WEBVTT 00:00:00.258 --> 00:00:06.766 - Well, let's go to work. It is 5.02. Welcome, everyone. It is Monday, April 6. This is a meeting of the 00:00:06.766 --> 00:00:13.210 - City of Bloomington Redevelopment Commission. We will begin with a roll call, please. Laura McRobbie, 00:00:13.210 --> 00:00:19.844 - present. Randy Cassidy, present. John West, here. And Sue Scambillari, present. And among staff, please. 00:00:19.844 --> 00:00:26.162 - Anna Killian Hanson, director. Christina Finley, hand department. Cameron Caswell, hand department. 00:00:26.162 --> 00:00:30.142 - Jess McCamp, station controller. Roy Aitken, city engineering. 00:00:30.594 --> 00:00:38.269 - Anna Dragovich, yes, D. And that's everyone. Thank you much. OK. Let's move first to approval of minutes 00:00:38.269 --> 00:00:45.798 - for March 16, 2026. Are there any changes or corrections? If not, may I have a motion? Move to approve 00:00:45.798 --> 00:00:53.327 - as a present. Second. It's been moved and seconded. We'll do, no, we actually can do a voice vote. All 00:00:53.327 --> 00:00:59.102 - those in favor of approval indicate by saying aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? 00:00:59.618 --> 00:01:10.050 - Thank you. That passes. And those are approved. So we'll go now to the claims register for March 13, 00:01:10.050 --> 00:01:20.481 - 2026. Click. And are there any questions or comments from commissioners? One question on our lit for 00:01:20.481 --> 00:01:29.054 - the First United Church. Which page, please? OK. Thank you. I apologize. Page 205. 00:01:30.018 --> 00:01:37.856 - Okay, just curious on under our lit does that that just falls under previously presented situations 00:01:37.856 --> 00:01:46.087 - that occurred in February or January for emergency shelter. Oh, the emergency shelter. That was actually 00:01:46.087 --> 00:01:48.830 - an agreement that was executed in. 00:01:48.994 --> 00:01:56.891 - the previous year and was encumbered. It was for the BSWRs, which is the Bloomington. Gosh, I keep the 00:01:56.891 --> 00:02:04.788 - acronym escaping me now. Severe winter emergency. Thank you. Severe winter emergency response shelter. 00:02:04.788 --> 00:02:12.838 - There are two churches that are in partnership for that. And this was just a grant for the reimbursement 00:02:12.838 --> 00:02:17.822 - of paper materials and just used to the building for hosting it. 00:02:18.242 --> 00:02:24.620 - One of the churches did not turn in their claim until late, which was actually this year. But thankfully, 00:02:24.620 --> 00:02:30.697 - we had it encumbered. And there you go. That's where that came from. All the things were encumbered? 00:02:30.697 --> 00:02:36.895 - Yeah. It was already allocated, yes. Are there any of the things that we look at that would have where 00:02:36.895 --> 00:02:39.422 - the encumbrances are that people haven't? 00:02:39.970 --> 00:02:46.040 - submitted like in a year or from our timeframe standpoint? Every year at the close of the year we have 00:02:46.040 --> 00:02:51.934 - a responsibility to go through all of our open purchase orders and kind of touch base with at least 00:02:51.934 --> 00:02:58.240 - in our department who has a project that's moving forward or which ones need to be closed out that haven't 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:04.369 - spent all their money so I think we've gone through that process to make sure that everything is active 00:03:04.369 --> 00:03:08.318 - that is as far as the hand department goes I'm not sure what other 00:03:09.090 --> 00:03:15.219 - processes are in place. And we do have the ability to retrieve any encumbrances. To run the report on 00:03:15.219 --> 00:03:21.228 - the encumbrances so we know at least what's out there that should have been paid or will need to be 00:03:21.228 --> 00:03:27.598 - paid. I don't know that that will actually tell you that though, because sometimes projects either finish 00:03:27.598 --> 00:03:33.787 - up early or they may not spend all the funding. That's a lot of our federal projects. If there's money 00:03:33.787 --> 00:03:38.654 - left, then it's generally the reason. Yeah, many of the encumbrances will lapse. 00:03:39.298 --> 00:03:46.995 - Yeah, because of the calendar year and the way the projects go. Okay, thank you. Other questions? 00:03:46.995 --> 00:03:55.006 - Seeing none, is there a motion to approve? So moved. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor 00:03:55.006 --> 00:04:03.646 - of approval for the claims register for March 13th, 2026 indicate by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. 00:04:05.314 --> 00:04:12.703 - Claims register is approved. We'll move now to the payroll register for March 20th, 2026. Are there 00:04:12.703 --> 00:04:20.165 - any questions? Move approval for payroll March 20th, 2026. Second. It's been moved and seconded. All 00:04:20.165 --> 00:04:27.998 - those in favor of approval indicate by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. And that payroll register 00:04:27.998 --> 00:04:33.022 - is approved. We'll go now to reports. Is there a director's report? 00:04:33.506 --> 00:04:40.927 - Well, I'd like to touch on a few things today. As you guys are aware, we've been working through the 00:04:40.927 --> 00:04:48.347 - Hopewell PUD process. And there's a number of proposed reasonable conditions that are out there that 00:04:48.347 --> 00:04:55.988 - impact the project. But we really need to have some discussions related to the trade-offs. I do believe 00:04:55.988 --> 00:05:03.262 - that there is, at this time, a deliberation session that's scheduled next week to go through that. 00:05:03.490 --> 00:05:11.088 - I also want to call attention to some of the civil work that's being done right now. So civil work to 00:05:11.088 --> 00:05:18.686 - date has been primarily to get to the point of the primary plat filing. And today was the deadline to 00:05:18.686 --> 00:05:26.433 - file for the May Plan Commission meeting to get that plat. Based on the number of reasonable conditions 00:05:26.433 --> 00:05:27.774 - that are present, 00:05:28.002 --> 00:05:36.127 - I'm not sure if you guys would want to continue moving that ball forward. There is some risk associated 00:05:36.127 --> 00:05:44.174 - with that. If council is to change the site map or how that plot is handled, we run the risk of really 00:05:44.174 --> 00:05:52.065 - duplicating work and paying for something twice, right? So we're really rapidly running out of time. 00:05:52.065 --> 00:05:54.174 - We do have the ability to. 00:05:54.978 --> 00:06:01.790 - hold that from the May agenda at this time. I really need your input. I do think that the downside of 00:06:01.790 --> 00:06:08.803 - that is that if we're not able to get to plan commission for this plaque by June, there is almost little 00:06:08.803 --> 00:06:15.615 - to no hope for actually getting some homes constructed. And if you remember, part of the plan for the 00:06:15.615 --> 00:06:22.294 - Hopewell South PUD was to do this lot line adjustment so that we did have some houses coming out of 00:06:22.294 --> 00:06:24.030 - the ground yet this year. 00:06:24.706 --> 00:06:32.373 - I'm not sure that it looks promising at this point. So I'm looking to you guys for direction. If you 00:06:32.373 --> 00:06:40.039 - want to move forward with the May plan, commission, primary plat, understanding that that is a giant 00:06:40.039 --> 00:06:47.858 - risk, that we don't know what the final plat is at this time, as we're still talking to council. There 00:06:47.858 --> 00:06:54.462 - are benefits and problems with that. Feedback for Ann or questions? Well, I think the. 00:06:55.362 --> 00:07:04.148 - risk outweighs the benefit. We have soaking a tremendous amount of money into this project, particularly 00:07:04.148 --> 00:07:12.766 - in engineering, and the redo part of it just doesn't seem to be fiscally responsible. And judging from 00:07:12.766 --> 00:07:21.970 - all of the council comments, I can't believe that we get through this without some kind of a plot adjustment. 00:07:21.970 --> 00:07:24.062 - I would agree with that. 00:07:25.410 --> 00:07:31.892 - When we look at missing the May deadline, what's that going to put us to timeframe? Is that a 30, 60, 00:07:31.892 --> 00:07:38.756 - 90 day? Well, we're definitely 30 days delayed. But if anybody that works in the building world understands 00:07:38.756 --> 00:07:45.238 - that if we start to get into a frozen ground situation, then the opportunities to get a foundation in 00:07:45.238 --> 00:07:48.606 - are limited. So right now, that's part of the issue. 00:07:48.738 --> 00:07:54.340 - Cuz you have to go through the primary plan, you have to go through the secondary plan. We need to file 00:07:54.340 --> 00:07:59.780 - for building permits. We still need to get an operating account. So the more that this gets delayed, 00:07:59.780 --> 00:08:05.598 - the less likely we're gonna see anything until 2027. So from a civil standpoint that we've already engaged. 00:08:05.794 --> 00:08:11.974 - we can have the ability based upon how it was put forward to pause at any particular time. Correct. 00:08:11.974 --> 00:08:18.217 - That was one of the caveats that we had approved that contract with. And Kendall would have loved to 00:08:18.217 --> 00:08:24.397 - be here tonight, but he couldn't be. So I'm hoping to relay that message that we really are running 00:08:24.397 --> 00:08:31.134 - out of civil work to do. And we may want to trigger that pause until we come to some negotiation with those. 00:08:33.570 --> 00:08:41.012 - the way we're set up, it may be a timing standpoint getting building permits, but at this present moment 00:08:41.012 --> 00:08:48.170 - in order to be able to be fiscally responsible, instead of time sensitive, this is gonna be our best 00:08:48.170 --> 00:08:55.398 - bet to put it off for. Do we get our reasonable considerations reviewed with the council? I think so, 00:08:55.398 --> 00:08:58.942 - and I think, I would hate to waste money and time 00:08:59.234 --> 00:09:05.400 - by continuing down a path that we know is not going to happen at this point. Right now, we don't know 00:09:05.400 --> 00:09:11.506 - what's going to happen. So I think we need to spend a little more time figuring out those reasonable 00:09:11.506 --> 00:09:18.034 - conditions and what we're OK with, and really what that means to the overall site plan, what the trade-offs 00:09:18.034 --> 00:09:24.321 - are. So those conversations need to be ongoing. But I do think the physically responsible thing at this 00:09:24.321 --> 00:09:28.734 - point is to pause the civil contract and to pull the May plan commission 00:09:29.058 --> 00:09:38.711 - But that's up to you guys. I think you have a consensus. I think you do. Thank you. Thank you. 00:09:38.711 --> 00:09:48.974 - Anything else? There's a lot, but no, we're good for a moment. I will say that we are going to table 00:09:48.974 --> 00:09:58.526 - one of your agenda items tonight. So resolution 2623 will be tabled for this meeting. Got it. 00:10:01.282 --> 00:10:10.524 - An illegal report. Dana. Yes, I'll just add on just a little bit regarding Hopewell South and the proposed 00:10:10.524 --> 00:10:19.335 - reasonable conditions. I know you don't want to get into a legal lecture at this point in time. I was 00:10:19.335 --> 00:10:28.664 - hoping you would. I'm sorry? Oh, you want one? OK. But I just wanted to explain that some of the discussion 00:10:28.664 --> 00:10:30.046 - has been about, 00:10:30.210 --> 00:10:41.364 - whether some of the proposals are proposals to the amendment, to the legislation, and what proposals 00:10:41.364 --> 00:10:52.739 - are conditions and what proposals are reasonable. Council's temporary attorney uses a very broad brush 00:10:52.739 --> 00:10:57.598 - in painting what a reasonable condition is. 00:10:57.890 --> 00:11:07.247 - And I believe overlaps into what would be amendments, which are not allowed by statute. But reasonable 00:11:07.247 --> 00:11:16.331 - conditions are, which I agree with. And there's some of the proposed reasonable conditions that are 00:11:16.331 --> 00:11:26.142 - contrary to state law in other areas. But I believe that the best foot forward is trying to collaborate and 00:11:26.434 --> 00:11:35.641 - look at these reasonable conditions or their proposals and determine what effect they have, what trade-off 00:11:35.641 --> 00:11:44.417 - there might be, and what just is the best process going forward. And I'm happy as we go along in that 00:11:44.417 --> 00:11:53.107 - process and talk about if you have concerns about one or not. Now, if it's an amendment, the RDC can 00:11:53.107 --> 00:11:54.398 - agree to that. 00:11:54.818 --> 00:12:03.447 - And it does not have to go back to planning commission to go back to council and be accepted. If it's 00:12:03.447 --> 00:12:11.907 - a reasonable condition, the council can simply impose it on the PUD and you can't have a say in it. 00:12:11.907 --> 00:12:20.451 - It is what it is, and that's what it is. So it's just which way through the process it would go. And 00:12:20.451 --> 00:12:24.766 - so I'd be happy to assist with that along the way. 00:12:25.058 --> 00:12:32.753 - But that'll just be a part of it that I think we need to keep our eyes on as it goes through, just to 00:12:32.753 --> 00:12:41.050 - make sure that everything's done as perfectly as it can be. Just to clarify, make sure 100%, the negotiations 00:12:41.050 --> 00:12:48.745 - regards to the RDC as a whole, looking at reasonable conditions or even amendments has the ability to 00:12:48.745 --> 00:12:52.894 - work with the council in order to get some resolution. 00:12:53.538 --> 00:13:03.200 - Yes, and the biggest case is called Misty Woods, as most of us refer to it. And Misty Woods doesn't 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:13.152 - allow amendments to a zoning map change, which that's what changing to a PUD is. And to me, the entire 00:13:13.152 --> 00:13:22.814 - ordinance of the PUD is the map change. And so therefore, but the court said that if the petitioner 00:13:22.914 --> 00:13:33.149 - the RDC agrees with the amendment or works with the council and agrees to an amendment that it can move 00:13:33.149 --> 00:13:42.991 - forward without amendment, without any further action of the rent commission or whatever. And if it 00:13:42.991 --> 00:13:52.734 - is a reasonable condition, the council can just impose it. But it seems like from what it appeared 00:13:52.994 --> 00:14:01.280 - the meetings with the council and the mayor's comments that everybody would like to work together and 00:14:01.280 --> 00:14:09.809 - move forward collaboratively to try to get a good product. Thank you. Anything else? Dan? No, I'm sorry. 00:14:09.809 --> 00:14:18.095 - That will be it. Okay. Treasurer's report. Jeff? Yes. Excuse me. Before you leave that topic, are you 00:14:18.095 --> 00:14:22.238 - taking public comments? No, not during the report. 00:14:22.338 --> 00:14:29.259 - And I apologize right after I give mine, I'm gonna have to zip up to the airport, so thank you for letting 00:14:29.259 --> 00:14:35.985 - me start right now. I have a report on the 4th Street parking garage. Believe it or not, the 4th Street 00:14:35.985 --> 00:14:43.294 - garage has reached its five-year mark and requires preventative maintenance services to extend its service life. 00:14:43.810 --> 00:14:49.197 - So following an assessment conducted by parking services in collaboration with the engineering firm 00:14:49.197 --> 00:14:54.854 - CE Solutions, the recommended approach focuses on low-level preventative maintenance along with targeted 00:14:54.854 --> 00:15:00.618 - repairs to the drainage system. So to preserve the integrity of the concrete, waterproofing is recommended 00:15:00.618 --> 00:15:05.790 - for the most heavily trafficked levels, specifically levels one, two, three, and the roof deck. 00:15:06.274 --> 00:15:11.942 - This measure will help prevent water infiltration and reduce long-term deterioration. By the way, there's 00:15:11.942 --> 00:15:17.557 - good news at the end of this, so don't think there's going to be a good time. Additionally, the drainage 00:15:17.557 --> 00:15:23.172 - system is currently underperforming due to insufficient pipe slope, which limits the ability of sediment 00:15:23.172 --> 00:15:28.573 - to flow through the system. As a result, drains have become clogged, leading to water pooling on the 00:15:28.573 --> 00:15:32.798 - concrete surfaces, which you can clearly see in the garage after a large rain. 00:15:33.538 --> 00:15:38.897 - Addressing the slope and clearing blockages will restore proper drainage function. There's also some 00:15:38.897 --> 00:15:44.308 - isolated areas exhibiting minor cracking and spalling. These should be repaired using epoxy injection 00:15:44.308 --> 00:15:49.932 - to prevent further degradation. By addressing these low to medium priority maintenance items proactively, 00:15:49.932 --> 00:15:54.654 - the overall lifespan of the garage can be extended while minimizing future repair costs. 00:15:54.882 --> 00:16:01.361 - So you'll remember that the construction of the garage was paid for by two TIF bonds, 2019 TIF revenue 00:16:01.361 --> 00:16:08.280 - bonds for the public component of the garage and 2019 TIF revenue taxable bonds for the commercial component. 00:16:08.280 --> 00:16:14.570 - Parking Services, who maintains the garage, is intending to use the remaining funds in the 2019 TIF 00:16:14.570 --> 00:16:20.734 - revenue taxable bonds proceeds fund, which is Fund 4657 for the record, to support these repairs. 00:16:20.866 --> 00:16:27.331 - Currently $441,894 remains and parking services estimates that this amount should cover the engineering 00:16:27.331 --> 00:16:33.609 - and repairs. Engineering should be around $35,000. The waterproofing will be the big ticket item and 00:16:33.609 --> 00:16:39.949 - will be around $200,000 and the rest is minor repairs. Legal has already run this by bond council and 00:16:39.949 --> 00:16:46.352 - determined this is an appropriate use of the bond proceeds. Further, the 2019 TIF revenue taxable bond 00:16:46.352 --> 00:16:48.030 - has already been paid off. 00:16:48.482 --> 00:16:54.501 - No approval of the RDC is required for these repairs, but we wanted to make sure you were informed as 00:16:54.501 --> 00:17:00.578 - the owners of the garage. If you're interested, we can ask parking services to provide an after action 00:17:00.578 --> 00:17:06.656 - report after the repairs are completed. And I can try to answer any questions you might have, although 00:17:06.656 --> 00:17:12.557 - I'd probably have to come back with any technical questions about the garage repairs. Questions for 00:17:12.557 --> 00:17:16.510 - Jeff. Are their estimates based on actual quotes, or are they just 00:17:17.122 --> 00:17:24.767 - They are based on analysis from an engineering firm that is used to working with companies providing 00:17:24.767 --> 00:17:32.337 - these repairs. Are they going to get quotes? I'm sorry? Are they going to get quotes? They will get 00:17:32.337 --> 00:17:39.982 - quotes before they proceed, yes. What I'm interested in knowing is, so far it's kind of an estimate, 00:17:39.982 --> 00:17:45.054 - and it's one thing to have the cash available, it'll be another if 00:17:45.858 --> 00:17:52.897 - They're the overruns, and then they're coming back for more money. And so I'd like to head that off 00:17:52.897 --> 00:17:59.936 - and know that there's some concrete numbers that they're working from. So what is the request? They 00:17:59.936 --> 00:18:07.468 - are planning to proceed with doing the engineering and getting quotes for the repairs. That's the request. 00:18:07.468 --> 00:18:14.648 - You would just like to know to receive copies of the quotes that they have. Well, as long as they can 00:18:14.648 --> 00:18:15.774 - stay within the 00:18:16.066 --> 00:18:23.996 - the budget number that's available to them, I don't need to see the quotes. They're well aware of the... 00:18:23.996 --> 00:18:31.623 - It's just that when they don't, we don't want to see them. Yeah, I mean, the amount that's available 00:18:31.623 --> 00:18:39.326 - in the bond is the amount that's available, and we're assured that it's more than sufficient to cover 00:18:39.326 --> 00:18:41.214 - the cost of the repairs. 00:18:42.882 --> 00:18:48.967 - So we just need to say it quoted out so we know that we're not going to come back with any additional. 00:18:48.967 --> 00:18:54.875 - I will make sure ParkingSend sends you any additional information that they get during the process. 00:18:54.875 --> 00:19:01.137 - They've already done their evaluation. We've got a five-year-old garage that's supposed to last 50 years, 00:19:01.137 --> 00:19:07.518 - and we're five years in and doing repairs. And their engineering services company says that it is important 00:19:07.518 --> 00:19:10.590 - to do this work to make sure we're actually able to 00:19:10.818 --> 00:19:16.877 - that the garage lasts as long as it's supposed to do. And the after-action report is simply a report 00:19:16.877 --> 00:19:22.996 - back saying the work was done, it came in under budget. Is that a particularly detailed? No, that was 00:19:22.996 --> 00:19:29.175 - a suggestion I made just in case you were interested in hearing the results. I think we probably would 00:19:29.175 --> 00:19:35.174 - like to get the after-action report. And you say the bond is paid off. The bond is paid off. That's 00:19:35.174 --> 00:19:36.254 - a good news part. 00:19:36.770 --> 00:19:42.725 - Well, just that there's already money there also. Nobody's here asking for you for more money. We're 00:19:42.725 --> 00:19:48.680 - saying let's spend money that was already raised for the construction and maintenance of the garage, 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:54.812 - spending it on construction and maintenance of the garage. Thank you for that good news. Anything else? 00:19:54.812 --> 00:20:01.061 - Any other questions for Jeff? OK. Thank you very much. You travel safely. Be careful. Thank you. Business 00:20:01.061 --> 00:20:06.014 - development updates. Jane is at the airport. Jane is online, also from the airport. 00:20:06.978 --> 00:20:14.184 - Yeah, we're all converging tonight. No business development update. Okay, thank you. That takes us to 00:20:14.184 --> 00:20:21.248 - new business, in particular resolution 2622, approval of a bill of sale and assignment with Merrill 00:20:21.248 --> 00:20:28.595 - Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Smith, Incorporated, Care of Bank of America, National Association. Who will 00:20:28.595 --> 00:20:30.078 - be speaking to this? 00:20:31.874 --> 00:20:39.069 - I'm happy to speak to it, or Dana, if you'd like to take it, it's up to you. Essentially, when they 00:20:39.069 --> 00:20:46.264 - moved out, Merrill Lynch left a significant amount of furniture and equipment, all very nice. I did 00:20:46.264 --> 00:20:54.106 - a walkthrough with them. They left the unit in really nice condition. But this is just a sale and assignment 00:20:54.106 --> 00:21:00.222 - to cover their bases of that list of items. And I do believe it's in your exhibit A. 00:21:00.418 --> 00:21:09.394 - that lists all of the items that they've left behind, which include U-shaped desks, overhead cabinets. 00:21:09.394 --> 00:21:18.456 - There's a really nice coffee maker in there. There's flat-screen TV. I mean, they left some really nice 00:21:18.456 --> 00:21:27.606 - equipment. So does the RDC actually own this? They do. So we own artificial plants. We now have a space. 00:21:27.606 --> 00:21:30.046 - You do. They are very nice. 00:21:30.274 --> 00:21:37.332 - For my own knowledge, what happens to this property now? Right. That will be up to you guys to decide 00:21:37.332 --> 00:21:44.528 - at this point. Well, what are the options for that? That's a very good question. I think at this point, 00:21:44.528 --> 00:21:51.586 - we're leaving it in the suite if they can be reutilized, but. Right. We probably should see if it can 00:21:51.586 --> 00:21:59.198 - be utilized for whatever future functions are there. If not, we could look at alternatives and surplusing it. 00:21:59.682 --> 00:22:08.209 - You know, either selling it or transferring it to another government entity, or a 501C3 entity, or there 00:22:08.209 --> 00:22:16.412 - are different avenues selling it. You know, in the open market, there's a variety of things that can 00:22:16.412 --> 00:22:24.776 - be done with it and surplus it. Are there city departments that would like to look at moving into that 00:22:24.776 --> 00:22:27.294 - space given the need to expand 00:22:27.682 --> 00:22:35.921 - My understanding that there is a use study going on. So conceivably they could. Perhaps in the future. 00:22:35.921 --> 00:22:44.160 - It's hard to say at this point. Basically, this is on your agenda tonight. The tenants that have moved 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:52.638 - out would really feel more comfortable having something signed acknowledging that you guys are in receipt 00:22:52.638 --> 00:22:55.518 - of these. We're in receipt of those 00:22:55.682 --> 00:23:03.196 - Items that they left so that they understand that they no longer have any additional liability for that. 00:23:03.196 --> 00:23:10.423 - At this point, it'll become up to the RDC to make the decision of what to do from a dispossession of 00:23:10.423 --> 00:23:17.651 - them or a realization of that space and the equipment that was left. Correct. Items of value and the 00:23:17.651 --> 00:23:21.086 - stuff we've got to get rid of. Other questions? 00:23:25.122 --> 00:23:37.813 - Is there any public comment on resolution 2622, either here or online? Seeing none, let's come back. 00:23:37.813 --> 00:23:47.614 - For resolution 2622. May I ask what that resolution, does that pertain to the 00:23:48.162 --> 00:23:54.772 - It is the approval of the bill of sale and assignment with Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Smith, 00:23:54.772 --> 00:24:01.316 - Incorporated, Care of Bank of America, National Association. I'm sorry, could you repeat? It is the 00:24:01.316 --> 00:24:08.057 - approval of a bill of sale and assignment with Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Smith, Incorporated, 00:24:08.057 --> 00:24:14.078 - Care of Bank of America, National Association. They're going to purchase city property? No. 00:24:14.178 --> 00:24:21.922 - No. They're leaving their office stuff. They vacated jobs for us. They vacated and leaving their office 00:24:21.922 --> 00:24:29.442 - stuff. And again, this is resolution 2622. Do you have comments on resolution 2622? Yes, I would say 00:24:29.442 --> 00:24:36.888 - that if the city were to take possession of these material items, that they should be offered up to 00:24:36.888 --> 00:24:42.398 - the general public. Thank you very much. My name is Joe Davis. Thank you. 00:24:43.778 --> 00:24:52.160 - Are there any comments online? I'm not seeing any. OK. Let's come back to the commissioners. Are there 00:24:52.160 --> 00:25:00.379 - any further comments or questions? And if not, may I have a motion on resolution 2622? Move approval 00:25:00.379 --> 00:25:08.598 - of resolution 2622. Second. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. 00:25:08.598 --> 00:25:12.830 - Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. That passes. And then? 00:25:13.058 --> 00:25:19.920 - You indicated that we're tabling 2623. We are tabling 2623. OK. That takes us to resolution 2624, approval 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:26.846 - of conveyance of Convention Center parking lots to the Monroe County Capital Improvement Board of Managers. 00:25:26.846 --> 00:25:33.387 - Who will be speaking to this? Jane is going to introduce this topic this evening. Jane? Hi, everyone. 00:25:33.387 --> 00:25:40.185 - I'll introduce this. And then legal can obviously answer some questions. And then I believe Mr. Whitehart 00:25:40.185 --> 00:25:42.878 - and Mr. Whitclad are in the room as well. 00:25:43.394 --> 00:25:51.579 - So resolution 2624 pertains to the transfer of real property to the Monroe County Capital Improvement 00:25:51.579 --> 00:25:59.604 - Board from the Bloomington Redevelopment Commission for use relating to the Convention Center. This 00:25:59.604 --> 00:26:07.629 - property that would be conveyed tonight if approved is only parking lots that are currently in use. 00:26:07.629 --> 00:26:13.086 - I want to say for the public, this does not pertain to any property 00:26:13.282 --> 00:26:21.744 - that has buildings on it. And this represents, other than Bunger and Robertson, the bulk of the properties 00:26:21.744 --> 00:26:29.336 - near the Convention Center that the Redevelopment Commission owns. So just for a little detail, 00:26:29.336 --> 00:26:37.640 - these parcels, all three parcels were transferred to the RDC at different times. The first parcel, which 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:42.622 - is west of the Beeline Trail, apologies for the airport noise, 00:26:43.074 --> 00:26:51.751 - which is west of the Beeline Trail, was transferred to the Bloomington Municipal Facilities Court in 00:26:51.751 --> 00:27:00.342 - 91, and then to the RDC in 2023. The property was promised for $1. The other two parcels are south, 00:27:00.342 --> 00:27:09.534 - two lots south of the Convention Center. There's one lot, anyway, two lots south of the Convention Center. 00:27:09.698 --> 00:27:16.282 - and were transferred to the RDC in 1995 from the Bloomington Advancement Corporation. The RDC also purchased 00:27:16.282 --> 00:27:22.504 - these parcels for $1 each. All three parcels currently serve as parking lots for the convention center 00:27:22.504 --> 00:27:28.062 - and do not have any structures on them. They have been used for the convention center since 00:27:28.062 --> 00:27:33.982 - their acquisition. And for this reason, staff recommends to the redevelopment commission via 2624 00:27:34.146 --> 00:27:40.669 - that they be transferred to the Monroe CIV, which is best positioned to continue using them for the 00:27:40.669 --> 00:27:47.192 - convention center and its expansion. There is an agreement in place with the current hotel operator 00:27:47.192 --> 00:27:53.845 - to lease 20 parking spaces. The lease transfers with the deed can be terminated with 180 days notice. 00:27:53.845 --> 00:27:59.390 - With that, I'd be happy to take questions or have my colleagues also take questions. 00:28:01.282 --> 00:28:09.647 - Mr. Whitehart and Mr. Whitlatch, did you have comments or things to add? No. OK. Questions? 00:28:09.647 --> 00:28:19.102 - Just to verify, this is something that was done through a previous bond issue with Wilmington Municipal 00:28:19.102 --> 00:28:28.194 - Facilities Corporation that at the end transferred it to the Redevelopment Commission. Yes. The two 00:28:28.194 --> 00:28:30.558 - parcels earlier this year 00:28:30.690 --> 00:28:41.321 - that we transferred or accepted the transfer from the Bloomington Municipal Facilities Corporation that 00:28:41.321 --> 00:28:51.748 - were from a bond that was used for a bonding that was two of the parcels. There are two other parcels 00:28:51.748 --> 00:28:59.006 - to the south of that that I notified you about earlier that, by email, 00:28:59.458 --> 00:29:08.029 - said it was owned by the city of Bloomington. But when I went back to the 95 and pulled the 1995 beads, 00:29:08.029 --> 00:29:17.095 - it was actually city of Bloomington, Department of Redevelopment. So it's owned by the RDC. And so therefore, 00:29:17.095 --> 00:29:26.078 - those two parcels were part of those properties as well that are used for the convention center parking lot. 00:29:26.370 --> 00:29:36.144 - and have been used for the Convention Center parking lot, and have been requested by the CIB to be part 00:29:36.144 --> 00:29:45.542 - of the parcels transferred to them. So those are included in the resolution. And then as Jane said, 00:29:45.542 --> 00:29:54.940 - there is that lease. There's two ways to, one is to not terminate it, but change locations of where 00:29:54.940 --> 00:29:56.350 - they can park. 00:29:56.738 --> 00:30:08.865 - That 60-day notice terminating the lease is 180 days notice There's also and it's included as well in 00:30:08.865 --> 00:30:20.755 - the resolution attachments that when seminary was developed lot 27 Which is on the north part where 00:30:20.755 --> 00:30:26.462 - the lots that we talked about from BMFC earlier 00:30:26.658 --> 00:30:40.025 - was in lot 28, where the other two that thought belonged to the city of Bloomington were, are separated 00:30:40.025 --> 00:30:53.007 - by a right-of-way. If you extrapolate that right-of-way to the east and west, as we move forward. So 00:30:53.007 --> 00:30:56.606 - the parcels we talked about 00:30:56.866 --> 00:31:04.608 - from GMFC is this parcel here and this one here. This is owned by somebody else. These two on GIS on 00:31:04.608 --> 00:31:12.274 - the property report card all said it was owned by the city of Bloomington. But again, it's owned by 00:31:12.274 --> 00:31:19.940 - the city of Bloomington Department of Redevelopment, so it's owned by the RCPC. There is a right of 00:31:19.940 --> 00:31:26.686 - way right here that this was part of Seminary Lot 28. This was part of Seminary Lot 27. 00:31:27.490 --> 00:31:37.614 - And this was originally a right-of-way that was platted when seminary was platted. This became West 00:31:37.614 --> 00:31:47.941 - Smith Avenue here and here. You've got the B line coming through here. This was just utilized as part 00:31:47.941 --> 00:31:55.838 - of the parking lots, but it's never been technically a part of either parcel. 00:31:56.034 --> 00:32:03.894 - So depending on what further use the CIB may have with that, they may need to vacate that. They may 00:32:03.894 --> 00:32:12.225 - use it as a drive or something. It just depends on what their future use might be. But they can determine 00:32:12.225 --> 00:32:20.164 - that as they determine what their plans are going to be. So for tonight, you're simply transferring, 00:32:20.164 --> 00:32:24.094 - if you move forward, transferring these four lots 00:32:24.322 --> 00:32:34.889 - over to the CIB so that they can continue. Now look. Point out those four lots again. Okay. Those four 00:32:34.889 --> 00:32:45.559 - lots are this blue. That is, was from BMFC. This small little lot here. No, not that one. The one below 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.150 - it. I'm so sorry. This little one. 00:32:52.194 --> 00:33:00.067 - And then these two lines here. And they show up under the same parcel because since they were the same 00:33:00.067 --> 00:33:08.017 - ownership, back a few years ago, they were condensing, trying to get less parcel numbers at the county. 00:33:08.017 --> 00:33:15.661 - And so they condense it under one parcel number, but it's two separate tracks of land. And so those 00:33:15.661 --> 00:33:20.094 - are the other two tracks of land under one parcel number. 00:33:21.698 --> 00:33:31.352 - So essentially, you are cleaning up something that should have happened about 20 years ago. Yes, yes. 00:33:31.352 --> 00:33:41.007 - It's cleaning it back up from what I understood from Jane's work that it believed they were purchased 00:33:41.007 --> 00:33:51.134 - for $1. And they were supposed to be used for convention center use. I will say that it was discussed that 00:33:51.650 --> 00:34:02.160 - It was important from when we discussed this earlier in year about those parcels from BMFC that the 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:12.671 - RDC wanted to make sure that this property was used for Convention Center purposes and so therefore 00:34:12.671 --> 00:34:14.142 - let me put up 00:34:23.874 --> 00:34:31.707 - itself there is a condition subsequent. Now courts aren't happy with these so they have to be very well 00:34:31.707 --> 00:34:39.313 - laid out and so the condition subsequent is that the real estate herein shall be used solely for the 00:34:39.313 --> 00:34:46.844 - purpose of directly supporting the Bloomington Convention Center by used as a host hotel parking or 00:34:46.844 --> 00:34:53.246 - other such direct support should the real estate herein fail to be used for the same 00:34:53.698 --> 00:35:01.465 - or be under active development for the same, which could be a variety of ways, for a period of more 00:35:01.465 --> 00:35:09.387 - than two years, the real estate shall revert back to the city of Bloomington Redevelopment Commission 00:35:09.387 --> 00:35:17.464 - in fee simple. So the whole purpose of the CIB asking for it is for the convention center. I know there 00:35:17.464 --> 00:35:23.134 - was concern of what about if it's used for something else down the road. 00:35:23.362 --> 00:35:31.648 - This allows it to come back to the RDC if it was. It wouldn't be allowed to be sold off to the higher 00:35:31.648 --> 00:35:40.177 - bidder for use for student housing or something like that or something that you didn't want to go there. 00:35:40.177 --> 00:35:48.382 - It could come back to the RDC so it could be used for redevelopment purposes. Obviously, the chances 00:35:48.382 --> 00:35:51.550 - of that happening are extremely small. 00:35:52.066 --> 00:35:58.691 - to address the concern that was had that, you know, I put that in there for your interest. So the base, 00:35:58.691 --> 00:36:05.316 - what we're looking at is transferring something back to the CIB that was always intended to be utilized 00:36:05.316 --> 00:36:11.940 - for a convention center basis, of which the bonds were paid off, RDC assumed it from BMFC for a dollar. 00:36:11.940 --> 00:36:18.438 - It has a value, but the primary value will go to the CIB for the benefit of the convention center and 00:36:18.438 --> 00:36:20.094 - the community as a whole. 00:36:20.226 --> 00:36:28.380 - And that clause just says what the conventions are. Thank you, Dan. Additional questions from commissioners? 00:36:28.380 --> 00:36:36.161 - Nothing? OK. Does the CIB want? I'm sorry? Does the CIB want? Well, let's go to public comment. I know. 00:36:36.161 --> 00:36:43.642 - So is there any public comment either online? Please use the raise hand signal or you're in person. 00:36:43.642 --> 00:36:45.662 - So yes, we have a comment. 00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:55.156 - Yes, my name is Joe Davis, and I want to point out the fact that this is the people's property, though 00:36:55.156 --> 00:37:03.783 - it is a parking lot, and though it was only purchased for $1. There are higher and better uses for the 00:37:03.783 --> 00:37:12.241 - public than providing unnecessary parking or unnecessary use by the CIV, because we do not need this 00:37:12.241 --> 00:37:16.094 - expanded convention center. We have many more 00:37:16.578 --> 00:37:24.880 - issues where valuable properties held by both the county and the city, which are located downtown and 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:33.263 - no more land is being created downtown. It's all that there is. We need to reserve this land for a new 00:37:33.263 --> 00:37:41.564 - jail justice center, co-location with the courts. We need this land for housing. We need this land to 00:37:41.564 --> 00:37:46.366 - serve the community. A hotel does not serve the community. 00:37:46.594 --> 00:37:54.889 - It serves those who come into the community. The convention center is designed to be a moneymaker, a 00:37:54.889 --> 00:38:03.349 - loss leader, mind you, a loss leader that is going to benefit only a handful of players. Those are the 00:38:03.349 --> 00:38:11.644 - hoteliers, the restaurateurs, those who are making a dollar. The average Joe like you and me are not 00:38:11.644 --> 00:38:15.422 - going to benefit at all. I strongly encourage 00:38:15.746 --> 00:38:24.726 - the RDC to not transfer these parking lot properties to the CIB. Thank you very much. Thank you for 00:38:24.726 --> 00:38:34.244 - your comments. Are there other comments here in person? Seeing none, let's come back to the Redevelopment 00:38:34.244 --> 00:38:43.134 - Commission. Oh, my fault. What did I miss? No, I didn't see any hands raised. I don't see any. OK. 00:38:44.450 --> 00:38:52.633 - All right, seeing no further comments, let's come back to commissioners. Any additional questions or 00:38:52.633 --> 00:39:00.411 - comments? And if not, may I have a motion? I'll move approval of resolution 26-24. I'll second. 00:39:00.411 --> 00:39:08.837 - Thank you. You have a motion and a second. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? 00:39:08.837 --> 00:39:10.782 - Thank you. That passes. 00:39:16.002 --> 00:39:23.154 - And that takes us to resolution 2625, approval of supplement number three to construction engineering 00:39:23.154 --> 00:39:30.446 - contract for the beeline trail and multi-use path. And welcome. Yep. Good evening. Roy Dayton with City 00:39:30.446 --> 00:39:37.598 - Engineering Department. This is our beeline construction project that's nearing its end. We have just 00:39:37.598 --> 00:39:44.750 - a little bit of construction left to be wanted. Some soft work and some fencing to put up in the last 00:39:44.750 --> 00:39:45.662 - inspections. 00:39:46.146 --> 00:39:52.629 - And then there's the paperwork phase. It's a federal funded project, so there's a lot of paperwork that 00:39:52.629 --> 00:39:59.238 - has to be submitted to the state or anything like that. Through the project, we hired Crossroad engineers 00:39:59.238 --> 00:40:05.472 - to do our construction inspection for the project. Their contract has wound down. Some of that was, 00:40:05.472 --> 00:40:11.706 - we've had, this is a third supplement that we had done to the project. The first supplement did not 00:40:11.706 --> 00:40:13.950 - regard funding at all. It was just, 00:40:14.466 --> 00:40:22.309 - changing wage rates, but we did not change the notice to exceed amount on the project. The second supplement 00:40:22.309 --> 00:40:29.791 - was for $40,000, where we had added to the contract. And that was due to some environmental remediation 00:40:29.791 --> 00:40:37.202 - issues that we had on the project with one of the lots that we had to go through. It added some delays 00:40:37.202 --> 00:40:43.102 - to the project. That was to cover these delays. This last ask is for a supplement 00:40:43.266 --> 00:40:51.351 - or $15,000 just to give us enough hours on the contract just to wind it up down and get us 00:40:51.351 --> 00:41:00.236 - through completion. Thank you. All right, questions? We're down to paying for the paperwork. We are 00:41:00.236 --> 00:41:06.366 - down to paying for it, yes. OK. Thank you. OK. Additional questions? 00:41:09.250 --> 00:41:15.994 - Seeing none, let's go to public comment. If you are online, please feel welcome to use the raise hand 00:41:15.994 --> 00:41:22.738 - function. I see one, and then are there comments here in person? All right, let's do in person first, 00:41:22.738 --> 00:41:29.482 - then we'll do online. Hello, my name is Joe Davis, and as a user of the Beeline Trail, I have noticed 00:41:29.482 --> 00:41:36.094 - that even though there have been many improvements, the side access or the side that runs along the 00:41:36.094 --> 00:41:37.086 - paved surfaces 00:41:37.378 --> 00:41:46.130 - where quarter minus gravel is placed has been largely missing and making the area where joggers who 00:41:46.130 --> 00:41:54.969 - try to run on that gravel to reduce the impact on their knees and hips, where walkers walk along the 00:41:54.969 --> 00:42:03.896 - side of that, it also helps to provide a margin of safety from all the bicycles and the scooters that 00:42:03.896 --> 00:42:07.134 - are zipping up and down the beeline. 00:42:07.234 --> 00:42:15.434 - areas on either side of the paved surface need to go back and have more gravel placed and also to some 00:42:15.434 --> 00:42:23.634 - larger aggregate on its edge to prevent washout because when we have heavy rains those rains wash away 00:42:23.634 --> 00:42:31.038 - all of the quarter minus or the number 11 gravel and we are left with very unsafe conditions 00:42:31.138 --> 00:42:40.439 - along that beeline trail. I hope that this will be remedied and there will be a long ongoing maintenance 00:42:40.439 --> 00:42:49.652 - to make sure that this is kept safe and usable by the public. Thank you very much. Thank you. And let's 00:42:49.652 --> 00:42:56.030 - go to our online comments. Ms. Piedmont-Smith, welcome. Yes, thank you. 00:42:56.290 --> 00:43:04.009 - I really didn't have a comment on this, but I didn't see any other opportunity to just introduce myself 00:43:04.009 --> 00:43:11.877 - as the liaison from the Common Council to the RDC. You may have heard that the Common Council now assigns 00:43:11.877 --> 00:43:19.448 - council members to be liaisons to all of our resident board of commissioners. And so I am the liaison 00:43:19.448 --> 00:43:25.534 - to the RDC. That's why I've been working on Zoom meetings. And so if there's any, 00:43:26.050 --> 00:43:33.093 - a way that I can help with communication with the council. Just let me know. Thank you. Thank you, council 00:43:33.093 --> 00:43:39.741 - member Piedmont-Smith. I see no further comments, no further raised hands online. So let's come back 00:43:39.741 --> 00:43:46.784 - to commissioners for any additional comments or questions. Seeing none, may I have a motion for resolution 00:43:46.784 --> 00:43:53.762 - 2625? Move approval for 2625. Second. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor indicate by saying 00:43:53.762 --> 00:43:55.934 - aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? 00:43:56.930 --> 00:44:05.397 - Thank you. That passes. But is there any other business we have before us this evening? Or any good 00:44:05.397 --> 00:44:14.119 - news? Well, we did close the Trades District Hotel on the 25th. So we haven't had a meeting since that 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:22.586 - time. So that was something marked off of our to-do lists. But other than that, I do not. We are in 00:44:22.586 --> 00:44:26.142 - the trenches with the Hopewell South PUD. 00:44:26.370 --> 00:44:37.862 - We'll continue to work with you all. OK. I've got a question. Yes. This is to Christine. Is there any 00:44:37.862 --> 00:44:49.918 - way that you can send a consolidated packet and not, we don't have to hit multiple links? Can I or will I? 00:44:50.626 --> 00:44:57.299 - Where did IT land on that? If we say please? One of the things we have to be careful about is the end 00:44:57.299 --> 00:45:03.842 - of April is the deadline for compliance with the new federal regulation for accessibility, which is 00:45:03.842 --> 00:45:10.385 - why your packet flipped over. I don't have a problem doing what you're doing, but for our purposes. 00:45:10.385 --> 00:45:16.862 - Well, the one thing that we have to be careful about is creating inaccessible documents like PDFs. 00:45:17.442 --> 00:45:24.519 - Because as soon as we create it and send it out, we could get into trouble because that's what we're 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:31.877 - not supposed to do. So I don't know where IT landed on that particular. The issue is that once we create 00:45:31.877 --> 00:45:38.884 - a document and send it out, if somebody asks for that particular document in a public request, then 00:45:38.884 --> 00:45:46.101 - we don't have it as I can talk with that IT asset, maybe because we have it in a different form that's 00:45:46.101 --> 00:45:46.942 - accessible. 00:45:47.170 --> 00:45:54.886 - We could do that. So let me check with ITS to see if we could, as long as we have it in another version, 00:45:54.886 --> 00:46:02.675 - maybe we could. Maybe we can consolidate it into one. I'm not trying to undo what you're doing for public 00:46:02.675 --> 00:46:10.391 - access. We know. This is for commission access. We've received a lot of comments. This is not a workable 00:46:10.391 --> 00:46:15.902 - system. Yeah, and if it's allowed, I don't know. We don't have to do that. 00:46:16.546 --> 00:46:22.998 - We just need to make sure that we're allowed to do it. I don't want to cause problems for the city. 00:46:22.998 --> 00:46:29.644 - We can always go old school and just send it out on Friday at the bail. I'll have paper copies waiting 00:46:29.644 --> 00:46:36.096 - by the front door. Well, I mean, if you're doing it, if you're not sitting in an office environment 00:46:36.096 --> 00:46:42.677 - and you're trying to pull this up, it's impossible. If you're sitting at the airport trying to review 00:46:42.677 --> 00:46:43.774 - this, forget it. 00:46:44.482 --> 00:46:52.954 - This cover says nuts. Well, let us talk to IT and the other city departments and make sure that it's 00:46:52.954 --> 00:47:02.013 - OK. And if it is, we're more than happy to get you guys the packet that you like while still also producing 00:47:02.013 --> 00:47:09.982 - the accessible version. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Thank you. I understand. I'm sorry. 00:47:10.082 --> 00:47:16.737 - Anything else? With the good of the order? If not, may I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Second. 00:47:16.737 --> 00:47:23.919 - Second. Always the quickest. Oh, wait. We do have public comment. No public comment tonight? Well, typically 00:47:23.919 --> 00:47:30.771 - we do public comment on specific resolutions. Well, yeah. My name is Jeff Richardson. Thank you so much 00:47:30.771 --> 00:47:37.822 - for kicking off the questions about HOPA. And thank you for your response, Councilor Kerr, legal Councilor 00:47:37.822 --> 00:47:40.062 - Kerr. I just want to make a plea. 00:47:40.194 --> 00:47:46.838 - to all of you, and I did the same at the City Council, and to any other entity, to let's work together 00:47:46.838 --> 00:47:53.611 - to figure this out. I mean, I'm so concerned that we have a golden opportunity. Everyone I talk to wants 00:47:53.611 --> 00:48:00.256 - improved housing. Everyone I talk to wants to figure out how best we can do this. And I'm just saying, 00:48:00.256 --> 00:48:06.900 - and I think you suggested it, and your question was the catalyst for it, let's find a way where we can 00:48:06.900 --> 00:48:08.190 - find common ground. 00:48:08.450 --> 00:48:15.555 - and work through this. I know there'll be some people that will agree to disagree about certain paths 00:48:15.555 --> 00:48:22.869 - we may go down, but we can do this. And I just want to cheer you on along with the council and the mayor 00:48:22.869 --> 00:48:29.904 - and all the other stakeholders to make this happen. So that's my plea on a Monday evening. And we've 00:48:29.904 --> 00:48:36.382 - got until May 6 to make this happen. I think we've got a lot of time. And I'm, my, you know, 00:48:36.706 --> 00:48:43.778 - President Truman said, it's amazing how much you've accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit. 00:48:43.778 --> 00:48:51.258 - We can do this. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Richardson. I second Jeff's comments. So thank you, Mr. Richardson. 00:48:51.258 --> 00:48:58.466 - We can do this together, but the public needs to be involved, the public. This is not anything for behind 00:48:58.466 --> 00:49:06.014 - the scenes, closed doors. The public needs to have, to hear, they need transparency, and they need to be given 00:49:06.210 --> 00:49:14.563 - much opportunity for anything. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else for the good of the order? All right. 00:49:14.563 --> 00:49:22.518 - We've had a motion and a multiple seconds to adjourn. Is there any discussion? All right. All those 00:49:22.518 --> 00:49:26.814 - in favor? Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you, everyone.