WEBVTT 00:00:00.162 --> 00:00:08.514 - We've got five o'clock. Let's call the Utility Service Board meeting of April 20th, 2026 to order. Our 00:00:08.514 --> 00:00:16.705 - agenda today calls first for petitions and communications. Are there any petitions or communications 00:00:16.705 --> 00:00:24.814 - from the public? All right, not seeing any. We'll go on to approval of the minutes of our April 6th 00:00:24.814 --> 00:00:29.598 - meeting. Everybody's had a chance to take a look at those. 00:00:30.754 --> 00:00:42.407 - Any additions or corrections? I have one correction. Yeah. Um, in the new business section where I express 00:00:42.407 --> 00:00:52.644 - thanks of where the water main break was, it was actually at Rogers and winding Brook circle. 00:00:52.644 --> 00:01:00.158 - That was the, that was the intersection. That's good. Anything else? 00:01:01.506 --> 00:01:17.236 - Get that taken care of. The movement seconded. All in favor say aye. Opposed. All right. Minutes are 00:01:17.236 --> 00:01:30.942 - approved. Next we'll go to standard invoices and it looks like standard invoices today. 00:01:31.970 --> 00:01:48.586 - Total 1,000,040, let's see, 1,410,000. I'm gonna read that, 1,041,000. Yeah, 1,041,000. I need to get 00:01:48.586 --> 00:02:00.478 - this bigger. Yeah, $655.14. Better wear my glasses, that would help too. 00:02:02.562 --> 00:02:10.353 - We have two questions, both on page two. My first question, and these are both just like, please refresh 00:02:10.353 --> 00:02:17.773 - us, give us an update. For Criter and Criter with the Catalan sewer infrastructure, I remember that 00:02:17.773 --> 00:02:25.342 - being maybe a grant that paid for part of that project. And so we've already received the grant funds 00:02:25.342 --> 00:02:30.462 - and then this is just the funneling out of that or our part of this. 00:02:30.626 --> 00:02:37.422 - and then they're giving us a check. And we have been receiving the checks from the grant. Okay, great. 00:02:37.422 --> 00:02:44.481 - Thank you. My second question under the next line for Crowe with our water rate case. I was just wondering 00:02:44.481 --> 00:02:51.211 - if there's anything to share at this time. Oh, okay. We're working on our, we've submitted all of our 00:02:51.211 --> 00:02:57.875 - testimony. We've gone through the rebuttal process and we're waiting for our, how do we call it, our 00:02:57.875 --> 00:02:59.326 - hearing in early May. 00:02:59.810 --> 00:03:23.529 - Anything else on standard claims? How many employees do we have that are maybe subject to that? Is that 00:03:23.529 --> 00:03:26.494 - quite a bit? 00:03:29.410 --> 00:03:36.645 - I would say about half of our employees probably. So noisy places. Yeah. And I also saw the charge for 00:03:36.645 --> 00:03:44.020 - the total trihalomethane-halocytic acid analysis. I don't know. I know that those numbers were a concern 00:03:44.020 --> 00:03:51.324 - maybe 18 years ago, and they've gotten better. I'm just wondering how they're looking now. I know we're 00:03:51.324 --> 00:03:58.910 - coming out of the winter months when those levels are usually lower. But I don't know if we've consistently 00:03:59.490 --> 00:04:11.426 - I'm seeing some higher rates or if those continue to be looking pretty good. I'm not sure. I don't think 00:04:11.426 --> 00:04:23.021 - we've had significantly higher rates. Yeah. Thanks. Great. Yeah. Actually a follow up question to the 00:04:23.021 --> 00:04:27.454 - question that that Megan asked. So the 00:04:29.570 --> 00:04:37.533 - I noticed here there was a credit memo. So we're seeing credit credits on these, um, on the, on these 00:04:37.533 --> 00:04:45.497 - reports every two weeks. Will we see a credit somewhere when Catalan pay, like when we get this grant 00:04:45.497 --> 00:04:53.616 - money, does it show up on these? So why do some show and some not that I don't know. Cause that, that's 00:04:53.616 --> 00:04:57.598 - a reimbursement. It's not an actual claim leaving. 00:04:58.946 --> 00:05:05.971 - Okay. Right. So this we actually paid somebody money up front to do the work and then we're getting 00:05:05.971 --> 00:05:12.997 - the grant money after the fact. Okay. But yet like we'll get a credit like a credit memo because we 00:05:12.997 --> 00:05:20.163 - paid I don't understand why we'll see some credit memos like on page seven there is a credit memo for 00:05:20.163 --> 00:05:27.399 - water solutions and we've seen other credit memos before so I guess I don't understand why we wouldn't 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:28.734 - get a credit back. 00:05:29.058 --> 00:05:35.865 - It's shown somewhere. And where does that credit go? Well, we deposit the check, and then we offset 00:05:35.865 --> 00:05:43.013 - the expense that we've incurred prior to them giving us the check. Because it's technically not a credit 00:05:43.013 --> 00:05:50.161 - memo. It's a reimbursement. OK. Right? So we didn't technically buy anything from them that we returned. 00:05:50.161 --> 00:05:56.832 - It's just we're doing the work, and we're putting the money out up front for them to pay us back. 00:05:56.832 --> 00:05:58.398 - So then, I guess then, 00:05:58.754 --> 00:06:06.274 - So what I hear you saying is that any of those situations where we're getting money back from a grant 00:06:06.274 --> 00:06:13.646 - that we've done or some other type of agreement, we as the board will never see it on these claims. 00:06:13.646 --> 00:06:21.534 - Correct. Okay. All right. Thank you. Yep. Anything else on standard invoices? Okay. I move that we approve 00:06:21.534 --> 00:06:23.230 - the standard invoices. 00:06:25.090 --> 00:06:35.702 - Seconded to approve standard invoices. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, invoices for today 00:06:35.702 --> 00:06:46.011 - are approved. Next are utility bills. And the total there is $281,354.78. Questions on utility bills? 00:06:46.011 --> 00:06:55.006 - I move that we approve the utility bills. All right, moving in second for utility bills. 00:06:55.330 --> 00:07:08.967 - Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Utility bills are approved. Next are wire 00:07:08.967 --> 00:07:17.694 - transfers in the amount of $599,455.54. Any questions on those? 00:07:24.610 --> 00:07:37.576 - All in favor of approving wire transfers say aye. Opposed? All right motion carries everybody gets paid 00:07:37.576 --> 00:07:50.293 - that's a good thing. Next our customer refunds and the total of customer refunds is $1,381.73. In the 00:07:50.293 --> 00:07:53.534 - discussion on the refunds 00:07:54.658 --> 00:08:06.202 - inactive accounts moved and seconded to approve the customer refunds all in favor say aye opposed all 00:08:06.202 --> 00:08:17.859 - right motion carries refunds are approved next our credit cards and we have those listed and the total 00:08:17.859 --> 00:08:23.518 - is nine thousand nine hundred fifty seven dollars 00:08:24.162 --> 00:08:33.625 - and Sixth Sense. Any questions on those expenditures? Yeah. Is this something new or have I just not? 00:08:33.625 --> 00:08:43.089 - The refunds? No, the credit cards. So what happens is the credit cards due out of the cycle for these 00:08:43.089 --> 00:08:52.737 - meetings and so we have to do a special check run until it's not late. Okay, so this is a special check 00:08:52.737 --> 00:08:53.758 - run, not a 00:08:54.626 --> 00:09:00.763 - Okay, I understand. I was, I thought we were getting, I thought we were getting, now we have to get 00:09:00.763 --> 00:09:06.901 - reports on what you guys spent on your credit cards. But no, this is really a special check. To pay 00:09:06.901 --> 00:09:13.222 - the credit card, yes. But usually these are included in the standard invoices. If timing works, it is, 00:09:13.222 --> 00:09:17.150 - yes. Sure, thank you. Okay. Thank you, that clarifies it. Okay. 00:09:23.490 --> 00:09:32.667 - And moved and seconded. All in favor of the special check run for credit card, say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:09:32.667 --> 00:09:42.025 - All right, motion carries. Next then is the consent agenda approval. And we'll go to Kat for that. Good 00:09:42.025 --> 00:09:51.742 - evening. I'm Katherine Sager, utilities director. I'm presenting tonight's consent agenda, totaling $7,750. 00:09:52.482 --> 00:09:59.258 - The contract on the consent agenda is Wheeler Coaching Systems LLC for $7,750 for customer 00:09:59.258 --> 00:10:07.151 - service communications training at the Utility Service Center. Is there any member who wishes to consider 00:10:07.151 --> 00:10:14.747 - one or more of these items individually? Hearing none, if there is no opposition, these items will be 00:10:14.747 --> 00:10:21.374 - approved as recommended by staff. Hearing no opposition, the consent agenda is approved. 00:10:22.850 --> 00:10:32.802 - Very good. Consent agenda is approved. Our first item then after that is a request for approval of the 00:10:32.802 --> 00:10:42.464 - service agreement with on course Home Solutions LLC. And James Hall will give us the description of 00:10:42.464 --> 00:10:52.126 - this proposal. Hi, I'm James Hall, Assistant Director of TND. What this is is, as you've heard from 00:10:52.290 --> 00:10:58.184 - members of our community, we have an issue with cost replacement of sewer laterals from the main to 00:10:58.184 --> 00:11:04.079 - the house, because they are responsible all the way from their house all the way to the sewer main, 00:11:04.079 --> 00:11:10.091 - which typically runs in the middle of the road. And depending on where you live, that may become very 00:11:10.091 --> 00:11:16.162 - costly. We have a whole committee, Molly is a part of that, to try to figure out how to kind of offset 00:11:16.162 --> 00:11:22.174 - these costs. There's a large infrastructure cost to us to try to go out and do that all of ourselves. 00:11:22.402 --> 00:11:29.265 - We've kind of stated an in-house policy as we're actually digging and replacing sewer mains that we 00:11:29.265 --> 00:11:36.264 - will go ahead and extend, replace the laterals out to the right way with cleanouts and leave that for 00:11:36.264 --> 00:11:43.196 - the customers as we go along. We're just not doing that on every sewer main. We've estimated that it 00:11:43.196 --> 00:11:50.127 - would cost us around $70 million to do that. So we're hoping that this is kind of a stop gap for our 00:11:50.127 --> 00:11:51.774 - residents and basically 00:11:52.354 --> 00:12:00.758 - It's a private insurance agency that will provide insurance for folks for their sewer or sewer lateral 00:12:00.758 --> 00:12:08.999 - or water service line on their side of it, whatever they're responsible for, from the meter to their 00:12:08.999 --> 00:12:14.302 - house on the water or from the main to the house on the lateral. 00:12:14.466 --> 00:12:20.171 - In as part of this agreement, we will provide them our customer information so that they have those 00:12:20.171 --> 00:12:25.875 - customers and can reach out and they will use our branding and logos so that they will have that on 00:12:25.875 --> 00:12:31.637 - the information that they're sending out so people understand that they're kind of they went through 00:12:31.637 --> 00:12:37.798 - us and talked to us. And then the other thing about that is that we will approve all the marketing material 00:12:37.798 --> 00:12:43.902 - that they send out. So before any of that sent out, our staff will kind of look over that and send it out. 00:12:46.594 --> 00:12:54.398 - where we're at and I think in your packet there should have been kind of what it's gonna cost our residents 00:12:54.398 --> 00:13:01.768 - for each of the services there. So if you have any questions and then also I believe Sarah and one of 00:13:01.768 --> 00:13:09.282 - her colleagues is on the line if we have any more detailed questions or wanna know anything else. Okay, 00:13:09.282 --> 00:13:10.366 - any questions? 00:13:10.658 --> 00:13:17.577 - from the board. If you're having trouble finding in your packet, the monthly cost for the water line 00:13:17.577 --> 00:13:24.634 - protection is 590. For the sewer line, it's 954. If you buy those together, it's 1250. And then if you 00:13:24.634 --> 00:13:31.553 - wanted an add on in home plumbing, that's 899. For the water line, it covers $30,000 per occurrence. 00:13:31.553 --> 00:13:38.883 - That includes $15,000 for infrastructure. So that's the sidewalk or whatever that may be. And then $15,000 00:13:38.883 --> 00:13:39.774 - for the line 00:13:40.034 --> 00:13:47.497 - In my experience, that $15,000 for the service line repair will be more than enough, especially on the 00:13:47.497 --> 00:13:54.744 - water side, and that 15K should be way more than enough to service any of the infrastructure costs, 00:13:54.744 --> 00:14:01.990 - especially sidewalks and things of that nature. On the sewer side, it's the same kind of breakdown. 00:14:01.990 --> 00:14:09.598 - Again, the material labor costs, that should be sufficient. That $15,000, the infrastructure, maybe not, 00:14:09.730 --> 00:14:16.951 - It depends on where you live and where that sewer main lies relative to your house. But for the most 00:14:16.951 --> 00:14:24.172 - part, it will offset a large portion of that. The other thing that may be of note within their thing 00:14:24.172 --> 00:14:31.321 - is the customer must be signed up for their program for I think 30 days and Sarah can correct me if 00:14:31.321 --> 00:14:38.470 - that's wrong. Yeah, Amanda. First of all, I'm really glad that we are doing this and I do hope that 00:14:38.470 --> 00:14:39.614 - the public will 00:14:40.194 --> 00:14:47.570 - take some interest in purchasing this, I mean, it's insurance. It's a gamble. It may or may not happen, 00:14:47.570 --> 00:14:54.804 - but when it does happen, it's very, very costly to a homeowner. So for all of those who are out there 00:14:54.804 --> 00:15:01.968 - listening, and as you start to see these, this is a legitimate program, and it is something that you 00:15:01.968 --> 00:15:09.982 - do not want this expense without an insurance. One of the questions I had, is this policy, or are these policies 00:15:10.082 --> 00:15:19.974 - only being offered to homeowners? Are they being extended to business owners? I believe so. I believe 00:15:19.974 --> 00:15:28.993 - if you are a customer in our with us that you can purchase this. Sarah, that's correct. Yes, 00:15:28.993 --> 00:15:38.206 - this is Sarah. Nice to meet you. I'm the business development director for the central region. 00:15:38.594 --> 00:15:48.648 - And yes, so we primarily focus on homeowners and so that would be the folks who would be receiving our 00:15:48.648 --> 00:15:58.605 - communication. So a question for you. I'm a landlord and I own properties that are on CBU billing. So 00:15:58.605 --> 00:16:07.390 - is my cost the same if I have an apartment complex that has 38 units in it and one sewer? 00:16:09.666 --> 00:16:17.806 - We don't cover apartment complexes, so we can do duplexes, for example, but we focus on single-family 00:16:17.806 --> 00:16:25.787 - homes as our primary customers. But if you are a landlord for a single-family home, you are able to 00:16:25.787 --> 00:16:34.087 - purchase this program for your rental unit. And I guess so then my next question, my follow-up question 00:16:34.087 --> 00:16:37.598 - is, is there some sort of program available 00:16:38.978 --> 00:16:47.682 - There are buildings that are going to have, there's multi-unit apartment complexes all throughout 00:16:47.682 --> 00:16:56.829 - Bloomington, but there are also several, as you mentioned, duplexes, which that's great. But there are 00:16:56.829 --> 00:17:05.888 - some that are, I'll give you an example. It is one home has three separate units in it. We get a bill 00:17:05.888 --> 00:17:08.286 - for that. We pay for that. 00:17:08.738 --> 00:17:17.901 - And we are on trash, because it's less than three units, or three or less units, we also pay for trash 00:17:17.901 --> 00:17:27.420 - pickups. So that would not be eligible. I believe we can service up to four connections within a residence 00:17:27.420 --> 00:17:36.584 - or a unit. So I believe that that would be covered. And Jeff, you can chime in if I'm mistaken. That's 00:17:36.584 --> 00:17:37.918 - exactly right. 00:17:38.018 --> 00:17:46.421 - just the larger buildings that our product does not cover. But it's certainly something we could explore 00:17:46.421 --> 00:17:54.665 - and partner as a future state. OK. If one wanted to inquire about properties and getting this on, what 00:17:54.665 --> 00:18:02.668 - would they need to do? Oh, so how would a resident enroll in our program? Sure. Is that OK? Well, I 00:18:02.668 --> 00:18:07.710 - guess a resident, but also I'm thinking in terms of landlords, 00:18:08.226 --> 00:18:15.627 - who have these, you know, landlords, small businesses that own a restaurant that's in a house that is, 00:18:15.627 --> 00:18:23.388 - you know, like our Fourth Street restaurant, they would be eligible or no? Jeff, any considered commercial? 00:18:23.388 --> 00:18:30.574 - Yeah, so I can take this. So as James mentioned, and I'm Jeff Ellis, I'm Senior Vice President here 00:18:30.574 --> 00:18:34.526 - at OnCourse. So thank you so much for having us today. 00:18:34.818 --> 00:18:43.961 - So we will be getting a customer list from the CBU and then we will be preparing marketing materials 00:18:43.961 --> 00:18:53.013 - that, as James mentioned, get approved by the CBU and are designed for education. As you mentioned, 00:18:53.013 --> 00:19:00.798 - these are things that are optional and we just need to educate people of what they're 00:19:00.962 --> 00:19:08.530 - responsibilities are and let them make the choice that is right for them, right, and their risk tolerance. 00:19:08.530 --> 00:19:15.885 - And articulate what is and is not covered very clearly. So in the case that you mentioned, and as Sarah 00:19:15.885 --> 00:19:23.241 - mentioned, the program is primarily designed for single family dwellings. We can accommodate up to four 00:19:23.241 --> 00:19:27.838 - units. So it just depends on the structure. If it is commercial, 00:19:28.002 --> 00:19:35.396 - You know, we can work with CBU to figure out what exactly would be covered so that we're sending the 00:19:35.396 --> 00:19:42.864 - right materials to the right, you know, eligible party. Right. That's great. Because again, you know, 00:19:42.864 --> 00:19:50.478 - the restaurants on 4th Street are, you know, have singles hookup to those houses. And if we could offer 00:19:50.478 --> 00:19:57.726 - this to homeowners, why couldn't we also offer it to business owners that are in those situations? 00:19:57.858 --> 00:20:06.012 - And in many cases, you'll find that there are rental units above the restaurants in the home that's 00:20:06.012 --> 00:20:14.574 - on the street. So I would encourage us to do that. I think it's wonderful that we're doing it for single 00:20:14.574 --> 00:20:22.891 - family and homeowners. But there is another market here that may find it very beneficial to have this 00:20:22.891 --> 00:20:27.294 - type of opportunity of insurance for them. Fantastic. 00:20:27.970 --> 00:20:36.639 - Jeff and Sarah, I think what you're hearing is our customer base is a little different than a lot of 00:20:36.639 --> 00:20:45.221 - the municipalities that you probably work with. We have a high number of rental units because we're 00:20:45.221 --> 00:20:53.976 - a college town, and you've probably been exposed to that kind of customer mix. But for us, it's a big 00:20:53.976 --> 00:20:56.894 - part of our customer base because 00:20:57.570 --> 00:21:05.833 - Over half of the Indiana University students live off campus in different types of rental units, from 00:21:05.833 --> 00:21:14.097 - single family to very large buildings. So yeah, it's something we have to take a look at to represent 00:21:14.097 --> 00:21:22.279 - all of our rate payers. I have a couple. So this is maybe kind of an offshoot of Amanda's, and maybe 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:26.654 - it was answered, and I just didn't get it in my mind. 00:21:26.882 --> 00:21:33.862 - So I know that many of the single-family homes that are rentals in our community are in the tenant's 00:21:33.862 --> 00:21:40.773 - name for their utility bill. And I think that the property owner would probably want the insurance. 00:21:40.773 --> 00:21:47.752 - So for the CBU, just thinking about how, I mean, maybe you already have a plan, but how will that be 00:21:47.752 --> 00:21:54.663 - rolled out to the property owners when they're not the ones paying the utility bill each month? And 00:21:54.663 --> 00:21:55.838 - then to confirm, 00:21:56.034 --> 00:22:03.435 - This program is kind of, you know, approval through the CBU, but if a claim is made, you know, the contacts 00:22:03.435 --> 00:22:10.014 - will be made with them. The work will be done by them. We are not completing the work. Correct. 00:22:10.014 --> 00:22:16.867 - Thank you. And then when do we, I know that policy owners would have 30 days to be under the policy 00:22:16.867 --> 00:22:24.062 - before they'd be eligible for a claim. When do we anticipate a rollout of our first customer signing up? 00:22:24.386 --> 00:22:32.475 - Well, we're doing a kickoff meeting next week. And then I know we have a timeline somewhere. It's fairly 00:22:32.475 --> 00:22:40.409 - quick. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully in June, is that, does that sound about right? Sarah? 00:22:40.409 --> 00:22:48.036 - Yes. It's eight weeks after contract signature. So when we will be ready for you. Okay. Thank you. 00:22:48.036 --> 00:22:52.350 - You know, Megan, that's a really good point because the 00:22:53.666 --> 00:23:00.646 - property owner would normally not get this mailing since, yeah, we're gonna have to work on that. Yeah, 00:23:00.646 --> 00:23:07.627 - we're trying to figure out how we do that. A lot of the accounts, we kind of, you know, Brian who works 00:23:07.627 --> 00:23:14.540 - in engineering has a lot of point of context when we have this issue of who actually owns the property 00:23:14.540 --> 00:23:21.118 - and we're trying to say, hey, you have an issue on the renter side that it needs addressed. Yeah. 00:23:22.114 --> 00:23:29.262 - Cause I can see some of the, some of the landlords would be very interested in this. That cost isn't 00:23:29.262 --> 00:23:36.552 - going to go to their tenants. That cost is something that's going to go to them to the property owner. 00:23:36.552 --> 00:23:43.700 - Yeah. Yeah. The tenant 98% of the time, unless some kid goes out and drill something into, you know, 00:23:43.700 --> 00:23:50.494 - into it and cause that problem, you know, a majority of these things are due to, you know, age, 00:23:51.010 --> 00:24:03.857 - They're due to some other construction company making a mistake. It's very rarely the owner intentionally 00:24:03.857 --> 00:24:17.310 - doing something to ruin their pipelines. And to address your question a little more about who will be handling 00:24:17.442 --> 00:24:22.451 - I had a couple long conversations with the city of Fort Wayne. They use this program to talk about, 00:24:22.451 --> 00:24:27.510 - you know, because we were like, well, really, how much time are we going to have to spend on it? And 00:24:27.510 --> 00:24:32.820 - they said they've been doing the program, I think, for five years, a little over five years. And I talked 00:24:32.820 --> 00:24:38.130 - to the customer service manager and she was like, you know, every once in a while, even at the beginning, 00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:43.490 - we had to, you know, know this is who you need to contact. But it wasn't an immense amount of time because 00:24:43.490 --> 00:24:46.846 - we were concerned about that as well, about how much time we would 00:24:47.202 --> 00:24:56.312 - have to run interference. And they said it was very minimal. And since we'll be providing a list of 00:24:56.312 --> 00:25:05.605 - our customers, then we'll on course provide a list back of people who have signed up for the program. 00:25:05.605 --> 00:25:15.353 - Will we know we'll know that? I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Question I had was, you mentioned 00:25:15.353 --> 00:25:16.446 - Fort Wayne, 00:25:16.866 --> 00:25:23.122 - And have you checked with some other cities to see how this program has worked with them and what their 00:25:23.122 --> 00:25:29.137 - feedback has been from customers? Mostly Fort Wayne. We included, I think maybe in the presentation 00:25:29.137 --> 00:25:35.333 - there was a thing about Detroit because we had some concern about in our conversations about who would 00:25:35.333 --> 00:25:41.468 - actually, people who have maybe can financially afford to replace these things would be the only ones 00:25:41.468 --> 00:25:45.438 - utilizing it and they had a very good case study in Detroit where 00:25:45.794 --> 00:25:52.185 - these different economic classes were actually utilizing it even better than we thought they would be. 00:25:52.185 --> 00:25:58.576 - But just personal communication was just with Fort Wayne, was the only one that I spoke with. Did they 00:25:58.576 --> 00:26:04.842 - report pretty good customer service satisfaction from the company? Yeah, their numbers were a little 00:26:04.842 --> 00:26:11.047 - lower than they had hoped in getting people on there, but they had never made a strong push to push 00:26:11.047 --> 00:26:15.390 - people to it, and that they were going to actually do that this year. 00:26:15.842 --> 00:26:24.080 - to try to get people to sign up. They had never made an effort to do that. I can't remember if they 00:26:24.080 --> 00:26:32.729 - were, where they were at in those numbers. I think it was around 5,000 is the number they were at. Okay, 00:26:32.729 --> 00:26:41.132 - and the other concern I have is since we're sharing this information with an external entity, it'd be 00:26:41.132 --> 00:26:45.086 - good to know what kind of protections on course 00:26:45.218 --> 00:26:53.648 - has and what's in what what provisions we have for them limiting the use of this information and security 00:26:53.648 --> 00:27:01.680 - for their databases. Maybe Sarah or Jeff could help us with that. Yeah, sure. I'm happy to elaborate 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:10.110 - a little bit more. So great questions. And I was purposely not trying again to let the dialogue continue. 00:27:10.274 --> 00:27:18.202 - Just for a little bit more context on who we are and our scale, so we actually came out of utility. 00:27:18.202 --> 00:27:26.765 - We were out of American Water, which you probably have heard of, and also NYCOR, which is Southern Company. 00:27:26.765 --> 00:27:35.486 - So we are very, very used to very tight data security, data privacy, and extremely tight regulatory scrutiny. 00:27:35.682 --> 00:27:42.975 - We actually are the exclusive endorsed partner for the National League of Cities, which probably some 00:27:42.975 --> 00:27:50.197 - of you have heard of, represents kind of the interests of cities, towns, and villages across the US. 00:27:50.197 --> 00:27:57.418 - And actually just won that in January for our customer service, our customer experience, and for the 00:27:57.418 --> 00:28:04.926 - other cities that we serve. So you mentioned Fort Wayne and Detroit. We power this program for New York. 00:28:05.154 --> 00:28:14.284 - Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Phoenix, Vegas, Wilmington, Delaware, and many others. So we've got over 2 million 00:28:14.284 --> 00:28:23.070 - customers, 95% customer satisfaction. And yes, we definitely have all sorts of top-notch security and 00:28:23.070 --> 00:28:32.028 - data privacy. Since we are go-to-market, it's through utilities just like CBU. And are there provisions 00:28:32.028 --> 00:28:33.406 - in place, Jeff, 00:28:33.634 --> 00:28:41.818 - you do not share this information outside your organization? 100%. Okay. All right. Other questions? 00:28:41.818 --> 00:28:50.487 - Yeah, Megan. This would be more for here. So say that $5.90 per month for the water line, correct? Mm-hmm. 00:28:50.487 --> 00:28:58.914 - Okay. And then $9.54 for the sewer. So regardless of how big your property is, how far your water sewer 00:28:58.914 --> 00:29:02.398 - line is from your house to the connection, 00:29:02.594 --> 00:29:11.619 - This is the price, this is what you'll receive, regardless if you're in the city or the county, if you're 00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:20.558 - a customer for this, this is the price. Okay, thank you. Okay, anything, any other questions? All right. 00:29:20.558 --> 00:29:29.923 - I move that we approve the agreement with On Course Home Solutions. Moved and seconded, any other discussion? 00:29:29.923 --> 00:29:32.222 - All in favor say aye. Aye. 00:29:32.546 --> 00:29:43.362 - Opposed? All right, motion carried, thank you. You're welcome, thank you. Next is the request for approval 00:29:43.362 --> 00:29:54.380 - of change order number one with TORC Engineering and Dan Hudson is here to discuss this one. Good afternoon, 00:29:54.380 --> 00:30:02.366 - I'm Dan Hudson, Capital Project Manager for the City of Bloomington Utilities. 00:30:03.010 --> 00:30:11.135 - Torik is our contractor for the Blue Tripul wastewater treatment plant that's doing the PLC and skate 00:30:11.135 --> 00:30:19.100 - upgrades. It's a pretty big job, but during the construction process, they found a spare conduit in 00:30:19.100 --> 00:30:22.366 - the back of the administration building. 00:30:22.722 --> 00:30:34.742 - that we can use to run our wires out. Before that, we thought we were gonna have to dig a trench and 00:30:34.742 --> 00:30:47.120 - bury it and do concrete work. So we're taking that off of their job. And so we get a savings of $23,562 00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:51.166 - for a new not to exceed $827,857. 00:30:51.842 --> 00:31:00.415 - Did you get that right? They also would like an extension at time for a month. Was it going to be at 00:31:00.415 --> 00:31:08.903 - the end of May? Do you like to go to June? I think it's fine. Dan, the memo says extending to July, 00:31:08.903 --> 00:31:17.646 - it looks like. There's two different dates. Oh, we do? OK. The bottom says July. And then in the memo, 00:31:17.646 --> 00:31:20.702 - it says June 20. Oh, it's June. OK. 00:31:20.802 --> 00:31:30.613 - June it is. June, yes. Oh, it does say July. Oh, sorry. It's all right. Well, as long as we approve 00:31:30.613 --> 00:31:40.621 - June 26, we're good. Yeah, right. All right. Any questions for Dan? I hope that we approve the change 00:31:40.621 --> 00:31:50.334 - order for Torque Engineering. All right. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:31:51.298 --> 00:31:59.527 - Motion carries. Hey, it's always good to save some money. Thank you, Dan. Next then is the approval 00:31:59.527 --> 00:32:07.838 - of service agreement with Xylem Water Solutions. Xylem is the main, is the manufacturer name for our 00:32:07.838 --> 00:32:16.149 - flight pumps. And those in the industry know the flight pumps is like the top pump that you can buy. 00:32:16.149 --> 00:32:20.510 - It's really good pump. We have five of those in the, 00:32:20.706 --> 00:32:30.069 - Influit pump station, Dillman. They've been there 18 years or so, and recently, it's called a MAS unit, 00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:39.521 - but it's spelled M-A-S. I have to say that. I don't know why they pronounce it MAS, but it's M-A-S unit. 00:32:39.521 --> 00:32:49.694 - And that unit takes the information from the pump, temperature, vibration, amp readings and everything, and then 00:32:50.306 --> 00:32:58.525 - analyzes it and determines if the pump should run. Well, we had recently just one of those units broke, 00:32:58.525 --> 00:33:06.744 - okay, and we tried to replace it. And you can't replace it, of course, with the existing unit. You have 00:33:06.744 --> 00:33:15.358 - to buy a new, improved, upgraded unit. And so we've decided that if one is broken, we better do all of them. 00:33:16.130 --> 00:33:28.191 - and we can't replace them ourselves. They have to be done by a xylem technician and they are asking 00:33:28.191 --> 00:33:40.734 - $92,981 and 54 cents to do that. Okay. Any questions for Dan on this one? So there is a correction then 00:33:40.734 --> 00:33:42.302 - to the memo. 00:33:42.562 --> 00:33:51.762 - Because the contract does say moss unit, but it should be mass, moss, but M-A-S, capital M, 00:33:51.762 --> 00:34:02.062 - capital A-S. I know, me too, because I thought... This is very difficult. Thank you. Well, so we don't 00:34:02.062 --> 00:34:08.862 - have much moss in the... In the mass. In the Dillman plan, I guess. 00:34:10.018 --> 00:34:16.951 - If we did, we're upgrading it to it, right? Yes, right, we're upgrading it. So they're new and approved. 00:34:16.951 --> 00:34:23.554 - Okay, any other questions for Dan? All right. I know that we approved the contract with Xilin Water 00:34:23.554 --> 00:34:30.354 - Solutions. Second. All right, moved and seconded. Anything else? All right, all in favor say aye. Aye. 00:34:30.354 --> 00:34:37.155 - Opposed? All right, motion carries. I do want to say with that, a little addendum, that I'll be coming 00:34:37.155 --> 00:34:39.070 - to the board for an addendum 00:34:39.522 --> 00:34:47.361 - for contractors doing a PLC upgrade, and we're going to take that data and take it into our SCADA system 00:34:47.361 --> 00:34:54.976 - so we can start using it for statistical process control, predicting maintenance, you know, some cool 00:34:54.976 --> 00:35:02.441 - stuff that we're going to try to do. Right now it's not being used anywhere. It's just in the pump, 00:35:02.441 --> 00:35:07.294 - and we're going to try to bring it into our system. Great. Okay. 00:35:07.938 --> 00:35:15.721 - The next item on the agenda is the request for approval of revised service agreement within power. This 00:35:15.721 --> 00:35:23.503 - one you have seen this contract before fact last board meeting and you're probably wondering why you're 00:35:23.503 --> 00:35:31.436 - seeing it again. It's the same price for two hundred ninety four dollars two hundred ninety four thousand 00:35:31.436 --> 00:35:34.878 - five hundred dollars. What happened in power. 00:35:35.778 --> 00:35:43.636 - got the project and decided to look at it, read it. And they said, oh, there's a few things we'd like 00:35:43.636 --> 00:35:51.418 - to change on it. And there was a couple of articles they changed. And they sent it back to me. And I 00:35:51.418 --> 00:35:59.122 - gave it to legal. And legal looked at it and said, well, OK, it's not changing anything substantial 00:35:59.122 --> 00:36:02.974 - in the contract. It's not changing the agreement. 00:36:03.106 --> 00:36:15.822 - or anything, it's just some administrative words. So we've accepted what they ask us to do, but now 00:36:15.822 --> 00:36:28.665 - it needs to be re-signed again. Okay. All right. Any discussion or questions? I move that we approve 00:36:28.665 --> 00:36:32.734 - the revised work agreement with 00:36:32.834 --> 00:36:42.895 - in Power Inc. All right, moving and seconded. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:36:42.895 --> 00:36:52.568 - All right, motion carries. Thank you. And our next item is request for approval of the change order 00:36:52.568 --> 00:37:01.758 - number one within situ form technologies. I'm going to do that. You're going to do that? Okay. 00:37:02.146 --> 00:37:11.797 - Phil couldn't make it this evening, so he asked me to do it. This project is done. It's just we're finishing 00:37:11.797 --> 00:37:20.652 - up the paperwork, and we need to get some money back because we didn't do quite all of the project. 00:37:20.652 --> 00:37:29.683 - It didn't need to be done. And so we are asking for a savings of $53,138.84. This is a lining project 00:37:29.683 --> 00:37:31.454 - with its situation. 00:37:33.794 --> 00:37:40.169 - All right, and I guess the question is, if we didn't do it all, do we still have more to do? No, 00:37:40.169 --> 00:37:46.938 - it's done. We're done. Okay. It's one of these where they looked at it, they videoed it, then they did 00:37:46.938 --> 00:37:53.839 - it, and they said, well, this really doesn't need to be done. Okay. It's plastic or something, you know. 00:37:53.839 --> 00:38:00.411 - Right, right. And so, actually, that neighborhood is complete. Great. And we save $53,000. That's a 00:38:00.411 --> 00:38:02.974 - good thing. Yeah, that's a good thing. 00:38:04.898 --> 00:38:12.028 - And just since you said it, I'm just to clarify, we've not already paid and we'll be getting a refund 00:38:12.028 --> 00:38:19.018 - for the $53,000. We just will deduct that from our final payment, correct? That's right. They don't 00:38:19.018 --> 00:38:26.217 - pay us $53,000. Right. We just don't pay them. I just wanted to confirm because I... Right. Thank you. 00:38:26.217 --> 00:38:31.390 - Exactly. Any other questions? Okay. All right. I move that we approve the 00:38:32.130 --> 00:38:42.429 - change order with in situ form technologies. All right, it's been moved and seconded. Any other discussion? 00:38:42.429 --> 00:38:52.537 - All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, motion carries then. You're done. Next is request approval 00:38:52.537 --> 00:39:01.406 - of a service agreement with Troy risk incorporated. And looks like we're ready for this one. 00:39:08.834 --> 00:39:17.990 - I'm not Kelsey Thetonia. I'm Liz Carter. I'm the MS4 program coordinator for the utility. And this contract 00:39:17.990 --> 00:39:27.061 - is a request for environmental management services related to our 8th and Fountain detention pond project. 00:39:27.061 --> 00:39:35.454 - Happy to take any questions. A retention pond at 8th and Fountain? Two of them. Two of them, okay. 00:39:39.106 --> 00:39:48.175 - kind of curious what kind of environmental management services they provide. Great question. So when 00:39:48.175 --> 00:39:57.244 - we did some soil sampling, it was a little, a little bit high for arsenic and lead. So they're going 00:39:57.244 --> 00:40:06.942 - to oversee our soils management plan on site. And so this is a retention facility that we own and maintain. 00:40:07.106 --> 00:40:13.396 - We haven't built it yet, but yes. Yes, it's two detention ponds and a little, a small piece at 8th and 00:40:13.396 --> 00:40:19.625 - Fountain, a piece of property that we have there and we should be starting construction as soon as we 00:40:19.625 --> 00:40:25.794 - finish up our permitting with other city departments, which I'm hoping to wrap up in the next couple 00:40:25.794 --> 00:40:32.328 - of weeks and then we can get started. So there'll be sampling as we go then? In one small area, I believe. 00:40:32.328 --> 00:40:36.542 - Okay. Yes. Do we have to get a certain clearance level before we can 00:40:36.738 --> 00:41:00.906 - begin construction. Is that Kelsey? Unsure. Okay. All right. Other questions for Liz? All right. We 00:41:00.906 --> 00:41:03.806 - approve the 00:41:04.994 --> 00:41:15.454 - contract with Troy risk. All right. Then moved and seconded. Thank you. Any other discussion? All in 00:41:15.454 --> 00:41:25.810 - favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Thank you. Thanks Liz. And then request for approval of the 00:41:25.810 --> 00:41:32.542 - resolution to 2026-09 to designate surplus property for auction. 00:41:33.954 --> 00:41:46.450 - Matt. We just have some pipe that we're wanting to scrap out. And so this one's pretty straightforward. 00:41:46.450 --> 00:41:58.586 - OK. Any other questions for Matt on our surplus property designation here? All right. I move that we 00:41:58.586 --> 00:42:01.950 - approve resolution 2026-09. 00:42:04.130 --> 00:42:12.298 - All right, then moving to second, any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, 00:42:12.298 --> 00:42:20.229 - resolution is approved. Next on the agenda is resolution 2026-10 to recommend an amendment to Title 00:42:20.229 --> 00:42:28.239 - II of the Bloomington Municipal Code regarding loans between utilities. Looks like Chris is here for 00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:33.790 - us. Good evening, Chris Wheeler with City Legal. Title II is where we 00:42:33.954 --> 00:42:41.525 - find the utility service board's provisions in our Bloomington Municipal Code. And what this resolution 00:42:41.525 --> 00:42:49.024 - is proposing is for the utilities to have flexibility to provide a loan from one utility to the other. 00:42:49.024 --> 00:42:56.376 - Doesn't matter which one, both will be able to loan money to the other. If there's a situation where 00:42:56.376 --> 00:43:01.982 - one utility is running a little bit short and the other one is flush, we can 00:43:02.562 --> 00:43:11.792 - pass money to the other in a form of a loan. In order to do that, we have to have the common council 00:43:11.792 --> 00:43:21.479 - pass an ordinance that reflects statutory language that would allow us then to be able to do these loans. 00:43:21.479 --> 00:43:31.166 - So this is the first step, having the board make a recommendation to council for approval of the addition 00:43:31.586 --> 00:43:39.886 - of a brand new section of Title II, which would allow us to start doing these loans. So it creates a 00:43:39.886 --> 00:43:48.103 - cash reserve fund for each utility, and then over time, if we ever need it, we can make use of that 00:43:48.103 --> 00:43:56.485 - loaning flexibility. This is sort of getting ready for the rainy day that may never come. But to give 00:43:56.485 --> 00:43:58.622 - us that flexibility. Yes. 00:44:00.962 --> 00:44:08.787 - Just for the record, this would be in addition to Title II, and this section would be, let's see, 2.24.091, 00:44:08.787 --> 00:44:16.105 - titled Administration of Utility Monies, Cash Reserve Fund, and Loans Between Utilities. Absolutely, 00:44:16.105 --> 00:44:23.641 - that's what Exhibit A is showing you. That's the language that we would propose. It is a paragraph that 00:44:23.641 --> 00:44:30.814 - basically runs through the statutory provisions and would allow us then, once council passes that, 00:44:31.778 --> 00:44:40.658 - New section of title two, once they do that, then we would have the ability to start funding the cash 00:44:40.658 --> 00:44:49.451 - reserve funds and be in a position to be able to do loaning if we needed to. Okay. And it looks like 00:44:49.451 --> 00:44:58.331 - Amanda might have a question. So thanks, Chris. So I have a question about this. Have we already been 00:44:58.331 --> 00:44:59.550 - doing this or 00:44:59.682 --> 00:45:06.928 - planning to do this and now we have not been doing this. I don't know whether previous iterations of 00:45:06.928 --> 00:45:14.245 - we ever did this, but this is the way we are supposed to do it. I thought we've actually talked about 00:45:14.245 --> 00:45:21.778 - it this year. We discussed the idea of wanting to loans. We've discussed the idea of wanting to do that. 00:45:21.778 --> 00:45:27.230 - But in order to be able to do it, we have to take these steps. That's okay. 00:45:27.906 --> 00:45:36.523 - So just to clarify, we have mentioned this on multiple occasions, I believe during our budget discussions. 00:45:36.523 --> 00:45:44.657 - And we have been watching our water cash flow very carefully to prolong the amount of time before we 00:45:44.657 --> 00:45:49.086 - would need to do something like this. And we still are 00:45:49.282 --> 00:45:56.396 - You know, we don't need to pull the trigger right now on a loan. But these are the steps we need to 00:45:56.396 --> 00:46:03.651 - take in order to be able to do that when or if we need to do it. Thank you. That's exactly what I was 00:46:03.651 --> 00:46:10.978 - trying to get at. I guess I was kind of under the assumption that we were already borrowing funds, but 00:46:10.978 --> 00:46:18.305 - we haven't. This is just what's getting put into place. So in the event that we do and we're following 00:46:18.305 --> 00:46:19.230 - the rules of 00:46:20.322 --> 00:46:28.156 - I'm sure when Chris was hearing all these ideas of what we were gonna do with loaning money, 00:46:28.156 --> 00:46:36.916 - he was going, wait a minute, we have to do this a different way. So thank you, Chris, thank you. You're 00:46:36.916 --> 00:46:45.424 - welcome. And I'm sorry, I didn't see your hand earlier. Oh, I, Chris just noticed my luck. There was 00:46:45.424 --> 00:46:47.614 - no hand. Good. All right. 00:46:48.130 --> 00:47:00.223 - Other questions about this resolution? New language? All right. I move that we approve resolution 2026-10. 00:47:00.223 --> 00:47:12.316 - Second. All right, it's been moved and seconded. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:47:12.316 --> 00:47:17.854 - All right. Thank you. Thank you. Motion carries. 00:47:18.530 --> 00:47:28.592 - Next on our agenda is old business. Is there any old business by the board? Old business by staff? No. 00:47:28.592 --> 00:47:38.751 - New business from the board? New business from staff? Okay. Subcommittee reports. I don't think we have 00:47:38.751 --> 00:47:46.078 - any today. No, but we did have a bid opening tonight. Yes. For the Dillman 00:47:46.274 --> 00:47:56.097 - Wastewater Treatment Plant Filter Rehab. We had three bidders. Dan and team will be reviewing the bids 00:47:56.097 --> 00:48:05.634 - and be back to us on May 4th with a recommendation. Very good. Thanks for covering that one for us. 00:48:05.634 --> 00:48:15.934 - Staff reports? None. None? All right. Any other petitions or communications from the public or others here? 00:48:18.466 --> 00:48:22.302 - Well, then that concludes our agenda. We'll stand adjourned. Thank you.