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- We call the meeting of the utility services board for June 1st, 2026 to order. We have several good

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- agenda items today and let's get started with petitions and communications from the public. Yes. And

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- if you'd like to come on up, you're welcome to come to the podium and state your name for the record.

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- Good evening. My name is Mary Ann Faday and my husband and I have owned the property at 501 East Cottage

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- Grove for well since 1992 and Lately we've had this horrible Flooding in the basement. I mean like excrement

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- and everything coming out of the commode and all that sorry I mean we've never had that kind of issue

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- in all these years and so I I know something has changed I just don't know what and I would like

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- Dave Kerber, our property manager, to discuss his findings, because we live in Carmel now, and Carmel

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- Westfield. So he's been taking care of the damage and keeping me apprised of it, and sent videos. I

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- know he sent some videos to some of you. And really, we need to do a lot of cleanup. Well, cleanup's

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- been done, but the repair, damages and everything. And we need to know when we can start and what

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- what's involved and when we can get an answer about whether or not the city is responsible for this

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- or not. So I'll let Dave talk about it. Yes. I don't think I've emailed any of you directly. I've been

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- emailing. I didn't recognize any of the names. But with this has happened now about seven times this year.

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- We just started taking over the property in August, so I can't speak too far to before that. And they've

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- just been smaller little backups that have been sort of under control. This last one on the 20th, which

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- sort of prompted us coming in here today. I sent videos to the three folks that we had. I can't get

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- all the names. Phil, James, and somebody else.

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- colleges only anyways this was this was more an introductory was recommended we come bring it up to

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- the board here to kind of get the ball rolling because something has changed if it didn't happen before

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- and now all of a sudden it's back and anyways the tenants have had to move out we had to rip the entire

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- place apart so there are some definite losses there and the biggest thing for us is we want to know

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- that moving forward this isn't going to keep backing up the way it is there was a gentleman that came by

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- I do appreciate that in a truck, the truck with the camera on the side of it, which is awesome because

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- it tells you what that truck is doing. But he said they weren't sure if they'd found a chunk of concrete

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- in the storm line. They didn't know if it was fiber optic lines that had punched through the storm and

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- somehow they were connected. They didn't know when they were out there the other day. They thought maybe

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- there had been a water main that had been busted

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- which would be amazing to me because that corner has been a symphony of sump pumps for over 10 years,

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- and maybe they did find that piece of it because now the sump pumps have all stopped since they were

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- out last week, so I think that could be a piece of it. Somebody else when we had called in said that

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- it could be because the capacity of it is less because everything's being lined as opposed to replaced,

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- and so you'd start factoring all these in with the new things being built. Anyways, something has changed

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- to the point that

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- It flooded. They've all moved out. We've had to rip the whole place apart. And we kind of want to, before

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- we go putting it all back together, have some concrete answer as to is somebody looking at it? Because,

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- you know, our last few emails, nothing, we haven't heard anything back. We recognize it's just one unit.

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- You know, it's one house. It's not a big old building. They offered us a check valve. But to their point,

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- Check valve makes essentially the four units there completely inoperable when it rains. Nobody could

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- use the water at that point because you can't. It basically just shuts the door on it. So I recognize

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- none of you guys have answers here today. And we're just putting it on the radar. But we've got about

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- a two-month run here, obviously, before the next group comes in. And we just want to know that something's

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- being done so that we don't have this situation again. So yeah.

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- Go ahead, sure. So just a fact. I'm also concerned about being compensated for this, because it's not

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- our fault. Everything in the house has been up to speed. We've done everything we're supposed to do,

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- the plumbing and everything. So now, it sounds like it's a city issue, but I just don't know. I just

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- would like to know if we could be at least compensated for the damages, because they're getting up into

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- the thousands now.

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- Anyway, thank you for listening. Great. We appreciate you coming by, because it's always good for us

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- to be as responsive as we can to our customers. And sometimes for us to know where our issues are are

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- a good thing for the board. Mary Ann, could you spell your last name for me? I need to get that for

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- the record. F is in Frank, A, D, like David, A, E, like Edward.

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- And David, what's your last name? K-E-R-B-E-R. OK. I got 501 East Cottage Grove. And it's a single family

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- home or? Well, it's a single family home that at some point in time, you would know better than me that

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- there's efficiencies on the back of it. But essentially, the original house is still there.

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- But the previous owner, when we bought it, had already put three efficiencies attached to the back of

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- the house. So essentially the kitchen window above the sink and all that was closed and three efficiencies

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- backed on it. It's been there a while. It's not a rebuilt. So I mean, that happened when we bought it

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- in 1992. So I don't know how much earlier he had done that, but that's how we found it.

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- What's the nearest cross street there? It's at Dunn and East Cottage Grove. Where? Dunn? Dunn. So just

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- north of Penn Street. It's right on the corner of the intersection. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of challenge

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- to it. You stand there, there's a hill coming down from all, you know, we don't know if it's the storm

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- water is, I mean, you open the lid and it is a whitewater rapids in the sewer system, so.

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- Either the sewer system is getting inundated with storm water or people are pumping the water in there.

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- I mean, I think it's probably a whole bunch of different factors, but it's definitely a big change from

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- what it has been. Obviously, they hadn't had this happen before. One thing that could help is if you

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- notice any particular events or times that this happens now pretty much any time we get a rain of about

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- An inch and it does I mean again that that that little spot I think it's just a natural drainage point.

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- But to where you know it won't rain for 48 hours and those pumps are still I mean it's just every pump

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- in that neighborhood is.

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- pumping water into the streets. Well you said it was affecting one unit but have have you confirmed

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- other issues in neighboring properties or have you spoken to any of the neighboring property owners

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- about this? I know that a few months ago Horn in the property next door they were having plumbing issues.

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- You know the first thing we did we had

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- Paul Young plumbing came out. They camored the whole thing confirmed that there was no no first time

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- we did it We thought it was just a blockage whatever the next time it rained it happened again They

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- came back out and they said we put the camera down there nothing in it clear all the way I mean they

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- ran the thing a hundred whatever plus feet couldn't find anything they were into the into the main So

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- there's nothing jumping out as to is an obstruction like I say the gentleman who had come out and I

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- wish I had gotten his name. We had a lot happen in that day, but that Friday after it happened,

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- the 22nd. Said that he had spent the day before, and they were looking at Cameron. He couldn't tell

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- if there was a random chunk of concrete that had gotten into the system that could be restricting flow.

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- We had a number of laterals that were punched through with the whole fiber optics up and down 10th Street.

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- It took about a year to rear their head.

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- So anyway, so I don't know. It could be a whole bunch of different things. And I know that they had

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- started to look into it. We just haven't heard anything. And this rose now to the level of everybody

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- moved out. So well, we weren't really livable. So we just want to make sure that. So we lost rent and

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- plus the cost of repair. Yeah. Well, thank you both. Sure.

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- I guess the biggest thing is we recognize you don't have any answers today, but in terms of moving forward

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- to be able to understand what's happening, should we provide you information or should we reach out

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- to somebody? Since we've got your names and addresses and what we'll do is talk with staff and make

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- sure that we're continuing to check and figure this out. So we will

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- Guarantee we'll get back in touch, because we realize that the cycle of things that happen, you may

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- have new residents in August you'd like. And we like to get these things fixed. We'd like to have a

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- result for you. Of course. Do you have an answer this week, this month, something? Just know what to

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- do. Well, we'll do our best. It's hard for me today to tell you where we are in the schedule.

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- Do you need my home address? Because that's the real problem. They've got it with him. Oh, okay.

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- Thank you. Thanks for coming in. We appreciate it. We'll get to work on it. Thank you. Okay, next item

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- on the agenda is the approval of minutes from

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- the meeting on May 18th. We had a chance to take a look at those. Rachel, you know, one thing I would

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- might help us a little bit as I was reviewing them. When Kevin White's presenting, we might want to

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- put Kevin White and even though you've got

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- staff member. Well, even if we put K in, it doesn't work. And a lot of people call me Kevin or Kurt

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- or whatever, you know, so you might just want to because I don't want to take credit for all of his

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- good work. Might help a little bit because years from now, we'll know the difference, right? I'll be

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- doing something else. Who knows where, right? Okay.

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- Any other additions or corrections to the minutes? I entertain a motion to approve. I move we approve

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- the minutes of the last meeting. Second. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion

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- carries. All right. Next is standard invoices. And we've got several pages of those.

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- looks like our total is $619,546.79. Any questions on standard invoices for these couple of weeks? I

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- have a curiosity. I know we paid us to have our sledge hauled, and maybe I asked this before, but where

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- does it go? It goes to the Sycamore. Sycamore?

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- Thank you. And another one for fun. UV disinfection. I've heard of that being used for swimming pool

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- water and things like that. Are we using this for wastewater drinking water systems or all the above?

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- Just for wastewater at a blucher pool. Just to help clean up the fluid? Yes. Cool. Thanks. Before it

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- gets discharged. Yes. Thank you. All right. Good questions.

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- Any other? We're just looking up where is Sycamore Landfill. So at Terre Haute, Pimento. Yeah. We're

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- all over trash cans. OK. Thank you. That's a long haul. OK. Other questions for standard invoices? I

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- move that we approve the standard invoices. Second. OK. We've been moved and seconded. Any

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- further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed?

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- All right, motion carries. Next is utility bills. And looks like our total utility bills for this pay

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- period is $20,425.39. Any questions? All right. I move that we approve the utility bills. Second.

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- It's been moved and seconded to approve utility bills. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye.

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- Opposed? Alright, utility bills are approved. Next are wire transfers, fees and payroll in the amount

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- of $570,367.13. I move that we approve the wire transfers. Second. Alright, moved and seconded for approval.

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- Any other discussion?

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- All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. The wire transfers are approved. Next is customer refunds

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- in the amount of $984.43. I move that we approve the customer refunds. Second. Okay it's been moved

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- and seconded to approve customer refunds. Any other discussion?

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- favor say aye opposed all right refunds are approved next on our agenda is the approval of consent agenda

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- items and we'll ask our director to give us that rundown I'm presenting tonight's consent agenda totaling

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- forty three thousand four hundred eighty seven dollars and twenty five cents

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- First contract is with SET Environmental Inc. for $8,393.62 for the transportation and disposal of two

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- 275-gallon totes of hydrofluorosilic acid at Monroe Water Treatment Plant. Next is with Crown Equipment

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- Corporation DBA Crown Lift Trucks for $4,429.63 to modify the crown fork truck tilt at the Dillman Wastewater

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- Treatment Plant.

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- Next is with First Appraisal Group Inc. for $2,500 for Copper Beach Lift Station Appraisal. Next is

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- with GRIP Incorporated for $14,923 for TOC Monitoring System at Monroe Water Treatment Plant. Next is

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- with GRIP Incorporated for $13,241 for Water Quality Monitoring Analyzers for Basins 1 and 2 at the

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- Monroe Water Treatment Plant.

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- Is there any member who wishes to consider one or more of these items individually? Hearing none, if

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- there is no opposition, these items will be approved as recommended by staff. Hearing no opposition,

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- the consent agenda is approved. The consent agenda is approved. Next item on the agenda is the

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- Requesting approval for an on-call service agreement with Marshall Security LLC, James Hall. Hi,

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- James Hall, Assistant Director of TND.

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- This on call agreement is with Marshall security, but they do more traffic control. They have traffic

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- control devices and things of that nature. And so we're just looking to have an on call vendor that

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- we can go to without having to do a contract every time to kind of rent some of that stuff. We keep

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- some of it in house, some of it disappears. And so we have to get new stuff. And sometimes we need items

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- that we may not really want to purchase and need someone to come out and set up. So that's what this

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- is about. So James, this is

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- Temporary equipment as opposed to personnel correct and they set it set it up to they set up the the

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- systems as well. OK. All right. Any questions for James on this agreement with martial security?

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- All right, I know that we approve the contract with martial security. It's been moved in second due to

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- approve the on-call service agreement, Marshall Security. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye.

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- Aye. Opposed? All right, motion carries. Thank you, James. Next, and you're staying right where you

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- are, for the approval of an on-call service agreement with Grace Ann Flanagan doing business as Dirt

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- Hounds Escavation LLC.

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- So again, just another on-call contract to have in our kind of people to call to help us with hydro

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- excavation or other digging operations that we may need in case a piece of equipment goes down or we

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- just need extra stuff. We have at least two vendors and we like to have three for on-call services to

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- be able to spread that out and call as we need to. Any questions for James on this one?

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- Any? I move that we approve the contract with Gracie and Finnegan. Second. Been moved and seconded.

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- All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right motion carries. Next is the request for approval of a

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- service agreement with First Appraisal Group and Chris is here to discuss that one.

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- Good evening. Chris Wheeler with City Legal and this item before the board is for a service agreement

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- with First Appraisal Group Incorporated who will do appraisals of the real estate located at and around

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- Lake Griffey and at and around Lake Lemon. It's a first attempt at trying to get a professional appraisal

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- done to determine what

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- the value of our real estate is out at those lakes. Just to understand what we own primarily and then

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- it very likely will inform the utility department and this board on what steps we may take in the future

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- with regards to our ownership of those lakes. Primarily because we do not use them anymore as a water

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- source and so it's hard to continue to justify ownership

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- when it really isn't providing any benefit to our customers. We continue to incur expenses in managing

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- those properties, and those expenses are becoming challenging for us to justify, I think. It's quite

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- possible that we may ultimately decide that we want to keep those water sources just in case as an emergency

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- backup, but at the moment, they're not even a viable emergency backup.

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- Step one, we thought, would be to determine what we think the value of the properties are, at least

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- to have an appraisal done so we can get a ballpark figure and then come back to the board and discuss

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- more detailed what it is we think we might like to do with the properties. So that's the main reason

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- behind this contract. It is for both lakes. And we would ask the board to approve this agreement so

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- that we can move forward. Thank you, Chris. If I remember correctly,

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- We, of course, own the bodies of water. But do we own parcels that surround those bodies as well? Does

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- this appraisal include those parcels as well? It includes the dry land and the lake bed. OK. Yeah. So

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- we're trying to be very all-encompassing with the properties that we do own. We appreciate it, since

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- we've been talking about doing this. So we're getting there. Questions?

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- More questions for Chris? Yeah. When you present the findings on this, assuming we approve it, can you

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- also bring the information on what are costs ongoing related to maintaining those properties? Yes, I'm

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- not sure. That might be a Matt Havy task. Yeah, that's anyone really. I guess that's not a question

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- for you, but that would be helpful. Staff has heard your request.

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- We'll try to make that be part of the overall presentation. Certainly, we're going to want to know those

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- things, right, as we're trying to decide what's best for the utility moving forward. A lot of pieces

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- to this one, including the interest that Parks and Rec has. Including the interest that Parks and Rec

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- has, yes. All right, other questions, discussion?

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- the contract with first appraisal group. Second. Moved and seconded. Any other discussion? All right

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- all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. All right item nine on our

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- agenda is to request request approval of the amendment to the agreement with electric plus incorporated and

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- Shane Ayres here. Hello, Shane Ayres, Monroe Water Treatment Plant Superintendent. So this item is for

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- the amendment to the contract for electric plus. Basically, we found out that the original generator

00:23:43.530 --> 00:23:51.738
- we rented was a little too small. So we're going to have to go with a bigger unit and it's going to

00:23:51.738 --> 00:23:53.790
- add another 5,000 to the

00:23:55.234 --> 00:24:06.091
- So shame to clarify, this was the exercise you were planning to do a few weeks ago. But when you got

00:24:06.091 --> 00:24:17.057
- ready to do it, you found out you needed bigger stuff to make this work. Yes, sir. OK. And so we have

00:24:17.057 --> 00:24:23.614
- a new total to get to that bigger piece of wood. Right. Yep.

00:24:25.538 --> 00:24:37.960
- OK. Questions for Shane? All right. So next week. But we still don't have all the pieces in order. There's

00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:49.570
- a lot of Duke and Potomac and Nargis. We've all got to get together to get a date. And that depends

00:24:49.570 --> 00:24:53.982
- also on if there's a bunch of storms.

00:24:55.106 --> 00:25:02.474
- If there's storms, then their schedule gets pushed back, and then we kind of fall to the wayside. But

00:25:02.474 --> 00:25:09.986
- a lot of moving parts. Yep. Thanks. Thank you. That's a good thing to do. Keep at it. Right. Appreciate

00:25:09.986 --> 00:25:17.209
- it. All right. Anything else? All right. I move we approve the contract with Electric Plus. Second.

00:25:17.209 --> 00:25:23.710
- It's been moved and seconded. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed?

00:25:24.802 --> 00:25:33.737
- All right, motion carries. And item 10 is approval of the memorandum of understanding between CBU and

00:25:33.737 --> 00:25:42.848
- City Engineering. Assistant Director Peden will join us. Good evening, Phil Peden, Engineering. So this

00:25:42.848 --> 00:25:48.542
- is MOU with City Engineering for the South Roger Street project.

00:25:49.058 --> 00:25:55.992
- They're moving forward with but I think due to some of their funding limitations that they couldn't

00:25:55.992 --> 00:26:02.926
- do all the storm waters kind of an optional possibility for this location. It's at Dodds and Rogers

00:26:02.926 --> 00:26:08.126
- where there's been some ongoing storm issues with that Northeast property.

00:26:08.290 --> 00:26:17.414
- corner there and so we had the opportunity to add it to their project under their design and construction

00:26:17.414 --> 00:26:26.194
- and it made sense so that's what the MOU is to cover the cost of that additional storm sewer. Two new

00:26:26.194 --> 00:26:34.888
- inlets and 130 linear feet of storm sewer pipe and the paving to go with it? Yeah so you got all the

00:26:34.888 --> 00:26:37.470
- incidentals with that to curb

00:26:37.666 --> 00:26:49.657
- That all comes with it, yeah. Okay. Questions for Phil on this one? Okay. We approve the MOU between

00:26:49.657 --> 00:27:02.003
- CBU and City Engineering. Thank you. It's been moved and seconded. Do we approve this MOU? All in favor

00:27:02.003 --> 00:27:04.734
- say aye. Aye. Opposed?

00:27:05.570 --> 00:27:19.385
- Okay motion carries thank you. All right hey the annual 2026 water quality report is next on our agenda.

00:27:19.385 --> 00:27:32.542
- Justin is here to go through it with us. Okay cool so last year as you may remember we went through

00:27:32.542 --> 00:27:34.910
- a resolution that

00:27:35.074 --> 00:27:41.921
- I would get to volunteer to come here and present the water quality report yearly. So one thing I just

00:27:41.921 --> 00:27:48.702
- want to point out before we start this, this is the 2026 water quality report, but all this data that

00:27:48.702 --> 00:27:55.550
- is in this report is from 2025. So this is encompassing from last year. And I will say moving forward,

00:27:55.550 --> 00:28:02.530
- 2027, they are changing this a little bit. So this will be released twice a year instead of once a year.

00:28:02.530 --> 00:28:04.990
- So it will just kind of shorten that

00:28:05.186 --> 00:28:10.814
- gap between when we collect the data and then when it's presented to our customers. So every utility

00:28:10.814 --> 00:28:16.665
- across the country is required to do this, and this is just as a transparency thing. So everybody that's

00:28:16.665 --> 00:28:22.404
- drinking water from a public utility knows what's in the water, and then they can make their decisions

00:28:22.404 --> 00:28:27.976
- based on any health issues they have or what they deem responsible for their family. Noted on here,

00:28:27.976 --> 00:28:29.982
- I do want to jump back just because

00:28:30.146 --> 00:28:35.881
- I have these in my office and it's always kind of cool to look at. Just started in 1998 is when they

00:28:35.881 --> 00:28:41.560
- passed the CCR regulations or the Consumer Confidence Report regulations. So the first one came out

00:28:41.560 --> 00:28:47.352
- in 1999. So I have a copy of these in my office, which is always kind of fun to look back through. So

00:28:47.352 --> 00:28:53.315
- that's our very first one there in 1999. You may be wondering if we paid an actor to be in that picture.

00:28:53.315 --> 00:28:58.142
- That is not. That is our chemist, Craig Abbott, who is still with us as our chemist.

00:28:58.242 --> 00:29:03.989
- And I just want to give Craig a shout out because he has helped with these reports since they started

00:29:03.989 --> 00:29:09.679
- in 1999. He does a great job with collecting data throughout the year, doing the sampling as part of

00:29:09.679 --> 00:29:15.707
- the sampling schedule, and then providing that information for this report. And then also on here, another

00:29:15.707 --> 00:29:21.567
- cool one is 2004. You can see the picture there. That's actually when they're building the third basin,

00:29:21.567 --> 00:29:26.750
- the newest sedimentation basin at the plant. So that's when that construction was starting.

00:29:26.978 --> 00:29:33.692
- And then as part of the requirements, there needs to be an aspect of public notification. Now we put

00:29:33.692 --> 00:29:40.405
- out press releases and social media and reach through our media friends. In the middle there, I hope

00:29:40.405 --> 00:29:47.385
- you see the irony of that 2005 water quality report ad in the newspaper about our tap water with bottled

00:29:47.385 --> 00:29:50.110
- water in the picture. I thought that was

00:29:50.722 --> 00:29:57.879
- good one and then just some of the some of the other reports there from the last couple years since

00:29:57.879 --> 00:30:05.179
- this is a yearly document. So this report is composed where we're showing anything that's measured in

00:30:05.179 --> 00:30:12.766
- our water as a contaminant. If it shows up in testing it doesn't matter if it's above or below any of the

00:30:12.866 --> 00:30:18.436
- The limits are the MCLs that are set by the EPA. If it shows up in testing through one of the labs we

00:30:18.436 --> 00:30:23.951
- use, mostly Eurofins, they send our results directly to IDEM so we don't get them back between that.

00:30:23.951 --> 00:30:29.521
- So they're reported from the lab and they have to go into this report. This is just the first page of

00:30:29.521 --> 00:30:33.726
- the full list of all these contaminants, which is 96 contaminants currently.

00:30:33.826 --> 00:30:39.221
- It changes a little bit based on if you're a surface water source or a groundwater source. Us being

00:30:39.221 --> 00:30:44.670
- surface water, it's a little bit different. Then it just shows you also the schedule of what type of

00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:50.280
- contaminant it is. I always thought this was a good chart because it tells you what some health effects

00:30:50.280 --> 00:30:55.837
- are, where these contaminants are coming from, and then both the MCL, which is what we use as a cutoff

00:30:55.837 --> 00:30:58.750
- for violations, and then also the public health goal.

00:30:58.882 --> 00:31:04.903
- I've never understood why the public health goals are not all zero, but there is a treatment aspect

00:31:04.903 --> 00:31:10.924
- in that and a monetary aspect in that that they have to set something that's feasible for utilities

00:31:10.924 --> 00:31:17.065
- as well. So there is, that list goes on. I have it if you want to copy, just shoot me an email, I can

00:31:17.065 --> 00:31:23.086
- send it to you. It's a fun list to have, I think. So this is just going back to the resolution that

00:31:23.086 --> 00:31:24.350
- we passed last year.

00:31:24.450 --> 00:31:30.626
- why I'm here and what we're going to chat very briefly about. So just talk about all the contaminants

00:31:30.626 --> 00:31:36.802
- that are listed, anything that deviates from the EPA maximums, which I'm here to tell you that we are

00:31:36.802 --> 00:31:43.038
- within range of all the contaminants that were detected in our water. So there's very few changes from

00:31:43.038 --> 00:31:49.154
- last year, which is a good thing because consistency in water treatment is always a positive for us,

00:31:49.154 --> 00:31:53.150
- nothing new popping up to cause issues. And then just some of the

00:31:53.410 --> 00:31:58.481
- parameter set by Health and Human Services, which I think we all know is probably the floor that we're

00:31:58.481 --> 00:32:03.454
- talking about, which is why this started last year, but we will touch on that briefly. And then just

00:32:03.454 --> 00:32:08.426
- very quickly at the end, just some of the stuff that we monitor looking forward to potential changes

00:32:08.426 --> 00:32:13.694
- from the EPA as far as what might be regulated. I will point out last fall, if you go back and look at the

00:32:13.890 --> 00:32:19.295
- Indiana code. A lot of our water regulations have been repealed from the state of Indiana, and now we

00:32:19.295 --> 00:32:24.700
- are just deferring back to the EPA regulations from the federal government. So IDEM has removed a lot

00:32:24.700 --> 00:32:30.105
- of that from their IAC, so we just go right from the EPA now. So some of the language in our document

00:32:30.105 --> 00:32:35.934
- has changed, but that's just slight differences between what IDEM had in their language and what the EPA has.

00:32:40.898 --> 00:32:46.391
- So this is the front page of our report this year. And like I said, if you went back and compare this

00:32:46.391 --> 00:32:51.938
- to last year, a lot of it's very similar, especially on the right-hand side. A lot of that is just the

00:32:51.938 --> 00:32:57.808
- health effects language, what populations may be concerned with different contaminants, and some information

00:32:57.808 --> 00:33:03.193
- on who to contact or where to get more information online. One that I'm proud of, and Shane and his

00:33:03.193 --> 00:33:08.633
- group should also be proud of, in the top left are violations for this year. There's none. We didn't

00:33:08.633 --> 00:33:10.302
- have any violations last year.

00:33:10.434 --> 00:33:16.792
- As you may recall, the last two before that, we did have some smaller violations. One was not as small,

00:33:16.792 --> 00:33:23.089
- but none from last year, which I'm very proud about. And then below that, we also put our deficiencies

00:33:23.089 --> 00:33:29.324
- from our last sanitary survey. Those two are being addressed currently in the project that is ongoing

00:33:29.324 --> 00:33:35.560
- at Monroe Treatment Plant, and we're hoping completed, hopefully late fall, or late summer, but I put

00:33:35.560 --> 00:33:38.494
- on there in the fall for those to be completed.

00:33:39.106 --> 00:33:44.937
- And then right below that is our PFAS and UCMR testing that was also on there last year, but we had

00:33:44.937 --> 00:33:50.885
- all non-detects, so we had good results there, so that has not changed. Another one I wanted to point

00:33:50.885 --> 00:33:57.008
- out on the lead side on the very right, we also added on there anybody that's interested in having their

00:33:57.008 --> 00:34:02.898
- water tested for lead. We added that to the CCR this year because we are now offering that as a free

00:34:02.898 --> 00:34:04.414
- service to our customers.

00:34:04.610 --> 00:34:10.983
- I think we talked about that briefly when I was here for a service line project, but we are still doing

00:34:10.983 --> 00:34:17.172
- that. We've gone through about 100 residences so far, and we're basically a team of two doing it, so

00:34:17.172 --> 00:34:23.362
- we're making good progress. We just want to put that on there so people are aware of it and they can

00:34:23.362 --> 00:34:29.919
- get signed up if they would like. Yes, absolutely. For the PFAS testing, this says it was based on samples

00:34:29.919 --> 00:34:33.534
- collected between 2023 and 2024. Yeah. Is that just a lag?

00:34:34.082 --> 00:34:40.305
- It's when they do different size utilities throughout this testing schedule. So some of the smaller

00:34:40.305 --> 00:34:46.527
- utilities. So it's not going to be tested every year, maybe? Not every year for a finished drinking

00:34:46.527 --> 00:34:52.874
- water. But as a utility, we are testing our source water more often just to see if we see any changes

00:34:52.874 --> 00:34:59.159
- in our source water. We know that could be an issue down the road. Thank you. So then we can move on

00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:01.150
- to the actual contaminant list.

00:35:01.986 --> 00:35:08.710
- So this is the list that will be on the back of the water quality report. Looks very similar to the

00:35:08.710 --> 00:35:15.433
- last couple years. So I will point out the bottom there in that kind of purplish pinkish color that

00:35:15.433 --> 00:35:22.359
- always has how many contaminants we have in our water. This says 16. You will note if you compare that

00:35:22.359 --> 00:35:23.838
- last time it said 13.

00:35:24.002 --> 00:35:29.650
- Not all of these are tested yearly. That part in the middle of the radioactive contaminants, last time

00:35:29.650 --> 00:35:35.517
- we tested that was in 2021. We only have to do that every six years because we are a surface water source.

00:35:35.517 --> 00:35:41.000
- Groundwater sources do that more often. So all that data stays the same from 2021. And then, if you

00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:46.593
- go one more, Rachel, I just wanted to highlight really quickly. These are what has changed since last

00:35:46.593 --> 00:35:52.076
- year's report. So that one on the very top there are total coliform bacteria. That's one of the new

00:35:52.076 --> 00:35:53.118
- ones that's added.

00:35:53.218 --> 00:35:58.918
- Last year, we collected over 1,000 samples. We had one come back positive for total coliform. And a

00:35:58.918 --> 00:36:04.902
- lot of times when that happens, it can be just if when you're sampling, you get your hands on the inside

00:36:04.902 --> 00:36:10.944
- of the bottle or on the lip of it. As much as you wash your hands, you're probably going to have a little

00:36:10.944 --> 00:36:16.700
- bacteria on them. Funny story, one of our sampling stations used to have a frog living in it and was

00:36:16.700 --> 00:36:22.457
- causing us a lot of positive samples until we kind of realized that there was some organic matter in

00:36:22.457 --> 00:36:23.198
- the station.

00:36:23.298 --> 00:36:29.392
- You know, over a thousand samples collected, only one positive. No violation there, but that's why it's

00:36:29.392 --> 00:36:35.251
- on there this year because we did have that one positive. Another reason that there's an additional

00:36:35.251 --> 00:36:41.227
- contaminant this year, IDEM made us separate out our radium-226 and 228. It used to be just combined.

00:36:41.227 --> 00:36:47.087
- It's still on there as a combined number, but they made us separate it out this year. Atrazine came

00:36:47.087 --> 00:36:51.774
- back this year. It was the first time since 2022. It's always a very low level.

00:36:51.874 --> 00:36:58.056
- For atrazine, you can see it's 0.1 PPB. The threshold for testing is 0.09. So we were just barely above

00:36:58.056 --> 00:37:04.238
- that. But as I said, it was there in 2022 and it was only in one of our four samples last year. So it's

00:37:04.238 --> 00:37:10.419
- always kind of right on that line. And that one's a runoff from herbicides using agricultural purposes.

00:37:10.419 --> 00:37:16.363
- The other changes at the bottom are lead and copper. We did do our annual sampling, or actually our

00:37:16.363 --> 00:37:18.206
- tri-annual sampling last year.

00:37:18.306 --> 00:37:23.329
- So our 90th percentile for lead and copper both changed a little bit. Our lead went from 3.3 to 5.1.

00:37:23.329 --> 00:37:28.302
- So that went up a little bit. Copper dropped a little bit, but both are still well below the action

00:37:28.302 --> 00:37:33.623
- level. We did have one site in our lead sampling that was above the action level, so we do have to include

00:37:33.623 --> 00:37:38.745
- that on here. And that just leads us to believe that they probably have internal plumbing that's lead,

00:37:38.745 --> 00:37:43.818
- as well as a lead service line, which we will be addressing moving forward. And then the other one on

00:37:43.818 --> 00:37:44.862
- there, the fluoride.

00:37:44.994 --> 00:37:50.479
- And as I pointed out, this is 2025, so this is when we were not feeding the fluoride. So there is a

00:37:50.479 --> 00:37:56.129
- range part of this table that just is below this on the actual report, just because it doesn't all fit

00:37:56.129 --> 00:38:01.943
- on one page here. So the range will say the low side is zero because this is just all naturally occurring

00:38:01.943 --> 00:38:07.592
- fluoride from last year. But I did put a note on there that we are currently feeding fluoride and have

00:38:07.592 --> 00:38:13.187
- been steadily since January. So our running average right now is 0.65. So right between that 0.6, 0.7

00:38:13.187 --> 00:38:14.942
- goal that we have for fluoride.

00:38:16.002 --> 00:38:23.657
- And then, yes? So the ideal goal there says four parts per million for fluoride. But your goal, am I

00:38:23.657 --> 00:38:31.616
- reading that right? Yeah. Yeah. But you just said you were looking for a lower. Yeah, that's a misprint.

00:38:31.616 --> 00:38:39.272
- We're going to fix that. And that's why this is not our final report. So yeah, you're correct there.

00:38:39.272 --> 00:38:45.790
- That's not the ideal goal for fluoride. I'll have to go back and fix that. Thank you.

00:38:51.554 --> 00:38:58.696
- Yeah, the CDC has a writer I think point seven is kind of the upper side of where they and then the

00:38:58.696 --> 00:39:05.837
- MCL of four there There's a secondary MCL for fluoride at two parts per million as well But four is

00:39:05.837 --> 00:39:13.122
- the main one Last year, this is all from last year. Yes, it'll be a little higher now The next one we

00:39:13.122 --> 00:39:15.550
- put out will be higher. Yeah. Yep

00:39:19.682 --> 00:39:24.988
- And then some of the source water monitoring we do, as I mentioned, the PFAS, part of the UCMR, but

00:39:24.988 --> 00:39:30.612
- we also just monitor that. You may assume there are some changes probably occurring with PFAS in drinking

00:39:30.612 --> 00:39:36.290
- water, unfortunately. They're cutting back some of the regulations from what was proposed and also pushing

00:39:36.290 --> 00:39:41.596
- the deadline back, which pushing the deadline back will probably help some utilities. Perchlorates,

00:39:41.596 --> 00:39:43.294
- another one that's on the EPA's

00:39:43.394 --> 00:39:48.920
- radar. We were just trying to test that to get ahead of that. We are well below the lowest threshold

00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:54.609
- that they might implement for that. And then microplastics is another one that we're looking to testing

00:39:54.609 --> 00:40:00.244
- because it hasn't been about four or five years since we've done that. And then cyanotoxin, I just put

00:40:00.244 --> 00:40:05.988
- that on there because we do that yearly just because the algae blooms. And as you know, blue-green algae

00:40:05.988 --> 00:40:11.733
- can be an issue. And with that, if you have any questions or comments, I would be happy to hear. I think

00:40:11.733 --> 00:40:13.374
- the water looks really tasty.

00:40:13.698 --> 00:40:19.578
- Is there anything here that keeps you up at night or concerns you? From the contaminant standpoint,

00:40:19.578 --> 00:40:25.576
- no. Lead and copper, that rule always keeps me up a little bit, just the more I think about it. Well,

00:40:25.576 --> 00:40:31.573
- with the lead going up slightly, is that basically a byproduct of what service connections you decide

00:40:31.573 --> 00:40:37.512
- to sample each year? And then that's just where your 90th percentile is, right? Yeah, so I had to go

00:40:37.512 --> 00:40:42.334
- back through this past year and update all of our sampling locations. Previously,

00:40:42.466 --> 00:40:48.333
- to the same locations that had been being used over and over, which was part of the rule. But a lot

00:40:48.333 --> 00:40:54.200
- of those had seen service upgrades or internal plumbing upgrades, so they were just naturally gonna

00:40:54.200 --> 00:41:00.125
- have lower concentrations. So we had to go back through and meet all these tier one sites again. How

00:41:00.125 --> 00:41:06.227
- many do we have to sample service connections for lead of a system this size? I might've asked you that

00:41:06.227 --> 00:41:12.446
- before. We run a reduced monitoring, so we had to do 30 locations once every three years as part of this.

00:41:12.610 --> 00:41:18.960
- If you're non-reduced, 60 every year, which next year we're actually, when the new parts of that lead

00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:25.434
- and copper go into effect, we have to go back to the normal sampling. So we're going to have to go back

00:41:25.434 --> 00:41:31.846
- up to 60 and then do it every six months for two years. Nice to see the disinfection byproducts pretty

00:41:31.846 --> 00:41:34.398
- consistent from last year as well. Yeah.

00:41:34.658 --> 00:41:39.818
- Yeah that's one you know if you go on IDEM has a drinking water viewer everybody should know this you

00:41:39.818 --> 00:41:44.928
- can go on and actually track all of our sampling that we do throughout the year for any utility. Our

00:41:44.928 --> 00:41:50.088
- results always differ from theirs a little bit just because we sample more often than they require so

00:41:50.088 --> 00:41:55.249
- they use four samples a year and we try to do every month. Last year we missed one or two months just

00:41:55.249 --> 00:41:58.942
- because of budgetary reasons but we're back to sampling every month now.

00:42:00.194 --> 00:42:06.307
- Just a couple of notes and comments. We have the violations and deficiencies, which awesome.

00:42:06.307 --> 00:42:13.078
- We have none. Deficiencies of what is that from like IDEM inspection, a certain Indiana administrative

00:42:13.078 --> 00:42:17.022
- code that they look at. So that came up in that inspection.

00:42:17.314 --> 00:42:22.857
- the backwash tank at Monroe. There's an overflow port that comes out. Right now, when it comes out of

00:42:22.857 --> 00:42:28.455
- the tank, it doesn't come all the way to the ground. It has to be within 12 to 18 inches of the ground

00:42:28.455 --> 00:42:33.998
- to be screened at the bottom. So it just needs to be extended down to the ground. And then we have to

00:42:33.998 --> 00:42:39.704
- put a secondary backwash pump in just in case something happens to the primary backwash pump. Oh, great.

00:42:39.704 --> 00:42:43.454
- And I believe we have that pump on site or soon to be on site. Yeah.

00:42:43.714 --> 00:42:48.806
- I don't know if it'd be helpful just for the public reading that to to maybe explain, you know, what

00:42:48.806 --> 00:42:53.848
- those are violations or deficiencies of. I mean, I think it's kind of implied in the intro there as

00:42:53.848 --> 00:42:56.318
- well. But and then I love the fact that at least

00:42:56.898 --> 00:43:02.604
- Historically, we've not had PFAS detected. I think it's great that we highlight that. Is that a requirement

00:43:02.604 --> 00:43:08.416
- that we would highlight that too if we tested for it under the? Yeah, so the UCMR rule, that's a requirement,

00:43:08.416 --> 00:43:14.017
- ought to be on this document, which included, I think, 32 different PFAS contaminants as well as lithium.

00:43:14.017 --> 00:43:19.406
- But I think that's something that we should definitely highlight, the public should know. And I don't

00:43:19.406 --> 00:43:24.742
- know if it'd be helpful to, sometimes I hate using it, but calling it forever chemicals or something

00:43:24.742 --> 00:43:26.750
- in the headlines so that maybe people

00:43:27.074 --> 00:43:35.288
- put that connection to that. Not that, you know, if you use per and floral alkalonic acid or whatever

00:43:35.288 --> 00:43:43.422
- it is, it might be quite long, but excellent job. Thank you so much for doing what you do. Any other

00:43:43.422 --> 00:43:51.879
- questions? Other questions? No comments? Justin, you mentioned that the state deleted some requirements,

00:43:51.879 --> 00:43:55.422
- so we now lean on the federal requirements.

00:43:56.098 --> 00:44:02.984
- which were more favorable for the consumer, the states that are no longer around? In Indiana, they were

00:44:02.984 --> 00:44:09.804
- basically the same anyways. There was just some language differences in them. But as far as the actual

00:44:09.804 --> 00:44:16.491
- contaminants go, they're identical. Some states do have more stringent guidelines or regulations for

00:44:16.491 --> 00:44:23.112
- drinking water. But the EPA rule is you can make them more stringent. You just can't make them less

00:44:23.112 --> 00:44:25.694
- stringent than the federal government.

00:44:25.826 --> 00:44:32.058
- So some states that have particular contaminants that are of issue, they might lower those a little

00:44:32.058 --> 00:44:38.290
- bit. Indiana just kind of, they've always kind of followed the federal government's lead for these,

00:44:38.290 --> 00:44:44.647
- but they just said no more confusion between the IAC and the EPA code, so they just got rid of it. So

00:44:44.647 --> 00:44:51.004
- there wasn't a decrease in standards there? No. Okay. No, just a change in language basically. Great.

00:44:51.004 --> 00:44:53.310
- Thank you. Yep. Any other questions?

00:44:55.778 --> 00:45:04.237
- Well, thank you. I appreciate this and appreciate your continued work on all this. Thanks for your time.

00:45:04.237 --> 00:45:12.213
- It's obviously a top priority for us to make sure that we're in excess of the requirements, right?

00:45:12.213 --> 00:45:20.511
- I agree. And I will point out, nationwide, the average contaminants is around 25 in utilities drinking

00:45:20.511 --> 00:45:25.022
- water. So we're well below that. 25 contaminants? Yeah.

00:45:25.442 --> 00:45:35.642
- I think Cap mentioned to me that a lot of other municipalities have PFAS problems and we don't. Just

00:45:35.642 --> 00:45:45.841
- don't go talking about our water being too good to like Indy because they're gonna want to come down

00:45:45.841 --> 00:45:54.526
- and take it. We have very good source water. Just tell them the algae is a big issue.

00:45:55.010 --> 00:46:10.299
- Indy has suggested they could be a customer before. Okay. Thank you. All right. Is there any old business

00:46:10.299 --> 00:46:21.982
- from the board? Old business from staff? Okay. New business from the board? Yes.

00:46:23.554 --> 00:46:35.249
- Maybe at the next meeting or at the first meeting where you have information that you communicate to

00:46:35.249 --> 00:46:46.829
- us anything new about the property on Cottage Grove. Thank you. Anything else from staff? Did I ask

00:46:46.829 --> 00:46:52.734
- that? New business from staff? We good? All right.

00:46:52.866 --> 00:47:02.290
- We had any subcommittee reports since last meeting? Staff reports? Yeah. Just in this year, we just

00:47:02.290 --> 00:47:12.091
- presented that annual water quality report, received its DSL license. And Alan Christie and Josh Wathen

00:47:12.091 --> 00:47:22.174
- and TND earned their water collection licenses. And that is our staff report. Great. Thank you. Good deal.

00:47:22.530 --> 00:47:29.611
- Any other petitions or communications from the public? Anyone else in attendance? Okay, I think that

00:47:29.611 --> 00:47:32.766
- wraps up our meeting. We'll stand adjourned.
