WEBVTT 00:00:00.098 --> 00:00:06.658 - Welcome to the redevelopment commission meeting for the City of Bloomington for June 15th, 2026. We'll 00:00:06.658 --> 00:00:13.536 - start the meeting with a roll call please. Laura McRobbie, present. Steve Scambaleri, here. Brandi Cassidy, 00:00:13.536 --> 00:00:19.904 - present. John West, here. Debra Meyerson, here. Staff present, please. Anna Killian Hanson, housing 00:00:19.904 --> 00:00:26.846 - development. Christina Finley, hand department. Henry Caswell, hand department. Jeff McKim, city controller. 00:00:29.922 --> 00:00:43.305 - First item on our agenda is the approval of minutes from June 1st, 2026. Any questions or comments from 00:00:43.305 --> 00:00:56.302 - commissioners? If not, I will take a motion. Yes, I do have at least a question on page three. Under 00:00:56.302 --> 00:00:59.262 - resolution 2637 is the 00:00:59.810 --> 00:01:09.191 - The language that we added to the draft of is, I think, the draft of resolution 2635, which is covered 00:01:09.191 --> 00:01:18.390 - on the previous page. So it just may be that whatever is written there should not be in that part of 00:01:18.390 --> 00:01:27.134 - the minutes. That is correct. It has nothing to do with resolution 2637. Good catch. Thank you. 00:01:30.978 --> 00:01:38.702 - Any other questions or comments from commissioners about the minutes from June 1st? Move for approval. 00:01:38.702 --> 00:01:46.276 - Second. As amended. We've got a first and a second for the minutes as amended. All in favor say aye. 00:01:46.276 --> 00:01:53.851 - Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. Thank you. Next item on the agenda is the Claims Register from 00:01:53.851 --> 00:01:59.550 - June 18th, 2026. Any questions or comments from commissioners on this item? 00:02:03.458 --> 00:02:12.337 - On Fund 2209-9216, I know what it was. Can you tell me what page it is? Oh, I apologize. There's a lot 00:02:12.337 --> 00:02:20.268 - of claims there. Yeah, there are. Yeah, okay. It'd be on page 9 of 111, and it's 2209 Fund, 00:02:20.268 --> 00:02:28.888 - and it's the 9216. I know it's for the maintenance of the lots, which is our responsibility. I just 00:02:28.888 --> 00:02:30.526 - want to be able to 00:02:30.626 --> 00:02:37.418 - bring up that at some point with page nine. Well, on mine it's page nine. It's page two of six. Page 00:02:37.418 --> 00:02:44.143 - two of six, thank you. I apologize. Oh, it's the middle of the page 9216. Page two of six. Williams 00:02:44.143 --> 00:02:50.935 - Creek Management. Yes. I know it's for the maintenance of the Evergreen lots. I just want to keep it 00:02:50.935 --> 00:02:57.795 - on radar at some point to be able to try to get that homeowners association going. We have attempted. 00:02:57.795 --> 00:03:00.350 - I know. I know we have. They have not 00:03:00.546 --> 00:03:07.889 - cooperative and actually just so that you're aware I do believe that that was home funding that we use 00:03:07.889 --> 00:03:15.375 - it is so it because we use home funding in the project originally yes I just want to bring it up because 00:03:15.375 --> 00:03:22.504 - at some point the homeowners Association have to take responsibility they were supposed to yes okay 00:03:22.504 --> 00:03:26.782 - thank you and then the only and the other question would be 00:03:26.946 --> 00:03:34.263 - under I think it's 25-19 on the Duke bills where we're getting college square and we don't have any 00:03:34.263 --> 00:03:41.726 - tenants there, is that correct? We do have Wettle in the building. Wettle, okay. And the reason I ask 00:03:41.726 --> 00:03:49.189 - that when I combined up the college square bills for the Duke it was like $2,045 now and I think that 00:03:49.189 --> 00:03:55.262 - incorporates two months. And yeah, there are individually metered units there that 00:03:55.874 --> 00:04:01.964 - harder to pay. We're paying the minimum. Okay, so basically that's the weddle and associated minimums 00:04:01.964 --> 00:04:07.994 - for a couple months. Yes, but I will tell you that we are supposed to be billing back weddles, so we 00:04:07.994 --> 00:04:14.024 - do owe them a bill back for some utilities and that is coming there expecting it. We've talked about 00:04:14.024 --> 00:04:19.994 - it as recently as last week. Okay, perfect. Thank you. And while we're on subject to college square 00:04:19.994 --> 00:04:25.726 - and utilities, I just want to flag for you that we did receive and it will be coming out in the 00:04:25.858 --> 00:04:32.525 - following claim register, I don't think in this one, a more than $1,000 water bill for College Square. 00:04:32.525 --> 00:04:39.127 - Apparently there was a leak in the common area restroom. It has been repaired, but just FYI, that was 00:04:39.127 --> 00:04:45.924 - a little shocking, but has been taken care of. Is there any, in terms of what else, use of the property, 00:04:45.924 --> 00:04:52.591 - anything where there could be some weekly, let's say, just kind of scan to look for things before they 00:04:52.591 --> 00:04:53.950 - kind of get adequate 00:04:54.050 --> 00:05:00.609 - I'm just trying to get a sense of what capacity. It was them that discovered it. They're in the one 00:05:00.609 --> 00:05:07.430 - end of the building and they've got their own restrooms. And the end that you're talking about probably 00:05:07.430 --> 00:05:14.054 - was where the offices were. And that's what I'll even use that end. I'm not sure they discovered the 00:05:14.054 --> 00:05:20.875 - leak, but yes. So we, it may be another conversation to say, should we shut off all common area? That's 00:05:20.875 --> 00:05:22.974 - where I was headed. Yeah. Okay. 00:05:23.938 --> 00:05:37.776 - We can work on that. No, no. Got to ask. It's okay to question work, but we don't use it. Anything else 00:05:37.776 --> 00:05:49.086 - on the plan? Yeah, I've got not a question about the bill, but just a status kind of 00:05:52.962 --> 00:06:02.679 - Climate control at the Trades Garage. I see that we've got quite a few invoices from HFI. And I know 00:06:02.679 --> 00:06:12.588 - that we've got a situation there where we've been having a hard time stabilizing it. The Trades Garage 00:06:12.588 --> 00:06:20.862 - has mostly been stabilized. I will have to talk to the facilities and get back to you 00:06:21.250 --> 00:06:33.079 - what they were working on there. Because we did have Blue Fox working on the trades commercial space. 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:44.675 - This may be specific to something else. I'll have to report back on that. This may be their billing 00:06:44.675 --> 00:06:49.662 - previous to Blue Fox going in and handling 00:06:51.138 --> 00:07:00.042 - So it may just be a billing catch up. Yeah, and actually you can tell, and you can see it says 7-11-25, 00:07:00.042 --> 00:07:08.603 - 7-18-25. So this is prior to me getting involved to find the root cause. Yeah. These are some older 00:07:08.603 --> 00:07:17.336 - bills. So we're paying them, but they never actually solved the problem. Correct. They tried a number 00:07:17.336 --> 00:07:19.134 - of different things. 00:07:26.050 --> 00:07:36.626 - on the 6 of 6 on the BOKF, which is our solar panels. What is the interest basis of that? I'm going 00:07:36.626 --> 00:07:47.413 - to have to let Jeff and Dana answer that. This is our portion that we pay, and we pay that how often? 00:07:47.413 --> 00:07:48.894 - Twice a year. 00:07:53.730 --> 00:08:05.572 - separated out the interest or is that principal plus interest? I don't have the. I only have the principle 00:08:05.572 --> 00:08:16.971 - and interest for the total solar bonds payment, not just the RDC's portion of it, but right now. Let's 00:08:16.971 --> 00:08:20.734 - see if we're looking at. 2026 we. 00:08:21.378 --> 00:08:36.220 - the total payment on the bond is $427,600 and of that $132,600 is interest. So you can just kind of 00:08:36.220 --> 00:08:48.094 - do the proportionally, the interest is going to be about 30% of the total cost. 00:08:51.202 --> 00:08:59.590 - all been broke out between utilities, RDC, and parks. Those are the three entities that have the payment 00:08:59.590 --> 00:09:07.818 - overall for 427. Exactly. Okay, thank you. Okay, are you done, Randy? Yes. One more on page two of six 00:09:07.818 --> 00:09:16.286 - leading into page three of six, the ICD ARFA expenditures. Question for our controller, can you do just a 00:09:16.418 --> 00:09:23.740 - 30-second or 60-second update on ARPA funding and where we are with that. I think this is our last year 00:09:23.740 --> 00:09:31.133 - for some of those expenditures, if I remember correctly. I mean, yes, but I would need to get the detail 00:09:31.133 --> 00:09:38.525 - on these specific expenditures. But yes, we are still paying out various contracts associated with ARPA. 00:09:38.525 --> 00:09:46.270 - Sorry, I'll have to send you the detail. All projects for ARPA have to be complete by the end of this county. 00:09:46.594 --> 00:09:53.276 - That's what I was remembering. So yes. So it's going to be whether everyone spends what they've been 00:09:53.276 --> 00:09:59.892 - allocated or not, but they have until the end of this calendar year and that is it. And if we don't 00:09:59.892 --> 00:10:06.707 - do the dollars revert then or what? They do revert. OK. Thank you. Does that put us at any risk as far 00:10:06.707 --> 00:10:08.030 - as a lot of people? 00:10:16.130 --> 00:10:23.932 - There are no further questions on the claims register from June 18, 2026. I'll take a motion. Move approval 00:10:23.932 --> 00:10:31.229 - of the claims register. Second. The person is second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes 00:10:31.229 --> 00:10:38.742 - unanimously. Thank you. Next item on the agenda is the payroll register for May 29, 2026. Any questions 00:10:38.742 --> 00:10:41.054 - or comments from commissioners? 00:10:45.602 --> 00:10:55.094 - second we've got a first and a second all in favor say aye aye any opposed thank you okay next there's 00:10:55.094 --> 00:11:04.677 - directors report there is no formal directors report I will let you know that I got a message from John 00:11:04.677 --> 00:11:12.510 - Hernandez last week that they have had a water intrusion issue at the porch and so I 00:11:13.698 --> 00:11:21.062 - It's about $2,500 is what they're anticipating for the repair. We would likely try to run that through 00:11:21.062 --> 00:11:28.212 - the 2602 funding line, which is for maintenance of all RDC properties. But just to give you a heads 00:11:28.212 --> 00:11:35.433 - up that that is coming and I told him to move forward with the repair because water intrusion issues 00:11:35.433 --> 00:11:39.294 - are the largest issue with degradation of properties. 00:11:47.426 --> 00:11:55.599 - doing a legal report. I do have a report with questions. Thank you. Treasurer's report. Just a brief 00:11:55.599 --> 00:12:04.095 - one. Actually, Tammy is going to share a spreadsheet on the screen. This is a report that we'll actually 00:12:04.095 --> 00:12:12.511 - send out to you for the minutes, but I just wanted to let everybody know that we did receive our spring 00:12:12.511 --> 00:12:15.262 - property tax settlement for 2026. 00:12:15.746 --> 00:12:23.011 - This chart up here actually shows the amount of settlement we received over $13 million in property 00:12:23.011 --> 00:12:31.002 - tax a couple of days ago. This chart that I'll send out actually shows the property tax revenue by allocation 00:12:31.002 --> 00:12:38.339 - area. Like I said, I don't think there's any point to go through this in detail at this meeting, but 00:12:38.339 --> 00:12:43.134 - I'll send this out to the group and it'll be part of the minutes. 00:12:43.490 --> 00:12:50.864 - But I just kind of wanted to let everybody know that we had received that settlement. It was about $3 00:12:50.864 --> 00:12:58.310 - million more than the equivalent spring settlement of last year. And we've still not received anything 00:12:58.310 --> 00:13:06.334 - for the meridian tip. So that number still remains zero. Happy to take any questions. Is there an anticipated? 00:13:06.690 --> 00:13:12.836 - online for one number native might be part of that? No, you know, I was thinking of calling the assessor 00:13:12.836 --> 00:13:18.807 - and talking about that. I just worked on this chart today and I... Yeah, it'd be kind of curious just 00:13:18.807 --> 00:13:24.719 - to know like how that timeline is managed because obviously it's not necessarily on the property tax 00:13:24.719 --> 00:13:30.690 - timeline because it's being... I'm just... Well, no, it should still be on the property tax timeline, 00:13:30.690 --> 00:13:34.846 - yeah. Okay. So when you say we've received three million dollars more, 00:13:35.074 --> 00:13:41.176 - based upon what the assessed value was at the time that the properties have came into being paid. So 00:13:41.176 --> 00:13:47.521 - does that allow $3 million more to be spent on any projects that are necessary? Well, yes. But remember, 00:13:47.521 --> 00:13:53.986 - we're still anticipating this revenue for future bonds that we've discussed. So it shouldn't be considered 00:13:53.986 --> 00:14:00.269 - gravy. It just means that it's not found money. But it's additional dollars that we weren't calculating 00:14:00.269 --> 00:14:03.230 - on at the present time. Right. It does mean that 00:14:03.842 --> 00:14:10.774 - our allocation areas are mostly continuing to create the increment that we anticipated. And then dealing 00:14:10.774 --> 00:14:17.705 - with the Prowl Road Tif, that goes away at the end of this year. That goes away at the end of this year. 00:14:17.705 --> 00:14:24.439 - So we'll receive one more settlement, the fall settlement, at the end of the year and that will be it 00:14:24.439 --> 00:14:29.918 - for the Prowl Road Tif. When do we have to spend down that allocation buy for that 00:14:31.362 --> 00:14:38.767 - So I'm going to defer to Anna on this. We've had some discussions about the... But the kids are proud 00:14:38.767 --> 00:14:46.462 - to. Yeah. We do not have, my understanding, Dana, correct me, that we don't have a hard and fast deadline 00:14:46.462 --> 00:14:53.722 - of when we need to spend it by. It's just when we stop collecting these at the end of this year. Is 00:14:53.722 --> 00:15:01.054 - that correct? Yeah. Correct. But we really should be trying to find the right project for that area. 00:15:01.570 --> 00:15:12.958 - There's been a few that's popped up that ended up getting taken care of already, but we do need to start 00:15:12.958 --> 00:15:24.346 - looking at what some of the needs are in that area. There's been so much work in other places, not being 00:15:24.346 --> 00:15:31.070 - able to focus on that, but I believe getting with engineering 00:15:33.922 --> 00:15:42.632 - structure stressors that are in that area is an important next step for that. And as of today, that 00:15:42.632 --> 00:15:51.691 - TIF fund has $831,000 in it, and there'll probably be another, in the fall there'll probably be another 00:15:51.691 --> 00:16:00.489 - around 40,000, 45,000. So yeah, it'll be like 875 maybe, something like that by the end. Recognizing 00:16:00.489 --> 00:16:03.102 - that that could get chewed up 00:16:03.618 --> 00:16:10.277 - infrastructure improvements, and so forth. One nice, visible, neighborhood visible kind of thing to 00:16:10.277 --> 00:16:17.069 - do would be to take some proposals for some neighborhood beautification that could happen as a result 00:16:17.069 --> 00:16:23.928 - of that. Could happen with that funding. I mean, much like we did the neighborhood improvement grants, 00:16:23.928 --> 00:16:30.721 - these were big sums of money, and they got the neighborhood together to do various projects. It might 00:16:30.721 --> 00:16:33.118 - be a nice additional way to cap off 00:16:34.818 --> 00:16:42.844 - that's funding, you know, 20 grand allocated, something like that. Anyway, just a suggestion. Can you 00:16:42.844 --> 00:16:50.870 - just remind me what the vision was for the TIF when it was, let's say, created 25 years ago, whatever 00:16:50.870 --> 00:16:58.974 - that was? I don't remember. Yeah. You remember? I don't. That corridor was envisioned to be a business 00:16:58.974 --> 00:17:03.774 - corridor going up north of the north side of the county. OK. 00:17:04.066 --> 00:17:12.494 - And I remember the conversation, and they visualized, just think of what, in Marion County, what Meridian 00:17:12.494 --> 00:17:21.081 - looks like. This could be our little, our little Meridian. And so it would, you know, there was a building, 00:17:21.081 --> 00:17:25.534 - a big office building built, and it was more projected. 00:17:26.114 --> 00:17:31.816 - correct me if I'm wrong, Randy, because your memory's better than mine, but there was actually a business 00:17:31.816 --> 00:17:37.357 - park that was envisioned. It was envisioned there based upon the all good building that originally was 00:17:37.357 --> 00:17:42.737 - taken over, and then the addition for it was added on, Meadows came in, and it was supposed to be a 00:17:42.737 --> 00:17:48.331 - business park in that particular area, and as 69 came through, it was going to be an off ramp that then 00:17:48.331 --> 00:17:53.926 - would bring us into the park. But the park was going to be there first, before 69, and then, of course, 00:17:53.926 --> 00:17:55.486 - the park never materialized, 00:17:56.546 --> 00:18:03.596 - No need for an offering. Yeah. Yeah. All good. All good dealership. All good. Had a big leasing company, 00:18:03.596 --> 00:18:10.580 - a leasing company that built the original building. I'm thinking the part of Prowl that goes south from 00:18:10.580 --> 00:18:17.429 - 10th Street. Isn't there a block or two? Oh, you're in downtown Prowl. Downtown Prowl. Yeah. No, this 00:18:17.429 --> 00:18:23.606 - is one of the high school north Kinzer Road Prowl. Just north of the high school. I thought 00:18:23.606 --> 00:18:25.822 - about neighborhood stuff. Sorry. 00:18:26.018 --> 00:18:36.431 - So we call it the pro road. The Hedricks? I'm sorry? Hedricks? If you look across from North High School, 00:18:36.431 --> 00:18:46.352 - you can still see a silo there. Okay, because Phil Hedrick had a little farmer and he's the one that 00:18:46.352 --> 00:18:49.790 - provided the donkey to Bob Knight. 00:18:50.370 --> 00:19:01.184 - My treasurer's report is coming up with a proposal for the use of those funds because I understand from 00:19:01.184 --> 00:19:12.103 - legal that there's not maybe a deadline but that also is an appropriate and responsible use of the funds 00:19:12.103 --> 00:19:16.574 - and I'm just trying to understand you know 00:19:17.218 --> 00:19:23.760 - when it comes back to us, who might be helping to get it to that point? We are working as a team on 00:19:23.760 --> 00:19:30.433 - that. Okay. So we have an internal RDC team that includes legal, the controller, me, and the director 00:19:30.433 --> 00:19:36.975 - of economic and sustainability. So Jane. Okay. Okay. Thanks. Just wanted to get a sense of how that 00:19:36.975 --> 00:19:42.078 - might be. And with this, we see this very often in our other hand funds where 00:19:42.242 --> 00:19:49.206 - projects make application and while we're looking at them, they may fall through just for feasibility 00:19:49.206 --> 00:19:56.102 - reasons or whatnot. So we've looked at a few different things that have not reached fruition to this 00:19:56.102 --> 00:20:03.271 - point. Okay, thank you for that. Okay, next we have a business development update. Director Cooper Smith 00:20:03.271 --> 00:20:10.372 - is out this week, so I do not believe that she has one. Anna, did you have the? Okay, that's fine. Just 00:20:10.372 --> 00:20:11.806 - wanted to make sure. 00:20:12.098 --> 00:20:17.991 - I do see Mr. Kanoki here. Do you have an engineering for Hopewell update? Even though we kind of released 00:20:17.991 --> 00:20:23.551 - you formerly of that. I don't have an update this week. I'm here for an agenda item. But I will say 00:20:23.551 --> 00:20:29.278 - we are planning on having the number of zero step entry units for you by the end of this week. So your 00:20:29.278 --> 00:20:35.115 - next meeting should be able to update. Exciting. OK. Thank you so much. And I have an intent to schedule 00:20:35.115 --> 00:20:35.838 - with the CC. 00:20:36.418 --> 00:20:42.601 - Yes. Okay. Yeah, I have to check that. That would be great. Okay. We are on to new business. We're looking 00:20:42.601 --> 00:20:48.612 - at resolution 26-37, which is the approval of an agreement with Calumet Civil Contractors, Incorporated 00:20:48.612 --> 00:20:54.622 - for temporary storage at Hope Police Development. Is that what you're here for, Mr. Kenoki? Yes. Kenoki 00:20:54.622 --> 00:21:00.401 - Engineering Department. So this was brought before you at your last meeting. We received some great 00:21:00.401 --> 00:21:04.446 - feedback on the language of the agreement. But just to recap, this is 00:21:04.674 --> 00:21:12.250 - an agreement to allow the contractor for the West Second Street modernization project to use the northwest 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:19.401 - corner of Hopewell East as a staging area. So this is the southeast corner of Rogers and Second. The 00:21:19.401 --> 00:21:26.623 - agreement was presented to you last meeting. There was some feedback given, and I think Dana has done 00:21:26.623 --> 00:21:33.278 - a great job incorporating all the feedback. But I'll just recap briefly what the changes are. 00:21:33.538 --> 00:21:41.264 - One request was no access to the alley or any of the new Hopewell East infrastructure will be permitted, 00:21:41.264 --> 00:21:48.549 - so we removed that from the exhibit and from the agreement itself. Improved the language regarding 00:21:48.549 --> 00:21:55.981 - restoration of the site once they're complete. We added a bond requirement for them. The request was 00:21:55.981 --> 00:22:03.486 - 30 days to kick them off of the site, and Dana actually put 15 in there, so we went above and beyond. 00:22:03.874 --> 00:22:11.137 - And then we added some language about the erosion control responsibilities. So I skimmed through. I 00:22:11.137 --> 00:22:18.763 - don't know, Dana, do you have anything to add? Any changes that you made? No, we talked about the amount 00:22:18.763 --> 00:22:26.244 - of the bond. And so we, Kendall and I, we went back and forth about the different kinds of things that 00:22:26.244 --> 00:22:32.926 - might need to be replaced if things went really bad. And so there's monitoring wells there. 00:22:33.090 --> 00:22:41.753 - and so replacing abandoning current monitoring wells if ever damaged and installing new ones and things 00:22:41.753 --> 00:22:50.249 - like that. And so I believe both of us felt comfortable that the $100,000 bond would be sufficient as 00:22:50.249 --> 00:22:58.746 - a restoration bond to make sure the property gets back to its condition. OK. Thank you. Any questions 00:22:58.746 --> 00:23:02.494 - or comments from commissioners on resolution 00:23:02.850 --> 00:23:10.362 - What's our rule as we're turning this property over to Calumet to utilize as a staging area where are 00:23:10.362 --> 00:23:17.947 - we at with our previous contractor and then having release of liability based upon whether it be trees 00:23:17.947 --> 00:23:25.533 - restoration and the rest of that so that we don't end up into you cause this we didn't have that. Yeah 00:23:25.533 --> 00:23:27.006 - so we have done our 00:23:27.746 --> 00:23:34.978 - We have done everything except for release the retainage to that contractor. So they are waiting for 00:23:34.978 --> 00:23:42.281 - our final pay app release of retainage. And we're just waiting on sign off from some city departments 00:23:42.281 --> 00:23:49.585 - like planning on a lot of the plantings. There were plantings that have died that are being replaced. 00:23:49.585 --> 00:23:57.246 - So my thought is if all of that is completed before Calumet is out of there, then this little section will 00:23:57.634 --> 00:24:03.550 - kind of become Calumet's responsibility. This is really just a little grass area so it's not the subject 00:24:03.550 --> 00:24:09.354 - of kind of all the ongoing. Right, I just want to verify that where we're setting it we're not getting 00:24:09.354 --> 00:24:15.044 - into something well that was fine that we verify ahead of time with photos and written documentation 00:24:15.044 --> 00:24:20.960 - that it was in this condition we expected to be put back in that condition. Yeah and Dana actually added 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:27.102 - a line that photos have to be taken and they have to restore it to the existing condition. Who on the city's 00:24:27.234 --> 00:24:34.474 - be responsible for documenting and keeping track of that. Is that you? Is that Anna? So that we have 00:24:34.474 --> 00:24:42.001 - pre-usage photography so we verify. Yeah, that's a good question. Probably since this is RDC, it's going 00:24:42.001 --> 00:24:49.313 - to be Anna Dragovich. I will say we are, with our little construction camera, we are taking a picture 00:24:49.313 --> 00:24:55.550 - every 10 minutes now. So we've got a couple of weeks for the green to, I think we can, 00:24:55.842 --> 00:25:02.479 - I just want to verify that we're not getting into finger pointing. And then you feel based upon your 00:25:02.479 --> 00:25:09.312 - experience that $100,000 will put it back into the condition. Yeah. And that's kind of assuming a worst 00:25:09.312 --> 00:25:15.949 - case scenario. Yeah. OK. And this is a performance and payment performance bond. Yes. OK. Thank you. 00:25:15.949 --> 00:25:21.534 - Any other questions or comments? Otherwise, I'll open. Oh. Sorry. One last question. 00:25:22.050 --> 00:25:28.046 - given the fact that this contract is supposed to be done by December 26 or December 31st of 26, where 00:25:28.046 --> 00:25:34.042 - is our restoration time that we're looking at? Because you're not going to plant grass and you're not 00:25:34.042 --> 00:25:40.450 - going to have anything done until spring. So just trying to look at that because if they finish in December, 00:25:40.450 --> 00:25:46.446 - we're not going to be able to come back and really plant and get ourselves where it needs to be until 00:25:46.446 --> 00:25:51.678 - spring. Yeah, I think we would hold the bond until all of that was established. Is there 00:25:51.778 --> 00:25:59.971 - Anything specific in the language, Dana, that speaks to that? No, not as far as the time frame. So we 00:25:59.971 --> 00:26:08.245 - would just work with them. We would not release the bond until we were satisfied. Right. Like, anyway, 00:26:08.245 --> 00:26:16.599 - what I'm trying to establish is so that they understand they need to get it done by this time, and then 00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:18.366 - whether it be June 1, 00:26:19.874 --> 00:26:26.752 - the condition because we've got a good stand to grasp the present moment and I understand we want buildings 00:26:26.752 --> 00:26:33.567 - and people there but we also need to on a on a project like this that we're looking at outward appearances 00:26:33.567 --> 00:26:40.190 - are always important as we're trying to look at the project overall for the future right okay so timing 00:26:40.190 --> 00:26:46.686 - just when it's got to be done some question if you could work that out amongst the staff I appreciate 00:26:47.202 --> 00:26:54.088 - Yeah, it looks like the language is pretty open, so we can hold the bond until we believe the site's 00:26:54.088 --> 00:27:01.587 - been restored in a satisfactory fashion. Yeah, which is great. I'm just trying to hold all of us accountable, 00:27:01.587 --> 00:27:08.745 - time-wise. There are no other questions or comments from commissioners. I'll open it for public comment, 00:27:08.745 --> 00:27:15.699 - either online or in person for Resolution 26-37. Seeing none, I will ask for motion. Move approval of 00:27:15.699 --> 00:27:16.926 - Resolution 26-37. 00:27:17.442 --> 00:27:27.431 - We've got a person in second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. Thank you. 00:27:27.431 --> 00:27:37.322 - The next item on the agenda is 26-40, which is the approval of the First Amendment to the 2025 CDBG 00:27:37.322 --> 00:27:45.630 - Social Services Grant Agreement with Middleway House. Seeking an extension of time. 00:27:46.050 --> 00:27:52.144 - new federal requirements that came out during the grant process last year did make it harder for agencies 00:27:52.144 --> 00:27:57.951 - to expend their funds and a lot of which was just caused by guidance not necessarily being there for 00:27:57.951 --> 00:28:03.700 - how to proceed in making sure we hit those compliance standards. So this would just be an extension 00:28:03.700 --> 00:28:09.795 - of time to allow them to do so but most likely if we can get that ironed out they'll spend it well before 00:28:09.795 --> 00:28:12.382 - the next actual funding grant gets underway. 00:28:14.882 --> 00:28:20.803 - Any questions or comments from commissioners on this amendment? I'm just curious, are there 00:28:20.803 --> 00:28:27.304 - other not-for-profits that will have the same problem? Yes. We'll be seeing this again. Most likely. 00:28:27.304 --> 00:28:33.740 - Okay. Any other questions or comments? Otherwise, I'll open it up for public comment, either online 00:28:33.740 --> 00:28:40.305 - or in person, for Resolution 26-40. Seeing none, I'll ask for a motion, please. I'll make a motion to 00:28:40.305 --> 00:28:42.622 - approve 26-40 as presented. Second. 00:28:43.234 --> 00:28:50.802 - first and a second, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. Next item in the agenda 00:28:50.802 --> 00:28:58.079 - is resolution 2641, which is the approval of the purchase of project management software. Who would 00:28:58.079 --> 00:29:05.575 - like to speak to that? Hannah Dragovich is going to be taking that one. Yeah, I can. Hope well. As you 00:29:05.575 --> 00:29:10.814 - all know, it is quite a robust project. I mean, we were just discussing 00:29:11.522 --> 00:29:18.463 - Who's going to track what? Who's going to be responsible for what? Who's going to be aware day to day? 00:29:18.463 --> 00:29:25.674 - And right now, the team is doing, I think, fairly well working in just a simple Google Sheets spreadsheet. 00:29:25.674 --> 00:29:32.547 - But as we go on and as this project gets more and more complicated with contractors digging out there 00:29:32.547 --> 00:29:37.534 - and proximity that I'm just anticipating things getting more complicated. 00:29:37.922 --> 00:29:45.209 - We're kind of getting to the point where our to-do list sort of has a to-do list. And so I would really 00:29:45.209 --> 00:29:52.215 - love for the team to get monday.com is what I'm recommending specifically to purchase so that folks 00:29:52.215 --> 00:29:59.782 - can just have more of a, I guess, a more dynamic way to manage the project. I don't know if you're familiar 00:29:59.782 --> 00:30:06.718 - with working with any of those, but I can go into a little bit more details if you want, but it's, 00:30:07.394 --> 00:30:15.580 - a more robust way to facilitate a project and make sure things are getting tracked. And just visually 00:30:15.580 --> 00:30:23.606 - as opposed to a spreadsheet, which is really the purpose is more financial tracking and not project 00:30:23.606 --> 00:30:31.792 - management. Having a proper project management tool will just help us keep track of things. And so to 00:30:31.792 --> 00:30:36.286 - start, I'm recommending 10 what monday.com calls seats, 00:30:36.482 --> 00:30:48.964 - our subscriptions. And to purchase an annual subscription for those 10 seats, the total cost is $2,280. 00:30:48.964 --> 00:31:02.045 - And so that will be 10 people across several departments who are directly working, have tasks with Hopewell. 00:31:02.045 --> 00:31:06.366 - So hopefully that provides clarity. 00:31:07.362 --> 00:31:15.554 - Have you enough? I think it's a good start. You know, I was trying to be a bit more conservative. Not 00:31:15.554 --> 00:31:23.827 - necessarily. I don't think people necessarily who will have to say it. There are a lot of folks on the 00:31:23.827 --> 00:31:32.341 - on the Hopewell team that do contribute, but they may not directly be responsible for tasks specifically. 00:31:32.341 --> 00:31:34.590 - They may have a big hand in 00:31:34.818 --> 00:31:42.598 - the decision making process, but they may not necessarily be directly responsible for tasks. So I think 00:31:42.598 --> 00:31:50.303 - to start 10 would be enough. It does get, I think it's strange when we're working at this subscription 00:31:50.303 --> 00:31:58.157 - level, which is called pro as opposed to like an enterprise level, the subscriptions start out at three, 00:31:58.157 --> 00:32:01.598 - five, then they go to 10 to 15 to 20. So, um, 00:32:01.954 --> 00:32:08.378 - I thought 10 was good, because otherwise, I don't know, 15 would be too many. That's probably a really 00:32:08.378 --> 00:32:14.739 - long way to answer your question, but 10, yes, 10 feels like it's not. And this is an annual cost, so 00:32:14.739 --> 00:32:21.162 - next year we'll be presumably voting again to renew those seats, because this is like a, I mean, we're 00:32:21.162 --> 00:32:27.711 - going to be in this for a while, more than a year. Yeah, yeah, I would think so. How long has monday.com 00:32:27.711 --> 00:32:31.390 - been around? I don't know. It's a good question. Are they? 00:32:32.098 --> 00:32:39.659 - Yeah, say that again. I think it's pretty well recognized as a project management. Which leads me to, 00:32:39.659 --> 00:32:47.443 - which is where I'm really headed is, are they going to be around for a while? So, I mean. At this point, 00:32:47.443 --> 00:32:55.375 - anything is better? Anything is better. We need project management software. We have far too many projects 00:32:55.375 --> 00:33:00.638 - going on to be operating the way we are. So, John, you had a question? 00:33:02.402 --> 00:33:08.407 - I was just wondering if you had a consultation with IT in terms of either, if any other departments 00:33:08.407 --> 00:33:14.533 - use project management software, what they use. And IT might have a recommendation or they might have 00:33:14.533 --> 00:33:20.779 - recommended what you looked at. I'm just curious kind of how that. Yeah. So you feel like it seems like 00:33:20.779 --> 00:33:26.904 - you want to say something. No. I would just say that that has been sort of on the back burner for IT. 00:33:26.904 --> 00:33:28.766 - And we're kind of hoping that. 00:33:29.218 --> 00:33:37.086 - demonstrate some leadership here and perhaps set a standard. But if not, I mean, that's, you know, then 00:33:37.086 --> 00:33:44.954 - presumably we might switch at some point in the future. So we're probably not just buying this software 00:33:44.954 --> 00:33:50.174 - just for the Hopewell project, but you could use it for any project. 00:33:50.530 --> 00:33:57.472 - The 10 people that have a subscription, yeah, they'll be able to use it for any other projects, not 00:33:57.472 --> 00:34:04.691 - necessarily RDC, but the purposes that I will have you having them use it for is hopeful. Yes, but this 00:34:04.691 --> 00:34:11.772 - is for all RDC projects. Okay, well, I guess you're seeing where I was headed. If this is going to be 00:34:11.772 --> 00:34:17.950 - a city-wide platform, which everybody could maybe benefit from it, why is the RDC paying 00:34:18.818 --> 00:34:26.163 - This is specific for RDC projects. At this point, that is the only reason for Hopewell, all of the other 00:34:26.163 --> 00:34:33.228 - RDC projects, period. We're looking for timeframes, individual tasks in order to identify one single 00:34:33.228 --> 00:34:40.223 - platform that everybody can look at to identify what is being done, what has been done. You're $228 00:34:40.223 --> 00:34:47.358 - per seat. That's on an annual basis, correct? There's no additional subscription plus I'm sure we got 00:34:47.554 --> 00:34:54.361 - how many hours of help in order to do this. I have not heard of monday.com. I looked at some of their 00:34:54.361 --> 00:35:01.302 - videos in order to verify it. It essentially sets up the time frame. It allows you to import and export 00:35:01.302 --> 00:35:07.975 - from Excel. The two primary ones that we deal in these large projects is Procore and Bluebeam. Now, 00:35:07.975 --> 00:35:14.716 - being fiscally responsible based on the size of our RDC projects and such and just starting in this, 00:35:14.716 --> 00:35:17.118 - this is dirt cheap. And it's still, 00:35:17.890 --> 00:35:26.220 - maintains the basics of what you need to manage a project. I'm not questioning the use of it or the 00:35:26.220 --> 00:35:34.633 - purpose of it or the value of it. If this rolls into being a city-wide, everybody in the building is 00:35:34.633 --> 00:35:43.546 - using it, then maybe we ought to come up with a way to share the costs. I agree. That's what I was having. 00:35:43.546 --> 00:35:46.878 - I agree. It's my understanding that the 00:35:47.362 --> 00:35:57.765 - City's been looking for two years at looking at the program. It hasn't come up with one yet. And so, 00:35:57.765 --> 00:36:08.272 - Hopewell can't wait for that continued, you know, going down, kicking that can down the road. So, the 00:36:08.272 --> 00:36:15.070 - purpose was to get something going now for RDC projects, and yes, 00:36:15.266 --> 00:36:25.483 - And it could be that the city chooses something else down the road, and this may morph into something 00:36:25.483 --> 00:36:35.800 - else later. But yes, it's not intended to be something that everybody uses at the expense of RDC. It's 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:44.414 - something for the RDC to use now because it's needed now. And then again, if it does, 00:36:44.834 --> 00:36:55.629 - If the city comes up with one, if it's the same thing, then cost sharing would be very appropriate way 00:36:55.629 --> 00:37:06.843 - forward. But the city has yet to decide on a way forward. Good answer. Thank you. Are you going to require 00:37:06.843 --> 00:37:14.494 - any of our contractors also to utilize the software? Not in the way that 00:37:14.594 --> 00:37:21.564 - seats will. They will be able to view things and I believe comment on them, but they will not be able 00:37:21.564 --> 00:37:28.466 - to alter timelines. You'll have administrative rights in regards to it. It will be able to be looked 00:37:28.466 --> 00:37:35.437 - at. Contractors that engage with the city will be able to add to with your permission or look at what 00:37:35.437 --> 00:37:39.742 - it is so you know where they are from a time frame standpoint. 00:37:40.290 --> 00:37:46.703 - I can't remember if they can add to, but I know they will be able to view. But we are not purchasing 00:37:46.703 --> 00:37:53.433 - licenses or seats. No, not at all. The reason I ask this is in our ProCores, Bluebeams and other software 00:37:53.433 --> 00:37:59.909 - or other project management, there are permissions that are given so that the owner as the manager of 00:37:59.909 --> 00:38:06.386 - the project management software is aware of where the circumstances are. So it's not up to you at all 00:38:06.386 --> 00:38:08.862 - times to always update where they are. 00:38:12.866 --> 00:38:18.086 - And I'm just going to say, I think it's awesome. I really am excited that you're doing this, because 00:38:18.086 --> 00:38:23.513 - I totally appreciate the value of good project management software. And I've used a variety of different 00:38:23.513 --> 00:38:28.681 - kinds based on just my own professional experience, just even with clients, because everybody's got 00:38:28.681 --> 00:38:33.850 - something different, and I've got to figure out how to use it. I have not used Monday.com, although 00:38:33.850 --> 00:38:37.726 - I have heard very good things about it. My one just kind of suggestion is, 00:38:39.106 --> 00:38:44.086 - and it's not going to be like, oh, all of a sudden everything's dumped in here. I know it takes time 00:38:44.086 --> 00:38:49.017 - to build it up, but just to maybe trial it with a project, make sure it's doing what you need it to 00:38:49.017 --> 00:38:53.997 - do just because once you're in, if you realize there's things that maybe aren't quite what you hoped 00:38:53.997 --> 00:38:59.027 - it would be or not working perfectly, it's harder to pull out because it's just so embedded in there. 00:38:59.027 --> 00:39:03.070 - And if there's a lot of projects that are embedded on there, it even becomes more 00:39:03.362 --> 00:39:09.298 - of that commitment, so just trying to kind of test it out, make sure it's doing what you need it to 00:39:09.298 --> 00:39:15.472 - do, because there are other options if you're like, well, it's not really doing X or Y that we've hoped 00:39:15.472 --> 00:39:21.468 - it would, and it's a little easier to extract yourself if you've kind of not maybe overcommitted, at 00:39:21.468 --> 00:39:27.523 - least in the first quarter or two quarters or whatever. I appreciate that. I have been working within 00:39:27.523 --> 00:39:32.510 - a trial that Monday.com gave, and I've actually asked them to extend it generously. 00:39:32.802 --> 00:39:38.748 - I have been, you're right, there is a learning curve to getting it set up in a really logical way that 00:39:38.748 --> 00:39:44.694 - works. And that's taken a little bit of time, but I'm hopeful that I've got a good thing going. So far 00:39:44.694 --> 00:39:50.352 - so good. So far so good. I haven't been using it with the team because they don't have seats yet, 00:39:50.352 --> 00:39:56.240 - but yeah. Thanks for initiating it again. I think it's a great move and I will look forward to having 00:39:56.240 --> 00:39:59.646 - RDC projects embedded in that. Thank you for your support. 00:40:00.322 --> 00:40:09.449 - Okay, so we've had Commissioner comments any public comment on resolution 26 dash 41 41. Thank you Not 00:40:09.449 --> 00:40:18.487 - seeing anything online or in person I will ask for a motion motion to approve Resolution 26 41 second 00:40:18.487 --> 00:40:28.766 - got a first and a second all in favor say aye. Aye Any opposed pass unanimously Okay, you're on to resolution 26 42 00:40:29.058 --> 00:40:37.590 - which is authorization for a designee to set a litigation through mediation on behalf of the Blue Newton 00:40:37.590 --> 00:40:46.121 - RDC. Who would like to speak to that? Yes, sir. I can do that. There is a mediation in the two appellate 00:40:46.121 --> 00:40:54.328 - court cases which are stemming from the trial court cases which have been resolved as far as motions 00:40:54.328 --> 00:40:57.822 - for summary judgment, but there's not been 00:40:58.274 --> 00:41:07.669 - any further action taken in the trial court cases pending these Court of Appeals cases. But on June 00:41:07.669 --> 00:41:17.346 - 29th, there is a forewarned technologies in the Board of Relators. There is a mediation scheduled half 00:41:17.346 --> 00:41:26.366 - a day for each. And it has been suggested that Deborah Meyerson would be the representative for 00:41:26.466 --> 00:41:37.872 - the Redevelopment Commission. And what we're asking for in this resolution is for the RDC to authorize 00:41:37.872 --> 00:41:49.278 - Deborah Meyerson as the president of RDC to settle litigation and mediation related to trial court and 00:41:49.278 --> 00:41:56.254 - court of appeals cases with the Bloomington Board of Realtors, 00:41:56.578 --> 00:42:08.199 - and worn technologies LLC as was identified in the resolution. So this is giving the authority again 00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:19.820 - to Debra Meyerson to be that representative that can speak on behalf of the entire RDC when it comes 00:42:19.820 --> 00:42:26.494 - to mediation. There was an executive session held earlier 00:42:26.754 --> 00:42:38.124 - to discuss litigation and what boundaries might be appropriate. And so there is guidance for Deborah 00:42:38.124 --> 00:42:49.719 - Meyerson on that. So this is the, again, allowing Deborah Meyerson to be able to enter into agreements 00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:54.334 - should they be reached during mediation. 00:42:57.730 --> 00:43:05.884 - I'm gonna invite for questions or comments from commissioners, but since I'm kind of hot seat on this 00:43:05.884 --> 00:43:14.358 - proposal, I'm gonna start, which I don't usually do, which is I wanted to propose there are two different 00:43:14.358 --> 00:43:22.432 - complainants named in here and wanted to offer to split that because of the time commitment involved 00:43:22.432 --> 00:43:24.670 - and the expertise involved. 00:43:25.154 --> 00:43:32.497 - so that the RDC might authorize two. And I wanted to propose that Randy Cassidy might split that with 00:43:32.497 --> 00:43:40.344 - me, if that would be amenable to all RDC members, where we might each take one of the different complainants 00:43:40.344 --> 00:43:47.615 - to participate on behalf of the RDC. And so I'll just put that out there for, or just generally open 00:43:47.615 --> 00:43:54.238 - for comment. I want this read. I'm fine with that. I'll open it in its capacity whatsoever. 00:43:54.850 --> 00:44:02.893 - What's that? I'm happy to help in any capacity whatsoever to help get resolution in our community and 00:44:02.893 --> 00:44:10.857 - for the government. As long as, that sounds good to me, as long as it works from a legal standpoint. 00:44:10.857 --> 00:44:18.900 - Do we need the resolution to be specific at this point to say, because we have and or language in the 00:44:18.900 --> 00:44:23.710 - resolution. We just need to say. Or we just. And or because. 00:44:24.034 --> 00:44:34.118 - Not knowing if there would be an RDC representative available. So then it would allow the Corporation 00:44:34.118 --> 00:44:44.499 - Council, who is by statute authorized to handle the legal affairs for the city of Bloomington, including 00:44:44.499 --> 00:44:53.694 - the RDC. We could put, what I would suggest would be to put Deborah Meyerson or her designee 00:44:54.594 --> 00:45:05.806 - And then she could simply write, you know, designate whomever would be in her place to fill in for her. 00:45:05.806 --> 00:45:16.586 - That whatever makes sense for the residents. Okay, I'll follow on here. We will follow on how to do 00:45:16.586 --> 00:45:23.486 - that. Okay, any other comments or questions from commissioners? 00:45:24.194 --> 00:45:32.211 - Yeah, I need to recuse myself from voting because I am a member of BBOR. Okay, thank you. If you want 00:45:32.211 --> 00:45:40.228 - to leave in or in there so that the Cooperation Council could settle if for some reason our PC member 00:45:40.228 --> 00:45:48.638 - couldn't be. I think that would be helpful to cover the bases within the resolution as it's written. Okay. 00:45:51.938 --> 00:46:00.743 - So I will open resolution 26-43 for public comment, either in person or online. Not seeing any, I will 00:46:00.743 --> 00:46:09.291 - ask for a motion. Move approval of resolution 26-42. Second. We've got a first and a second. All in 00:46:09.291 --> 00:46:18.095 - favor say aye. Aye. And one abstention. So we've got four in favor and one abstention. Thank you. Next 00:46:18.095 --> 00:46:20.318 - item on the agenda is the 00:46:20.482 --> 00:46:28.104 - 26-43, which is the approval of the 2026 annual action plan. Who would like to speak to that? I'm happy 00:46:28.104 --> 00:46:35.726 - to speak to that. So as you know, we are a participating jurisdiction and an entitlement community that 00:46:35.726 --> 00:46:43.055 - basically means that we get an annual allocation of home investment partnership funds and community 00:46:43.055 --> 00:46:43.934 - development 00:46:44.130 --> 00:46:52.374 - block grant, CDBG funds. Every year as part of that, we have to provide a plan called an annual action 00:46:52.374 --> 00:47:00.617 - plan before our funding for the next calendar year is approved. We also have to provide a caper, which 00:47:00.617 --> 00:47:08.701 - is basically an end of year report. How did you do? How was the funding used? We have learned in the 00:47:08.701 --> 00:47:10.622 - last year that the best 00:47:10.850 --> 00:47:17.205 - practices is to bring the annual action plan to you for formal adoption, just to say, yes, we reviewed 00:47:17.205 --> 00:47:23.374 - it. We're good with it. Essentially, we have already been to you guys for a good majority of what's 00:47:23.374 --> 00:47:29.852 - in the annual action plan, which is the allocations that were decided by the Citizen Advisory Commission 00:47:29.852 --> 00:47:36.083 - earlier last year. However, this is the formal plan. Our program years run from June 1st to May 31st 00:47:36.083 --> 00:47:37.502 - of each calendar year. 00:47:38.050 --> 00:47:44.891 - HUD didn't announce their allocations until late so we have a certain amount of time in which to publicly 00:47:44.891 --> 00:47:51.409 - notice the annual action plan for at least 30 days and then submit to HUD. We technically have until 00:47:51.409 --> 00:47:57.863 - August 15th to submit but after your formal approval this would be going straight to them hopefully 00:47:57.863 --> 00:48:04.510 - this week sometime so that would just allow them to approve the projects that were voted on by the CIC 00:48:04.642 --> 00:48:11.716 - and officially approve our allocations and start our program here. So I know this is strange for you 00:48:11.716 --> 00:48:18.721 - because you've already seen the projects and you don't normally vote on the annual action plan. But 00:48:18.721 --> 00:48:25.865 - moving forward, it would likely be that we will start bringing the allocations and annual action plan 00:48:25.865 --> 00:48:32.869 - to you at the same time for approval. Okay, thank you. Any questions or comments from commissioners 00:48:32.869 --> 00:48:34.270 - on resolution 2643? 00:48:34.914 --> 00:48:42.466 - presented. This just cleans up everything. Yeah we don't technically need to do this but this is just 00:48:42.466 --> 00:48:49.944 - best practices to make sure that we're getting as much public participation as possible in our plan. 00:48:49.944 --> 00:48:57.496 - It has been out for notice I think May 22nd or April 22nd to May 22nd so it has been out for 30 days. 00:48:57.496 --> 00:49:04.382 - We've also had a lot of CAC meetings so it's had a lot of public scrutiny the way that it is 00:49:06.562 --> 00:49:14.610 - For transparency. Appreciate that. Any other questions or comments from commissioners? We'll open it 00:49:14.610 --> 00:49:22.896 - for public comment, either online or in person. Seeing none, I'll ask for a motion for resolution 2643. 00:49:22.896 --> 00:49:30.944 - I move to approve 26-43. Thank you. And I will just say that all projects are based on applications. 00:49:30.944 --> 00:49:35.326 - Applications for the 27 funding year will be opened up 00:49:35.842 --> 00:49:42.432 - around August, September. So, we're at the mercy of who applies. So, if you have an awesome project, 00:49:42.432 --> 00:49:49.087 - apply. Thank you. Okay. We have one, a motion. We have a second. We have a first and a second. All in 00:49:49.087 --> 00:49:55.612 - favor say aye. Aye. The opposed? Passes unanimously. Thank you. We are on to resolution 2644, which 00:49:55.612 --> 00:50:02.398 - is the approval of an agreement with Marshall Security LLC for security patrols at Hopewell Properties. 00:50:02.398 --> 00:50:04.094 - Would they speak to that? 00:50:04.226 --> 00:50:12.176 - Happy to speak to you about that again. So last year you guys approved a year of security patrols at 00:50:12.176 --> 00:50:20.676 - the Hopewell site. They have been beneficial to us. I know we went back and forth on what is the frequency? 00:50:20.676 --> 00:50:28.626 - How long should they be there? How long are we gonna keep this up? The truth is that we get a number 00:50:28.626 --> 00:50:31.774 - of reports that they respond to weekly, 00:50:32.098 --> 00:50:39.933 - some daily, I would say definitely weekly. We have a lot of attractive nuisances. So we have the 714 00:50:39.933 --> 00:50:47.768 - South Rogers Street building, which is vacant, that has attracted a lot of incidents. But the number 00:50:47.768 --> 00:50:55.680 - one site that we've had more reports on is the garage. So it too is an attractive nuisance. It's cool 00:50:55.680 --> 00:51:01.886 - in the summer. The fencing keeps getting pulled down. So we're trying to deploy 00:51:02.242 --> 00:51:11.522 - someone to go repair that again. But as we start construction and get more heavy equipment out there, 00:51:11.522 --> 00:51:20.711 - it seems like potentially a bad idea to pull back from security. Some activity during the day may be 00:51:20.711 --> 00:51:30.082 - a good thing. It's what happens after that that I'm concerned with. So what's before you is a contract 00:51:30.082 --> 00:51:31.902 - to approve the same 00:51:32.066 --> 00:51:39.869 - cadence and frequency that we've been on the same schedule for another year. I'm happy to discuss 00:51:39.869 --> 00:51:48.149 - alternatives. I believe it's $28 and 11 cents per hour and we're on 12 hour shifts and those are varied 00:51:48.149 --> 00:51:56.350 - shifts. So it's not nine to nine or whatever. It's just so that there's some infrequency for visitors. 00:51:59.426 --> 00:52:06.125 - for that presentation. Any questions or comments from commissioners on resolution 2644? My only comment 00:52:06.125 --> 00:52:12.567 - in regards to the 714 building, I'd really like to at least get our structural report at some point 00:52:12.567 --> 00:52:19.266 - in order to at least identify where we think we're going with that. It has to be secured and maintained 00:52:19.266 --> 00:52:26.288 - and from my experience of being out of multiple hours of the night, Marshall security is there significantly 00:52:26.288 --> 00:52:28.478 - in regards to even if you pull in 00:52:28.610 --> 00:52:35.710 - So they're doing a good job. Just be nice to get ourselves to the point where we're not having to worry 00:52:35.710 --> 00:52:42.674 - about security because we've got enough residents and activity in that area. At this point, we're not 00:52:42.674 --> 00:52:49.707 - there. I do believe that those reports will be forthcoming soon. We do not have a final draft yet, but 00:52:49.707 --> 00:52:52.574 - Anna Dragovich has been working very hard 00:52:57.602 --> 00:53:04.342 - questions or comments. I'm wondering what this kind of agreement, it just would be interesting, and 00:53:04.342 --> 00:53:11.082 - I don't know if it can be appended later, just a summary of what the activity has been on the site, 00:53:11.082 --> 00:53:17.216 - you know, just a one-pager of like, you know, which sites and how many incidences and what 00:53:17.216 --> 00:53:24.023 - kind of incidences. It just would kind of help reinforce the value of this service. Well, that's why 00:53:24.023 --> 00:53:27.326 - I was saying a summary, right, in terms of like, 00:53:27.458 --> 00:53:33.899 - you know, which address and what kind of, and then what number of those kinds. They range widely from 00:53:33.899 --> 00:53:40.277 - incidents. Yes, it won't fit on one page. We can get you some sort of summary, but you may not touch 00:53:40.277 --> 00:53:46.780 - on it. That's something that will take a lot of staff time. Yeah, something that hopefully you already 00:53:46.780 --> 00:53:53.158 - have. It can just be, you know, use AI and then say, give me a summary of what you already have. And 00:53:53.158 --> 00:53:56.126 - they may be able to spit out from their system 00:53:56.866 --> 00:54:03.393 - They have to record it. Right. They send me an email every time something happens, so they're filling 00:54:03.393 --> 00:54:09.920 - my inbox. Okay, okay. Well, I appreciate certainly the verbal report and it just seemed like it would 00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:16.447 - be helpful to have that. And my other question is, let's say once construction does get started, what 00:54:16.447 --> 00:54:22.974 - typically is the, let's say, role or division between, let's say RDC owns the property, but there may 00:54:22.974 --> 00:54:24.510 - be, again, equipment or 00:54:24.642 --> 00:54:31.705 - other that the actual developer construction team, is there any kind of splitting of costs for stuff 00:54:31.705 --> 00:54:38.907 - like that, or is that really just the property owner? That's a really good question. I'm going to have 00:54:38.907 --> 00:54:45.970 - to defer to legal. I think once we have construction crews there, I mean, if they're putting them in 00:54:45.970 --> 00:54:53.662 - the infrastructure, there are crews that are out there. So it'd be up to that contract. Yeah, the contractor. 00:54:54.274 --> 00:55:06.551 - providing their own security for their own things. It's like all the other contracts we've had, they 00:55:06.551 --> 00:55:19.193 - must provide security for their own equipment. But to the extent that we're also the developer, there's 00:55:19.193 --> 00:55:23.326 - going to be things there that the 00:55:23.586 --> 00:55:32.577 - you know, like the city's installing on behalf of the RDC that still needs to be covered and just overall 00:55:32.577 --> 00:55:41.059 - security of the site as individual builders would be working on individual, you know, wads. There's 00:55:41.059 --> 00:55:49.965 - still the entire project site and the areas that aren't being developed at a particular time, so they're 00:55:49.965 --> 00:55:52.510 - still going to need security. 00:55:52.706 --> 00:56:00.817 - So there's still going to be security needs, as well as the 714 building. There's still going to be 00:56:00.817 --> 00:56:09.415 - security needs there, even while others are on site. No, we would not have liability for their equipment. 00:56:09.415 --> 00:56:17.850 - But to the extent that there are things that are the RDC, then yes, the RDC would want to protect those 00:56:17.850 --> 00:56:21.662 - assets. Thank you for that visual information. 00:56:23.138 --> 00:56:30.373 - Okay. If there's nothing else from commissioners, I'll open 2644 for public comment, either online or 00:56:30.373 --> 00:56:37.751 - in person. Seeing none, I will ask for a motion. Move approval of resolution 2644, agreement to acquire 00:56:37.751 --> 00:56:45.554 - security. Second. We've got a first and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. 00:56:45.554 --> 00:56:46.334 - Thank you. 00:56:47.522 --> 00:56:55.142 - The last item on the business tonight is the resolution 2645, which is the approval of an amendment 00:56:55.142 --> 00:57:03.067 - of maintenance of property owned by the Readabout Commission of the City of Bloomington. Who would like 00:57:03.067 --> 00:57:10.839 - to speak to that? I am happy to speak to you about that again. So in January, you guys approved up to 00:57:10.839 --> 00:57:14.878 - $300,000 for the maintenance of your REC properties. 00:57:15.490 --> 00:57:24.722 - Unfortunately, we're noticing we're at the halfway point for this calendar year. And so we've spent 00:57:24.722 --> 00:57:34.139 - about $150,000, $149,962.58 to date as of June 12th when this was run. And if we anticipate receiving 00:57:34.139 --> 00:57:42.910 - the utility bills as we have thus far this year, we will completely commit all of our funding. 00:57:43.330 --> 00:57:51.080 - additional needs that are coming in, whether that's what happened at the forge or whatnot. So I'm a 00:57:51.080 --> 00:57:59.296 - little bit concerned and just want to make sure that we have some cushion to be able to respond as nimbly 00:57:59.296 --> 00:58:07.279 - as possible to any building issues. So as an exhibit to your resolution, there's a breakdown as to how 00:58:07.279 --> 00:58:11.774 - we've spent that funding. So utilities was about $86,390. 00:58:12.962 --> 00:58:24.938 - Showers West maintenance was $36,000. College Square was a little over $5,000 at $53.90. Trades District 00:58:24.938 --> 00:58:36.344 - was a little over $10,000. $10,773.76. 627 North Morton was $2,100. 4th Street Garage was $454. And 00:58:36.344 --> 00:58:40.222 - mowing thus far has been $85,000. 00:58:42.274 --> 00:58:50.851 - That is why the resolution is back before you. When we were trying to process some invoices, we noticed 00:58:50.851 --> 00:58:59.263 - this last week or the week before that we were likely going to have an issue with some of our blanket 00:58:59.263 --> 00:59:07.593 - POs for our utilities if we move forward in the same capacity. Just curious, do you happen to have a 00:59:07.593 --> 00:59:08.830 - number on what 00:59:09.122 --> 00:59:16.734 - I'm just talking just utilities, because those tend to be more predictable than, you know, maintenance. 00:59:16.734 --> 00:59:23.833 - But just what that might have been, let's say, for 2025, I guess, calendar year, or fiscal year, 00:59:23.833 --> 00:59:31.591 - I'm not sure, but previous year. We could run a report that shows everything paid, like, say, Duke Energy 00:59:31.591 --> 00:59:38.910 - or a specific place. But we do have a project code that it will show us everything paid to our 2602 00:59:39.394 --> 00:59:44.929 - But that won't just be utilities. That would be everything. I mean, it could be done, but we have to 00:59:44.929 --> 00:59:50.573 - get that. We have to get that. Yeah. To compare in terms of even a ballpark for next time we authorize 00:59:50.573 --> 00:59:56.163 - this for them. Anyway, so sorry. I wanted to open that open to all commissioners like this. Hopefully 00:59:56.163 --> 01:00:01.150 - we can dispose of some property where this won't be an issue in 27 levels. Yeah. That was. 01:00:02.594 --> 01:00:08.616 - in regards to these ongoing expenses while we need to hold ourselves and maintain to the highest standard 01:00:08.616 --> 01:00:14.639 - because, you know, we expect everybody in the private sector to do that. We have to maintain and continue 01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:20.433 - these properties, but we also have to look as we've discussed previously of the timeframe in order to 01:00:20.433 --> 01:00:26.569 - dispose of them on some of these properties that are non-tax generating and obviously maintenance expenses. 01:00:26.569 --> 01:00:32.478 - So we get them back into productive use in our community and employment and housing. Well, we know that 01:00:32.930 --> 01:00:39.789 - or we never anticipate fairly substantial utilities increases next year as well. So, I mean, 01:00:39.789 --> 01:00:47.385 - in all utilities, we know that the CVU was working on finishing up a rate case in water and then moved 01:00:47.385 --> 01:00:52.990 - on to wastewater. You know, eight to 10% in Duke, similar with Centerpoint. 01:00:54.018 --> 01:01:01.745 - And my concern is just a matter of those expenses will be ongoing. There's not revenues coming in to 01:01:01.745 --> 01:01:09.395 - offset any of those. And these are non-tax generating properties. Correct. And you have Duke bills. 01:01:09.395 --> 01:01:17.199 - And I flagged this before for you. But Duke bills in Showers West that are $8,000, $9,000, $7,000. So 01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:23.166 - very expensive utilities there. It's an older building with vaulted ceilings. 01:01:24.162 --> 01:01:32.706 - insulation and individual HVAC units that are likely at the end of their life cycle. So, you know, 01:01:32.706 --> 01:01:41.596 - we have, it's an expensive building for utilities. Okay. We have discussed too, maybe next year having 01:01:41.596 --> 01:01:50.226 - two separate resolutions, one for utilities and one for maintenance. So you can see them separately 01:01:50.226 --> 01:01:54.110 - and that may help you keep better, you know, 01:01:54.850 --> 01:02:03.725 - Yeah. End result comes down, try to cut the expenses that we can and not have something that we're owning 01:02:03.725 --> 01:02:12.516 - as a city that we're not utilizing. Okay. Personal opinion. Thank you. Anything else from commissioners? 01:02:12.516 --> 01:02:21.055 - Yeah. Are you not bringing this to us a little prematurely? We are, but it has to do with the blanket 01:02:21.055 --> 01:02:23.902 - POs for the utilities if they are 01:02:24.354 --> 01:02:31.063 - projected, so I'll let you guys explain. Well, right now we have like 124,000 that's just basically 01:02:31.063 --> 01:02:37.974 - encumbered from that 300,000. So it's showing right now we only have like 15,000 available that we can 01:02:37.974 --> 01:02:44.751 - use. In reality, there's more than that, but that amount will already be used through the end of the 01:02:44.751 --> 01:02:51.527 - year. So does that make sense? Because it's earmarking for those utilities for the rest of the year, 01:02:51.527 --> 01:02:53.406 - anticipating what's needed. 01:02:54.082 --> 01:02:59.902 - And they have to open them up as a blanket purchase order. So we can modify that and reduce it. But 01:02:59.902 --> 01:03:05.839 - the problem is going to be the same as we go through the year no matter what. So I'd rather nip it in 01:03:05.839 --> 01:03:11.950 - the bud. And so that we can respond when I get somebody calling and saying, hey, we have water intrusion 01:03:11.950 --> 01:03:18.062 - issue. Do you want me to wait for the next RDC meeting for approval? I'm just saying, no, go. The reason 01:03:18.062 --> 01:03:22.718 - I ask that is not that you don't have the expenses, but you're throwing a dart. 01:03:22.818 --> 01:03:29.554 - As to what you need, we are and so I was thinking with three more months. Payout, you'll have a better 01:03:29.554 --> 01:03:36.225 - idea. That's all I'm saying. We won't have to come back at this. You want to come back to the trough? 01:03:36.225 --> 01:03:42.830 - I know you will, but well, that's why I'm hoping that 50,000 colors will get us a little bit further 01:03:42.830 --> 01:03:49.631 - down the road. It may not be enough. Jeff, you're no, I mean, I was just saying you pretty much already 01:03:49.631 --> 01:03:51.070 - said it that that the 01:03:51.266 --> 01:03:57.714 - utilities was essentially already obligated, even though we haven't actually spent it. It's kind of 01:03:57.714 --> 01:04:04.355 - consuming a lot of that ceiling because of that open purchase order. And it doesn't make sense at this 01:04:04.355 --> 01:04:10.803 - point to bring you a resolution that says, let's now track utilities separately. Because of the way 01:04:10.803 --> 01:04:16.606 - that our system works, you have to give it a project code that you can't really peel back 01:04:17.218 --> 01:04:26.180 - So it would be very difficult to run reports. Maybe at the beginning of 27, it would be wise to separate 01:04:26.180 --> 01:04:34.801 - them at that point. But right now, I'm not sure that it does. OK. Thank you. If there's nothing else 01:04:34.801 --> 01:04:43.592 - from commissioners, I will open it for public comment either online or in person for resolution 26-45. 01:04:43.592 --> 01:04:46.750 - Seeing none, I will ask for a motion 01:04:53.218 --> 01:05:01.904 - resolution 2645 for maintenance of property. I already see property. I will second it. First and a second 01:05:01.904 --> 01:05:10.508 - all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. That concludes our new business for tonight. 01:05:10.508 --> 01:05:18.867 - Any outstanding items before we adjourn? One last comment just to verify you are working on trying to 01:05:18.867 --> 01:05:22.718 - dispose of some of this in the next year. Yes. 01:05:23.330 --> 01:05:33.188 - And the last RDC report that we provided at the previous meeting, you should have seen that the resolution 01:05:33.188 --> 01:05:42.770 - for appraisals, which usually goes untouched, has been being drawn down. Excellent. Thank you for that. 01:05:42.770 --> 01:05:50.878 - Okay. I will take a motion to adjourn. So moved. Okay. We are adjourned. Thank you all.