WEBVTT 00:00:00.450 --> 00:00:08.312 - All right it's time to call our meeting to order this utility service board for May 4th of 2026. Our 00:00:08.312 --> 00:00:16.719 - first item on the agenda is communications and petitions. Is there anything from the public? Communications 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:24.581 - or petitions? All right just a reminder that the City of Bloomington utilities mission is to enhance 00:00:24.581 --> 00:00:28.862 - the quality of life in our community by providing safe 00:00:29.218 --> 00:00:35.879 - sustainable and high-quality drinking water, wastewater, and stormwater services in a cost-effective 00:00:35.879 --> 00:00:42.605 - manner, promoting public health, economic vitality, and environmental stewardship. Our vision is that 00:00:42.605 --> 00:00:49.332 - CBU will be the leading municipal water utility organization in Indiana. And just to remind our board 00:00:49.332 --> 00:00:54.014 - members, if you have any personal or financial conflict or any issues, 00:00:54.338 --> 00:01:04.711 - or individuals on the agenda, then please be sure to recuse yourself during those portions of the meeting. 00:01:04.711 --> 00:01:14.986 - All right, the first item then is approval of minutes from our previous meeting of April 20th. All right, 00:01:14.986 --> 00:01:23.614 - it's been moved and seconded to approve the minutes of April 20th. Any other discussion? 00:01:24.962 --> 00:01:33.576 - In favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, the minutes are approved. Next is standard invoices. Review 00:01:33.576 --> 00:01:42.686 - invoices for today. I have a few questions. Yeah. OK, on page three, my first question is city of Bloomington 00:01:42.686 --> 00:01:51.217 - fuel charge. And I guess just thinking more about our fuel this month with gas prices that are up, how 00:01:51.217 --> 00:01:52.542 - are we charged? 00:01:52.706 --> 00:01:59.403 - when there's a delivery of fuel, and then we pay that rate until there's another delivery of fuel, and 00:01:59.403 --> 00:02:05.970 - then that's our rate. How do they determine our charge for fuel? That I don't know. I just know they 00:02:05.970 --> 00:02:12.537 - track it by batch number. So I'm not sure I think about what the price is really cheap. Like, oh, at 00:02:12.537 --> 00:02:18.714 - the end of the month, it's $4.99. So everybody pays $4.99. Or when you got your biggest loads, 00:02:18.714 --> 00:02:20.990 - it was $4.23. And so we pay $4.23. 00:02:21.698 --> 00:02:30.653 - At some point, could you inquire about that, please? Thank you. OK. Next question. Environmental Systems 00:02:30.653 --> 00:02:39.609 - Research Institute, also on page three, the small government enterprise subscription. What's that? Esri. 00:02:39.609 --> 00:02:48.564 - So Esri, that's our GIS. Oh, OK. Different letters. I didn't know that. Thank you. OK. And then my other 00:02:48.564 --> 00:02:50.782 - question. Let's see here. 00:02:55.330 --> 00:03:02.904 - Well, OK, on the page that my numbers cut off, but toward the back. And yes, it's page eight. Stantec 00:03:02.904 --> 00:03:10.405 - for the contract revision number two for rate design. For the water, I wasn't exactly sure what that 00:03:10.405 --> 00:03:18.127 - meant. So there's a couple of pieces to the water rate case. There's one, the revenue requirements need 00:03:18.127 --> 00:03:25.182 - to be defined. And we have a consulting company in Crow that defined our revenue requirements. 00:03:25.666 --> 00:03:30.681 - And then for proper cost of service study, we need a company like Stantec to dig into the details and 00:03:30.681 --> 00:03:35.844 - say, Kerr was saying we need this much money, and Stantec does the cost service study to say who's going 00:03:35.844 --> 00:03:40.761 - to pay their share. So this is just paying them for their continued work. This is the work they did 00:03:40.761 --> 00:03:45.728 - to get us prepared for the rate case that we're months into? Yes. Yes. OK. OK, thank you. I wouldn't 00:03:45.728 --> 00:03:50.645 - say it did the work they did to get us prepared. It's work they've done throughout, yes. Since that 00:03:50.645 --> 00:03:53.054 - we need to prove this is why we need this money. 00:03:57.538 --> 00:04:05.702 - Any other questions on standard invoices? Is that for a CDL requirement or something like that? Okay. 00:04:05.702 --> 00:04:14.267 - Just didn't have a dirt of that one before. And then for the entities that we have to do outfall sampling, 00:04:14.267 --> 00:04:20.670 - do we recover that cost from them or do we cover that for them on their behalf? 00:04:28.994 --> 00:04:39.735 - for outflow testing, like when we test for outflows, like do we recover that cost or charge that to 00:04:39.735 --> 00:04:50.582 - the entity or do we cover for him? Oh, okay. Cool. Thank you. Anything else on standard invoices for 00:04:50.582 --> 00:04:57.886 - approval? Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:04:59.106 --> 00:05:09.251 - Standard invoices are approved. Next are utility bills for the month. Total there is $19,952.34. Any 00:05:09.251 --> 00:05:19.798 - questions on utility bills? I move that we approve the utility bills. Second. All right. It's been moved 00:05:19.798 --> 00:05:28.638 - and seconded at all. Any other discussion on those? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:05:29.378 --> 00:05:55.596 - OK, utility bills are approved. Wire transfers in the amount of $667,091.43. Any questions on those? 00:05:55.596 --> 00:05:59.230 - I've got 606. 00:05:59.746 --> 00:06:13.053 - $7,091.43. I move that we approve the wire transfers. Second. Okay. Any other discussion? All in favor 00:06:13.053 --> 00:06:27.006 - of wire transfers, say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Wire transfers are approved. Next is customer refunds. 00:06:30.402 --> 00:06:39.417 - Discussion on customer refunds for this month. All right. I move that we approve the customer refunds. 00:06:39.417 --> 00:06:48.607 - Second. All right, it's been moved and seconded. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, customer 00:06:48.607 --> 00:06:56.222 - refunds are approved. Next is the special check run for stormwater fees to the county. 00:07:00.194 --> 00:07:07.359 - Discussion. Yeah. It's for taxes. Is this like property tax on these places? No, it's just a stormwater 00:07:07.359 --> 00:07:14.800 - fee for these locations. For these sites? These sites are in the county. Okay. And so it's their stormwater 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:21.690 - fees. So it's labeled taxes because I think they're normally charged with property taxes. Okay. But 00:07:21.690 --> 00:07:23.550 - we don't pay those though. 00:07:32.930 --> 00:07:41.706 - All right, any other questions on stormwater fees for our facilities? I move that we approve the special 00:07:41.706 --> 00:07:50.315 - check run. Second. All right, it's been moved in. No, yeah, special check run. Moved and seconded. Any 00:07:50.315 --> 00:07:58.840 - other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, motion carries then. And next is the 00:07:58.840 --> 00:08:01.598 - consent agenda. Director Zeiger. 00:08:02.690 --> 00:08:08.810 - Good evening. I'm Catherine Zegar, utilities director. I'm presenting tonight's consent agenda, 00:08:08.810 --> 00:08:15.377 - totaling $23,300. The first contract is with commercial service of Bloomington Inc. for $5,125 for the 00:08:15.377 --> 00:08:21.880 - main building server room mini split replacement at Monroe Water Treatment Plant. Next is with Course 00:08:21.880 --> 00:08:28.510 - in Fire and Security for $3,175 for annual plant equipment inspections at Blucher, Dillman, and Monroe. 00:08:29.794 --> 00:08:36.387 - Last is with First Appraisal Group, Inc. not to exceed $15,000 for the appraisal of easements for six 00:08:36.387 --> 00:08:43.109 - properties associated with the Dillman Relief Sewer Project. Is there any member who wishes to consider 00:08:43.109 --> 00:08:49.702 - one or more of these items individually? Hearing none, if there is no opposition, these items will be 00:08:49.702 --> 00:08:55.454 - approved as recommended by staff. Hearing no opposition, the consent agenda is approved. 00:08:59.586 --> 00:09:08.521 - Thank you. Item six on our agenda is to request approval of the service agreement with Electric Plus 00:09:08.521 --> 00:09:17.544 - for the Monroe plant. Hello, I'm Dan Hudson, capital project manager for the city of Bloomington. I'm 00:09:17.544 --> 00:09:26.568 - filling in for Hector. He's not here tonight. About a year ago, we went under contract with a company 00:09:26.568 --> 00:09:29.310 - to do maintenance on our large 00:09:29.826 --> 00:09:36.899 - high voltage and medium voltage equipment. That includes taking the breakers out and cleaning them and 00:09:36.899 --> 00:09:43.766 - making sure everything works right and putting them back. But you have to shut down the plant to do 00:09:43.766 --> 00:09:50.771 - that. And in our planning process, we've decided that it's a good idea to keep our servers running so 00:09:50.771 --> 00:09:55.166 - we have data coming in and also keep the lab running because we 00:09:55.266 --> 00:10:05.429 - do laboratory analysis like every hour. And this may take like up to 10 hours to do. So we'd like to 00:10:05.429 --> 00:10:15.491 - hire Electric Plus to help us wire an existing generator that we have, a portable generator that we 00:10:15.491 --> 00:10:24.446 - borrow from T&D to run the servers in the lab. We also want to rent a portable generator 00:10:24.578 --> 00:10:33.914 - to run one of the pumps. One of the pumps we can run because it is a high level pump. It's on 480 volts 00:10:33.914 --> 00:10:43.609 - and we have a generator. We can run a generator to do that. The idea is we don't want to lower the pressure 00:10:43.609 --> 00:10:53.214 - in the system. So we have to have water notices during this time. So that's our plan for electric plus for 00:10:53.410 --> 00:11:04.280 - $8,813. Any questions? Yeah, thanks. And this is probably a good time to do this with the campus kind 00:11:04.280 --> 00:11:15.044 - of winding down as of this weekend. You probably thought of that. So usage should be down a bit with 00:11:15.044 --> 00:11:21.758 - the campus pretty much in a reduced state for the summer. Yes. 00:11:23.042 --> 00:11:37.796 - So do we kind of proactively top off all the tanks before we do this in case we have problems? 00:11:37.796 --> 00:11:50.686 - Oh, absolutely. Everything's topped off. The superintendent is here. Great. Sorry. 00:11:54.722 --> 00:12:04.715 - Yeah, so we topped the tanks off the night before. And so they're ready for the day. So if you looked 00:12:04.715 --> 00:12:14.709 - at last year's usage about this week, you'd know about how many gallons we'd go through on an average 00:12:14.709 --> 00:12:24.702 - day like this. Yeah, we pretty much so. Usually after graduation, we have a lull for about two weeks. 00:12:25.250 --> 00:12:33.845 - And it starts to pick up as people start filling their pools up for Memorial Day. Makes sense. Yeah. 00:12:33.845 --> 00:12:42.696 - So it is, it's really an advantageous time to do it. Good planning. Yeah. So we've got them all tapped, 00:12:42.696 --> 00:12:51.717 - topped off like that and you're down in production. How much water do we have in the tank? So many hours? 00:12:51.717 --> 00:12:54.270 - So usually as far as the, uh, 00:12:55.298 --> 00:13:04.316 - distribution goes to keep the fire suppression above the green line. We have about six hours. The actually 00:13:04.316 --> 00:13:12.829 - this we're only planning on this taking three. So, but in the meantime with pump five, we'll be able 00:13:12.829 --> 00:13:21.342 - to pump 8 million gallons to town. Still. That's the pump we're going to generate. That's what we're 00:13:24.578 --> 00:13:31.360 - You mentioned low pressure, potentially don't run that pump. Is it pretty much guaranteed to go below 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:38.076 - that 20 PSI? It's going to be close. Okay. Close enough that we're worried about it. Yeah. You know, 00:13:38.076 --> 00:13:44.925 - the other option was to go the night before and that was, you know, it would have been another $15,000 00:13:44.925 --> 00:13:51.707 - add-on to the company and us doing the work. So, you know, we thought, well, probably the better idea 00:13:51.707 --> 00:13:53.502 - is to keep a pump running. 00:13:54.114 --> 00:14:02.212 - And so with this solution, we can do that. What was the date we were looking at? The 12th. Next Tuesday. 00:14:02.212 --> 00:14:10.156 - So let the fire department know you're going to do this? I sent them an email this morning. Very good. 00:14:10.156 --> 00:14:18.562 - Because if they have an issue, you need to know before anybody else does so that you can adjust accordingly. 00:14:18.562 --> 00:14:22.110 - We usually can tell if they do have an issue. 00:14:27.842 --> 00:14:36.174 - Good. Sounds like you don't do this very often, huh? No. I don't think it's ever been. Yeah. So. Preventive 00:14:36.174 --> 00:14:43.888 - maintenance. It's a good thing. All right. Other questions? Any other discussion? All right. I move 00:14:43.888 --> 00:14:51.834 - that we approve the contract with electric plus zinc. Second. I move and second. All in favor say aye. 00:14:51.834 --> 00:14:56.926 - Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you for your time. 00:14:57.922 --> 00:15:07.159 - for coming tonight. Next on the agenda is item seven, request for approval of amendment number one to 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:16.577 - the agreement with Wexler Engineering. Dan is back. Yeah, Dan Hudson, Capital Projects Manager. I don't 00:15:16.577 --> 00:15:25.814 - know if I need to state that again. Last board meeting, I went to you guys about Xylem project we had 00:15:25.814 --> 00:15:27.806 - about replacing these 00:15:28.226 --> 00:15:37.119 - devices in our flight pumps. And to do the whole project, it actually is going to take three contracts. 00:15:37.119 --> 00:15:45.841 - One is for Xylem, one for Wessler, and one for Electric Plus. That's what I'm doing here. The Wessler 00:15:45.841 --> 00:15:54.393 - part of it is to integrate, to take all the data, put it in our SCADA, and put it in the historian. 00:15:54.393 --> 00:15:56.958 - So Wessler has a project now. 00:15:57.186 --> 00:16:08.253 - at the headworks, and they're working on the SCADA system. So we just ask for an amendment for them, 00:16:08.253 --> 00:16:19.320 - and they are asking for $33,000 for a new not to exceed $288,000 to do that. Is there any questions? 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:25.566 - That's good. Any questions or discussion for Mr. Hudson? 00:16:28.610 --> 00:16:35.231 - I move that we approve the first amendment to the Professional Service Agreement with Western Engineering. 00:16:35.231 --> 00:16:41.665 - Second. I move and second to any other discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right motion 00:16:41.665 --> 00:16:48.286 - carries. It's approved. And next then is the request for approval of service agreement with Electric Plus. 00:16:49.538 --> 00:16:59.955 - This is the third project. We need someone to hang the wires, to put the conduit up, and to wire everything 00:16:59.955 --> 00:17:09.891 - from the flight pumps to the, I don't know if it's an RTU or PLC, but to the device at the system that 00:17:09.891 --> 00:17:15.678 - picks up the data. And Electric Plus is asking for $15,950. 00:17:19.874 --> 00:17:31.603 - OK. Questions for Dan? I move that we approve the contract with Electric Plus. Second. Move and second. 00:17:31.603 --> 00:17:42.880 - Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. That request is approved. Item 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:49.534 - nine is request for approval of the service agreement with 00:17:50.018 --> 00:17:59.401 - Thermoelectron North America, LLC. Kelsey. Hi, I'm Kelsey Thetonia, Assistant Director for Environmental. 00:17:59.401 --> 00:18:08.518 - This is a contract with Thermoelectron for a annual service plan for ICPMS instrument, which runs lead 00:18:08.518 --> 00:18:17.192 - samples for drinking water. I'm sorry, could you repeat what you said? Yeah. It was hard to hear. 00:18:17.192 --> 00:18:19.582 - I'm sorry. I heard annual. 00:18:19.714 --> 00:18:26.239 - service plan for what? It's a service plan with Thermo for just basic maintenance of our ICPMS instrument 00:18:26.239 --> 00:18:32.703 - in the lab. So that's analysis for lead? Yep. Does it do anything else for us or can you do other agents 00:18:32.703 --> 00:18:38.983 - with it? Right now we only use it for lead. We have an AA for iron and manganese. Is that what we use 00:18:38.983 --> 00:18:45.139 - when some like a customer if they get their lead service line they request? Yes, we're using it for 00:18:45.139 --> 00:18:48.894 - the lead service line. I know Justin said he had over 600 of 00:18:49.666 --> 00:18:56.480 - He has. Yes. Great. OK. That's a good. I hadn't heard a follow up number on that. Yeah. Quite a bit. 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:03.361 - Yeah. A lot of interest in that program. We still have over 9,000 unknowns, but this is a step in the 00:19:03.361 --> 00:19:10.309 - right direction to be able to identify the areas where we need to do further investigation. Great. Any 00:19:10.309 --> 00:19:17.123 - other questions for Kelsey? All right. I move that we approve the contract with Thermoelectron North 00:19:17.123 --> 00:19:18.270 - America. Second. 00:19:18.978 --> 00:19:27.962 - Move and second it in the other discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Motion carries. 00:19:27.962 --> 00:19:36.358 - Thank you very much. Item 10 is the request for approval of resolution 2026-11 to designate surplus 00:19:36.358 --> 00:19:44.755 - property for auction. Matt Havy. I think there's one item on the list. It's a shelf that I'm trying 00:19:44.755 --> 00:19:46.014 - to get rid of. 00:19:46.978 --> 00:19:54.311 - Sardis are coming so often. This is the third time in a row. We were late on the first one. The second 00:19:54.311 --> 00:20:01.787 - one came on time, and we're doing this one early for some reason. So that's why they've been three times 00:20:01.787 --> 00:20:08.906 - in a row. So clear it out. And there goes the file cabinet. There it goes. Another file cabinet out 00:20:08.906 --> 00:20:16.382 - the door. They're multiplying. Yeah, someplace. Ready for it? Yep. I move that we approve the resolution 00:20:16.514 --> 00:20:25.741 - All right it's been moved and seconded. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All 00:20:25.741 --> 00:20:35.692 - right resolution 2026-11 is approved. Next is item 11 request for approval of the memorandum of understanding 00:20:35.692 --> 00:20:46.366 - between the City of Bloomington utilities and our City Department of Public Works for utility infrastructure repairs. 00:20:46.850 --> 00:20:55.547 - Yeah, so this MOU that we're bringing is essentially a renewal of an MOU that we did last year where 00:20:55.547 --> 00:21:04.331 - we provide funding for four full-time DPW positions that provide repairs as needed upon completion of 00:21:04.331 --> 00:21:13.287 - CBU utility maintenance repairs and replacing infrastructure. So, for example, water main breaks, water 00:21:13.287 --> 00:21:15.870 - main replacements, et cetera. 00:21:16.066 --> 00:21:28.174 - They would provide the, you know, the paving curb work associated with it. And this is has shown to 00:21:28.174 --> 00:21:40.766 - be a mutually beneficial agreement. You know, they were so streets DPW is now using city works to track 00:21:40.930 --> 00:21:49.267 - their hours. They started using it at some point last year, so they didn't get a full year of tracking 00:21:49.267 --> 00:21:57.605 - in last year. But what they did track showed that, yes, these four positions use the majority of their 00:21:57.605 --> 00:22:05.780 - time to do follow up repairs on infrastructure following our utility repairs. So happy to answer any 00:22:05.780 --> 00:22:10.718 - questions. Yeah. Yeah. Why wouldn't we just hire them as our 00:22:10.914 --> 00:22:20.265 - I mean, if we're paying all the benefits, we're paying all this, why are they not positions just within 00:22:20.265 --> 00:22:29.346 - CBU? So they do. So these positions don't really do a lot of utility work. So they're not, you know, 00:22:29.346 --> 00:22:39.326 - actually repairing the mains, repairing the and we used to have just a I think we still do kind of have like a 00:22:41.602 --> 00:22:49.195 - Sorry, construction crew. But it works out better to have them follow behind us to do this paving, to 00:22:49.195 --> 00:22:56.937 - get it up to standard. And so, yeah. I'm assuming the equipment. I mean, the equipment. Yeah, they have 00:22:56.937 --> 00:23:04.679 - the equipment. They have all the equipment to do this. They have to deal with replacing that equipment, 00:23:04.679 --> 00:23:11.230 - maintaining that equipment. And we don't have to deal with any of that, which is great. 00:23:12.162 --> 00:23:21.362 - And we are funding these positions fully or are we doing a portion. This is full for full time positions 00:23:21.362 --> 00:23:30.125 - fully. Yes. Once I think it would be nice once we once they are using the data and we have it for a 00:23:30.125 --> 00:23:38.975 - year. I do think that if we come back to this MOU I will be asking the question of this is great and 00:23:38.975 --> 00:23:40.990 - let's show the data of 00:23:41.538 --> 00:23:50.376 - how much they are doing for us and how much they're doing. And I think we should look at a percentage 00:23:50.376 --> 00:23:59.214 - funding of those positions. Because correct me if I'm wrong, they're not 100% doing all work for CBU? 00:23:59.214 --> 00:24:08.225 - No, that's not right. They're helping us with the CBU project. So again, I think it would be beneficial 00:24:08.225 --> 00:24:11.518 - when we get to December of this year, 00:24:12.770 --> 00:24:20.474 - that we do request that data and then negotiate with them in terms of how much we are willing. I mean, 00:24:20.474 --> 00:24:28.103 - I think it's great. I think that we have this partnership and that we have funded it, but it may mean 00:24:28.103 --> 00:24:35.806 - in the future, perhaps we share in that expense. Of course, yes. I will say, and again, these are just 00:24:35.806 --> 00:24:42.014 - estimates because we didn't get the full year of data, that it did look like these 00:24:42.498 --> 00:24:50.227 - These positions were using upwards of probably 80% would be a good estimate of their time, which, 00:24:50.227 --> 00:24:58.350 - you know, if you consider the equipment cost and the maintenance costs that we're saving, I think that 00:24:58.350 --> 00:25:06.631 - still shook out to a pretty good deal. Sure. And again, this is, these are our rate payers and at, let's 00:25:06.631 --> 00:25:11.678 - just say 290,000. I could get my calculator to work times point 00:25:11.938 --> 00:25:22.511 - 20%, that's 58,000 that could be coming, the 20% would be 58,000 that could be supported by Public Works. 00:25:22.511 --> 00:25:32.485 - Does that make sense? Well, a little bit Amanda, except that, well I guess two questions. The first 00:25:32.485 --> 00:25:39.966 - thing I think as I understood it is we have to figure in the amount of the 00:25:41.474 --> 00:25:50.134 - the equipment used. So this includes... I could get on board with that. I could get on board with that. 00:25:50.134 --> 00:25:58.627 - You could pull that out of the 290 or whatever it is. I could get on board with that. And then I have 00:25:58.627 --> 00:26:07.120 - to ask the question if when they put the estimate together, did they estimate 80% or 100%? FTE. Yeah, 00:26:07.120 --> 00:26:08.702 - FTE for the crews. 00:26:09.250 --> 00:26:16.970 - I don't know. I believe this is 100%, yes. Well, then your point about this next year, once they figure 00:26:16.970 --> 00:26:24.466 - out they're hourly, we'd be more comfortable probably looking at it at 80% plus, you know, the usual 00:26:24.466 --> 00:26:31.592 - costs of equipment and pavers and we're paying for supplies for this. We're paying for asphalt, 00:26:31.592 --> 00:26:38.718 - the gravel, the concrete, the three, you know, all of that. The other part I like about this is 00:26:40.354 --> 00:26:49.508 - When we do a cut like this, it's gotta hit city standards, right? DPW standards. And if we were doing 00:26:49.508 --> 00:26:58.572 - it ourselves, there might be a little hesitation about, someone might ask the question, well, that's 00:26:58.572 --> 00:27:07.635 - not quite the city standard. But if they're doing it, we don't have to worry about that. I'm curious 00:27:07.635 --> 00:27:10.238 - how we were doing it before. 00:27:10.530 --> 00:27:19.495 - this? Were we just doing it in-house with our own workers? Yeah. Correct. Sorry. James Hall. Thanks. 00:27:19.495 --> 00:27:28.459 - James Hall, assistant director of TND. Yeah, we had a crew that would, as they were doing water main 00:27:28.459 --> 00:27:37.424 - replacement, they would kind of fall off and try to track back and do it. We've seen, again, part of 00:27:37.424 --> 00:27:39.998 - what you're talking about is 00:27:40.194 --> 00:27:46.566 - I used to answer a lot of calls about when is this going to be replaced? When is this now street department 00:27:46.566 --> 00:27:52.937 - handles all that? I'm like, you know, that's, they're going to fix that. You call down there, um, whatever. 00:27:52.937 --> 00:27:58.955 - Um, and so that's been a benefit for us as well. Um, and then as we move forward in our rate case and 00:27:58.955 --> 00:28:05.090 - hopefully into the future, those resources don't have to stop and go back and do that. We just continue 00:28:05.090 --> 00:28:08.158 - on doing water main replacement. So that's kind of. 00:28:09.698 --> 00:28:19.382 - without having to add crews. All right, any other questions on this MOU with city government? I move 00:28:19.382 --> 00:28:29.067 - that we approve the MOU between the city of Wilmington Utilities and the city of Wilmington. Second. 00:28:29.067 --> 00:28:39.614 - Been moved and seconded. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, motion carries. 00:28:39.842 --> 00:28:51.622 - that MOU approved. Next item is any old business from the board. Item 12, I'm sorry. This is request 00:28:51.622 --> 00:29:03.401 - for approval of the MOU between CBU and the retreat at Switchyard. I've got my mind. We talked about 00:29:03.401 --> 00:29:08.766 - this in committee, but we'll hear about that. 00:29:09.090 --> 00:29:15.845 - Yes. Well, that was my question. Do we wait until subcommittee reports, or do we do this here? I guess 00:29:15.845 --> 00:29:22.797 - I don't know. Well, it's on our agenda for now, so we probably ought to. We could go either way, I guess. 00:29:22.797 --> 00:29:29.683 - I don't want to be in the way. As part of our discussion, we get the committee report. How's that sound? 00:29:29.683 --> 00:29:36.635 - All right. OK. Well, let's see. Matt, are you going to give a slowdown first? So the Retriever Switchyard 00:29:36.635 --> 00:29:38.078 - is a development here 00:29:38.722 --> 00:29:46.860 - corner of Miller in Walnut. It was an affordable housing project that's been going on for several years 00:29:46.860 --> 00:29:54.841 - now. And as part of this project, they hooked up to the sewer. And as developments do this, we charge 00:29:54.841 --> 00:30:03.058 - them proportionally to the size of the sewer that they're going to use, what infrastructure that they're 00:30:03.058 --> 00:30:08.222 - going to drive us to buy. And as part of this development, it was 00:30:09.186 --> 00:30:15.772 - get the numbers that grow to say it's a little over $50,000 for them to connect to the sewer. Um, and 00:30:15.772 --> 00:30:22.552 - I think there was some little confusion on both sides is that they thought that since they were building 00:30:22.552 --> 00:30:29.009 - affordable housing, that they, this fee could be waived. Um, but then we took them through the city 00:30:29.009 --> 00:30:35.467 - statute and pointed out to them that we can only waive fees for a single family residences for, for 00:30:35.467 --> 00:30:37.662 - their connection fee. Um, and so. 00:30:38.370 --> 00:30:45.149 - They explained to us they were having a lot of challenges with this development and financially and 00:30:45.149 --> 00:30:52.198 - operationally. And so. We again we communicated that we could not waive the fee and so we had a meeting 00:30:52.198 --> 00:30:59.248 - and talked with them and came to an agreement that CBU would agree to give them a payment plan for five 00:30:59.248 --> 00:31:06.705 - years with no interest to pay this connection fee off. That's what this MOU is is documenting that agreement. 00:31:06.705 --> 00:31:07.518 - Thanks man. 00:31:08.866 --> 00:31:19.832 - And yes, we did talk about this one in the finance committee meeting prior to this meeting. So this 00:31:19.832 --> 00:31:31.128 - might be a good time, Jim, if you could give the report on the vote that the subcommittee took sending 00:31:31.128 --> 00:31:36.830 - it forward. Yeah, the subcommittee approved the MOU 00:31:36.994 --> 00:31:47.534 - with the addition of an amendment that if the property were sold during the five-year period during 00:31:47.534 --> 00:31:58.075 - which the hookup fee would be paid, the new owner of the property would be required to pay whatever 00:31:58.075 --> 00:32:04.926 - debt to CBU was owed in full at the time of closure of the sale. 00:32:06.946 --> 00:32:21.702 - Well, what we may need to do is table this so that it can go back to legal and they can write that language 00:32:21.702 --> 00:32:35.774 - in and then we could act on it in two weeks. And it wouldn't have to be the new owner just at closing. 00:32:36.674 --> 00:32:47.280 - it would be paid in full if there's a change of ownership. Because that could happen. So the only other 00:32:47.280 --> 00:32:57.682 - comment I'd have on this is that I think it's good public policy for us to be flexible with a project 00:32:57.682 --> 00:33:05.534 - like this that's been worked on by city government downtown giving them this 00:33:06.466 --> 00:33:15.428 - assistance more or less in the time it would allow them, because it's an affordable housing project, 00:33:15.428 --> 00:33:24.478 - it kind of shows our support for helping those projects as they come along to us, because we all know 00:33:24.478 --> 00:33:33.173 - that's a community priority now. So I think that's a good thing for us to do. But we need a verb. 00:33:33.173 --> 00:33:36.190 - All right, and I can't remember a 00:33:36.578 --> 00:33:48.521 - Tabling is open for discussion. I have to look. Anybody remember? It is not? All right. I'll take your 00:33:48.521 --> 00:34:00.347 - word for it. All right. All in favor of tabling? Second? Thank you. All in favor of tabling, say aye. 00:34:00.347 --> 00:34:03.710 - Opposed? OK. We have tabled. 00:34:04.066 --> 00:34:16.225 - Item 12, that MOU with our comments in the minutes. OK. Now I think we're ready for old business. Is 00:34:16.225 --> 00:34:28.143 - there any old business by the board? Any new business from the board? Oh, old business from staff. 00:34:28.143 --> 00:34:32.958 - Thank you. New business from the board. 00:34:34.210 --> 00:34:41.093 - go for it first? You can go first. It's the same thing. Okay. Well, thank you for sending us out the 00:34:41.093 --> 00:34:48.180 - press release a few weeks ago about the bulk water station facility being down. I was surprised to read 00:34:48.180 --> 00:34:55.403 - that it was not like a mechanical failure. It's like a payment system failure. And so even more surprised 00:34:55.403 --> 00:35:02.558 - to see that we couldn't get that back up and running until 2027, which is like seven months from now. So 00:35:02.722 --> 00:35:09.733 - Can you explain that to us why that that that's going to take so long and and kind of what's like their 00:35:09.733 --> 00:35:16.677 - daily usage of that boat water station and then like explain? OK, what's the work around for right now 00:35:16.677 --> 00:35:23.756 - for people who do utilize that service? How are they able to access both water? Sure, yeah, so the issue 00:35:23.756 --> 00:35:30.565 - is it is the credit card reader. It needs to be replaced and updated. We need to do service contract 00:35:30.565 --> 00:35:32.318 - in place with our current 00:35:32.450 --> 00:35:39.160 - um, they would not allow us to not have the credit card fees charged us that they had to flow through 00:35:39.160 --> 00:35:45.738 - us and get paid, paid out another way. Um, so I talked to legal, but they said that we need to find 00:35:45.738 --> 00:35:52.579 - another way to do it. Um, and so we looked for another way to do it and the new provider, uh, estimated 00:35:52.579 --> 00:35:59.486 - it would be $18,000 to replace it at the moment. Um, and we felt that given our situation with the water 00:35:59.486 --> 00:36:01.854 - money and, and we're going into the 00:36:02.466 --> 00:36:09.299 - getting a rate case we wanted to wait until we got that kind of money. And as far as usage, it doesn't 00:36:09.299 --> 00:36:15.933 - get a whole lot of usage. I think last year's revenue was $3,000. But people do use it. $3,000 is a 00:36:15.933 --> 00:36:22.766 - lot of water, right? And currently our workaround is to go back to hydrometers. So if people need bulk 00:36:22.766 --> 00:36:29.401 - water, they can come and run a hydrometer and get hooked up to the hydrant and get their water that 00:36:29.401 --> 00:36:30.462 - way. Thank you. 00:36:30.594 --> 00:36:36.898 - Is that information like on our website? So if someone who maybe missed it and shows up down there, 00:36:36.898 --> 00:36:43.202 - is there like signage that says come here or what? There's signage down there that says it's out of 00:36:43.202 --> 00:36:49.633 - order and in the press release it did mention that the hydrometer. So down there where it says out of 00:36:49.633 --> 00:36:56.126 - order it says like come here. I'm not sure about that but. Or call this number. Okay. Okay, thank you. 00:37:00.194 --> 00:37:09.904 - Yeah, I was just curious. I had a note that there was a rate hearing on April 30th. Was I incorrect 00:37:09.904 --> 00:37:20.294 - in that originally? Or was it May 30th, maybe? My hearing? Yes. Is it currently scheduled for this Friday? 00:37:20.294 --> 00:37:28.062 - This Friday. Thanks. Thanks, Graham. Megan, any other items under new business? 00:37:34.658 --> 00:37:43.178 - Anything else on, yeah, subcommittee reports. Jim, I know the Finance Committee had another item on 00:37:43.178 --> 00:37:51.782 - the agenda. You can give us a report on it. There were two items on the agenda. One of them has just 00:37:51.782 --> 00:38:00.387 - been discussed with the MOU with Restore. The other item on the agenda was a presentation by Matt, a 00:38:00.387 --> 00:38:03.710 - financial summary of 2025. It included 00:38:05.090 --> 00:38:17.629 - our expenses, the projects that we had, and the assets that were still available for CBU. The committee 00:38:17.629 --> 00:38:29.927 - found the presentation to be extremely useful and helpful. It ought to help us when we go through the 00:38:29.927 --> 00:38:33.182 - budget hearings next year. 00:38:36.834 --> 00:38:47.021 - told us that they were planning to make such presentations quarterly now so that every three months 00:38:47.021 --> 00:38:57.411 - we would get a summary of our expenses and our revenues and our projects. And we all thought that was 00:38:57.411 --> 00:39:05.662 - a really good thing. I just want to add that I was really surprised at how close 00:39:07.106 --> 00:39:16.173 - actual budget was to the expected budget. And I said that our own household budget never gets that close. 00:39:16.173 --> 00:39:24.897 - So kudos to the administration for what they do. So again, we thought this was a great idea and we're 00:39:24.897 --> 00:39:32.766 - happy that it will be continued. Thank you, Jim. Any questions for Jim on the subcommittee? 00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:49.863 - to staff reports. Yeah, I'd like to congratulate Madison Abel for earning her Class 1 wastewater license. 00:39:49.863 --> 00:40:01.077 - Great. Yeah, fantastic. Alright, next item 17 is petitions and communications. Items from the public. 00:40:01.077 --> 00:40:05.694 - Anybody here to address any other issues? 00:40:09.090 --> 00:40:11.902 - Seeing none, we will stand adjourned.