WEBVTT 00:00:00.130 --> 00:00:05.728 - We're going to welcome everybody to the Redevelopment Commission meeting of September 2nd, 2025. 00:00:05.728 --> 00:00:12.133 - We will start the meeting with a roll call, please. C. Scandaluri, here. Randy Cassidy, here. John West, here. 00:00:12.133 --> 00:00:18.077 - Laurie McRobbie, here. Deborah Meyerson, here. Staff present, please. Anna Killian Hansen, Housing and 00:00:18.077 --> 00:00:23.617 - Neighborhood Development. Christina Findley, Hand Department. Roy Aten, Engineering Department. 00:00:23.617 --> 00:00:28.926 - Jane Cougarsmith, Economic and Sustainable Development. Jessica McClellan, City Controller. 00:00:29.346 --> 00:00:36.237 - Amy Caswell, Hand Department. Dana Kerr, Legal Department. Thank you, everybody. We will start with 00:00:36.237 --> 00:00:43.404 - our minutes. We've got minutes from Monday, August 18, 2025. Is the attachment of the RDC versus tenant 00:00:43.404 --> 00:00:50.227 - properties, is that also from August? That was from the previous meeting. OK. I mean, I knew that. 00:00:50.227 --> 00:00:57.187 - I appreciate that it's on there. I just wanted to make sure, in terms of what we're doing, that it's 00:00:57.187 --> 00:00:58.910 - the same set of minutes. 00:00:59.522 --> 00:01:06.441 - OK, well, any questions or comments on these minutes from August 18th or the attachment? If not, 00:01:06.441 --> 00:01:14.288 - I will invite a motion. Move approval of the minutes for August 18th. Second. We've got a first and a second. 00:01:14.288 --> 00:01:21.992 - We'll take a vote by roll call. C. Scambler, yes. Raney Cassidy, yes. John West, yes. Lauren McCrobby, yes. 00:01:21.992 --> 00:01:29.054 - Deborah Meyerson, yes. Motion passes unanimously. Next on our agenda, we've got a claims register. 00:01:29.506 --> 00:01:37.718 - for August 29, 2025. Any questions or comments from commissioners on this claim register? If not, 00:01:37.718 --> 00:01:46.182 - I will invite a motion. So I move approval of claims register for August 29, 2025. Second. We've got 00:01:46.182 --> 00:01:54.645 - a first and a second. We'll do a vote by our own call, please. C. Scambler, yes. Randy Cassidy, yes. 00:01:54.645 --> 00:01:57.662 - John West, yes. Lori McRobbie, yes. 00:01:57.858 --> 00:02:05.005 - Debra Meyer saying yes. Claims register passes unanimously. OK. Next on our agenda is the payroll register 00:02:05.005 --> 00:02:12.152 - for August 22nd, 2025. Any questions or comments from commissioners about this item on the agenda? If not, 00:02:12.152 --> 00:02:19.567 - I will invite a motion, please. Move for approval. Second. First and a second. I'll vote by roll call, please. 00:02:19.567 --> 00:02:26.246 - C. Scambler, yes. Randy Cassidy, yes. John West, yes. Warren McCraven, yes. Debra Meyer saying yes. 00:02:26.246 --> 00:02:27.582 - Passes unanimously. 00:02:28.290 --> 00:02:35.008 - um legal report well we're going to go to to reports from staff please so um uh from the hand director 00:02:35.008 --> 00:02:41.791 - please sure i don't have a formal report to this evening i will say that we have a lot of activity over 00:02:41.791 --> 00:02:48.313 - at the hope well site right now um not only do we have the jackson street sub going in we also have 00:02:48.313 --> 00:02:54.966 - the remediation underway which they're actually starting now which is great um they have also started 00:02:54.966 --> 00:02:57.118 - the remediation at the 714 south 00:02:57.282 --> 00:03:04.341 - Rogers Street building, it does look like there may be some additional work that may be coming to you 00:03:04.341 --> 00:03:11.400 - sooner than later, just due to the fact that the air handler was off for so long. So we will probably 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:18.459 - have to have another resolution for that. And then the core building did have a little bit of trouble 00:03:18.459 --> 00:03:25.726 - last week. They were installing a radon mitigation system, drilled through the slab and hit some sort of 00:03:26.274 --> 00:03:37.960 - Substance they're not sure what it was. They've taken a sample. It's been sent off I will keep you posted 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:49.426 - as soon as we hear anything Yes, we have discussed the Memorandum agreement with the American Red Cross 00:03:49.426 --> 00:03:54.718 - and they had wanted a few changes it was in the 00:03:55.042 --> 00:04:04.532 - section regarding the indemnifications and hold harness and the commercial insurance to more match up 00:04:04.532 --> 00:04:13.278 - with what they have in place. And it went through Corporation Council, and those changes were 00:04:13.634 --> 00:04:22.628 - all agreed to and so it's in your final form. You approved it under resolution 25-100. The resolution 00:04:22.628 --> 00:04:31.975 - itself does not change. It's only the attachment that changes. So you would simply need a vote to replace 00:04:31.975 --> 00:04:39.294 - the attachment on resolution 25-100 with the one that you have before you tonight. 00:04:44.002 --> 00:04:50.512 - Any questions or comments from commissioners about this updated resolution in terms of the attachment, per se? 00:04:50.512 --> 00:04:56.377 - Does this finish everything else where we can have a blood drive and we don't have any issues? Yes, 00:04:56.377 --> 00:05:02.300 - it does for the RDC. It still does need to go to the Board of Public Works for their side of things. 00:05:02.300 --> 00:05:08.224 - But as far as the RDC property is concerned. OK, so we'll be covered on this. And will this addendum 00:05:08.224 --> 00:05:13.150 - cover not just the Red Cross, but also other things, or specifically the Red Cross? 00:05:14.050 --> 00:05:20.746 - Yeah, it's just the Red Cross. OK. And then what we previously approved as far as setups and such, 00:05:20.746 --> 00:05:27.780 - it still has to be approved by Public Works before anyone can schedule it. It would need to be approved 00:05:27.780 --> 00:05:34.611 - by Public Works if it was going to be in a non-RVC property. And so they will take it to their board 00:05:34.611 --> 00:05:41.374 - in a week or so, I believe, and hopefully approve it through there so it'll be done with everybody. 00:05:42.050 --> 00:05:49.299 - For instance, they couldn't do one on the city side right now, but they could do one in Showers West 00:05:49.299 --> 00:05:56.405 - right now, if you adopt this. Thank you. That's lovely. OK. Well, thank you for that legal report. 00:05:56.405 --> 00:06:03.367 - Anything else from commissioners about this attachment before we move to our next on the agenda? 00:06:03.367 --> 00:06:11.262 - Do we have to approve or adopt? We do need to. Oh, we do need to. OK. I wasn't sure since it was. Yeah. Yeah. 00:06:11.682 --> 00:06:19.134 - exchange, replace the attachment one from resolution 25-100 to the MOU you have in front of you tonight. Okay. 00:06:19.134 --> 00:06:25.580 - I'm going to suggest, if you don't mind, that we just wait for the rest of our reports for now, 00:06:25.580 --> 00:06:32.159 - and then we'll go back to maybe, can we, even just at the end of the reports, under old business, 00:06:32.159 --> 00:06:38.873 - just to kind of keep it top of mind. Okay. So thank you. We'll just kind of pause that for a moment 00:06:38.873 --> 00:06:40.350 - and get back to that. 00:06:40.610 --> 00:06:47.547 - Do we have a treasurer's report tonight? No. No treasurer's report. OK. Business development update? 00:06:47.547 --> 00:06:54.553 - Not this evening. Thanks. OK. Well, our list went through really quick. And we are back to resolution 00:06:54.553 --> 00:07:01.558 - 25-100 with the newly revised attachment. We've had our questions and comments. I will open it up for 00:07:01.558 --> 00:07:09.182 - public comment. Anything online or in person? Seeing none, I will invite a motion for this. Move for approval. 00:07:09.570 --> 00:07:17.398 - First and a second, we'll do a roll call vote, please. C.S. Kimbler, yes. Randy Cassidy, yes. John West, yes. 00:07:17.398 --> 00:07:25.155 - Laurie McRobbie, yes. Deborah Minersing, yes. Passes unanimously. And that is the goal report for resolution 00:07:25.155 --> 00:07:32.271 - as added to resolution 25-100 for the attachment from the Red Cross MOU. OK. Well, we will now move 00:07:32.271 --> 00:07:37.822 - on to new business. And that starts with resolution 25-106, which is approval 00:07:37.922 --> 00:07:45.576 - funding for a change order one for Hopewell West. Senator Eaton. Good evening, Roy Eaton with the City 00:07:45.576 --> 00:07:53.305 - Engineering Department. This is part of our Hopewell West project that was awarded to Crider and Crider 00:07:53.305 --> 00:08:00.959 - in the amount of $1,687,318.85. This is change order number one that has come before us. It's a result 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:07.870 - of the project had a soil management plan that's being managed by a vet that wasn't realized 00:08:08.034 --> 00:08:14.156 - prior to bidding. So after bidding, there was some additional charges. This is a scope change order 00:08:14.156 --> 00:08:20.401 - that we've gone through where it's additional stockpiling until it's tested by vet and then the soils 00:08:20.401 --> 00:08:26.585 - move to another location and it's managing those stockpiles and keeping all the soil on the project. 00:08:26.585 --> 00:08:32.891 - So those are the items that weren't aware of prior to bidding, but we're aware of now. So we're asking 00:08:32.891 --> 00:08:35.646 - that through change order number one to have 00:08:36.002 --> 00:08:46.211 - those items added to the project. The change order is in the amount of $153,000 for 153,444,070. 00:08:46.211 --> 00:08:56.947 - And then an additional 14 days are being added to the project. So our final completion date now would 00:08:56.947 --> 00:08:59.262 - be November 15, 2025. 00:09:03.170 --> 00:09:17.988 - Any questions or comments from commissioners on resolution 25-106? Yeah, I've got one. With all that said, 00:09:17.988 --> 00:09:31.422 - isn't resolve number two incorrect? That not to exceed number is the old total, not the new one. 00:09:37.890 --> 00:10:06.878 - Yeah, so the original amount is for the bid was $1,687,318.85. This would be an add of $153,444.70. The final 00:10:07.586 --> 00:10:17.956 - The contract amount will be $1,840,763.55. So you're correct. That will need to be revised. Thank you 00:10:17.956 --> 00:10:28.936 - for that catch. Any other questions or comments from commissioners on this? So based on the soil management 00:10:28.936 --> 00:10:35.646 - plan, we didn't know we had nasty soil, essentially. Whoa. We do. 00:10:35.874 --> 00:10:43.176 - from the environmental review that we were doing. They were charging forward on Jackson Street and ended 00:10:43.176 --> 00:10:50.200 - up taking it out for bid without talking to us to say what's going on there. So there was definitely 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:57.572 - a disconnect that we've now realized. The city was aware of it. That's why it's a change in scope instead 00:10:57.572 --> 00:11:02.718 - of an unforeseen site condition. What did it affect to the original bids? 00:11:02.818 --> 00:11:08.867 - This amount would have been incorporated in the original bid. So the original bid would have come in. 00:11:08.867 --> 00:11:15.212 - This is just work that needs to be done. And on that, we were given numbers by Crider and Crider for this. 00:11:15.212 --> 00:11:21.261 - They came in exactly what the estimate would have been for it. So there was good numbers. And when we 00:11:21.261 --> 00:11:27.665 - deal with this remediated soil, it's going to stay on site and be capped? At this point, we've incorporated 00:11:27.665 --> 00:11:32.350 - into the plan to keep this on site. It'll be tested. We're testing everything. 00:11:32.738 --> 00:11:39.219 - out there so we're anticipating that none of the tests will come back yet but the test results will 00:11:39.219 --> 00:11:45.765 - be considered safe and it's just better to leave it on site from a environmental impact page so yeah 00:11:45.765 --> 00:11:52.894 - we're going to just there's plenty of room on this job site to have Phil placed in it so that won't affect us 00:11:53.186 --> 00:11:58.469 - Is it in a negative context with any additional residences? We're not keeping contaminated soil. 00:11:58.469 --> 00:12:03.915 - If it comes back clean through the testing process, then it will be reused. Otherwise, it will have 00:12:03.915 --> 00:12:09.361 - to be taken off site, which will come back for a different, for an additional. Well, you've already 00:12:09.361 --> 00:12:14.970 - proved that through vets. Well, we will have additional if we have to, depending upon how much we have 00:12:14.970 --> 00:12:20.307 - to dump. But that's through the vet contract. OK, so the vet contract is for the site as a whole, 00:12:20.307 --> 00:12:21.342 - not just our site. 00:12:21.474 --> 00:12:30.625 - For the west side, yes, the west entirety of the west side of Hopewell, not just the isolated area where 00:12:30.625 --> 00:12:40.125 - we identified a previous gas station. Due to our environmental review, we are required because we aggregated 00:12:40.125 --> 00:12:43.262 - it under, I can't cite the CFR, but 00:12:44.258 --> 00:12:54.444 - we are required to now have the soil management plan for the entire aggregated site of blocks four through 00:12:54.444 --> 00:13:04.630 - seven. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Any other questions or comments from commissioners on resolution 25106? 00:13:04.630 --> 00:13:11.198 - If not, I'll open it for public comment, either online or in person. 00:13:11.970 --> 00:13:20.486 - Seeing none, I will invite a motion for this resolution, please. Move approval of Resolution 25106. Second. 00:13:20.486 --> 00:13:29.238 - Second. Got a first and two seconds. Do we have a roll call vote, please? Sue Scandallari, yes. Randy Cassidy, 00:13:29.238 --> 00:13:37.438 - yes. John West, yes. Laurie McCrobby, yes. Deborah Meyerson, yes. Resolution 25-106 passes unanimously. 00:13:38.882 --> 00:13:44.911 - Next item on our agenda is approval is 25-107, approval of funding for addendum number two 00:13:44.911 --> 00:13:52.001 - to the professional service contract for the beeline trail and multi-use path. This is awesome, Mr. Aiden. 00:13:52.001 --> 00:13:58.693 - This is me, Roy Aiden with City Engineering. This is our beeline multi-use path project. This is the 00:13:58.693 --> 00:14:05.385 - section of path that's between Adams and Fountain Drive that has yet to be constructed. We had hired 00:14:05.385 --> 00:14:08.830 - Caramida to do an environmental and test the soils. 00:14:08.962 --> 00:14:16.252 - There were some soils out there that had lead impacted soils. They were very low levels. We went ahead 00:14:16.252 --> 00:14:23.470 - and we have already approved to the RDC the resolution to have them do the actual contracting work of 00:14:23.470 --> 00:14:30.972 - picking it up. What we did not have though was, because we did not know the quantities of soil until now, 00:14:30.972 --> 00:14:37.342 - there's a disposal fee that is from waste management to take the soil up at twin bridges. 00:14:37.634 --> 00:14:46.350 - They have invoiced us now. We've added that to our agreement with Caramida. So this addendum number 00:14:46.350 --> 00:14:55.676 - two to their resolution is in the amount of $11,666 and is the disposal fees from Twin Bridges. Thank you. 00:14:55.676 --> 00:15:01.342 - Any questions or comments of commissioners on resolution 25-107? 00:15:04.578 --> 00:15:13.444 - There are none. I will open it for public comment, either online or in person. Seeing none, I will invite 00:15:13.444 --> 00:15:21.976 - a motion for Resolution 25-107. Move approval of Resolution 25-107. Second. Got a first and a second. 00:15:21.976 --> 00:15:31.260 - We'll do a vote by roll call, please. Sue Scambaleri, yes. Randy Cassidy, yes. John West, yes. Laura McRobbie, 00:15:31.260 --> 00:15:31.678 - yes. 00:15:32.322 --> 00:15:39.762 - Deborah Meyer saying yes. Resolution 25107 passes unanimously. Next item on our agenda is resolution 25-108, 00:15:39.762 --> 00:15:46.791 - which is approval of a lease for the 4th Street Garage commercial office space with Visit Bloomington. 00:15:46.791 --> 00:15:53.958 - Who would like to speak to that? I'll be happy to speak to that. Jane Coopersmith, Economic Development, 00:15:53.958 --> 00:16:00.783 - and then Mr. Kerr, I'm sure, can provide additional context if needed. We approved this lease under 00:16:00.783 --> 00:16:01.534 - a previous 00:16:03.362 --> 00:16:12.370 - resolution and visit Bloomington the process that was 2559 the visit Bloomington team director Mike 00:16:12.370 --> 00:16:22.008 - McAfee took that back to the board his board and they really and they also investigated in a more detailed 00:16:22.008 --> 00:16:31.646 - way the costs of building the site out and so they came back with a request to reduce the annual rent rate 00:16:34.402 --> 00:16:42.862 - know, a fair amount. And so after communicating with Director Killian Hanson and doing some additional 00:16:42.862 --> 00:16:51.240 - market research, we determined that this is on par with market rents. And the staff feels really good 00:16:51.240 --> 00:17:00.029 - about recommending approval of the requested rent rates. John West, you had asked about the renewal terms. 00:17:00.029 --> 00:17:04.382 - And this does include four additional renewal terms. 00:17:04.546 --> 00:17:11.185 - allows for addendums to be approved at the time of renewal. So those rates would be negotiated at that time. 00:17:11.185 --> 00:17:17.338 - And I think Visit Bloomington was really interested in having those additional renewal terms because 00:17:17.338 --> 00:17:23.429 - they're making significant investment in the site and in the property, and they're really committed 00:17:23.429 --> 00:17:29.764 - based on the presence of the convention center. So again, from a staff perspective, we feel really good 00:17:29.764 --> 00:17:33.662 - about making a recommendation for approval for this resolution. 00:17:34.082 --> 00:17:42.074 - And I'm happy to take additional questions and say Mr. McAfee was really disappointed not to be able 00:17:42.074 --> 00:17:50.540 - to be here to take questions as well, that he had significant conflict. OK. Thank you very much. Questions 00:17:50.540 --> 00:17:58.531 - or comments from commissioners on resolution 25-108? I'll just make a comment. I had the opportunity 00:17:58.531 --> 00:18:03.358 - to look at this document and also consult on the rental rate 00:18:04.098 --> 00:18:10.668 - I find it to be in the city's best interest to go ahead and move forward with this lease. Thank you. 00:18:10.668 --> 00:18:16.717 - Any other questions or comments from commissioners? If not, I'll open it for public comment. 00:18:16.717 --> 00:18:23.287 - Either online or in person, seeing none, I will invite a motion for a resolution 25-108. I'll make a 00:18:23.287 --> 00:18:30.052 - motion to approve 25-108. I'll second it. We've got a first and a second. We'll do a vote by roll call, 00:18:30.052 --> 00:18:33.630 - please. C.S. Campbell, Larry, yes. Randy Cassidy, yes. 00:18:33.922 --> 00:18:40.730 - John West, yes. Laura McRobbie, yes. Deborah Meyerson, yes. Resolution 25108 passes unanimously. 00:18:40.730 --> 00:18:47.888 - Next item on our agenda is resolution 25109, which is approval of a second amendment to the CARES Act 00:18:47.888 --> 00:18:55.679 - Community Development Block Grant Award to the Bloomington Housing Authority. Who would like to speak to that? 00:18:55.679 --> 00:19:00.030 - Cody Toothman from our department who will be speaking to it. 00:19:05.538 --> 00:19:11.756 - if everybody can hear me. Yeah, this amendment would actually grant an extension of time for actually 00:19:11.756 --> 00:19:17.852 - all the recipients that are on the board for tonight. The original contract it stated that they had 00:19:17.852 --> 00:19:24.191 - until May of 2023 to expend all funds, but the paragraph right underneath it would also have given them 00:19:24.191 --> 00:19:26.142 - six years to completely expend. 00:19:26.658 --> 00:19:33.426 - the HUD deadline for these funds before they are reverted back or unable to be used is actually September 00:19:33.426 --> 00:19:39.875 - of 2026. So we're seeking to expand that time to actually line up with HUD's cutoff date for the use 00:19:39.875 --> 00:19:46.388 - of those funds. Thanks. And so I'm actually going to introduce this just real quick as we discuss it, 00:19:46.388 --> 00:19:52.965 - and especially if staff have feedback on it, if it would be apt to group the extension because they're 00:19:52.965 --> 00:19:55.774 - pretty much the same for all organizations. 00:19:56.002 --> 00:20:02.886 - So this would be for resolution 25-109, which is currently on the table, all the way through 25-112. 00:20:02.886 --> 00:20:09.906 - So that's four amendments or four resolutions that are being comparably amended. So I'm just proposing 00:20:09.906 --> 00:20:16.926 - that we would approve those as a group. And if there's any, again, if staff have any, either endorsing 00:20:16.926 --> 00:20:22.174 - that idea or reasons not to do that in addition to what commissioners might. 00:20:22.594 --> 00:20:31.020 - I would recommend going ahead and doing them together. We do a lot of our CDBG contracts the same way, 00:20:31.020 --> 00:20:38.628 - grouping those social services or physical improvement projects, and these all are the same. 00:20:38.628 --> 00:20:46.154 - So with that report and that proposal being recommended by staff, any questions or comments 00:20:46.154 --> 00:20:52.126 - from commissioners on any of these four resolutions on CDBG funds or the 00:20:52.226 --> 00:21:03.974 - extension of the deadline. Not seeing any. I'll open it for public comment either in person or online. 00:21:03.974 --> 00:21:16.406 - Not seeing any. I will invite a motion for the resolutions 109 through 112. I'll move approval of resolution 00:21:16.406 --> 00:21:19.486 - 25109 through 112. Second. 00:21:20.034 --> 00:21:30.091 - We've got a first and a second. We'll do a roll call vote, please. C. Scambaleri, yes. Brady step down. Oh, 00:21:30.091 --> 00:21:39.496 - John West, yes. I was just listening. Lauren McRobbie, yes. Deborah Meyer, saying yes. Motion passes 00:21:39.496 --> 00:21:46.014 - unanimously with one abstention, shall we say? Okay, well, thank you. 00:21:46.306 --> 00:21:53.925 - Next item on our agenda is resolution 25-113, which is approval of an agreement with the Weddle Brothers 00:21:53.925 --> 00:22:01.544 - Construction Company for temporary storage at the convention center parking lot. Who would like to speak 00:22:01.544 --> 00:22:08.800 - to that? I'll speak to that one. You have the resolution before you. There is a part of the parking 00:22:08.800 --> 00:22:15.838 - lot at the convention center where the city of Bloomington owes two parts of two parcels and the 00:22:16.098 --> 00:22:26.248 - RDC owns the other part. It's actually owned by the Bloomington Municipal Facilities Corp. But there 00:22:26.248 --> 00:22:36.297 - is a deed where they have transferred it over to the RDC that we've come across and we are going to 00:22:36.297 --> 00:22:44.638 - be recording that, but the deed has been signed. So the RDC does own the property. 00:22:44.802 --> 00:22:53.165 - and part of the property. There is an attachment that has a map that shows the, at the top of the map 00:22:53.165 --> 00:23:01.529 - would be the hotel that's adjacent to the convention center on the south side. Then there's a parking 00:23:01.529 --> 00:23:09.810 - lot owned by others. And then the blue hatch area on the right is the location where Weddle Brothers 00:23:09.810 --> 00:23:14.238 - would like to store materials during the construction 00:23:14.530 --> 00:23:24.075 - of the convention center expansion. So they have asked for a right of entry to do that. And we have 00:23:24.075 --> 00:23:33.334 - a right of entry agreement and a resolution accepting that agreement. So the blue hatch is ours. 00:23:33.334 --> 00:23:42.974 - The blue hatch is the northern part of it is RDC. The southern part of it is the city of Wilmington. 00:23:43.170 --> 00:23:54.557 - longer strips the city of Bloomington does. Then it goes into the county? Yes. How's that going to affect 00:23:54.557 --> 00:24:05.621 - parking? You mean current parking for the convention center? Yeah, current parking. I was going to ask 00:24:05.621 --> 00:24:11.422 - that same question. That's my concern as far as we're 00:24:13.634 --> 00:24:25.862 - I didn't negotiate that. Do you guys want to jump in? That's a lot of parking that you're taking off of. 00:24:25.862 --> 00:24:37.158 - They're taking all three of those. You got too many lines here. Anyway, both of those blue hash. 00:24:37.158 --> 00:24:41.118 - They're taking both of them? Yes. 00:24:41.346 --> 00:24:50.547 - the blue hatch here. That's dozens of parking spaces. Was the Convention Center consulted? Yeah. 00:24:50.547 --> 00:25:00.982 - I wasn't even consulted about this. I don't know anything about this. OK. Sounds like we have some additional 00:25:00.982 --> 00:25:10.942 - questions before. Yeah, who negotiated this to begin with? This was brought to our attention by the CIV. 00:25:11.554 --> 00:25:19.212 - with whether we need to store the materials. Just to move things forward, I'm assuming they don't need 00:25:19.212 --> 00:25:26.647 - this within the next week or so. Well, it'll be a couple weeks. Yeah, no, a couple weeks because of 00:25:26.647 --> 00:25:34.453 - our next meeting. It's going to come back to us and I would have a hard time approving it without making 00:25:34.453 --> 00:25:39.806 - sure the Convention Center knew about it and I don't want to, you know, 00:25:39.970 --> 00:25:46.256 - put them out of business while we're, mm-hmm. Hey Jane, were you present for any of these conversations 00:25:46.256 --> 00:25:52.240 - about this? No, I mean I was at the last CIB, but I didn't, this wasn't discussed at that meeting. 00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:58.949 - What's the procedure for table until we have the ability to have some additional conversations? We just do it. 00:25:58.949 --> 00:26:05.175 - Just do it. Yeah. I'll make a motion to table until such time as our economic development director can 00:26:05.175 --> 00:26:09.950 - have conversations with the convention center and see how that's gonna impact. 00:26:10.114 --> 00:26:20.057 - Or whoever. Or whoever, yeah. Yeah. Toysha Coppock was on that email list, so she's aware of it. 00:26:20.057 --> 00:26:30.819 - And John Weichardt and Jim Weillach, along with the controller and Margie and I, and the Weigel Brothers 00:26:30.819 --> 00:26:38.814 - project manager were all on the request to draft that. But we don't know yet. 00:26:38.914 --> 00:26:48.261 - Somewhere in the world, there's emails and socks. Margie Rice, Corporation Counsel, is online and has 00:26:48.261 --> 00:26:57.426 - her hand up if anybody would like to consult with her. Margie, you're up. Hey, everybody. I do want 00:26:57.426 --> 00:27:06.956 - to make sure, Dana, I did hear Dana just say that the Convention Center is aware of this. They're super 00:27:06.956 --> 00:27:08.606 - excited about the 00:27:09.026 --> 00:27:15.593 - convention center construction. They've been communicating on a regular basis with the CIB and their 00:27:15.593 --> 00:27:22.420 - representatives, and they brought this to our attention to bring to you guys through your consideration. 00:27:22.420 --> 00:27:29.247 - And so that's what we're doing tonight, agreeing to your consideration. There's been no concerns at all. 00:27:29.247 --> 00:27:36.075 - Talisha was on the original email when Little Brother said, hey, we're gonna need some area for staging. 00:27:36.075 --> 00:27:37.310 - And so they asked, 00:27:37.602 --> 00:27:44.772 - you know, what area was available. And so Dana put this together for your guys' consideration. But for sure, 00:27:44.772 --> 00:27:51.415 - the Convention Center is aware of this request. And I think they're on board because they want to do 00:27:51.415 --> 00:27:58.256 - whatever they can to facilitate the construction of the Convention Center. My only concern, Margie, is, 00:27:58.256 --> 00:28:04.965 - well, it's an email trend. There's been conversation that says it's not how it's going to affect them 00:28:04.965 --> 00:28:07.070 - from an operational standpoint. 00:28:10.018 --> 00:28:17.610 - I'm sorry, you're concerned because you think it's going to? No, I don't. I don't know. We as a community 00:28:17.610 --> 00:28:24.414 - as a whole have confirmation from the Convention Center operator, which... It's Talisha. Yeah, 00:28:24.414 --> 00:28:31.649 - Talisha Coppock, that this is a good place for a lay down area and it won't negatively impact any of 00:28:31.649 --> 00:28:38.238 - the operations that they're currently doing during the next year when we have construction. 00:28:38.754 --> 00:28:46.542 - So Talisha is the one who initiated the request and said that the project manager for Weddle Brothers 00:28:46.542 --> 00:28:54.636 - needed to apply for a permit for construction staging and that it required an affidavit from the property 00:28:54.636 --> 00:29:02.730 - owner, which is why, since a couple of the parcels are owned by you guys, we wanted to get your approval. 00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:07.006 - I don't think Talisha would have been recommending this 00:29:07.426 --> 00:29:14.006 - she thought it was gonna affect their operations. Okay, she's recommended it, so. She's the one who 00:29:14.006 --> 00:29:20.390 - initiated it. Okay, that's what we're trying to clarify. Yeah, and so, you know, a lot of these, 00:29:20.390 --> 00:29:27.562 - as you can imagine, a lot of things that come to you guys have gone through a lot of different conversations 00:29:27.562 --> 00:29:34.209 - with staff before it lands in a public meeting. And so, this is just an example of that. I think the 00:29:34.209 --> 00:29:36.446 - different boxes have been checked 00:29:37.154 --> 00:29:44.935 - um, before it came to you guys for consideration. Now, if anybody in the room thinks, you know, that that's, 00:29:44.935 --> 00:29:52.572 - you know, there are concerns about this from a city standpoint, like if we care about it, um, let us know. 00:29:52.572 --> 00:29:59.710 - But we, we also are trying, you know, it's a little bit one of those truth bags. We're trying to do 00:29:59.710 --> 00:30:06.206 - what we can to facilitate the construction of the Convention Center and save costs because 00:30:06.818 --> 00:30:13.763 - It's coming out of our pocket, our food and beverage pocket. And so we have an interest in trying to 00:30:13.763 --> 00:30:20.915 - facilitate the construction of it. And we're often accused of dragging our feet or slowing things down. 00:30:20.915 --> 00:30:28.273 - And so we're trying not to do that. So Margie, I don't have a, with what you said, I don't have a problem. 00:30:28.273 --> 00:30:36.318 - I think that this probably would have gone smoother if the resolution had maybe indicated that the convention center 00:30:36.962 --> 00:30:44.446 - operators were involved in this and approved it. Because the way we got it, it was kind of a dead end topic. 00:30:44.446 --> 00:30:51.312 - And as Randy said, it looked to me like we were just taking away parking spaces that the convention 00:30:51.312 --> 00:30:58.178 - center might likely need. So that was the issue. Yeah. I can appreciate that. I'm glad we were able 00:30:58.178 --> 00:31:05.043 - to answer these questions. But I do think that they're not concerned about it. And certainly, Dana, 00:31:05.043 --> 00:31:06.142 - the way this is 00:31:06.658 --> 00:31:15.994 - written, it can be adjusted as needed, isn't that right? The way you've drafted it? Yes, as far as the 00:31:15.994 --> 00:31:25.329 - area that they have, yes, it could be negotiated. Let me pull it back in here. Yeah, it's such a weird 00:31:25.329 --> 00:31:34.847 - site because they are using all of that parcel for construction. They need some place to put their stuff 00:31:34.847 --> 00:31:36.478 - nearby. I get it. 00:31:39.458 --> 00:31:44.901 - I think we're okay. I'm okay with it after you said that Talisha specifically initiated it in regards 00:31:44.901 --> 00:31:50.024 - to the Operating Convention Center. We just want to make sure we didn't come back, as you said, 00:31:50.024 --> 00:31:55.361 - as a community and appear that we were slow-walking anything in regards to the construction of this 00:31:55.361 --> 00:32:00.804 - Convention Center. This is a community project that we're all involved in and the City of Bloomington 00:32:00.804 --> 00:32:06.301 - is financing it through our F&D, so it's important to make it. Yeah, and you guys know, I mean, you've 00:32:06.301 --> 00:32:08.382 - already allowed Wilder Brothers to use 00:32:08.482 --> 00:32:17.829 - an RDC on building for space. We're trying to be as accommodating as we can be, just so that we are 00:32:17.829 --> 00:32:27.269 - not causing extra delay, which is cost. Well, I guess because there is the agreement reads that with 00:32:27.269 --> 00:32:33.438 - 30-day notice, it could be terminated either in whole or in part. 00:32:34.018 --> 00:32:43.241 - When Talisha found out or decided that she just took off too much parking, we could redo the agreement 00:32:43.241 --> 00:32:52.464 - and cut down on the allocation space and try to accommodate her. We can, yep, for sure. The only other 00:32:52.464 --> 00:33:00.702 - thing I have is just to make sure that, and I know Weddle Brothers will do a fantastic job, 00:33:01.090 --> 00:33:08.684 - to make sure that it gets put back in the same condition it was, or better. Yes, it states that Weddle 00:33:08.684 --> 00:33:16.572 - Brothers shall return possession of the property in the same or improved condition as when Weddle Brothers 00:33:16.572 --> 00:33:24.608 - took possession. Any improvements must be approved by city staff. Perfect. Thank you, Dan. I just wanted to, 00:33:24.608 --> 00:33:27.262 - it's just kind of an editing thing, 00:33:27.554 --> 00:33:35.633 - At the top of the resolution, sorry, I'm just trying to get to the space. Sorry, I was just scanning 00:33:35.633 --> 00:33:43.792 - to make sure that my question wasn't answered in the resolution and now I'm getting back to the space 00:33:43.792 --> 00:33:51.870 - where it says that they all agree. Well, that's what I'm trying to recapture where I was looking at. 00:33:51.870 --> 00:33:54.270 - It was a statement that said, 00:33:55.042 --> 00:34:04.882 - the city RDC all agree on this. Sorry I just lost it. Let me just quick look do a search because there 00:34:04.882 --> 00:34:15.200 - was an abbreviation of BCM and I was looking to see if that was specifically indicated what that stood for. 00:34:15.200 --> 00:34:22.078 - OK so this is page 205 in the packet. This is I guess from the previous 00:34:23.650 --> 00:34:31.428 - Because it says on the second day of August. Should that say second day of September? Or is this, again, 00:34:31.428 --> 00:34:39.207 - I'm trying to like just, anyway. So my question is specifically in the middle of the page where it says, 00:34:39.207 --> 00:34:47.060 - now therefore in consideration of the mutual covenants, terms and conditions of this agreement, the city, 00:34:47.060 --> 00:34:51.134 - RDC, and BCM agree to the following. I just don't see. 00:34:51.426 --> 00:35:02.224 - a specific reference that says what BCM refers to. That's a good catch. Bench or construction management. 00:35:02.224 --> 00:35:12.512 - And that was related to construction at the pool world. Yeah, good catch. And also was the date then 00:35:12.512 --> 00:35:14.142 - incorrect also? 00:35:33.282 --> 00:35:39.510 - Yeah, the top. Right, where it says 2nd of August. It's supposed to be 2nd of September. It's got to 00:35:39.510 --> 00:35:46.047 - be wrong because your resolution. Right. I, again, was trying to make sense of if there was some addendum 00:35:46.047 --> 00:35:52.522 - that was from a previous reference or whatever, but. And I can have that modified here. So this is under 00:35:52.522 --> 00:35:58.874 - the contract cover memorandum is the first page of it and then the summary of the contract is what I'm 00:35:58.874 --> 00:35:59.614 - looking at. 00:36:00.130 --> 00:36:06.173 - And then that's the next page that says agreement for temporary storage at conventions under parking lot. 00:36:06.173 --> 00:36:11.931 - So it's the date that needs to be updated to September instead of August. And then the other parties 00:36:11.931 --> 00:36:17.917 - to the agreement, again, BCM is obviously left over from a different document. So just, is there a third 00:36:17.917 --> 00:36:23.390 - party that should be in there? Is that Weddle Brothers? I guess it'd be Weddle Brothers. Right. 00:36:44.258 --> 00:36:50.719 - I'm just quick scanning the rest of the summary to see if it's all consistent as far as I can tell. 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:57.375 - But it looks like Weddle Brothers is a consistent reference. And then again, I was just looking at the 00:36:57.375 --> 00:37:03.836 - signatures, which is again, Weddle Brothers should be Bloomington and the REC. So it seems like the 00:37:03.836 --> 00:37:10.879 - rest of it is as needed was just those two edits. Okay. Any further comments or questions for commissioners? 00:37:10.879 --> 00:37:14.110 - Otherwise I'll open it for public comment either. 00:37:14.274 --> 00:37:22.802 - Online or in person. Seeing none, I will invite a motion for Resolution 25-113 as amended. I'll make 00:37:22.802 --> 00:37:32.089 - a motion to approve 25-113 as amended with the date and the Weddle Brothers being added. I'll second. Second. 00:37:32.089 --> 00:37:41.208 - OK, first and second. Can we do a roll call vote, please? C. Scambleri, yes. Randy Cassidy, yes. John West, 00:37:41.208 --> 00:37:41.630 - yes. 00:37:42.594 --> 00:37:50.036 - Lori McRobie, yes. Deborah Meyers, yes. Motion passes unanimously for resolution 25-113. Thank you. 00:37:50.036 --> 00:37:58.147 - Next item on the agenda is resolution 25-114, which is approval of Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Smith, 00:37:58.147 --> 00:38:05.440 - Incorporated, Care of Bank of America, National Association, key provisions of lease termination. 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:12.286 - Who would like to speak to that? OK. I can, or I'm not sure if Margie was planning on that. 00:38:12.386 --> 00:38:22.166 - So I can move forward with that one. I'm happy to chime in whenever. Dana, why don't you do that since 00:38:22.166 --> 00:38:32.230 - you have the resolution right in front of you. You do the start and I'll answer any questions. All right, 00:38:32.230 --> 00:38:41.630 - will do. OK, so we negotiated with Merrill Lynch their termination of their lease at Showers West. 00:38:42.178 --> 00:38:51.804 - What they requested was to be able to stay until March 31st, and they'd like to not have to remove their 00:38:51.804 --> 00:39:01.155 - equipment and furniture. They want to just walk away. And in return for that, the city would not need 00:39:01.155 --> 00:39:11.422 - to reimburse them for any moving expenses or anything under the lease agreement. So this is, we considered it a 00:39:11.618 --> 00:39:21.935 - win-win, because the RDC is not paying anything. And they will be out. And we still got some tenants 00:39:21.935 --> 00:39:32.353 - that we're working with. And so we feel that this is a good way to go. And if others wanted to do the 00:39:32.353 --> 00:39:41.342 - same thing, stay till March 31st. And the RDC not have to pay any moving expenses, then 00:39:42.018 --> 00:39:49.570 - they could set forward and do that as well. Who paid for the original furniture and equipment? Sorry, 00:39:49.570 --> 00:39:57.270 - they did. I was about to invite questions. Yeah, they did. They had done a build out, plus they provide 00:39:57.270 --> 00:40:04.748 - the furniture and equipment. My understanding from the discussions is that they're actually going to 00:40:04.748 --> 00:40:11.486 - be downsizing the office some. There was only three people that worked there, and this was 00:40:11.746 --> 00:40:19.050 - a larger space and they're probably going to do something smaller and may just update their equipment. 00:40:19.050 --> 00:40:26.213 - And again, they just want to walk away from it. What is meant by equipment exactly? Here's where I'm 00:40:26.213 --> 00:40:33.446 - headed with this. If any of this is computer related and requires us to wipe hard drives or follow up 00:40:33.446 --> 00:40:40.254 - with dispositional confidential material or anything like that, I'm just trying to get at that. 00:40:41.090 --> 00:40:50.949 - Yes, no, they would be liable if they transferred data that was personal or identifying information to us. 00:40:50.949 --> 00:41:01.176 - That would be opposed to their contracts with their clients. It would be opposed with their business practice. 00:41:01.176 --> 00:41:10.206 - It could really set them up for liability. So I wouldn't anticipate anything like that happening. 00:41:13.762 --> 00:41:24.783 - So they're going to pay rent through March. Yes, well, that's my understanding. Yeah, and I can jump in here. 00:41:24.783 --> 00:41:35.404 - I have been working. Merrill Lynch reached out to CBRE, which is a company that works in multiple states. 00:41:35.404 --> 00:41:42.718 - I've been working with one of their transactions personnel at Cleveland. 00:41:43.362 --> 00:41:51.128 - He's been interacting with Merrill Lynch in New York. And so the local team, I had originally reached 00:41:51.128 --> 00:41:58.132 - out to the local team, Eric Seuer, and met with him, and then was quickly directed to these 00:41:58.132 --> 00:42:06.051 - other professionals to work with. And I think this is a great deal for the city of Wilmington. Frankly, 00:42:06.051 --> 00:42:10.238 - it's probably the nicest office space in Showers West. 00:42:10.786 --> 00:42:18.111 - They had not long ago updated that office. And so the fact that they want to leave their furniture, 00:42:18.111 --> 00:42:25.509 - and then I don't know exactly if they're going to take any of the furniture with them, but what they 00:42:25.509 --> 00:42:32.907 - don't want, the leave and their fixtures, will not be a problem for us. It's to the city's advantage 00:42:32.907 --> 00:42:40.158 - to walk away. And they've been very professional. They understand the terms of the lease, I think, 00:42:40.770 --> 00:42:49.259 - kind of a more global perspective, and they have been very good to work with, and I would highly recommend 00:42:49.259 --> 00:42:57.352 - that we take this offer. So Margie, I've only got really one question, and it's a bit of a delay from 00:42:57.352 --> 00:43:05.842 - what you were trying to achieve. How does bond counsel feel about that? You know, it's not ideal. Ideally, 00:43:05.842 --> 00:43:08.222 - I wanted them out in October, 00:43:08.386 --> 00:43:15.917 - um, REC granted until December, but if we are able to, um, just get the keys back and not have to pay 00:43:15.917 --> 00:43:23.595 - a settlement, I think that is worth the extra delay. There may be, if we have to end up litigating, um, 00:43:23.595 --> 00:43:31.199 - you know, if we had to litigate, it could take longer. Um, so I think that- I don't, I'm not, I'm not, 00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:37.918 - you don't have to justify the arrangement. I like the arrangement. I just didn't want, uh, 00:43:39.042 --> 00:43:47.015 - I didn't want a bonding issue January 1 because we didn't move everybody out. That's where I was heading. 00:43:47.015 --> 00:43:54.461 - One of the conversations I've had with Bond Council also is just sort of the ratio of the quicker. 00:43:54.461 --> 00:44:02.058 - We've got somebody who's going to be able to potentially move out in October. This will hopefully be 00:44:02.058 --> 00:44:04.766 - the longest tenant that holds over. 00:44:05.090 --> 00:44:13.450 - but we will we are slowly but surely reducing the percentage of space that is privately used and increasing 00:44:13.450 --> 00:44:21.268 - the amount of public space and so I I'm not that I'm not concerned that we're going to get a finding 00:44:21.268 --> 00:44:29.086 - in in January as we are actively and we can prove that we're actively working on getting the tenants 00:44:29.086 --> 00:44:34.814 - out and reducing the private use. Thank you. Quick question in regards to 00:44:34.914 --> 00:44:41.080 - The only potential possibility we would have from a financial situation is if they leave and then we 00:44:41.080 --> 00:44:47.429 - have to move something out in order to make room. Because they're going to walk away. I've been in that 00:44:47.429 --> 00:44:53.594 - space when I went over for the first time to look at it. I don't think there's anything that's going 00:44:53.594 --> 00:45:00.187 - to cause our facilities team a big problem. No, I just want to make sure. Hopefully you can reuse it as is. 00:45:00.187 --> 00:45:04.766 - It's a great space. It's a nice space. I was going to ask if there was any 00:45:05.122 --> 00:45:10.145 - inventory that had been, you know, even preliminary just again kind of following up a little bit with 00:45:10.145 --> 00:45:15.119 - Sue's question about what does equipment mean and then partly with Randy's question about, you know, 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:20.191 - that any cost that might be incurred would be the cost of moving which again because we don't know yet 00:45:20.191 --> 00:45:25.164 - how the space is going to be used if all of what they leave is going to be useful or not. I just was 00:45:25.164 --> 00:45:26.494 - wondering if there was any 00:45:27.426 --> 00:45:32.945 - to have an inventory of exactly what they have and ideally even what's likely to be left behind that 00:45:32.945 --> 00:45:38.519 - would make it easier to say oh this is a good deal because I have no idea what they're leaving behind 00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:44.148 - and I realize there's uncertainty in terms of how the space will be used and if what's left behind can 00:45:44.148 --> 00:45:49.667 - be used so there's not every question can be answered but a little bit more in terms of an inventory 00:45:49.667 --> 00:45:55.678 - would make it a little more practical to be able to gauge whether the trade-off is worthwhile to me at least. 00:45:56.514 --> 00:46:04.536 - I can tell you they have a receptionist desk that is fixed. That's a fixture. They have individual offices. 00:46:04.536 --> 00:46:12.484 - They do have a server room. They will be taking their equipment, their computer equipment, all information 00:46:12.484 --> 00:46:20.135 - that's confidential. Obviously, they're going to take that information and any of the equipment that's 00:46:20.135 --> 00:46:25.854 - got that information on it. There is nothing. Again, I've been in the space. 00:46:26.786 --> 00:46:34.900 - I consider this, you know, they spent six figures outfitting this space. It's a very nice space. 00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:43.600 - And the fact that they are willing to and that we were able to negotiate their departure without having 00:46:43.600 --> 00:46:52.468 - paid them any damages is worth it. And I don't think that there's any, you know, anything in there that's 00:46:52.468 --> 00:46:56.734 - a deal breaker that's going to cause this problem. 00:46:56.962 --> 00:47:03.977 - It may be space that is, again, I don't know what the long-term plans are other than using it for public use. 00:47:03.977 --> 00:47:10.609 - There are no details. There's not been a master plan done for that space yet. But it's definitely space 00:47:10.609 --> 00:47:17.241 - that you could move into right now and use. I would just chime in and say that I've been in this space. 00:47:17.241 --> 00:47:23.682 - And I would feel that anything that's in that space that it's been left behind would be an asset and 00:47:23.682 --> 00:47:24.766 - not a liability. 00:47:25.826 --> 00:47:32.731 - it's got marketability. Okay well even just because I don't know that they may take some stuff so yeah 00:47:32.731 --> 00:47:39.502 - you know like just trying to kind of gauge but it's helpful certainly to hear the people who've seen 00:47:39.502 --> 00:47:46.406 - it engaged you know even if we don't know exactly what they're taking what they're leaving just trying 00:47:46.406 --> 00:47:51.166 - to kind of. It would be wonderful for the city if we could utilize it. 00:47:53.602 --> 00:48:02.586 - Quick question in regards to, is Merrill Lynch's downsizes, are they going to be staying and keeping 00:48:02.586 --> 00:48:11.482 - an office in Bloomington, Indiana? Yes, yes, for sure. In fact, their agent from CBRD has asked for 00:48:11.482 --> 00:48:20.555 - my recommendations on agents or places they might go. And they're definitely wanting to stay in town. 00:48:20.555 --> 00:48:22.334 - And so I intend to. 00:48:22.434 --> 00:48:28.176 - talked to him, I told him I would follow up with him after this meeting. But yeah, they definitely want 00:48:28.176 --> 00:48:33.917 - to stay. It's just they have a fairly small office. Mayor Lynch, again, is a company that's got offices 00:48:33.917 --> 00:48:39.714 - all over the United States. And they don't need as much office space as they were using in Showers West. 00:48:39.714 --> 00:48:45.566 - And so they're just looking to find the right smaller space here in Bloomington. Wonderful. As it becomes 00:48:45.566 --> 00:48:50.590 - a requirement that we have to move them out for our bond, I just want to make sure that we 00:48:50.946 --> 00:49:02.131 - capture that company still in our community as a whole. They've already downsized the number. As I went 00:49:02.131 --> 00:49:12.670 - in there, there was eight or nine rosers. It was a fairly big operation and now it's what, three? 00:49:13.154 --> 00:49:19.956 - So that's really good. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's a smaller. Two on a staff person. I mean, it's really 00:49:19.956 --> 00:49:27.088 - shut down. Yeah, well, COVID changed everything. Yeah. So with that. Well, technology does too. Yeah. Well, 00:49:27.088 --> 00:49:34.220 - thank you for those questions and responses. I will open it for public comment, either online or in person. 00:49:34.220 --> 00:49:41.022 - Seeing none, I will invite a motion for resolution 25-114. Move approval of resolution 25-114. Second. 00:49:41.378 --> 00:49:48.909 - We've got a first and a second. We'll do a roll call vote, please. C. Scandler, yes. Randy Cassidy, yes. 00:49:48.909 --> 00:49:56.369 - Next. Lori McRobbie, yes. Oh, John West, yes. Sorry. You're dragging. Deborah Meyerson, yes. Resolution 00:49:56.369 --> 00:50:02.967 - 25-114 passes unanimously. Thank you. Last resolution on our agenda this evening is 25-115, 00:50:02.967 --> 00:50:09.566 - approval of Bloomington Health Foundation incorporated key provisions of lease termination. 00:50:09.666 --> 00:50:18.508 - So going along a theme, who would like to speak to that? Before you do, I need to recuse myself because 00:50:18.508 --> 00:50:27.180 - I'm on the board of directors for the Health Foundation. Thank you. This resolution is similar to the 00:50:27.180 --> 00:50:35.766 - Merrill Lynch, but this is the Bloomington Health Foundation. And the key terms that were negotiated 00:50:35.766 --> 00:50:39.422 - with them was that the RDC would waive the 00:50:40.354 --> 00:50:53.525 - the lease payments for August, September, and up to October 15, that they would leave the property by 00:50:53.525 --> 00:51:07.213 - October 15 of this year. And for their moving expenses, they are asking for the sum of $19,542.50, again, 00:51:07.213 --> 00:51:09.150 - with the other 00:51:09.666 --> 00:51:18.836 - potential is margined with litigation and things like that. The fact that they're going to be out earlier 00:51:18.836 --> 00:51:28.180 - and be able to get moved to a new location, I believe this would be a benefit to the RDC and the community. 00:51:28.180 --> 00:51:33.630 - Thank you. Questions or comments from commissioners on 25-115? 00:51:34.786 --> 00:51:43.341 - They're staying local. We've reviewed the moving costs, find it adequate and within reasonable amounts. Yes, 00:51:43.341 --> 00:51:51.661 - we determined that this was within reason based on what they declared their expenses would be for moving. 00:51:51.661 --> 00:51:59.745 - And if this is approved, how many additional do we have to deal with? Margie, do you remember how many 00:51:59.745 --> 00:52:03.198 - are still there? You know, right now, stop. 00:52:03.298 --> 00:52:10.637 - I have seven in my hand, but that could be, I don't have the sheet correctly. Yeah, I think there's 00:52:10.637 --> 00:52:17.975 - five left after these two. Five left, okay. I believe it is. And we're still in active negotiations 00:52:17.975 --> 00:52:25.534 - with those individuals? Yes. Okay, because Bloomington companies, we want to keep them in Bloomington. 00:52:25.890 --> 00:52:34.651 - Yes, absolutely. And there are multiple factors that go into these kinds of negotiations, and there's 00:52:34.651 --> 00:52:44.185 - not a cookie-cutter approach. This is a nonprofit organization. They do great work here in Bloomington. Again, 00:52:44.185 --> 00:52:52.946 - I have talked to an exec team of their board members. I found them very reasonable to deal with, even 00:52:52.946 --> 00:52:54.750 - though their cost is 00:52:54.946 --> 00:53:00.991 - obviously higher than, and we're not paying Maryland anything, but they're getting out earlier. 00:53:00.991 --> 00:53:07.477 - They do have increased rent cost. They're a very tiny space, and so they're having to move to a little 00:53:07.477 --> 00:53:13.962 - bit larger space. Frankly, they were, again, very good to work with in the negotiations. We value them 00:53:13.962 --> 00:53:20.007 - as a community partner. Don't think that these costs for the increased rent they're gonna have, 00:53:20.007 --> 00:53:22.526 - extra parking costs they're gonna have, 00:53:23.202 --> 00:53:32.149 - We don't think that these are unreasonable costs to pay to keep this good community partner in downtown. 00:53:32.149 --> 00:53:41.097 - They're going to work with Cook, RCFC. And so all in all, I find this to be, again, an RDC in the city's 00:53:41.097 --> 00:53:48.510 - best interest. So I would recommend approval. And again, I just want to reiterate that 00:53:48.610 --> 00:53:58.113 - We are trying very hard to work with the tenants and not against them. It's easier with some than others. 00:53:58.113 --> 00:54:07.347 - But I found that Health Foundation be really sincere and helpful in the negotiation process. Any other 00:54:07.347 --> 00:54:14.878 - questions? The 19-5-42-50, what is the source of that payment from our perspective? 00:54:17.986 --> 00:54:27.077 - Oh, Margie, you're in me. I made it myself, yeah. So there are some forgiven rent, some costs for parking, 00:54:27.077 --> 00:54:34.978 - costs and increased expenses that they're going to have for rent, some moving of technology, 00:54:34.978 --> 00:54:43.559 - some IT disassembly, relocation costs, and AV equipment, some of those things that have to be moved. 00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:45.598 - So essentially, moving. 00:54:45.954 --> 00:54:53.861 - packing supplies, relocation of equipment, and then the costs that they're going to, like actual costs 00:54:53.861 --> 00:55:01.691 - that they're going to incur. And then what are we paying that out of? Out of what account? Is Jessica 00:55:01.691 --> 00:55:09.752 - in the room? Yes, can you repeat the question? It's probably the two-sided one. There's the same problem 00:55:09.752 --> 00:55:11.134 - we pay all of the 00:55:11.714 --> 00:55:18.759 - I don't know if it's the, is it, used to be called the. Oh, what we're playing the settlements out of. 00:55:18.759 --> 00:55:25.873 - It's the 2519. I would imagine that's probably the 25. The same phone we collect around. Exactly. Yeah. 00:55:25.873 --> 00:55:32.713 - Got it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. And again, what they actually would be entitled 00:55:32.713 --> 00:55:39.552 - to is likely different from this number, but given that they're a community partner, they need help 00:55:39.552 --> 00:55:40.510 - in relocating 00:55:40.674 --> 00:55:48.858 - And they are getting out early. We do believe it's an acceptable number. Okay. Okay. I'm going to open 00:55:48.858 --> 00:55:57.201 - it up for public comment, either online or in person. Seeing none, I will invite a motion for resolution 00:55:57.201 --> 00:56:05.068 - 25-115. I'll make a motion to approve 25-115 as presented. Second. We've got a first and a second. 00:56:05.068 --> 00:56:09.438 - We'll do a roll call vote, please. See Scamblary, yes. 00:56:09.698 --> 00:56:18.495 - Randy Cassidy, yes. John Wissemstein. Warren McRobbie, yes. Motion passes unanimously with the abstention. 00:56:18.495 --> 00:56:26.800 - I don't know if that's the right terminology, but that's what we got. Okay, well that's all the item 00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:35.844 - under our new business tonight. And is there anything else that is remains for business or general discussion 00:56:35.844 --> 00:56:37.406 - before we adjourn? 00:56:38.498 --> 00:56:45.381 - I have one thing I want to ask, and I think today we've approved 100 and obviously seven rep solutions. 00:56:45.381 --> 00:56:52.131 - How much have we spent, Jessica, since January 1st? Oh my gosh. Well, give me a minute. You get time. 00:56:52.131 --> 00:56:58.947 - It doesn't have to happen today, but in a couple weeks. I'm just curious. How much have we spent since 00:56:58.947 --> 00:57:05.168 - January 1st? It's a whole lot less than what we committed to. There we go. I'll go with that. 00:57:05.168 --> 00:57:06.558 - Isn't that just a... 00:57:08.322 --> 00:57:13.657 - We've still got a few more months in the calendar year. Well, isn't that just updating the 00:57:13.657 --> 00:57:19.989 - TIF reconciliation, whatever you call it? Yeah, I think that will answer the question. Yeah, yeah, it will, 00:57:19.989 --> 00:57:26.086 - definitely. Let me just... We're probably due to get an update on that. Yes, we're due to get an update 00:57:26.086 --> 00:57:32.242 - on that. I was going to say, I can put my thinking cap on real quick and get to that. It's not something 00:57:32.242 --> 00:57:37.342 - I need immediately. It's just something that I thought... Not very much, to be honest. 00:57:37.474 --> 00:57:44.105 - The feeling. And you're talking about, Randy, out of the TIF account, right? Not out of the operational 00:57:44.105 --> 00:57:50.799 - account. Yeah, operational, just out of TIF. TIF was my primary concern. The other one is an operational 00:57:50.799 --> 00:57:57.621 - account, but we don't have as much flexibility. Can you most certainly give me a report for the next week? 00:57:57.621 --> 00:58:03.742 - Sure. For sure, for sure. I know we'll be coming up with a quarterly report. Consolidating TIF. 00:58:05.154 --> 00:58:11.822 - Just request for future. I just would hate for it to be answered off the cuff. Oh, no. I would prefer 00:58:11.822 --> 00:58:19.078 - to have a little time. That's why I asked, possibly by next meeting. Perhaps we could remove the pressure now. 00:58:19.078 --> 00:58:26.139 - Yeah. We'll recognize that control and follow-up have to be buttoned in. That could be part of the business 00:58:26.139 --> 00:58:29.342 - report. Next month. Next two weeks. Is that 1.1? 00:58:29.506 --> 00:58:36.398 - $1.4 million in August, and so far this year we spent $5.3 million. There's a $2.1 million in January, 00:58:36.398 --> 00:58:43.290 - and I can't remember what that is off the top of my head. Was that the payment for IU Health? Oh yeah, 00:58:43.290 --> 00:58:50.718 - it was the payment. The final payment for IU Health was $2.1 million, and then very low months, like $400,000. 00:58:50.882 --> 00:58:59.829 - 180,000, 74,000, so our months have been running really low. 300,000, 335,000, and then 1.3 00:58:59.829 --> 00:59:10.234 - million last month, which must be a milestone thing. Or we required some documentation. So we have running 00:59:10.234 --> 00:59:20.542 - very low. So we have way less than what we had last year. Our internal rule is that we update that report 00:59:20.642 --> 00:59:26.647 - every quarter, right? So it'd be the beginning of, it'd be October, the first meeting in October. Yes, 00:59:26.647 --> 00:59:32.652 - I think so. So, I mean, I'd like, I don't want you to have to do the report in the middle just because 00:59:32.652 --> 00:59:39.123 - we're on the air. More or least fine. Can we just stick to what we've already agreed to? Yeah, we can do that. 00:59:39.123 --> 00:59:44.487 - Just making sure as we, as we- You're concerned and you just wanted a general update. Well, 00:59:44.487 --> 00:59:50.608 - it's not even a concern, it's just a matter of being able to update the public and ourselves as we know. 00:59:50.608 --> 00:59:55.901 - what our actual spend is and the accomplishments that we have. We have a plan that we're going to do. Well, 00:59:55.901 --> 01:00:00.752 - and I just also want to flag that even just because it's what's spent is not what we committed to. 01:00:00.752 --> 01:00:05.946 - There are two different things and so don't think that just because we've only spent five million dollars 01:00:05.946 --> 01:00:10.896 - or whatever the number is that there aren't more things coming down the pipeline. I'm just trying to 01:00:10.896 --> 01:00:11.582 - look at that. 01:00:11.810 --> 01:00:18.691 - Actual spent dollars versus commit dollars to make sure that we don't get ahead of our skis and cars to it. 01:00:18.691 --> 01:00:24.872 - We are not going to get ahead of our skis. Wonderful. We have a wonderful control over our skis. 01:00:24.872 --> 01:00:31.243 - Nana will not let us get ahead of our skis. I won't. Trust me. I'll send it right back. And I have. 01:00:31.243 --> 01:00:37.742 - Would you trust us, Finn? Yep. Thank you. I appreciate it. You're welcome. No problem. OK. So we will 01:00:37.742 --> 01:00:41.374 - look forward to that next month. In the meantime, I will 01:00:41.826 --> 01:00:46.142 - request a motion to adjourn. So moved. Okay, thank you everybody.