WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.000 - We want to invite for interviews as a reminder for everybody and anybody who might see this later. 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:10.870 - And what we decided is that this year will only call the interviews people that we had for 00:00:10.870 --> 00:00:17.620 - questions for, rather than sort of, you know, asking everybody to come for interviews, both for the 00:00:17.620 --> 00:00:21.000 - sake of the applicants and for for our own sake. 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:30.000 - But, naturally, and then we need to do the, do we have the documents the conflict of interest forms. 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:37.560 - That's what I wanted to touch on that before we get started. Is there anybody here who has any type 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:41.000 - of conflict to close. 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:47.000 - It's not self disclosure. 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:52.000 - Yes, newly new life. I'm a director of your board. 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:57.000 - Okay. 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:01.000 - Or you said, New Life New Leaf New Life New Leaf, okay. 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:07.520 - I'm the executive director of South African action program so Audrey keys myself when it comes to 00:01:07.520 --> 00:01:09.000 - our application. 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:18.220 - Okay, you have a conflict in the sense of a pecuniary interest in any of the applications. Yes, yes, 00:01:18.220 --> 00:01:19.000 - yes. 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:24.000 - Okay, for me. Okay. 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:30.870 - So what we did what we did last year, and what we agreed to do this year is that just again they'll 00:01:30.870 --> 00:01:37.770 - sign disclosing that and then neither will be in the room and we discuss either scape or new leaf 00:01:37.770 --> 00:01:42.000 - new life so when we discuss them we'll put them at the end. 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:50.000 - Same thing for presentations and so on. 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:58.000 - Okay, thank you, forward the disclosure forms to you and then we can complete that. Thank you. 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:07.000 - So, so are the main point of the agenda them is to decide who you wanted to call for interviews. 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:11.390 - What would be the most useful way to do that should we just go down like alphabetical order and 00:02:11.390 --> 00:02:14.000 - just people say yes no and just move on from there. 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:20.420 - Yeah, there is there specific criteria that we're, we're just like, I want to hear from them. Yeah. 00:02:20.420 --> 00:02:25.050 - I mean if you if you if you have questions that aren't answered if it would be useful to have the 00:02:25.050 --> 00:02:27.000 - time to hear more from them that's not an application, 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.000 - then we should run into an interview. Super. 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:37.900 - And, I mean, I think we can say that, you know, if any more than two of us want to hear from them 00:02:37.900 --> 00:02:40.000 - we shouldn't read them. 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:48.000 - So, is this a place where we can express. 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:54.070 - Not just that we don't want to hear from them, we just don't think there is certainly mark of 00:02:54.070 --> 00:02:57.000 - certainly being eligible for the certainly. 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:01.420 - Of course, and sorry I and I got ahead of myself, we should make one decision first before we do 00:03:01.420 --> 00:03:04.000 - this which is we didn't have one late application. 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:10.000 - And we had one incomplete application. 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:16.290 - And then depending how we want to view them filling out the summary with, you know, you might count 00:03:16.290 --> 00:03:21.000 - incompleteness a little bit larger but so so the first question is about. 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:35.000 - The families. Yeah, just one additional comment with respect to all of the applications there were 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:35.000 - three applications where we couldn't determine whether the applicants were. 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:52.000 - Or one see threes. So I don't know that that warrants like following the applicant in for a meeting, 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:52.000 - but we need to do some more research and contacting them and requesting some more information. 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:56.430 - I don't know what we agreed on last time in terms of what we can request via email in terms of like 00:03:56.430 --> 00:04:01.110 - missing information is that that's yeah, we're also we're also at this point if you don't want to 00:04:01.110 --> 00:04:06.400 - bring them into interview just want to send them a few questions for example that that's also 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:08.000 - something we can do. 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:13.560 - I remember last year we had one applicant application that came in. I want to say it was maybe 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:14.000 - wheeler. 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:19.460 - It was it was just like you hope this was a little bit late. Do you remember that. Yeah. And what 00:04:19.460 --> 00:04:25.000 - did we do, did we say, I think we accepted their application but I don't think they want to grant. 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:32.030 - Okay, I believe that was the case decided to go ahead and still consider that. Yeah. Yeah, I 00:04:32.030 --> 00:04:37.000 - thought it was in before we met that like. 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:44.000 - Yeah, I just didn't want to apply different standards. No. 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:49.300 - My only concern is that if that if we if we accept people like that are in our deadlines, you know 00:04:49.300 --> 00:04:54.000 - it's like okay well how late is is too late like at what point do we stop being late. 00:04:54.000 --> 00:05:00.770 - Which case was our deadline a real deadline or was it a be advised deadline there. I mean the new 00:05:00.770 --> 00:05:07.000 - hope application was eight minutes, but then their financial disclosure was like a week after that. 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:11.000 - Yeah, but then there are a couple in here that can even include budgets for their. 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:20.860 - So, you know, I don't know what that means, but just that's fair. Exactly. So, any other thoughts 00:05:20.860 --> 00:05:23.000 - discussions before we because we should vote officially. 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:29.440 - We should vote officially on this but any other thoughts or discussions Dave any thoughts on the 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:31.000 - late application. 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.000 - No, I don't but I wondered about. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:39.000 - It looks like there are collaborative there's beacon has applied. 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:44.000 - And then there's a collaborative effort that that includes beacon. 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:49.420 - Double application. Have you, have you experienced that in the past. Yeah, we explicitly allow it 00:05:49.420 --> 00:05:54.130 - in the application we said that you're allowed to only apply once except for if you're doing a 00:05:54.130 --> 00:05:57.000 - collaborative in which case you can. 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:00.000 - We will we will entertain it. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:06.000 - I mean to say is do you, I mean, doesn't mean exclusion of one versus the other. 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:11.000 - No, they should be viewed separately. 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:18.640 - Last year we did make a choice and we chose one over the other, because I think we felt. Well, 00:06:18.640 --> 00:06:25.000 - there were other reasons, but we did not work into awards last year. 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:30.320 - There was some reasoning there. I feel like it was because the we gave them the individual award. 00:06:30.320 --> 00:06:35.150 - It was because of their partner was it wasn't that was part of it. But I might say let's let's I 00:06:35.150 --> 00:06:41.090 - mean I think that's maybe not super pertinent to both to the question on the table or to the or to 00:06:41.090 --> 00:06:46.930 - the application today but you know that I think the core question right now is what what do you 00:06:46.930 --> 00:06:53.000 - have any other thoughts about new hope, the eight minute late application. 00:06:53.000 --> 00:07:01.770 - Yes, I want, I want to say that we shouldn't allow it, but I, I've personally love new hope but I 00:07:01.770 --> 00:07:09.340 - think being late is, I mean, what's the, like you said, is there a deadline just arbitrary at that 00:07:09.340 --> 00:07:10.000 - point. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:13.000 - But I mean I will go with the group. 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.000 - So circumstances wouldn't be relevant. 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.000 - I think circumstances are relevant. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:22.720 - I wouldn't ask what the circumstances were. Well, yeah, that would be a question because I know 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:27.130 - that there is something I grew in regards to new hope I'm not I'm just not able to put my finger on 00:07:27.130 --> 00:07:32.000 - it because I'm in an organization that they, they were asked to be 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.000 - present and they weren't. 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:40.240 - I don't know if there's any change around in who who works there, or whatever, and I think that it 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:44.000 - was said that this wasn't the first time that they were late. 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:48.000 - Yeah, yeah, it's all fair points. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:55.900 - Um, I'd be I would say I was so my thought I didn't want to share my thoughts too early to sweat on 00:07:55.900 --> 00:08:02.360 - a sway either way but my, my, my thoughts are that I'd be inclined to include it, but I think that 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:06.000 - this needs to inform how we talk about our deadline. 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:12.870 - You know which which is to say, you know, something more like the deadline is the time we open the 00:08:12.870 --> 00:08:19.000 - emails, the day of the, you know, 8am on whatever day or something like that. 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:27.100 - Um, at your time. Yeah, you know, you know, but but so so that that would be my, my thinking I mean 00:08:27.100 --> 00:08:34.560 - again, the core purpose of this of this board is to work together with nonprofits to deal with 00:08:34.560 --> 00:08:38.000 - significant issues in Bloomington. 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:44.620 - And I kind of feel like for us to arbitrate not arbitrarily, that's not a fair way of saying it but 00:08:44.620 --> 00:08:50.730 - for us to legalistically remove a group that may be doing something that we want to see happen in 00:08:50.730 --> 00:08:54.000 - Bloomington on virtue of it's kind of like a saying well the group 00:08:54.000 --> 00:09:00.040 - didn't do it so the hundred people that they want to serve shouldn't get a chance to be surveyed. I 00:09:00.040 --> 00:09:03.280 - think it's actually has less to do with the organization than it does to do with what they're 00:09:03.280 --> 00:09:04.000 - trying to do. 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:09.460 - And so, so that that would be my view, and like the other part is like we're primarily serving 00:09:09.460 --> 00:09:13.000 - understaffed exactly organizations who are operating. 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:18.580 - Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I do believe also that the circumstances, I would like to get, you know, if 00:09:18.580 --> 00:09:22.000 - there's more information as to what is happening with me. 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:26.590 - But now, which may be new hope with maybe the least the second question which is, you know, maybe 00:09:26.590 --> 00:09:31.000 - we want to bring them to an interview task but but I mean so we should ask them to interview. 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:38.330 - But first we have to decide if we want to include them so any other any other thoughts or debate 00:09:38.330 --> 00:09:43.000 - around around including them and then we can vote. 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:50.570 - Yeah, I never happened. I mean, is there a precedent or anything. I mean, I mean, I do agree with 00:09:50.570 --> 00:09:54.000 - you but did we did you exclude anyone last year. 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:57.000 - Last year I think we included someone who was late. 00:09:57.000 --> 00:10:03.000 - Okay, well, and that were they, this was eight minutes late, you said. Yeah. 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:09.000 - And what were they late last year do you know where they are a day late. 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:17.450 - It wasn't new year last year was a different organization. But what, what was the time. Oh, I don't 00:10:17.450 --> 00:10:22.000 - remember. Okay. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:30.770 - 15 minutes or something I mean I would be distressed if it were like days late, you know, or, you 00:10:30.770 --> 00:10:35.000 - know, eight minutes is, you know, yeah. 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:41.380 - But I do think I do think again that you know we if we are to vote yes to include them. I would 00:10:41.380 --> 00:10:46.450 - just say that for us to keep this in our notes, so that when we do this again that we change how we 00:10:46.450 --> 00:10:49.000 - describe our deadline. 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.000 - Yeah. 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:57.140 - All right, well then, is it okay do we can we just do a voice vote we don't need to like even vote. 00:10:57.140 --> 00:11:03.000 - Okay. But voting on whether we're going to include them or not. 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:09.220 - And they're already included at this point right right but whether we're going to consider them so 00:11:09.220 --> 00:11:15.490 - yeah I mean I guess that's that's the point so and so is there is there anybody opposed to us 00:11:15.490 --> 00:11:16.000 - including them. 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:23.830 - None. Okay. So, in which case that seems like we have consent to include them. Same, so I am going 00:11:23.830 --> 00:11:31.000 - to then assume same questions with the people who didn't submit summaries. 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:39.700 - And the people who didn't include budgets, are we happy to. I mean the I mean the summaries I think 00:11:39.700 --> 00:11:46.420 - is, we can review them as as is that we I mean the thank you very much for filling filling those 00:11:46.420 --> 00:11:47.000 - out. 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:54.000 - The, those who didn't include like but there's like two who didn't include budgets, I believe. 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:56.000 - Is that correct. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:02.000 - There's also the highlighted yellow with that. 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.000 - Is it regards to the 501 C3. 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.000 - We identified some. Yes. 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:12.860 - Yeah, I think there is a highlight to maybe three agencies that can confirm 501 C3 status based on 00:12:12.860 --> 00:12:17.000 - what they submitted, you know, are based on like online databases. 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:26.000 - It's not that they didn't submit information. It's just what based upon what they submitted to us. 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:31.220 - We couldn't we couldn't confirm right databases. Yeah, if they did not submit things like budget or 00:12:31.220 --> 00:12:34.000 - application or summaries or things like that. 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:48.000 - It was highlighted in red. It did not. I did not get like final count of how many applicants that 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:48.000 - was, but like I just scrolled past one that did not submit a budget. 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.910 - Well, let's I guess we can cycle back to this because let's just go one is the best way we can just 00:12:52.910 --> 00:12:58.200 - go one by one and just say, you know, a through Z, which ones we want to invite and we can discuss 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.000 - the front when we get there then. 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:07.940 - So, and with this house. Does anybody want you want to invite them. I had them on my list to just 00:13:07.940 --> 00:13:13.420 - one I didn't have any specific questions for some of these, some of these I just felt I wanted more 00:13:13.420 --> 00:13:14.000 - general info. 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:18.000 - Anybody else feel that way. Anybody opposed to inviting them. 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:25.220 - Okay, great so amethyst house will invite to an interview. And again just for both public record 00:13:25.220 --> 00:13:31.940 - and for all of us, you know, it is not viewed in any way as a disadvantage to people to not get an 00:13:31.940 --> 00:13:33.000 - interview. 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.380 - And we can discuss a little bit how we might want to handle if some, you know, want to make public 00:13:37.380 --> 00:13:41.800 - comment or something at the interview meeting but there's no disadvantage to them not giving an 00:13:41.800 --> 00:13:46.000 - interview so we're trying to use this mostly for clarification purposes 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.000 - and for evaluation purposes. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:58.120 - Beacon for their, for their individual one. I personally I don't think we need beacon to present, I 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:03.000 - think everyone is aware of beacon, and in their ass is pretty straightforward. 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.000 - I would agree. 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:06.000 - Okay. 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.000 - And any everybody okay with that. 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:13.000 - Big brother big sisters. 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:17.000 - Yeah, I have a question. Could I ask a question. Yes, please. 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:23.000 - So, back to the point I brought up last time we met. 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:27.000 - You know there's an advantage to presenting sometimes. 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:34.240 - Because people in the community see, you know what they're about, who might not be familiar with 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:35.000 - them. 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:40.560 - So, when you say they're not going to be invited does that mean you're going to, we're going to 00:14:40.560 --> 00:14:44.000 - exclude them from presenting I mean suppose they want to. 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:48.520 - I think that's a fair question that you know do we want to do we want to sort of schedule out in 00:14:48.520 --> 00:14:53.280 - the interviews of the folks that that we need the clarification from and then have maybe an open 00:14:53.280 --> 00:14:56.000 - time at the end where if people want to come there 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.000 - will listen. 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:08.100 - At one point we had some discussions just right among the three of us that maybe to spare time and 00:15:08.100 --> 00:15:17.680 - resources to the applicants, just to invite those that really needed more information, so that you 00:15:17.680 --> 00:15:19.000 - could make informed decisions. 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:23.890 - Exactly. I mean I think I think I think all of us in our in our reflection at the end of last year 00:15:23.890 --> 00:15:29.170 - sort of felt that, you know, we were there until midnight, some applicants stayed the entire time 00:15:29.170 --> 00:15:31.000 - for them to give a three minute presentation 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:36.290 - and get asked two questions. I would rather be able to ask sort of in depth questions of new 00:15:36.290 --> 00:15:42.000 - applications people that you know it's not clear what they're asking for those type of things. 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:47.290 - Yeah, but I think using using beacon as good example we know the organization they've been funded 00:15:47.290 --> 00:15:52.880 - multiple times, what they're asking for is very straightforward it is targeted the things that we're 00:15:52.880 --> 00:15:55.000 - trying to fund you know like, like it. 00:15:55.000 --> 00:16:00.000 - It just doesn't like I don't know what we what are we gonna ask them, you know. 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:14.280 - Sure. I'm fine with that. I just wanted to bring up that point in case you know because I'm kind of 00:16:14.280 --> 00:16:16.830 - new to this process again, and it can be tedious and lengthy. So, I'm, I'm fine with that, I would 00:16:16.830 --> 00:16:21.000 - probably maybe defer to group that say, but, you know, it's sort of immaterial. 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:31.000 - I mean if the group is relatively unknown, but we will come anyway. So, yeah, let's move on. 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:37.640 - And on that note also I forgot to ask, or did we have any specific questions for amethyst house or 00:16:37.640 --> 00:16:39.000 - big brothers big sisters. 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:45.200 - I'd like, I'd like to know more about the part time relationship caseworker and, and how they could 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.000 - potentially on this later down the road. 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:55.250 - Is this the amethyst. So this is big, big, big. Yeah, I think there was some in my situation last 00:16:55.250 --> 00:16:58.000 - year, too, but I think it was a different employee, right. 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:01.000 - And I think it was really should case work. 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:04.000 - But I might be wrong about that. 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:06.000 - Okay. 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.000 - Okay. 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:14.000 - Okay, next one is Bloomington cooperative living. 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:22.000 - They're getting an email out asking for their budget. 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:30.000 - And, and it looks like they, you did get confirmation of their 50133 status. Yeah. 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:38.000 - This is for that so right now what I have is missing project budget was big brothers big sisters. 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:45.810 - I think that the next step had it on the notes it says that it says that cooperative living was 00:17:45.810 --> 00:17:47.000 - missing. 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:55.000 - Yeah, it says elsewhere on 503 proof elsewhere. Yeah, we're talking about the budget. 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:59.000 - Yeah, you're right. Sorry. Yeah, did not include a budget. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:06.770 - But how do you have and the 501 c3 status was confirmed, the document that they provided was 501 c4 00:18:06.770 --> 00:18:13.990 - proof, but the IRS puts out a list of like 501 c3 confirmed organizations and they were included on 00:18:13.990 --> 00:18:16.000 - that so I was able to confirm like on 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:20.000 - online databases that their 501 c3. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:23.000 - But they did not provide that to themselves. 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:28.130 - That was cooperative living, didn't, didn't, didn't they present last year, that was in the same 00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:29.000 - group. 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:33.000 - And we funded them last year. 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:41.670 - I thought that they had they had an electric cooperative living did apply last year, and they, and 00:18:41.670 --> 00:18:47.000 - we funded, you can electrical box, and some other stuff so 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:53.000 - yeah, yeah I feel like maybe they can just get us their budget. That's really. 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:59.280 - So just an email to them as opposed to what we mean by getting the budget is actually their budget 00:18:59.280 --> 00:19:03.000 - template, right, because they didn't give us the estimates of. 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:10.450 - Just the clear the quotes right we and the application requests, signed quotes and budget and the 00:19:10.450 --> 00:19:18.000 - actual template rather than because they didn't give us numbers, we just wanted it in our template 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.000 - so I mean, but do people want to ask them other questions 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:26.090 - it's just the budget question that we should add, we should send them the budget template and say 00:19:26.090 --> 00:19:31.210 - can you please fill this out for us. But does anybody want them to. So we need to do that anyway so 00:19:31.210 --> 00:19:36.000 - please ask them to do that but does anybody want to interview them or have them present 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:44.720 - presented last year, and I think I mean the HVAC upgrade is pretty straightforward. I don't see a 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.000 - need for them to present. 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.000 - Okay, anybody. 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:52.000 - Moving on then. 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.000 - But you'll you'll email them. Yes. Yep. Okay. 00:19:55.000 --> 00:20:00.000 - Bloomington St. Vincent DePaul serving Monroe County. 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.000 - So straightforward. 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:06.000 - And he presented last year and he's also hearing. Yeah. 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:10.000 - Did they include in their full application. 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:13.000 - The results from last year. 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:20.000 - Okay, anybody, because because these were one because they've asked for the same thing. 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:25.830 - I'd love to. So I was I was thinking I wanted to interview them so that we could just talk about 00:20:25.830 --> 00:20:27.000 - how it went last year. 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:32.000 - Cool. Yeah, that sounds fair, because they're asking for the exact same thing so. 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.000 - Yep. 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:37.000 - Right. 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:40.000 - The boys and girls club of Bloomington. 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.000 - So I'm just wondering if you have any questions about. 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:46.000 - Their request. 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:48.000 - So. 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:51.000 - I have questions to you. They want to fund. 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.000 - Step in ritual and being blossom. 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.000 - Is that. 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:59.000 - Even though they're based in the city. I mean, is that something that we want to. 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:02.000 - Because I mean, that's our maybe a question for our next meeting, but. 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:04.000 - But certainly if we want to, if we want to ask. 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:06.000 - To better understand the project. 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:11.000 - So. 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:14.000 - I was with you, but I was even a step further. 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:17.000 - I was like, it says it's the Ellisville location. 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:20.000 - In agreement with rich on being blossomed. 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:23.000 - I mean, how many city Bloomington residents. 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:26.000 - Are part of our. 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.000 - RBB. 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:32.000 - This is, I think a great example of the type of question. 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.000 - I'd love to ask them. 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.000 - Do you just want to eliminate them here? 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.000 - No, I mean, just. 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:40.000 - That was my initial instinct was just eliminated. 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.000 - But then I started thinking, I wonder how many of their. 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:45.000 - If we do have Monroe County. 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.000 - We have Bloomington students going there. 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.000 - I don't know. 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:50.000 - Yeah, I think, I think there's a. 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:52.000 - So can we, can we ask them that question? 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:54.000 - That's the main question we'd like to ask them in their presentation. 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.000 - I will tell you, we send students there through the leadership program. 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:05.000 - And we are allowed us and students outside of city serving. 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:09.000 - Institution. So, and it has passed all the IU. 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.000 - Length checks. So. 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:16.000 - That means. 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:19.000 - Okay, so the specific question. 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:28.000 - I'm going to go a little bit more about who the grant is going to serve. 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:34.000 - Namely because we have this desire to prioritize city residents. 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:37.000 - So we'd like an understanding of how city residents will benefit from a 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:41.000 - project and we're showing being awesome. 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:42.000 - And then they'll present on that. 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.000 - Yeah, issue. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:51.000 - Okay. 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:54.000 - Out of the realm of possibility that this is actually the application 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:58.000 - they met to send sent to the county. I forget what their board is called. 00:22:58.000 --> 00:23:00.000 - So it could be, they might go, Oh, actually. 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.000 - You know, 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:05.000 - You know, anyways. 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:08.000 - Okay. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:13.000 - Catholic charities Bloomington. 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:16.000 - I think they did apply for something. 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:18.000 - I think the same thing last year. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.000 - Yeah. 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.000 - So they. 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.000 - Their final one C trees. 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:31.000 - Probably on record from last year. 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:34.000 - Anybody want to invite them for an interview? 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:36.000 - It would just be the same reason that you wanted to invite. 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.000 - St Vincent de Paul. 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:40.000 - Just to kind of get an idea of like. 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:44.000 - Yeah. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.000 - Or how, or how last year went. 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:55.000 - Great. 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.000 - Urged to change. 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:59.000 - So we're living. 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:00.000 - This was super straightforward. 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:05.000 - Yeah. 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:13.000 - Okay. 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.000 - I would like them to come in and present. 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:18.000 - I I'm curious to hear from them. 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:23.000 - You know, I think just. 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.000 - And this might be deeper in their application. You know, 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:28.000 - I didn't look at the full one, but I'm just curious how. 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:29.000 - How many. 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:30.000 - Evictions do they think they can help? 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.000 - How many families do they think is this? 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.000 - How effective is their work in this? 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:36.000 - How many families do they think they can help? 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:40.000 - Let's see how one that's good. 00:24:40.000 --> 00:25:08.000 - How many families do they think they can help? 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.000 - How many families do they think they can help? 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:12.000 - How many families do they think they can help? 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.000 - How many families do they think they can help? 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:15.000 - Since. 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.000 - Critical since an eviction could lead home. 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.000 - The effectiveness of the evictions is what ties into our needs. 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:23.000 - Really? 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:26.000 - Yeah, I just want to, you know, it's kind of like what, what. 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.000 - You were questioning a bit with the RBB questions. How many. 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.000 - People are we helping with this? I mean, that's something that I factor in. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:38.000 - My budget for this when I'm looking at all of the numbers, how do I weigh things? Are we helping? 00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:42.000 - A wider population. Are we only helping maybe. 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:46.340 - Three families and not that three families aren't worth helping, but then I weigh it with how much 00:25:46.340 --> 00:25:47.000 - money they're. 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:50.000 - And then they have an outlined actually in any report where. 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:53.000 - And I just want a bit of a better idea of. 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:58.000 - A large of an outreach this week. 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:06.000 - Okay, community kitchen. 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:14.000 - Research words. 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:20.000 - Crested hill refuge. I think we should invite all of the new applicants. I would agree with that. 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:23.000 - I would agree with that. One thing about that pathways actually isn't new pathways. 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:31.000 - Yeah. 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:35.000 - Oh, okay. Cause I didn't have them initially on my list. I, I wasn't. 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:39.000 - I put them on afterwards. Like, oh, they're new. I should add them then. Okay. 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.000 - Thank you. Before we move on. 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.000 - I'm not arguing this case at all. 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.000 - I'm just asking a question. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:53.000 - Cause there's another equine relate therapy related. Yeah. 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:59.000 - Are we stretching that in terms of the funds for this? 00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:07.430 - Sure. But that, but, and, and that, that I think, I think that is, you know, I mean, do you, do you, 00:27:07.430 --> 00:27:11.000 - are you, are you saying that we should exclude them out right now? 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.000 - I'm, I'm open to that possibility. 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:19.000 - I am too. I mean, I, they have a, the largest request, I think. Right. 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.000 - What's that? Yeah. 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:31.000 - $200,000. And I went to their website and it's almost there. There's no, there's nothing there. 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:38.960 - You know, I, I think my tendency would be to just exclude them, but unless people think that this 00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:46.350 - is, and I'm not that familiar with equine psychological therapy, but it just seems, it seems like a 00:27:46.350 --> 00:27:47.000 - reach to me. 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:52.000 - Regarding, in contrast to the other needs in the community. 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:57.340 - Well, I think that the service that they're trying to initiate or provide is something that is 00:27:57.340 --> 00:28:03.040 - needed, especially for mental health in the community, seeing that there's a lot of organization 00:28:03.040 --> 00:28:08.000 - that does provide, but that is something that is lacking. 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:16.240 - I think I don't think we should exclude them just yet seen that they're new, and for what service 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:22.000 - they're trying to provide and that is a need in this community. 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.000 - I think that's fair. 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:31.680 - I mean, I will, they are asking for a lot, though, but yeah and and the amount of people, the sort 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:36.000 - of, I mean, just just thinking about our rubric. 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:44.890 - It's they will be very low on our rubric because because they're asking to serve 175 people with 00:28:44.890 --> 00:28:49.000 - one thought with $199,000. 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:55.050 - The shot on the rubric. Yeah, I mean we should actually I mean because even if we cut them out we 00:28:55.050 --> 00:28:59.000 - still buy her buy her new design have to give them a rubric. 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:04.260 - So, I think they present, and then we do the rubric and then when they present if they're able to 00:29:04.260 --> 00:29:09.400 - make any sort of case for like their partial funding moment to, I think, I think that's a fair 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.000 - point and then I think, do you do. 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:17.070 - Dave and Andy do you agree because I think, because we need to give people rubrics anyways at this 00:29:17.070 --> 00:29:22.360 - stage, excluding people outside of for you know reasons like they're not actually qualified for it 00:29:22.360 --> 00:29:24.000 - or something like that. 00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:27.000 - Maybe seems unfair. 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:35.120 - Yeah, I go both ways. I mean I just, I had the same sentiment as Andy did, but I'm, I'm good with 00:29:35.120 --> 00:29:39.000 - having them come and, you know, presenting. 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:45.880 - But I mean I mean I maybe feel with you that I'm like I don't, I don't. I mean again, we should we 00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:50.510 - have to go through the rubric. Let's see but I just looking at I'm like I don't I don't see how 00:29:50.510 --> 00:29:54.000 - this rises to the top of our rubric but. 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:58.680 - And so I don't know if we're wasting their time or, or our own by listening but that's kind of 00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:05.400 - where I was coming from. The chances of me supporting anything close to this for this is special 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:06.000 - and done so. 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:09.620 - But that being said, it is the maybe it's just the amount and one of the things that we can tease 00:30:09.620 --> 00:30:13.500 - out. I mean I don't know if I would feel that same way if what we're talking about was, you know, 00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:18.000 - 30k or something right and, and, you know, to the point. 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:23.100 - We don't know enough about it and or about them. I think the visibility alone is also really good 00:30:23.100 --> 00:30:26.000 - if they're in your organization, then having the chance to. 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:33.370 - Give them a favor by letting them present even if it falls upon deaf ears by the time we get to the 00:30:33.370 --> 00:30:37.000 - point of getting an opportunity for them. I'm curious. 00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:44.230 - I was great, and we did us for innovation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you know there is an established 00:30:44.230 --> 00:30:50.840 - house has been established for years so I'm interested to see why they want to compete for maybe 00:30:50.840 --> 00:30:53.000 - the same folks, but yeah. 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:57.000 - I'm going to present for three minutes. 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:05.000 - So, yeah, I'll just put general information on application. Yep. 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:15.000 - Okay, the central common Latino. 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:22.000 - Anyone wants in, but then a new applicant. 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.000 - I think we awarded them last year. 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:30.120 - We did last year I don't remember that I think El Centro and access, maybe not maybe not I don't 00:31:30.120 --> 00:31:35.470 - remember me that's not true. Yeah, I mean, El Centro was not on my sheet for last year the same 00:31:35.470 --> 00:31:40.000 - visibility purposes I kind of want to hear from them but I also like, 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:46.000 - I guess last year, let's hear from them. Oh, so, yes, yes to them. Sure. 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:49.000 - Great. Next one. 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:55.580 - I lost my place or Exodus. Oh, they were granted all the way back in 2004. Yeah, we should hear 00:31:55.580 --> 00:32:01.000 - from them. They've been granted before but I think the last time was 20. 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:14.000 - 2323. Okay, Exodus. 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:19.000 - It is a large. Oh, okay, there's a there's a typo. Sorry. 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:25.000 - And the overall project costs 150,000 they're asking for 15. 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:33.400 - Are we able, so if somebody asked for just hypothetically if somebody asked for, you know, $5, are 00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:43.070 - we able to say there's a minimum so $1,000. Are we able to award them 50, like, or, you know, I 00:32:43.070 --> 00:32:46.000 - mean, there's other, you know, whether that's how we would want to do it. 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:55.010 - Right. Like, could we do that or is there some stipulation that we need to operate within what they 00:32:55.010 --> 00:32:56.000 - asked for. 00:32:56.000 --> 00:33:02.000 - So, you're asking that you're stating that the application would be for 15. 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:12.520 - I'm just saying so so in this case they've applied for for 15 out of out of 150,000. Are we able to 00:33:12.520 --> 00:33:15.000 - work more than 15. 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:21.110 - I asked seeking seeking to understand whether whether that's worth inviting them to an interview to 00:33:21.110 --> 00:33:26.000 - better understand the scope of their needs and you know they've right sized it. 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:36.480 - I mean I guess there's no legal reason why you couldn't grant an amount in excess of what they've 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.000 - requested. 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:58.000 - But I would want to talk to them like before doing no exactly exactly exactly. Yeah. Yeah, and I 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.000 - think understanding how I think that they're probably being insanely impacted by exactly, I would 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:58.000 - love to understand that. 00:33:58.000 --> 00:34:02.000 - So, so definitely bring them in for an interview. 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:11.000 - So your question is just being about where the rest of their funding is coming from. 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:15.310 - When I also I also I don't know if I want to put this in writing to them necessarily I don't know 00:34:15.310 --> 00:34:19.530 - how to tease this out correctly but one of the reasons I want to interview them is getting an 00:34:19.530 --> 00:34:22.000 - understanding of what the situation is correct I mean, 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.700 - is there even a population here for them to be serving at the moment, or is this sort of 00:34:27.700 --> 00:34:34.000 - perspective for you know with with the, you know, changing things that are happening. 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:42.420 - You know I could see where there's kind of a policy question as to whether you would, as a 00:34:42.420 --> 00:34:51.000 - committee voluntarily want to see what the request is, particularly if I were another applicant. 00:34:51.000 --> 00:35:06.000 - Yeah, exactly. 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:12.640 - I would like, I just want them to give us more information. I feel like I want to give them the 00:35:12.640 --> 00:35:16.000 - chance to sell this a little bit more to us. 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:33.000 - Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, 45,000 that's on the higher end of what people are requesting from us. 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.000 - So, I'm just, so for some of these that I'm, I'm asking to come in for more information, it's, it's 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:36.000 - because I'm skeptical upon first blush. 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:46.000 - And I want to give them the opportunity to, to convince me, or to make a stronger argument. 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:54.540 - Yeah, last year they came in hot with a really specific program ask and this year they zoomed out. 00:35:54.540 --> 00:35:56.000 - Yeah, yeah, it just feels too general that I'm not sure. 00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:06.000 - Yeah, last year they came in hot with a really specific program ask and this year they zoomed out. 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.000 - Yeah, it just feels too general that I'm not sure how does this actually, I guess my question is, 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:13.000 - yeah, how does this actually fit 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:17.270 - our agenda here, our mission with these grants, and even I love the idea of even if we just funded 00:36:17.270 --> 00:36:23.000 - the summer camp scholarships or something, you know, yeah, right. Yeah. 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.000 - Hey habitat. 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:32.290 - So, habitat has a collaborative brand. I kind of want to bring habitat anyways because for bill 00:36:32.290 --> 00:36:33.000 - restore. 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:37.830 - This was like, is that really a collaborative thing or is that we have the same. Yeah, well I was 00:36:37.830 --> 00:36:43.000 - very confused about that and if I wouldn't see was confusing and I think they're owned by habitat. 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:58.000 - It's collaboration to get owned by habitat, but I didn't understand that either. I was very unclear 00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:58.000 - on that. So, not necessarily about the truck but should we ask them to come in twice. So you give 00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:58.000 - them to sort of to allotments of time, I think the trucks pretty straightforward. 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.810 - I don't, I don't need to learn more about habitat I just want to know what the relationship for 00:37:02.810 --> 00:37:09.000 - habitat and resources for their collab. Yeah, and if, if that's an actual legitimate collaboration. 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:15.200 - If it's not then we may ask them if you had to choose between two projects, which one would you 00:37:15.200 --> 00:37:16.000 - choose. 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:19.000 - So, 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:23.000 - yeah, 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:28.870 - so we should get with that's a straightforward email, and you can confirm if I want to, and then I 00:37:28.870 --> 00:37:33.000 - don't think you should ask them in writing the question. 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:40.190 - I think we want to know more about collaborative project, understanding if the restore has their 00:37:40.190 --> 00:37:41.000 - own number. 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:46.050 - Yeah, that was part of what I couldn't find and that was part of my struggle with the 501C3 is that 00:37:46.050 --> 00:37:48.000 - the EIN for restore was the same. 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:54.950 - Yeah, so I think I think so asking you know that we want, we want some clarification about the 00:37:54.950 --> 00:37:58.000 - relationship between restore and habitat. 00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:03.000 - And confirmation of their 501C3. 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:08.270 - And what's the other thing I was saying we shouldn't we shouldn't, unless we want to elaborate on 00:38:08.270 --> 00:38:13.220 - it more is saying we want to know which of these two projects you'd rather do is like a leading 00:38:13.220 --> 00:38:16.000 - question like we'll find one it's it's the way that sounds. 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:20.560 - Yeah, that's what I mean. I guess that's not what we're saying. It's what we're thinking in our 00:38:20.560 --> 00:38:21.000 - head. 00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:28.280 - Yeah, I think I think by I think by the way that we've defined this we have to view like you cannot 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:35.000 - disadvantage people for doing collaborative applications if it's a true cloud. 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:40.990 - But that's the point. So what we want to find out is the relationship between them and restore. Yes. 00:38:40.990 --> 00:38:41.000 - Yeah. 00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:46.960 - So I'm going to send an email to clarify about their 501 C3 status but then do we want them to 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:50.000 - actually come in and present about restore. 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.400 - Okay, so the email is just going to be on 501 C3. The email about 501 C3 but you're sending emails 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.000 - to invite them to presentations. Yeah, there's going to be two separate emails. 00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:01.960 - Exactly. And so and the thing we'd like to know about them is, is that we'd like to dive in a 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:06.340 - little bit more to their collaborative and understand that particularly understanding the 00:39:06.340 --> 00:39:10.000 - relationship between restore and habitat. 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:19.000 - Okay, healing hands are healing hand. 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:22.000 - Anyone want to bring them in. 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:44.000 - Straight forward. 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:47.000 - India IRA. 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:57.930 - I would love. I think I can't remember his name, but he sat in our first meeting. I think inviting 00:39:57.930 --> 00:39:59.000 - him. 00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:18.760 - I think understanding how the funding helped last year would be another good. Just gonna say it 00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.240 - wasn't as similar to what we funded last year. Yeah. Yeah. Should that be like us something to 00:40:21.240 --> 00:40:21.650 - reconsider when it comes to another year, if that is, we could require like what, what did the 00:40:21.650 --> 00:40:26.000 - money, what was the funds used for last year and what was the outcome like kind of like analysis of 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:26.000 - outcome. 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:33.300 - Yeah, do we have, do we last required a value of an email folks are here. They could tell us what, 00:40:33.300 --> 00:40:35.000 - what they collect at the end. 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:43.010 - Today, they collect, you know, do we know, I think that they receive a report at the end, we've got 00:40:43.010 --> 00:40:49.000 - an impact report I feel like that would be so last year the need was for a case manager. 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:56.000 - This year's agreed this year's a great manager. 00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:05.100 - I'm just basing that on my recollection of some comment. This is my first time dealing with the 00:41:05.100 --> 00:41:09.000 - committee and the grant program. 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:16.000 - And I think I think for now we can invite them in, ask them, ask them for 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:24.000 - ask them ask them just the thing we're interested in is sort of how, how it went last year. 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:40.000 - I'm turn. No, so yes. Any questions specifically for them. 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:43.000 - Interesting for us to fund. 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:53.050 - Renting the Banneker Center is an interesting thing for us to fund. Let's conversation for another 00:41:53.050 --> 00:41:54.000 - time. 00:41:54.000 --> 00:42:05.560 - So anyways, Montero County casa. So they're having trouble getting casa volunteers, and this is a 00:42:05.560 --> 00:42:10.000 - way for them to maybe get more folks. 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.000 - I don't necessarily. Did we do gas cards last year. 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:24.000 - No, that was the cancers. Yeah. So, yes to interview or no. 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:30.100 - I don't need to, but it's very straightforward. They're not asking for a lot. I, yeah, I don't, I 00:42:30.100 --> 00:42:35.000 - don't, I don't need to hear it. They were one that did not submit the project budget template. 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:42.000 - Yes, but we already we already know you already know what to do with that. Fair enough. 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:48.000 - All those who just need the paperwork. 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:52.000 - Okay, and then this, they won't be asked. 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:59.070 - I don't think so. Anyone, anyone want them. That's fine. I just want to come from Monroe County Humane 00:42:59.070 --> 00:43:02.000 - Association straightforward. 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.600 - I just think that's where I take all my animals and last year getting the card in the mail that was 00:43:07.600 --> 00:43:08.000 - like, it was lovely. 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:19.000 - It was lovely. 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:24.670 - I felt called out. I remember I think I shared something about one of my pets or forget what I said 00:43:24.670 --> 00:43:28.000 - to them and I was just like, oh no no I feel called out. 00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.000 - Okay, new hope for families. 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.000 - You want them for an interview. 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:39.000 - Other Hubbard's we did. 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.000 - They're straightforward and I miss what. 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:48.490 - Oh, there's a blank summary. They need a project. Yeah, sorry. Mother Hubbard's didn't have an 00:43:48.490 --> 00:43:53.000 - application summary and then they didn't have a signed estimate but that like application. 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:58.680 - I think I forgot to put their name on the thing because I had to add the blank app for them since 00:43:58.680 --> 00:44:04.000 - it didn't submit one but that one is there's in between mother Hubbard and casa. 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.000 - Okay, so yes to mother Hubbard's or no to interview. 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:14.000 - I don't need to interview new home families. 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:20.000 - So yes, we'll invite them any questions that we have for them specifically. 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:26.000 - What is going on internally. 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:31.000 - I want to know circumstances as to why their application was submitted. 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:36.330 - Yeah, somebody mentioned that earlier I think I think that would be a good time for that 00:44:36.330 --> 00:44:43.000 - conversation like hey, can you follow through like that's fair. 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:47.000 - Okay, got a new life. 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:53.420 - When these are brought up do we start you need to leave their own, or, or just ask if we bring them 00:44:53.420 --> 00:44:55.000 - to interview them. 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.000 - Thank you. 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:01.000 - I think it seems straightforward. Yeah, I didn't have them on my list. 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.000 - Okay. 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:18.000 - 279. 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:24.000 - How is their spreadsheet, sorry, trying to compare. 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:31.370 - Okay, another one that we want to bring in to say how did it go last year is a similar to what they 00:45:31.370 --> 00:45:34.000 - try to remember. They had a bigger ass last year. 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:44.170 - They had a, they requested 50,000 last year, or to renovate building stuff. Yeah, for innovations. 00:45:44.170 --> 00:45:45.000 - Okay, nevermind. 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:54.000 - Yeah, I feel like they're just so well established to locate. Yeah, I don't have any questions for 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:54.000 - him. So everybody okay? All good. 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:57.000 - Okay. 00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:01.000 - Planned Parenthood. 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.000 - I want to understand why they're not asking for more. Honestly, it's another organization. 00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:10.000 - Do you want to bring them in? Yeah. Okay. 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:16.100 - And what was the question, or what information should they bring? They requested 7500 last year too, 00:46:16.100 --> 00:46:21.250 - and we're essentially their only source of grant funding. I can't remember exactly what they said, 00:46:21.250 --> 00:46:22.000 - but like their highest. 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:30.000 - I want to understand why their ask is like kind of hovering at that 7500 mark. 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:40.000 - Okay, Scott. 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:41.000 - No. 00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.000 - Special Olympics. 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:46.000 - No. 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.000 - Hendricks County. Yes. 00:46:50.000 --> 00:47:05.350 - Special Olympics. Was that one that they requested, like a ramp or something? No, it's uniformed. 00:47:05.350 --> 00:47:05.760 - Well, it was like the bowling ramp. Yeah, I think that was their request last year. It's equipment 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.000 - stuff. 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:12.610 - Yeah, I'm interested in what became of that. Yeah, it was equipment. But they're one time 00:47:12.610 --> 00:47:19.040 - investments, so I don't like, it's like what became of we bought the thing and then we did the 00:47:19.040 --> 00:47:20.000 - thing. It's not that relevant, you know what I'm saying? 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:25.900 - Yeah, they request so little. They request so little. You know, with the ones where it's like, we 00:47:25.900 --> 00:47:30.000 - want to fund a person and then they're like, we want to fund a person. I'm like, okay, you know. 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:35.000 - Yeah, it's just my curiosity there. 00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.000 - Okay, Hendrix County. 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.000 - Yes. Yes. 00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.000 - Any questions specifically. 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:49.210 - Why, why Hendrix County, why are they Hendrix County in there, like, I'm just confused about the 00:47:49.210 --> 00:47:58.000 - name of the title was for their Bloomington said for students Suzy's place. Yeah. 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:04.000 - I just want to learn more about them in general. 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:09.810 - Another one where I'm like, why, I would like to bring them in that I had them on my list because I'm 00:48:09.810 --> 00:48:14.890 - quite confused with what they're asking money for, given what we prioritize and what the community 00:48:14.890 --> 00:48:16.000 - knows they need. 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.000 - I don't I don't get why they're not asking us for a capital investment. 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:28.210 - I think it's very confusing to me. And they did this last year to where they were like, and they 00:48:28.210 --> 00:48:36.230 - had some reasoning of like why it was better to use this for salaries, so I'm interested to get 00:48:36.230 --> 00:48:38.000 - some sense again. 00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.000 - Your wonder lab. 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.000 - No one, anyone. 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.000 - I'm an executive director. 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:53.000 - This is a pretty straightforward. 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:59.870 - Okay, anybody want to. Are we okay with all of those as our interviews, 1616 individual interviews 00:48:59.870 --> 00:49:05.000 - and then one for collapse so far but we haven't gotten really good. 00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:11.120 - I wonder what also sites that they monitor the child poverty rate approximately 13.8% of Monroe 00:49:11.120 --> 00:49:16.640 - County children under 18 are in poverty, which I feel like also speaks to Monroe County Boys and 00:49:16.640 --> 00:49:19.000 - Girls Club to that like numbers that we want them to talk 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:23.000 - there as well. So you do want to bring them in for an interview. No. 00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:38.000 - Okay. 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.000 - So yes. 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:45.000 - Any specific questions. 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:55.000 - All right. Yeah, is Unitarian Universalist Church new. 00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.000 - That's their club. 00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:03.740 - I don't. Well, they didn't. You didn't play for anything last year. I don't know anything beyond 00:50:03.740 --> 00:50:04.000 - that. 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:11.000 - I have the like previous funding name pull up YouTube. 00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:20.000 - Yeah, I don't think that they have either. 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.000 - Okay. 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:28.000 - So yes, yes to them. Beacon Health Net. 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:32.000 - Question, do we want to bring them in now. 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:41.000 - This is exactly the same as they had last year. 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:46.590 - They were partnered with a for-profit organization, but now they're with Health Net and Health Net 00:50:46.590 --> 00:50:48.000 - is going to utilize that space. 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:54.000 - So do we want to hear, do you want to hear what Health Net is going to do? 00:50:54.000 --> 00:51:02.000 - You guys tell me. 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.000 - Yes to the presenting. 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:10.000 - To see the difference being what was denied last year. 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.000 - So you say yes. 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.000 - Okay, so bring them in. 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:18.000 - The question being what is the difference between the application last year and this year. 00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:25.000 - We know what Health Net is, but how is that collaboration? 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:29.000 - I want to hear about that partnership. I don't necessarily hear the difference between them. 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:30.000 - Gotcha. 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.000 - So just generally wanted to understand the details of the collaboration. 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.000 - They couldn't fix it last year, so they have to apply. 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.000 - It's a legitimate concern. 00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:51.000 - My sister's closet and I'm with this house. 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:57.000 - No, not my sister's closet. Sorry, I'm trying to further. 00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.000 - Straightforward. 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.000 - Okay, people. 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:09.000 - Sorry, people and animal learning service and Centerstone. 00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:12.000 - Are you bringing in the equine therapy people to talk? 00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.000 - Should we bring in the pals and let them talk to you? 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.000 - Okay, so yes to pals. 00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:19.000 - That's a good balance. 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:20.000 - Yeah. 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:23.000 - We've already said yes to restore habitat for humanity. 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.000 - And then last one is Stone Belt. 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:29.000 - They've exactly matched from last year. I don't, I don't need to hear from Skelton at all. 00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:31.000 - Yeah, that was what they did last year. 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:38.910 - Which was, um, yeah, forgive me because I wrote it down as refugee employment, which one is that 00:52:38.910 --> 00:52:41.000 - one of the collaborative. 00:52:41.000 --> 00:52:44.730 - Yeah, I had a question on that too. I'm just generally wondering for that one the refugee 00:52:44.730 --> 00:52:46.000 - employment program. 00:52:46.000 --> 00:53:00.050 - That one funding for that sort of thing is now going to be coming from the future, like the local 00:53:00.050 --> 00:53:05.000 - government. 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:19.000 - Okay, so, so how many organizations is that in total, 20 in total for collaborative and 16. 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:23.000 - How many did we, how many did we not invite. 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:37.060 - Well, there's 39 total or 38 total applicants. So we didn't invite 18. Okay, so, so the last thing 00:53:37.060 --> 00:53:42.000 - that we need to decide, then here at well sort of the multiprong question here. 00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:47.730 - Well, what do we want the format of the presentations to be and do we want to give any additional 00:53:47.730 --> 00:53:52.010 - guidance that we usually give. And then do we want to give a space for those who are not 00:53:52.010 --> 00:53:57.000 - specifically inviting with specific questions to, you know, maybe at the end like a sort of public 00:53:57.000 --> 00:53:57.000 - comment 00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:03.000 - space, where, you know, if they want to come and tell us something like we will listen, you know, 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:08.000 - or some or some alternative like that for the folks that we're not inviting to interview. 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.000 - So those are the two questions. 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:17.090 - For the second question my initial thought is no, because I do think that it might communicate. I 00:54:17.090 --> 00:54:22.000 - think it might be confusing. And it's implication that it could impact their. 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.000 - Yeah, I think that's what I agree. That's, I agree. 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:30.000 - Anybody feel differently though. 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.000 - We're okay. So we're okay with, with that. 00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:41.510 - What do we want the presentations to be like so we have 20 what is this 2020 presentation. So 20 00:54:41.510 --> 00:54:43.000 - presentations. 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:48.000 - I guess, how long would you all like to meet. 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:55.040 - Last year did you set time limits for the presentation for the presentation. We did it for the 00:54:55.040 --> 00:54:59.000 - question period. 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:04.000 - Exactly. Yes, I was very long. 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:07.000 - But it was kind of fun. I like sharing about it. 00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.000 - So I don't mind. 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.000 - I mean, midnight. No, thank you. 00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.000 - It won't be the night again. 00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:22.000 - We learned a hard lesson. I leave for San Francisco the next morning I just stay on task. 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:29.000 - It's like 4 a.m. the next day. So please no midnight. 00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:36.010 - If you imagine that we don't want to be there for more than three hours, if that's sort of our cap 00:55:36.010 --> 00:55:41.330 - to make it a sort of reasonable meeting, then that would be giving each of them nine minutes, 00:55:41.330 --> 00:55:43.000 - including question time. 00:55:43.000 --> 00:55:50.440 - So, so if we if we've basically are saying about, you know, could call it 10 minutes of 00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:51.000 - presentation. 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:56.150 - We say eight minutes. No, I'm saying three minutes of presentation first questions for her 00:55:56.150 --> 00:56:00.260 - organization and give it given that we're asking them in their presentation to answer the question 00:56:00.260 --> 00:56:03.000 - that we've already sent them to begin with like if they want 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:09.710 - to tell us, you know, and then, and then and then we might have some follow up questions. So I, I 00:56:09.710 --> 00:56:12.000 - want to, I want to kind of modify that a little bit. 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:16.970 - I want to give a little bit of the new organizations, I want to give them time to introduce 00:56:16.970 --> 00:56:21.390 - themselves for like new hope. I don't need to hear what they hope does right well that's my point 00:56:21.390 --> 00:56:24.000 - but so so we should send just directions to everyone 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:28.460 - saying this is what we'd like you to tell us like, you know, we're, we're specifically seeking some 00:56:28.460 --> 00:56:32.770 - information for the new ones you say that we like to tell us a bit about your organization and, you 00:56:32.770 --> 00:56:35.000 - know, that might be the question in 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:41.720 - the organizations that may not apply in the last x number of years, that they may want to say 00:56:41.720 --> 00:56:47.990 - something about the organization what their mission is or something I will also that actually 00:56:47.990 --> 00:56:49.000 - raises another point. 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:53.640 - So do we actually do we want to ask them to do any presentation or do we want for the handful that 00:56:53.640 --> 00:56:58.400 - we have very specific questions is good for them to prepare we don't want to catch them unaware 00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:01.000 - like the goal is not to hinder them here. 00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:05.390 - So it's actually like we're trying to find reasons to find everyone right rather than the other way 00:57:05.390 --> 00:57:06.000 - around. 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:12.300 - The, the way we could do it is basically say we don't want you to give us a formal presentation per 00:57:12.300 --> 00:57:16.940 - se, we say like, you know, we're going to ask you some questions, the chief of which is this, and 00:57:16.940 --> 00:57:19.000 - you know they come they could come into the room 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:23.910 - and I'm doing it in council chambers. This year they could come to the room we could say well hey 00:57:23.910 --> 00:57:29.000 - our first question was this answer it and then we answer it we asked some follow up questions. 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:35.050 - Maybe that's the way so it's a little bit more relaxed but we've given them a clear, a clear thing 00:57:35.050 --> 00:57:37.000 - that we need information about. 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:44.070 - So it was the point of the presentation to primarily respond to the question. Yes, and the email 00:57:44.070 --> 00:57:48.000 - invitation. Yes, but I'm thinking, I'm just thinking. 00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:53.990 - You know, do they need to put together a PowerPoint like you know and like we don't think we need 00:57:53.990 --> 00:57:58.380 - all of that I think we just I think we just need them to come and answer the questions that we're 00:57:58.380 --> 00:58:01.000 - asking, and say we might have some follow up questions 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:05.180 - and, you know, and some of them might be as simple as hey we're just trying to understand like is 00:58:05.180 --> 00:58:09.000 - restore the same as this and they're like, no, and we're like, okay, thanks. 00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:14.000 - You know, like that might that might be the whole conversation right. 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:19.000 - Well, exactly. You get my point I'm just saying generally that, you know, super straightforward. 00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:23.500 - Yeah. And so we don't need them to come and tell us like what habits that you know like give us 00:58:23.500 --> 00:58:26.000 - this grandiose pitch about that like we can read it we know 00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:28.000 - what you're asking for. 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:32.980 - Is that sort of is everybody feeling that that so we can just make it a little bit more relaxed or, 00:58:32.980 --> 00:58:38.260 - or would you prefer that they came in and gave a gave a formal presentation for, for example, three 00:58:38.260 --> 00:58:39.000 - minutes. 00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:43.940 - And that's followed by formal questions I think the benefit of that is that everybody is done the 00:58:43.940 --> 00:58:49.070 - same way. And so, you know, again to that argument of not making it seem like we're favoring or not 00:58:49.070 --> 00:58:53.000 - favoring you know so everybody has the exact same, you know, setting 00:58:53.000 --> 00:59:02.300 - the same strategy. Although as a counterpoint, if you have specific questions, then why not use the 00:59:02.300 --> 00:59:07.000 - time to get give information. Exactly. That's that's that's that's my feeling. 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.000 - That's my feeling. Yeah. 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:14.810 - But I'm just saying it's just, I'm trying to envision in the meeting people coming in with these 00:59:14.810 --> 00:59:20.510 - presentations that they put together and maybe that's not that's not what we care about, for 00:59:20.510 --> 00:59:22.000 - example, yeah. 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.000 - Thank you. 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:30.390 - So everybody everybody okay then with this so so we'll send this, the general the question that we 00:59:30.390 --> 00:59:34.000 - have for the people who we have very specific questions for. 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.190 - So let's, so let's before we leave just let's go through and just make sure that we're okay with 00:59:38.190 --> 00:59:42.480 - all the questions that we're asking, at least that we have them clearly and, and then they'll come 00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:43.000 - in. 00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:51.160 - So it will take about 10 minutes so we'll schedule everybody within 10 minutes. So 10 minutes per 00:59:51.160 --> 00:59:52.000 - group. Yeah. 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:56.860 - No PowerPoint presentation, just kind of answer the question, if there was something specific 00:59:56.860 --> 01:00:01.000 - otherwise more like conversation style sound like maybe follow up questions. 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:07.000 - Yeah, we don't have specific questions just give them a general instruction to 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:12.730 - do some important things to know for us to know. Yeah, introduce yourself tell us a little bit 01:00:12.730 --> 01:00:15.000 - about yourself and your project. 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:21.000 - Yes, we said we wanted to know a little bit more about the organization and the project. 01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:26.300 - For any organizations that there weren't specific questions, I just put general information 01:00:26.300 --> 01:00:28.000 - requests on application. 01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:37.680 - Maybe though, so we did to tastefully or diplomatically put. We're absolutely not looking for them 01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:38.000 - to just fill time. 01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.000 - That's right. 01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:43.000 - They can be economical. 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.000 - They got 10 minutes. 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:51.000 - We don't want any thought. What was the thought that their presentation would take up. 01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:55.350 - Was it three minutes before that we went last year three minutes followed by, they might appreciate 01:00:55.350 --> 01:00:57.000 - knowing that. 01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:01.630 - There's no presentation. Just it doesn't have to be a 10 minute presentation. That's right. Three 01:01:01.630 --> 01:01:04.000 - minutes. Yeah. Four minutes. 01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:08.000 - I'll defer to your legal guidance, but is that structuring. 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:12.000 - Does that need to be a motion at that meeting. 01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:16.000 - Structuring it with the time limit and time caps like that. 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:23.700 - Is that is that even like an official. I think it might be smart to in that meeting and not decided 01:01:23.700 --> 01:01:24.000 - to. 01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:29.140 - That general idea because I think in the past also simple questions like are you a Bible once you 01:01:29.140 --> 01:01:32.000 - three have been answered in writing and we don't come in. 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:33.000 - Right. 01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:35.000 - Yeah, and that's what we've decided here. 01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:41.540 - That's what those will be handled by email. So the timing anything that I think constraints time 01:01:41.540 --> 01:01:44.000 - might need to be a motion. 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.000 - Okay, we might look into that. 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:48.000 - Okay, I'll defer to you. 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.000 - Your legal. 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:56.910 - I mean it doesn't hurt anything to make a motion and vote on it. I mean potentially you could even 01:01:56.910 --> 01:02:01.000 - do that tonight, if you know that you want the presentations to be. 01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:05.280 - I think we need to tell people what to expect. I don't think I don't think we can say come come for 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:09.730 - an interview and then they also been figure out what's about to happen I think we need to tell them 01:02:09.730 --> 01:02:12.000 - when they're coming, what time they're coming. 01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:16.000 - You know, just how it's going to go. 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:22.570 - So, so, but this does raise the question to me if we have some folks who we don't have any 01:02:22.570 --> 01:02:29.000 - questions for. Why are we inviting them for an interview. 01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:37.000 - Well, I guess that would differ from the new ones that we want to know about. 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:44.100 - Right, there were there were folks that I just didn't essentially understand the strength of their 01:02:44.100 --> 01:02:50.590 - application, you know, I guess maybe what we could, we could instruct those that I didn't have 01:02:50.590 --> 01:02:53.000 - specific questions where I'm just speaking from 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:58.210 - my own mind that because I know I had several where I was like I just want to hear more. Um, I want 01:02:58.210 --> 01:03:03.750 - them to convince me how this actually meets our requirements meets what we're looking, our mission 01:03:03.750 --> 01:03:07.000 - is what I'm trying to say. 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:14.000 - Right, I'm having trouble seeing that maybe this is pertinent to what our goals are so I'm trying 01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:20.000 - to give them more of a chance to my challenge with that approach is that if we then. 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.000 - So from the perspective of somebody we didn't invite. 01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:28.000 - If, if we were to not invite someone and not fund them. 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:33.000 - And we haven't given them that chance now it's it's quite strange. 01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:37.770 - Because because under that logic, everybody should have a platform to further convince us right and 01:03:37.770 --> 01:03:42.000 - then I think that we said well further convinced might be the wrong way. 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:47.190 - Is there a gap in a specific so like we look at like the long standing impact, you know community 01:03:47.190 --> 01:03:52.660 - serve like those like buckets buckets where they're like gaps in like specific bucket that we could 01:03:52.660 --> 01:03:57.000 - just cite as like, we didn't understand what the long term impact 01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:02.690 - is probably. Yes. Yeah, I like that if we're able to tell them something specific say there's like, 01:04:02.690 --> 01:04:08.180 - we didn't. We didn't get this about your application. Yeah, and we need we need a little bit more 01:04:08.180 --> 01:04:11.000 - information so that we can assess you correctly. 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:19.940 - Yeah. Yeah, I think you're saying someone said that if we don't ask for someone because we don't 01:04:19.940 --> 01:04:22.000 - need to, and then we don't fund them. 01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:28.010 - Yeah, we've asked some others just to come, maybe persuade us. Yeah, it is the unfair. That's right. 01:04:28.010 --> 01:04:34.930 - Or let's argue that. That's what I think. Yeah, I mean, I feel my worry going into this, though, by, 01:04:34.930 --> 01:04:39.000 - by doing it this approach, not asking everybody. 01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:43.910 - That was my worry going into this. Yeah, agree. People who don't get funded who didn't get funded 01:04:43.910 --> 01:04:45.000 - in the first place. 01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.790 - So, so case could you go quickly over the list who are so, and just just super quick if you can 01:04:49.790 --> 01:04:55.130 - like, you know, the ones that we added questions for. Amethyst. Yeah, Amethyst house there's no 01:04:55.130 --> 01:04:56.000 - specific questions. 01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:00.220 - Big brother big sister more information on part time relationship caseworker and how that can 01:05:00.220 --> 01:05:04.980 - potentially be funded down the road. Bloomington St. Vincent somewhere happens last year how did 01:05:04.980 --> 01:05:06.000 - the funding go. 01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:12.050 - Girls Club questions to clarify project how many Bloomington residents specifically are served like 01:05:12.050 --> 01:05:17.520 - that it to me a very perfect example of like, we need to know this to evaluate you like we like we 01:05:17.520 --> 01:05:21.000 - can evaluate without that information right right. 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:25.780 - We're not really favoring them or anything we're just saying like, if we don't have this 01:05:25.780 --> 01:05:31.270 - information, you'll be in, you would be in a worse situation right so so I think that's that's that's 01:05:31.270 --> 01:05:32.000 - great. 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:36.120 - I just want to say one thing about that one specifically is that we do ask the question, number of 01:05:36.120 --> 01:05:39.000 - city residents served I think they answered like 200. 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000 - So do we really. 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:48.340 - We're like unclear about like how how are 200 residents served in Ellisville like and that's that's 01:05:48.340 --> 01:05:53.230 - the point is sort of wanting them to like, you know, like, you know, are these, where's the 01:05:53.230 --> 01:05:58.000 - evidence yes where's that we where's the evidence that is 200 from Bloomington that are, 01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:02.000 - you know, I'm sorry. 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:06.050 - Okay, next one would be Catholic charities similar application last year how did the funding go 01:06:06.050 --> 01:06:10.050 - community justice meditation centers how big of an outreach is this Creston Hill Refuge is a new 01:06:10.050 --> 01:06:13.000 - applicant but also just general information about the application 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:20.320 - was general information request application exodus refugee immigration was questions about where 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:27.450 - the rest of their funding comes from girls think of Monroe County with general information request 01:06:27.450 --> 01:06:29.000 - an application. 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:33.600 - Specifically, that was that the request is very broad and so wanting to know how it fits into the 01:06:33.600 --> 01:06:35.000 - jack hopkins mission. 01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:41.060 - Indiana Recovery Alliance was similar application last year how did the funding go last year 01:06:41.060 --> 01:06:47.090 - lantern was new applicant by all new applicants to present new hope for families was circumstances 01:06:47.090 --> 01:06:50.000 - is why the application of financial statements relate 01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:54.820 - parenthood is wanting to know why they're not asking for more and where the rest of their funding 01:06:54.820 --> 01:06:59.830 - comes from Hendrix or Susie's place the Hendrix County child was general information question that 01:06:59.830 --> 01:07:02.000 - requested an application as well as where they serve because 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.000 - the title is Hendrix County. 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:09.930 - Beacon Community First Center general information request on application and then unclear what the 01:07:09.930 --> 01:07:14.750 - need is for the collaboration, the collaborative applicants have long community land trust was a 01:07:14.750 --> 01:07:19.000 - new applicant so inviting them to present beacon and health net was 01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:22.000 - more information on the nature of their relationship. 01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:27.250 - People and Animal Learning Services was general information requested, and then restore was the 01:07:27.250 --> 01:07:29.000 - nature of the relationship. 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:37.000 - And so what the ones that were that were not having any questions what were they amethyst amethyst. 01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:42.000 - There's several it was amethyst 01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:51.000 - crested hill but they're also a new applicant, El Centro. 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:55.990 - Yeah, I guess. And then people Animal Learning Services, so I guess we'll sort of sort of question 01:07:55.990 --> 01:08:01.070 - for those three is that we want to know a little bit more about the organization is our specific 01:08:01.070 --> 01:08:02.000 - question. 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.000 - Yeah. 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:14.880 - Okay, so, but see I think for all the other ways for all of them we have a very we have a very 01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:25.360 - pointed question. I'm prepared to answer this and we might have follow ups. That's the that's the 01:08:25.360 --> 01:08:26.530 - instructions to them. Right. And say, you know, a few minutes for sort of a few minutes at the 01:08:26.530 --> 01:08:27.310 - beginning to sort of answer that question and the structure with you on and then we'll ask some 01:08:27.310 --> 01:08:28.000 - follow ups, and we think this will take no more than about 10 minutes. 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:30.000 - Everybody okay with that. 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:35.000 - Do we need an official motion to make that decision. 01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:41.010 - Doesn't hurt anything. Okay, so, um, can some do I will, I will at this point entertain a motion. 01:08:41.010 --> 01:08:44.000 - Yeah, somebody wants to make a motion. 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:48.000 - I motion. 01:08:48.000 --> 01:09:07.230 - The statement. Okay, I motion that we invite the selected applicants to come and answer questions 01:09:07.230 --> 01:09:11.000 - pointed specific questions about their applications and each be a lot of 10 minutes time. 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.000 - Second, we have a motion in a second. 01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:22.310 - All those in favor we have a person online so we have to do a roll call will the clerk please call 01:09:22.310 --> 01:09:26.000 - the roll wonderful Council Member Rallo. 01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.000 - Yes. 01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:32.000 - Council Member rough. Yes. 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:42.000 - Miss career. 01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:44.000 - I say yes. 01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:51.000 - Miss McNish. Yes, that passes unanimously. 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.000 - Yay. Well, 01:09:54.000 --> 01:10:01.770 - okay, any other any other business question with respect to the email responses that are going out 01:10:01.770 --> 01:10:09.300 - to require the missing information or financial information, we probably should set a deadline for 01:10:09.300 --> 01:10:10.000 - that. 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:18.940 - Good point. Is there a particular date that you won't be able to send the email till Thursday I 01:10:18.940 --> 01:10:24.000 - suppose yes yeah so of course so Monday by Monday. 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:29.040 - And so does that mean then if they don't get it by Monday that they're disqualified. I think it 01:10:29.040 --> 01:10:38.000 - means that that we will when we get to reviewing that will be something we consider. 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:42.000 - And then, also on the point of emails. 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:46.800 - The email that went out to agencies last year inviting them to present, I have pulled up in a word 01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:51.480 - doc here and I readlined obviously a lot of it's going to be need to need to be changed in terms of 01:10:51.480 --> 01:10:53.000 - verbiage because like it starts with. 01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:57.460 - We are pleased to inform you that your agency was among those selected to present your project was 01:10:57.460 --> 01:11:01.220 - ready. Obviously it needs to be changed. I don't know if there's any kind of discussion that wants 01:11:01.220 --> 01:11:04.000 - to be had about the contents of that email here or 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:10.310 - outside the people who have not been accepted for not accepted invited for an interview that says 01:11:10.310 --> 01:11:15.530 - that. So, so let's let's talk about them first. I think the email to them says and just tell me if 01:11:15.530 --> 01:11:16.000 - you have another feeling. 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:19.220 - I'm not just trying to spray this and trying to make it efficient. I think the email to them says, 01:11:19.220 --> 01:11:22.980 - you know, we're pleased to tell you that you've moved on to the next round and you will you will be 01:11:22.980 --> 01:11:26.000 - getting considered at our meeting on X date. 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:32.000 - There's an open meeting if you want if you want to be there to hear good for you. Right. 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:39.100 - All everybody feel like that's fine. Do we need to, because they'll probably hear that some were 01:11:39.100 --> 01:11:42.000 - invited. So do we need to acknowledge. 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:56.240 - We have invited some applicants to. Yeah, so this year this year I specific points but we're not 01:11:56.240 --> 01:11:56.660 - asking everybody who's moved on around to that. Yes. So So this year this year the committee opted 01:11:56.660 --> 01:12:00.000 - to not invite everybody for interviews as we have done in the past. 01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:07.470 - Only those that we needed clarification from this will this this has no bearing on your application 01:12:07.470 --> 01:12:11.000 - as you've already moved on to the next stage. 01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:19.020 - So do we would you call it stage three. Right. I mean, instead of stage two, but if somebody wants 01:12:19.020 --> 01:12:24.000 - to want to elect to present, even though they weren't asked. 01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:30.000 - I don't. I think we decided no to that right. Yeah. 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:45.000 - Yeah, a couple of that. Yeah. 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:51.500 - It gives you a greater sense of comfort during the technical assistance meeting, I made clear that 01:12:51.500 --> 01:12:54.000 - the rules would be different. 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:59.080 - With respect to this presentation, it was also on every single document sent out in bold and 01:12:59.080 --> 01:13:04.770 - highlight. I do want to ask, though, that for the folks who are not being asked to present, but did 01:13:04.770 --> 01:13:07.000 - have missing documents. 01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:11.340 - Will it be confusing if they get two emails, one that says you need to submit these documents by 01:13:11.340 --> 01:13:16.030 - this deadline, and a second one that says congratulations you've been moved on to the next round, 01:13:16.030 --> 01:13:22.000 - even though we're not asking to present does that communicate anything conflicting. 01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:27.350 - Well, so, how do you intend to do you intend to mail merge this or do you intend to send it out 01:13:27.350 --> 01:13:32.740 - individually to the last year is said well last year the presentation invitations were sent 01:13:32.740 --> 01:13:35.000 - individually dear agency name. 01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:40.410 - Yeah, I guess as a consequence, why don't you just do it this way it's like you have moved on, 01:13:40.410 --> 01:13:45.000 - however, for the ones who we still need we still need this documentation from you. 01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:52.540 - And, you know, and failure to do so many may render you ineligible. Yeah, I think that last 01:13:52.540 --> 01:13:57.000 - statement should be added in case they don't submit it. 01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:03.560 - And so so that's that so that's the ones who are not invited, the ones who are, let's use different 01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:10.120 - language, the ones who we are not asking to give us more information. Then, for the folks who we 01:14:10.120 --> 01:14:13.000 - are asking, it's, I think, dear agency. 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:20.200 - We would like to invite you, you know, greetings from the grant Hopkins committee we'd like to ask 01:14:20.200 --> 01:14:24.000 - you for an interview to ask a few more questions. 01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:29.000 - And then and then say specifically the committee wanted to know this. 01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:33.890 - This is going to be the structure of it we expect this to take no longer than 10 minutes, your 01:14:33.890 --> 01:14:35.000 - schedule for this time. 01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:42.660 - So you can, at the beginning to sort of answer this question and they might have follow up 01:14:42.660 --> 01:14:50.850 - questions, and then say we will let you know after the interview whether you've moved on to the 01:14:50.850 --> 01:14:52.000 - next round. 01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:59.000 - Well done. Yeah, question though about this, because that that the interviews are next Tuesday. 01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:04.000 - And are you, you're not going to be able to send this until Thursday. Correct. 01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:08.000 - Is, are we okay with that. 01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:13.930 - Like is there, is that from Thursday to Monday. Yeah, Thursday to Monday to prepare some of that 01:15:13.930 --> 01:15:19.330 - you'll send it to do it quite early in the morning or something or no it'll be I mean I come in at 01:15:19.330 --> 01:15:24.000 - one on Thursdays, so I'll get started on it immediately when I come in. 01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:29.000 - And there's already kind of a template made once I have the template made. 01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:35.000 - And I'll just, you know, basically copy and paste with it. It will be by 5pm on Thursday. 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:38.000 - It's not necessary. 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.320 - We give them a time on Monday like a deadline time Monday by, you know, for the for the information 01:15:42.320 --> 01:15:46.670 - for them to have their response. I mean the stuff the stuff that we're asking for is fill out fill 01:15:46.670 --> 01:15:52.000 - out a budget template for one of them, and just send us 501 C3 proof like that's 01:15:52.000 --> 01:16:00.370 - by 5pm on Monday. Yeah, that's fair. That gives them all day Friday and all day Monday, and but we're 01:16:00.370 --> 01:16:05.000 - okay with them getting notice on Thursday that they've been asked to come to the interview. 01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:10.110 - That that's not too little time versus, I mean it's one day. I said this, I mean the alternative is 01:16:10.110 --> 01:16:16.000 - that they get it tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. We're okay. Everybody's okay with that. 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:23.120 - Yeah, I mean, the issue is, right now, we don't have the staff to do it. Exactly. I'm wondering if 01:16:23.120 --> 01:16:27.140 - you know I mean the you know the nuclear option is that we, we could reschedule the interviews, I 01:16:27.140 --> 01:16:29.000 - mean, right. 01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.860 - I was gonna say the only other option is to push that back. The only reason why that would need to 01:16:32.860 --> 01:16:37.460 - happen is if you are uncomfortable with them getting it by end of day on Thursday, but there's no 01:16:37.460 --> 01:16:39.000 - reason why they won't get it by end of day on Thursday. 01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:46.400 - I mean, it's guaranteed it will be given to everybody by 5pm on Thursday. Yeah, but that's 01:16:46.400 --> 01:16:48.650 - uncomfortable. And they're not preparing presentations, you know, I might feel a little more 01:16:48.650 --> 01:16:51.000 - comfortable if we were saying, yeah, put together a four minute PowerPoint. 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:58.520 - But what if they just already have plans. So if we've asked for maybe maybe what we want is a proviso 01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:05.940 - that said proviso proviso proviso that says, should you not be able to attend that we would accept 01:17:05.940 --> 01:17:09.000 - answers and writing to the question. 01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:13.000 - However, we haven't asked a super specific question to all of them. 01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:18.560 - So what do we do in the case that they're not able to attend. So we're given the same time frame 01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:24.000 - for those who are going to respond by email as well as the bills were going to be presented. 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:29.000 - Now, the ones who are responding by email have to buy Monday. 01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:35.390 - Yeah, but it's like the thing that you know the very simple thing. It's like here is proof that I'm 01:17:35.390 --> 01:17:43.000 - a 501 c three. That's that's like, yeah, I think there's enough time to send and Monday, five p.m. 01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.950 - Yes, but the question is for the ones who have to present on Tuesday, have we given them enough 01:17:46.950 --> 01:17:52.000 - time if we tell them Thursday at five p.m. that they're having to present on Tuesday. 01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:59.050 - This is a big assumption but since the schedule was set, and there's agency presentations, they 01:17:59.050 --> 01:18:03.000 - should know. 01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.000 - And the fact that there were presentations last year. 01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:11.120 - Yeah, so they should know. I mean, the only thing that I'm somewhat worried about if you don't get 01:18:11.120 --> 01:18:17.320 - the information ahead of time, because it's good Friday. So people might not be answering your 01:18:17.320 --> 01:18:18.000 - emails on Friday. 01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:24.000 - Once again, the agency presentations were set, and last year everyone presented, so there should be 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:29.000 - some expectation, and they have Monday, and it's not a formal presentation. 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:35.000 - No, that I didn't think about Good Friday. 01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:38.890 - And we can also interview people on Zoom and so on. So it's 10 minutes, right? We're asking for 10 01:18:38.890 --> 01:18:40.000 - minutes on a Tuesday night. 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.000 - And weren't there one or two groups that couldn't make it last year? 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:48.000 - Yeah, and then we also didn't hold that answer. 01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.100 - So do we still want there to be a provision that says if you're not able to attend, we accept 01:18:51.100 --> 01:18:54.000 - answers in writing? Do we want to mention that they can answer over Zoom? 01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:59.000 - Let's just rather just say, you know, please confirm that you can attend. 01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:06.000 - Let's not offer alternatives off the bat. 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:12.210 - I mean, maybe we don't need to say that. Maybe we just, because then you don't need to deal with 29 01:19:12.210 --> 01:19:13.000 - emails. 01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:16.750 - I mean, the only thing, though, is that, you know, if I send this on Thursday and then people 01:19:16.750 --> 01:19:21.000 - respond Monday afternoon, no, I can't attend. What are we going to do? 01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.000 - Yeah, that's my point, is that we've already set some times. 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.000 - It's not going to necessarily change anything. 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:31.640 - And then you're okay to set the just put them in basic, basically alphabetical order. But then, but 01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:37.010 - be careful with the double if they're if we're asking, I don't think there's anyone that amethyst 01:19:37.010 --> 01:19:39.000 - is one that has pulled a collaborative. 01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:44.520 - So make sure that they get, you know, sort of a double listed twice. Yeah, a double block. Right. 01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:48.970 - Yeah. Is there any reason why, because I just have this structured like this packet as well that 01:19:48.970 --> 01:19:52.000 - like all individual applicants go first, then all collaborative 01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:57.530 - beacons or do we want us to review. Yes, it's fine this way, but I think for the presentations. Let's, 01:19:57.530 --> 01:20:02.920 - let's do them how they were listed. So like if it was a collaborative thing I'm thinking do 01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:04.000 - individuals right. 01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:09.920 - But, but, but if beacon. We're calling begin and only to talk about their right, their thing, their 01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:15.440 - collaborative there but but amethyst we have twice right so don't make them, you know, come here 01:20:15.440 --> 01:20:19.000 - and then come here you know right right one after the other. 01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:26.690 - Let's go, even rather than collaborative or individual it'll be alphabetic based on who is the 01:20:26.690 --> 01:20:31.000 - agency that was listed on the application exactly. 01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.000 - Hey, any other business. 01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:41.560 - Well, are we on are we being. Is this like, like officially being reported. Yes, yes, this is a 01:20:41.560 --> 01:20:44.000 - public meeting. 01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:52.000 - Okay. 01:20:52.000 --> 01:21:00.000 - Is there anything based off of what we're requiring that is automatic ejection of somebody from. 01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:03.000 - And should that be noted. 01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:07.800 - Well, that was something that we talked about at the beginning of this meeting of are there also 01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:12.540 - applicants that we just want to deny right now as we're going through them and as we went through 01:21:12.540 --> 01:21:14.000 - the list of applicants. 01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:18.830 - There wasn't, you know, anybody that anybody said you should deny them so nobody has been denied up 01:21:18.830 --> 01:21:23.000 - until this point. The only reason I think that that would have been the case would have been 01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:26.000 - missing documents which were not giving them another chance to submit 01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:30.790 - those. And otherwise, if it was in terms of like content, they're either being asked to present or 01:21:30.790 --> 01:21:35.000 - they just weren't mentioned by anybody getting this meeting to deny them right now. 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:39.000 - We haven't, for example, found an applicant. 01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:48.760 - Who's 501 C3 has been rejected or when there are a couple of applicants where we can't confirm it, 01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:57.230 - but we don't see where it's been revoked on any of the applicants, just to use that as an example, 01:21:57.230 --> 01:22:00.000 - because I think that would be. 01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:09.220 - I mean, if we had proof that that status had been revoked, then I think we'd have to reject that 01:22:09.220 --> 01:22:11.000 - application. 01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:16.340 - But it's a it's the basic requirements of the ground they have to be a 51 C3 but it's not obvious 01:22:16.340 --> 01:22:19.000 - for them to show us if they are. 01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:25.040 - And with the consideration of presentation versus not presentation of some reason they can't, or 01:22:25.040 --> 01:22:26.000 - they don't. 01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:30.000 - Are you saying that that works against them and is that something that's going to be written. 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:36.000 - Well, it only works so far as we can't, we can't grade the rubric as clearly. 01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:45.540 - So automatic denial. No, because everybody has to get get rated on the rubric was the decision we 01:22:45.540 --> 01:22:50.000 - made so we'll fund them based on their rankings. 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:55.270 - So if we're not funding somebody we'd have a clear reason to say it say we didn't understand this 01:22:55.270 --> 01:22:57.000 - about your application. 01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:02.820 - That leads me to a logistics question that in terms of like how we want to standardize everyone 01:23:02.820 --> 01:23:07.410 - filling out their own rubric like, I don't know, I don't even know what it looks like if you want 01:23:07.410 --> 01:23:10.000 - to, if you want to fill out like the template with the 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:18.000 - organizations the amount requested and like that like, set in stone information and then like, 01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:22.550 - Oh, and then, like all the information on those rubrics, like the hard information and that request 01:23:22.550 --> 01:23:26.000 - like I said I've already filled out and then you guys can just fill it out. 01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.000 - Yeah, I think that's doable. I don't know why not. 01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:30.000 - Which which information. 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:35.000 - Just like the organization, you know, like their location. 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:40.760 - Like, yeah, yeah, pretty much everything that's on the graphic. Yeah, and then if everybody gets 01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:45.360 - sent that template with that and they can just make their own copy and fill out the drop downs that 01:23:45.360 --> 01:23:47.000 - work for everyone. 01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:55.980 - So, I had a question about that related to that, which is, are our individual group evaluations, 01:23:55.980 --> 01:23:59.000 - going to be available public. 01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:07.840 - If someone says I want to see stocks. Well, yes, I mean, the, yes, yes, by any means, because just 01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:16.000 - us discussing them at a public meeting, people could always go and look at what we discussed. 01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:23.110 - So, but yeah, but the question is then, are we going to send them. Do we then send every 01:24:23.110 --> 01:24:25.000 - organization. 01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:29.750 - Are we going to first, are we going to send organization that rubric are we just going to have them, 01:24:29.750 --> 01:24:34.200 - should a organization asked for them. And then obviously it's in public so they could always look 01:24:34.200 --> 01:24:37.000 - for them but are we going to facilitate saying you, you've 01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:40.000 - been awarded and here's your rubric. 01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:47.530 - I think it should be available I don't think we should send them. It would be a request. It'd be a 01:24:47.530 --> 01:24:51.000 - request I mean, I mean, so like, you don't have to send it to them. 01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:58.790 - So like, like federal grants for example you do get like for an NSF grant, you're like, here's your 01:24:58.790 --> 01:25:05.000 - review, if you, if you don't get it, it's just like comes with your rejection. 01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:11.960 - We could do that. Yeah, I don't know what the prior practice has been, but I think practice because 01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:14.000 - we haven't had a rubric. Okay. 01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:22.090 - You know, I think any document prepared or submitted by a committee member or staff is subject to 01:25:22.090 --> 01:25:30.010 - the Access to Public Records Act, our goal with the rubric was to be more transparent with with 01:25:30.010 --> 01:25:34.000 - people about how these decisions were made. 01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:39.370 - And it's the structure of our conversation in the public meeting. Exactly. Yeah, that but like, and 01:25:39.370 --> 01:25:45.170 - then and so so I mean I would I would support us making making because I also think it's good for 01:25:45.170 --> 01:25:48.000 - accountability, because there are. 01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:53.570 - I was talking to a grant, a past applicant who did not apply this year and asked me why don't you 01:25:53.570 --> 01:25:59.410 - apply, and their response was well look I've never I've never gotten and I've never understood why 01:25:59.410 --> 01:26:02.000 - and they had some some theory for why. 01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:07.270 - And they're like so I'm not going to apply again. Okay, but they never forgot any feedback on why 01:26:07.270 --> 01:26:12.260 - right so so there's a broader sense of why we do fund or why we don't fund something, and you're 01:26:12.260 --> 01:26:15.000 - all going to get those emails it's like don't fund such 01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:20.010 - and such because it's about such and such or whatever like we're going to get those types of emails. 01:26:20.010 --> 01:26:24.570 - And so you also want the ability to say like this is the track record of how this was funded the 01:26:24.570 --> 01:26:27.000 - reasoning about it and so on and so forth and also structures 01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:30.000 - how people apply in years to come. 01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:34.800 - I mean I feel like it's more just about like if we're prepared with staff capacity to like have 01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:40.080 - that comment section for for each of them for the results being published. So my thinking though 01:26:40.080 --> 01:26:45.000 - was that was that you actually published the collective rubric rather 01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:49.760 - which would be, but then the question is how do we do it we average out all of the, and do we just 01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:54.450 - do the sort of do we just do the points and not the, not the comments that were just like you 01:26:54.450 --> 01:26:59.000 - scored a three like your your average score was a three. 01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:02.000 - So, 01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:09.000 - the criteria is by disqualification to be with the denial of the application. 01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:15.000 - If so, yeah, yeah, I mean, and that would be the same for the acceptance ones. 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:20.040 - I mean, we didn't deny really anyone I think there was one, maybe like two people who didn't get 01:27:20.040 --> 01:27:26.080 - funded last year like it was like, yeah we didn't find my sister's closet we didn't find them on 01:27:26.080 --> 01:27:27.000 - the climate. 01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:35.000 - We didn't find the one collaborative one. I mean, I mean the vast majority of people get funded. 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:42.000 - So, but the point my point is that it's less about. I think I think it's, I think it's. 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:47.900 - I feel like the point the point of our rubric is transparency and accountability, but also structuring 01:27:47.900 --> 01:27:51.000 - the way that we discuss all of the applications. 01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:55.670 - That's why I'm just searching for this question about the equine thing, you know, so we actually 01:27:55.670 --> 01:28:02.000 - have a solid we're like look like this just doesn't stack up to you, if you if that's the argument. 01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:07.000 - Or maybe it's like the best application we have based on the criteria that we said. 01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:12.460 - And so you can just do well. Okay, super. So so I would just say that that what we should do with 01:28:12.460 --> 01:28:16.890 - the rubric, everybody should fill it out with any notes you would have done anyways would be 01:28:16.890 --> 01:28:19.000 - subject to people asking for them. 01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:26.130 - In that case, I think we all should fill it out, and so that we can then structured to have some 01:28:26.130 --> 01:28:28.000 - type of discussion. 01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:33.970 - But I think what we would present to people sort of more formally would be the summary version of 01:28:33.970 --> 01:28:35.000 - all of them. 01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:40.000 - And I'm happy to put that together once once we all have a reverse. 01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:49.000 - So that so that it's not like you know Andy Andy hate sources or something. 01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:54.870 - A couple of years ago when we used to actually individually rate, and just a sign of money for each 01:28:54.870 --> 01:29:00.400 - agency and then we'd all come and people would ask for I want to see the individual exactly, 01:29:00.400 --> 01:29:02.000 - exactly, exactly. 01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:08.790 - But do be mindful of that obviously so so if you you know if you have your internal head thoughts, 01:29:08.790 --> 01:29:15.000 - you know, I don't like the font, maybe don't write those on a piece of paper. 01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:20.750 - Of course being a little facetious but you think it makes sense to listen again, and the needs of 01:29:20.750 --> 01:29:25.230 - logistics but for there to be on the Google sheet that we work from for each person just to have 01:29:25.230 --> 01:29:28.000 - their own tab that they fill out and we're all in the 01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:37.000 - document, like the only issue is that that that runs against ODL laws if we're all on the same time. 01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:43.000 - Yeah, it seemed to be like exchanging 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:50.840 - information. So, so it's better everybody make a copy of this document and fill it out and then and 01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:58.130 - then once we have our deliberation send them in so we can format the ultimate calls because also 01:29:58.130 --> 01:30:03.000 - during the devilers and you might change based on our, based on our conversation, 01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:10.000 - but the point is that that should happen publicly not about, you know, 01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:18.000 - excellent with that I will call us adjourned. 01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:51.500 - (upbeat orchestral music) 01:30:51.500 --> 01:30:55.000 - (upbeat orchestral music) 01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:58.500 - (upbeat orchestral music) 01:30:58.500 --> 01:31:02.000 - (upbeat orchestral music)