WEBVTT 00:00:00.098 --> 00:00:08.311 - Good evening everybody. Welcome to our utility services board meeting for April 6th, 2026. A reminder 00:00:08.311 --> 00:00:16.523 - that our mission for City of Bloomington utilities is to enhance the quality of life in our community 00:00:16.523 --> 00:00:24.736 - by providing safe, sustainable, and high quality drinking water, wastewater, and storm water services 00:00:24.736 --> 00:00:26.910 - in a cost-effective manner 00:00:27.106 --> 00:00:35.435 - promoting public health, economic vitality, and environmental stewardship. And our vision is that CBU 00:00:35.435 --> 00:00:43.682 - will be the leading municipal water utility organization in Indiana. Okay, on our agenda tonight, we 00:00:43.682 --> 00:00:52.093 - have petitions and communications to begin. Are there any of those, anybody want to speak to petitions 00:00:52.093 --> 00:00:53.726 - and communications? 00:00:56.162 --> 00:01:04.928 - What comments? Next is approval of the minutes of our meeting of March 23rd, 2026. Everybody's had a 00:01:04.928 --> 00:01:13.694 - chance to review those from that meeting. Any changes or updates? I move that we approve the minutes 00:01:13.694 --> 00:01:22.807 - from the last meeting. Second. It's been moved and second to approve the minutes of the meeting of March 00:01:22.807 --> 00:01:25.758 - 23rd. All in favor, say aye. Aye. 00:01:26.050 --> 00:01:42.940 - All right, motion carries. Next is approval of claims and our first is standard invoices in the amount 00:01:42.940 --> 00:01:54.910 - of $828,014.02. Lots of claims. Any questions on the claims for tonight? 00:01:55.170 --> 00:02:02.952 - The Friends of Lake Monroe are matching funds for the watershed management player. Could you just, since 00:02:02.952 --> 00:02:10.809 - it's matching funds, I'm just not exactly sure what that is, but I know that's an important contribution. 00:02:10.809 --> 00:02:18.517 - Yeah, sure. So we contribute that annually to the Friends of Lake Monroe, and it supports that specific 00:02:18.517 --> 00:02:24.446 - position, the watershed coordinator position. So there are other matching funds 00:02:25.698 --> 00:02:34.462 - Thank you. Yeah, Amanda. I have questions too. On the what I think is then page two where we've got 00:02:34.462 --> 00:02:43.576 - our city of Bloomington charges. Excuse me. So the first one was my first question is about our vehicle 00:02:43.576 --> 00:02:52.339 - maintenance on utility vehicles of what we're paying there. And I was looking through our notes and 00:02:52.339 --> 00:02:53.566 - it looks like 00:02:54.178 --> 00:03:03.505 - We had our presentation on this back on December 1st of some of that preliminary data, but it was determined 00:03:03.505 --> 00:03:12.147 - that while it was data, it wasn't exactly what we were looking for. Where are we on that project? We 00:03:12.147 --> 00:03:21.046 - have data from 2023 and 2024 summarized, and we're working on summarizing 2025. From fleet. From fleet, 00:03:21.046 --> 00:03:23.870 - like taking fleet data. Correct. 00:03:24.130 --> 00:03:31.919 - But we also had, we had some research from our data that where we were doing averages of, you know, 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:39.941 - oil changes and that type of, I mean, we're doing that stuff. And I recall we were going to try to get 00:03:39.941 --> 00:03:47.886 - that information a little bit cleaner too. So I just was kind of curious where we are with that whole 00:03:47.886 --> 00:03:49.054 - fleet project. 00:03:55.682 --> 00:04:09.011 - So we did refresh that. And I think there was discussion around the, I guess, refresh presentation. 00:04:09.011 --> 00:04:23.006 - And we discussed this with Fleet. Fleet then said, okay, let us look at our numbers and run our numbers. 00:04:23.266 --> 00:04:31.514 - And so now we're in a position where they're giving us their numbers to compare. They gave us, did you 00:04:31.514 --> 00:04:39.922 - say 23 and 24? Yeah, and we just got the numbers from 25 to compare. And so now we're at the stage where 00:04:39.922 --> 00:04:48.490 - we wanna come together and start comparing what we have versus what they have and start those discussions. 00:04:48.490 --> 00:04:52.894 - Okay, so again, just for point of point, I don't know, 00:04:53.922 --> 00:05:03.181 - We have been discussing this at least from my notes since February of 2024. And I know we've had questions 00:05:03.181 --> 00:05:11.922 - about this going even further back with the MOU. So I do think that this is dragging on a little too 00:05:11.922 --> 00:05:19.710 - long as far as kind of old business follow-up. I just want you to know I'm tracking this. 00:05:19.874 --> 00:05:27.676 - you know, when I see these big expenses for this come out and we still don't have answers on it, it 00:05:27.676 --> 00:05:35.790 - just kind of raises a red flag for me. So it doesn't mean I wouldn't not approve this, but I would like 00:05:35.790 --> 00:05:43.593 - to see us perhaps make some progress on that. I think to tag along with that, there's some expenses 00:05:43.593 --> 00:05:49.054 - for the vehicles that are in here as well. And I know things come up, 00:05:49.442 --> 00:06:01.389 - Like Amanda said, we've been at this for a long time without any answers or answers that aren't complete, 00:06:01.389 --> 00:06:13.450 - I guess. And if we're double-dipping, we've got to figure something out. And then I had a second question, 00:06:13.450 --> 00:06:19.198 - but I am mistaken. It was just the one. All right. 00:06:20.290 --> 00:06:28.721 - Any other points on claims? Yeah. Just a question on the sodium spill at the intake facility. One, everybody 00:06:28.721 --> 00:06:36.764 - okay? I don't know if we know what the causative agent or issue was there or if there was like a breach 00:06:36.764 --> 00:06:45.040 - of secondary containment or anything like that. I've certainly seen worse invoices for emergency response, 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.902 - chemical cleanup in my lifetime, but 00:06:48.866 --> 00:06:57.174 - I just didn't know if we had the info on what happened or. So this is the sodium permanganate cleanup. 00:06:57.174 --> 00:07:05.241 - Sorry, I'm trying to find it. Page 20 on the packet. Set environmental. Set environmental? Yeah, in 00:07:05.241 --> 00:07:13.630 - the middle. Thank you. Second to the last page. So the sodium permanganate spill at the intake facility 00:07:14.914 --> 00:07:22.883 - We were doing work on, I believe they're the injectors, and there was not a very large amount, everyone 00:07:22.883 --> 00:07:30.853 - is okay. Yes. Good. So to answer your first question, yes, everyone is okay. And it was, it had spilled 00:07:30.853 --> 00:07:39.128 - into the vault that it was in, and we were cleaning that vault. And the vault is the secondary containment, 00:07:39.128 --> 00:07:42.270 - is that like where it's normally stored? 00:07:47.714 --> 00:07:56.747 - All right, any other questions for our standard invoices? All right, accept the motion to approve. Move 00:07:56.747 --> 00:08:06.302 - that we approve the standard invoices. All right, it's been moved and seconded by Seth. Any other discussion? 00:08:06.302 --> 00:08:14.814 - All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, motion carries and next then is our utility bills. 00:08:16.354 --> 00:08:36.976 - For this period totaling two hundred six thousand seven hundred fourteen dollars and eighty three cents 00:08:36.976 --> 00:08:45.502 - Updated like right before the meeting Okay 00:08:45.986 --> 00:08:59.326 - It should be on the packet on the Chromebooks, though. So what is the correct amount? On the Chromebook 00:08:59.326 --> 00:09:12.665 - here, it's $206,714.83. I always bring a paper packet because it's easier for me to navigate the packet 00:09:12.665 --> 00:09:14.974 - when I review it. 00:09:15.394 --> 00:09:22.188 - If you'll just give me just a minute, I'd just like to lay my eyes on that. It's standard. Page 22. 00:09:22.188 --> 00:09:29.389 - Thank you. Yeah. And while you're looking, I should have mentioned that, of course, our standard conflict 00:09:29.389 --> 00:09:36.318 - of interest statement that if any board member has any personal or financial conflict with any of the 00:09:36.318 --> 00:09:43.180 - issues or individuals on the agenda, then please be sure to recuse yourself during those portions of 00:09:43.180 --> 00:09:45.150 - the meeting. Quick reminder. 00:09:46.914 --> 00:10:01.041 - Any other discussion on our usual utility claims list? All right. Megan, do you have a point? 00:10:01.041 --> 00:10:16.670 - You find it? All right. Moved and seconded to approve utilities for this period. All in favor, say aye. 00:10:16.866 --> 00:10:34.232 - Opposed? All right. We've got utility bills approved. Next is wire transfers down on page 33 of the 00:10:34.232 --> 00:10:43.262 - packet, totaling $709,336.25. And we've got all the 00:10:45.026 --> 00:10:53.664 - register there with all of those expenses. I move that we approve the wire transfers. All right, it's 00:10:53.664 --> 00:11:02.641 - been moved and seconded and for wire transfers. Thank you, Seth, for the second and any other discussion? 00:11:02.641 --> 00:11:11.364 - All in favor? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So in the packet, it looks like we have the payroll register for 00:11:11.364 --> 00:11:15.006 - like employees. I feel like we should have 00:11:15.778 --> 00:11:23.409 - Well, it's public record, but we normally don't get it in this detail. Is that new? It's usually in 00:11:23.409 --> 00:11:31.193 - the folder that's on the Chromebooks, and that's in the Google Drive. It made its way into the packet 00:11:31.193 --> 00:11:39.053 - this month. It doesn't usually make it into the packet. But it's not a problem? No. OK. No. I did have 00:11:39.053 --> 00:11:43.326 - a question on the Chase Bank fee, so I believe that was 00:11:43.778 --> 00:11:50.713 - I last a couple months ago and that was with the Tyler, if I'm correct, the system. So we still phase, 00:11:50.713 --> 00:11:57.783 - do you have an update on that? We're still working through that one, but we did get, when we implemented 00:11:57.783 --> 00:12:04.583 - the credit card, passing the credit card fees on to the customer last year, they didn't implement it 00:12:04.583 --> 00:12:11.518 - correctly. So we did get a check, a refund check for about $9,000 for that. So we are making progress. 00:12:12.098 --> 00:12:19.504 - We did receive or we will receive? We did. We did receive, I guess. And then so, I'm sorry, you've told 00:12:19.504 --> 00:12:26.767 - me a few months ago, but can you remind me then why we're still billed credit card fees? It's the fee 00:12:26.767 --> 00:12:34.030 - that Tyler has to pay Chase, and they're still charging us for it. So it's not a credit card fee that 00:12:34.030 --> 00:12:40.510 - is being charged to the customer or to us. It's an interbank fee that Tyler has to pay for 00:12:40.610 --> 00:12:49.150 - for them to do their side of the transactions. Because we accept credit cards? Correct. I know that 00:12:49.150 --> 00:12:57.860 - that's nominal compared to our $100,000 before. But could that be an extra penny on everybody's bill, 00:12:57.860 --> 00:13:03.838 - or is that just something that we're going to have to pay every time? 00:13:04.098 --> 00:13:10.668 - Until we get it worked out with the contractor, we're going to have to pay it. But that's why I brought 00:13:10.668 --> 00:13:17.239 - up the refund because we did get a refund when this wasn't right last year. But that was for money that 00:13:17.239 --> 00:13:23.619 - we had already. Correct. Shouldn't have. Correct. Lost anyway. So I guess this would be till the end 00:13:23.619 --> 00:13:29.937 - of this current contract with them or something. Or until they've had some turnover on their staff. 00:13:29.937 --> 00:13:33.854 - And so it's been challenging trying to find the right person. 00:13:34.050 --> 00:13:40.180 - When you find the right person, they're not there anymore. And then you have to find the next right 00:13:40.180 --> 00:13:46.800 - person. So it's just proven to be a little more challenging than I expected. OK. And I know we've discussed 00:13:46.800 --> 00:13:53.052 - that this is we're not the only city department using this system, correct? Downtown uses. Downtown's 00:13:53.052 --> 00:13:59.734 - choice to use this that we. They chose to use Tyler, yes. Right. So I guess other departments also incurring 00:13:59.734 --> 00:14:03.902 - these fees that would rather not be. They're moving away from that. 00:14:04.610 --> 00:14:11.979 - So I think that some departments are and some departments aren't. But their goal is to move to where 00:14:11.979 --> 00:14:19.567 - the city does not pay any fees. Okay, so maybe the department that doesn't get charged this, maybe they 00:14:19.567 --> 00:14:27.227 - know the right person to contact? I've tried, but yes, it's a very fair ask. Thank you, okay. No further 00:14:27.227 --> 00:14:31.678 - questions. Yeah. Anything else on wire transfers? All right. 00:14:38.466 --> 00:14:50.289 - wire transfers, yeah? Second. Thank you, any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:14:50.289 --> 00:15:02.828 - All right, wire transfers are approved. Next is approval of customer refunds in the amount of $2,757.03. 00:15:02.828 --> 00:15:07.486 - Any questions on any of those refunds? 00:15:11.586 --> 00:15:21.088 - approve the customer refunds. Okay it's been moved. Seconded to approve the customer refunds for pay 00:15:21.088 --> 00:15:30.590 - date April 10th. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right motion carries. 00:15:30.590 --> 00:15:39.998 - Then next is our approval of the consent agenda. We'll ask Director Zeiger to take us through that. 00:15:40.930 --> 00:15:50.974 - Good evening, I'm Katherine Sager, utilities director. I'm presenting tonight's consent agenda totaling 00:15:50.974 --> 00:16:00.921 - $49,255.77. First contract is with Electric Plus for $1,770 for low tower light installation at Monroe 00:16:00.921 --> 00:16:07.102 - Water Plant. Next is with VET Environmental LLC for $11,389.79. 00:16:07.202 --> 00:16:15.049 - for consulting and reporting on results of phase two environmental site analysis for improved rights 00:16:15.049 --> 00:16:22.818 - of way between Madison and Bryan streets related to the Broadview sewer extension. Next is with MEG 00:16:22.818 --> 00:16:30.742 - services LLC DBA Midwest engine and generator for $7,364 for the replacement of generator air filters 00:16:30.742 --> 00:16:33.694 - and fuel lines at Monroe water plant. 00:16:34.978 --> 00:16:45.531 - Next is with Shambon Sun LP for a not to exceed of $16,361.98 to troubleshoot existing HVAC control 00:16:45.531 --> 00:16:56.400 - systems at the service center. Next is with Tyler Technologies for $3,510 for new world reorganization 00:16:56.400 --> 00:17:03.998 - based on the 2026 rate case. Next is with Electric Plus Inc for $960 to 00:17:04.258 --> 00:17:13.278 - set a new EV charger at Monroe Water Plant. Next is with AMI Roofing Contractors Inc. for $1,620 to 00:17:13.278 --> 00:17:22.568 - install gutters and replace snow cleats on the admin building at the Blucher Pool Wastewater Treatment 00:17:22.568 --> 00:17:31.678 - Plant. Next is with MEG Services LLC DBA Midwest Engine and Generator for $6,280 for the replacement 00:17:31.970 --> 00:17:39.926 - of intake generator air filters and wait, and fuel lines at Monroe Water Treatment Plant. Is there any 00:17:39.926 --> 00:17:47.342 - member who wishes to consider one or more of these items individually? Hearing none, if there's 00:17:47.342 --> 00:17:55.375 - no opposition, these items will be approved as recommended by staff. Hearing no opposition, the consent 00:17:55.375 --> 00:18:01.246 - agenda is approved. Thank you. Consent agenda is approved and the next item 00:18:02.914 --> 00:18:12.160 - discussion is the request for approval of professional services agreement with TY Lynn LLC and Dan Hudson 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:21.668 - will present on that. Good afternoon I'm Daniel Hudson capital projects manager with the city of Bloomington 00:18:21.668 --> 00:18:30.826 - utilities. A few weeks ago we had a failure of one of our medium voltage boxes at the Dillman wastewater 00:18:30.826 --> 00:18:32.222 - treatment plant 00:18:32.322 --> 00:18:43.190 - and we had to hire an emergency contractor to do a wire around a fix, but it was a temporary fix. What 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:53.953 - I'm proposing here from TYLN is a design to fix that box. Plus we have five other boxes out there and 00:18:53.953 --> 00:19:02.078 - they're gonna design all of them together. These boxes are 60 years old, so, 00:19:02.178 --> 00:19:15.132 - One failed, are the other ones gonna fail? We don't know. But would like to go ask the board to go under 00:19:15.132 --> 00:19:27.963 - design for TYLN for $149,220. Okay, thank you, Dan. Any questions on this request? Yeah, go ahead. Once 00:19:27.963 --> 00:19:31.294 - the project is designed to 00:19:32.866 --> 00:19:39.480 - built, what do you think our timeline is? And is this temporary fix? You know, do we think that that's 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:46.093 - going to be able to last that long? We hope it's going to last that long. You know, it's hard to tell. 00:19:46.093 --> 00:19:52.450 - It is a temporary fix. If it goes, we'll have to hire another emergency contractor to do it again. 00:19:52.450 --> 00:19:58.935 - The design, I'm thinking, is going to be about eight months, probably. And then we have to go out to 00:19:58.935 --> 00:20:00.990 - bid. That's another two months. 00:20:01.602 --> 00:20:08.252 - And so it may be the end of the year, fall, before we get a contractor in there to do it. Okay. 00:20:08.252 --> 00:20:15.248 - Thank you. Okay. Yeah, I think we got our 60 years worth, money's worth of the product for 60 years. 00:20:15.248 --> 00:20:22.453 - Yes. I am just hopeful that whatever we find, while I know things don't work necessarily like they used 00:20:22.453 --> 00:20:29.726 - to, I do hope there's something that is, you know, going to take us to the next jump that we need to do. 00:20:30.914 --> 00:20:40.213 - I hope it goes another 60 years. But this is a medium voltage, which seems to be high to me. It's 1.4 00:20:40.213 --> 00:20:49.512 - kilovolts. And it steps down to 480 volts. And that's where the delay may happen. To buy transformers 00:20:49.512 --> 00:20:57.534 - today on the market, it may take 12 months, 18 months after you order them to get here. 00:20:59.138 --> 00:21:08.735 - It's hard to say when the project actually is going to be completed. Yeah, cross your fingers. All right. 00:21:08.735 --> 00:21:17.788 - What's the general life expectancy of these units? About 60 years or? Yeah, 50 to 60 years for that 00:21:17.788 --> 00:21:27.294 - kind of equipment is about right. And I was told, I don't know if it's totally true that they don't make 00:21:28.098 --> 00:21:37.097 - transformers in the United States anymore. So we have to go outside the country and I don't know if 00:21:37.097 --> 00:21:46.097 - there's tariffs on them or what. We used to make them here. We used to make all of them. But that's 00:21:46.097 --> 00:21:54.826 - that's another story. Yeah. That's for another board meeting. Okay. Any other questions for Dan? 00:21:54.826 --> 00:21:57.886 - All right. I move that we approve 00:21:57.986 --> 00:22:08.154 - the agreement with TY Lynn? Second. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:22:08.154 --> 00:22:19.021 - All right. Motion carries. And next is the request for approval resolution 2026-08, which is the declaration 00:22:19.021 --> 00:22:23.806 - of surplus and worthless items. So this is the, 00:22:24.610 --> 00:22:32.595 - the same thing that we're trying to bring every month. This one's a little light. We just have a few 00:22:32.595 --> 00:22:40.659 - stacks of pallets up on the hill that we would like to get rid of one way or the other. And a bonfire 00:22:40.659 --> 00:22:48.644 - was out of the question. Not on the premises. I was hoping we could have a company bonfire. These do 00:22:48.644 --> 00:22:54.494 - have market value, so good move. All right, any other questions for Matt? 00:22:54.722 --> 00:23:08.801 - Any discussion? Okay. I move that we approve the surplus for auction resolution. All right. It's been 00:23:08.801 --> 00:23:21.086 - moved and seconded. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. 00:23:24.226 --> 00:23:32.784 - Next is the request for approval of memorandum of understanding between CBU and Joe Smith for a sewer 00:23:32.784 --> 00:23:40.502 - connection. And Mr. Wheeler will present this one. Good evening, Chris Wheeler, City Legal. 00:23:40.502 --> 00:23:49.395 - For some time now, the engineering department has been working on ways to expand and enhance the capacity 00:23:49.395 --> 00:23:53.758 - that Dilman Wastewater Treatment Plant would enjoy. 00:23:54.818 --> 00:24:02.968 - Our assistant director, Mr. Peden has identified a rather large piece of property situated just to the 00:24:02.968 --> 00:24:11.356 - east of our interstate that could be used for additional detention retention, which would greatly enhance 00:24:11.356 --> 00:24:19.506 - our capacity at Dillman. We engaged Mr. Smith for the instigation of the steps that would move towards 00:24:19.506 --> 00:24:24.254 - eminent domain so that we could go onto the property and do 00:24:25.890 --> 00:24:32.481 - some investigation and survey of the property of our own to try and identify what portion of the property 00:24:32.481 --> 00:24:38.886 - we would like to purchase from Mr. Smith. He was amenable to these overtures. He does have an attorney 00:24:38.886 --> 00:24:45.352 - involved, as you can see at the bottom of the signature lines on the MOU. After working through several 00:24:45.352 --> 00:24:50.078 - different items of negotiation with Mr. Smith's attorney, we arrived at the 00:24:51.266 --> 00:24:57.037 - outline of this MOU as an agreement that takes us a substantial step towards purchasing the property. 00:24:57.037 --> 00:25:02.920 - This is a little different than what we normally do because there are some moving pieces. We still need 00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:08.804 - to do a survey on the property so that we have a formal legal survey that identifies exactly what we're 00:25:08.804 --> 00:25:14.631 - purchasing. Mr. Smith then needs to go through processes through the county to subdivide the property. 00:25:14.631 --> 00:25:20.062 - And once we go through those dance steps, we can then actually do a transfer of the real estate 00:25:20.642 --> 00:25:28.585 - as legally identified from Mr. Smith to the city of Bloomington utilities, and then make our payment 00:25:28.585 --> 00:25:36.450 - to him as we've agreed, which is a $200,000 payment. That $200,000 was arrived at from an appraisal 00:25:36.450 --> 00:25:44.314 - done through a contract that this board approved months ago. We arrived at an appraisal value for a 00:25:44.314 --> 00:25:49.662 - fair market value on what we believe to be the identified property. 00:25:50.562 --> 00:25:57.566 - That's how we arrived at that. There are some caps on what, uh, so I'm sorry. One of the pieces 00:25:57.566 --> 00:26:04.861 - of consideration in addition to the $200,000 was to allow Mr. Smith to connect to our sewer system. 00:26:04.861 --> 00:26:12.230 - Should that property, that little piece at the bottom. So the big piece at the top that looks like a 00:26:12.230 --> 00:26:13.470 - big mouth Chris, 00:26:13.794 --> 00:26:26.192 - Could you go and, I know it gets you off the mic, but could you show us, because we did not get the 00:26:26.192 --> 00:26:38.591 - map in our packet. That's okay, but could you go up there though? That's the property we're looking 00:26:38.591 --> 00:26:43.550 - at purchasing. And where's Mr. Smith's? 00:26:47.906 --> 00:26:56.395 - Okay. Thank you. Should it ever be eligible for annexation? You know, go through all the steps of our 00:26:56.395 --> 00:27:04.967 - rules and regulations or for some reason get identified as economically important by ESD. Uh, so going 00:27:04.967 --> 00:27:13.539 - through those steps, but in the MOU, you can see, we point out currently that property is not eligible 00:27:13.539 --> 00:27:16.702 - for connection. It would only become. 00:27:17.474 --> 00:27:24.682 - they could become connected if at some point it becomes eligible. We will identify when we're putting 00:27:24.682 --> 00:27:31.819 - infrastructure in, we will stub it out so that they can connect someday in the future, assuming that 00:27:31.819 --> 00:27:39.169 - that will occur. There are some caps on that connection. It can only be for service that doesn't exceed 00:27:39.169 --> 00:27:46.942 - a capacity of flow of 3000 gallons per day, and it has a cap on the size of the meter. That meter is going to 00:27:47.938 --> 00:27:54.410 - the cost of that meter going in is part of the MOU, unless he wants it to be a larger meter, then he'll 00:27:54.410 --> 00:28:00.758 - have to pay the difference. So those little bells and whistles are built into the MOU. But we believe 00:28:00.758 --> 00:28:06.981 - this is a very good thing for CBU because it will provide a great deal of property available for us 00:28:06.981 --> 00:28:13.578 - to use to expand capacity at Dilma, which is much needed. So we would recommend, the staff does recommend 00:28:13.578 --> 00:28:17.374 - approval of this MOU. I'm happy to try and answer questions. 00:28:18.210 --> 00:28:24.723 - So just the sentence in the middle of the first paragraph. Oh boy, right out of the gates. The connection. 00:28:24.723 --> 00:28:30.566 - In the first whereas or the first enumerated? The first whereas? Oh, no, I'm in the memorandum. 00:28:30.566 --> 00:28:36.774 - The memo. Right. Are you looking at the where? The cover memo. Oh, in the cover memo? Mm-hmm. Oh, the 00:28:36.774 --> 00:28:42.860 - staff memo. But is that your work? That's what I was looking at. OK. And now I'm wondering if maybe 00:28:42.860 --> 00:28:47.486 - the question is answered on the next page. But I'll go ahead and answer it. 00:28:47.618 --> 00:28:56.558 - ask it anyway. Yeah, so that first paragraph reiterates that connection may only occur if the property 00:28:56.558 --> 00:29:05.150 - becomes eligible, but is the MOU bypassing that? No. So what's the advantage for him to have this? 00:29:07.778 --> 00:29:13.025 - It seems like he's not getting any special. We're stubbing it out so he can connect and we're going 00:29:13.025 --> 00:29:18.586 - to give him an easement across our property that we're buying at the top. When that becomes our property, 00:29:18.586 --> 00:29:24.043 - we're granting an easement so he can cross the property and connect at the stubbed out area. But that's 00:29:24.043 --> 00:29:29.447 - only going to be something he can do at a later date when the property becomes eligible for connection 00:29:29.447 --> 00:29:34.799 - because currently it's outside the city. So it's just an additional eligible and we hadn't done this. 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.478 - He would not have been able to. 00:29:37.026 --> 00:29:42.861 - connect at that point, is that right? If his property becomes eligible to connect. And we weren't doing 00:29:42.861 --> 00:29:48.528 - this. At a later date, then he would need to negotiate with us for an easement to cross our property 00:29:48.528 --> 00:29:54.700 - to get there. OK, so we're making one step easier. So we're making it easier for him to make that connection. 00:29:54.700 --> 00:30:00.591 - OK, thank you. Making stuff easier? I'm sorry? I said, what, we're making stuff easier? This is awesome. 00:30:00.591 --> 00:30:04.350 - I was saying that sarcastically. Sarcasm received and appreciated. 00:30:04.642 --> 00:30:13.877 - question for you is that is that the Dillman plant that's on that other side that that's right oh right 00:30:13.877 --> 00:30:23.289 - there okay okay yeah 37 runs down these to the east and right up to the east northeast is Mays greenhouse 00:30:23.289 --> 00:30:31.902 - so my question is what is why we're up there the Kirk what is what are all the red boxes then up 00:30:32.642 --> 00:30:39.278 - at the right. Those are other people's properties. That's just identifying other people's properties, 00:30:39.278 --> 00:30:46.044 - buildings on other people's properties. Okay. Um, so my question to that is if we are going to be going 00:30:46.044 --> 00:30:52.680 - in and doing this work and those are other properties, are they, they're not, they're not included in 00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:59.902 - any of this and it's to no benefit to include them in it in the event that this area were to ever get annexed. 00:31:00.354 --> 00:31:06.605 - There was no need for us to even communicate with them because we're not touching their property and 00:31:06.605 --> 00:31:12.857 - it doesn't impact them. Perfect. Thank you. Those are my questions. Now to the north and as you, you 00:31:12.857 --> 00:31:19.046 - go up north, we are looking, we are buying properties to, to do additional work, to do sewer relief 00:31:19.046 --> 00:31:25.422 - as I under can, as I understand down through this property. So there are, we are doing additional work 00:31:25.422 --> 00:31:28.702 - that you're going to see coming along in the future. 00:31:32.258 --> 00:31:40.542 - potential extra capacity this could give us? I do not, that might be, we don't know yet. Engineering 00:31:40.542 --> 00:31:48.827 - says no, we don't know yet. But it's more regarding this. It's looking to future planning of what we 00:31:48.827 --> 00:31:57.029 - could need, so. Get it while it's available. Exactly. The information that I have and maybe there's 00:31:57.029 --> 00:32:00.638 - additional documents online it doesn't list 00:32:00.866 --> 00:32:07.100 - Mr. Smith is working with an attorney that I could see. Did you see that? There's a signature line at 00:32:07.100 --> 00:32:13.211 - the bottom with, oh, I thought that the attorney was in there. It only lists the property owner. It 00:32:13.211 --> 00:32:19.445 - has Joe signing, that's right. I apologize. He is working with an attorney though. Okay, and I'm glad 00:32:19.445 --> 00:32:25.679 - to hear that he feels good about this offer since we approached him about his land. So I think that's 00:32:25.679 --> 00:32:28.062 - very important and feels that's a fair 00:32:28.482 --> 00:32:34.162 - for both sides. We feel that's fair and he feels that's fair. Yes. I don't know how Joe feels. I've 00:32:34.162 --> 00:32:40.069 - never spoken with him directly. Okay. He feels good enough to sign a value. But he signed it to suggest 00:32:40.069 --> 00:32:45.749 - that he's okay with it. In the right direction. And then, okay, so I know he'll be doing surveying, 00:32:45.749 --> 00:32:51.656 - but is there a guesstimate of how many acres this is? The city will be doing the surveying. Oh, we will 00:32:51.656 --> 00:32:57.790 - at our expense. We're going to get the legal survey prepared. He's going to be doing the subdivision. Okay. 00:32:58.018 --> 00:33:09.380 - and then we'll prepare the deed and record it. But what's the guesstimate of acreage? I can't tell those 00:33:09.380 --> 00:33:20.417 - little numbers. Say 5.27. I don't know off the top of my head what the acreage is. 19 acres total and 00:33:20.417 --> 00:33:26.910 - 14.27 is in FEMA floodway. We tracking right on that? Yeah. 00:33:27.394 --> 00:33:36.754 - eyesight is still working in the haze of the slide. That's great. Oh, Chris, you mentioned eminent domain, 00:33:36.754 --> 00:33:45.590 - but we're not in that department on this, right? Well, that's in order to, yes, in order to initiate 00:33:45.590 --> 00:33:54.863 - communications with a property owner, the steps that we are taking are statutorily built into our eminent 00:33:54.863 --> 00:33:56.350 - domain statutes. 00:33:56.994 --> 00:34:04.484 - So we are talking eminent domain, but we send an initial letter of intent that we are going to come 00:34:04.484 --> 00:34:12.573 - on the property to inspect and would prefer, I'll give you the process. We would prefer that they cooperate 00:34:12.573 --> 00:34:20.587 - with us and give us a right of entry, which Joe Smith did. We came on the property, surveyed and inspected 00:34:20.587 --> 00:34:26.654 - to see if it was suitable, found that it was. And then we send this formal offer 00:34:26.818 --> 00:34:32.573 - true eminent domain, giving them a fair market value of the property that they can either accept or 00:34:32.573 --> 00:34:38.329 - reject. If they reject it, we can then take the matter to court and force the sale. So we are in an 00:34:38.329 --> 00:34:44.084 - eminent domain situation. But because the offer that we made was acceptable, there's no need for us 00:34:44.084 --> 00:34:49.897 - to worry about court proceedings or anything like that. And that's usually what you think about when 00:34:49.897 --> 00:34:55.710 - you think about eminent domain is that it's that it's an adversarial relationship. But in this case, 00:34:56.226 --> 00:35:03.004 - we're in good shape along those lines because we've done our due diligence as we should in the process 00:35:03.004 --> 00:35:09.585 - and he's agreeable with it. Yeah, there are conditions precedent to filing in the court for eminent 00:35:09.585 --> 00:35:16.297 - domain and these steps that we have taken are those conditions precedent. I always like to, you know, 00:35:16.297 --> 00:35:23.009 - my opinion is if you can come up with a good agreement with a property owner, it's a whole lot better 00:35:23.009 --> 00:35:24.062 - than government 00:35:25.378 --> 00:35:33.106 - grabbing as some people look at it, even though we can prove overwhelming public benefit in these cases, 00:35:33.106 --> 00:35:40.466 - which is why we have the ability in the first place. The second question I have, I assume we did an 00:35:40.466 --> 00:35:48.046 - average of a couple of appraisals here or how did that work? No, we only used one appraiser. Okay. And 00:35:48.046 --> 00:35:53.566 - he was good with that too. He was good with the number we suggested. Okay. 00:35:54.914 --> 00:36:02.576 - We're good with it, obviously. Okay, good. All right. Good work. Good work for everybody that worked 00:36:02.576 --> 00:36:09.708 - on that. Is there any issue for us that it's in a floodplain or our use of the land will not? 00:36:09.708 --> 00:36:17.370 - My understanding is the area that we're going to be putting the infrastructure is not subject to the 00:36:17.370 --> 00:36:24.350 - floodplain, but Phil's coming up to give us a better understanding. Philippine Engineering. 00:36:24.482 --> 00:36:30.930 - We are limited by the floodplain. We can't put, we can't fill in the floodplain. So some of this might 00:36:30.930 --> 00:36:37.315 - be underground storage within that same space. There's also other utilities that cross this. So there 00:36:37.315 --> 00:36:43.700 - is that red line that kind of bisects north and south through the center of the, as I don't know that 00:36:43.700 --> 00:36:50.398 - he referred to it as this, but the Pacman words. So anyway, the red line there, that's an electrical line. 00:36:50.786 --> 00:36:58.213 - So there's an electrical easement that goes through north-south. And so our engineer has indicated that 00:36:58.213 --> 00:37:05.711 - there's enough space there, either underground or other space there where we can add more storage. Along 00:37:05.711 --> 00:37:13.066 - with the Dillman Relief Sewer that's gonna pass through this space parallel, somewhat parallel to that 00:37:13.066 --> 00:37:20.350 - existing sewer that you see along the top that's green, the Dillman Relief Sewer will be oversized to 00:37:20.610 --> 00:37:29.115 - provide inline storage. So we'll get that with the phase one and then phase two would be where we add 00:37:29.115 --> 00:37:38.121 - some storage off of that main line. So it's going to be like underground storage or there will be buildings 00:37:38.121 --> 00:37:46.459 - there as well? Not positive yet, but I think we'll be challenged to put above ground storage in the 00:37:46.459 --> 00:37:50.462 - floodplain. So it may be a combination of both. 00:37:56.578 --> 00:38:05.024 - Other questions, discussion? All right, looks like we're ready for a motion then. I move that we approve 00:38:05.024 --> 00:38:12.504 - the memorandum of understanding with Joe Smith. All right, it's been moved and seconded. Any 00:38:12.504 --> 00:38:20.789 - other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Thank you. All right, motion carries. A good way 00:38:20.789 --> 00:38:25.374 - to plan for the future here. Okay, next on the agenda is 00:38:25.762 --> 00:38:35.807 - Any old business? Do we have any old business for the board? All right. New business? Yeah, so yeah. 00:38:35.807 --> 00:38:45.851 - I got the nod there. New business from the board, or yeah? I just want to give a public thank you to 00:38:45.851 --> 00:38:53.310 - the crew that came out to work on Easter Sunday at a water main break that 00:38:53.922 --> 00:38:59.980 - was at the corner of Rock Creek and Wood Bluff. They were out there very quickly and it was a wee bit 00:38:59.980 --> 00:39:06.097 - challenging from what I understand and hopefully everything is hooked back up, but they were out there 00:39:06.097 --> 00:39:12.214 - working and again, just appreciation for all those folks that come out on weekends and after hours and 00:39:12.214 --> 00:39:18.332 - on a holiday when they should hopefully be spending time with families and loved ones, but they're out 00:39:18.332 --> 00:39:22.014 - there taking care of our community. So thank you to the team. 00:39:24.834 --> 00:39:32.298 - Good comments there. All right, any other new business from staff? All right. We didn't have 00:39:32.298 --> 00:39:40.404 - any subcommittees today, so I don't think any subcommittee reports. Staff reports. Yeah. I'd like to 00:39:40.404 --> 00:39:48.992 - go ahead and congratulate Curtis Richardson for obtaining their CDLB license. And then I'd like to welcome 00:39:48.992 --> 00:39:53.406 - Phil Peden to come and introduce our new staff member. 00:39:59.234 --> 00:40:05.217 - in Philippine engineering. I don't know about you all, but I've been watching a lot of college basketball. 00:40:05.217 --> 00:40:10.864 - How about you all? And so you watch some of those teams, and you see that, man, that's a great team. 00:40:10.864 --> 00:40:16.735 - But then they go into that NIL transfer portal, and they grab a couple of really good players that makes 00:40:16.735 --> 00:40:22.047 - them the championship team, right? And so in the last few months, that's what we've been doing 00:40:22.047 --> 00:40:27.582 - in engineering. We've been building our team. And so back in December, we added Tonya in the back. 00:40:28.290 --> 00:40:35.756 - And then most recently, we added Ginger Davis. Ginger has a lot of great experience and a good background 00:40:35.756 --> 00:40:43.223 - she's going to make for a strong team and build our championship team. Which position is that? She filled 00:40:43.223 --> 00:40:50.337 - the utilities engineer position, so she's going to be doing a lot of storm water and playing review, 00:40:50.337 --> 00:40:56.606 - overseeing the playing reviews. Great. Welcome. Yeah, welcome to both of you. Thank you. 00:40:58.722 --> 00:41:06.519 - Thank you, Phil. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. All right. That's our staff report. Okay. Any petitions 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:14.723 - or communications from the public? All right. Anyone else? All right. Well, we stand adjourned then. 00:41:14.723 --> 00:41:16.510 - Thank you. Thank you.