WEBVTT 00:00:00.258 --> 00:00:08.243 - Hear ye, hear ye, I officially call this Jack Hopkins pre-allocation meeting to order. And so we heard. 00:00:08.243 --> 00:00:15.998 - Or 2026. I'm, there we go, trying to get the, not trying, I do have the document open, I'm trying to 00:00:15.998 --> 00:00:17.918 - make it a little bigger. 00:00:18.178 --> 00:00:24.455 - Is anyone going to be sharing anything on the screen? Well, I was going to ask if we can. Are you able 00:00:24.455 --> 00:00:30.731 - to or should I? I think yeah, because then I would have to drive it. It doesn't make sense, but I will 00:00:30.731 --> 00:00:36.581 - share that. Join the meeting. I'll make you a cohost and then you can share this with us. Well, 00:00:36.581 --> 00:00:42.675 - thank you. Yeah, alright, so patients. Everyone. Please. As I figure out the link or should I be in 00:00:42.675 --> 00:00:46.270 - your calendar at all? Do you have access to your calendar? 00:00:48.802 --> 00:00:59.239 - I never remember to actually use this calendar, because everything automatically reports to my calendar. 00:00:59.239 --> 00:01:09.377 - But zoom meeting. All right, so I figure we will. Why is it not opening for me? By the way, thank you 00:01:09.377 --> 00:01:15.838 - very much for that. I didn't respond, but here it is. The email. 00:01:16.002 --> 00:01:25.005 - about the agendas, the agenda. Oh yeah, I didn't write them for tonight because we were just going over 00:01:25.005 --> 00:01:33.922 - the allocations and I figured we didn't need it. And then as I was driving here, I was like, oh, maybe 00:01:33.922 --> 00:01:43.358 - I was supposed to. Although committees are different. Yeah, committees are a little funky. Super. Thank you. 00:01:46.402 --> 00:02:02.301 - So I'm going to pull up this document for us to share. And then I'll try to make it bigger because I 00:02:02.301 --> 00:02:08.126 - don't have my reading glasses today. 00:02:30.466 --> 00:02:43.109 - There we go. Zoom a little bit. Oh, I did that. Okay. So thank you all for your patience with the rubrics. 00:02:43.109 --> 00:02:54.925 - I know we were all very late getting up to, or most of us were. So I apologize to our staff who was 00:02:54.925 --> 00:02:58.942 - helping us. I'm grateful for the, 00:03:00.738 --> 00:03:08.483 - patience as we got it all done. Now, I'm just going to... Okay. Can everybody see that well enough? 00:03:08.483 --> 00:03:16.383 - Yep. All right. And you all have access to this document anyway. Well, Esau, just so you know. That's 00:03:16.383 --> 00:03:24.127 - over there. It's just purging. All righty. Now, I'm going to test one thing if you guys don't mind. 00:03:24.127 --> 00:03:28.542 - I want to see if I... Oh, I can't. You can just open it. 00:03:30.466 --> 00:03:37.252 - Are you trying to edit it? No. Oh, OK. I was going to say, can we open it in Google if we need to? Do 00:03:37.252 --> 00:03:44.038 - you want to? Well, because this is in Excel. And then it's all formatted funky. Oh, I see. I see. And 00:03:44.038 --> 00:03:51.024 - I don't want to mess with that. But we are going to have to edit it as we're going through. So why don't 00:03:51.024 --> 00:03:57.744 - I? Sorry, guys. Should I just? Evan said there was one in the drive, right? Yeah, there's one there. 00:03:57.744 --> 00:03:59.806 - But I don't know what that is. 00:04:00.322 --> 00:04:10.024 - Or like, I don't know, did we? Okay, I do, I think. Cool. I don't know how to get there. Okay, I'm gonna 00:04:10.024 --> 00:04:19.356 - stop sharing for a second. This is called committee meetings online. Thank you for your patience. So 00:04:19.356 --> 00:04:28.781 - did anybody have any difficulty ultimately at the end of the day, like getting everything settled and 00:04:28.781 --> 00:04:29.982 - figured out? 00:04:31.074 --> 00:04:39.358 - No, it was a little tricky. Yeah, the rubric was tricky. And I think that the next round, whoever does 00:04:39.358 --> 00:04:47.722 - this, it'll be easier. But it was a little tricky, especially with the scoring. Yeah, the scoring tones 00:04:47.722 --> 00:04:55.201 - changed. Yeah. It hyperinflated everything, right? So everybody ended up with a high rating, 00:04:55.201 --> 00:05:00.670 - except you. Yeah, I don't. You changed the grammars in yours. Yeah. 00:05:00.866 --> 00:05:07.999 - Oh yeah, I moved mine to like 10 or more, it was very high, 8 or 9 was high. Because we added things 00:05:07.999 --> 00:05:15.203 - because last year, the 5, 6 place made sense. Okay. I don't see it anywhere. Actually, are we able to 00:05:15.203 --> 00:05:22.478 - find it in the drive? No, but I don't even know what drive he needs. There's the iDrive and the Google 00:05:22.478 --> 00:05:29.470 - sweet drive. Yeah, I was in the Google. I can check the drive. What is it that you're looking for? 00:05:29.954 --> 00:05:37.417 - So put this in the Google Drive so we can edit it. So as we're going through, just track what we're 00:05:37.417 --> 00:05:44.879 - doing. Just what? If you download it and put it up there, what is it? Well, it's in an Excel sheet. 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:51.819 - And then the formatting is all bananas and hard to read, which we can take the moment to do. 00:05:51.819 --> 00:05:56.670 - We have options. And I'm trying to find the quickest one for us. 00:05:58.626 --> 00:06:05.963 - I opened it in Google Sheets Online, and it didn't make it too funky. OK. Do you want to join the meeting, 00:06:05.963 --> 00:06:12.958 - too, and share? Again, if that's what you do. Would you mind? That's going to make you the secretary. 00:06:12.958 --> 00:06:19.815 - Why don't you just try it real quick. Open it and click for it. Instead of open with, just say open 00:06:19.815 --> 00:06:26.878 - with Google Sheets. Well, it's attached as an Excel. Yeah. And then you click open with Google Sheets. 00:06:27.554 --> 00:06:42.354 - to share your screen real quick. Okay. Okay. Hold on. Here we go. I'm going to share my screen again. 00:06:42.354 --> 00:06:56.574 - Okay. So right here, download, drive, or edit with Google Sheets. Isaac, you're a genius. Thanks. 00:06:57.602 --> 00:07:07.139 - I mean it. So does this? Yeah. Where? You know when you click it like the way you clicked last time? 00:07:07.139 --> 00:07:16.582 - Yeah, I know. It just was supposed to. Did you just click the whole thing? Click like the middle of 00:07:16.582 --> 00:07:26.686 - it? Look at it. And then at the top, where it said, yeah, do that. Edit the latest. There we are. Do this. 00:07:26.818 --> 00:07:35.579 - And that, my friends. And if you share with us the link, we could all actively edit it as well. 00:07:35.579 --> 00:07:44.705 - Or just share. Just click Share and then type our names in or something. It'll all work. I think we 00:07:44.705 --> 00:07:54.104 - should all actively shoot. And if you're in charge, don't just sit here to make suggestions. Everybody 00:07:54.104 --> 00:07:55.838 - suck tells me. OK. 00:07:57.602 --> 00:08:07.004 - You all have editing privileges. I just sent you all a notification. You can get in there. Thank you. 00:08:07.004 --> 00:08:16.406 - Thank you for helping me figure this out. OK. So I guess we'll just go in order of how they're listed 00:08:16.406 --> 00:08:25.900 - here on this document. And I think one suggestion, just a minor one, a sense check one, is that if you 00:08:25.900 --> 00:08:27.006 - average out 00:08:27.266 --> 00:08:33.772 - because we've averaged out the scores, but we haven't averaged out the amounts. We haven't. And so if 00:08:33.772 --> 00:08:40.150 - we add, and I can do that real quick, but if we, if everybody's okay with it, I suggest that we add 00:08:40.150 --> 00:08:46.655 - an average amount on this side to sort of see if we're getting involved or if that gives us something 00:08:46.655 --> 00:08:53.225 - to move on. And then do we want to organize it by score to go highest to lowest? Like, would that make 00:08:53.225 --> 00:08:56.286 - it easier? Like the average scores? Yeah. Yeah. 00:08:56.386 --> 00:09:05.023 - Yeah, we could do that. Rather than just going in that order that it's in right now, because that's 00:09:05.023 --> 00:09:13.747 - usually what we do. Yeah, we do the highest to lowest. Okay, I'm gonna. I don't mind like switching. 00:09:13.747 --> 00:09:18.238 - I just don't want to mess up whatever you're doing. 00:09:26.594 --> 00:09:40.742 - think about work. Oh, you might be able to sort the very high. There's a column that's the very high, 00:09:40.742 --> 00:09:48.926 - high, maybe that one. The right up here, this one, the Oh, 00:09:49.442 --> 00:10:04.727 - Right. Because I think these are grouped together. I think they're linked, so I might have to. But I'm 00:10:04.727 --> 00:10:18.974 - going to try doing it by column X. Okay. Make sure you. Okay. But did you. Yeah, make sure you. 00:10:19.298 --> 00:10:41.836 - Yeah. Actually, I'm sorry. It will change by itself. Yes. Well, and it should because it's Google Sheets. 00:10:41.836 --> 00:10:49.278 - It takes everything from it. Okay. 00:10:49.538 --> 00:10:56.768 - reasonable, like a show at risk of life. But I'm just noting that if you essentially, just a, just a 00:10:56.768 --> 00:11:04.428 - quick note, if we essentially gave the average of what we're suggesting, well, our money just fell without 00:11:04.428 --> 00:11:11.730 - any, without any questions, we don't go over or under, we're at, we're like four and nine, three. Oh. 00:11:11.730 --> 00:11:19.390 - So just, just noting that this, you know. Well, that's a really good start. I think maybe then that helps. 00:11:19.842 --> 00:11:26.543 - I think we can talk through each of these pretty quickly then, and if anybody has strong feelings about 00:11:26.543 --> 00:11:32.987 - what the allocation came out to, we can have a discussion if we want to change anything. Otherwise, 00:11:32.987 --> 00:11:39.688 - go us for being in good shape. Yeah, thank you. We'll see. Yeah, that's why I was like trying to, like, 00:11:39.688 --> 00:11:46.131 - oh, this is like very annoying to look at like this. All right. So we're ready to start. Start with 00:11:46.131 --> 00:11:47.742 - Hoosier Hills Food Bank. 00:11:49.570 --> 00:11:56.292 - Yeah. All right. So they rated the highest average score. The minimum that they got was six. 00:11:56.292 --> 00:12:03.592 - The max was 11.5. Average allocation was $39,063.29 and they requested $40,000. I'm the only one who 00:12:03.592 --> 00:12:11.037 - didn't give them full. But that was just by virtue of spreading it out. Everybody else gave them full. 00:12:11.037 --> 00:12:17.470 - I did not give them full. Oh, you did too. I see that. Yeah. I didn't give anybody full. 00:12:17.634 --> 00:12:25.336 - Well, no, I lied. I did give a few full, but I, because they were my highest, I did like, uh, I kind 00:12:25.336 --> 00:12:33.115 - of weighed down my numbers and did like this group gets 90%. This group gets 85% as my starting base. 00:12:33.115 --> 00:12:41.198 - But then the really big asks like who's your Hills tandem. Those had to be calculated separately. Anyway, 00:12:41.198 --> 00:12:47.070 - that was my explanation. So does anybody have any thoughts or feelings about 00:12:48.546 --> 00:12:54.218 - changing Hoosier Hills. I was just going to check though, and I don't know if we all want to do these. 00:12:54.218 --> 00:12:59.834 - It's like, you know, if we're not, if we're not giving people full amounts, I think we should verify, 00:12:59.834 --> 00:13:05.506 - you know, what they said they were, their funding priorities, right? So I think that that's maybe the, 00:13:05.506 --> 00:13:11.233 - the balancing to make sure that they can. Well, right. Cause if, cause if they ask for 40,000, you give 00:13:11.233 --> 00:13:12.830 - them 39, like, I don't know. 00:13:12.962 --> 00:13:19.686 - That I mean, that in their case, in their case, that probably works because of what because of what 00:13:19.686 --> 00:13:26.476 - they're asking for. I think for some other, the sort of like project one, two, three, and, you know, 00:13:26.476 --> 00:13:33.738 - like half on project three. Right. So, well, in the. Applications turning the new name for the application. 00:13:33.738 --> 00:13:40.528 - That's not listed right there. You'd have to go into their budget sheets. Yeah, that's not listed as 00:13:40.528 --> 00:13:42.142 - a standard part of the. 00:13:42.594 --> 00:13:49.630 - application anymore. I mean, maybe it's not worth pulling teeth about it in many ways as well because 00:13:49.630 --> 00:13:56.941 - they, I mean, I guess they can self-adjust, right? So if it ends up being that they spent $11,000 instead 00:13:56.941 --> 00:14:04.391 - of $12,000 because it didn't make sense to spend $12,000. Right. Well, unless anybody had specific feedback 00:14:04.391 --> 00:14:11.288 - in their allocations, like, look, I know you said you wanted this money for A, B, and C. I'm giving 00:14:11.288 --> 00:14:12.254 - you X amount. 00:14:12.546 --> 00:14:20.926 - because I think I'm prioritizing A. That's how I want you to put them into it. We can talk about that 00:14:20.926 --> 00:14:29.388 - until we get to any of those specific issues. But I don't think we have a lot of that this year. Yeah, 00:14:29.388 --> 00:14:37.686 - sorry. No, thank you. All right. Mother Hubbard's covered. Next, they requested $13,182. They scored 00:14:37.686 --> 00:14:41.630 - a 10.0. They got very close to full $12,769.07. 00:14:42.530 --> 00:14:50.799 - Any feedback on that from anybody? Any big feelings? No. All right. Great. Wheeler mission? Well, I 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:59.233 - guess my one feeling is that, like back to kind of the point, you know, we just kind of moved on from 00:14:59.233 --> 00:15:07.915 - the budget thing, but like they asked for such a specific number, 13,182. So it was kind of like. Right. 00:15:07.915 --> 00:15:09.982 - Why? Yeah. Why not just? 00:15:11.842 --> 00:15:18.705 - Cause I also wonder in terms of how we want to, do we want to create some sort of system for projects 00:15:18.705 --> 00:15:25.568 - that get like around the number versus ones, like all the ones that like a certain number of like the 00:15:25.568 --> 00:15:32.431 - highest ones, like we fully fund them or if it's a capital project where it's there depending more on 00:15:32.431 --> 00:15:39.294 - like full funding to may have to like buy the van, you know, like, yeah, it feels like $7,000. Right. 00:15:40.578 --> 00:15:47.740 - We could put an asterisk by ones like this and then revisit what happens in bleeding. I also think that 00:15:47.740 --> 00:15:54.763 - a lot of nonprofits, if it's like, you know, like $13,180 on the Harvard cover is going to be able to 00:15:54.763 --> 00:16:01.994 - figure out how to get that additional $182. I don't think that we should worry too much about this until 00:16:01.994 --> 00:16:06.814 - we get to the end. And then yeah, if anything extra that makes sense, 00:16:07.202 --> 00:16:14.408 - by looking at their project to round them back up to that. That'd be fine. I mean, I know that after 00:16:14.408 --> 00:16:21.899 - listening to T&M and how they can make payroll, that's a different situation, but an organization that's 00:16:21.899 --> 00:16:29.319 - been around for the Hoverstover, they can probably come up with the, well, when we round it down. Well, 00:16:29.319 --> 00:16:32.958 - and I feel like we're so close to their full past, 00:16:33.090 --> 00:16:41.465 - When we get further down to the lower priority ones, if we're not close to their full ask, and it is 00:16:41.465 --> 00:16:49.839 - one of these rounds, we're not going to round it up to that full number just because we want to make 00:16:49.839 --> 00:16:58.380 - it even. So at least I don't imagine we would. But we can like asterisk this for our list to come back 00:16:58.380 --> 00:17:02.526 - to. One additional point is that the summit hill, 00:17:04.130 --> 00:17:12.147 - said no to partial funding. The only one says looks like. So everybody said yes. So it's in those four. 00:17:12.147 --> 00:17:19.933 - So these people do that, right? Well, I can't come out of some other word. So wondering also because 00:17:19.933 --> 00:17:27.950 - we that that one is missing a few. So we're missing we're missing Andy Dave's and obviously yours then. 00:17:27.950 --> 00:17:32.190 - And we're missing an allocation amount from Catherine. 00:17:34.562 --> 00:17:42.618 - For what, Summit Hill? For Summit Hill. And then I'm assuming, if things are left blank, we assume they're 00:17:42.618 --> 00:17:50.147 - zeros. So, like, so, like, Sobri, Nessa, did you mean to zero them out, Eddie? They were low on how 00:17:50.147 --> 00:17:57.676 - I scored them. So, I think that they have a worthwhile project, but if I'm funding everything else, 00:17:57.676 --> 00:18:02.494 - they can't fund everybody, right? So, for Nessa, I did not fund 00:18:03.778 --> 00:18:09.493 - the co-authored living, and I'm happy to share that. If we can wait until we get that one, I did not 00:18:09.493 --> 00:18:15.435 - find hotels very cold, so. Yeah, we can talk about when we get to ones that any of us did fun, we should 00:18:15.435 --> 00:18:21.320 - talk about why. Yeah. And I'm just thinking, I just want to make sure we have them in the zeros because 00:18:21.320 --> 00:18:27.149 - it will change the calculation there, right? Oh, no, it doesn't actually change the calculation in the 00:18:27.149 --> 00:18:31.902 - zeros. Good. Oh, super. All right. So we have mother Hubbard's cupboard asterisked. 00:18:34.018 --> 00:18:41.977 - Wheeler Mission. Could I just say something? Yeah. No, I funded Summit Hill for $20,000. Great. Yeah. 00:18:41.977 --> 00:18:49.858 - If it didn't appear, I think some of the things didn't appear because I think Andy funded Sober Mesa 00:18:49.858 --> 00:18:57.816 - for recommended funding and it's blank. Okay, good. Some of these fields are blank for... I was going 00:18:57.816 --> 00:19:02.654 - to say, why don't you all take a moment, everybody check your 00:19:03.650 --> 00:19:11.109 - allocations. Andy, double check through your list. Make sure there's nothing blank that shouldn't be 00:19:11.109 --> 00:19:18.863 - blank. Oh, OK. So you're going to have to leave, because I got my allocations up on one computer screen. 00:19:18.863 --> 00:19:26.248 - You have to leave my so I can see on your document. OK, let me check mine, and then I'll go over to 00:19:26.248 --> 00:19:32.894 - yours and show you yours. Have sad. OK, OK. Send it to where it made the changes, please. 00:19:34.082 --> 00:19:45.068 - Yeah, I only didn't fund one so. That looks good handy. Any reason you would want to keep this originally 00:19:45.068 --> 00:19:55.639 - document as a original record? Is that safe someone? Yes, yeah, because we opened it as a Google Doc, 00:19:55.639 --> 00:20:02.686 - but it's saved as an Excel. OK, OK, OK, so ready Andy. So yeah, so. 00:20:02.882 --> 00:20:12.173 - It's, um, I did zero some out, but, but, okay. So it shows you zeroed summit Hill hotels for hope. No, 00:20:12.173 --> 00:20:21.284 - that's totally wrong. I gave hotels for up all kinds of money. Um, okay. Okay. So wait a minute. Um, 00:20:21.284 --> 00:20:31.838 - uh, so you're saying summit Hill hotels for hope. What else does it show them that I Bloomington cooperative living. 00:20:32.162 --> 00:20:42.352 - Okay, Billy McQuarrick of Living, I gave them $5,000. Okay, but then this suggested everything's wrong. 00:20:42.352 --> 00:20:52.249 - Like, how do you trust it? So, and then could, did we mess it up when we switched, when we organized 00:20:52.249 --> 00:20:55.678 - it? Shouldn't have, but might not. 00:20:57.218 --> 00:21:04.383 - So I think we have to, I mean, if you find more than two irregularities in the same person's thing, 00:21:04.383 --> 00:21:11.548 - then you have to assume that all of it's wrong. Like we can't proceed assuming that it's right. You 00:21:11.548 --> 00:21:18.857 - see what I'm saying? So I'm looking at my form now. I had Sober Mesa. I had 9,500 for them. Does this 00:21:18.857 --> 00:21:25.950 - have me zeroing out Planned Parenthood? I had 5,000, I believe, for Planned Parenthood. Let's see. 00:21:26.370 --> 00:21:36.570 - What was the big one that we just talked about? Hotels for Hope. I gave Hotels for Hope 29,000. Okay. 00:21:36.570 --> 00:21:46.670 - Yeah, so something. Should we reconstruct this form? I'm just, I'm like, why would it have been that 00:21:46.670 --> 00:21:55.870 - wrong? Right. I gave Summit Hill 21. Okay. Okay. So can you access the Excel version? Yeah. 00:21:56.642 --> 00:22:04.792 - I'm just trying to figure out the best way. Should we just work off the Excel version? We can go back 00:22:04.792 --> 00:22:12.941 - to the... Well, here's a suggestion, is that if we put it in alphabetical order, and then we all just 00:22:12.941 --> 00:22:21.091 - paste our data directly into the file from our own folders. Okay. And then we have access to Katniss. 00:22:21.091 --> 00:22:24.926 - We can pull hers up and paste it in. Yes. Okay. 00:22:25.026 --> 00:22:32.079 - Before we do that, let's know. Yeah, because I'm just saying I'm noticing that the original document. 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:39.064 - It's wrong. So we made yeah, it looks like I went back to like the original that you just opened and 00:22:39.064 --> 00:22:45.979 - it's like the Excel version is wrong. Yeah. Okay, so let's so yeah, so let's so let's start a clean 00:22:45.979 --> 00:22:52.894 - document. Well, we have we're already on this one so that we don't right and so so so sort this by. 00:22:53.058 --> 00:22:59.351 - I'm going to sort by organization name, right? All right. So are you doing that? Yeah, I'll do that. 00:22:59.351 --> 00:23:05.830 - Okay. Thank you. And then everybody, everybody should sort your individual spreadsheets by organization 00:23:05.830 --> 00:23:12.185 - name. Okay. If anybody's typing right now, stop typing just for Sam. Cause it won't let me sort while 00:23:12.185 --> 00:23:18.727 - you're typing. You will have your scores separately that you're going to copy them. That's not the Excel 00:23:18.727 --> 00:23:22.590 - sheet. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Now I'm on board. This gets confusing. 00:23:22.786 --> 00:23:34.315 - Yeah. Okay. I'm going to stop Sherry so that I can do mine without you guys having to get a headache 00:23:34.315 --> 00:23:45.729 - looking at mine. Does that make sense, everybody? It does. We're all on the same page. Are we just? 00:23:45.729 --> 00:23:52.350 - Oh, nevermind. It doesn't matter. So some vertical merge. 00:23:54.530 --> 00:24:11.582 - Students. All of a sudden I'm really hungry. 00:24:24.098 --> 00:24:33.572 - Once you sorted it, we're just taking what columns, just the recommendation and amount. Is that right? 00:24:33.572 --> 00:24:42.863 - Are we doing the scores? Score, recommendation, amount. Score, recommendation, amount. Is it in that 00:24:42.863 --> 00:24:46.174 - order? Yes, they are in that order. 00:25:02.018 --> 00:25:10.244 - So if you paste values only in the first like your top leftmost one and you have copied all of your 00:25:10.244 --> 00:25:18.469 - columns and you just say paste special values only that should put all of the data in there without 00:25:18.469 --> 00:25:26.942 - messing anything up. Okay so yeah because you want to right click on that then when you go to paste it 00:25:30.818 --> 00:25:59.902 - I am glad to learn this hard way last night when I was working. Andy, you doing okay with getting yours all set? 00:26:00.258 --> 00:26:08.272 - No, I you're technologically out of my league here completely. I don't know how to, you know, 00:26:08.272 --> 00:26:16.798 - trust me to. Oh, yeah. Mine was unusual because member Courtney, you said the you were the only one 00:26:16.798 --> 00:26:25.836 - who had access to mine or something the way you yours. I copied and pasted it. OK. Yeah. OK. I can deploy 00:26:25.836 --> 00:26:29.246 - it because I'll have access if he does. 00:26:29.602 --> 00:26:52.926 - Okay. I mean, you can, you can access that ever since then. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Spot check mine. We 00:26:52.926 --> 00:26:58.238 - think of opposite way. 00:26:59.394 --> 00:27:02.846 - That's the way. 00:27:30.946 --> 00:27:59.934 - Anyone speak to this vertical merge? 00:28:01.154 --> 00:28:14.901 - You see up to look happens to you. Oh, thank you. They open this which is the ready to be captured because 00:28:14.901 --> 00:28:17.342 - the picture. Okay. 00:28:31.298 --> 00:28:37.990 - Thank you. Andy, I can do yours. Oh, thanks. Thanks. Here, are you able to get into this? I think. Oh, 00:28:37.990 --> 00:28:44.616 - no, no, no. No, no, no. What's in the drive is not right. I see. OK, who has? I have it. Have it, OK. 00:28:44.616 --> 00:28:51.243 - Yeah. The trick is you have to hide the top column, because it won't let you do vertical integration. 00:28:51.243 --> 00:28:57.740 - Yes, that was my problem. So hide the columns one through three. Oh, one through three. And then so 00:28:57.740 --> 00:29:01.118 - the top one, so the top one says organization. Yes. 00:29:01.570 --> 00:29:10.334 - Can I just delete the rows? You may not want to do that, because you need to open them. And then now 00:29:10.334 --> 00:29:19.012 - you should be able to sort by. And then at the bottom, it would have sorted the total column at the 00:29:19.012 --> 00:29:25.086 - bottom. So it's a total junta. Oh. So it's going to keep going. Yeah. 00:29:31.522 --> 00:29:45.539 - Yeah. And the one. Okay. Yeah. So, uh. Okay. This can't be right because um like I I scored so I gave 00:29:45.539 --> 00:29:59.556 - him 1010. It's not showing up but they're all the totals are all down. So, that's impossible. I mean, 00:29:59.556 --> 00:30:01.342 - so, somehow, 00:30:05.442 --> 00:30:15.999 - So many sewers are replicating in everyone's. Yes. That's why I sent the message saying everybody needed 00:30:15.999 --> 00:30:26.053 - to make a copy of their own. That shouldn't work that way. What's that mean? What is going on here? 00:30:26.053 --> 00:30:35.102 - Let me just come here. The reason why this isn't a real number. That's not a real number. 00:30:35.298 --> 00:30:44.897 - This should say equals that. That's your number, right? So check against that. Well, that's strange 00:30:44.897 --> 00:30:54.975 - that I'm still, you know, just, right? Yeah, just double check, because, oh, and, oh, and then if you're 00:30:54.975 --> 00:31:04.958 - like me, that problem, and we both hit those columns instead of copying them, instead of deleting them. 00:31:06.178 --> 00:31:22.221 - Didn't paste. Yeah, first I. Deleted it. But then OK, I see what I need to do. And then we can hopefully 00:31:22.221 --> 00:31:33.374 - freeze. Organization brow. He's one row perfect. If you freeze real one, 00:31:33.538 --> 00:31:48.011 - then when you go to sort of A through Z, it doesn't pull that into it. And then we still just need to 00:31:48.011 --> 00:32:02.910 - know if this is at the bottom. Does it not work for you? It worked. Mine worked. Mine definitely worked. 00:32:03.010 --> 00:32:21.574 - mine did not work. They're all scrambled for instance. I don't know what happened. Where was your sheet 00:32:21.574 --> 00:32:30.142 - again? I wonder if it gets scrambled there too. 00:32:30.434 --> 00:32:37.677 - Like the one does, does he turn a little bit here. This was good enough that that wasn't. Okay, that's 00:32:37.677 --> 00:32:44.709 - what happened. Okay. So yeah, mine's right too. I wonder if this is the last couple that got turned 00:32:44.709 --> 00:32:51.882 - in. You know, because we gave him the phone for me. I'm not so clear. Well, let's check it. We killed 00:32:51.882 --> 00:32:56.382 - him as a test case. Yeah. So the mess was wrong before as well. 00:32:58.946 --> 00:33:06.877 - Yeah, I think that's correct. I look right now? Yeah, yeah. OK. Yeah, so that's what we did wrong. OK. 00:33:06.877 --> 00:33:14.731 - So it's sorted, but it didn't. And I see, actually, exactly why you still don't have filters on them. 00:33:14.731 --> 00:33:22.431 - So I don't know. OK. Normally, I love Google Docs, but tonight, you've only a lot of value when you 00:33:22.431 --> 00:33:26.974 - do them, don't you? I do, yeah. What about August's cabin? 00:33:29.922 --> 00:33:58.398 - Okay, let's, let's test it. Yeah, let's do this. 00:34:00.610 --> 00:34:19.155 - Could I just leave? He can't take me with him. Yeah, versus mine though. I mean, versus the default 00:34:19.155 --> 00:34:28.798 - of mine. I didn't just go. It's not my fault. Okay. 00:34:30.658 --> 00:34:46.074 - So Andy? Yeah? I don't see any scores in your rubric. I just want to make sure that's accurate. No, 00:34:46.074 --> 00:34:57.790 - that's not accurate. There should be some. Now, there are a few that I just 00:34:58.690 --> 00:35:08.174 - became sort of frustrated with and didn't score, but I left an amount for everyone. No, I see amounts. 00:35:08.174 --> 00:35:17.657 - Yeah, but but a few only if there's probably maybe 20% or so, or maybe a quarter of them will not have 00:35:17.657 --> 00:35:27.049 - a rubric point ranking, but but 75% of it should have a majority of it should have. I'm looking at it 00:35:27.049 --> 00:35:28.062 - right now. 00:35:28.738 --> 00:35:45.634 - Let me see. You have numbers in yours? Oh, I see. Maybe a bunch of them I didn't total. I didn't. No, 00:35:45.634 --> 00:35:57.726 - that's fine. As long as you have amounts, I just wanted to verify. Yeah. 00:35:58.114 --> 00:36:06.160 - Yeah. Look at column P, like I have it all blank from what I'm looking at. Is that? We have an A to 00:36:06.160 --> 00:36:14.207 - column. Column P? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Courtney, column P is blank. But- Okay. Thank you very much. 00:36:14.207 --> 00:36:22.414 - But columns I, J, K, L, M, they have numbers in most of them. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not- Okay. Yeah. 00:36:22.414 --> 00:36:27.966 - We don't need that for the final rubric that we're putting together. 00:36:28.226 --> 00:36:36.490 - Okay. I see. Are you able to access the group documents now that we just opened up the Jack Hopkins 00:36:36.490 --> 00:36:44.920 - grant recommendation compilation? You had it up a minute ago, right? Yes. All right. I'm going to put 00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:53.598 - it back up. I want you to take a look and make sure your column looks right for me while I handle. Okay. 00:36:53.858 --> 00:37:02.682 - And yours is? So Catherine's is not at all correct. No, Catherine's is mine. And I didn't ask Catherine's 00:37:02.682 --> 00:37:11.506 - at all. I accessed my rubric. My camera shared with me. So what Catherine sent was yours? I think somehow 00:37:11.506 --> 00:37:19.831 - Catherine's rubric was replaced by mine. Where did you pull Catherine's from? Was it from the email 00:37:19.831 --> 00:37:21.662 - she sent? Yeah. Yeah. 00:37:21.826 --> 00:37:29.044 - And I'm pulling it from the individual graded version. And if you click on hers, if you go to- Okay, 00:37:29.044 --> 00:37:36.405 - no, no, no. The individual graded version, we're gonna be wrong. Yeah, pull it from the email she just 00:37:36.405 --> 00:37:44.052 - sent. Catherine, or Cameron said she did. Yeah, I think Cameron, I think it all goes to the same location. 00:37:44.052 --> 00:37:50.270 - Andy, is that looking okay for what you see so far? Is there a magical way that I can, 00:37:50.370 --> 00:37:58.293 - make mine alphabetical? This is yours. It is alphabetical. No, mine's not. Because Amethyst House is 00:37:58.293 --> 00:38:06.374 - not at the top. At the top of mine is... Oh, it is. It is. I made yours alphabetical when I copied it. 00:38:06.374 --> 00:38:14.375 - Oh, OK. OK. I remember it wasn't that way originally. So it wasn't. I just did it now so I could copy 00:38:14.375 --> 00:38:19.710 - these directly into the new document. Yeah, it looks right now. OK. 00:38:20.418 --> 00:38:27.794 - We can do a spot check. For Boys and Girls, for example. Let me see. Boys and Girls. We can do a spot 00:38:27.794 --> 00:38:35.387 - check. Take a look at, you said Summit Hill, you knew you gave them $21,000. That's correct. Okay, wait. 00:38:35.387 --> 00:38:42.040 - Let me look back at Boys and Girls Club. I have 14 recommended. Yeah. Yeah. 14. Yeah. Okay. 00:38:42.040 --> 00:38:49.054 - And then 3300. And then, yeah. Yeah. That's looking 10, 5, 15. Yeah. Yeah. That looks right now. 00:38:49.282 --> 00:38:58.645 - Yeah. Awesome. Okay. Thank you. Good work. Thank you. Here's this funky where it's like, of course I'm 00:38:58.645 --> 00:39:07.826 - going to lane is funky. Yeah. And you scroll to the bottom. Oh, I know what I did. I'm going to have 00:39:07.826 --> 00:39:17.189 - to fix it because I just fix it. Yeah. I just have to take those two out. You can just delete them and 00:39:17.189 --> 00:39:18.462 - move up. Yes. 00:39:19.042 --> 00:39:28.114 - Thank you. But we don't have any scores. And these numbers are in his amount recommendations are in. 00:39:28.114 --> 00:39:37.635 - Yeah, sorry. I didn't know that. Yeah, I just got frustrated with those calculating the totals of numbers 00:39:37.635 --> 00:39:47.067 - just for the overall rubric ranking or rubric number. So I'm sorry. I apologize for that. OK, no, that's 00:39:47.067 --> 00:39:48.414 - it was a mess. 00:39:48.546 --> 00:39:58.608 - No, don't worry. We're straightening it out. It's all good. So do we have a way of contacting Catherine 00:39:58.608 --> 00:40:08.477 - to ask her if she has a copy of her? I can text her. I was just going to say I can send her an email, 00:40:08.477 --> 00:40:16.798 - but it might be faster to text. There's maybe what she can do is go into her document 00:40:17.826 --> 00:40:32.092 - If what she's pulling up is showing what Eddie had, maybe all she needs to do is like kind of undo a 00:40:32.092 --> 00:40:46.782 - few steps and I pull her stuff back up. We've got to worry. While I'm doing that, can you all go in and 00:40:47.490 --> 00:41:14.910 - Where you have zeros, particularly, and camera. Can you actually put the zeros? So. 00:41:15.138 --> 00:41:24.050 - Um, Evan sent us a document of the, of the compiled, um, today at five 11. That seems to be that has 00:41:24.050 --> 00:41:33.051 - captured stuff there. This email here. Okay. And because it's he, he sent it as an attachment and not 00:41:33.051 --> 00:41:42.139 - as a link to the Google drive. So, um, I'm going to refer that to everyone here. And, um, that's where 00:41:42.139 --> 00:41:43.198 - we started. 00:41:43.298 --> 00:41:49.693 - That's where we started. So this document is right in Catherine's stuff. But how do you know it's right? 00:41:49.693 --> 00:41:55.905 - I mean, whatever was on there. Yeah, that's true. Whatever was on there was, who knows where that was 00:41:55.905 --> 00:42:02.299 - coming from. But yeah, but the Google Drive is incorrect. It's definitely incorrect. You're right. Yeah, 00:42:02.299 --> 00:42:08.694 - Catherine's still matches yours in this. In the Google Drive? In the Google Doc that was attached. Yeah. 00:42:08.694 --> 00:42:09.790 - Oh, you're right. 00:42:10.754 --> 00:42:20.359 - Wait, are we sure it actually matches, or was she working off of your rubric and just kept the comment? 00:42:20.359 --> 00:42:30.056 - So the numbers actually match? The numbers say 489200. Okay. So I'm looking at it, and here's Catherine, 00:42:30.056 --> 00:42:40.030 - and I rounded all my stuff, and Catherine did. So Catherine recommended that, so let's go down some though. 00:42:40.226 --> 00:42:47.088 - which I can't, on the non. She gave someone else one grand. So this- And where are you looking? On Evan's 00:42:47.088 --> 00:42:53.886 - document? Evan's document that he sent us in an attachment. Right, but that- But let that happen. Sorry. 00:43:05.506 --> 00:43:11.802 - just like, I don't, I don't know how you can trust that document. If we found it's treated in multiple 00:43:11.802 --> 00:43:18.099 - errors in it. So this is like without problems. I think Evan just accidentally copied and pasted. It's 00:43:18.099 --> 00:43:24.273 - like Katherine Eddie's, Andy's and Dave's own batch. Yeah. So exactly. Yeah. So I'm here. So I think 00:43:24.273 --> 00:43:30.814 - he just accidentally copied and pasted their walk because do you see, they think you were looking at mine. 00:43:31.106 --> 00:43:37.131 - Well, if they were coming from the drive, that Google drive that they were all in, they were all gonna 00:43:37.131 --> 00:43:43.097 - be messed up. Cause that's why I went in there over the weekend and I saw everybody had like the same 00:43:43.097 --> 00:43:48.947 - exact. I didn't even know we had our own. Well, that's how I knew. Cause I pulled mine up. I hadn't 00:43:48.947 --> 00:43:54.913 - even done my rubric yet and it was all filled out and it was not at all what I would have worn in any 00:43:54.913 --> 00:43:59.710 - way. I was like, oh, this is somebody else's work. It's saved across all of them. 00:43:59.810 --> 00:44:14.043 - people didn't have their own individual links in there. So I think that is where this was going wrong. 00:44:14.043 --> 00:44:22.334 - You can get updated. It did, okay. We're almost there guys. 00:44:56.674 --> 00:45:04.128 - It's weird that it's just like, so it just stopped dating. Because remember I showed it to you, and 00:45:04.128 --> 00:45:12.029 - I showed that, that's when I kicked my ass. And now I'm reading back, now I can say I did all two visits. 00:45:12.029 --> 00:45:19.557 - But you know, we're looking at five-year-old school. Oh, okay, I was about to say you don't. I mean, 00:45:19.557 --> 00:45:23.806 - he says five-year-old, and I'm five. It's not effective. 00:45:24.322 --> 00:45:31.546 - But I'm also just like not being held on his head. She had asked me, like, did I not think of opportunities? 00:45:31.546 --> 00:45:38.240 - She said they had already reached out to you and I was like, well, that's cool stuff. And she's been 00:45:38.240 --> 00:45:44.868 - keeping it up to you. Here's a thought. So we got everybody else's right now? He has a twin sister. 00:45:44.868 --> 00:45:51.562 - Is everybody else just in there correctly? I think so. Because I'm thinking we could, for now, until 00:45:51.562 --> 00:45:54.014 - Katherine responds, we can basically 00:45:54.178 --> 00:46:00.692 - Zero goes out for the moment. We've alerted her to the thing. Just a suggestion, we could zero it out. 00:46:00.692 --> 00:46:07.206 - She could, if she sends ours, we can go through the conversations that we were going through, and then 00:46:07.206 --> 00:46:13.594 - we can basically validate and see if her answers wildly throw off any of our numbers. That's a great 00:46:13.594 --> 00:46:19.538 - idea. Because it may well be that her numbers end up coinciding with ours. Exactly. Does that 00:46:19.538 --> 00:46:21.246 - seem reasonable, everyone? 00:46:22.338 --> 00:46:29.336 - Yes. So I'm going to clear Catherine's. OK, thank you. And then? And then I'm going to go through a 00:46:29.336 --> 00:46:36.474 - couple of these average allocations need to be fixed, because they don't have the zeros in them. They 00:46:36.474 --> 00:46:43.752 - just have blanks. So Eddie, did you? Who did that? I'm just doing that. I'll save you. No, you're good. 00:46:43.752 --> 00:46:50.820 - You're good. You gave courage to change silver living zero. Yes. OK. Because they explored the room. 00:46:50.820 --> 00:46:51.870 - Just checking. 00:46:53.218 --> 00:47:01.874 - It might be ideal to, once Catherine's is zeroed out to maybe make a original copy, save that version 00:47:01.874 --> 00:47:10.530 - until you get Catherine's, just in case you get records for pluses. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. I think we 00:47:10.530 --> 00:47:19.101 - have to completely remove it when she... I think so, sorry. For this, and then until she has a copy, 00:47:19.101 --> 00:47:20.798 - adding her back in. 00:47:21.154 --> 00:47:27.270 - So we can just duplicate the whole bottom sheet, is that what you're saying? And then we can pull her 00:47:27.270 --> 00:47:33.266 - out of one and then keep, and then. As long as there's one, you won't be seeing your original data, 00:47:33.266 --> 00:47:39.681 - if you will, like the record of copyright. Copy of record. No missing. I was just gonna say, yeah, another 00:47:39.681 --> 00:47:45.857 - tab in the. Yeah. Perfect. And then. Missing Katherine. And then I'm gonna delete Katherine from this. 00:47:45.857 --> 00:47:50.174 - Okay, so right now we're gonna work off the missing Katherine tab. Yes. 00:47:50.274 --> 00:47:58.452 - But let me fix this. Well, yeah, that has to be divided by six, but also... Okay, actually, and I can 00:47:58.452 --> 00:48:06.951 - keep the plus those cells, right? You're removing our cells, or? Yeah, but now look at the coffin. Right, 00:48:06.951 --> 00:48:15.049 - because you removed your cells. Okay, what... That's what, yeah, unremove your cells. Leave the cell 00:48:15.049 --> 00:48:17.374 - in there for a second. Okay. 00:48:19.746 --> 00:48:28.089 - Okay, and what cell is that? That's N4. Is that right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no. Oh, no, no. Since there 00:48:28.089 --> 00:48:36.349 - are three. Also, it's averaging out EM zeros for every... I'll fix that. ...happened to... I always 00:48:36.349 --> 00:48:44.609 - like to ask, I mean... And he said he... So that looks... Yeah, it's a calendar. Yeah, I told them. 00:48:44.609 --> 00:48:48.574 - He says my name. Yeah, I did not. We asked him. 00:48:48.930 --> 00:49:10.074 - So you were nice in terms of how she wanted a way to do that. That was not how I really thought of that. 00:49:10.074 --> 00:49:17.726 - I don't even know how to think of it. 00:49:18.146 --> 00:49:46.238 - Maybe the scores don't matter so much. The average score matters more. Yeah. 00:49:46.338 --> 00:49:52.772 - And the range just shows how much we are in disagreement. But all my scores are the minimum ones. I 00:49:52.772 --> 00:49:59.399 - was adding them. So I actually think that this data doesn't matter as much as we think. So I think the 00:49:59.399 --> 00:50:05.576 - average score is the most important point. And let's just do this in the simplest way possible. 00:50:05.576 --> 00:50:12.204 - But also, Andy doesn't have scores. And also, your scores are there. If your scores are all not on the 00:50:12.204 --> 00:50:15.678 - same scale. None of our scores are on the same scale. 00:50:16.994 --> 00:50:24.842 - Yeah, I was, I'm confused about all of your scales because clearly mine is right. No, but I don't think, 00:50:24.842 --> 00:50:32.390 - I don't think it matters too much because, because we have, I mean, okay, two thoughts, two thoughts 00:50:32.390 --> 00:50:40.014 - here. One is that looking back at the averages, we're back in the same territory. We're actually now, 00:50:40.014 --> 00:50:45.470 - we spent more money if we do with, by removing, by removing Catherine's. 00:50:45.794 --> 00:50:53.286 - So that puts us at 497 if you average out all of the recommended allocations. Now that we've corrected 00:50:53.286 --> 00:50:59.906 - that for things that we're missing. Okay, so I think all that really matters, yeah, is the 00:50:59.906 --> 00:51:07.398 - average allocations. Like, we can forget about the scores. Really, that's not going to impact. We know 00:51:07.398 --> 00:51:08.926 - what we scored then. 00:51:09.058 --> 00:51:14.599 - Right. And as we're going through each one, we have our argument to make for or against. I mean, yeah, 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:20.410 - let me, or we can just use the average scores, I guess. Right. Well, just because you were saying everybody 00:51:20.410 --> 00:51:25.897 - did it, I've got a different. Yeah. I mean, that was my thinking, but. Scale a bit. Yeah. And I don't 00:51:25.897 --> 00:51:31.546 - know why some of these are, and then we, some have some of them, some of us don't have scores. So. Yeah. 00:51:31.546 --> 00:51:36.926 - Cause Andy didn't, his scores for some reason aren't in the sheet. I'm seeing them. So she, I think 00:51:36.926 --> 00:51:38.110 - she worked out. Okay. 00:51:40.610 --> 00:51:50.294 - Oh, she is. Did she just send the? Yeah, she's. She wants to work. Oh, she said she'll redo it tonight. 00:51:50.294 --> 00:52:00.351 - It's OK. It's OK. Please do not. Monday, right? I'm just going to sit in. It is the most Monday of Mondays. 00:52:00.351 --> 00:52:06.590 - OK. Well. All right. And we can actually we can do the validation. 00:52:06.946 --> 00:52:14.603 - later. Okay, sorry. I think we're back on track, everyone. Okay. All right. So we're just going to go 00:52:14.603 --> 00:52:22.336 - through alphabetically with these, right? Rather than trying to do the high score, low, whatnot. Thank 00:52:22.336 --> 00:52:29.918 - you for your patience, everyone, and thank you for your help. Well, we caught that. Yes, absolutely. 00:52:29.918 --> 00:52:35.774 - Okay. So, but we're still, if we scroll down to the bottom, we're still under 00:52:37.698 --> 00:52:44.211 - It didn't change our total summation being under what we're allotted to be able to award. And that's 00:52:44.211 --> 00:52:51.110 - huge. We could just give the money and run and be like, all right, we did our work. Everybody's allocated. 00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:57.558 - But I think we should go through each one pretty quickly. It's not going to take a lot of time. And 00:52:57.558 --> 00:53:02.846 - make our arguments for or against any increases or decreases if we feel strongly. 00:53:03.618 --> 00:53:16.791 - So Amethyst House requested $21,700. We are allocating $15,532.86. I'm going to pull my sheet up on 00:53:16.791 --> 00:53:24.958 - the phones. $18,121. What? Can you refresh your screen? Yeah. 00:53:33.698 --> 00:53:40.502 - I'm on the missing Catherine tab. Oh, go to the other one. We're just doing the other one. The other 00:53:40.502 --> 00:53:47.576 - one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I guess they're technically both missing Catherine. Yeah. Sorry. No, that's okay. 00:53:47.576 --> 00:53:54.649 - So we're, we're working off this one. This is the correct double check the math there just to make sure. 00:53:54.649 --> 00:53:59.230 - So this is everybody's divided by six is what is what it should be. 00:54:00.802 --> 00:54:07.100 - Can you double click on that? Yeah, that's everybody divided by six. Yeah, this is everybody divided 00:54:07.100 --> 00:54:13.149 - by six. Okay. Should we get rid of the other sheet to avoid confusion? Is that the one that was, 00:54:13.149 --> 00:54:19.386 - or is that? We don't want to. I think this thing, Catherine, can be the record of in case there's a 00:54:19.386 --> 00:54:25.684 - records request, you have that original. Well, we kept her on this one. We just fixed the equations. 00:54:25.684 --> 00:54:30.174 - I feel like keeping her where we can plug in her stuff later and see if 00:54:30.978 --> 00:54:37.856 - Where the records for a question that will be fine. Where it still has the formulas for divided by seven. 00:54:37.856 --> 00:54:44.669 - Okay, got it. Does that make sense to you? Yeah. No, sorry. Oh, okay. So that's what we divide by seven. 00:54:44.669 --> 00:54:51.482 - That's where we'll plug her stuff in. Yeah. And then this one just is divided by six. So it's accounting 00:54:51.482 --> 00:54:58.814 - for their being one less. Okay. And the formulas. All right. That's super. All right. Sorry. I was playing mine. 00:54:58.978 --> 00:55:08.741 - up on my phone so I can see as we're talking through. So Amethyst House, 21,700. We've got a little 00:55:08.741 --> 00:55:18.602 - over 18,000. Any thoughts or feelings there? Andy, you still with us? Yeah, yeah, I got it. So yeah. 00:55:18.602 --> 00:55:27.486 - Everybody good with the 18,000? Any thoughts about the Amethyst House request or feelings? 00:55:29.570 --> 00:55:41.813 - Okay, so the Avalon Community Land Trust, they requested 20,800. We have them in at $13,667. I'm gonna 00:55:41.813 --> 00:55:53.817 - compare into what I put. We can do that if they want. Any thoughts or feelings on Avalon? All right, 00:55:53.817 --> 00:55:56.670 - Beacon requested 7,000. 00:55:57.250 --> 00:56:07.840 - 377. We gave them just over 7,000. Going once, going twice. All right. We're going to move down to Big 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:18.532 - Brothers, Big Sisters of South Central Indiana. They requested 25,000. We have averaged 14,066. Anybody 00:56:18.532 --> 00:56:21.822 - want to talk about that at all? 00:56:25.794 --> 00:56:32.872 - I mean, I... You didn't want to give them any money? Yeah, they just didn't make it. But I gave full 00:56:32.872 --> 00:56:40.159 - funding as long as I could get full funding down the road. So that's why they didn't get any. They just 00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:47.237 - were past my threshold. Okay. So you're okay with giving them money? You didn't rate them a priority 00:56:47.237 --> 00:56:54.385 - at all? It doesn't feel like an emergency service to me. I feel like we have other needs that I would 00:56:54.385 --> 00:56:55.646 - want to put money 00:56:55.810 --> 00:57:02.787 - towards versus big brothers, big sisters. It doesn't feel like an emergency need to me. We want to put 00:57:02.787 --> 00:57:09.629 - an asterisk here and come back. Well, for security, unless they have a security. We're thinking Boys 00:57:09.629 --> 00:57:16.404 - and Girls Club. This is mentoring. The Boys and Girls Club is security, the building. I just wanted 00:57:16.404 --> 00:57:23.584 - them to expand. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I mean, I think it indirectly, it's not an emergency 00:57:23.584 --> 00:57:25.278 - service, but indirectly, 00:57:26.050 --> 00:57:34.881 - prevents emergencies by supporting children, supporting folks. So I'm fine with the allocation. I wanted 00:57:34.881 --> 00:57:43.459 - to give them more. I'm fine revisiting after we hit some other ones too. It is a different philosophy 00:57:43.459 --> 00:57:52.038 - though, isn't it? I mean, Cameron's philosophy is one that says, look, you fully fund very high ones. 00:57:52.038 --> 00:57:55.486 - I mean, more closely tied to the rubric. 00:57:56.226 --> 00:58:04.399 - versus if we average out, I think essentially watered down the significance of the rubric, right? Because 00:58:04.399 --> 00:58:12.186 - at the end of the day, we're just, I mean, we have some folks who are medium getting more money than 00:58:12.186 --> 00:58:20.128 - people that are on average very high. Yeah, and I think, I mean, that's where the subjectivity of some 00:58:20.128 --> 00:58:26.142 - of the rubric comes in. You know, cause I have big brothers ranked as medium. 00:58:26.946 --> 00:58:33.383 - And yeah, they were just medium for me too. Okay. It was medium. It was like the lower. But then I allocated 00:58:33.383 --> 00:58:39.467 - money to medium people. Like I only didn't allocate money to one and I only had one low, but like, but 00:58:39.467 --> 00:58:45.372 - I'm just saying like it's a, it is a different, it's a different philosophy that I think we have to 00:58:45.372 --> 00:58:51.337 - contend with, which, you know, like whether, whether the way that we want to approach this is saying 00:58:51.337 --> 00:58:56.830 - that, you know, if across the board, you're very high, you know, should you not get, I mean, 00:58:57.218 --> 00:59:04.274 - Do you not start with the perspective of everybody who's very high gets full funding? That's what I 00:59:04.274 --> 00:59:11.541 - did. That's what I did. I funded everyone very high, full funding. And then medium, I think I did 80%, 00:59:11.541 --> 00:59:18.597 - which for Big Brother. Which is arbitrary, right? But like. Well, I just, but I did 80% for all the 00:59:18.597 --> 00:59:26.076 - mediums. Yeah. And then I did medium, well, like 60% or whatever plus the next category, medium, whatever 00:59:26.076 --> 00:59:27.134 - or so. But no. 00:59:27.458 --> 00:59:35.084 - Yeah, I get the competing philosophies. Because I mean, but then on the other hand, on the other hand, 00:59:35.084 --> 00:59:42.487 - I'm like, okay, so then to Courtney's point about the subjectivity, you know, that was an arbitrary 00:59:42.487 --> 00:59:49.965 - decision to go to 80, right? And I might just have the same philosophy and stuck at 90. The point is 00:59:49.965 --> 00:59:56.702 - that then if we, in either case, we might then want to average out our suggestions, right? 00:59:57.922 --> 01:00:04.597 - I took a similar approach. I did not start with the highest ones getting full funding. I started at, 01:00:04.597 --> 01:00:11.338 - I don't remember if it was 90 or 95%. You started with the assumption that you weren't going to fully 01:00:11.338 --> 01:00:18.014 - fund anyone? Yeah, because I was like, I can't give everybody. Yeah, I just didn't think I'd be able 01:00:18.014 --> 01:00:24.094 - to fund everyone and keep some at full funding, especially anybody that requested, I think, 01:00:24.610 --> 01:00:31.665 - 25,000 or more. I was like, I'm going to have to set those aside for consideration at the end. No matter 01:00:31.665 --> 01:00:38.585 - how badly I want to fully fund them, I might not be able to give a full 50 or 40,000. But then doesn't 01:00:38.585 --> 01:00:45.304 - that mean, so somebody is watching this meeting and the way that we deliberate and goes, well, next 01:00:45.304 --> 01:00:47.454 - time I'm applying for $100,000, 01:00:47.778 --> 01:00:55.199 - for emergency services because I'll know they'll find me at 80%. You don't know that yet. You run the 01:00:55.199 --> 01:01:02.765 - risk. Look what happened last year with the horse farm when they requested $200,000 and they don't need 01:01:02.765 --> 01:01:10.186 - to buy anything. But that was on the narrative. We did not think it was that. I'm just saying some of 01:01:10.186 --> 01:01:16.734 - these folks, what keeps... Beacon could have asked for $30,000 and they asked for $7,000. 01:01:16.834 --> 01:01:27.401 - And so do we weigh the ass, like does that, if it's high, very highly ranked and a low amount of money, 01:01:27.401 --> 01:01:37.766 - it feels, I'm just trying to say like, and maybe I'm just thinking out loud that I'm wrong, but is it 01:01:37.766 --> 01:01:42.846 - wrong for us to treat that the same as large ass, 01:01:44.002 --> 01:01:50.424 - soon saying like you end up giving you end up giving you know 50,000 to something that's high beacons 01:01:50.424 --> 01:01:56.783 - very high and we end up giving them, you know, 90% of their do you see what I'm saying. I don't know 01:01:56.783 --> 01:02:03.079 - if I hear what you're saying. But I mean, I was one also who suggested like let's just average come 01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:05.534 - out and start from there. But I'm just 01:02:05.730 --> 01:02:10.964 - you know, the more that I think about it, I'm just like, I just want to make sure that we all feel like 01:02:10.964 --> 01:02:16.097 - this is actually representing our work. I mean, the thing that I felt is like, I did a search through 01:02:16.097 --> 01:02:21.331 - like the bridge funding, loss of federal funding, all of the things like the emergency elements of like 01:02:21.331 --> 01:02:26.363 - the applications this year looks different than it has in past years. So for me, that's why it felt 01:02:26.363 --> 01:02:31.597 - very important to, for the very high applications that were super oriented about filling a need to like 01:02:31.597 --> 01:02:35.422 - fully fund those before like looking into the things that feel less urgent. 01:02:35.522 --> 01:02:41.238 - because like, like to your point, I'd be like, big brothers, big sisters, like, yeah, like long in terms 01:02:41.238 --> 01:02:46.736 - of lasting impact, like that is kind of like a preventative measure, but also then we have these big 01:02:46.736 --> 01:02:52.397 - asks being requested because like Kendricks County is losing their VOCA funding. And so, and they asked 01:02:52.397 --> 01:02:57.840 - for a lot of money and so that that feels like a war. Yeah. And that played into, you know, some of 01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:03.501 - my funding decisions, but I will also, you know, to, he starts averaging and also deliberating. I mean, 01:03:03.501 --> 01:03:04.318 - this is where, 01:03:04.514 --> 01:03:14.004 - you can kind of leave in the middle because this is an imperfect rubric with some other other factors. 01:03:14.004 --> 01:03:23.494 - And especially a perfect rubric. So I think that us going through each one and in some of us accepting 01:03:23.494 --> 01:03:32.892 - averages as opposed to how I would like funded big bucks to make money and I'm okay with 14-6, right? 01:03:32.892 --> 01:03:34.366 - So I think that 01:03:34.498 --> 01:03:41.634 - This is helping and it mitigates some of the differences in every once in a while. This is why we have 01:03:41.634 --> 01:03:48.840 - the human-garden purpose. It is an imperfect system, but us discussing this is very helpful. I'm happy. 01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:55.976 - I funded them fully, but I'm happy with the number of the average. Okay. And you know, we all also all 01:03:55.976 --> 01:04:02.142 - look at this in a different way. So it's like, when tandem came in and spoke, it hit me. 01:04:02.626 --> 01:04:08.670 - in a different way because I've worked with all these nonprofits and I've seen, I don't work with everyone 01:04:08.670 --> 01:04:14.544 - on this list. So it's, I mean, we're all coming from different lenses, even if we're all using a brick, 01:04:14.544 --> 01:04:20.306 - it's a factor. We're going to bring our own views into it. My bias is that I was that big and I don't 01:04:20.306 --> 01:04:26.067 - like big brothers, big sisters, so I have to check that as well. It's very true. Social wise, there's 01:04:26.067 --> 01:04:31.038 - seven of us, right? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I have my own biases that I know of. 01:04:31.778 --> 01:04:37.897 - I'm working really hard to fight against, you know? But that's what my roommate spoke for them this 01:04:37.897 --> 01:04:44.076 - time, which I was proud of myself for. But I didn't interrupt you, Courtney, sorry. No, you're good. 01:04:44.076 --> 01:04:50.378 - You're good. Yeah, no, I mean, I have one I'm going to make a strong argument about when we get to it, 01:04:50.378 --> 01:04:56.619 - because it was one that I felt very strongly about when we get there. Me too. So, good. All right. So 01:04:56.619 --> 01:05:01.086 - are we going to asterisk? Was this the one that, or are we not going to? 01:05:05.410 --> 01:05:14.138 - I feel like I'm the only deserter and I'm conceding. Would you reduce it to zero because you didn't 01:05:14.138 --> 01:05:23.302 - give them anything? Or would you, you know, adhering to us, would you reduce it, you know, by more than, 01:05:23.302 --> 01:05:32.117 - what did they ask? 20? Or 20? 25? 20. And a couple gave us, you gave them 20, you gave them zero, is 01:05:32.117 --> 01:05:33.950 - 14 too high for you? 01:05:34.114 --> 01:05:40.031 - Or a unit. Is one, I guess, I guess like putting a star by it would be good because it's one that- Yeah, 01:05:40.031 --> 01:05:45.723 - we can go back. Personally, we find like one small amount. I don't want to zero them out. I think it 01:05:45.723 --> 01:05:51.528 - also, it only will come into issue if we hit something that Kevin's very passionate about and it gets- 01:05:51.528 --> 01:05:57.220 - Yeah. Nothing. And then- Okay. And then there's an argument to be made. So I think that- Yeah. If we 01:05:57.220 --> 01:06:02.686 - asked for it to say, hey, this is one we would revisit to move some money. For sure. Yeah. Okay. 01:06:03.330 --> 01:06:10.450 - That's a good point, thank you. Bloomington Cooperative Living, they requested 8,500 and got 2,500. 01:06:10.450 --> 01:06:17.571 - Does anybody have a? So I'm fine with giving them money if this group wants to give them money, but 01:06:17.571 --> 01:06:24.691 - they repeatedly during their presentation talked about fair housing, and then they mentioned age as 01:06:24.691 --> 01:06:31.883 - discriminatory against fair housing, right? I mean, they talked about retaining young people. That's 01:06:31.883 --> 01:06:33.022 - discriminatory. 01:06:33.346 --> 01:06:40.746 - I think he was just, he didn't understand what your housing is, right? And I'm fine with that, but because 01:06:40.746 --> 01:06:47.662 - I worked in that field, I felt like I can't have someone say your housing, but if, like I was going 01:06:47.662 --> 01:06:54.924 - to use it, so. I would just say the three of us gave zero, and so half of us have given zero. So I don't 01:06:54.924 --> 01:07:02.462 - know if that, how that weighs. Again, maybe it's an asterisk to come back to, but. I felt like their target, 01:07:03.298 --> 01:07:10.470 - population didn't fully fall under our population's need. And I also felt like their ass didn't make 01:07:10.470 --> 01:07:17.714 - any sense. He couldn't name any global outreach for getting more people in the door. But so a digital 01:07:17.714 --> 01:07:25.028 - outreach strategy made no sense to me at all. I was like, that's something silly, but. And once again, 01:07:25.028 --> 01:07:32.414 - it's a jewel, but I mean, if they don't, then there's a chance for me in certain periods too. But I do, 01:07:32.770 --> 01:07:41.134 - I think that there's merit in alternative housing. I think that they, what they're doing is good, but 01:07:41.134 --> 01:07:49.334 - call it fair housing is not. Yeah. So Ms. Snowden at the very least. I gave them less than 50% what 01:07:49.334 --> 01:07:57.862 - they asked. And I'm not against adjusting that. I'm fine with 2,500. I think I'd be fine with zero too, 01:07:57.862 --> 01:08:01.470 - if you guys want to make a strong argument. 01:08:01.570 --> 01:08:09.644 - I could reduce mine based upon your comments, because it didn't occur to me that it would be against 01:08:09.644 --> 01:08:17.799 - fair housing. I can reduce mine. I'm happy to reduce mine, too. I had five, I think, $5,000 for them. 01:08:17.799 --> 01:08:26.113 - So when you guys say you're happy to reduce, you mean down to zero? Yes. Yeah. OK. I mean, I don't want 01:08:26.113 --> 01:08:30.750 - to issue anything that would be discriminatory, actually. 01:08:31.266 --> 01:08:37.293 - doesn't opportunity. Yeah. I mean, it just, I worry about, you know, are they helping people who are 01:08:37.293 --> 01:08:43.261 - able, you know, like someone in the wheelchair, are they going to make sense accessible for them? I 01:08:43.261 --> 01:08:49.467 - just don't know any of those questions. And he didn't help this case by saying, by using the term young 01:08:49.467 --> 01:08:55.852 - or keeping young. And they're not actively discriminatory. Just more, I feel it speaks to the ways they're 01:08:55.852 --> 01:08:59.134 - not intentional. Yeah. Right. And the way that we want 01:09:00.354 --> 01:09:10.768 - Yeah. Okay. I made the change. So that sounds good to me. Okay. Boys and Girls Club of Bloomington. 01:09:10.768 --> 01:09:21.287 - So this is the one that had the security. They requested 20,000. We've averaged 14,000. Anybody have 01:09:21.287 --> 01:09:26.494 - feelings about that? They were super high for me. 01:09:27.842 --> 01:09:43.630 - I recommended 20, but I'm also buying 14. It's close to what I recommended. Cancer support community, 01:09:43.630 --> 01:09:56.478 - they requested 3650. They got 3044, so super close. Anybody have thoughts on that? 01:09:56.962 --> 01:10:04.518 - I mean, they got medium on my rubric and, but still made it through kind of the threshold of fully funding 01:10:04.518 --> 01:10:11.720 - them, mostly because like that number is super accessible. And, um, and I, and I also, I think I gave 01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:18.852 - them a boost up because that is, I think. Often underserved population, like not always attended to. 01:10:18.852 --> 01:10:25.278 - And it was exactly how it went with me. I gave them a medium, but then I gave them a full. 01:10:26.146 --> 01:10:32.824 - full boost up to full amount for those same patients, more or less. Yeah, I feel like this is, 01:10:32.824 --> 01:10:39.995 - it's small, but targeted. And I also think that like part of the way that I thought through emergency 01:10:39.995 --> 01:10:47.587 - stuff is whether you're providing immediate relief and this is providing immediate relief during treatment, 01:10:47.587 --> 01:10:54.617 - right? So it's like, it's super narrow, but it's like, I think that's how it ended up still high on 01:10:54.617 --> 01:10:55.390 - my rubric. 01:10:55.970 --> 01:11:03.650 - Yeah. Yeah, it's such a modest request. Yeah. Would anybody be opposed to bumping this up to full funding? 01:11:03.650 --> 01:11:10.899 - Because it's just an extra $600, essentially. We can asterisk anything and come back, just because I 01:11:10.899 --> 01:11:18.077 - think there's lots of them that are at that best approach. That's true. OK. We're going to do that. 01:11:18.077 --> 01:11:25.470 - But we should. I mean, we should give away the additional $3,000. Would you spend the full money down? 01:11:25.986 --> 01:11:31.646 - I think if we, I don't know, we can argue about that at the end. I don't have a problem with leaving 01:11:31.646 --> 01:11:37.362 - some in the kitty for the future. There's already from the past. Is there still already? I thought we 01:11:37.362 --> 01:11:43.190 - came pretty close to driving it. There's one. What is north? I don't remember, but that's because also, 01:11:43.190 --> 01:11:48.962 - I mean, because, you know, folks don't always end up spending all the money they get allocated because 01:11:48.962 --> 01:11:54.398 - they have to spend it within the window. But that's usually why there's like we've skipped that. 01:11:54.786 --> 01:12:02.806 - Yeah, after allocating so great last year and I know that at least one station. Okay, cool. 01:12:02.806 --> 01:12:11.698 - Good to know. So CJM asked for almost 13,000. They get just over 10,000 according to how we averaged. 01:12:11.698 --> 01:12:20.416 - How does everybody feel about that? I felt like it was a strong leverage for a small request is why 01:12:20.416 --> 01:12:22.334 - I ranked them highly. 01:12:23.010 --> 01:12:33.732 - Like they were doing a lot with a little ask. Yeah. I also got a full recommend full funding recommendation 01:12:33.732 --> 01:12:43.758 - for me. Would you guys like to ask this one particular, but not particularly. No. Yes. I mean, we're 01:12:43.758 --> 01:12:51.998 - going to be business one. This is more than I allocated them there. So yeah. Okay. 01:12:53.442 --> 01:13:03.146 - Community Kitchen, they asked for $5,903. We gave them $5,592.67. This is an example of one that should 01:13:03.146 --> 01:13:12.664 - be fully funded, but... We're close. We're so close. And that this is, again, I feel... I would argue 01:13:12.664 --> 01:13:21.342 - to remove the asterisk from C-GEM, just even in reference to this other one. It shows, like, 01:13:21.634 --> 01:13:27.303 - I think to Cameron's point earlier, to Eddie's point earlier, like this is directly helping people in 01:13:27.303 --> 01:13:33.084 - need now. Community justice mediation is like, it's great. I get it sort of structural. It makes sense. 01:13:33.084 --> 01:13:38.809 - It's fantastic. Support it. But, but the purpose of our fund should prioritize people. It's like, this 01:13:38.809 --> 01:13:41.310 - is going directly to people to get food now. 01:13:42.306 --> 01:13:49.385 - My only pushback around that is that I feel like the fact that they're doing eviction, I feel like that 01:13:49.385 --> 01:13:56.465 - is about to be in full swing. That does feel like an emergency service right now. That's fair. But that 01:13:56.465 --> 01:14:03.272 - was my only like, normally no preventative, but in this case, I feel like their services are- Yeah, 01:14:03.272 --> 01:14:09.534 - that's fair. But I'm just saying, I don't disagree with what you're saying just in terms of 01:14:09.666 --> 01:14:15.323 - comparing those two types of emergencies, right? I agree. Would you give like a 0.5 more anyway? But 01:14:15.323 --> 01:14:21.092 - it's also not the hill we're going to die on by moving if we don't want it complete. Yeah. But anyway, 01:14:21.092 --> 01:14:26.804 - I'll comment for a later time because we'll see how many asterisks we have right at this time. We may 01:14:26.804 --> 01:14:32.629 - not have that many. That's true. I mean, yeah, we may go back to the asterisks and be like, okay, we've 01:14:32.629 --> 01:14:37.950 - got to wait this out. Yeah, exactly. Courage to change. So we're living. They asked for 4,500. 01:14:38.242 --> 01:14:45.340 - We have averaged at $1,603. Anybody want to talk about that? I had it at zero, and it's only because 01:14:45.340 --> 01:14:52.438 - they support love for me. They don't have a problem with monetization, which is funny. And it's less 01:14:52.438 --> 01:14:59.606 - than the $4,500, but it's better than the zero that I do. Did anyone else get cigarettes? I get Deere 01:14:59.606 --> 01:15:05.790 - as well, just because they were too. They were medium low on my Uber. Yeah, I had them. 01:15:06.114 --> 01:15:14.235 - medium low, but I gave them 50%. So, but I'm not gonna argue. I had the medium, but then gave them way 01:15:14.235 --> 01:15:22.436 - less than 50%. I mean, I gave them like 1,800. That's, I mean. I'm fine with giving them money. I mean, 01:15:22.436 --> 01:15:30.321 - I think that maybe, I mean, obviously I pushed and I give still less money. So there's money on the 01:15:30.321 --> 01:15:33.790 - table. Yeah. Now there's some people. Okay. 01:15:35.170 --> 01:15:44.262 - Well, and my only thing here is that like, this was so far beyond like an emergency service where it's 01:15:44.262 --> 01:15:53.178 - like pro-social activities for, I don't know. Yeah, I struggled at first with this one, but the more 01:15:53.178 --> 01:16:02.182 - I thought about it, especially in light of some of my other awards that I was looking at as emergency 01:16:02.182 --> 01:16:04.830 - services, I saw this as very, 01:16:06.434 --> 01:16:15.266 - powerful, actually, and what I ended up coming around to was that this was a very powerful preventive 01:16:15.266 --> 01:16:24.359 - measure that you could say is making them feel part of, you know, making people feel part of a community 01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:33.018 - is. Yeah, so I, I would argue to give them something. I'm fine with that at all. Okay. Anybody else 01:16:33.018 --> 01:16:36.222 - have a argument of or against? Okay. 01:16:36.450 --> 01:16:43.422 - I gave it more, but I'm happy to go down on that one too. Okay. All right. Thank you. Let's 01:16:43.422 --> 01:16:51.076 - go to developmental services. They asked for 2800. They got just over 2000. I had them at medium low 01:16:51.076 --> 01:16:58.806 - and I ended up giving them full funding. So this is again, going back to that philosophy, but because 01:16:58.806 --> 01:17:05.854 - it was so low, what I, I had initially given them something much lower. I think I gave them, 01:17:06.594 --> 01:17:13.719 - I don't remember what I initially had been thinking, but then I was like, well, I have money left over. 01:17:13.719 --> 01:17:20.707 - It's not much more to bulk them up to full. I'm fine with this amount. I'm fine with. I had also said 01:17:20.707 --> 01:17:27.626 - full funding, they ranked medium for me. And a lot of it was just because we don't see a lot of asks 01:17:27.626 --> 01:17:34.957 - for theft, specifically individuals with disabilities felt like another chronically underserved population 01:17:34.957 --> 01:17:36.190 - with a small ask. 01:17:36.738 --> 01:17:48.095 - and serve and then dealing with like, food and equipment. Yeah, as well. So interacting. Everybody good 01:17:48.095 --> 01:17:59.016 - with this? Exodus asked for 20,000. We've awarded them 14,287. Any thoughts on this one? We're like 01:17:59.016 --> 01:18:05.022 - their only source of funding outside of philanthropic. 01:18:07.138 --> 01:18:17.192 - I had awarded them higher. I had asterisk, okay. Yeah, I had them ranked highly. I gave them a little 01:18:17.192 --> 01:18:27.444 - bit of a miss. I gave 16 and it's like 14. Did you say 14,000 is what they were? 14,287 is our average. 01:18:27.444 --> 01:18:36.414 - Yeah, I had them at 17. Okay, so we'll come back to that one with the asterisk. Girls Inc. 01:18:37.250 --> 01:18:46.346 - Oh, that average allocation is pretty much what I gave them. It's a little more than what I gave them, 01:18:46.346 --> 01:18:54.383 - but it seems they ranked medium low for me. Anybody else have different feelings than this 01:18:54.383 --> 01:19:03.745 - average allocation? All right. So Habitat for Humanity, they requested 14,137. We gave them almost 11,000 01:19:03.745 --> 01:19:05.246 - in our averages. 01:19:07.106 --> 01:19:14.677 - Anybody? Seems like we're all kind of on the same page with that one, maybe. You know, I gave them about 01:19:14.677 --> 01:19:22.032 - what the average is. And I was confused, I think, because the number of people that they were serving 01:19:22.032 --> 01:19:29.315 - seemed to be extraordinarily high. I mean, maybe they were calculating because they were using their 01:19:29.315 --> 01:19:36.670 - buying equipment that they would be building homes for. I can't remember. It was something like that. 01:19:36.930 --> 01:19:44.205 - and I was like, hmm, that just doesn't seem reasonable to me that it would be. I made a note that said 01:19:44.205 --> 01:19:51.550 - incomplete information, so I just went by the history of the organization. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they 01:19:51.550 --> 01:19:58.967 - said the number of Louisville team residents served was 910. Yeah, it just didn't seem for the equipment 01:19:58.967 --> 01:20:05.182 - that they were asking for that it would manifest that number. So anyway, I'm happy with 01:20:06.402 --> 01:20:18.741 - essentially, you know, on par with what I. All right. Thank you. Hoosier Hills. They requested 40,000. 01:20:18.741 --> 01:20:30.840 - We can darn near close with our averages. 38,907. Should we asterisk this or feel good about leaving 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:36.350 - it where it is? Happy to ask. And hurt. Okay. 01:20:37.026 --> 01:20:43.669 - just because we're so close if we have that leftover again, too. All right. Hotels for Hope. OK, so 01:20:43.669 --> 01:20:50.510 - it seems like we had some, from what I'm hearing, range of discrepancies here. They asked for $36,000. 01:20:50.510 --> 01:20:57.418 - They've averaged $21,000. I know some have said they didn't award any. So does anybody have an argument 01:20:57.418 --> 01:21:04.061 - they want to make here? So when Katie Norris was here, I mean, I think she presented well. And when 01:21:04.061 --> 01:21:06.718 - she hit on some of the points that were 01:21:06.978 --> 01:21:14.714 - are the heading call on my end. If they're fulfilling that, I can't verify that. I just know that there 01:21:14.714 --> 01:21:22.227 - is a group of people who are in a housing network, South Central Housing Network. We've invited them 01:21:22.227 --> 01:21:30.335 - to meetings repeatedly. They never come. There's always an excuse. And I have not worked with them directly. 01:21:30.335 --> 01:21:36.286 - And I think they're doing adequate work. They're getting some people in a safe, 01:21:36.482 --> 01:21:47.427 - somewhere safe for a night. But for my colleagues who work in this field, they have said that it's not 01:21:47.427 --> 01:21:58.266 - helping to hurt in working with hotels for the homeless. They're not happy working with this. This is 01:21:58.266 --> 01:22:05.598 - one where I had to adjust my bias a little bit, like looking just at 01:22:05.730 --> 01:22:14.317 - Looking at what's on paper, like as I share everything I said and I would actually personally, I feel 01:22:14.317 --> 01:22:21.726 - like I don't particularly feel like they need to be funded particularly at this amount. 01:22:22.018 --> 01:22:28.083 - why the amount matters so much. I think that, and I'm the one, I probably gave them very close to the 01:22:28.083 --> 01:22:34.267 - lot though, because they ranked highly on a rubric. I think my, the biggest take, the biggest knockdown 01:22:34.267 --> 01:22:40.451 - for me though, was that there wasn't really strong evidence of the sort of outcome per dollar. And it's 01:22:40.451 --> 01:22:46.575 - a really high dollar per person amount. So it's actually probably one of the higher dollars per person 01:22:46.575 --> 01:22:48.894 - served amounts on here. And, you know, 01:22:49.026 --> 01:22:54.980 - They didn't give any evidence that actually it helps or works. It's just like, they gave evidence that 01:22:54.980 --> 01:23:00.414 - it's nice and it's good and it's needed. And so that, that was a tension point for me in our, 01:23:00.414 --> 01:23:06.367 - in our rubric, but we don't really have a space to be like, yeah, but like, what are the outcomes that 01:23:06.367 --> 01:23:12.379 - you're buying here? Right. If that makes sense. So, so if, if, if we were, you know, so that, so that's 01:23:12.379 --> 01:23:16.830 - my, I mean, my rubric is my rubric, but, um, I wouldn't be upset with, with. 01:23:17.378 --> 01:23:27.027 - searing them out, to be honest with you. So I've got a question because I give them the highest I think 01:23:27.027 --> 01:23:36.397 - of anyone. So I thought this is kind of a critical emergency service if somebody is in need to get a 01:23:36.397 --> 01:23:46.046 - hotel for the night because of whatever reason. And I suppose there may be shelter space, but you know, 01:23:46.722 --> 01:23:54.668 - Could this save a life? Could this save some people from frostbite? Is this something that is, if we 01:23:54.668 --> 01:24:02.850 - didn't fund them, that it could result in human arm? I just don't know. You have a lot more experience. 01:24:02.850 --> 01:24:11.582 - Or Cameron, perhaps you ranked them, I think you gave them an 18. What's your view? I felt similarly about it. 01:24:12.706 --> 01:24:20.340 - I gave them half, they were medium low on my rubric. But I think a lot of it was because the cost for 01:24:20.340 --> 01:24:27.825 - the resident is so high. But I had the same kind of moment, especially which is kind of like, yeah, 01:24:27.825 --> 01:24:35.160 - the brutality to the weather on either end of the spectrum and like other like crisis situations. 01:24:35.160 --> 01:24:42.270 - I think, I mean. Does this group help people in need? Yes. I mean, it happens, right? They do. 01:24:42.434 --> 01:24:49.222 - didn't I feel comfortable going to from things that my colleagues have told me, but I didn't have like, 01:24:49.222 --> 01:24:55.945 - there's also wasn't the questions that we have. That's why I kept my daughter. I mean, she said, dude, 01:24:55.945 --> 01:25:02.472 - I'll hang on. It's like, yeah, you know, in my head, I'm like, you know, but I know all these other 01:25:02.472 --> 01:25:09.064 - problems. So I just, that's how I, that's why I zeroed them out. But I'd say just thinking about the 01:25:09.064 --> 01:25:10.174 - process and the, 01:25:11.266 --> 01:25:20.727 - When you call it the like the integrity of the process. The reason why we have a rewriting exactly for 01:25:20.727 --> 01:25:24.126 - this type of thing. And I think that 01:25:24.706 --> 01:25:30.138 - You and I frankly should have brought this up when we were inviting people to the next round to begin 01:25:30.138 --> 01:25:35.622 - with. Right. Like we could have made the argument then and said, no, you know what? I don't think that 01:25:35.622 --> 01:25:41.001 - we want to fund them at all. We'd rather put, which an argument I could make. I would rather that we 01:25:41.001 --> 01:25:46.326 - put 21,000 to give 21,000 a weekend. That's not a question though on the table. Right. And, and so, 01:25:46.326 --> 01:25:48.030 - and so I think that we have to. 01:25:48.514 --> 01:25:54.431 - injustice, you have to look this in the way of, we had a rubric, we had a process, they followed it, 01:25:54.431 --> 01:26:00.524 - we've all evaluated it independently, and we came up with this number, right? And myself included, like 01:26:00.524 --> 01:26:06.441 - I'm saying, I actually don't really think they should be funded, but the rubric says they should be. 01:26:06.441 --> 01:26:12.476 - No, that's fair. And they actually spoiled, like, for me. So I feel comfortable with still saying what 01:26:12.476 --> 01:26:14.526 - I'm saying, but I'm also fine with 01:26:15.490 --> 01:26:21.920 - giving them some money because they do help people. So is it long-term effective? Does it really move 01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:28.349 - the needle on anything? I don't know. My colleagues don't think so, but you know. Yeah. I'm fine with 01:26:28.349 --> 01:26:34.905 - people. Yeah, but it's a high, it's a large amount to be honest. It is a large amount. I would advocate 01:26:34.905 --> 01:26:36.670 - that they shouldn't get it. 01:26:38.818 --> 01:26:48.241 - Not to put you on the spot, but we're allocating 21. Yes, I mean, I'm fine. Would we go down to 50%? 01:26:48.241 --> 01:26:57.943 - Yeah. That way we're taking into consideration, you know. But that's arbitrary, right? Because I didn't 01:26:57.943 --> 01:27:06.526 - have a zero. This is reflective of me suggesting them. So, I mean, I think that it would be 01:27:06.658 --> 01:27:15.016 - I guess what I'm saying is that I've ranked them, I've given them 30. And now on the basis of probably 01:27:15.016 --> 01:27:23.537 - incomplete information, and now that I've received some information, I'd be willing to go lower. Cameron 01:27:23.537 --> 01:27:32.382 - makes a good hedging, well, maybe strike 50% as of. What would happen if you lowered, if you lift just like, 01:27:33.186 --> 01:27:41.823 - Say you lowered yours to 15, just as an example, based on the new information. What are you saying? 01:27:41.823 --> 01:27:51.064 - I don't quite follow the discussion that much. I mean, do they or do they not provide an emergency shelter 01:27:51.064 --> 01:28:00.133 - service to the community? My understanding is that they do. Do they have a bad representational problem? 01:28:00.133 --> 01:28:02.206 - I wasn't aware of that. 01:28:02.530 --> 01:28:09.428 - You know, it's an existing resource. It's in the community. So the cost of, uh, I mean, we have these 01:28:09.428 --> 01:28:16.462 - unused hotel rooms and then I, I, I, I, I'm happy to go down from what I gave them a lot, but I, I just 01:28:16.462 --> 01:28:21.534 - don't agree that they're not a legitimate important providing an important 01:28:21.730 --> 01:28:28.835 - service arguably an emergency service. Yeah. I don't think the argument is that they're not legitimate. 01:28:28.835 --> 01:28:35.804 - That's certainly not the argument. I think the argument is how they fit in with the broader ecosystem 01:28:35.804 --> 01:28:42.841 - of homeless response that we're trying to do in the city. It's like you can do good work, but it throw 01:28:42.841 --> 01:28:49.673 - off some other good work as well. It doesn't mean that what you're doing is not good. It just means 01:28:49.673 --> 01:28:51.518 - that it has externalities. 01:28:51.938 --> 01:28:59.795 - So is there evidence that this disrupts emergency shelter services that would be more in line with what 01:28:59.795 --> 01:29:07.350 - this comprehensive plan is overall for the city heading home? I mean, I don't know. Maybe there are 01:29:07.350 --> 01:29:15.132 - people that are just that's just the way they would turn. They would turn to a hotel. Pro this program 01:29:15.132 --> 01:29:16.190 - first, maybe. 01:29:16.482 --> 01:29:23.190 - But you'd agree that it's a temporary, it's a temporary program, right? Like the effect of getting a 01:29:23.190 --> 01:29:29.965 - hotel room doesn't get you closer to getting off the streets. It seems to me like we can kind of make 01:29:29.965 --> 01:29:36.673 - a similar argument towards a lot of stuff, like providing food, emergency food aid. It's like, well, 01:29:36.673 --> 01:29:43.182 - does that solve your long-term problem? No. Fair point. I mean, fair point. Yeah. I mean, that's, 01:29:43.182 --> 01:29:44.510 - and again, I don't, 01:29:44.706 --> 01:29:50.463 - I don't think that any of the, I think all the discussion we're having is useful. I don't think that 01:29:50.463 --> 01:29:56.449 - any of it is the question on the table, right? Like to be honest, because I, you know, I think to Andy's 01:29:56.449 --> 01:30:02.377 - point, it's like, we should deal with what's in front of us. And what's in front of us is they're doing 01:30:02.377 --> 01:30:08.306 - an emergency service. That's how we're evaluating them, right? Like I, so, I mean, I have no issue with 01:30:08.306 --> 01:30:14.462 - at least staying as it is. I was gonna say, I say for now we stay as it is. We have appetite on both sides. 01:30:14.562 --> 01:30:20.799 - So let's just leave it as it is for now. I recognize it's a stock gap. But I'd be happy to go half. 01:30:20.799 --> 01:30:27.035 - I'd be happy to go half on this. That's fine. If you both went half, it lowers it to 18 from 21. So 01:30:27.035 --> 01:30:33.459 - it's like we're pulling here for, you know what I'm saying? That's fine. I'm fine with that. We're all 01:30:33.459 --> 01:30:39.758 - in agreement with that because then we can be taking some of that. It's not a ton of funding, but we 01:30:39.758 --> 01:30:42.814 - can put it toward more emergency services. Good. 01:30:44.610 --> 01:30:52.295 - You're saying you'll change it? Yeah, change it in the average and then we'll have another one that's 01:30:52.295 --> 01:31:00.056 - like suggested or something like that. Oh, I had been changing some as we went along. Oh, that's fine. 01:31:00.056 --> 01:31:07.891 - All right. That's good. Okay. Indiana Recovery Alliance, they requested 22,000. We gave them just under 01:31:07.891 --> 01:31:12.638 - 19,000 in our averages. This is super close to what I ended up 01:31:14.242 --> 01:31:25.982 - allocating them. Does anybody have any feelings about IRA? Cool. All right. So we will leave them as 01:31:25.982 --> 01:31:38.070 - is. Ivy Tech requested 10,000. We averaged seven and three quarters thousand. Anybody have any thoughts 01:31:38.070 --> 01:31:41.790 - about the Ivy Tech food pantry? 01:31:47.458 --> 01:31:58.289 - They requested $5,000. We ended up allotting $1,423 on average. They rated very low for me. It's hard 01:31:58.289 --> 01:32:09.544 - because scoring from the rubric, they don't match most of our criteria. And I feel like it feels slightly 01:32:09.544 --> 01:32:16.446 - hard because they think that they made a really compelling case. 01:32:16.866 --> 01:32:22.668 - I know. I feel like that feels like an equity issue because anybody, honestly, I thought they all make 01:32:22.668 --> 01:32:28.526 - a little case. Yeah. But like, I don't know if that is enough of a reason for us to fund them when they 01:32:28.526 --> 01:32:34.216 - don't match our priorities. High cost per, you know, sort of high cost per user, low amount of users 01:32:34.216 --> 01:32:39.961 - in town. And, and now like addressing like, it's like, it's not like they're trying to make for their 01:32:39.961 --> 01:32:44.862 - scholarship fund or something. You know, it's like they need free admission, but like, 01:32:47.234 --> 01:32:54.749 - And they said, we want to use this funding to get the sheets and all the things that like. The sort 01:32:54.749 --> 01:33:02.489 - of psychosocial support for children is, is long-term beneficial. But to your point, if we look at the 01:33:02.489 --> 01:33:10.304 - cost per resident is never. I think that's why many of us had them like low. I had a medium low, right? 01:33:10.304 --> 01:33:13.310 - I had a medium low. They weren't, they, 01:33:13.602 --> 01:33:23.302 - They still score higher than the people I gave zero to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So are we asterisking? Leave 01:33:23.302 --> 01:33:33.285 - it as it is. Leave it as it is. We're good with this. It was a hard one because for all the same reasons. 01:33:33.285 --> 01:33:43.550 - Yeah. Okay. We will leave them as is. All right. Monroe County court appointed. So CASA asked for 9,342,536. 01:33:43.874 --> 01:33:51.580 - or 326. I have big feelings on this one. I gave them zero. I mean, yeah, they measured on the rubric, 01:33:51.580 --> 01:33:59.285 - but I really don't think this is a good use of social service grant funding money to buy supplies for 01:33:59.285 --> 01:34:06.915 - training for whiteboards and a nice meeting table and computers. They can do their trainings. I feel 01:34:06.915 --> 01:34:13.790 - like this is very poor use of our money. And that is my argument. I put them on the table. 01:34:15.106 --> 01:34:24.291 - I mean, they ranked really low on my fruit break, because I also recommended zero. That's interesting. 01:34:24.291 --> 01:34:33.477 - I have ranked them very high. And yeah, I gave them near their full amount. And I just think that this 01:34:33.477 --> 01:34:42.930 - is just helping to, because they're all volunteers, right? Classic folks are all volunteers. And training 01:34:42.930 --> 01:34:44.446 - them adequately. 01:34:45.410 --> 01:34:55.845 - is important, but I could re-taste that. I'm not an expert in skills. But I think for me, though we 01:34:55.845 --> 01:35:08.158 - may not think about this through the lens of immediate emergency, I do think this is a community resilience function. 01:35:08.546 --> 01:35:15.040 - thus falls in the same category preventative falls in the categories how we avoid lots of very serious 01:35:15.040 --> 01:35:21.598 - emergencies of which one of these happening it's like has no I don't know what cost you put on you know 01:35:21.598 --> 01:35:28.092 - child things going wrong yeah but they can still train their volunteers but I think we could make that 01:35:28.092 --> 01:35:34.334 - same argument about any of these things you're like you know like and I don't think that we should 01:35:35.650 --> 01:35:41.435 - You know, I mean, I think that, I think here, again, that's a great example of how, of where, as much 01:35:41.435 --> 01:35:47.220 - as we're, we're being picky about the rubric, I think it's a good example where the rubric does well, 01:35:47.220 --> 01:35:52.948 - um, in the sense that, in the sense that I, I, I agree, you know, if we're comparing that to food or 01:35:52.948 --> 01:35:59.130 - something, but that's what we're trying not to do. Um, you know, say, say it's like, no, it does disqualify. 01:35:59.130 --> 01:36:02.590 - And, and if so, where, but on my rubric, they come out high. 01:36:03.842 --> 01:36:14.566 - just, I mean, based on cost, based on, you know, based on, based on number of residents served. So, 01:36:14.566 --> 01:36:26.148 - and I think Eddie felt the same. So, yeah. I feel the same. I mean, I realize, you know, just for supplies, 01:36:26.148 --> 01:36:30.974 - but it seems like they're always requesting, 01:36:32.034 --> 01:36:39.431 - community for volunteers. Right. Right. And the, the risk associated with, you know, an abusive situation 01:36:39.431 --> 01:36:46.549 - for children that need to navigate. The volunteer process is intensive to usually graduate. Yeah. Um, 01:36:46.549 --> 01:36:54.016 - and I'll admit, this is the one that I have a bias against. I interviewed a few years ago to be a trainer, 01:36:54.016 --> 01:36:57.086 - a little trainer, and they never even like, 01:36:57.250 --> 01:37:03.241 - acknowledged me afterwards and said things, but I think that's where it's born. Because they don't have 01:37:03.241 --> 01:37:09.174 - good enough knowledge. No, I think that they don't treat people right. That was what I was taking into 01:37:09.174 --> 01:37:15.165 - it. Well, that's how they treat somebody who interviewed for a job with them. Wow. That was my insight. 01:37:15.165 --> 01:37:21.041 - Exactly. And those are the type of things I think, and thank you for saying that aloud because that's 01:37:21.041 --> 01:37:25.534 - not a thing you have to say aloud, but thank you for saying that. But I think 01:37:25.730 --> 01:37:30.537 - I think that's part of the things that we want to guard against, right? It's like, we have to review 01:37:30.537 --> 01:37:35.440 - what's in front of us. And I think also as we think about next year, like these are the type of things 01:37:35.440 --> 01:37:40.485 - that we, again, like the way that Eddie and I should have surfaced our concerns about hotels for a whole, 01:37:40.485 --> 01:37:45.245 - you know, like I think we should have surfaced some of this earlier on. Is it actually like, here's 01:37:45.245 --> 01:37:50.053 - some things that- Here's something I know. Yeah, or also like, here's some things that like, I don't 01:37:50.053 --> 01:37:54.622 - think that we should be talking about giving people better equipment. Like, we just could have, 01:37:54.850 --> 01:38:00.979 - from the get-go, like push that off or have them defend that. And I don't think that at this stage, 01:38:00.979 --> 01:38:07.292 - us going retrospectively to like those types of decisions, I think it's fair. I think we have to stick 01:38:07.292 --> 01:38:13.543 - with, like how Rupert says this. All right. So we'll leave this as is. Yeah. Well, unless you want to 01:38:13.543 --> 01:38:19.672 - make a strong case. Yeah. I made as strong a case as I can. And I'm not going to fight it. It's not 01:38:19.672 --> 01:38:23.166 - one of our bigger asks anyway. And yeah, they, you know, 01:38:23.394 --> 01:38:33.674 - They do good work on the other end, so. Yeah, mine is zero is just because mine was given to somebody. 01:38:33.674 --> 01:38:43.954 - Okay. Monroe County Humane Association asked for 13,000. We gave 9,476. These guys, they scored medium 01:38:43.954 --> 01:38:51.838 - for me and I didn't give them money because I managed to give everybody money. 01:38:52.066 --> 01:39:01.414 - basically, but I will say, I feel like this is very adjacent to what we're supposed to be funding. Because 01:39:01.414 --> 01:39:10.325 - it's animals. Yeah. Well, you could then argue that the animals support people. Yeah. I mean, that's, 01:39:10.325 --> 01:39:19.149 - I mean, again, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, I think, I think I'll, I think I'll 01:39:19.149 --> 01:39:21.246 - find them just, I just, 01:39:21.602 --> 01:39:28.265 - So, you know, for the good of the order of saying, like, you know, maybe I give them money and put them 01:39:28.265 --> 01:39:34.801 - in the medium category, but, um, you know, did I give them the least amount of money? Um, so I'm just 01:39:34.801 --> 01:39:41.272 - saying it might be higher if somebody wants to. Yeah. I mean, I get you, most of you gave them quite 01:39:41.272 --> 01:39:46.718 - a bit more. I mean, I gave them 5,000 and you all gave them, you know, 10 and above. 01:39:47.394 --> 01:39:54.045 - No, I, I gave him seven for kind of the same. I feel the same way. Isaac does really on this one, but 01:39:54.045 --> 01:40:00.761 - so I tried to come around half, I guess half would have actually been 6,500. I said seven, but I think 01:40:00.761 --> 01:40:07.347 - I gave them over 11. To be clear, I'm saying, I'm saying this may be an asterisk that you might want 01:40:07.347 --> 01:40:13.150 - to give more to, but just cause I noticed the, to the point about where, where the, the. 01:40:13.250 --> 01:40:19.207 - Um, uh, spread matters here, uh, I'm skewing it a bit more sort of dramatically. So, so if you guys 01:40:19.207 --> 01:40:25.401 - wanted to go up, we have extra money. So just, uh, just a note to there that our averages are the, the, 01:40:25.401 --> 01:40:31.418 - the space between our averages is, is, is mess. Like I am, I am the outlier. Um, cause even Andy was 01:40:31.418 --> 01:40:37.553 - a bit higher, so closer to everybody's average, I'm like way off. So, so just, if you want to asterisk 01:40:37.553 --> 01:40:41.246 - that and come back, cause we might have some extra money. So. 01:40:41.378 --> 01:40:49.900 - It's close to my allocation. And I just, I was thinking again, you know, the psychological distress 01:40:49.900 --> 01:40:58.422 - of, you know, not having enough for your pet and the support that it offers to people or anyone for 01:40:58.422 --> 01:41:07.200 - that matter. But, you know, if they were to be deprived of it. Anyway. Yeah. I feel, I feel good about 01:41:07.200 --> 01:41:08.478 - where it's at. 01:41:10.658 --> 01:41:19.819 - Mother Hubbard's covered 13,182. We averaged 12,730. So we're close. We're darn close on this one. Anybody 01:41:19.819 --> 01:41:28.381 - have any strong feelings one way or another? It's close to mine. I'm like that. I'm fine with that, 01:41:28.381 --> 01:41:37.114 - right? Even if I wanted to give a little bit more. Yeah, I'm good. It's a lot of times, like I'm only 01:41:37.114 --> 01:41:38.398 - piping up one. 01:41:39.202 --> 01:41:55.708 - Someone's getting zero. All right. My sister's closet. So this was one of our biggest asks. 50,000. 01:41:55.708 --> 01:42:07.262 - We've averaged 27,633. I had them medium. I had a lot of them 20,000. 01:42:07.842 --> 01:42:13.553 - Doing a bit more. I don't know. Did they answer an email for us or did they come in? They came in. I 01:42:13.553 --> 01:42:19.320 - didn't watch that far. Or were they early? I don't know. I didn't watch it. They were the last. Yeah. 01:42:19.320 --> 01:42:24.974 - So what did you learn from it? Cause I had them, like I had them hide, but then I tempered it based 01:42:24.974 --> 01:42:31.138 - on, and I should have noted this in my notes. I tempered it based on, I was like, Oh wait, there's something 01:42:31.138 --> 01:42:35.774 - that I'm not clear about on their thing. So I should have actually watched their, 01:42:35.874 --> 01:42:42.400 - but it still ended up high. So I was like, okay with it. But like, there's a side of me which would 01:42:42.400 --> 01:42:48.534 - have funded them even higher than where I did, if that makes sense. I'm much higher than the, 01:42:48.534 --> 01:42:55.452 - I'm at 40. Yeah. And it's built like electrical and building and to keep that place safe. I mean, they've 01:42:55.452 --> 01:43:02.239 - been an institution where they've been at for a long time. And I may be wrong, but partially the reason 01:43:02.239 --> 01:43:05.502 - why they're moving is because like you mentioned, 01:43:05.890 --> 01:43:12.533 - So they're being forced to move into a new location and they're being lipstick on a pig. And it was 01:43:12.533 --> 01:43:19.441 - like, oh, we love the visibility and whatever. I looked up the building and it was like a giant garage. 01:43:19.441 --> 01:43:26.349 - I think that they will have a higher visibility. But yeah, I think that they're trying to make the best 01:43:26.349 --> 01:43:32.062 - out of a situation that they can't control. And I want their building to be the same. 01:43:32.386 --> 01:43:38.580 - Yeah, exactly. Air conditioning and electrical work, which is expensive. But I did mention to them that, 01:43:38.580 --> 01:43:44.479 - you know, you may qualify for seal money and some other stuff. So yeah, it's but I find it a little 01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:50.496 - bit less. I wouldn't be able to do more. So I'm just saying. Yeah. Well, why don't we put an asterisk 01:43:50.496 --> 01:43:56.454 - by them? We'll see what we have left over at the end again for playing with. Yeah, I might bump them 01:43:56.454 --> 01:44:01.822 - up. I did the same amount as you actually for similar reasons that they were being bumped. 01:44:02.274 --> 01:44:09.080 - out of their existing. I think 40 is fair. I mean, it's just, because once again, you know, we've changed 01:44:09.080 --> 01:44:15.694 - the calculus on some of the stuff, but I try to give money to everyone that support us here except for 01:44:15.694 --> 01:44:22.243 - the two outliers that I mentioned already, so. You know, I also think to your point, there's a little 01:44:22.243 --> 01:44:28.665 - bit of harm reduction like requirement that we, I think we bear as a city for if, you know, I mean, 01:44:28.665 --> 01:44:30.334 - it's like, it's actually, 01:44:30.498 --> 01:44:37.573 - I don't know. I don't know if I should say this out loud, but, you know, we spent $15 million on that 01:44:37.573 --> 01:44:44.856 - thing and didn't think like, should we include in that $50 million like fees for things that are getting 01:44:44.856 --> 01:44:52.070 - displaced, right? Like I, like, yeah, compensation, my gosh. Like, and I kind of, I don't know. I just, 01:44:52.070 --> 01:44:59.422 - I don't know. There was nothing in it. Yeah. I mean, is it, yeah. And it's, I don't know. It's, it's, um, 01:44:59.746 --> 01:45:05.420 - I mean, something that became more evident. I don't know if it was just wasn't on that, like in the, 01:45:05.420 --> 01:45:10.982 - you know, in the way that we were discussing it and the way that council particularly works, it's, 01:45:10.982 --> 01:45:16.657 - you know, hard to bring in new things when, you know, based on what we discussed, what's in front of 01:45:16.657 --> 01:45:22.331 - us, right? But like, anyway, so, so just, uh, just a thought there that as we come back to it. Okay. 01:45:22.331 --> 01:45:28.286 - Good to keep in mind. Good points. New hope asked for 40,000. We have averaged just over 35,000 for them. 01:45:29.602 --> 01:45:36.019 - Nobody got a bone to pick with that. They didn't invite me to their ball, so I took $3,000 off. 01:45:36.019 --> 01:45:42.770 - All right. Good job. No, I'm joking. That is a joke. For the record, that was a joke. They were very 01:45:42.770 --> 01:45:49.656 - high, very high for me. Yeah. The free admission means that, you know, I didn't make it to this year's 01:45:49.656 --> 01:45:56.340 - event. I had something else going on, and I felt bad. I was like, oh, I don't have to try and check 01:45:56.340 --> 01:45:58.078 - this shit. Yeah. Awesome. 01:45:58.370 --> 01:46:06.912 - Okay, so they're in good shape, or I mean, we're in good shape with what we feel about that. All right, 01:46:06.912 --> 01:46:15.290 - New Leaf New Life, they requested 11,142. We've allocated just a little under 9,000. This was another 01:46:15.290 --> 01:46:23.503 - one that I had an issue with. I did fund them a bit, but I felt with their partnership application, 01:46:23.503 --> 01:46:27.774 - the courage to change, I felt like it was a lot of, 01:46:27.938 --> 01:46:38.912 - double difference, the same application, asking for the same stuff. It didn't seem terribly different 01:46:38.912 --> 01:46:49.886 - to me. So I funded them much lower on this one. I didn't talk about that at all. How do they all work 01:46:49.886 --> 01:46:56.126 - together, Eddie? I don't work pre-entry, so I don't know. 01:46:56.546 --> 01:47:05.089 - That's not my area of expertise. I would like to help with reentry. I support it. I just wish that it 01:47:05.089 --> 01:47:13.717 - hadn't felt like such a double dip to me. I don't know. I'm thinking about it now as you're saying it, 01:47:13.717 --> 01:47:22.595 - but it's like a continuum of care work. We wouldn't talk about beacon and new hope for families as double 01:47:22.595 --> 01:47:25.694 - dipping. No, but new leaf, new life, 01:47:26.082 --> 01:47:33.209 - applied for this and then they applied for another one in a partnership. Oh, you're talking about business 01:47:33.209 --> 01:47:39.937 - partnership. Yes. I see. I see. Both asks in both of those applications were essentially the same or 01:47:39.937 --> 01:47:46.931 - for the same thing, not same amounts. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't have a problem with funding 01:47:46.931 --> 01:47:53.592 - because I strongly support re-entry, but at the same time, I feel like this goes against our rules. 01:47:53.592 --> 01:47:55.390 - Well, the average of both. 01:47:55.746 --> 01:48:02.998 - uh, right now would be essentially their ask. Yeah. So it makes it a move point. Yeah. So we just leave 01:48:02.998 --> 01:48:10.040 - each of these averages. Well, here's a, here's a thing though. There's a, there's a huge, I'm sorry. 01:48:10.040 --> 01:48:16.455 - I wasn't tracking before. Um, so we, we just talked about Christian second, but we, um, uh, 01:48:16.455 --> 01:48:23.358 - there's a huge, uh, administrative burden to get, get an award. And so there's an argument to say, 01:48:23.618 --> 01:48:31.284 - don't award the second one and fully award the first one. So don't award the partnership one at all? 01:48:31.284 --> 01:48:39.178 - Just a thought. There's a whole extra set of paperwork, and it's a whole extra set of meeting, and it's 01:48:39.178 --> 01:48:46.997 - a whole extra set of time, and you know. How did we award Courage to Change? Didn't we just talk about 01:48:46.997 --> 01:48:52.158 - them earlier? Yeah, I'm just trying to remember what we settled on. 01:48:53.794 --> 01:49:01.202 - They were awarded much lower than we asked, that's right. Because that ask was very different from what 01:49:01.202 --> 01:49:08.396 - the partnership ask was. Right. And so, I mean, another thought then is that you could, because this 01:49:08.396 --> 01:49:15.733 - didn't come up when we, you know, you could, we could go, you know, so you could zero out this one and 01:49:15.733 --> 01:49:19.294 - then give more money to Kurtz to change directly. 01:49:20.994 --> 01:49:27.133 - something or something, some approach like that. But we're supposed to reward collaborations. Like that's... 01:49:27.133 --> 01:49:32.821 - Did we say that though? There's no word, where have we said that? I mean, it allows you to apply for 01:49:32.821 --> 01:49:38.452 - a second and a half. Well, right, but like, but like we haven't included it in any of our documents 01:49:38.452 --> 01:49:43.915 - that say like, we wish you would all, you know, work together or something like that. All right. 01:49:43.915 --> 01:49:47.294 - I can go, I mean, the amounts are small enough, I could go, 01:49:47.426 --> 01:49:52.790 - I mean, I'm not going to fight it. I just wanted to point out when you said we encourage them to do 01:49:52.790 --> 01:49:58.155 - it and also specifically say they are allowed to submit both. We encourage the committee encourages 01:49:58.155 --> 01:50:03.841 - social service agencies to collaborate just on practice on practice though. That's clearly not how people 01:50:03.841 --> 01:50:07.006 - are hearing this because we get so few collaborative ones. 01:50:08.002 --> 01:50:13.429 - by considering the amount of collaboration that's happening between these organizations and the amount 01:50:13.429 --> 01:50:18.750 - of them. Both of our conversations about collaborative projects, we're often down on them if they've 01:50:18.750 --> 01:50:24.072 - had another application. Yeah, no, you're right. So I wouldn't want to, I think it's a risk for them 01:50:24.072 --> 01:50:29.710 - to submit a collaborative project. Yeah, no, fair point. Yeah, no, my only problem with this collaborative 01:50:29.710 --> 01:50:35.137 - project is that they're asking for money for the same thing. This sounds redundant, yeah. It is, yeah. 01:50:35.137 --> 01:50:37.086 - It feels like we're asking for this, 01:50:37.570 --> 01:50:46.749 - again. So, but like I said, I'm, I'm not going to fight whatever you guys want to do with this. Like 01:50:46.749 --> 01:50:55.838 - I don't just keep it as it is then. Okay. And same thing with the, uh, partnership application, the 01:50:55.838 --> 01:51:04.926 - courage to change and release new life. Yeah. Okay. Great. Pantry two seven nine. They got almost a 01:51:05.890 --> 01:51:18.012 - Full funding, they asked for 12,000. We gave them just a little over 11,000. Everybody good there? We 01:51:18.012 --> 01:51:29.896 - like food. We like food. Pathways, Inc. Another one of our big asks, 50,000. We've averaged 43,134. 01:51:29.896 --> 01:51:35.006 - Everybody good with that? All right. Cool. 01:51:35.426 --> 01:51:52.948 - asked for $5,500. We've awarded them with our averages $1,581. You feeling good there? Yeah. Okay. Planned 01:51:52.948 --> 01:52:04.574 - Parenthood requested $7,500. We've allocated with our averages $6,236. 01:52:06.338 --> 01:52:12.252 - I kind of want to push for full funding for this one simply because when we've heard their representative 01:52:12.252 --> 01:52:18.109 - talk to us in the past, they've really emphasized how this is their only source of funding despite being 01:52:18.109 --> 01:52:24.079 - a national organization and multiple states being represented here. This is like one of their only sources 01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:30.104 - of funding for providing those services to our local population. And they don't really get it from anywhere 01:52:30.104 --> 01:52:34.846 - else. Well, I was a little confused because, I mean, I support the organization, but 01:52:36.194 --> 01:52:43.391 - but is it going to be applied locally? Yes, it's just going to go to around here. They said that. I 01:52:43.391 --> 01:52:50.804 - don't think you were on this a couple of years ago when they spoke, but that question came up. We were 01:52:50.804 --> 01:52:58.216 - concerned. Well, I'll put an asterisk there and we can revisit it. I don't know where that accent came 01:52:58.216 --> 01:53:03.614 - from. I was in one-on-one with my boss today. Some sentence came out like, 01:53:03.714 --> 01:53:12.597 - real New York, New Jersey. And I was like, whoa, who am I? Silver Linings actually withdrew 01:53:12.597 --> 01:53:22.446 - their application. So that gives us another. Okay, super. So then our total will look very different. 01:53:22.446 --> 01:53:30.654 - Yeah. So now we have more money back in the kitty. Sober Mesa, they requested 10,000 01:53:30.818 --> 01:53:40.620 - We're giving them just a little over 50% according to our average 5,193. I'm okay with that. How does 01:53:40.620 --> 01:53:50.999 - everybody else feel? Dave does not feel good about that. I don't think it's a huge ask. I actually expected 01:53:50.999 --> 01:53:57.726 - more applicants for growers and this is really, I think the only one. 01:53:58.562 --> 01:54:07.903 - globally growing food. So I just had a couple of notes. So it provides food for low income. The farm 01:54:07.903 --> 01:54:17.892 - I visited many times, the Daisy Garden University Farm. And it's been worked really well by the university, 01:54:17.892 --> 01:54:27.326 - by James Farmer. So the soils are optimal. So I would expect a very good amount of food, large yield. 01:54:27.554 --> 01:54:34.727 - The food is fresh vegetables. When I used to farm, you know, taking excess crops to Hoosier Hill's food 01:54:34.727 --> 01:54:42.039 - bank, that was oftentimes what they didn't have was fresh vegetables, which, you know, people are lacking 01:54:42.039 --> 01:54:49.005 - in diet. And then I think it's important to build skills so that, you know, people can learn to grow 01:54:49.005 --> 01:54:51.902 - their own food. I think that's a valuable 01:54:52.002 --> 01:54:59.203 - skill that could be learned and self-sufficiency. So I'd be willing to change mine, because tell me 01:54:59.203 --> 01:55:06.404 - something, because just based on what you're describing, I might have misunderstood how their model 01:55:06.404 --> 01:55:13.605 - works. Do they do any direct services or are they mostly supplying to pantries, et cetera? Are they 01:55:13.605 --> 01:55:21.022 - teaching folks? They're teaching folks on site. They're highly skilled farmers. They own permaculture. 01:55:21.282 --> 01:55:29.151 - You know, I would expect they would do very well. I was surprised they didn't ask for more. But specifically 01:55:29.151 --> 01:55:36.587 - the Access for Low Income Families, the Food Access for Low Income Families project. Yes. Is that them 01:55:36.587 --> 01:55:43.807 - just giving food to Patrick 279, Hoosier Hills, and Monroe County Kitchen? And the participants. My 01:55:43.807 --> 01:55:49.438 - impression was the people who actually come and learn the skills on site. OK. 01:55:51.874 --> 01:55:57.953 - That was the only thing that knocked them down for me, which is, which, which was like, but you know, 01:55:57.953 --> 01:56:04.032 - as I'm thinking about it as like, because, but also because we have that question of this is director 01:56:04.032 --> 01:56:09.991 - indirect. And then, so then by virtue of that, it ends up being indirect. Um, so I think this would 01:56:09.991 --> 01:56:14.878 - have been high if not for that and really low cost, a lot of people affected, um, 01:56:15.874 --> 01:56:22.553 - you know, small organization, new organization, it's food. So I would have given it fudge points. So 01:56:22.553 --> 01:56:29.496 - I think revisiting, if I were to change the indirect to direct and revisiting it with this, then I would 01:56:29.496 --> 01:56:36.638 - have probably close to fully funded them as well. I think that this is like a really interesting prototype. 01:56:37.186 --> 01:56:45.212 - But they're asking us, but there's the organization and there's what they're asking us to fund. What 01:56:45.212 --> 01:56:53.318 - they asked us to fund is the giving food to the pantry's part, unless I misunderstood it. Yes. That's 01:56:53.318 --> 01:57:01.504 - where we have to be in the rubric when we say, is that still direct? Is that direct or indirect is the 01:57:01.504 --> 01:57:04.126 - question. I think that sometimes 01:57:04.354 --> 01:57:11.683 - or a lot of these becomes this part of the subjectiveness of the rubric. Yeah. Is it, so tell me like, 01:57:11.683 --> 01:57:19.011 - I said, I said, yes, indirect. You said indirect. What did you say, Eddie? It was indirect for me, but 01:57:19.011 --> 01:57:26.197 - if I made it direct, then it, I mean, it bumps them up to where silver linings was. That's my point. 01:57:26.197 --> 01:57:28.830 - So, so, so, so let's, so let's like, 01:57:29.122 --> 01:57:36.995 - Let's agree on whether this is direct or indirect, because if we said the Pantry 279 funding is direct, 01:57:36.995 --> 01:57:44.944 - then so should this be direct, right? Is there a fair argument for that? I don't have a problem defining 01:57:44.944 --> 01:57:52.589 - it that way. That's fine with me. My score is different inside of my rubric for some reason, because 01:57:52.589 --> 01:57:58.494 - I did recommend them, which would change their average. I recommended 10,000. 01:57:59.746 --> 01:58:05.749 - I mean, I had given them 75%. And because they were a low score for me, I didn't give anything, 01:58:05.749 --> 01:58:12.128 - but I mean, if this changes my rubric, then I would at least give 50%. I mean, we've taken some money 01:58:12.128 --> 01:58:18.131 - back from some places and I do want to help feed people. And this is one of those things where, 01:58:18.131 --> 01:58:24.510 - you know, teaching people, not just feeding them, they're teaching people how to feed themselves. So. 01:58:25.410 --> 01:58:34.483 - Well, if I change mine to direct as well, and when you change yours, Cameron. Yeah, that just helped 01:58:34.483 --> 01:58:43.555 - out quite a bit. But you didn't fund them at all? I didn't fund them at all, because they scored low 01:58:43.555 --> 01:58:51.550 - for me. But if you change it to direct, then it's at least 50% of what they're asked is. 01:58:52.482 --> 01:59:01.584 - I actually said indirect to him, but I wish. Based on the conversation we're having before, I mean, 01:59:01.584 --> 01:59:11.051 - this is where, again, a rubric is helpful because it helped us protect ourselves from a bunch of biases 01:59:11.051 --> 01:59:15.966 - we had. But I'm swayed that, you know. So my thinking 01:59:16.226 --> 01:59:23.007 - I'm familiar with these guys just in so far as I remember when they came to town and set up and had 01:59:23.007 --> 01:59:29.788 - been working and they're really dedicated to teaching people to grow food. So they know they can do 01:59:29.788 --> 01:59:36.840 - it. And to me, the potential of this is huge. Like if you get this prototype working with a lot of food 01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:41.790 - production, it could really help the food banks plus teach people how to 01:59:42.146 --> 01:59:50.074 - and maybe it could be replicated elsewhere. So I just saw it as kind of a good experiment, I suppose, 01:59:50.074 --> 01:59:57.925 - in a way. But I mean, we're getting close to what they want. But I would argue for the full funding. 01:59:57.925 --> 02:00:05.698 - But if people want to knock it down, I mean, I don't know. Well, it's disastrous, this one as well. 02:00:05.698 --> 02:00:10.206 - But at least we fixed some of it. I mean, that's helpful. 02:00:11.586 --> 02:00:18.419 - I think it's worth I think it's worth thinking about. We're going to we're pretty much in agreement 02:00:18.419 --> 02:00:25.252 - that like Hoosier Hills Food Bank Community Kitchen that are actually providing the food. That's we 02:00:25.252 --> 02:00:32.222 - say that's direct emergency services. And but we wouldn't say that providing those places the food to 02:00:32.222 --> 02:00:38.782 - them. Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm comfortable with it. I mean, yeah. 02:00:39.298 --> 02:00:46.204 - Especially if there was a collaborative real relationship. I mean, when we had our when I was a farmer, 02:00:46.204 --> 02:00:52.844 - we allocated space for Hoosier Hills to grow food there. Right. So they had volunteers come out and 02:00:52.844 --> 02:00:59.816 - actually grow food. And that could be part of the formula in the future to anyway. OK, super. All right. 02:00:59.816 --> 02:01:06.522 - Well, thank you, everybody. That was good. So we'll come back to that one, too. Stone Belt requested 02:01:06.522 --> 02:01:07.518 - five thousand. 02:01:08.674 --> 02:01:17.173 - Oh, what happened? It had been at 7,000. My numbers were wrong. I was like, how did we allocate them 02:01:17.173 --> 02:01:25.672 - more money? Okay. So now we're down to 3,196 for Stone Belt. I gave them full funding. So, so though 02:01:25.672 --> 02:01:34.172 - I have them high, but the thing that if we're looking at a rubric, they're high because they got the 02:01:34.172 --> 02:01:37.790 - funding points from me at a rubric though. 02:01:38.434 --> 02:01:47.226 - They have, they're a large institution. True. And with a lot of, with capacity for staffing. So they 02:01:47.226 --> 02:01:56.280 - couldn't be very high. Yeah. I mean, I'm fine with, with this number that we're at. I don't have strong 02:01:56.280 --> 02:02:05.246 - feelings to change this. I was just telling you what I had done. Anybody have strong feelings? I mean, 02:02:06.498 --> 02:02:13.381 - It ranked low on my rubric. And also they make the same mask every year, which I feel like is something 02:02:13.381 --> 02:02:20.066 - that's hard to be actively discourage that. But when parents do the same thing, but I just feel like 02:02:20.066 --> 02:02:26.684 - it's, I don't know. Yeah. I'm going to step out for this mental discussion. Oh, okay. All right. So 02:02:26.684 --> 02:02:31.582 - we'll leave Stone Belt as it is. We'll wait until Nidhi's out of earshot. 02:02:33.986 --> 02:02:44.062 - So Summit Hill Community Development Corporation, they requested $24,980. We have averaged $16,930. 02:02:44.062 --> 02:02:54.340 - Wait, we've not. This is wrong. This is wrong. This should remove Eddie's zero. Oh, right. So Eddie's 02:02:54.340 --> 02:03:03.006 - zero is Q, what is that, Q36? Is that right? Yes. And that should be divided by five. 02:03:03.778 --> 02:03:10.326 - There you go. Ah, much better number. Okay. Wow. Yep. Everybody feel good about that one? Yep. Uh, 02:03:10.326 --> 02:03:17.139 - it's 20, right? Yeah, that's right. The only thing I don't feel good about is the fact that this isn't 02:03:17.139 --> 02:03:23.753 - all or nothing. Like this was the vehicle where it feels like we're going to fund the vehicle, fund 02:03:23.753 --> 02:03:30.632 - the vehicle. And I thought she had said in the, when she was here that there would be okay with partial 02:03:30.632 --> 02:03:32.286 - funding. Did we not ask? 02:03:32.930 --> 02:03:40.474 - that and she was like, yeah. Well, the application, they said pump up. Oh, did they? Yeah. I think she 02:03:40.474 --> 02:03:47.652 - just said that she thought that she could get wiggle room potentially in the rooms or in the buy. 02:03:47.652 --> 02:03:55.049 - But I mean, I would advocate for saying, here's what we've awarded you do with it, what you can, and 02:03:55.049 --> 02:03:56.734 - I hope you can use it. 02:03:57.122 --> 02:04:03.289 - Maybe let's, maybe let's asterisk them and come back. Cause it's like, we still have money, right? I 02:04:03.289 --> 02:04:09.456 - think importantly and, but your, but to your point, adding 4,000 here, if we give them full, then we 02:04:09.456 --> 02:04:15.684 - don't have money. Right. Right. Yeah. Cause well, and with all these asterisks we're putting up here, 02:04:15.684 --> 02:04:21.851 - we've actually used up more money. Right. There's only, there's only one asterisk where we, where we 02:04:21.851 --> 02:04:27.102 - were willing to reduce so far. Yeah. I mean, we can put an asterisk here and revisit. 02:04:27.874 --> 02:04:36.037 - Either that or Cameron, would you say that we then don't award at all or. No, how would you go? Okay. 02:04:36.037 --> 02:04:44.121 - So you're advocating for all. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, yeah, I feel like we should go full, but that's 02:04:44.121 --> 02:04:52.124 - just. Okay. I mean, we have a high, very high, very high. Um, uh, and the all gave, you know, 21 K. 02:04:52.124 --> 02:04:56.446 - So, uh, I wouldn't object if you made it higher, but. 02:04:57.538 --> 02:05:04.275 - But I'm also not going to advocate for. Yeah, I had given lower. I had given. This is like where then 02:05:04.275 --> 02:05:10.880 - it comes, it goes back to what Eddie was saying before, where like, just big brothers, big sisters. 02:05:10.880 --> 02:05:17.683 - And then I'm like, well, now it's impacting something. I feel like actually. All right. So, well, this 02:05:17.683 --> 02:05:21.118 - is going to be tricky coming back to it with Eddie. 02:05:22.658 --> 02:05:29.182 - So we're going to have to go through the other. You can go out again. I know. That's going to be a little 02:05:29.182 --> 02:05:35.398 - trickier, but we'll have to save this one for last and then ask him to step back. Okay. I'll go tell 02:05:35.398 --> 02:05:41.553 - him he can come back in. I'm going to talk to him. I hate it when these chairs do that. Okay. Yeah. 02:05:41.553 --> 02:05:47.892 - Like they, they, they give you the support and then this suddenly they don't. No more support for you. 02:05:47.892 --> 02:05:49.246 - I was the old chairs. 02:05:50.018 --> 02:05:59.069 - I like these chairs so much. I like how they lean back, I am. I come to myself in my office chair trying 02:05:59.069 --> 02:06:08.378 - to lean back like this all the time. I'm like, oh, he doesn't lean back more than I do. This is unfortunate 02:06:08.378 --> 02:06:17.342 - because I'm so tall. I hate sitting like this at a council meeting. It makes it look like I'm lounging. 02:06:17.506 --> 02:06:25.620 - You know, I'm like, I just need, I don't want to sit like this for six hours. That's why sometimes I 02:06:25.620 --> 02:06:33.814 - stand in the middle of the meeting and just lean on my chair. I'm like, I have to stretch my back and 02:06:33.814 --> 02:06:42.168 - my legs. Okay. Tandem requested 50,000. We gave them 35 or 16 in our average. Um, any thoughts on this? 02:06:42.168 --> 02:06:47.390 - I mean, they were the only one I fully funded. I was the lowest. 02:06:47.682 --> 02:06:54.819 - because it seemed to me that if it was anyone could participate, right? It wasn't just for low income. 02:06:54.819 --> 02:07:02.026 - So is that my- But that was one of the perks is that it was like mixed income, mixed resources, so that 02:07:02.026 --> 02:07:09.233 - way they were able to support each other financially, but also- And then they don't have the- With like 02:07:09.233 --> 02:07:14.430 - child care. Yeah. Kind of like the housing policy wise, like mixed income. 02:07:14.594 --> 02:07:21.503 - Yeah, I see that. The space is for everybody. Yeah, but any of the supplies, you know, they're not giving 02:07:21.503 --> 02:07:28.152 - it to people. That's right. Like, I mean, like for like, for example, like my, my kids go to lay time 02:07:28.152 --> 02:07:35.322 - at tandem. We don't take free diapers from tandem. We give a lot of things. Oh, you have personal experience. 02:07:35.322 --> 02:07:40.862 - Yeah. I mean, like, okay. But like, but I'm just saying like the, you know, there's, 02:07:42.210 --> 02:07:49.392 - that the mixed income part of this, but I'll say why I funded them highly is because I know that they're 02:07:49.392 --> 02:07:56.301 - just under, this is sort of like a make or break time for them. And so my thinking is that this is a 02:07:56.301 --> 02:08:03.279 - key resource for the community. What they've written here passes the rubric well for me. I mean, many 02:08:03.279 --> 02:08:10.187 - of us had them highly ranked, but I just, the reason I just sort of gave them the most sludge points 02:08:10.187 --> 02:08:11.966 - for anybody is just like, 02:08:12.162 --> 02:08:17.426 - It's like emergency for the organization that if the organization left would create a lot of problems 02:08:17.426 --> 02:08:22.948 - for a lot of, you know, very similar reasons why we, why the Planned Parenthood, why some of these others, 02:08:22.948 --> 02:08:27.903 - like, it's, it's a critical need for a lot of people in the community and it could be for more. 02:08:27.903 --> 02:08:33.115 - And so I, I'm just sort of feeling like, you know, you give them the funding to keep them stabilized 02:08:33.115 --> 02:08:35.902 - and hopes that they can, you know, leverage that too. 02:08:36.002 --> 02:08:42.573 - they were gonna shut, right, so. It's an important service, there's no doubt, and you've changed my 02:08:42.573 --> 02:08:49.341 - mind that it should, that I lowballed it, would it be considered an emergency service? That's the only 02:08:49.341 --> 02:08:55.911 - part that I, that's where I fudged. I mean, I would say that the, you know. That you gave them full 02:08:55.911 --> 02:09:02.942 - funding. Correct, because, I mean, what I think they, what I think they're doing is an urgent social need. 02:09:03.938 --> 02:09:10.123 - You know, and I, and I raised a similar question earlier. It's like, okay, yeah, but is this like emergency 02:09:10.123 --> 02:09:16.079 - and like the, you know, life or death sense? I think probably not. I mean, there, but it's an emergency 02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:21.978 - for the organization. That's where I fudged. Do you want to argue as part of in how women go into deep 02:09:21.978 --> 02:09:27.876 - depression? Yeah. Actually, I mean, it could be life and death and the type of program is an emergency 02:09:27.876 --> 02:09:33.374 - program for a lot of folks that can't afford diapers. I, they, they sport medium for me, but I, 02:09:33.570 --> 02:09:41.396 - My agency is a partner entity in them. I've funded stuff through SCAP for them. I'm a big believer in 02:09:41.396 --> 02:09:48.915 - them. I would give more money than the 30,000 that I allocated, but it's, you know, I definitely, 02:09:48.915 --> 02:09:56.894 - I mean, I'm an advocate for them. I don't know my name. I don't know much about that. What did you say? 02:09:56.894 --> 02:10:02.878 - Julie called me out and was like, you work for nonprofit. You know how it is. 02:10:03.106 --> 02:10:11.219 - I'm happy where we are, though. Yeah, I've funded a lot higher, but I'm okay with this. Well, it's 35 02:10:11.219 --> 02:10:19.570 - because of my low number. I'm happy to go up. We can answer it, but at the end of the day, we're talking 02:10:19.570 --> 02:10:25.694 - about $4,000 left. I think there was only one organization. I mean, the only 02:10:26.306 --> 02:10:33.354 - Yeah, there's nobody else that we've gone through that we're like, oh, we could lower this. Yeah, but 02:10:33.354 --> 02:10:40.265 - that was like, that's the only one that we mentioned. Right. And so, and it's, I mean, I'd be happy 02:10:40.265 --> 02:10:47.313 - to go back to how much did we give them? Oh, okay. So, okay. I'm happy where it is. Yeah. So, I mean, 02:10:47.313 --> 02:10:51.390 - but, I mean, but if we wanted to, if you wanted to reduce, 02:10:51.490 --> 02:10:58.757 - But I think Dave was pretty clear that he didn't want to reduce that dramatically for big brother, 02:10:58.757 --> 02:11:06.097 - big sister. So that was the only one that we said we could reduce. Every other asterisk is a go on, 02:11:06.097 --> 02:11:13.437 - right? So I'm just like, I think we have to, you know. All right. Yeah, I mean, I'm OK with leaving 02:11:13.437 --> 02:11:20.190 - this. I'd like to give them more, but I don't think we can, unfortunately, find that money. 02:11:21.666 --> 02:11:32.335 - So, I say, we leave as is Hendrix doing business as Susie's place child. They asked for forty eight 02:11:32.335 --> 02:11:43.751 - thousand three or four. We average thirty seven thousand one ninety six. Did anybody have any big thoughts 02:11:43.751 --> 02:11:50.046 - on this one? Okay, so I feel like we could get them. Yeah. 02:11:50.178 --> 02:12:00.736 - Yeah, exactly. Wheeler Mission, we came pretty close with them. They asked for 6,460. Our average was 02:12:00.736 --> 02:12:11.294 - 6,113. Everybody good there? And then Wonder Lab, that one was quite a big discrepancy from what they 02:12:11.294 --> 02:12:19.678 - asked for. We funded, or they asked for 14,115. We funded 4,488 in our averages. 02:12:20.290 --> 02:12:29.616 - Um, I feel like this is kind of a story every year. You know, I, I talked to Andy about this afterward 02:12:29.616 --> 02:12:39.576 - and he, I see he gave them zero. Um, Cameron, you gave them zero. I gave them seven and, you know, reflecting 02:12:39.576 --> 02:12:47.454 - on this, I'm, I'm thinking I gave too much because I just don't see it as a, you know, 02:12:47.586 --> 02:12:56.220 - A real hyper, I mean, it's a wonderful thing, obviously, it's wonderful. But it's, yeah, Andy, you made 02:12:56.220 --> 02:13:04.687 - the case. Yeah. Well, and I'd say let's take some of it and give it to Tandem. You know, I'm just not 02:13:04.687 --> 02:13:13.238 - sure that I think I made this is one of the ones where I actually made a comment. What was my comment? 02:13:13.238 --> 02:13:15.230 - It was about, you know, 02:13:15.714 --> 02:13:25.056 - their marginal cost for an additional visitor, their operating expenses seem unaffected. If they want 02:13:25.056 --> 02:13:34.763 - to let low-income people or special needs people, whatever folks in, then I just don't see the connection 02:13:34.763 --> 02:13:44.013 - between it being an additional significant additional cost to them. It's not emergency, clearly. I'd 02:13:44.013 --> 02:13:45.662 - feel better about 02:13:45.794 --> 02:13:53.720 - taken some of this of what our average here and given it to tandem. Bye. I fought for the MAR last year, 02:13:53.720 --> 02:14:01.345 - but when I was reflecting this year, just where they ended up with my rubric again, I believe in it. 02:14:01.345 --> 02:14:08.894 - I believe in what they're doing, but it didn't fall under the emergency services. I think last year 02:14:08.894 --> 02:14:14.782 - was still a self-survise. I will say they're one of my lowest ranked for just 02:14:14.882 --> 02:14:24.677 - because of the size of their ads, I ended up giving them 5,000. I'll say two things. One is that I upped 02:14:24.677 --> 02:14:34.192 - Sober Mesa based on our conversation, which means that I now over-allocated funding. So I have to cut 02:14:34.192 --> 02:14:43.614 - 4,300 roughly, and I probably would cut it from Wonder Lab, or my other three was Courage to Change. 02:14:43.778 --> 02:14:53.251 - If I cut this down to 1,800, sorry, 1,700, it's actually not 1,600. You can zero mine out actually as, 02:14:53.251 --> 02:15:02.540 - I mean, I don't know if you want to do that because you want to give me something, but I'm convinced 02:15:02.540 --> 02:15:07.230 - that, you know, of Andy's argument actually. Yeah. 02:15:07.394 --> 02:15:16.056 - But Eddie, you gave them seven, so I don't want to undercut. Actually, Courtney, you did. I gave them 02:15:16.056 --> 02:15:24.888 - seven, but I did feel strongly about it. In fact, I didn't really believe in the seven. I was just kind 02:15:24.888 --> 02:15:33.465 - of following my general rule that I had been set in 50%. But I remember in past years, I didn't want 02:15:33.465 --> 02:15:34.654 - to fund this. 02:15:34.946 --> 02:15:42.438 - I didn't think it was a good use of Jack Hopkins money. And I didn't feel good about funding him this 02:15:42.438 --> 02:15:50.004 - year, but I did because I know we, we have before him. So, so after maybe this zeroed them out, right. 02:15:50.004 --> 02:15:57.644 - They've, yeah. So if we do that, oh, you would too. Okay. Well, now it's going after going through what 02:15:57.644 --> 02:16:03.006 - we have and you know, some, some of the stuff wasn't funded as robustly. 02:16:03.330 --> 02:16:09.386 - that I wanted or whatever. And then that doesn't have to change, but there are other organizations that 02:16:09.386 --> 02:16:15.209 - need this money more. So I'm fine with zeroing right now. Yeah. I mean, it's always the comparison, 02:16:15.209 --> 02:16:21.033 - right? Yeah. Postpartum support and food and things like that. I mean, I'm sure I'd like to support 02:16:21.033 --> 02:16:26.972 - them, but... So everybody's wanting to zero out? I'm fine with zeroing. I'm okay with doing the zero. 02:16:26.972 --> 02:16:28.894 - Cameron, are you okay with that? 02:16:29.378 --> 02:16:40.983 - But that means like last year, one organization we don't fund. No, we also didn't fund in other words. 02:16:40.983 --> 02:16:52.587 - Yeah. Yeah. I'm just sad, but I will, I will. One thing for us to be mindful of our bias here a little 02:16:52.587 --> 02:16:55.742 - bit, because last year too, 02:16:55.970 --> 02:17:01.620 - It has just so happened that the last organization was the one, was the one we did a fund. And I just 02:17:01.620 --> 02:17:07.160 - think that we may have a cognitive leaning towards, you know, like we didn't need to zero them out. 02:17:07.160 --> 02:17:12.921 - We could have given them the average like we did for everybody else. And then, and then still had money 02:17:12.921 --> 02:17:18.461 - left over. And then, you know, so, so I'm just, I just want to make sure that we're, that we're not 02:17:18.461 --> 02:17:24.222 - feeling like we need to, you know, like you get, you know what I'm saying? Like I do. I do. I, I don't. 02:17:24.930 --> 02:17:31.510 - I don't think I feel that way, you know. Okay. But then, but then to be clear, we all should, we should 02:17:31.510 --> 02:17:38.090 - go back and check our rubrics. So like mine, like I said, mine was the lowest on my rubric. So, so it's 02:17:38.090 --> 02:17:44.670 - consistent with me saying they shouldn't get anybody, but some of you have them higher on your rubrics. 02:17:45.538 --> 02:17:51.953 - So is there something like, well, I changed my rubric for sobering mess up because of the conversation, 02:17:51.953 --> 02:17:58.184 - right? Which changed their score, which justifies the allocation, but I don't think it's fair for us 02:17:58.184 --> 02:18:04.044 - to say, actually they're high, but we're not going to fund them. So this was one of my lowest, 02:18:04.044 --> 02:18:10.274 - it was 6.5. So why don't we go through the list and see the asterisks and we find organizations that 02:18:10.274 --> 02:18:13.790 - I don't serve a similar population, Boys and Girls Club, 02:18:14.114 --> 02:18:22.210 - big brothers and big sisters. And if we want to tease out some money from those organizations that serve 02:18:22.210 --> 02:18:30.074 - that population, we could, but I'm fine with, I mean, yeah, it's a shame that they're the last on the 02:18:30.074 --> 02:18:37.862 - list and it could be perceived that way. At the same time, it's just after hearing some of the other 02:18:37.862 --> 02:18:42.334 - stuff, I think that there's more important things to fund 02:18:42.466 --> 02:18:51.892 - I'm just making sure that you don't go through and edit your rubrics if necessary, because they only 02:18:51.892 --> 02:19:01.318 - got a three of my rubric. I see some of you with sevens. I think it's important for us to be able to 02:19:01.318 --> 02:19:06.078 - say, some things just don't meet the threshold for 02:19:06.594 --> 02:19:12.280 - the purpose of the fun. And I agree. I agree. But I think that I do think we have to be mindful of, 02:19:12.280 --> 02:19:18.079 - you know, the same way that, you know, we were talking about hotels for hope. Like, I think that some 02:19:18.079 --> 02:19:23.764 - of these things we maybe should bring up before we take them to the second round, you know, and and 02:19:23.764 --> 02:19:29.620 - I just I'm not saying that so much for this year as much as, you know, you know, I've been saying this 02:19:29.620 --> 02:19:31.326 - all night. Like, I just think 02:19:31.522 --> 02:19:36.687 - You know, the integrity of a process matters matters. So, because later people go, Hey, why didn't you 02:19:36.687 --> 02:19:41.952 - fund it? And we go, well, we, you know, but, but if we talk through it and we're saying, look, actually, 02:19:41.952 --> 02:19:47.017 - this as we did, I think we just, we had the conversation. It's clearly in the record, but, you know, 02:19:47.017 --> 02:19:52.734 - if I, if I was not funded, I was able to show me your rubrics. And then I see everybody gave me a seven and then. 02:19:52.834 --> 02:19:59.261 - Yeah, but the rubric is the only indicator it's just used in conjunction with. Exactly. Exactly. So, 02:19:59.261 --> 02:20:05.752 - so I'm just, I'm just saying it for the good of the, you know, I have to suspend judgment until I get 02:20:05.752 --> 02:20:12.306 - full information. And that's what I get from people informing me, which has a dramatic effect in terms 02:20:12.306 --> 02:20:15.870 - of changing your real time. So that way that what's on. 02:20:16.130 --> 02:20:21.917 - is reflected above where you said. It's just kind of a first approximation that we're making. Yeah, 02:20:21.917 --> 02:20:27.762 - that's fair. I mean, that's fair. So when people say, well, why not? Because you can score it. Well, 02:20:27.762 --> 02:20:33.549 - and then that's why we have our next meeting in, what, two weeks to finalize this. If you have time 02:20:33.549 --> 02:20:39.394 - to walk away and think about it. That's fine. And go, you know what? I did say I would go along with 02:20:39.394 --> 02:20:45.470 - the zero, but now I don't necessarily. So this isn't our final answer for tonight. But it's close. Yeah. 02:20:46.498 --> 02:20:57.859 - So now we've made our way through all of them, and we are left with about 10,750-ish left. On the ones 02:20:57.859 --> 02:21:09.662 - that we start, I'm going to write our delta, just so you can get a sense based on what they asked for. OK. 02:21:19.970 --> 02:21:28.138 - why do that? I'm sorry, that's stupid. So with the discrepancy? We can just see that. I don't have an 02:21:28.138 --> 02:21:36.386 - outbreak. But I mean, that's a good point for number seven there for big brothers, big sisters. That's 02:21:36.386 --> 02:21:44.714 - the one that we were saying we could look at more. That was the one that we did talk about saying, hey, 02:21:44.714 --> 02:21:49.438 - maybe we'll do less. Now, how are we thinking about making 02:21:50.818 --> 02:21:58.059 - these adjustments? What is our approach, our philosophy for reconsidering? So for example, this is the 02:21:58.059 --> 02:22:05.370 - only one that we're looking at possibly lowering. Are we looking at then, hey, look at these other ones 02:22:05.370 --> 02:22:12.541 - that we said, you know, look at how many asterisks we have. We might want to, how strongly do we feel 02:22:12.541 --> 02:22:16.126 - about giving them more money? How much more money? 02:22:16.290 --> 02:22:22.685 - Okay. Well, what if we went to the ones that we by and large had a, had a very high ranking for, like 02:22:22.685 --> 02:22:29.017 - where at least, you know, three people had them as very high, something like that. And then like, we 02:22:29.017 --> 02:22:35.286 - start with those and see if we can get them closer to their, cause like some of these are asterisks 02:22:35.286 --> 02:22:41.681 - because it was just like so close to what they asked for. Right. So like, you know, it was community, 02:22:41.681 --> 02:22:44.126 - community kitchen were worth $400 off. 02:22:44.514 --> 02:22:54.808 - and it's very high for many of us. See what I'm saying? Yep. I'm looking at my rubric so I can see. 02:22:54.808 --> 02:23:05.204 - Or I could also, if we just did something simple in terms of points, let me do something here. Okay. 02:23:05.204 --> 02:23:11.998 - So give me just a second to do it. Okay. So on our average score, 02:23:16.258 --> 02:23:26.154 - doesn't matter, but the average score. We can sum the scores. I was just going to say, I was thinking 02:23:26.154 --> 02:23:35.857 - if we could do the high, like, you know, give low one, low medium a two, like just, just go up like 02:23:35.857 --> 02:23:46.238 - that. But then some of us didn't put it. That's why, that's why we couldn't think about this. Okay, sorry. 02:23:47.010 --> 02:23:56.323 - We'll just do the spot check, I guess then. So we're on. So like, starting at the first asterisk, which 02:23:56.323 --> 02:24:05.278 - just happens to be the brothers, the sisters. I don't want you guys to think I'm just going for the 02:24:05.278 --> 02:24:14.323 - sisters. But so you can just look at that one. Four out of five of us ranked them as many young. And 02:24:14.323 --> 02:24:16.830 - so then it's like, and then 02:24:19.106 --> 02:24:28.117 - I mean, that's the one that was somewhat skewed, right? Like you have, and again, I mean, I'd rank them 02:24:28.117 --> 02:24:37.301 - as a three and use that same argument to zero out Wonderlab. You have them as a 7.5, but still as medium. 02:24:37.301 --> 02:24:46.312 - You have them as a medium and zeroed out. You have them as an eight, but as a medium. Then it was, Dave 02:24:46.312 --> 02:24:48.478 - has them as a very high. 02:24:49.890 --> 02:24:59.276 - You know, I, you know, when I take a 30,000 foot view, I, I'm, I'm most interested in food shelter. 02:24:59.276 --> 02:25:08.944 - Yeah. Uh, you know, people, psychological support recovery, vulnerable children, um, things like that. 02:25:08.944 --> 02:25:18.142 - Um, so, you know, if I were to divvy up the, what is it? 10,000 left. Yeah. I would just sort of. 02:25:18.274 --> 02:25:30.706 - look at it in that regard, I would be willing to go lower in terms of, where were we? 14. 14, yeah. 02:25:30.706 --> 02:25:43.262 - So I would be willing to go, I'm comfortable with 14, but I would go lower than my very high 20,000. 02:25:47.522 --> 02:25:53.990 - if we want to allocate it to something that is really of need. What should we look at the others first 02:25:53.990 --> 02:26:00.333 - and come back to this to see what? Because it seems fairly clear. Like, start a community kitchen is 02:26:00.333 --> 02:26:06.990 - easy. Like, we should fund them completely. I'm cool with that. Right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I just, can I change 02:26:06.990 --> 02:26:13.584 - it? Should I change it in the average ways? I don't know. Let's actually put it in the recommended space 02:26:13.584 --> 02:26:16.222 - so we don't mess up what we're doing. OK. 02:26:16.418 --> 02:26:29.715 - And that's fine. Excuse me. I think Exodus was another one that was a very high sort of power high across 02:26:29.715 --> 02:26:42.133 - the board. Yeah, it was high. Or like $6,000 off there. Well, actually, I read a little more, but. 02:26:42.133 --> 02:26:46.398 - I mean, I funded them at $17,000. 02:26:48.514 --> 02:26:58.265 - And do you want to say, see what happens if we fund them full and where we go from there? Or maybe let's 02:26:58.265 --> 02:27:07.645 - find the other easy ones. I mean, so that's a big, that's a big difference. The food bank is another 02:27:07.645 --> 02:27:18.046 - one is this 1,100 off. Yeah. Food is a good, um, can you make the column AC, uh, money column? And then we had, 02:27:18.626 --> 02:27:29.733 - My sister's closet was a big difference. So that one, I don't think had super high. I mean, I rented 02:27:29.733 --> 02:27:32.702 - it a medium. I don't know. 02:27:46.786 --> 02:28:06.264 - Planned Parenthood was another one that was close. That's the next one. That would be nice to bump them 02:28:06.264 --> 02:28:11.134 - up a little bit at least. 02:28:21.762 --> 02:28:33.644 - What are we thinking for Sober Mesa? There's a difference of 2000. Eddie, you had zero. What would you? 02:28:33.644 --> 02:28:45.183 - Yeah. So according to how I score things, with the new score, I now have that $6,000 for them. So if 02:28:45.183 --> 02:28:49.182 - that's reported in the cumulative, 02:28:50.562 --> 02:29:01.061 - You don't mind if I, if I just sort of these by the stars real quick. Sure. So what, you know, that 02:29:01.061 --> 02:29:11.875 - way it's 6,000 is way more than the zero that initially. There you go. So now you're starting to talk. 02:29:11.875 --> 02:29:18.174 - Oh, no. What happened? Oh, oh, nevermind. I was looking at. 02:29:19.074 --> 02:29:29.246 - Now the recommend column has some numbers in it, where it's not starred, but I see what's happening. 02:29:29.246 --> 02:29:39.519 - There you go, yeah. Okay, so with the changes we've done so far, with the stars, just three stars, we 02:29:39.519 --> 02:29:44.958 - are now at, oh, we don't have an addition, thank you. 02:29:47.554 --> 02:29:57.349 - Also, you didn't make the changes. You wrote them in the block, didn't you? In the recommend. 02:29:57.349 --> 02:30:08.186 - There we are. Okay. Oh, right. But that's why it's so much lower. I was like, how much do we have left? 02:30:08.186 --> 02:30:14.334 - So they're like counting to zeros when they're not at all. 02:30:17.762 --> 02:30:27.057 - If, um, so did you want to make sober Mesa full? No, well, I mean, I think I was suggesting six thousand 02:30:27.057 --> 02:30:36.175 - would change. If you were looking at sober Mesa, we're at seven, seven eight. Uh, yeah. That's another 02:30:36.175 --> 02:30:45.470 - food one. I would, I would say, um, I'm fine with full of funding or just kind of meeting them at night. 02:30:47.778 --> 02:30:57.500 - Nine? Yeah, nine. To see what else is left for one of the other folks. Yeah. Eddie, can you close your 02:30:57.500 --> 02:31:07.034 - ears for a second, please? OK. Can we put in, see what happens when we fully fund Summit Hill to try 02:31:07.034 --> 02:31:16.190 - to make up the damage? 24-4 or what was it? 980. Yeah, 24-980. OK, Eddie. OK. You can come back. 02:31:16.578 --> 02:31:30.781 - I think if, as long as I don't deliver, it's fine by chair. I think it would make sense to fully fund 02:31:30.781 --> 02:31:46.238 - cancer support. What was that? Three, six, five, zero. It's not much. Yeah. C jam was also not far off. Right. 02:31:47.746 --> 02:32:06.050 - going to overshoot a bit, probably to Cam's pleasure. I think we should do at least 18 if we can. But 02:32:06.050 --> 02:32:16.638 - I'm just putting in the breath. I mean, I'm sympathetic to 02:32:17.538 --> 02:32:26.187 - Or does tandem not start? We did not start tandem. Okay. Well, we could have started that. Well, I thought 02:32:26.187 --> 02:32:34.352 - it was one that we might consider bumping up a little bit. I think to be fair, I think that, I mean, 02:32:34.352 --> 02:32:42.435 - what we're offering now is good. I mean, if we had a lot more money insurance on them fully, but if 02:32:42.435 --> 02:32:45.022 - we're looking at organizations, 02:32:46.338 --> 02:32:54.652 - Yeah. I mean, if we can find another 5,000 for tandem, I'd be happy, but I don't know that. My sister's 02:32:54.652 --> 02:33:02.726 - closet is way off their ass, right? And, and this is just looking through this. We have lots of very 02:33:02.726 --> 02:33:11.280 - highs and a high. So we have a lot of say lots. Okay. I was high. Um, you were medium. Uh, Cam was medium. 02:33:11.280 --> 02:33:13.598 - Eddie was very high. Uh, um, 02:33:13.890 --> 02:33:23.109 - Uh, the date was very high and just by the allocation, it seems like Andy was higher, very high. So, 02:33:23.109 --> 02:33:32.601 - and then we, we end up. Like not even half, like, do we want to, I mean, just giving them just a little 02:33:32.601 --> 02:33:43.006 - over half. I mean, should we see what happens if we go up to 30 for starters? And then we're just missing Exodus. 02:33:43.618 --> 02:33:51.051 - Well, and Big Brother's Big Sister. Correct, but that would be the last one, because we have a query 02:33:51.051 --> 02:33:58.483 - on the floor, right? Yes. Somebody suggested 18 for Exodus. I did. Just short of their 20. I said to 02:33:58.483 --> 02:34:05.842 - see what we can do with 18, where that gets us. But then Exodus over Tandem, Exodus over, we've now 02:34:05.842 --> 02:34:13.054 - funded all the food lines fully, right? Yeah, I think the only other one that we had in mind was, 02:34:13.314 --> 02:34:23.257 - Hopefully maybe tandem. So now we're looking at in conjunction with each other, right? Exodus, tandem, 02:34:23.257 --> 02:34:33.104 - and my sister's closet. Those were all like tentatives. Yep. Okay. So thoughts. Let me put it in. Let 02:34:33.104 --> 02:34:41.406 - me just put it in. So you can see people start by that. And then. So that gets us to, 02:34:41.762 --> 02:34:53.177 - $4.93, and that's without Big Brothers Big Sisters. So if we keep that at $18, then you're talking about 02:34:53.177 --> 02:35:04.918 - funding Big Brothers Big Sisters with what's remaining, which is $6,700 or something like that. Or actually 02:35:04.918 --> 02:35:11.006 - just right at $7,000. And that gets us to $60.78 still. 02:35:11.266 --> 02:35:24.275 - So that's pretty dang good for our overall target. Now. Leaving tandem, my sister's closet in Exodus 02:35:24.275 --> 02:35:36.254 - where they are. Exodus is at 18. So I could go 14 back to where we were. I mean, call it 15. 02:35:40.258 --> 02:35:49.095 - that leaves us with 3000 more. I was five and 18 then. Yeah, I was too. Okay. I mean, I really like 02:35:49.095 --> 02:35:57.932 - the work of my sons at the NTNM, but they did both mention that they have potential new fundraising 02:35:57.932 --> 02:36:06.857 - and new development stuff that they're doing, where Exodus right now, they're basically fighting the 02:36:06.857 --> 02:36:08.094 - entire world. 02:36:08.450 --> 02:36:17.036 - Yeah, exactly. We don't know where to get funding from. So I'm cool with where we're at. And I think 02:36:17.036 --> 02:36:25.537 - both the directors at Westchester Plaza in Canada will figure things out and try to find other ways 02:36:25.537 --> 02:36:34.294 - to raise that money that they can get from us. All right. Can I be annoying and ask us to take $60 off 02:36:34.294 --> 02:36:37.694 - of Habitat for Humanity? We're in. Yes. 02:36:37.826 --> 02:36:50.008 - That's it. And the change. Yeah. That's the only instance. One less box of the average or whatever. 02:36:50.008 --> 02:37:02.555 - Okay. There we go. Feel better? Yes. Okay. We can give somebody $6 if you'd like. Should we take $1.17 02:37:02.555 --> 02:37:04.382 - off Grow Zinc? 02:37:04.930 --> 02:37:15.346 - All right. I'm just joking. Let's not get into that. We don't have to. All right. So we have a working 02:37:15.346 --> 02:37:25.561 - grant allocation tentatively. Considering that we had to rebuild this sheet in the meeting, that was 02:37:25.561 --> 02:37:28.190 - very efficient. You guys. 02:37:28.290 --> 02:37:35.529 - I'm not sure that we that we recommend. Well, we don't actually officially make this, but I just motion 02:37:35.529 --> 02:37:42.560 - that we end this meeting with this recommendation on this one. I am not writing that much. Well, now 02:37:42.560 --> 02:37:48.894 - I have to do we need to we need to officially decide what happens when Catherine sends her 02:37:49.186 --> 02:37:55.535 - So Catherine did send it. I can't access it. I think there needs to be... She wrote it and said, I'll 02:37:55.535 --> 02:38:02.072 - send it tonight or something. She did. Oh, she sent it? Yeah, she sent it. But I can't personally access 02:38:02.072 --> 02:38:08.421 - it. Maybe someone else in this room can. I mean, give it a try. We can just maybe look at it and then 02:38:08.421 --> 02:38:12.094 - I'll... Yeah, that's cool. That's what I've been thinking. 02:38:12.514 --> 02:38:19.771 - in our next meeting incorporated. I think the useful thing is you put it in there and then you see if 02:38:19.771 --> 02:38:27.028 - the numbers, so we have stars by the ones where we changed, where we know that we changed, right? And 02:38:27.028 --> 02:38:34.427 - so then if her number, like so for example, if her number made big brothers, big sisters jump to 30,000 02:38:34.427 --> 02:38:39.550 - or something, then we'd be like, ah, okay, more debate needs to happen. 02:38:39.810 --> 02:38:46.443 - Right? Is that right? Yeah, that's good. Just making sure I'm thinking foods correctly. I get it. Basically, 02:38:46.443 --> 02:38:52.711 - if she does a genius with our allocation. Right. Yeah. Like, the athletes are genius. And particularly 02:38:52.711 --> 02:38:58.979 - the ones where there are stars. Yeah. Yeah, I can access her sheet. I can see it. Right. Yeah. I mean, 02:38:58.979 --> 02:39:05.186 - she comes in with no baggage of the genius community. She's new, right? So it might be easier for her 02:39:05.186 --> 02:39:08.350 - to be like, oh, leave him. Is he worried about him? 02:39:09.058 --> 02:39:18.014 - Yeah. Okay. We'll do that. I adjourn. Thank you, Sharon. Thank you very much.