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- Welcome to our October town hall in district five. Council member Daley is on her way and is excited

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- to join this town hall. I'll sort of walk through the map of how we do these town halls. And the first

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- thing you need to know is that this is participatory and I'm sorry for the setup being way up on the stage.

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- We try to have these be very conversational, especially when we have an intimate group like this. So

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- I will be inviting you to offer questions, comments, et cetera. I usually start with a big picture of

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- what's going on in the city and what we're doing lately.

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- That is not meant to guide or put parameters on what we're talking about tonight. That's just what's

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- top of mind for me. And Councilmember Daley will do the same thing. So you'll hear from her and then

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- we'll take questions and you're welcome to ask about things that we have talked about, more detail that you want.

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- or just things you're curious about or things you don't like that we're doing or things that you love

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- that we're doing. We love hearing that too. Shockingly, it's always good to know if we're on the right

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- track every once in a while. So welcome. I want to first note that you all have

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- crossed a major banner moment in civic engagement just by showing up to a town hall. It's more than

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- many people do and whether you're here to be informed or to participate and help us do government better,

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- thank you for being here. The next great thing you can do to participate in your community is to vote.

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- Voting starts tomorrow. Early voting is at our

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- at our vote center, which is not the name of it. It's called Election Central, actually. We would love

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- to have a vote center here, but we don't have one. Election Central is at the north end of the Showers

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- building. So you walk all the way. If you're parking on the street, you're going to walk north of where

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- City Hall is, but it looks like and is the same building, just a different entrance. And you go into

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- the very northern entrance there.

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- That starts tomorrow and will be available mostly every Monday through Saturday until actual election

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- day, with some exception for holidays. Let me offer some good news first. One thing that I am incredibly

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- proud of, because our team has been working really hard on it, is that we were just named a best place

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- to work in Bloomington.

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- I'm really proud of that we have. When I, when I started I knew we could not be a great city government

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- if we were not a great place to work. And so achieving that milestone.

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- was a really big deal and it took a lot of us pulling in the same direction. So my gratitude to council

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- for approving the salary ordinance changes that we had proposed and some other HR policies and also

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- to our whole team for really pulling to be a great place to work. It's a significant milestone for us. We are,

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- Parks and Recreation is planning its investment priorities right now. And I want to make you aware of

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- that because the comments, we're taking comments on that through October 18th. And this is all based

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- on the master planning that we did just last year. The master plan tells us where we would like to go.

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- The investment plan tells us what we're actually going to spend money on.

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- And so it's really important. We, of course, have award-winning parks. We also are facing major budget

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- cuts with SEA 1. There is, thanks to the Lilly Endowment, a significant parks grant coming out, $400

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- million available throughout the state. So we'll be applying for some of that funding with this and

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- then also prioritizing the

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- the other capital investments that we'd like to do. Another piece of good news, we submitted and were

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- approved for three different opportunity zones here in Bloomington. Those are going to happen in Trades

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- District West, the Hopewell area, and Seminary Park. You may say,

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- What is an opportunity zone and why should I care? This is a way that investors can essentially get

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- more bang for their buck in an opportunity zone. So we don't put any money into the opportunity zone

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- as the city, but we also don't lose any tax revenue. So the incentives that are received by the investors

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- are solely based on

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- forgiveness of capital gains tax. So anyone at all could invest in an opportunity zone. And if you have

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- capital, I would encourage you to do that. To receive capital gains benefits, you have to be in a qualified

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- opportunity fund. And those funds can be local or national. So you could get together with other investors.

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- Jane Coopersmith, our Director of Economic and Sustainable Development was supposed to be here tonight

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- and she couldn't make it, but she has much more information about those opportunity zones and she would

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- be a great person to get in touch with. The important thing to know is these are areas that are right

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- now in low census tracts, so low-income census tracts, and we're targeting investment in those zones to really

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- help bring those neighborhoods into some vitality. Also, another great piece of news is that our utility

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- just received a $2.3 million EPA grant that is aimed at the very things, alleviating the very things

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- that cause things like the boil water

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- order that we just had a week and a half ago. So I want you to remember if you haven't already signed

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- up for CBU contacts and alerts, that is the way that you will get these alerts straight to your phone.

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- If you don't have a CBU bill coming straight to your name or to your address, you can still get our

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- alerts. So if you rent and the water meter is in somebody else's name,

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- you can still get our alerts. You also want to sign up for the Monroe County alert system,

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- which is separate, and we can connect you with both of those things. The last piece of good news that

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- I'm going to share, although there's many other good pieces of news, is that to date we have filled

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- over 9,500 potholes this season. So the asphalt plant is probably going to close before too long. That

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- is more potholes than we have filled in a very long time, and we are really excited with that progress.

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- We know potholes seem like a small deal, but they're actually a really big deal. When they don't get

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- fixed, everybody is mad. So we're working hard to be a city where you don't even notice your streets.

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- You just drive on them happily. Budget. If you're tracking city council, you may know that we are in

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- the middle of our budget hearings.

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- We will be back on Wednesday night for what could be the final budget hearing, may not be. The council

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- and the administration are working hard to make some difficult decisions. The council has suggested

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- many cuts to the budget and we are

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- listening and we are working on some practical solutions to get to a place where we have a budget that

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- actually works for the city and where all of the needs are getting met and all of the priorities that

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- we can address get addressed well. So welcome Council Member Daley. You don't have to run. I'm still

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- just blabbering on. Your turn is next. Relax, it's okay.

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- You didn't have to listen to all the stuff you already know about. So that's right, that's right. Ladies

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- and gentlemen, council member Daley has arrived and she'll update. I already told them that you had

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- important things to do and you were on your way. So we have, in that budget, we have some proposed funding

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- for studies of immediate planning priorities.

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- And some of those are on the docket for possibly being cut from the council budget. The important thing

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- to know about these studies is that, and I am one to say, I don't want any studies that sit on a shelf.

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- I only wanna study if we're gonna do something. These studies are necessary in order for us to even

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- plan, even to apply for federal funding. And so the process, and I know it seems a little

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- antiquated to say the least, is that we have to make a plan to figure out how much something is going

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- to cost and how we might fund it. And then we can apply for the federal dollars. And when those federal

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- dollars come available, you have to already have the plan in your hand. And so those plans include the

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- Kirkwood corridor, which was a hot topic at council this year,

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- Without a plan and without a good implementation process, we need to be sure that everybody can get

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- where they're going when they need to get there and closing a street like Kirkwood without a plan to

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- really make sure businesses can thrive and emergency services can get through and everybody else who

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- wants to get there can.

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- does not make a lot of practical sense. So we do need that Kirkwood area plan and the downtown plan

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- in order to get that through. We also have a couple of safe routes to school on the agenda for those

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- plans this year. So important stuff. I'm going to just sort of zip through some other things just in

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- the interest of time. We have some state and federal grants that

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- are going to routinely require those studies, and we simply cannot apply for them, nor can we be competitive

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- without those plans being done. I want to talk for a minute about a new initiative that you may or may

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- not have heard about called Streets to Stability, and this is part of our work with Heading Home on

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- addressing unsheltered homelessness.

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- we are working zone by zone in the downtown with caseworkers to identify a by name list of people who

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- are sleeping outside routinely in those zones. As they're identified, caseworkers begin to work with

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- them and identify housing that will meet their needs. Then the target is within a month's time, we house

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- those people.

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- To date, I don't actually know if heading home is publicizing numbers yet, so I'm not gonna share those

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- numbers here because it's very public, but there has been a significant success very quickly, and one

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- of those zones is now closed to sleeping. There are a couple of people from that zone that were very

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- complex cases, so they have multiple needs to be addressed.

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- Those two are still not housed, but everybody else is housed. And those two are actively working with

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- caseworkers. We are working through the rest of downtown and will complete the main downtown Kirkwood

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- area by the end of the year. And so we were really excited about that. Heading home has been great with

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- the structure and

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- and the case workers and then the city is doing a lot of cleanup. We are doing backup outreach and then

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- we have a lot of folks letting people know that the area is now closed for sleeping but there are other

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- places to go and then connecting them to resources. So really proud of that work and really hoping that

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- we are gonna make a significant impact in

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- unsheltered homelessness this year. Let's see, we are also related, you may not be seeing a direct impact

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- of the streets to stability work yet because the city is really absorbing the influx of the closure

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- of the power line encampments. There were a significant number of people who were living there.

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- And when the county closed that, there was not a timetable of significant outreach and case management

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- that went into the power lines. And so it was a disruption of a large number of people, many of them

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- very complex cases. We are grateful to the county for closing the encampment. Thank you, President Crossley.

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- And because it had become very unsafe and unsafe for people living there and unsafe for people living

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- around the area. And we have seen the disruption that's caused when you unhoused or

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- when you disrupt an encampment that is so large all at once without the outreach and case management

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- needed. So we are still working with those folks. They are moving around, mostly moving around the city

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- right now. So we're trying in partnership with Heading Home and others to get them the resources that

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- they need. And speaking of resources,

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- We have completed a permitting audit. If we want to have great housing, we need to be really cognizant

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- of how much it costs to get to the point that you could pull a permit. And right now it costs too much

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- partially because we have a lot of red tape and a lot of uncertainty in our zoning process. So we did

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- a permitting audit and we are

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- our team is already really removing a lot of obstacles to getting those permits. So we're doing the

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- administrative work. Council, in the meantime, are passing UDO changes in partnership with the Plan

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- Commission. And so together, this is an effort to make our planning very transparent, very clear, and

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- hopefully much more predictable.

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- So nobody's planning a development or even a house before they know whether or not it can pass our code.

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- So I'm really proud of that work and I hope it's going to make housing a little more attainable and

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- housing production more predictable in town. A quick update on Hopewell, the 724,

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- 714, I always get the numbers mixed up. 714 South Rogers, our old convalescent center, if you're old

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- like me and have been here a while. The old brutalist building, we have our eyes on that for our new

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- police headquarters. And we're moving forward with the due diligence on that. I'll be at

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- the McDowell Gardens neighborhood meeting tomorrow to talk to them about those plans and other plans

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- in Hopewell. But the plan is to renovate part of that building and likely to build on an addition to

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- that building to relocate dispatch there. We don't have any category three buildings in Bloomington

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- right now. And that is a building that is, sorry,

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- the city of Bloomington doesn't own any. And that is a building that is rated for a significant seismic

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- event, a significant tornado, et cetera. And it really is best practice to have dispatch and emergency

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- operations center in a category three building. And so we, because we don't have anything with

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- the appropriate foundation structure yet, we'll be building an addition onto 714.

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- to house that part of our operations so that no matter the natural disaster, we still can have emergency

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- operations up and running. We have also gotten into the final stages of the Hopewell Neighborhood Plan.

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- This is just the first phase, Hopewell South,

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- That will have 98 homes they are compact lots, very modest sized houses all the way up to 2800 square

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- foot house. And we also have some multifamily homes going in there, all targeted at owner occupancy

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- so condo model, etc.

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- And then we have the core building, which is being operated by Bloomington Housing Authority. And so

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- that is soon to open. And so we're really proud of that work, proud of the partnership with city council

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- to get that finalized, almost finalized and moving forward. And I am going to stop talking and let council

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- member Daley give any updates or things she's thinking about before we take questions.

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- Here we go, I got it. Oh, hey, thanks. Thank you very much. I didn't prepare anything. I didn't think

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- ahead about what I was going to talk about, but thank you for that comprehensive update. It's always

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- good to hear about that. It's exciting that we finally have Hopewell moving forward. Right now, super

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- focused on just trying to get through budget season. Tomorrow night is gonna, no, not tomorrow night.

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- Wednesday night, it's gonna be a long night going over the budget. There are a lot of amendments that

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- have been brought forward, so we're gonna be

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- Spending a lot of time talking about those. I want to be really mindful as we're going through each

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- of them. I don't want to cut just for the sake of cutting, but I also want to make sure that we are

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- doing our best to try to be as fiscally responsible and reasonable as possible. We had a work session

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- last Wednesday night to go over a lot of those amendments that were brought forward, and it was incredibly

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- helpful for me to hear

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- why my colleagues were thinking the way that they were and to hear the arguments back and forth. How

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- I work really well is having those conversations and those debates live and in person together. So I

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- loved that work session. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out Wednesday night. So hopefully we

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- can put the budget to bed soon and move ahead after that. I'm working on a piece of legislation right

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- now. I guess I can share.

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- All of you, I've been getting a lot of outreach about those motorized bikes that are almost like motorcycles.

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- They're not actually motorcycles, but they're not just your standard low-speed e-bike. Many of you have

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- maybe noticed it, maybe you've even reached out to me to complain about them on the paths, the trails,

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- the walking paths, just going really, really fast. So I'm working on a piece of legislation right now

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- that will hopefully help

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- maybe calm some of that and address that. We're being really, really mindful about how we're wording

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- it and putting it together so that we can try to get it passed. We're looking at a lot of other, because

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- this is a new issue too, right? These are new devices and we're trying to even just figure out how to

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- define them and then how we can actually regulate them in a way that will be effective. Not as easy

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- as you might think.

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- We've involved legal, we're involving engineering, we're involving many, many different teams looking

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- at that. We were hoping to have it on the docket or on the calendar for this fall. It doesn't look like

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- we're gonna have that opportunity because we do need to take it to the Transportation Commission first.

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- That will hopefully happen this month. We're thinking maybe early next year we'll be able to get it

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- on the calendar. So if you have any feedback on that or thoughts,

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- You know, if you have had experiences too that you wanna share about that, please by all means, feel

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- free to reach out, let me know. But after that, otherwise what I'm just really gonna be focused on for

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- the next little while is really just supporting the boards and commissions. You know, we do have liaisons,

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- you know, the city council liaisons to certain boards and commissions.

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- So my intent in the new year is to really focus on how I can best support a lot of the boards

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- and commissions, looking at those, seeing where are we lacking representation, what areas might benefit

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- from having a little bit more of a say or advisory role within our community. So that's going to be

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- where I'm heading in the new year, I think, unless somebody drops a really big idea in my lap. But that's

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- it for me. I don't have much in the way of updates

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- Mayor Thompson is a much busier and more important person than I am. I just hold down the fort as best

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- I can. All right, so let's take some questions. I just wanna thank you for picking up the complicated

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- legislation on these high-speed e-bikes. It's a complicated potential ordinance to pass because obviously

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- we don't want police chasing kids on bikes.

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- kids who may be unpredictable in their choices. It creates a dangerous situation for everyone. And we

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- also need to recognize that these e-bikes are also causing dangerous situations. So we're cognizant

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- of the many challenges of writing that legislation and appreciate your leadership on it.

00:24:05.090 --> 00:24:12.911
- So we'll take questions, some sort of agreements that we ask for during the question time or comment

00:24:12.911 --> 00:24:21.042
- time. You can just be aware that there are a lot of people here, not 600, but there are plenty of people

00:24:21.042 --> 00:24:27.934
- here who may want an opportunity to have a question addressed or want to make a comment.

00:24:28.066 --> 00:24:37.060
- So we don't limit your time at the mic. But if you can be concise, especially if you're asking a question,

00:24:37.060 --> 00:24:45.550
- so that we can give the information that you want, that would be helpful. And Jennifer, did you pass

00:24:45.550 --> 00:24:54.124
- out any note cards? OK. If anybody is more comfortable submitting a note card rather than speaking at

00:24:54.124 --> 00:24:57.822
- a mic, we bring them. So you can just flag.

00:24:57.954 --> 00:25:03.917
- Jennifer down and she'll hand you one. But I think we have few enough people here that we have time

00:25:03.917 --> 00:25:09.999
- for people to stand up and ask their questions. So how about if I ask Jennifer to person this mic and

00:25:09.999 --> 00:25:16.081
- we'll share this one. You do need to speak into the mic even if you have a loud voice because Katz is

00:25:16.081 --> 00:25:21.150
- recording and the people at home won't be able to hear you if you don't use the mic.

00:25:28.610 --> 00:25:37.064
- Okay, I got a couple things, but I'll just ask one to start with. Yeah, I can't get my phone back on.

00:25:37.064 --> 00:25:45.849
- Okay, what's the status of the bridge replacement repair at Lower Cascades Park? I haven't heard anything

00:25:45.849 --> 00:25:54.635
- about that one for quite a while. So, and I forgot to ask you all to introduce yourself before you speak,

00:25:54.635 --> 00:25:57.950
- if you're willing. Can I? Steve Lehman.

00:25:58.658 --> 00:26:06.160
- Thanks, Steve Lehman. So the status of the bridge at Cascades Park, I actually need to check on that.

00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:13.809
- I'm not totally sure what the status is. The city's not responsible for that bridge. The responsibility

00:26:13.809 --> 00:26:21.238
- has been taken, and I know there are plans happening for repairing that bridge, but I don't know the

00:26:21.238 --> 00:26:28.446
- status of it right now, but we are happy to get back to you about that, Steve. Thanks for asking.

00:26:28.546 --> 00:26:39.618
- Thank you. Yeah. There's one back here, Jennifer. Hi, this Dave Burnworth. Did I understand you right

00:26:39.618 --> 00:26:50.907
- to say the unhoused population would probably decrease in concept at least? The unsheltered population,

00:26:50.907 --> 00:26:57.854
- yes. That's what we're shooting for. We could reasonably expect

00:26:59.042 --> 00:27:08.818
- less visitors to Seminary Park? So the park is a public park. And so we actually love visitors in Seminary

00:27:08.818 --> 00:27:18.138
- Park. And anybody has the right to be in Seminary Park. I think what you're alluding to is maybe some

00:27:18.138 --> 00:27:26.270
- behaviors that you're seeing in Seminary Park that don't feel welcoming to other people.

00:27:26.530 --> 00:27:38.409
- And so a couple of pieces on that. First, I just wanna share that we do know that not everybody in Seminary

00:27:38.409 --> 00:27:49.628
- Park is unhoused, first of all. And the police have been working really hard to work on any predatory

00:27:49.628 --> 00:27:55.678
- behavior that's happening, especially there right now.

00:27:55.842 --> 00:28:04.443
- And so they've made a couple of very significant drug busts lately. And they did that about a little

00:28:04.443 --> 00:28:13.129
- over a year ago and we saw behaviors in the park really improve at that point. And it was really time

00:28:13.129 --> 00:28:22.071
- that we do that as well. My goal as mayor is to make Bloomington unwelcoming to anybody who's a predator

00:28:22.071 --> 00:28:23.774
- and get people help

00:28:23.938 --> 00:28:32.919
- if they have substance use disorder or another mental health disorder. So that's what we're working

00:28:32.919 --> 00:28:41.901
- on. That's the approach we're working with. And we do have outreach workers that go out to Seminary

00:28:41.901 --> 00:28:51.870
- Park and elsewhere. And honestly, we do want every park to be welcoming to everyone. You are welcomed, if you,

00:28:52.162 --> 00:28:59.637
- would like to follow up with me and have a more private conversation, I would welcome that, yeah. Hi,

00:28:59.637 --> 00:29:07.259
- my name is Rowan Morse. I'm a lifelong Bloomingtonian. In the past, your administration has stated that

00:29:07.259 --> 00:29:14.587
- you are interested in finding a new ALPR vendor for the city after one of the city's four contracts

00:29:14.587 --> 00:29:20.670
- lapsed this year. On October 14th, the city council is voting on ordinance 2026-22

00:29:21.026 --> 00:29:29.402
- banning all ALPR technology like Flock and Axon. Are you in opposition to this ordinance and will you

00:29:29.402 --> 00:29:37.779
- veto it if it is passed? So the question about ALPRs is that we don't plan to replace ALPRs. Security

00:29:37.779 --> 00:29:46.320
- cameras are another issue altogether. So we're asking for those things to be separated and to have some

00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:50.590
- more careful thought put into the security cameras.

00:29:56.578 --> 00:30:06.912
- Hi, Norm Crampton. I'm here with Mary Alice. We live near the traffic circle at Serre and High. And

00:30:06.912 --> 00:30:17.555
- I've noticed the recent posting of something like recognition of commercial service. Could you explain

00:30:17.555 --> 00:30:25.822
- what that's about? Sorry, the Serre and High intersect. Sorry, Rogers and High.

00:30:26.018 --> 00:30:34.037
- By the park. Rogers and High, okay. Yes, and there's recognition of commercial service. Do they tend

00:30:34.037 --> 00:30:42.293
- to the middle of that roundabout? Is that? Yeah, we don't know why commercial is being recognized there

00:30:42.293 --> 00:30:47.454
- for something. I see. Jennifer is going to answer your question.

00:30:48.674 --> 00:30:56.292
- Actually, there was another constituent that asked about this because they were concerned about the

00:30:56.292 --> 00:31:04.063
- state of the care of those roundabouts throughout the city. Some of them belong to Public Works, some

00:31:04.063 --> 00:31:11.834
- of them belong to the Parks Department. Traditionally, a business has adopted those to maintain them,

00:31:11.834 --> 00:31:18.462
- but that kind of care was maybe a little inconsistent. They have revamped that program

00:31:18.594 --> 00:31:27.846
- So now a business can adopt one of those roundabouts and instead of actually physically maintaining

00:31:27.846 --> 00:31:37.098
- them, they are funding the maintenance of that roundabout. So we're hoping for some more consistent

00:31:37.098 --> 00:31:44.222
- care. So Norm, was your question about why that advertising is there or just

00:31:48.482 --> 00:31:57.491
- I see. I see, okay, great. I'm Mary Alice Crampton, and thank you for your service, both of you, for

00:31:57.491 --> 00:32:06.500
- the community. My question is, at least three years, when I go down Sarah Road, every time I have to

00:32:06.500 --> 00:32:15.777
- go to the grocery store, et cetera, on that side, the roundabout has a place where somebody has knocked

00:32:15.777 --> 00:32:17.918
- into the middle section

00:32:18.306 --> 00:32:27.057
- and has made a mess. And it's been there for at least three years. And I find it very embarrassing because

00:32:27.057 --> 00:32:35.481
- people come off Tap Road and they come into the city to go to the basketball games, the football games

00:32:35.481 --> 00:32:43.742
- and whatnot. And they see it looks run down. And I don't know why it hasn't been replaced and fixed.

00:32:44.898 --> 00:32:53.928
- Thank you for letting me know about that. I will look at it on my way home tonight. We don't want a

00:32:53.928 --> 00:33:03.500
- city that looks rundown. Yeah. Thank you for your service, Mayor and Mr. Councilman. I've been a resident

00:33:03.500 --> 00:33:13.072
- of Bloomington for over 26 years, and I also lived in four other countries and three cities in the United

00:33:13.072 --> 00:33:14.878
- States like Boston,

00:33:15.394 --> 00:33:23.323
- Erie, Pennsylvania, and in Hackettstown, New Jersey. And then I moved here after that. So my question

00:33:23.323 --> 00:33:31.096
- is, in the last few years, we have gotten a lot of panhandlers at every corner. And recently, I had

00:33:31.096 --> 00:33:39.646
- my son's wedding here. And a lot of people had come from international, like Australia, and Europe, and Asia.

00:33:40.418 --> 00:33:46.584
- And I was showing them around in Bloomington. And every corner, there is somebody asking for some money

00:33:46.584 --> 00:33:52.632
- standing there. So it was embarrassing because they considered me as an American. And they said, hey,

00:33:52.632 --> 00:33:58.739
- what happened to your American? Why are there so many people asking for money? It's like it's becoming

00:33:58.739 --> 00:34:04.727
- a bigger country or what? I had told them that Bloomington is the best place in the United States in

00:34:04.727 --> 00:34:09.470
- terms of living conditions. And there are very little crime and no panhandlers.

00:34:10.018 --> 00:34:17.727
- but I was proven wrong. So that's number one comment. Second comment that you talk about is the high-speed

00:34:17.727 --> 00:34:25.292
- e-bikes. It is very dangerous. I have seen three accidents on the trail. I walk every day on the Jackson

00:34:25.292 --> 00:34:32.858
- Creek Trail. And actually, one guy was so hurt so badly because these kids that are going in at 30 miles

00:34:32.858 --> 00:34:39.486
- per hour sometimes. And they wish past you. And if you are just slightly in the wrong lane,

00:34:39.778 --> 00:34:46.243
- They're coming from behind. You don't know whether they're going to go right or left. And when they

00:34:46.243 --> 00:34:52.902
- hit you, it's going to be a lot of casualties. So that's a good initiative that you guys have. So I'll

00:34:52.902 --> 00:34:59.626
- address the panhandling question, and then I'm going to let Councilwoman Daley talk about her expertise

00:34:59.626 --> 00:35:04.798
- and e-bikes. And I have one more very important issue that I came here for. OK.

00:35:05.506 --> 00:35:12.645
- The issue is that there is a, I live right behind the Brookdale nursing home. Sorry, the hotel. Brookdale

00:35:12.645 --> 00:35:19.448
- nursing home. It's been going on for three years. The bamboo plantation has been growing in the back

00:35:19.448 --> 00:35:26.520
- of the Brookdale nursing home. I live right behind it. Me and other three neighbors are affected because

00:35:26.520 --> 00:35:33.592
- the bamboo, once it starts growing, you can't stop it. Because it becomes very hard. And a bamboo that's

00:35:33.592 --> 00:35:35.006
- half inch or thicker

00:35:35.650 --> 00:35:43.391
- is difficult to cut. I will tell you, I have tried it and it takes almost, it's impossible to cut with

00:35:43.391 --> 00:35:51.358
- handsaw. So I know what is the reason the bamboos have started coming in because it's an invasive species

00:35:51.358 --> 00:35:59.100
- for the United States. And I can tell you the reason, but I don't want to bring it up here. I actually

00:35:59.100 --> 00:36:04.286
- know what the prime cause is. But I had gone to the hand department.

00:36:04.482 --> 00:36:11.261
- H-A-N-D department. And for three years, I've been telling them to get rid of this somehow, because

00:36:11.261 --> 00:36:18.108
- I don't know, nobody has a solution to that. And I came to bring this issue up because I had written

00:36:18.108 --> 00:36:25.090
- to the mayor last year, but the mayor said that we don't have enough resources. So the honorable mayor

00:36:25.090 --> 00:36:32.005
- is again requested to take some action because three, four of my neighbors are also affected by this,

00:36:32.005 --> 00:36:33.022
- and they said,

00:36:33.250 --> 00:36:39.674
- They wanted to come, but they couldn't come. So they said, you are going to be our mouthpiece, and please

00:36:39.674 --> 00:36:46.219
- have mayor commit to getting rid of these bamboos. And OK, by the way, I met also the Brookdale management.

00:36:46.219 --> 00:36:52.522
- The management changed in the last, I think, to one year or so. Before, it used to be Brookdale nursing

00:36:52.522 --> 00:36:58.583
- home. And the Brookdale nursing home, people came, and they saw, and they said, OK, we are going to

00:36:58.583 --> 00:37:01.310
- clean it up, because it's on their property.

00:37:01.986 --> 00:37:08.048
- So they are going to clean it up. There was a lady by the name of Chloe Parr, and she came in. She said,

00:37:08.048 --> 00:37:14.053
- we are sorry that this is going on here. We are going to clean it up for you. But in the last one year,

00:37:14.053 --> 00:37:20.172
- that management has been sold to study else, and the nursing home is no longer Brookdale. It is something

00:37:20.172 --> 00:37:26.119
- else. Yes. OK, I'm going to take bamboo and handlers, and you'll take e-bikes, unless you want bamboo.

00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:27.678
- I don't know anything. OK.

00:37:28.482 --> 00:37:37.557
- So the council passed an ordinance against several species of invasive bamboo several years ago. So

00:37:37.557 --> 00:37:46.633
- there is an ordinance against it. And we can notify people that they need to remove it. But there's

00:37:46.633 --> 00:37:55.799
- actually, we just don't have enough inspectors or enough enforcement bandwidth to do everything that

00:37:55.799 --> 00:37:57.886
- we need to do in hand.

00:37:57.986 --> 00:38:08.158
- And so hand is enforcing life safety issues, sort of top priority. And frankly, even the fines that

00:38:08.158 --> 00:38:18.431
- we might be able to impose on people for these kinds of invasive species are minimal compared to the

00:38:18.431 --> 00:38:25.246
- cost of eradicating them, as you know, because it's troubling you.

00:38:25.346 --> 00:38:32.397
- I am happy to come out and talk to the management along with the neighbors and see if we can come up

00:38:32.397 --> 00:38:39.588
- with a solution that actually works because we do have an ordinance against it. But unfortunately, and

00:38:39.588 --> 00:38:46.570
- this is an important thing to sort of keep in mind as we're going through budget season, if I could

00:38:46.570 --> 00:38:53.831
- hire five more inspectors and compliance officers for hand, I would. They are busy, they're overworked,

00:38:53.831 --> 00:38:54.878
- they're doing,

00:38:54.978 --> 00:39:03.442
- a great job with what they can handle, but these are the very things that we just, they were unable

00:39:03.442 --> 00:39:12.413
- to actually enforce regularly. It is a significant financial burden to eradicate bamboo like that because

00:39:12.413 --> 00:39:21.046
- it has to be completely dug up and the root systems have to be totally removed. So I know quite a bit

00:39:21.046 --> 00:39:22.654
- about this bamboo.

00:39:22.978 --> 00:39:31.441
- not your bamboo in particular, but if it would be helpful, I'm happy to help facilitate a meeting and

00:39:31.441 --> 00:39:40.319
- see if we can come to some agreement. On panhandling, we do not have a city ordinance against panhandling.

00:39:40.319 --> 00:39:48.616
- The council took it up a number of years ago and decided not to do anything. The administration did

00:39:48.616 --> 00:39:50.110
- have signs posted

00:39:50.818 --> 00:39:59.563
- essentially encouraging people to give to the organizations that serve people instead of giving directly

00:39:59.563 --> 00:40:07.974
- to people. Those signs were taken down, not by the administration. They were just removed. So we put

00:40:07.974 --> 00:40:16.303
- them up higher, but they were completely unnoticeable. So without an ordinance against panhandling,

00:40:16.303 --> 00:40:18.718
- there's really not much that

00:40:19.138 --> 00:40:27.863
- we can do as a government. You can talk to your city council about putting an ordinance together. But

00:40:27.863 --> 00:40:36.417
- my encouragement to people is obviously do what you're called to do, but it does a lot more good to

00:40:36.417 --> 00:40:45.484
- give to organizations frequently that are helping people structurally and that provide wraparound support

00:40:45.484 --> 00:40:48.478
- services and can really help them.

00:40:48.834 --> 00:40:57.003
- than to offer direct funding. That's my experience. It's what I've told my children ever since they

00:40:57.003 --> 00:41:05.743
- were little and said, should we give them some money? And I consistently say, we give to the organizations

00:41:05.743 --> 00:41:13.504
- that help people. And so, whatever you're called to do, but that's the only way I know to sort

00:41:13.504 --> 00:41:18.078
- of structurally address this because people have needs.

00:41:22.210 --> 00:41:29.245
- Just piggybacking, piggybacking? Yeah, that's the word. Right off of what Mayor Thompson was saying.

00:41:29.245 --> 00:41:36.349
- I know it's really, really difficult to see members of our community out there on the corners who are

00:41:36.349 --> 00:41:43.314
- clearly in need and looking for anything that we can give them. It is something that I think breaks

00:41:43.314 --> 00:41:50.558
- all of our hearts and we don't want to see. It's difficult. I think you're right. I think we are seeing

00:41:50.558 --> 00:41:51.742
- more these days.

00:41:52.482 --> 00:42:00.452
- The economy being in the state that it's in is probably not helping. I mean, I see just even in my day

00:42:00.452 --> 00:42:08.576
- job, the effects of a poor economy coming into student supplying to IU and how it's impacting everybody.

00:42:08.576 --> 00:42:16.391
- But hopefully now, maybe with our new shelter program through heading home, I always want to call it

00:42:16.391 --> 00:42:19.486
- something else, so I just have to stop.

00:42:19.874 --> 00:42:26.121
- Hopefully that can help and make a big difference in what we're seeing on our streets. And then we can

00:42:26.121 --> 00:42:32.430
- turn our attention to supporting the shelters and the other outreach organizations is my hope. So thank

00:42:32.430 --> 00:42:38.616
- you for bringing that up. And then in terms of the motorbikes, the e-motos is what we're referring to

00:42:38.616 --> 00:42:40.254
- them as in this ordinance.

00:42:40.386 --> 00:42:46.834
- Yes, it is scary when we see them on the trails and when we're walking. I go down and I walk by Sherwood

00:42:46.834 --> 00:42:53.037
- Oaks Park and in between to Olcott and around there, and I've encountered several of them myself. It

00:42:53.037 --> 00:42:59.240
- is frightening when you hear them coming up behind you. You don't know which way to jump. You think,

00:42:59.240 --> 00:43:05.504
- do I have to jump? That's actually something that we do address in the ordinance is the behavior that

00:43:05.504 --> 00:43:06.302
- we expect on

00:43:06.786 --> 00:43:13.349
- bicycles, scooters, motorized vehicles, and we define them. Again, the enforcement is going to be difficult

00:43:13.349 --> 00:43:19.670
- because Mayor Thompson is right. You know, Chief DeKoff has said, we're not gonna have officers chasing

00:43:19.670 --> 00:43:25.807
- these kids down because that will end in disaster. That is then when they will get a little bit more

00:43:25.807 --> 00:43:32.067
- reckless, they'll get scared, they'll try to run, and that's when they will hit somebody or crash into

00:43:32.067 --> 00:43:35.774
- something. So we are considering the deterrent alternatives.

00:43:36.066 --> 00:43:43.834
- How can we figure out maybe who's riding these bikes if we're not able to catch them right there in

00:43:43.834 --> 00:43:51.835
- that moment and give them the reprimand or the fine. But there will be a fine system and a possibility

00:43:51.835 --> 00:43:59.681
- of repossession of the bike. So hopefully then the parents will be hearing about this. And hopefully

00:43:59.681 --> 00:44:05.662
- then they will be much more inclined to enforce the good behavior from their

00:44:06.242 --> 00:44:11.661
- miners who are pretty much the ones who are doing most of the reckless behavior on these bikes. And

00:44:11.661 --> 00:44:17.134
- I do just want to also make one quick note, too, in terms of this ordinance working on it. I've said

00:44:17.134 --> 00:44:22.715
- we've consulted with a lot of different departments within the city. I want to give a huge, huge shout

00:44:22.715 --> 00:44:28.242
- out to Director Tim Street from the Parks Department and Julius Mitchell from the legal team. The two

00:44:28.242 --> 00:44:33.932
- of them have been the real powerhouse in putting this together for us. In fact, it was Director Street's

00:44:33.932 --> 00:44:35.070
- idea. He came to me.

00:44:35.426 --> 00:44:42.947
- last spring and said he's been getting a lot more complaints about this and would I be interested in

00:44:42.947 --> 00:44:50.394
- helping to do something as his city council representative. So I've been delighted to work with the

00:44:50.394 --> 00:44:58.064
- two of them because they have really done the bulk of this. So I want them to get all the applause and

00:44:58.064 --> 00:45:04.542
- the credit for putting it together. But he's legal, what's his legislative seat, okay.

00:45:05.442 --> 00:45:13.135
- I got the title wrong. He's the legislative assistant, right? Thank you. It always makes me think legal.

00:45:13.135 --> 00:45:20.608
- Hello. Hi. Thank you. Just waiting. Thank you both for taking questions. It's really appreciated. I'm

00:45:20.608 --> 00:45:28.008
- really excited to hear that you are aligned, it sounds like, with the council in regards to FLOC and

00:45:28.008 --> 00:45:32.990
- the upcoming vote on Wednesday. I just had a quick question for you

00:45:33.282 --> 00:45:39.044
- about what happened at the county level. My understanding is the county decided to remove the cameras

00:45:39.044 --> 00:45:44.749
- despite there being a fine associated with that. I think it was a pretty moderate fine. And then you

00:45:44.749 --> 00:45:50.737
- said that the contracts were not gonna be renewed or they were not renewed. I think one just was canceled

00:45:50.737 --> 00:45:56.556
- a couple of weeks ago. But the camera on my block is still up. And so I was just wondering if you were

00:45:56.556 --> 00:46:00.510
- committed to removing them despite a potential fine just so we can be

00:46:00.802 --> 00:46:09.778
- done with that in light of the vote on Wednesday. And also if you had a commitment to not picking up

00:46:09.778 --> 00:46:19.110
- any new vendors that are out there and are probably going to replace Flock as that company kind of takes

00:46:19.110 --> 00:46:25.598
- a nosedive. Thank you. So you have an ALPR on your block? Is it an ALPR?

00:46:35.362 --> 00:46:43.592
- On Kirkwood, okay. So those are not ALPRs, and the ALPR contract expired and we did not renew it. And

00:46:43.592 --> 00:46:51.741
- we have security cameras, so I don't know if you were here when I answered the last question, but we

00:46:51.741 --> 00:47:00.052
- are not supportive of taking all the security cameras down, but they will not be FLOC. So we are still

00:47:00.052 --> 00:47:05.054
- talking to council members about that, but I'm not supportive

00:47:05.186 --> 00:47:22.445
- of that part of the legislation. They are, but we're not gonna renew those contracts. Yeah. That's correct.

00:47:22.445 --> 00:47:34.270
- We have made very good use of those cameras in solving two shootings now.

00:47:34.434 --> 00:47:46.149
- they are a safety risk to remove those. Other questions? Just to clarify, those Condor cameras do use

00:47:46.149 --> 00:47:57.749
- the same ALPR technology. They are built into the surveillance cameras. That contract for those four

00:47:57.749 --> 00:48:03.262
- Condor cameras was over, I think, two weeks ago

00:48:03.586 --> 00:48:10.776
- by the time that based off of the two year contract, I think it was September 25th of 2024. So it should

00:48:10.776 --> 00:48:17.828
- be over by now. And I was wondering if your office has taken any steps to make sure that those cameras

00:48:17.828 --> 00:48:24.813
- actually do get taken down in a timely manner. And then also there are still two other contracts that

00:48:24.813 --> 00:48:31.934
- have not been canceled. They automatically renew. Those are for the trailers, which use both the Condor

00:48:32.322 --> 00:48:43.045
- and the ALPR Falcon cameras. I think there are two each, or two trailers that have Falcon cameras and

00:48:43.045 --> 00:48:53.873
- two trailers that have the Condor surveillance. All of this has AI technology built into it. And I was

00:48:53.873 --> 00:49:01.022
- wondering if you have put in the word with Flock, with the company,

00:49:01.186 --> 00:49:06.488
- as required by the contract to actually make sure that these contracts get canceled. The due date to

00:49:06.488 --> 00:49:11.842
- do that was two months ago. Yeah, so we have a little misinformation here, so I'm just gonna clarify.

00:49:11.842 --> 00:49:17.197
- This is from information that you personally sent me, actually. Yeah. If I can clarify. Yeah. I mean,

00:49:17.197 --> 00:49:22.813
- you just interrupted me before I finished my sentence. I'm sorry. Why don't you finish what you're saying,

00:49:22.813 --> 00:49:28.063
- and then Jennifer can take the mic. Yeah. There were two different contracts to make sure that they

00:49:28.063 --> 00:49:30.110
- weren't gonna be automatically renewed

00:49:30.402 --> 00:49:37.473
- to cancel them, you had to get in contact with the company multiple months ago. I think a couple of

00:49:37.473 --> 00:49:44.614
- people have asked you at this point if that has been done, and nobody's really gotten a clear answer

00:49:44.614 --> 00:49:51.897
- on that. Let me provide a clear answer. And we have in the past, just to clarify, we have communicated

00:49:51.897 --> 00:49:59.038
- with Flock that we are not renewing any contracts with them. So when these expire, they are expired.

00:49:59.554 --> 00:50:13.370
- We have done that in writing within the timeframe that we committed to. That was done in the spring.

00:50:13.370 --> 00:50:27.870
- That was done a long time ago. We have not changed our position at all on it. Hi, I'll try to be somewhat

00:50:28.130 --> 00:50:34.404
- concise on this. My question is about the high-speed fiber network. I know that there are details that

00:50:34.404 --> 00:50:40.679
- are outside of people's control, but about four years ago when that was announced, I was very excited,

00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:47.014
- both for the better service that it would provide, but also because I don't love supporting either AT&T

00:50:47.014 --> 00:50:53.289
- or Comcast as companies. In at least three of the years since then, whether it was someone in the city

00:50:53.289 --> 00:50:56.030
- or someone with Gigabit Now that I spoke to,

00:50:56.162 --> 00:51:03.516
- told me that their expectation was I would have it by the end of the year. That hasn't happened in any

00:51:03.516 --> 00:51:10.726
- of those years. I guess I'm just looking for a commitment to the project because at the moment, if I

00:51:10.726 --> 00:51:18.151
- knew it was going to take a long time, I could do a multi-year agreement with Xfinity and save 30 bucks

00:51:18.151 --> 00:51:23.934
- a month. But if I keep going month by month waiting for it to happen any moment,

00:51:24.034 --> 00:51:32.286
- There's actually a big financial loss on my part as well. Mostly I want to know that we're still trying

00:51:32.286 --> 00:51:40.538
- to go full speed ahead with this and if there's any updates of any kind about potential timelines. Yes.

00:51:40.538 --> 00:51:48.552
- I am so sorry. That has been a train wreck of a project and we are committed to following through on

00:51:48.552 --> 00:51:51.646
- it. I did issue a stop work order last

00:51:52.162 --> 00:52:01.692
- bring though because the subcontractor on that project was causing so much property damage that they

00:52:01.692 --> 00:52:11.222
- were not repairing, including hitting a gas line under a major street. It was a huge safety issue. I

00:52:11.222 --> 00:52:21.790
- did put a stop work order on it. That's on me. We couldn't have that contractor working in Bloomington anymore.

00:52:22.178 --> 00:52:31.578
- numerous properties that a sewer line would get cut. They didn't report it to the property owner when

00:52:31.578 --> 00:52:40.886
- they did it, and the sewage was just going in the, I mean, it was just a disaster. So I'm very sorry

00:52:40.886 --> 00:52:50.654
- that this has caused you not to be able to sign an appropriate contract. And the Meridian is committed to

00:52:51.106 --> 00:52:58.870
- They committed to coming through and making all of the repairs that needed to happen before they started

00:52:58.870 --> 00:53:06.338
- any new work, and that has happened now. We are now moving forward. It did take them some time to do

00:53:06.338 --> 00:53:14.323
- that. We could have pulled the plug on the whole thing. I have been supportive. The quality of the service,

00:53:14.323 --> 00:53:20.830
- the speed of the connection, and the accessibility to all neighborhoods in Bloomington,

00:53:20.994 --> 00:53:28.636
- is really important, as we all know. So we're moving forward. That's the commitment I can make. In terms

00:53:28.636 --> 00:53:36.132
- of timeline, I would need to know your address and then get in touch with Rick Dietz, our IT director,

00:53:36.132 --> 00:53:43.555
- who knows which neighborhoods are going when, and then we can give you a better timeline on that. But

00:53:43.555 --> 00:53:48.286
- that's what I can tell you. We're working towards it, and sorry.

00:53:53.154 --> 00:54:02.485
- Yes, and I lost my watch this weekend. It's getting close. You mentioned 714 South Rogers earlier. Yes.

00:54:02.485 --> 00:54:11.815
- One question I have, which I think is a great place to move the police station to, and the neighborhood

00:54:11.815 --> 00:54:19.262
- does too. I've been to their meetings, but was that part of the hospital purchase?

00:54:19.490 --> 00:54:26.770
- for the city, so the city does own it at this point, and it was part of that? Yes. Same as the core

00:54:26.770 --> 00:54:34.049
- building, right? Yes. Okay. What is the plan for the core building? You mentioned that one earlier,

00:54:34.049 --> 00:54:41.329
- too. Yeah, the core building is all low-income apartments. It's beautiful. They had an open house a

00:54:41.329 --> 00:54:49.118
- couple months ago. Excuse me. Bloomington Housing Authority owns it, so we'll be doing the rentals through

00:54:49.538 --> 00:54:59.570
- through BHA and those top floor apartments have some of the best view in the city. It's like a remarkable

00:54:59.570 --> 00:55:09.603
- building. So we're really proud of that partnership and that project and it has had, as with any historic

00:55:09.603 --> 00:55:18.878
- building renovation, it's had its share of hiccups, but they're close to finishing and moving in.

00:55:20.738 --> 00:55:29.869
- And one comment on some of the things that were said earlier about e-bikes. It's not kids necessarily.

00:55:29.869 --> 00:55:39.000
- I ride on the trail south of town on my non-electric bicycle. And here a week or so ago, literally six

00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:47.864
- people came flying up behind me all over the trail, flew by. I know there's speed limits are marked

00:55:47.864 --> 00:55:49.726
- on that trail. Okay.

00:55:50.114 --> 00:55:59.262
- And they were not kids. They weren't teenagers. They were 50 and 60 years old. And when I got up to

00:55:59.262 --> 00:56:08.409
- the next parking lot, they're all sitting there smoking cigarettes. So I think it's kind of a weird

00:56:08.409 --> 00:56:18.014
- thing. Thank you for your comments, Steve. Everyone's got to have something to do. I'll be really quick.

00:56:18.274 --> 00:56:23.815
- So good evening Mayor Carey and Councilmember Daly. I'm Jennifer Crossley. I am a constituent

00:56:23.815 --> 00:56:29.945
- of Councilmember Daly and I also have the pleasure of serving in a different capacity as County Council

00:56:29.945 --> 00:56:36.016
- as well. And so one thing that I want to say is thank you very, very much because the Southside really

00:56:36.016 --> 00:56:42.087
- appreciates our street being paved. I know earlier in the summer it was getting, it looked like it was

00:56:42.087 --> 00:56:47.038
- getting done and then it didn't. And then a couple of weeks ago we just got it done

00:56:47.298 --> 00:56:53.985
- and it is shiny and it is so nice and potholes are clear. So I appreciate that because every year I

00:56:53.985 --> 00:57:00.671
- put in a new report to replace the potholes because of the inclement weather. So I just want to say

00:57:00.671 --> 00:57:07.693
- major kudos. I don't know if you want to talk about this or not, but oftentimes we talk about, you know,

00:57:07.693 --> 00:57:14.513
- what is the city and the county doing as a collaboration? And so you had spoken in light of SEA 1 and

00:57:14.513 --> 00:57:17.054
- we definitely are filling it as well.

00:57:17.218 --> 00:57:24.859
- and we just implemented something. So I don't know if either of you wanted to talk about and educate

00:57:24.859 --> 00:57:32.650
- the folks if they don't know already about the MUST Task Force. Yes, President Crossley, thank you for

00:57:32.650 --> 00:57:40.366
- that. I won't even begin to pretend that I remember what MUST stands for, municipal blah, blah, blah.

00:57:40.366 --> 00:57:46.494
- But the MUST Task Force is city, county, Ellitsville, there's representatives of

00:57:46.626 --> 00:57:56.600
- all of the fiscal bodies. And that is a necessary task force to address how we will address local income

00:57:56.600 --> 00:58:06.384
- tax in the future once the changes are made as a result of SEA 1. And the long and short of it is that

00:58:06.384 --> 00:58:14.078
- more of your money is going to the state. It was under the guise of property tax

00:58:14.786 --> 00:58:24.172
- rollbacks, but really very, very few people and very small results in terms of how much property tax

00:58:24.172 --> 00:58:33.744
- was saved. It's mostly a redirect to the state, which means your municipalities are getting less. They

00:58:33.744 --> 00:58:43.966
- also stepped in and started controlling what we could do with local income tax. Our county, city, Ellisville,

00:58:44.130 --> 00:58:51.948
- partnership is really our first must meeting went very, very well and I don't want to color the waters,

00:58:51.948 --> 00:58:59.766
- but I think that we all sort of agree based on the numbers. If we don't work on this together, not only

00:58:59.766 --> 00:59:05.630
- will you be paying more taxes, but each of the entities will be getting less.

00:59:06.210 --> 00:59:15.538
- If we do work on it together, in the end, most of the entities can be made whole as a result and the

00:59:15.538 --> 00:59:25.236
- various taxes don't have to go up so significantly. So I'm really proud of that collaboration. My thanks

00:59:25.236 --> 00:59:33.086
- to the county because the county really is in the control seat here and they've been

00:59:33.410 --> 00:59:40.542
- hugely collaborative and really appreciate them hosting that meeting and the first meeting went very,

00:59:40.542 --> 00:59:47.604
- very well. So if anybody tells you government officials can't collaborate, it's not true. We're also

00:59:47.604 --> 00:59:54.106
- collaborating on the Heading Homework. We did some great jail collaboration. There's lots of

00:59:54.106 --> 01:00:01.168
- great collaboration happening. So thank you for your work and for your openness to partner so we can

01:00:01.168 --> 01:00:02.846
- all do better together.

01:00:03.778 --> 01:00:11.601
- Are we about out of time? Okay, so we try to commit to also ending on time. I will be here. I have at

01:00:11.601 --> 01:00:19.653
- least one person to catch up with afterwards, so I don't know if you have a few. Okay, so Council Member

01:00:19.653 --> 01:00:28.090
- Daley will as well. Thank you, Council Member Daley, for showing up tonight and talking to your constituents,

01:00:28.090 --> 01:00:29.470
- our constituents.

01:00:29.666 --> 01:00:36.677
- Thank each of you for your involvement in government. You make us better. And we don't have to agree

01:00:36.677 --> 01:00:43.965
- on everything. You still make us better because you help us think and really appreciate this engagement.

01:00:43.965 --> 01:00:50.976
- And I hope that you will head to the polls. And if you don't know this already, as soon as you early

01:00:50.976 --> 01:00:58.334
- vote, you get taken off all the lists for door knocking and for phone calls and all of those other lists.

01:00:58.690 --> 01:01:04.315
- If you're tired of answering your door and your phone, go vote. Thank you very much for inviting me

01:01:04.315 --> 01:01:10.558
- and thank you all for being here and I'll stick around and answer any questions too. Always happy for a combo.
