Well, let's go to work. It is 5.02. Welcome, everyone. It is Monday, April 6. This is a meeting of the City of Bloomington Redevelopment Commission. We will begin with a roll call, please. Laura McRobbie, present. Randy Cassidy, present. John West, here. And Sue Scambillari, present. And among staff, please. Anna Killian Hanson, director. Christina Finley, hand department. Cameron Caswell, hand department. Jess McCamp, station controller. Roy Aitken, city engineering. Anna Dragovich, yes, D. And that's everyone. Thank you much. OK. Let's move first to approval of minutes for March 16, 2026. Are there any changes or corrections? If not, may I have a motion? Move to approve as a present. Second. It's been moved and seconded. We'll do, no, we actually can do a voice vote. All those in favor of approval indicate by saying aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? Thank you. That passes. And those are approved. So we'll go now to the claims register for March 13, 2026. Click. And are there any questions or comments from commissioners? One question on our lit for the First United Church. Which page, please? OK. Thank you. I apologize. Page 205. Okay, just curious on under our lit does that that just falls under previously presented situations that occurred in February or January for emergency shelter. Oh, the emergency shelter. That was actually an agreement that was executed in. the previous year and was encumbered. It was for the BSWRs, which is the Bloomington. Gosh, I keep the acronym escaping me now. Severe winter emergency. Thank you. Severe winter emergency response shelter. There are two churches that are in partnership for that. And this was just a grant for the reimbursement of paper materials and just used to the building for hosting it. One of the churches did not turn in their claim until late, which was actually this year. But thankfully, we had it encumbered. And there you go. That's where that came from. All the things were encumbered? Yeah. It was already allocated, yes. Are there any of the things that we look at that would have where the encumbrances are that people haven't? submitted like in a year or from our timeframe standpoint? Every year at the close of the year we have a responsibility to go through all of our open purchase orders and kind of touch base with at least in our department who has a project that's moving forward or which ones need to be closed out that haven't spent all their money so I think we've gone through that process to make sure that everything is active that is as far as the hand department goes I'm not sure what other processes are in place. And we do have the ability to retrieve any encumbrances. To run the report on the encumbrances so we know at least what's out there that should have been paid or will need to be paid. I don't know that that will actually tell you that though, because sometimes projects either finish up early or they may not spend all the funding. That's a lot of our federal projects. If there's money left, then it's generally the reason. Yeah, many of the encumbrances will lapse. Yeah, because of the calendar year and the way the projects go. Okay, thank you. Other questions? Seeing none, is there a motion to approve? So moved. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor of approval for the claims register for March 13th, 2026 indicate by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Claims register is approved. We'll move now to the payroll register for March 20th, 2026. Are there any questions? Move approval for payroll March 20th, 2026. Second. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor of approval indicate by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. And that payroll register is approved. We'll go now to reports. Is there a director's report? Well, I'd like to touch on a few things today. As you guys are aware, we've been working through the Hopewell PUD process. And there's a number of proposed reasonable conditions that are out there that impact the project. But we really need to have some discussions related to the trade-offs. I do believe that there is, at this time, a deliberation session that's scheduled next week to go through that. I also want to call attention to some of the civil work that's being done right now. So civil work to date has been primarily to get to the point of the primary plat filing. And today was the deadline to file for the May Plan Commission meeting to get that plat. Based on the number of reasonable conditions that are present, I'm not sure if you guys would want to continue moving that ball forward. There is some risk associated with that. If council is to change the site map or how that plot is handled, we run the risk of really duplicating work and paying for something twice, right? So we're really rapidly running out of time. We do have the ability to. hold that from the May agenda at this time. I really need your input. I do think that the downside of that is that if we're not able to get to plan commission for this plaque by June, there is almost little to no hope for actually getting some homes constructed. And if you remember, part of the plan for the Hopewell South PUD was to do this lot line adjustment so that we did have some houses coming out of the ground yet this year. I'm not sure that it looks promising at this point. So I'm looking to you guys for direction. If you want to move forward with the May plan, commission, primary plat, understanding that that is a giant risk, that we don't know what the final plat is at this time, as we're still talking to council. There are benefits and problems with that. Feedback for Ann or questions? Well, I think the. risk outweighs the benefit. We have soaking a tremendous amount of money into this project, particularly in engineering, and the redo part of it just doesn't seem to be fiscally responsible. And judging from all of the council comments, I can't believe that we get through this without some kind of a plot adjustment. I would agree with that. When we look at missing the May deadline, what's that going to put us to timeframe? Is that a 30, 60, 90 day? Well, we're definitely 30 days delayed. But if anybody that works in the building world understands that if we start to get into a frozen ground situation, then the opportunities to get a foundation in are limited. So right now, that's part of the issue. Cuz you have to go through the primary plan, you have to go through the secondary plan. We need to file for building permits. We still need to get an operating account. So the more that this gets delayed, the less likely we're gonna see anything until 2027. So from a civil standpoint that we've already engaged. we can have the ability based upon how it was put forward to pause at any particular time. Correct. That was one of the caveats that we had approved that contract with. And Kendall would have loved to be here tonight, but he couldn't be. So I'm hoping to relay that message that we really are running out of civil work to do. And we may want to trigger that pause until we come to some negotiation with those. the way we're set up, it may be a timing standpoint getting building permits, but at this present moment in order to be able to be fiscally responsible, instead of time sensitive, this is gonna be our best bet to put it off for. Do we get our reasonable considerations reviewed with the council? I think so, and I think, I would hate to waste money and time by continuing down a path that we know is not going to happen at this point. Right now, we don't know what's going to happen. So I think we need to spend a little more time figuring out those reasonable conditions and what we're OK with, and really what that means to the overall site plan, what the trade-offs are. So those conversations need to be ongoing. But I do think the physically responsible thing at this point is to pause the civil contract and to pull the May plan commission But that's up to you guys. I think you have a consensus. I think you do. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else? There's a lot, but no, we're good for a moment. I will say that we are going to table one of your agenda items tonight. So resolution 2623 will be tabled for this meeting. Got it. An illegal report. Dana. Yes, I'll just add on just a little bit regarding Hopewell South and the proposed reasonable conditions. I know you don't want to get into a legal lecture at this point in time. I was hoping you would. I'm sorry? Oh, you want one? OK. But I just wanted to explain that some of the discussion has been about, whether some of the proposals are proposals to the amendment, to the legislation, and what proposals are conditions and what proposals are reasonable. Council's temporary attorney uses a very broad brush in painting what a reasonable condition is. And I believe overlaps into what would be amendments, which are not allowed by statute. But reasonable conditions are, which I agree with. And there's some of the proposed reasonable conditions that are contrary to state law in other areas. But I believe that the best foot forward is trying to collaborate and look at these reasonable conditions or their proposals and determine what effect they have, what trade-off there might be, and what just is the best process going forward. And I'm happy as we go along in that process and talk about if you have concerns about one or not. Now, if it's an amendment, the RDC can agree to that. And it does not have to go back to planning commission to go back to council and be accepted. If it's a reasonable condition, the council can simply impose it on the PUD and you can't have a say in it. It is what it is, and that's what it is. So it's just which way through the process it would go. And so I'd be happy to assist with that along the way. But that'll just be a part of it that I think we need to keep our eyes on as it goes through, just to make sure that everything's done as perfectly as it can be. Just to clarify, make sure 100%, the negotiations regards to the RDC as a whole, looking at reasonable conditions or even amendments has the ability to work with the council in order to get some resolution. Yes, and the biggest case is called Misty Woods, as most of us refer to it. And Misty Woods doesn't allow amendments to a zoning map change, which that's what changing to a PUD is. And to me, the entire ordinance of the PUD is the map change. And so therefore, but the court said that if the petitioner the RDC agrees with the amendment or works with the council and agrees to an amendment that it can move forward without amendment, without any further action of the rent commission or whatever. And if it is a reasonable condition, the council can just impose it. But it seems like from what it appeared the meetings with the council and the mayor's comments that everybody would like to work together and move forward collaboratively to try to get a good product. Thank you. Anything else? Dan? No, I'm sorry. That will be it. Okay. Treasurer's report. Jeff? Yes. Excuse me. Before you leave that topic, are you taking public comments? No, not during the report. And I apologize right after I give mine, I'm gonna have to zip up to the airport, so thank you for letting me start right now. I have a report on the 4th Street parking garage. Believe it or not, the 4th Street garage has reached its five-year mark and requires preventative maintenance services to extend its service life. So following an assessment conducted by parking services in collaboration with the engineering firm CE Solutions, the recommended approach focuses on low-level preventative maintenance along with targeted repairs to the drainage system. So to preserve the integrity of the concrete, waterproofing is recommended for the most heavily trafficked levels, specifically levels one, two, three, and the roof deck. This measure will help prevent water infiltration and reduce long-term deterioration. By the way, there's good news at the end of this, so don't think there's going to be a good time. Additionally, the drainage system is currently underperforming due to insufficient pipe slope, which limits the ability of sediment to flow through the system. As a result, drains have become clogged, leading to water pooling on the concrete surfaces, which you can clearly see in the garage after a large rain. Addressing the slope and clearing blockages will restore proper drainage function. There's also some isolated areas exhibiting minor cracking and spalling. These should be repaired using epoxy injection to prevent further degradation. By addressing these low to medium priority maintenance items proactively, the overall lifespan of the garage can be extended while minimizing future repair costs. So you'll remember that the construction of the garage was paid for by two TIF bonds, 2019 TIF revenue bonds for the public component of the garage and 2019 TIF revenue taxable bonds for the commercial component. Parking Services, who maintains the garage, is intending to use the remaining funds in the 2019 TIF revenue taxable bonds proceeds fund, which is Fund 4657 for the record, to support these repairs. Currently $441,894 remains and parking services estimates that this amount should cover the engineering and repairs. Engineering should be around $35,000. The waterproofing will be the big ticket item and will be around $200,000 and the rest is minor repairs. Legal has already run this by bond council and determined this is an appropriate use of the bond proceeds. Further, the 2019 TIF revenue taxable bond has already been paid off. No approval of the RDC is required for these repairs, but we wanted to make sure you were informed as the owners of the garage. If you're interested, we can ask parking services to provide an after action report after the repairs are completed. And I can try to answer any questions you might have, although I'd probably have to come back with any technical questions about the garage repairs. Questions for Jeff. Are their estimates based on actual quotes, or are they just They are based on analysis from an engineering firm that is used to working with companies providing these repairs. Are they going to get quotes? I'm sorry? Are they going to get quotes? They will get quotes before they proceed, yes. What I'm interested in knowing is, so far it's kind of an estimate, and it's one thing to have the cash available, it'll be another if They're the overruns, and then they're coming back for more money. And so I'd like to head that off and know that there's some concrete numbers that they're working from. So what is the request? They are planning to proceed with doing the engineering and getting quotes for the repairs. That's the request. You would just like to know to receive copies of the quotes that they have. Well, as long as they can stay within the the budget number that's available to them, I don't need to see the quotes. They're well aware of the... It's just that when they don't, we don't want to see them. Yeah, I mean, the amount that's available in the bond is the amount that's available, and we're assured that it's more than sufficient to cover the cost of the repairs. So we just need to say it quoted out so we know that we're not going to come back with any additional. I will make sure ParkingSend sends you any additional information that they get during the process. They've already done their evaluation. We've got a five-year-old garage that's supposed to last 50 years, and we're five years in and doing repairs. And their engineering services company says that it is important to do this work to make sure we're actually able to that the garage lasts as long as it's supposed to do. And the after-action report is simply a report back saying the work was done, it came in under budget. Is that a particularly detailed? No, that was a suggestion I made just in case you were interested in hearing the results. I think we probably would like to get the after-action report. And you say the bond is paid off. The bond is paid off. That's a good news part. Well, just that there's already money there also. Nobody's here asking for you for more money. We're saying let's spend money that was already raised for the construction and maintenance of the garage, spending it on construction and maintenance of the garage. Thank you for that good news. Anything else? Any other questions for Jeff? OK. Thank you very much. You travel safely. Be careful. Thank you. Business development updates. Jane is at the airport. Jane is online, also from the airport. Yeah, we're all converging tonight. No business development update. Okay, thank you. That takes us to new business, in particular resolution 2622, approval of a bill of sale and assignment with Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Smith, Incorporated, Care of Bank of America, National Association. Who will be speaking to this? I'm happy to speak to it, or Dana, if you'd like to take it, it's up to you. Essentially, when they moved out, Merrill Lynch left a significant amount of furniture and equipment, all very nice. I did a walkthrough with them. They left the unit in really nice condition. But this is just a sale and assignment to cover their bases of that list of items. And I do believe it's in your exhibit A. that lists all of the items that they've left behind, which include U-shaped desks, overhead cabinets. There's a really nice coffee maker in there. There's flat-screen TV. I mean, they left some really nice equipment. So does the RDC actually own this? They do. So we own artificial plants. We now have a space. You do. They are very nice. For my own knowledge, what happens to this property now? Right. That will be up to you guys to decide at this point. Well, what are the options for that? That's a very good question. I think at this point, we're leaving it in the suite if they can be reutilized, but. Right. We probably should see if it can be utilized for whatever future functions are there. If not, we could look at alternatives and surplusing it. You know, either selling it or transferring it to another government entity, or a 501C3 entity, or there are different avenues selling it. You know, in the open market, there's a variety of things that can be done with it and surplus it. Are there city departments that would like to look at moving into that space given the need to expand My understanding that there is a use study going on. So conceivably they could. Perhaps in the future. It's hard to say at this point. Basically, this is on your agenda tonight. The tenants that have moved out would really feel more comfortable having something signed acknowledging that you guys are in receipt of these. We're in receipt of those Items that they left so that they understand that they no longer have any additional liability for that. At this point, it'll become up to the RDC to make the decision of what to do from a dispossession of them or a realization of that space and the equipment that was left. Correct. Items of value and the stuff we've got to get rid of. Other questions? Is there any public comment on resolution 2622, either here or online? Seeing none, let's come back. For resolution 2622. May I ask what that resolution, does that pertain to the It is the approval of the bill of sale and assignment with Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Smith, Incorporated, Care of Bank of America, National Association. I'm sorry, could you repeat? It is the approval of a bill of sale and assignment with Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Smith, Incorporated, Care of Bank of America, National Association. They're going to purchase city property? No. No. They're leaving their office stuff. They vacated jobs for us. They vacated and leaving their office stuff. And again, this is resolution 2622. Do you have comments on resolution 2622? Yes, I would say that if the city were to take possession of these material items, that they should be offered up to the general public. Thank you very much. My name is Joe Davis. Thank you. Are there any comments online? I'm not seeing any. OK. Let's come back to the commissioners. Are there any further comments or questions? And if not, may I have a motion on resolution 2622? Move approval of resolution 2622. Second. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. That passes. And then? You indicated that we're tabling 2623. We are tabling 2623. OK. That takes us to resolution 2624, approval of conveyance of Convention Center parking lots to the Monroe County Capital Improvement Board of Managers. Who will be speaking to this? Jane is going to introduce this topic this evening. Jane? Hi, everyone. I'll introduce this. And then legal can obviously answer some questions. And then I believe Mr. Whitehart and Mr. Whitclad are in the room as well. So resolution 2624 pertains to the transfer of real property to the Monroe County Capital Improvement Board from the Bloomington Redevelopment Commission for use relating to the Convention Center. This property that would be conveyed tonight if approved is only parking lots that are currently in use. I want to say for the public, this does not pertain to any property that has buildings on it. And this represents, other than Bunger and Robertson, the bulk of the properties near the Convention Center that the Redevelopment Commission owns. So just for a little detail, these parcels, all three parcels were transferred to the RDC at different times. The first parcel, which is west of the Beeline Trail, apologies for the airport noise, which is west of the Beeline Trail, was transferred to the Bloomington Municipal Facilities Court in 91, and then to the RDC in 2023. The property was promised for $1. The other two parcels are south, two lots south of the Convention Center. There's one lot, anyway, two lots south of the Convention Center. and were transferred to the RDC in 1995 from the Bloomington Advancement Corporation. The RDC also purchased these parcels for $1 each. All three parcels currently serve as parking lots for the convention center and do not have any structures on them. They have been used for the convention center since their acquisition. And for this reason, staff recommends to the redevelopment commission via 2624 that they be transferred to the Monroe CIV, which is best positioned to continue using them for the convention center and its expansion. There is an agreement in place with the current hotel operator to lease 20 parking spaces. The lease transfers with the deed can be terminated with 180 days notice. With that, I'd be happy to take questions or have my colleagues also take questions. Mr. Whitehart and Mr. Whitlatch, did you have comments or things to add? No. OK. Questions? Just to verify, this is something that was done through a previous bond issue with Wilmington Municipal Facilities Corporation that at the end transferred it to the Redevelopment Commission. Yes. The two parcels earlier this year that we transferred or accepted the transfer from the Bloomington Municipal Facilities Corporation that were from a bond that was used for a bonding that was two of the parcels. There are two other parcels to the south of that that I notified you about earlier that, by email, said it was owned by the city of Bloomington. But when I went back to the 95 and pulled the 1995 beads, it was actually city of Bloomington, Department of Redevelopment. So it's owned by the RDC. And so therefore, those two parcels were part of those properties as well that are used for the convention center parking lot. and have been used for the Convention Center parking lot, and have been requested by the CIB to be part of the parcels transferred to them. So those are included in the resolution. And then as Jane said, there is that lease. There's two ways to, one is to not terminate it, but change locations of where they can park. That 60-day notice terminating the lease is 180 days notice There's also and it's included as well in the resolution attachments that when seminary was developed lot 27 Which is on the north part where the lots that we talked about from BMFC earlier was in lot 28, where the other two that thought belonged to the city of Bloomington were, are separated by a right-of-way. If you extrapolate that right-of-way to the east and west, as we move forward. So the parcels we talked about from GMFC is this parcel here and this one here. This is owned by somebody else. These two on GIS on the property report card all said it was owned by the city of Bloomington. But again, it's owned by the city of Bloomington Department of Redevelopment, so it's owned by the RCPC. There is a right of way right here that this was part of Seminary Lot 28. This was part of Seminary Lot 27. And this was originally a right-of-way that was platted when seminary was platted. This became West Smith Avenue here and here. You've got the B line coming through here. This was just utilized as part of the parking lots, but it's never been technically a part of either parcel. So depending on what further use the CIB may have with that, they may need to vacate that. They may use it as a drive or something. It just depends on what their future use might be. But they can determine that as they determine what their plans are going to be. So for tonight, you're simply transferring, if you move forward, transferring these four lots over to the CIB so that they can continue. Now look. Point out those four lots again. Okay. Those four lots are this blue. That is, was from BMFC. This small little lot here. No, not that one. The one below it. I'm so sorry. This little one. And then these two lines here. And they show up under the same parcel because since they were the same ownership, back a few years ago, they were condensing, trying to get less parcel numbers at the county. And so they condense it under one parcel number, but it's two separate tracks of land. And so those are the other two tracks of land under one parcel number. So essentially, you are cleaning up something that should have happened about 20 years ago. Yes, yes. It's cleaning it back up from what I understood from Jane's work that it believed they were purchased for $1. And they were supposed to be used for convention center use. I will say that it was discussed that It was important from when we discussed this earlier in year about those parcels from BMFC that the RDC wanted to make sure that this property was used for Convention Center purposes and so therefore let me put up itself there is a condition subsequent. Now courts aren't happy with these so they have to be very well laid out and so the condition subsequent is that the real estate herein shall be used solely for the purpose of directly supporting the Bloomington Convention Center by used as a host hotel parking or other such direct support should the real estate herein fail to be used for the same or be under active development for the same, which could be a variety of ways, for a period of more than two years, the real estate shall revert back to the city of Bloomington Redevelopment Commission in fee simple. So the whole purpose of the CIB asking for it is for the convention center. I know there was concern of what about if it's used for something else down the road. This allows it to come back to the RDC if it was. It wouldn't be allowed to be sold off to the higher bidder for use for student housing or something like that or something that you didn't want to go there. It could come back to the RDC so it could be used for redevelopment purposes. Obviously, the chances of that happening are extremely small. to address the concern that was had that, you know, I put that in there for your interest. So the base, what we're looking at is transferring something back to the CIB that was always intended to be utilized for a convention center basis, of which the bonds were paid off, RDC assumed it from BMFC for a dollar. It has a value, but the primary value will go to the CIB for the benefit of the convention center and the community as a whole. And that clause just says what the conventions are. Thank you, Dan. Additional questions from commissioners? Nothing? OK. Does the CIB want? I'm sorry? Does the CIB want? Well, let's go to public comment. I know. So is there any public comment either online? Please use the raise hand signal or you're in person. So yes, we have a comment. Yes, my name is Joe Davis, and I want to point out the fact that this is the people's property, though it is a parking lot, and though it was only purchased for $1. There are higher and better uses for the public than providing unnecessary parking or unnecessary use by the CIV, because we do not need this expanded convention center. We have many more issues where valuable properties held by both the county and the city, which are located downtown and no more land is being created downtown. It's all that there is. We need to reserve this land for a new jail justice center, co-location with the courts. We need this land for housing. We need this land to serve the community. A hotel does not serve the community. It serves those who come into the community. The convention center is designed to be a moneymaker, a loss leader, mind you, a loss leader that is going to benefit only a handful of players. Those are the hoteliers, the restaurateurs, those who are making a dollar. The average Joe like you and me are not going to benefit at all. I strongly encourage the RDC to not transfer these parking lot properties to the CIB. Thank you very much. Thank you for your comments. Are there other comments here in person? Seeing none, let's come back to the Redevelopment Commission. Oh, my fault. What did I miss? No, I didn't see any hands raised. I don't see any. OK. All right, seeing no further comments, let's come back to commissioners. Any additional questions or comments? And if not, may I have a motion? I'll move approval of resolution 26-24. I'll second. Thank you. You have a motion and a second. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. That passes. And that takes us to resolution 2625, approval of supplement number three to construction engineering contract for the beeline trail and multi-use path. And welcome. Yep. Good evening. Roy Dayton with City Engineering Department. This is our beeline construction project that's nearing its end. We have just a little bit of construction left to be wanted. Some soft work and some fencing to put up in the last inspections. And then there's the paperwork phase. It's a federal funded project, so there's a lot of paperwork that has to be submitted to the state or anything like that. Through the project, we hired Crossroad engineers to do our construction inspection for the project. Their contract has wound down. Some of that was, we've had, this is a third supplement that we had done to the project. The first supplement did not regard funding at all. It was just, changing wage rates, but we did not change the notice to exceed amount on the project. The second supplement was for $40,000, where we had added to the contract. And that was due to some environmental remediation issues that we had on the project with one of the lots that we had to go through. It added some delays to the project. That was to cover these delays. This last ask is for a supplement or $15,000 just to give us enough hours on the contract just to wind it up down and get us through completion. Thank you. All right, questions? We're down to paying for the paperwork. We are down to paying for it, yes. OK. Thank you. OK. Additional questions? Seeing none, let's go to public comment. If you are online, please feel welcome to use the raise hand function. I see one, and then are there comments here in person? All right, let's do in person first, then we'll do online. Hello, my name is Joe Davis, and as a user of the Beeline Trail, I have noticed that even though there have been many improvements, the side access or the side that runs along the paved surfaces where quarter minus gravel is placed has been largely missing and making the area where joggers who try to run on that gravel to reduce the impact on their knees and hips, where walkers walk along the side of that, it also helps to provide a margin of safety from all the bicycles and the scooters that are zipping up and down the beeline. areas on either side of the paved surface need to go back and have more gravel placed and also to some larger aggregate on its edge to prevent washout because when we have heavy rains those rains wash away all of the quarter minus or the number 11 gravel and we are left with very unsafe conditions along that beeline trail. I hope that this will be remedied and there will be a long ongoing maintenance to make sure that this is kept safe and usable by the public. Thank you very much. Thank you. And let's go to our online comments. Ms. Piedmont-Smith, welcome. Yes, thank you. I really didn't have a comment on this, but I didn't see any other opportunity to just introduce myself as the liaison from the Common Council to the RDC. You may have heard that the Common Council now assigns council members to be liaisons to all of our resident board of commissioners. And so I am the liaison to the RDC. That's why I've been working on Zoom meetings. And so if there's any, a way that I can help with communication with the council. Just let me know. Thank you. Thank you, council member Piedmont-Smith. I see no further comments, no further raised hands online. So let's come back to commissioners for any additional comments or questions. Seeing none, may I have a motion for resolution 2625? Move approval for 2625. Second. It's been moved and seconded. All those in favor indicate by saying aye. Aye. Are there any opposed? Thank you. That passes. But is there any other business we have before us this evening? Or any good news? Well, we did close the Trades District Hotel on the 25th. So we haven't had a meeting since that time. So that was something marked off of our to-do lists. But other than that, I do not. We are in the trenches with the Hopewell South PUD. We'll continue to work with you all. OK. I've got a question. Yes. This is to Christine. Is there any way that you can send a consolidated packet and not, we don't have to hit multiple links? Can I or will I? Where did IT land on that? If we say please? One of the things we have to be careful about is the end of April is the deadline for compliance with the new federal regulation for accessibility, which is why your packet flipped over. I don't have a problem doing what you're doing, but for our purposes. Well, the one thing that we have to be careful about is creating inaccessible documents like PDFs. Because as soon as we create it and send it out, we could get into trouble because that's what we're not supposed to do. So I don't know where IT landed on that particular. The issue is that once we create a document and send it out, if somebody asks for that particular document in a public request, then we don't have it as I can talk with that IT asset, maybe because we have it in a different form that's accessible. We could do that. So let me check with ITS to see if we could, as long as we have it in another version, maybe we could. Maybe we can consolidate it into one. I'm not trying to undo what you're doing for public access. We know. This is for commission access. We've received a lot of comments. This is not a workable system. Yeah, and if it's allowed, I don't know. We don't have to do that. We just need to make sure that we're allowed to do it. I don't want to cause problems for the city. We can always go old school and just send it out on Friday at the bail. I'll have paper copies waiting by the front door. Well, I mean, if you're doing it, if you're not sitting in an office environment and you're trying to pull this up, it's impossible. If you're sitting at the airport trying to review this, forget it. This cover says nuts. Well, let us talk to IT and the other city departments and make sure that it's OK. And if it is, we're more than happy to get you guys the packet that you like while still also producing the accessible version. Thank you for that. Appreciate it. Thank you. I understand. I'm sorry. Anything else? With the good of the order? If not, may I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Second. Second. Always the quickest. Oh, wait. We do have public comment. No public comment tonight? Well, typically we do public comment on specific resolutions. Well, yeah. My name is Jeff Richardson. Thank you so much for kicking off the questions about HOPA. And thank you for your response, Councilor Kerr, legal Councilor Kerr. I just want to make a plea. to all of you, and I did the same at the City Council, and to any other entity, to let's work together to figure this out. I mean, I'm so concerned that we have a golden opportunity. Everyone I talk to wants improved housing. Everyone I talk to wants to figure out how best we can do this. And I'm just saying, and I think you suggested it, and your question was the catalyst for it, let's find a way where we can find common ground. and work through this. I know there'll be some people that will agree to disagree about certain paths we may go down, but we can do this. And I just want to cheer you on along with the council and the mayor and all the other stakeholders to make this happen. So that's my plea on a Monday evening. And we've got until May 6 to make this happen. I think we've got a lot of time. And I'm, my, you know, President Truman said, it's amazing how much you've accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit. We can do this. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Richardson. I second Jeff's comments. So thank you, Mr. Richardson. We can do this together, but the public needs to be involved, the public. This is not anything for behind the scenes, closed doors. The public needs to have, to hear, they need transparency, and they need to be given much opportunity for anything. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else for the good of the order? All right. We've had a motion and a multiple seconds to adjourn. Is there any discussion? All right. All those in favor? Aye. We are adjourned. Thank you, everyone.