highway Engineer. Nate Nichols, City of Bloomington Public Works Department. Neil Copper, proxy for the Bloomington City Engineer. Jane Flieg, City Bloomington Utilities. Pat Martin, MPO staff. Katie Andi, MPO staff. Okay, do we have anybody online? Yes, there is one person online. Do you want to go ahead and introduce yourself? Joe Van Diemener, Director of Street Operations, City of Bloomington. Okay, moving ahead on the agenda, approval of today's meeting agenda. It's an action item so I'll need... Move approval. Thank you, Jane. Okay. Thank you, Neil. Any public comment on today's agenda? Okay, appearing none. Staff for vote. Nate Nichol. Yes. Linnea Wellings. Yes. Jackie Jelen. Yes. Jane Fleague. Yes. John Connell. Yes. John Baten. Yes. Megan Blair. Yes. Kelly Whitmer. Yes. Joe Van Deventer. Yes. Hunter Jackson. Yes. Lisa Sawyers. Yes. Cheryl Gilliland. Yes. Motion passes. Oh, sorry, Neil Copper. Yes. Motion passes. Paul Satterly, yes. Oh, Brian Roebling, sorry. Yes. Did we get everybody? Yes. Motion passes. Okay, thank you, Katie. Moving ahead to election of calendar year 2025 technical advisory committee officers and do we have, well, how about we start with vice chair? Anyone interested in vice chair for 2025? I'd like to nominate John Baten, Monroe County GIS. Thanks, Paul. I'd be happy to take that role. Oh, we definitely appreciate your service as vice chair for past several years and John, it'd be great to have you. Anyone interested in the chair spot? I've done it for the last few years. I'm happy to continue doing it this year, but if anybody would like to grab the torch this year, I won't fight you off. I'll nominate Nate Nichol for chair. All right, thanks, Neil. Happy to do it again. Okay, any comment on that or we can, I guess, we can go to, we'll need a vote, a motion and a second on this one. I'll second both of those. Second from Ryan's motion. Thanks, John. Any public comment on the 2025 slate of officers? Hearing none, back to Katie for roll call vote. Linnea Wellings? Yes. Cheryl Gilliland? Yes. Brian Roebling? Yes. Jackie Jelen? Yes. Joe Van Deventer? Yes. Hunter Jackson? Yes. Kelly Whitmer? Yes. Neil Copper? Yes. John Connell. Yes. Jane Flake. Yes. John Baten. Yes. Megan Blair. Yes. Nate Nichol. Yes. Lisa Sawyers. Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Next item is approval of minutes from our last meeting on October 23rd, 2024. Do we have a motion to approve our October minutes? Motion to approve. John, do you have a second? Second. Thank you, Neil. Any public comment on our minutes from October? Okay, hearing none, back to staff. Kelly Whitmer. Oh, never mind. Kelly Whitmer. Yes. John Baten. Yes. Megan Blair. Yes. Oh, Paul, I missed you a couple times sorry about that. Paul, Paul Satterly. Yes, yes and yes. Thank you. I'm sorry. Linnea Wellings. Yes. Nate Nicol. Yes. Lisa Sawyers. Yes. Cheryl, Cheryl Gilliland. Yes. Hunter Jackson. Yes. Joe Van Deventer. Yes. John Connell. Yes. Jane Fleake. Yes. Neil Copper. Yes. Brian Roebling. Yes. Jackie Jalen. Yes. Thank you. Motion passes. Okay. Next item is communication from the Chair and Vice Chair. Paul, any updates to pass along? Yeah, sure. We've our Fullerton project and our Sunrise Greetings or Vernal Pike Connector project are coming along. Hopeful to set beams on the Vernal Pike Connector in February sometime and then hopefully finish up construction by I think it's scheduled for August of this year. Fullerton Pike, we got the bridge pretty much in. Still need the pedestrian railings but they're going to be starting on the sound wall in the middle of February. And we got about 26 truckloads of sound wall panels being delivered at this time. So if you're interested in what they're going to look like, they're out on Fullerton Pike at Rockport Road to take a look if you're interested. And that's pretty much it for this week. And I'll just say thank you for Paul for being vice chair of these past several years. Much appreciated. He's done a great job pinch hitting when I haven't been able to be at a meeting and looking forward to having John on board as vice chair and serving as the chair for 2025. Okay, moving ahead to reports from officers and committees. Anyone have an update or report to pass along? Okay, hearing none, we can jump the reports from MPO staff and we have a couple here. Sure. Why don't you guys flip a coin? Okay, I just wanted to point out that in the packet there is the 2025 meeting schedule for all of the committees, for the MPO. It was also emailed out to everyone. There are meeting invites that I think I have invited a lot of you to so that it's on the calendar, but those are kind of annoying sometimes. So if you don't want it on your calendar, feel free to let me know and I can remove you. But I do change the meeting invites to say canceled whenever a meeting is canceled. Otherwise, if you don't want the invite on your calendar, you'll just have to rely on the emails for cancellations. This was the only rescheduled meeting of the year, I believe, except for Thanksgiving. A TAC meeting was moved up one week because of Thanksgiving. So if anyone has any questions about that, feel free to bring it up. Katie, you have the calendar online, right? Does anybody can access this? Oh, yes, it is also posted online. If you go to the MPO web page and then click on the TAC box, it is linked on that page. Yes. This is in your packet. This was substantially updated this year over previous years, given legislation, recent legislation, and recent action also on the state level. This is intended for new members of the Technical Advisory Committee, and I don't see any new members here. Thank you all for coming back. But it also serves as a sort of a primary, if you will, for the Policy Committee members, the new ones where we have turnover in that, and then also for any Citizens Advisory Committee members or citizens who are tuning in from home or attending here in the audience. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have if you've got any on that. If not, I'll move along to the Transportation Improvement Program, the Draft Transportation Improvement Program. We submitted that to the Department of Transportation in November, public comment. We had a 30-day public comment period. We had a handful of small comments on the draft itself. The Indiana Department of Transportation took, and Federal Highway and Federal Transit Administration took almost 60 days to respond. They got us comments at the end of December. Our focus on this meeting, though, however, was on Metropolitan Transportation Plan. So we will return to you next month with a final of the Transportation Improvement Program. One other thing we had, too, was projects. We did not have fiscal constraint in the draft program because the numbers that were given to us by the Department of Transportation were preliminary. We now have final numbers, so we'll have to go through the issue of fiscal constraint for city and county projects. Those are the highway projects. And so we'll be getting with you on that. Other than that, the document is more or less done. It's just a matter of us doing the fiscal constraint issue. We've also requested what are called transportation improvement program numbers for the transit projects. They reordered, well, they wanted to reorder all the numbering on all the projects or the project assignment identifications. We requested that two weeks ago, and we haven't got a response yet. So Monday morning, we'll be calling them to obtain all of those. For the highway-related projects, I believe we have DES numbers on everything, don't we? Yeah, we have DES numbers on every project, every local project and every state project. So if you have any questions about that, please feel free to contact us and we'll share what we've got. The next item, the unified planning work program. We prepared the unified planning work program also in November, October, November. Went through a 30-day public comment period. Didn't receive any comments at all on the work program. The budget numbers were preliminary to begin with. They have since given us final numbers. We received a decrease in planning funds and this is because the state population grew, but Bloomington's proportional share of that population remained constant. And the reason it remained constant was because of the 2020 census when all the students went home. And so there was effectively what I would call an undercount in Bloomington, but in the non-university towns of the rest of the state, their population grew in proportion to us. So we're looking at somewhere around a 15% cut in our planning funds, which will make us tight in fiscal year 2026, starting July 1st, but we're okay for this year. And we will bring to you next month in the February meeting, we'll bring to you the final transportation improvement program, and we'll also bring to you for adoption the final unified planning work program. That's all we have right now. Any questions for staff on that, or any of those items? Bye, Jack. A quick question for Pat, and I know Katie joined us late last year, but we had been working on the complete streets document and that rubric to help us with the tip amendments. Are we still gonna restart that process just as a working group? We will restart that as a working group pending what's happening on the national level, because Safe Streets and Roads for All is one of the programs that was identified for scrutiny. The word scrutiny is the word they used. And complete streets was another one selected for scrutiny. Any, well, just about everything was identified for scrutiny, but yeah, we will be going back to complete streets. The complete streets focus will probably change substantially because of the Safe Streets and Roads for All plan that was adopted by the Bloomington City Council in December, December 13th, I believe it was. And then the plan commission, City Bloomington Plan Commission, re-adopted it also on, oh no, they adopted it on the 13th of January. It was somewhere around December 6th or 7th for the City Council. But that has in it a whole appendix on public involvement. And that public involvement process and complete streets, we will probably throw scoring out and instead we'll go with a different type of metric if that helps answer the question, okay? Thank you. - Yeah, sure. Any other questions for staff? Okay, and if you think of any next few days, you can always reach out as well. Moving ahead, no old business to consider so we can jump to new business. And it looks like we have several proposed tip amendments here. Yes, there are three proposed tip amendments. So the first is related to the Special Safety Projects Award that the county received. It is for road reconstruction and rehabilitation. They're going to do high friction surface treatment. They were awarded the money in December of 2024. So that needs to be added to the current tip. They have two years to complete the project. And so here are the funds that will be added per that award. (silence) The second tip amendment is an addition of a new INDOT project. Let me go back real quick. So, now I have to re-share. These are the locations of the High Friction Surface Treatment Project for the county. Okay, the next amendment is a new INDOT project for soil repair. Letting of September of 25. And they only have given us one location so far at the I-69 and SR-37 interchange. This is two million in fiscal year 26. The third amendment is the City of Bloomington's special safety call awarded project from December of 24 for downtown curb ramps phase four. This was an existing project in the tip. So it's just an amendment of funding due to the award that was granted. So here's the current and proposed funding. The totals are going from 1,025,000 to 1,091,000. So we are seeking approval for all three of these tip amendments. Let me know if you have questions. Any questions for staff? Okay, hearing none, is there a motion to approve the three proposed tip amendments? Motion to approve. Thanks, John. Do I have a second? Thanks, John. Any public comment on the proposed tip amendments? Yeah, the high friction surface treatment project for Monroe County is on Fairfax Road. We're gonna be putting that treatment on four curve locations where we've had the highest number of off-road incidents. So that's the purpose of that project. Thanks, Paul. Katie, I think we can turn it over to you for a roll call vote. Yes. Paul Satterly. Yes. Linnea Wellings. Yes. Kelly Whitmer. Yes. John Baten. Yes. Jackie Tracy Jelen. Yes. Ryan Roebling. Yes. Nate Nicol. Yes. Lisa Salyers. Yes. Cheryl Gilliland. Yes. Joe Van Deventer. Yes. Hunter Jackson. Yes. Megan Blair. Yes. Jane Fleake. Yes. John Connell. Neil Copper. Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you, Katie. Okay, moving ahead to the 2050 Metropolitan Transportation Plan, looking for final adoption today. Thank you, Nate. The 2050 Metropolitan Transportation Plan represents our high-level overview of where we are, where we wanna be, how we'll achieve the goals that we want to achieve over the course of the next 20 to 25 years. Under current federal regulations, we're required to have, we, the urbanized area, are required to have at minimum a 20-year plan vision outlining our guiding principles, performance, existing conditions, stakeholder involvement, and a number of other things. And what I'll do is I'll briefly walk through you on a high-level, higher level. What I call this is a 40,000-foot view in terms of where we aspire to be by the year 2050. This was prepared for us by Burgess and Niple, consultants and also Foursquare ITP and Tool Design. This is the first consultant-prepared Metropolitan Transportation Plan we've had in eight years. This was a joint venture between Monroe County and City of Bloomington staff in terms of funding the project, funding the study itself, the Metropolitan Transportation Plan at a cost of $200,000. We went through an extensive public involvement process, and I'll go through that too. If you just look at the table of contents, the guiding principles, well, the study area has changed in that from the last Metropolitan Transportation Plan because of the 2020 census, expanded our urban area to the south to include some area down by the Lake Monroe area, which in the census department's view will become urbanized by the year 2030. We have some questions on that, but that's what the census said. So our urban area remained what I would call 98% the same with small addition to the south. Guiding principles, our vision, goals, and objectives remained identical to what they were in the, or what they currently are in the 2045 Metropolitan Transportation Plan and also what they are or were in the 2040 Metropolitan Transportation Plan, where our focus is on safety, preservation, maintenance, and then added capacity in new facilities are our lowest priority. But safety, safety, safety, I can't say that enough. That's our vision and our goals and objectives there. Chapter three, the performance-based planning. This is relatively new from the last five years in that we're required by legislation from Congress to show performance-based planning, where we establish performance measures, safety performance measures, and those include safety performance measures, pavement condition target performance measures, bridge performance measures, system performance measures. And then we're required to show the adoption of those performance targets by the Indiana Department of Transportation. In other words, we're in lockstep with them. And then we're also required to have transit performance measures that are stipulated by the Federal Transit Administration. All of those are documented from page 25 to page 30 in the plan. Existing conditions, the inventory existing conditions looked at demographic economic characteristics, population trends. The key here is that the population trends are showing a flattening of the population, which is a reflection of the aging, I guess you would say, of the community. But our pattern or our trend here in this area is substantially, well, it shows a higher growth rate than the balance of the state of Indiana. State of Indiana as a whole is showing an aging population. Whereas we maintain our youth by virtue of the fact that we have the university here in Ivy Tech State College. It shows Monroe County population over time, components of the population change, population estimates by age, education attainment. We're one of the highest educational attainment counties in the state of Indiana, which you would expect. Commuting characteristics, we also differ from the remainder of the state in that we have a higher propensity for travel by transit, public transit, by walking, by bicycling, and/or scooter by that matter too. Commuter vehicle availability, we have that outlined. Equity considerations were also something that we had to consider in terms of housing costs, housing and transportation costs in Monroe County as a whole. Land use and points of interest, low income population density. And then we moved on to transportation systems analysis. The safety, this is completely different than the previous plan in the sense that we have a focus now on fatal and serious injury crashes, what we call FSI. That has been sharply focused from over the last five years and you'll see that in the form of what I would call a crash dashboard coming out in the very near future. We also have an emphasis on bicycle and pedestrian crash locations. We've always had that. And if anything, that's even more sharp than ever. Transit routes and facilities, Bloomington Transit's routes changed substantially over a route optimization, which they went through a few years ago. The fare system also went through a change. We have passenger me, I'm sorry, passenger miles and ridership, individual routes. We have a section there on pedestrian, bicycle and scooters and showing a substantial increase in the, what I would call the trails or the bikeway, bike pathways, either they are a dedicated facility or a shared facility of some type or is another. We've had a sharp increase of those in the last five years thanks to aggressive efforts on both the part of the county and the city. Chapter five goes into extensive detail on the public and stakeholder involvement process where we had an engagement timeline, we had a number of public meetings. We went through an online survey which was every bit as extensive as what we did five years ago where we asked questions about commuting and usage of transportation systems, perception of safety, infrastructure, condition feedback survey. Also our committee on engagement, focus groups that we met with to stakeholder meetings we had and key engagement takeaways. Regional needs assessment was more of what I would call a macro approach where we looked at roadway and active transportation needs and transit needs, those were quite extensive. The financial forecast was actually compressed from what it was in previous years in that we made an assumption, perhaps it might have been the wrong assumption, we assumed that federal funding would be available over the near term of the next five to 10 years for a variety of programs. We looked at what those federal resource programs were, federal funding projections, state of Indiana investments, federal transit program formula grants, capital investment grants, state assistance, local resources and we also looked at the issue of fiscal constraint to the year 2050. Recommendations, we have a list of projects in chapter eight where we have a list of local projects in the, what I would call the immediate term or the near term fiscal year 2026, 2030. This includes our proposed transportation improvement programs that will be coming to you in final form next month. It also includes 2050 local and metropolitan projects, public transit projects from the year 2026 to 2030, INDOT projects 2026 to 2030. And then we have illustrative projects beyond that where we don't know exactly or well, we don't know precisely what the funding will be. So we have a long list of what I would call an illustrative projects and all of these have been identified as needs and wants. And then the conclusion of the document itself has the transportation planning requirements which we must meet for the Indiana Department of Transportation, Federal Highway Administration, Federal Transit Administration, air quality and climate change assessments. We do not have an air quality issue of any type here and never have had and hopefully we never will have, but the climate change assessments are critical in the sense that that is changing and that will impact greatly the entire infrastructure investment system that we have. We have a substantial area of environmental justice. This looks at environmental justice maps and in terms of where the populations are and the concentrations and then that is matched up with where the investments are being made, have been made and where they are being made and whether they shall be made in the future. And then we have the public survey results and the focus group summaries. And then with that, I'll stop and ask if there are any questions. Oh, the disclaimer in here, all two by the way, is that the preparation of the document was financed in part through Federal Highway and Federal Transit Administration under the MPO Metropolitan Planning Program. The contents of the report do not necessarily reflect the official views of policies, the U.S. Department of Transportation or the Indiana Department of Transportation. So I'll be happy to take any questions you may have. Pat, can I see the environmental justice map? Yes, just a minute. Appendix eight. - You got it? Oh, you got it, jeez, okay. And so the blue is, or sorry, the purple is the areas of concern? Well, they're classified as low to moderate income. As low, sure. Low to moderate income and/or transit dependent. Okay. I was just, this is a comment that, or a conversation we've had in the past, but it does still include IU, which clearly, it does meet those demographical criteria, but with an observation, it's also apparent that that's a population that funding probably isn't necessarily needed for. I think the Crestmont neighborhood and other areas in the near west side of Bloomington would probably have better spaces for that funding. Those are just my opinions. Yeah, I mean, we agree with that. Crestwood, Reverend Butler neighborhood. Yep. Yeah, I mean, I call those traditional environmental justice areas. Last year, at the request of the Technical Advisory Committee, I made an inquiry to the Federal Highway Administration staff in Indianapolis about the university inclusion in that. I received a substantial pushback on that, almost a spanking in the way. Don't even question that at all. So it's in there, I mean, what we did was we followed the requirements to the T, didn't go any farther than that, but that's what we did was identify the populations that are in there, and the environmental justice areas were also identified using U.S. Environmental Protection Agencies, EJMAP. Theirs is substantially, I'll say this in public, is substantially better than the Federal Highway Administration's EJMAP. I mean, it's the best one out there, so that's the one that we've used, and that's what you're seeing the reflection of right there. Cool, thanks, Pat. Okay. Yes, Jackie. This looks really nice. Thanks for putting this together, Pat. Thanks. I had a question on figure nine, which is existing bikeways. I think that the Carsterm Greenway could be added to that. That's on page 92 of the packet. Yeah, there's an issue with the existing bikeways. And greenways, yeah, bike lanes and greenways. I just, I didn't know who was, I think we've been working on a map. I know John and Megan have been helping with that, so. That's the operative word, been working for the county. Yes, yes, so I didn't know if that was something at this point that could be added in there, if it was helpful or if you. We wanted to add that in, but there was not a GIS map available of Monroe County. Of Monroe County bike and pedestrian facilities. I mean, we wanted that in there in the worst way. Okay. And John can attest to this. Go ahead, John. Well, I'll disagree. Oh, okay, yeah, I mean, the city of Bloomington, GIS for those types of facilities is 100% up to date. Whereas the county's not there yet. It probably will be, I'll knock on wood, probably will be this year. And I can articulate a little bit of that too for the county's sake. In terms of asset management, our data is different than the city's in terms of our maturity as well for that type of data. It's maybe not there yet. We do have fairly good data for those linear routes, those trail systems. In terms of bikeways, that data is, I should say the linear trail systems in terms of sidewalks which we've been passing data back and forth with. But the bikeways and bike paths and stuff like that, that data we don't have in a line format is based on signs that we have right now. So that's the way that those assets have been managed. And so we have identified where there are signage that say this is a bike crossing or a pedestrian crossing. And so we're working on trying to generate that into a more, into a linear format for those systems. However, things like the Karst Farm Greenway is a known trail system, right? So I'm in agreement there that that should be there, yeah. There is GIS data for the Karst one. Why that's not there, that's for the contractor and the MPO to decide. I'm sorry? The Karst Parkway is a GIS layer already from the county. So why it's not on this map, that's for the MPO and your contractor to determine why. Maybe at the time of the deliverable, Karst Park, that line on the map wasn't drawn yet, right? If I can add, it also just looks like perhaps the city's multi-use path system was turned off when this map was created. I know there's line work for those as well and they're not showing up here. Okay, we'll have to get with you after the meeting then. The consultant gets a couple of demerit points in the intro section for calling it the University of Indiana. That always happens on final four time, but. Okay, any additional ones? GIS, any other topic for that matter? This is more just me being a curious person. Something that I notice quite often is that I get alerts in the summer about air quality concerns for Bloomington, and I was always wondering what those were, and I know in this report it says we don't have any air quality concerns, and I'm not sure if those are from, I think it's generally like an ozone concern is what we're getting in the summer, and so I guess that's not part of this report. No, those are ozone awareness days that come out, and typically those come out in July, August. I tend not to use my Aquanet on those days. Yeah, yeah. Those typically come out late July, August, the dog days of August and the earlier part of September, and we do have a monitor. I mean, Indiana Department of Environmental Management has an air quality monitor. It's part of the state implementation plan. The monitor is at Binford Elementary School. That data is online, and it's been online since 2013, I think, monthly data and Excel spreadsheet in 2013. Now, looking at that data, the PM2.5 is what it measures, and PM2.5 was, that's particulate matter, 2.5 microns for those that don't know, but the PM2.5 standard was just recently reduced to nine parts, and we are at seven, so we're still well under, well under the standard right now for the US EPA. Now, I don't see that standard under the current circumstances for the next four years. I don't see that standard tightening any at all. It should remain the same. I hope to God it's not loosened because 2.5 has substantial implications for public health. Now, maybe John was referring to the Canadian wildfires. That's when we got the alerts. Yeah, there's those, and then there's, that was pretty wild when those wildfires were occurring, but there are the ozone alerts that happen. I think it's just like throughout the summer. But yeah, great point, Kelly. Thanks, and thanks, Pat, for the clarification. Are there questions or comments for staff on the 2050 Metropolitan Transportation Plan? Technical questions, please. We'll take policy questions too. Okay, hearing none, I entertain a motion to approve the 2050 Metropolitan Transportation Plan. Motion to approve. John, do I have a second? Second. Jane? Any public comment on the 2050 Metropolitan Transportation Plan? Okay, hearing none, back to staff for roll call vote. This is an approval with the fixing of the things you brought up today, just to be clear. Kelly Whitmer? Yes. Joe Van Deventer? Yes. Hunter Jackson? Yes. John Connell? Yes. Jane Fleek? Yes. Payton? Yes. Nate Nichol? Yes. Lisa Salyers? Yes. Cheryl Gilliland? Yes. Paul Satterly? Yes. Linnea Wellings? Yes. Ryan Robling? Yes. Jackie Jelen? Yes. Neil Copper? Yes. Megan Blair? Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you. Moving along, any public comment on matters we did not touch on on today's agenda? Hearing none, any communications from any committee members on matters we did not include on today's agenda? That can include communication or suggestions for future meeting agendas? I'm just curious if we're going to stick with this format. The roll call vote is just timely, it takes time, so I don't know if we're going to stick with the hybrid meetings or go back to none or what the plan is. The format of the hybrid meetings was dictated to us by the General Assembly. So what we do is we follow the guidance from the General Assembly and from legal counsel and that's what we do. So as far as until otherwise directed on the federal level, we'll go with that. Thank you. I know this has been a longer meeting already, but I do have a comment and I wanted to commend the City of Bloomington and Monroe County Road maintenance crews for the cleaning up of streets after the big snowstorm. At the same time, I am an active runner in town and a pedestrian and I did see in the analysis of one of the reports you presented showing that Bloomington is a community that has a large demographic of people that are using sidewalks and things like that for getting around. In my travels through town, I will say that the cleanup of these sidewalks has been, for lack of better words, visible in some areas. So I would be interested in what processes the city and the county are using to address those things. There are some sidewalks right now that have heavy pedestrian usage that have a three inch deep layer of ice on them. These are fairly heavily used that are within easements that are maintained by the city or for different private entities and things like that. So that's one thing. And I would also offer that Monroe County GIS would be happy to deploy a web application or something like that to assist if that would be something that might be of interest. I know the e-reporting system has been used, but I'm just trying to think of proactive measures. If no one in this group wants to speak to that, I certainly can. So tomorrow, this is a known issue for the City of Bloomington Council and the Office of the Mayor. There is a department head level meeting tomorrow regarding snow removal. GIS team has already created a draft interactive web application for the areas that are removed or cleared from snow on city property, as well as RDC properties and parks property. And that will be made available to the public, a pending approval by the Office of the Mayor. So I guess I will just say sit tight. We're working on it. Awesome. Thanks, Megan. Thanks, Megan. Yeah, I'll echo what John said. The crews did a great job with the snow that just kept coming and coming. And sidewalks were an issue in the city. It's unique where the sidewalks are the responsibility of the property owner. So clearing snow is the onus is on the property owner unless it's a side path, which public works responsibility. So just some of the things out there is please help your neighbors. We also have a volunteer shoveling program. And it's really I know we got a lot of snow, but just like you said, those are pretty, pretty heavily traveled. So people need to be aware that there's a responsibility and get out there and shovel. Thanks, Megan. Topic suggestion for a future meeting. I know that the Indianapolis MPO utilizes a program where they basically swap their federal funding or state funding. And they get, I think, 90 percent of the total funding, but then they don't have as many requirements on that funding. They don't have to go through the NEPA process. There's a lot less risk for losing your funding when you don't have the same, you know, permits and delays for going through the kind of full in that process. So I think there are a lot of benefits to it. I'm not saying that this MPO would definitely be interested, but I do think it is worth looking into and seeing is that an option for us learning more about it and just having that information. We can do that. Any other comments, suggestions, just topics anyone would like to pass along. Go ahead, Jackie. I wanted to tell MPO staff, I really like the addition of the map link for the tip amendments that really helped me. So thank you for that. I second that. Yes, that is nice. 100% credit goes to Katie. Any other items. Okay, with that we have a couple upcoming meetings, our next meeting will be February 26 at 10am. We'll see you then. Thank you everybody for spending some time this morning. I know it's a longer meeting, but it's definitely good to all be in the same room and and tackle some of these issues so thank you and we'll see you next month. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 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