WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.260 - >> Hi, everyone. I'm going to encourage you. We don't usually sit up on a tall stage like 00:00:08.260 --> 00:00:13.380 - this. This is a very formal auditorium. I'll encourage you to come as close as you want 00:00:13.380 --> 00:00:20.460 - to come. I'm Mayor Carrie Thompson, and I have with me tonight the director of our Housing 00:00:20.460 --> 00:00:26.580 - and Neighborhood Development Department, Anna Killian Hansen. And the way we usually do 00:00:26.580 --> 00:00:36.260 - these things is we give you some high-level updates about what's happening in the city. 00:00:36.260 --> 00:00:41.040 - Anna's here to specifically highlight some housing things. I'll give you some more general 00:00:41.040 --> 00:00:49.400 - updates as well. And then we will take questions, and I think in this format we're probably 00:00:49.400 --> 00:00:57.740 - going to take note card questions because Katz is up there and we need to broadcast the question. 00:00:57.740 --> 00:01:03.600 - So we'll take note card questions and repeat them back. Lucas, can you wave your hand for 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:08.980 - us? So Lucas is around, he's on our comms team, and then Desiree and Paige will come in as 00:01:08.980 --> 00:01:14.900 - well and they'll help facilitate the note cards. Were you offered note cards when you 00:01:14.900 --> 00:01:21.520 - came in? Okay, great. If you want to pre-fill them out, it doesn't have to be anything related 00:01:21.520 --> 00:01:28.060 - to what I'm saying or what Anna's saying. This really is your opportunity to ask whatever 00:01:28.060 --> 00:01:37.060 - you want and really to steer the conversation. I do these town halls every other month and 00:01:37.060 --> 00:01:41.520 - we travel to the different city council districts. You don't have to be from this district to 00:01:41.520 --> 00:01:45.660 - come to this town hall. You're encouraged to come to any that you want. In the months 00:01:45.660 --> 00:01:51.340 - that I'm not doing town halls, I do traveling office hours. That's a better opportunity 00:01:51.340 --> 00:01:56.940 - to sit down one on one with me, talk about some things that you want direct answers to 00:01:56.940 --> 00:02:03.420 - or you may not feel comfortable asking in public. This month, obviously, traveling town 00:02:03.420 --> 00:02:10.240 - hall, traveling office hours in November. I can't even believe it's October already. 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:17.940 - We also do door knocking. I go out once a month with at least one of my team members, 00:02:17.940 --> 00:02:25.060 - sometimes two or three. We go to different neighborhoods. If you want us in your neighborhood, 00:02:25.060 --> 00:02:31.260 - just ask because we pick different neighborhoods every single time. We don't tend to repeat 00:02:31.260 --> 00:02:37.060 - neighborhoods at least not until we cycle through them all. Rain or shine, we're out 00:02:37.060 --> 00:02:43.520 - knocking doors once a month. That actually is where I sometimes get the very best information 00:02:43.520 --> 00:02:54.440 - from people. Come on in, Eric. We're glad to have you. You who need no intro to the 00:02:54.440 --> 00:03:04.380 - town halls. We are working on a new city website. For all of you who have had frustrations with 00:03:04.380 --> 00:03:12.020 - the city website, join the club. I find it incredibly hard to navigate. And so I'm delighted. 00:03:12.020 --> 00:03:18.380 - Desiree is leading that charge. She's our communications director. And in 2026, we will 00:03:18.380 --> 00:03:26.660 - have a new and improved website that I anticipate will be 100 times more user friendly. So look 00:03:26.660 --> 00:03:31.740 - forward to that. I want to start this evening by just talking 00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:39.780 - about some public safety events that have happened in the past couple of weeks. You 00:03:39.780 --> 00:03:48.900 - may have read that we had a shooting in close to the Hopewell neighborhood. I don't think 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:56.100 - I'm speaking out of turn. And if I am, they will reprimand me later. We are very pleased 00:03:56.100 --> 00:04:04.980 - that we made an arrest today in that case. And we are, I'm really proud of the police's 00:04:04.980 --> 00:04:12.660 - work in that case. We are committed to keeping Bloomington safe. And our police department 00:04:12.660 --> 00:04:18.380 - is more fully staffed than it has been in a long time. We're working on getting it fully, 00:04:18.380 --> 00:04:27.120 - fully staffed. And we're making great progress with that. We have, Wes is here from the fire 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:36.020 - department. Our fire department is fully staffed. And really delighted about that. And my thanks 00:04:36.020 --> 00:04:43.580 - to Fire One, who has a brand new station, for responding so quickly to the first Christian 00:04:43.580 --> 00:04:55.180 - Church fire this past week. They were on scene almost immediately and really made a bad situation 00:04:55.180 --> 00:05:04.420 - not quite as bad. So my thanks to Fire. We dedicated the new, or we unlatched the hose. 00:05:04.420 --> 00:05:09.500 - Is that what you say? Yeah. We uncoupled the hose today at Fire Three. The renovations 00:05:09.500 --> 00:05:15.020 - are done there. And so all of that is part of the public safety grant, public safety 00:05:15.020 --> 00:05:21.620 - bond that we've had for several years. And if you were watching those council proceedings 00:05:21.620 --> 00:05:28.180 - during the approval of that, of course, the fire projects were to be prioritized because 00:05:28.180 --> 00:05:35.500 - those were the top safety issue at that point. So we have prioritized those. We have one 00:05:35.500 --> 00:05:44.980 - more fire project to go. And then that bond is pretty well spent. So let's see. I want 00:05:44.980 --> 00:05:53.220 - to talk a little bit before Anna talks about housing housing. I want to talk about the 00:05:53.220 --> 00:05:59.380 - challenge that is on many people's minds, which is homelessness. And of course, homelessness 00:05:59.380 --> 00:06:08.340 - has everything to do with housing, and it also has many, many other facets to it. What 00:06:08.340 --> 00:06:15.300 - we are seeing now is that homelessness affects everyone in the city, whether you are experiencing 00:06:15.300 --> 00:06:22.380 - homelessness yourself, if you have a loved one who may be unhoused in this moment, or 00:06:22.380 --> 00:06:33.900 - you are seeing the impacts of people who are living unhoused on our city. We're not unlike 00:06:33.900 --> 00:06:41.860 - other cities in having a rise in homelessness. Heading Home is the umbrella organization 00:06:41.860 --> 00:06:49.780 - that is set up to set best practices and get the teams working together to address the 00:06:49.780 --> 00:06:58.270 - system and service gaps that exist with homelessness. We are, in my administration, really 00:06:58.270 --> 00:06:59.140 - committed 00:06:59.140 --> 00:07:09.080 - to working on the root causes of homelessness. That is a lack of affordable housing, so we're 00:07:09.080 --> 00:07:17.660 - working hard on that. We also are looking to county, state, and federal partners to 00:07:17.660 --> 00:07:24.180 - help on the untreated mental illness. There is a real deficit in mental health treatment 00:07:24.180 --> 00:07:31.180 - in our community and across the nation, and if you have read the president's executive 00:07:31.180 --> 00:07:41.260 - order related to homelessness, you'll note that he orders mental health treatment. Unfortunately, 00:07:41.260 --> 00:07:48.380 - that order cannot be fulfilled at this point because there's no funding and service providers 00:07:48.380 --> 00:07:54.840 - available to fulfill that part of the mission. Otherwise, I agree, we need to increase mental 00:07:54.840 --> 00:08:02.740 - health provision. While this is not unique to Bloomington, I am firm in my belief that 00:08:02.740 --> 00:08:08.140 - if there is any city in this country that can solve homelessness, it is Bloomington, 00:08:08.140 --> 00:08:16.860 - Indiana. Our numbers are relatively low compared to many other cities. We only have just over 00:08:16.860 --> 00:08:24.740 - 300 people who are experiencing homelessness, and what that means in a city as innovative 00:08:24.740 --> 00:08:32.180 - and compassionate as Bloomington is that we really have an opportunity to create solutions 00:08:32.180 --> 00:08:38.900 - that others have not tried, and try them, and work on them together until we actually 00:08:38.900 --> 00:08:47.720 - figure out what is dissolving the problem. Some say that you need as many solutions as 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:53.100 - you have people who are experiencing homelessness. I think you need probably as many different 00:08:53.100 --> 00:09:00.820 - combinations. It's a discrete math problem. They're not all unique. We need different 00:09:00.820 --> 00:09:05.980 - combinations of services for different people, but we have a new Lilly grant through the 00:09:05.980 --> 00:09:12.860 - Community Foundation that's going to fund a lot of caseworkers, and we have some new 00:09:12.860 --> 00:09:19.100 - reunification funds coming from Community Foundation, and then also the city of Bloomington 00:09:19.100 --> 00:09:25.460 - has some reunification funds in our next year's budget, and that can help people who may have 00:09:25.460 --> 00:09:30.700 - come here thinking that there were enough services for us to house everybody to get 00:09:30.700 --> 00:09:37.300 - back to where their safety nets really are, back to where their parents are, their siblings 00:09:37.300 --> 00:09:45.700 - are, and to reunify with that support system. There are 126 shelters in Indiana outside 00:09:45.700 --> 00:09:51.380 - of Indianapolis and Bloomington, and so part of this reunification is let's get you back 00:09:51.380 --> 00:09:56.340 - close to home. If you do need to be sheltered, let's at least get you to a shelter in your 00:09:56.340 --> 00:10:06.420 - home community that can connect you with further case management and solutions. Stride is the 00:10:06.420 --> 00:10:13.900 - organization that has used the Community Foundation funds for reunification, and I want to make 00:10:13.900 --> 00:10:21.660 - sure everybody understands what Stride does. Stride is a 24-hour, 365-day-a-year crisis 00:10:21.660 --> 00:10:28.540 - center here in Bloomington. We have Stride's cards at the table out there, and I have one 00:10:28.540 --> 00:10:38.460 - in one of my pockets. If you all are in a place as many of you all are, if you eat downtown, 00:10:38.460 --> 00:10:47.260 - if you walk the beeline, if you walk other places in town, I'm sure you may encounter 00:10:47.260 --> 00:10:54.460 - people who are actively experiencing a crisis. Stride is the crisis center, and they have 00:10:54.460 --> 00:11:01.020 - mobile outreach. That means they are the best place to call unless there is a dangerous 00:11:01.020 --> 00:11:07.060 - criminal activity happening, and then, of course, call the police. But Stride has full-time 00:11:07.060 --> 00:11:15.420 - mental health professionals. They are at the center, and they're a division of Centerstone, 00:11:15.420 --> 00:11:21.180 - and what most people need when they're in crisis is not an interaction with the police. 00:11:21.180 --> 00:11:30.180 - It is an entry into care that actually will help them, ultimately. Again, I don't want 00:11:30.180 --> 00:11:34.500 - to discourage you from calling the police if there's criminal or dangerous activity, 00:11:34.500 --> 00:11:40.900 - but if somebody is in crisis and there is no danger to you or others, I encourage you 00:11:40.900 --> 00:11:46.580 - to call Stride. We have learned from Stride that it takes several interactions, sometimes, 00:11:46.580 --> 00:11:51.940 - for somebody to engage in longer-term care with them, so if you're seeing the same individual 00:11:51.940 --> 00:11:56.100 - over and over again, feel free to call them. It's about relationship building and trust 00:11:56.100 --> 00:12:01.940 - building, and this is an incredible community resource that many, many communities do not 00:12:01.940 --> 00:12:08.820 - have. So take a Stride card, put it in your pocket, better yet, plug their phone number 00:12:08.820 --> 00:12:17.380 - into your phone. Again, it's 24/7, so that is a good thing to have with you. You will 00:12:17.380 --> 00:12:24.620 - see, and I want to give a big shout out to Cook, around the community, there will be 00:12:24.620 --> 00:12:30.420 - added marketing and advertising about Stride, because Stride can only reach as many people 00:12:30.420 --> 00:12:38.740 - as they know about, and so we want everybody to know about Stride and use that resource. 00:12:38.740 --> 00:12:45.340 - Cook has funded some marketing design, and we've already got at least one billboard up 00:12:45.340 --> 00:12:52.260 - in town. You'll see a bus wrap soon. We really are advocating for people to use this incredible 00:12:52.260 --> 00:13:03.300 - service. We really need everybody on the homeless front to be rowing in the same direction. We 00:13:03.300 --> 00:13:10.340 - need high accountability. We need high service, and we need to make sure that we're proactively 00:13:10.340 --> 00:13:16.340 - working towards solutions that actually work for our community. We have partnered deeply 00:13:16.340 --> 00:13:23.820 - with many service organizations, all of them that are providing shelter, food, et cetera, 00:13:23.820 --> 00:13:32.980 - and we are making progress on getting to solutions that actually work. This is not a short game 00:13:32.980 --> 00:13:38.100 - though. This is not something we're going to solve tomorrow. It is something that's 00:13:38.100 --> 00:13:46.180 - going to take years to truly get the systems in place that are going to solve this challenge. 00:13:46.180 --> 00:13:50.940 - I am going to hand things over to Anna, because I've already talked for 15 minutes, and let 00:13:50.940 --> 00:13:54.780 - her talk for a while, and then we'll take questions. 00:13:54.780 --> 00:14:02.820 - Can you hear me? Is this working? Okay, great. Hi, I am Anna Killian Hansen. I am the Director 00:14:02.820 --> 00:14:06.980 - of Housing and Neighborhood Development, and I'm also the Executive Director of the Redevelopment 00:14:06.980 --> 00:14:12.500 - Commission. I'm a townie. I've been here my whole life. I've worked in real estate or 00:14:12.500 --> 00:14:18.380 - been around real estate literally my entire life. I've had the pleasure of helping residents 00:14:18.380 --> 00:14:25.420 - from all walks of life find a place to live for 25 years. One thing is for certain in 00:14:25.420 --> 00:14:32.740 - the housing world, housing is an ecosystem. Your housing needs change over time. The first 00:14:32.740 --> 00:14:37.380 - place that you live after leaving the nest is likely not the same place that will fit 00:14:37.380 --> 00:14:43.860 - your needs over time. Space needs change. What you can afford changes. Physical needs 00:14:43.860 --> 00:14:50.460 - change. How you live your life changes. The progression of needs through different stages 00:14:50.460 --> 00:14:58.100 - of life is often referred to as a housing ladder. Unfortunately, right now Bloomington 00:14:58.100 --> 00:15:05.500 - is the most housing cost burdened metro area in the state. High cost, low wage. 60% of 00:15:05.500 --> 00:15:10.920 - our households are cost burdened spending more than 30% of their monthly income on housing 00:15:10.920 --> 00:15:19.980 - costs. The demand for our housing has outpaced our growth of housing development. And 72% 00:15:19.980 --> 00:15:27.060 - of our workforce do not live in Bloomington. A lot want to, but they can't. I don't know 00:15:27.060 --> 00:15:31.260 - if any of you have bought or sold a house since 2020 or experienced what the market 00:15:31.260 --> 00:15:37.240 - was like. But if you did, you likely understood that if you wanted to buy a house, you had 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:44.140 - to compete with at least eight other buyers. You had to likely waive inspections. You had 00:15:44.140 --> 00:15:52.740 - to bid well over asking price. And oftentimes you had to ask for an appraisal gap. At that 00:15:52.740 --> 00:16:00.860 - time interest rates were so low that it really was tolerable. The payments were tolerable. 00:16:00.860 --> 00:16:07.780 - But right now we are experiencing something called the golden handcuffs. Folks are restricted 00:16:07.780 --> 00:16:13.460 - from moving or buying a new home due to the low interest rate on a current mortgage. The 00:16:13.460 --> 00:16:18.780 - golden handcuff effect occurs because refinancing or selling to buy a new home with current 00:16:18.780 --> 00:16:23.760 - higher interest rates would significantly increase monthly payments, making it financially 00:16:23.760 --> 00:16:32.660 - difficult to move even if other opportunities arose. Middle income households have been 00:16:32.660 --> 00:16:37.280 - forced to either occupy lower quality housing that would traditionally be available for 00:16:37.280 --> 00:16:44.040 - low income households or become cost burdened in upper income housing. So what exactly does 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:50.940 - that mean? It means we do not have the movement in our housing ladder that we normally would. 00:16:50.940 --> 00:16:56.520 - People are staying put. Most homeowners tend to stay in their homes for around eight years 00:16:56.520 --> 00:17:01.460 - and then move up or down in the ladder. That's not happening at the pace it normally would 00:17:01.460 --> 00:17:07.020 - right now. If people are listing their homes, for the most part, we're seeing some reality 00:17:07.020 --> 00:17:12.980 - checks. People can't afford to pay the prices they did when rates were low. Housing is an 00:17:12.980 --> 00:17:19.020 - ecosystem. I talk to a lot of people and the perception of many is that we should just 00:17:19.020 --> 00:17:25.780 - go build affordable housing, but it really is just not that simple. Developers face scarcity 00:17:25.780 --> 00:17:32.220 - of available land, high land costs, zoning restrictions, high interest rates, and increased 00:17:32.220 --> 00:17:38.420 - construction costs, tariffs, all of which add cost to the overall project. You cannot 00:17:38.420 --> 00:17:44.500 - just go build affordable housing, not without significant subsidies. Projects just cannot 00:17:44.500 --> 00:17:52.040 - pencil out. A lot of effort went into developing our current unified development ordinance, 00:17:52.040 --> 00:17:59.780 - which is our land use restrictions. I believe that it was developed with the best of intentions. 00:17:59.780 --> 00:18:05.940 - That being said, the market has changed significantly since that document was developed. Our local 00:18:05.940 --> 00:18:13.260 - community has developer fatigue. Currently, developers have to sink a lot of money into 00:18:13.260 --> 00:18:20.220 - fully-baked plans on the front end for projects that may or may not get approval. Only outfits 00:18:20.220 --> 00:18:25.660 - with very deep pockets can afford to pay to play, many of whom are from out of town. Those 00:18:25.660 --> 00:18:32.700 - costs add up on the project total and the overall price, and that's what we're feeling. 00:18:32.700 --> 00:18:38.020 - Our permitting process may take more than six months, and if it does take more than 00:18:38.020 --> 00:18:45.120 - six months, developers lose their financing. More time means more carrying costs. More 00:18:45.120 --> 00:18:52.290 - carrying costs means inflated end price. Projects have to pencil out. So we have a lot of 00:18:52.290 --> 00:18:52.860 - challenges 00:18:52.860 --> 00:18:58.900 - right now, but this administration is working very hard to address these challenges. We've 00:18:58.900 --> 00:19:10.740 - been focusing a lot on housing policy and the UDO, and we've been focusing a lot on 00:19:10.740 --> 00:19:19.460 - our policy. Housing policy must be comprehensive and cohesive. We need to make it easier to 00:19:19.460 --> 00:19:25.900 - build more types of housing in more places, for more people, without compromising unique 00:19:25.900 --> 00:19:31.620 - neighborhood character. We want a UDO that supports a thriving diverse housing market, 00:19:31.620 --> 00:19:38.500 - not one that inadvertently makes it affordability harder to reach. We're currently performing 00:19:38.500 --> 00:19:45.180 - an analysis of our permitting process to identify obstacles to faster and more efficient approvals, 00:19:45.180 --> 00:19:52.140 - and we're evaluating the UDO. Hopewell is the former hospital site, is one of the few 00:19:52.140 --> 00:19:57.820 - areas within city limits that could potentially put a dent in our housing needs. We currently 00:19:57.820 --> 00:20:04.060 - have a project going with the Housing Authority, who's working on an adaptive reuse of the 00:20:04.060 --> 00:20:10.940 - former, the original hospital site, the core building. It's a limestone facing Rogers, 00:20:10.940 --> 00:20:16.060 - limestone building facing Rogers. If you've driven by lately, you'd see the construction 00:20:16.060 --> 00:20:23.460 - ongoing. But Hopewell is also an interesting case study, where the city is now a passenger 00:20:23.460 --> 00:20:29.440 - to what developers go through as they try to navigate our own red tape. Our community 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:34.500 - has been incredibly vocal. Residents have asked for real options for first time home 00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:41.860 - buyers, working families, long term neighbors, not just more of the same. In June, the Redevelopment 00:20:41.860 --> 00:20:49.620 - Commission took a new approach that uses pre-approved home designs on platted lots to save time 00:20:49.620 --> 00:20:55.860 - and money, welcome local builders to the table, and supports a healthy mix of attainable and 00:20:55.860 --> 00:21:01.660 - market rate homes. This course correction reflects a more realistic community centered 00:21:01.660 --> 00:21:07.300 - strategy that gets us where we want to go. This new path is geared towards providing 00:21:07.300 --> 00:21:12.380 - a diverse mix of housing types at a range of price points, creating options for first 00:21:12.380 --> 00:21:17.940 - time home buyers, the local workforce, and families, not just luxury apartments or student 00:21:17.940 --> 00:21:25.220 - rentals. This pilot will demonstrate innovative solutions. We are also piloting an interest 00:21:25.220 --> 00:21:31.900 - rate buy down program to help incentivize folks to unlock those golden handcuffs and 00:21:31.900 --> 00:21:39.480 - climb up or down in that housing ladder, influencing the overall market. Our community needs attainable 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:48.860 - housing for the residents that work here. This administration is prioritizing just that. 00:21:48.860 --> 00:22:00.940 - All right. So if you will, Paige is over here, Lucas is here, they have empty note cards. 00:22:00.940 --> 00:22:05.700 - They will just raise your hand and they'll grab them from you, give you new note cards. 00:22:05.700 --> 00:22:12.220 - While they're doing that, I'm going to talk for a minute about economic development. Thanks, 00:22:12.220 --> 00:22:19.700 - Paige. Housing really is the backbone of economic development in any community. If you can't 00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:27.620 - house the people who work here, they're not going to come to work. When we look at affordability, 00:22:27.620 --> 00:22:32.140 - of course, the cost of the housing is one part of affordability, but how much you make 00:22:32.140 --> 00:22:38.180 - is the other part of affordability. My administration on the other side of this is also looking 00:22:38.180 --> 00:22:50.740 - at how do we grow wages in Monroe County. We are working with several partners on that 00:22:50.740 --> 00:23:00.060 - wage growth and the 21st century economic development really surrounds innovation and 00:23:00.060 --> 00:23:01.980 - entrepreneurship. 00:23:01.980 --> 00:23:07.060 - What's happening in the trades district and at the mill is critically important to the 00:23:07.060 --> 00:23:15.100 - future of our wages here in Bloomington and Monroe County. As we grow those companies 00:23:15.100 --> 00:23:23.140 - through the trades district, we hope to be able to house many of those folks not only 00:23:23.140 --> 00:23:33.260 - at Hopewell, but in the upcoming summit development as well. We hope that the new UDO, whatever 00:23:33.260 --> 00:23:39.420 - changes are made to the existing UDO is how I should say it, will help facilitate great 00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:47.380 - housing. That's housing that really works for Bloomington and keeps Bloomington's character 00:23:47.380 --> 00:23:54.820 - and the cohesion of neighborhoods alive. You'll be seeing some branding coming out in the 00:23:54.820 --> 00:24:03.220 - next four months or so that will really speak to who Bloomington is and who we want to attract 00:24:03.220 --> 00:24:07.940 - after we've been working with a group called Civic Brand to help tell that story and we've 00:24:07.940 --> 00:24:16.140 - had lots of stakeholder involvement on that. We're also just incredibly excited about the 00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:25.040 - new convention center. That is rolling along quite nicely and we hope to get the hotel 00:24:25.040 --> 00:24:35.940 - rolling around along just as nicely. Now we have so many questions, I'm going to be quiet. 00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:46.660 - Let's see. I think this is a comment, not a question, but you can ... There's a comment 00:24:46.660 --> 00:24:52.540 - that CDFI-friendly Bloomington can help finance housing and hope well. True, there are many 00:24:52.540 --> 00:25:02.700 - possibilities to add to the original capital stack or to the mortgage possibilities there. 00:25:02.700 --> 00:25:10.660 - We do plan to have a larger conversation with lenders about providing mortgages at hope 00:25:10.660 --> 00:25:17.340 - well. CDFI-friendly, of course, we are incredibly lucky to have them here in Bloomington and 00:25:17.340 --> 00:25:35.140 - know that we will engage them for those conversations. This is another comment maybe. Lack of input 00:25:35.140 --> 00:25:40.720 - from real estate professionals in planning and zoning considerations and their actions 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:45.840 - which ignore the realities and vacancies in the new apartments and building more and more 00:25:45.840 --> 00:25:54.100 - apartments geared to students. We actually have had quite a bit of input from realtors 00:25:54.100 --> 00:26:01.320 - and we will continue to have stakeholder involvement as we get input on what might go into any 00:26:01.320 --> 00:26:11.000 - UDO changes and we don't have a great way of actually tracking vacancies in Bloomington 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:17.880 - and those apartments. There is some indication that some of the newer student apartments 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:29.880 - have vacancies and that's why my administration's priority is to create new housing that really 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:45.440 - targets people who are working here rather than that student population. Occupancy rates 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:51.880 - are really challenging to track because apartment complexes or property managers have to self 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:58.100 - report. So there's a number of platforms that actually are tracking but it's limited 00:26:58.100 --> 00:27:06.960 - data and it is self reported. I actually took an intern team last year and we did some secret 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:16.560 - shopping of all multifamily complexes that were over 50 units. Of that study, we were 00:27:16.560 --> 00:27:25.920 - around 98% occupied. However, I will say that I do believe that that rate has dropped significantly 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:34.800 - since that time. What I've been hearing pretty consistently that there are vacancies in properties 00:27:34.800 --> 00:27:40.680 - that had never had vacancies previously. So we are starting to see that occupancy rate 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:48.520 - drop. I will tell you that HUD calls a healthy rental rate 60% occupied. So we know that 00:27:48.520 --> 00:27:53.880 - we're higher than that at this time. I know it's misleading. You see some of these buildings, 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:59.560 - you think that they're probably not occupied. But look, we have an undergraduate admission 00:27:59.560 --> 00:28:07.280 - rate of 48,000 students on campus at IU. They only have about 13,000 beds on campus. So 00:28:07.280 --> 00:28:13.120 - there is demand for some of these apartment complexes. But again, it is really difficult 00:28:13.120 --> 00:28:17.080 - to try and track. It is something that we're kind of keeping our eye on the ball, both 00:28:17.080 --> 00:28:22.360 - with the platforms and the data that is available and then trying to privately track what's 00:28:22.360 --> 00:28:32.280 - going on. Okay, this question is what happened with Crawford and Union? And I'm assuming this 00:28:32.280 --> 00:28:43.600 - means Union at Crescent. But I can update you on what happened with Crawford. Crawford 00:28:43.600 --> 00:28:54.780 - was well out of rental code compliance. We worked with them really over years to try 00:28:54.780 --> 00:29:03.560 - to get that back into compliance. My history is with a housing organization. I was committed 00:29:03.560 --> 00:29:11.280 - to building decent housing so people who lived there could actually get on their feet and 00:29:11.280 --> 00:29:18.200 - really thrive. When you are living in an apartment that is not safe, there is no possibility 00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:25.240 - that you can do much more than just trying to meet your basic human needs. So we are 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:30.520 - very serious about our housing compliance. And these are not the only two properties 00:29:30.520 --> 00:29:38.360 - that we have taken action on this year. We also took action on a number of other properties 00:29:38.360 --> 00:29:49.640 - which have also been in the press. The Crawford is a permanent supportive housing unit. And 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:58.040 - in order to really take people who are in highest need and offer them housing, they also 00:29:58.040 --> 00:30:07.840 - need a lot of support or the housing won't be maintained. The housing was not maintained. 00:30:07.840 --> 00:30:14.580 - The support was not adequate. We talked and talked and talked and made agreements that 00:30:14.580 --> 00:30:23.800 - were not met. And so ultimately we did file suit because we believe it is not safe for 00:30:23.800 --> 00:30:33.040 - people to be living in those kinds of units. I am pleased to say we have gotten a long, 00:30:33.040 --> 00:30:42.200 - long way with the physical state of that property. We are very nearly in physical compliance 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:50.680 - and we just need to get the supportive services operational as well. So that's where we are 00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:57.920 - with Crawford. Union at Crescent has been a different kind, it's a different kind of 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:03.920 - housing development, a different process. We are equally serious about getting that into 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:13.640 - compliance and because of a couple of various things that have been out of our control, 00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:18.120 - there's been delays. So we're not as far down the road. 00:31:18.120 --> 00:31:25.200 - Yeah, I can comment a little bit. I think you've covered Crawford, but Union at Crescent, 00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:31.240 - their rental permit expired earlier this year and they did schedule an inspection with our 00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:36.280 - department which is we inspect and permit all the rentals within the city of Bloomington 00:31:36.280 --> 00:31:43.320 - limits. We did perform an inspection, however, they had a deadline of I believe September 00:31:43.320 --> 00:31:51.320 - 5th to make all of the necessary repairs. Unfortunately, they were unable to make those. 00:31:51.320 --> 00:31:56.800 - The owners do have a right to file an appeal if they're not able to get material in on 00:31:56.800 --> 00:32:01.640 - time or their circumstances outside of their control or they don't agree with what our 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:07.320 - reports say or requests. So they did file an appeal with the building housing quality 00:32:07.320 --> 00:32:14.600 - appeals board. Unfortunately, when that was set to be heard, I believe the middle of September, 00:32:14.600 --> 00:32:20.960 - the board did not have quorum. So it has been continued to this month that board only meets 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:27.080 - once a month. And so they have until the middle of October where the board will either vote 00:32:27.080 --> 00:32:32.800 - to approve their appeal or extension of time or not. So that's where we are at this point 00:32:32.800 --> 00:32:41.480 - with that particular property. They had a tax abatement on the property. We did indicate 00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:46.880 - that they were not in compliance with that tax abatement because of the number of vacancies 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:53.160 - in the property. There were some 60s, some vacancies. And it is an affordable project 00:32:53.160 --> 00:33:01.280 - which requires a certain level of occupancy. The City Council did find that the property 00:33:01.280 --> 00:33:06.920 - owner was not in compliance but due to circumstances outside of their control. So they were able 00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:18.520 - to keep that tax abatement at this time. Okay. I applaud the City effort toward preapproved 00:33:18.520 --> 00:33:29.080 - housing plans. I also applaud this effort. It is -- I really think it's going to make 00:33:29.080 --> 00:33:38.640 - an incredible difference not only at Hopewell but these plans will be approved for expedited 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:46.320 - permit approval throughout the city once we get through them. So it's a big deal. And 00:33:46.320 --> 00:33:53.840 - we have a first draft of some of those plans. Not final at all. But they're gorgeous. And 00:33:53.840 --> 00:34:04.680 - they range in size and also therefore in cost from truly affordable to build without government 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:13.440 - subsidy. And if you have not experienced the process of government subsidy, not only is 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:23.120 - it slow but it also can sometimes make things more expensive. And what we want is housing 00:34:23.120 --> 00:34:30.160 - product that people can actually afford to build conventionally. So these plans I'm really 00:34:30.160 --> 00:34:36.800 - excited about because of the variety of them, because of the look of them and because they're 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:45.080 - really created for Bloomington to fit our community. It goes on to say have you considered 00:34:45.080 --> 00:34:52.440 - an RFP for 10 to 12 modular homes in Hopewell? At this point we are only working on Hopewell 00:34:52.440 --> 00:35:02.640 - South. That's where we're digging into the detailed plans. And that's the area that is 00:35:02.640 --> 00:35:09.760 - directly adjacent to McDowell Gardens. And so we really want that area of the neighborhood 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:19.800 - to sort of talk to McDowell and be a good transition from McDowell into Hopewell. We 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:25.120 - may look at things like modulars for other parts. And for those of you who are not in 00:35:25.120 --> 00:35:31.240 - the building industry right now, modulars are great looking houses these days. And there 00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:36.560 - are various kinds of modulars and they're well built. It's just that they get built 00:35:36.560 --> 00:35:42.280 - in a factory and brought to you. So it's not the modular that you're thinking of that was 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:53.960 - created in the 80s and 90s. So I will tell you, when I started as mayor, I did not know 00:35:53.960 --> 00:36:01.840 - how to make Hopewell work financially for the people to live there or for the city to 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:08.840 - finish it. And at one point I was the largest private home developer in the county for nine 00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:15.080 - years running when I was with Habitat for Humanity. And so I have a good deal of experience 00:36:15.080 --> 00:36:23.120 - making the finances of affordable housing work and Hopewell was a puzzle. We have gotten 00:36:23.120 --> 00:36:32.040 - to a place that is not only hopeful, but it's really exciting. And I think Hopewell can 00:36:32.040 --> 00:36:39.160 - really set the tone of what attainable housing can look like throughout the city and it can 00:36:39.160 --> 00:36:44.000 - really be inviting to the young professionals we're trying to attract and keep here. You 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:50.480 - know, MCCSC is losing school population. We need those young professionals here in our 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:56.760 - community. We love retirees and we need to keep great schools if we're going to keep 00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:04.480 - our economy going. So we're looking at all kinds of things for next phases of Hopewell 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:10.800 - with the standard of it has to be excellent. And it's really going to be the crown jewel 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:17.600 - of our downtown housing. And so it's walkable. It's got this awesome park. It's right next 00:37:17.600 --> 00:37:24.040 - to Kroger. It's right next to two other parks. It's really going to change the tone and it's 00:37:24.040 --> 00:37:30.040 - going to create really linkage to the rest of that economic development that's sort of 00:37:30.040 --> 00:37:38.240 - coming down college and Walnut with the convention center going in. This goes on to say, I disagree 00:37:38.240 --> 00:37:44.680 - with Heading Home's decision to serve those from outside our region. I'll make a note 00:37:44.680 --> 00:37:56.040 - about that. I have been very public in my comments about our lack of ability to keep 00:37:56.040 --> 00:38:04.480 - our heads above water if we're going to continue communicating to the world, really, that Bloomington 00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:13.400 - is a place that has adequate services for everyone. My mind was shifted deeply when 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:19.760 - I sat at a listening session at New Hope for Families and had a mom tell me she moved to 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:25.520 - Bloomington because she was told there were services here, but we only have enough services 00:38:25.520 --> 00:38:33.760 - to keep everybody homeless. That's not where we want to be. We want to be the community 00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:41.280 - that gets our head far enough above water that for those people in our region, we actually 00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:50.280 - know how to serve them so well that they can thrive and that they get into permanent housing, 00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:54.760 - whether it's permanent supportive housing or permanent independent living. And so that's 00:38:54.760 --> 00:39:07.000 - my goal. And every area of our entire state is broken down into a HUD region. So if every 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:14.160 - community would commit to just serving people from their region and they would do that well, 00:39:14.160 --> 00:39:20.680 - we could be in a very different place in our state. So I have convened the mayors of Indiana 00:39:20.680 --> 00:39:29.200 - in a roundtable on homelessness. We're working together proactively on plans for what best 00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:37.000 - practices we can share, how we can agree to work together and importantly making sure that 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:44.400 - people in our region know how to get services in the region. So nobody should have to travel 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:54.360 - 200 miles to find a homeless shelter. They want a lot closer. So thank you for that comment. 00:39:54.360 --> 00:40:04.440 - This one is written just to make Anna Killian Hansen blush. You're welcome. Recently Ms. 00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:10.360 - Killian Hansen was quoted in the HT is saying more or less that the administration is focused 00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.960 - on streamlining the development process and not getting in our own way. I wanted to say 00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:26.120 - thank you for that comment and attitude because it is very positive. One of the things we 00:40:26.120 --> 00:40:33.160 - are committed to in my administration is pulling back every piece of red tape we possibly can. 00:40:33.160 --> 00:40:41.760 - We want to make it really easy to build great things in Bloomington and hard to build junk. 00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:52.960 - So we are committed to this. It is more difficult to get the zoning process simplified than any 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.320 - of us could probably imagine even if you've been entrenched in it. But we're committed 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.440 - to that and we're also committed to finding other ways to pull back red tape and that's 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:08.420 - one of the reasons that I really love to just be out in public talking to people in these 00:41:08.420 --> 00:41:14.900 - forums and others because you all can tell me the areas that it's really hard to figure 00:41:14.900 --> 00:41:22.200 - out how to get the government to help. So that's why we're here. Thank you for your 00:41:22.200 --> 00:41:31.320 - comment, your positive comment. Anna, for those of you who don't know her whole history, 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:40.080 - she was raised in the housing industry and she comes from generations of builders and 00:41:40.080 --> 00:41:45.500 - we are so, so fortunate to have her expertise leading our housing at the city. So thank 00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:52.760 - you for your service, Anna. Okay, I'm running out of questions. So if you have more, wave 00:41:52.760 --> 00:42:01.480 - your hands and we'll come get them from you. College mall is losing tenants. Lots of parking 00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:06.560 - is there, which is made of impermeable materials, which is bad for the environment. College 00:42:06.560 --> 00:42:12.860 - mall is privately owned, but what would the city like to see happen to this property if 00:42:12.860 --> 00:42:21.820 - the city could influence college mall owners and decision makers? Well, I'll tell you, 00:42:21.820 --> 00:42:29.560 - one of my ultimate visions for Bloomington is that we stop thinking in this way of we 00:42:29.560 --> 00:42:37.940 - only have one downtown, because Bloomington has a city center, but then we have economic 00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:45.120 - centers, commercial centers, both east and west, and we have a good little pod developing 00:42:45.120 --> 00:42:54.560 - south and even some new interest north. And that's the way, as we grow population, grow 00:42:54.560 --> 00:43:01.080 - wages, we really need to think of ourselves that way, that you can go to many different 00:43:01.080 --> 00:43:07.800 - places and have a great experience in Bloomington, dining or shopping or going to a hardware 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:14.240 - store, et cetera. So my ultimate vision for college mall would be that it becomes vibrant 00:43:14.240 --> 00:43:23.720 - again, that that piece of real estate becomes vibrant again. I think we know that for many, 00:43:23.720 --> 00:43:30.060 - a traditional mall is no longer how people want to spend their time. And so we've seen 00:43:30.060 --> 00:43:37.900 - lots of great redevelopment of mall properties in many different ways throughout the country. 00:43:37.900 --> 00:43:45.720 - And so ultimately, if we could activate that area, I think we'd have a lot more vibrancy 00:43:45.720 --> 00:43:56.040 - throughout that east side. And I will say that I think the stores that are facing outward, 00:43:56.040 --> 00:44:03.640 - that little section that faces College Mall Road at the intersection of 3rd and College 00:44:03.640 --> 00:44:11.680 - Mall, that does pretty well. So that should tell us something. But we've seen malls get 00:44:11.680 --> 00:44:20.720 - redeveloped into housing, get redeveloped into mixed use, and really thrive. And so we have 00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:27.360 - a real opportunity there should the owners of College Mall want to do something really 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:39.280 - fun in Bloomington, which we would love it if they did. More questions? We got one more. 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:44.160 - We never keep you past an hour either. I always promise to end so that you don't feel obligated 00:44:44.160 --> 00:45:11.920 - to sit here. This may need to be answered by Anna. And sometimes what we say is we're 00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:20.080 - going to have to check and get back to you. So I'm going to read the question, but I'm 00:45:20.080 --> 00:45:27.640 - not sure that I'm aware of the answer. We do house the Historic Preservation Commission. 00:45:27.640 --> 00:45:31.960 - We are the liaisons to that commission. But I'm not sure that I know the answer to this 00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:37.920 - or that this has come up. What has happened to the historic restrictions that said the 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:44.880 - streetscape of East 10th between Washington and Dunn should remain as it was. However, 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:52.600 - lots of homes have been demolished. I'm not sure. I'd need to check. We have 13 historic 00:45:52.600 --> 00:45:59.000 - districts within the city of Bloomington limits. Each district has their own restrictions on 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:04.720 - what they can and cannot do. And those are written by the neighborhoods in which they 00:46:04.720 --> 00:46:12.000 - reside. But I am not aware of which district that is off the top of my head. We have quite 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:17.840 - a few. So I'd be more than happy to get back to you. My card is actually out on the table. 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.360 - So if you want to let me know who you are, how to reach you, I can absolutely get back 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:28.280 - to you with that answer. And if you're not aware, it says -- so one of the things it 00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:33.440 - does say is lots of homes have been demolished. So we actually -- if it is in a historic district, 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:38.900 - we have something called the demolition delay process. So it has to go before the historic 00:46:38.900 --> 00:46:45.920 - preservation commission if it is a notable or outstanding structure. The HPC as we call 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:53.560 - it has to either designate it as historic or release it for demolition. So likely if something 00:46:53.560 --> 00:46:59.480 - has been demolished, it wasn't a notable or outstanding structure and the HPC voted to 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:06.600 - release it and not forward it on to City Council for nomination. 00:47:06.600 --> 00:47:10.900 - >> This question is would the administration consider out of the box thinking regarding 00:47:10.900 --> 00:47:18.720 - development standards? For example, if sidewalks and something else weren't always required, 00:47:18.720 --> 00:47:27.040 - then those costs wouldn't have to be passed on. That's just one example. There are many 00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:33.160 - of fast track approval processes and other. The City will absolutely consider out of the 00:47:33.160 --> 00:47:38.360 - box thinking. In fact, we're hoping that the input sessions come with some out of the box 00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:46.560 - thinking. Whenever we have a builder or a developer with a challenge to how things are 00:47:46.560 --> 00:47:52.840 - working now, we are sitting down with them and trying to figure out how we could have 00:47:52.840 --> 00:48:02.600 - done it better. How we can stay committed to having great building form and make things 00:48:02.600 --> 00:48:11.360 - easier. We will be creating, we won't call it a fast track probably, but we'll have expedited 00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:18.960 - permitting for certain cases where essentially you're going to meet all of the codes and 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:26.800 - you don't need any variances. Right now things sort of get stuck in the queue no matter when 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:36.480 - they come in. And when I used to pull permits, we could get a permit in two weeks. That will 00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:45.480 - not happen today. I want to get back to a similar timeline for the no variance, really 00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:54.400 - clear this is going to meet all of the requirements. I'm going to put a plug in for tech week which 00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:03.200 - is the first week of November. They're going to have a GovTech day. We are looking at things 00:49:03.200 --> 00:49:12.480 - like AI to help us read through our UDO and find complications in it. There are many ways 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:21.880 - that we can innovate around simplifying the process. And that's what we seek to do. Is 00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:31.840 - to, again, make it easy to build great things and hard to build bad things. And so we're 00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:39.440 - open to ideas and anything's fair game for discussion. Sometimes there are surprising 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:46.920 - reasons that we can't say yes. But we -- I think we have a team that's committed to trying 00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:53.040 - to get to yes whenever we can. Sometimes it's a yes and. 00:49:53.040 --> 00:49:58.780 - >> You know, the other thing too I have to say is that this administration, Carrie's been 00:49:58.780 --> 00:50:02.560 - in development and construction. I've been in development and construction. So we see 00:50:02.560 --> 00:50:09.040 - it through a little bit of a different lens. We really are trying to make this what it 00:50:09.040 --> 00:50:20.120 - needs to be for our community to thrive. >> If there aren't any other questions, I don't 00:50:20.120 --> 00:50:26.400 - know if you're invited to participate in basketball practice or not. But we thought it would be 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:37.520 - kind of fun. I'll just note that we have some fun things coming up, including trick or treating 00:50:37.520 --> 00:50:48.500 - downtown. There are many live music events and arts events happening. And of course this 00:50:48.500 --> 00:50:55.800 - is the final month for summer farmers market. And then of course we'll have winter farmers 00:50:55.800 --> 00:51:02.720 - market again this year. So lots to do in Bloomington. I know we have a couple football weekends 00:51:02.720 --> 00:51:18.360 - left. And those have been exciting for Bloomington. >> Do you have other things to add? >> If you 00:51:18.360 --> 00:51:25.080 - know any new renters, we actually have an R101 or how to be a good runner in Bloomington 00:51:25.080 --> 00:51:29.960 - class coming up in a couple of months. There are some flyers out on the table. If you want 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:35.680 - to register, there's a QR code. But we go over everything from financial management 00:51:35.680 --> 00:51:43.320 - to housekeeping items. Know your rights and responsibilities of both tenant and landlord. 00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:49.640 - And then navigating just Bloomington, our sanitation process, our rental code, everything. 00:51:49.640 --> 00:51:56.160 - So it's a great class. We also give you discounts or we get you discounts through some property 00:51:56.160 --> 00:52:03.000 - management companies. And then also, if you know any new homebuyers, we do have a down 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:07.320 - payment and closing cost assistance program. So feel free to reach out to us. It is income 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:15.360 - eligible, but it can provide up to $50,000 in down payment and closing costs for homebuyers. 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:22.480 - We also have rental assistance, so deposit assistance as well that is income eligible. 00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:28.800 - So Hand has a number of programs to help residents through all of their housing needs. Just feel 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:34.640 - free to give us a call. We also have a housing counselor on staff if you ever need foreclosure 00:52:34.640 --> 00:52:40.480 - avoidance or bankruptcy counseling, anything like that, we're here to help. So please let 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.240 - us know how we can do it. 00:52:43.240 --> 00:52:52.640 - I'm going to put a plug in for the Hopewell session, which is October 20th. We'll be going 00:52:52.640 --> 00:53:02.320 - over a preview of what we're looking at for Hopewell. That's October 20th at 3.30 p.m. 00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:09.560 - You can find more information on the website, and all are welcome, but we're really excited 00:53:09.560 --> 00:53:15.680 - about what's happening at Hopewell. If you want more information, I just want to say Randy 00:53:15.680 --> 00:53:21.000 - Cassidy is a member of our redevelopment commission. He's here tonight and has been heavily 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:21.680 - invested 00:53:21.680 --> 00:53:29.800 - in Hopewell for years, as well as other projects. You heard that we didn't have quorum at an 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:33.680 - important public meeting. If you're a resident of the city of Bloomington and you want to 00:53:33.680 --> 00:53:40.480 - serve one of these boards, we would welcome your application to any of the vacancies. 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:46.320 - I'm going to give you six minutes of your life back. I'll hang out to answer some additional 00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:52.140 - questions that you may not have wanted to ask publicly, and thank you all so much for 00:53:52.140 --> 00:54:01.920 - coming tonight. I see some of our neighborhood leaders here. I see some rental property owners 00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:08.000 - and others that are invested in housing. Really appreciate you coming to be with us tonight 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:12.000 - and investing in your community. Thank you so much. 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.500 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:54:45.500 --> 00:54:49.000 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.500 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:54:52.500 --> 00:54:56.000 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.500 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:54:59.500 --> 00:55:03.000 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:06.500 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:55:06.500 --> 00:55:10.000 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:13.500 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:55:13.500 --> 00:55:17.000 - (upbeat orchestral music) 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.580 - (upbeat music)