WEBVTT 00:00:04.738 --> 00:00:11.525 - Hello, and welcome to Cats Week. I'm Annalise Poorman. At their meeting on October 7th, the Bloomington 00:00:11.525 --> 00:00:18.311 - City Council heard the first reading of the city's proposed 2027 water and wastewater utilities budget. 00:00:18.311 --> 00:00:24.968 - Council member Isabel Piedmont-Smith asked how nearly $5 million from the utilities depreciation fund 00:00:24.968 --> 00:00:31.624 - would be used. Where does that money come from? Because things depreciate, they become less valuable. 00:00:31.624 --> 00:00:34.430 - So where does this $4.9 million come from? 00:00:36.066 --> 00:00:43.747 - come from. Controller Jeff McKim offered some additional context as to how depreciation funds are generally 00:00:43.747 --> 00:00:51.214 - used by utilities. I can tell you that in general a depreciation fund for a utility would be essentially 00:00:51.214 --> 00:00:58.753 - a fund for that would house resources that would be used to repair or maintain depreciation, depreciating 00:00:58.753 --> 00:01:03.518 - assets. So that's why there's actually a positive number in there. 00:01:04.034 --> 00:01:10.723 - Piedmont Smith requested that Director Catherine Zager research the issue and return with a more detailed 00:01:10.723 --> 00:01:15.582 - answer. The utility budget will return for a second reading on October 14th. 00:01:16.354 --> 00:01:23.365 - Later, the Council heard an amendment proposing to reduce the City's general fund sanitation subsidy 00:01:23.365 --> 00:01:30.585 - from $1.6 million to $1 million. The proposal anticipates additional revenue from a possible sanitation 00:01:30.585 --> 00:01:37.666 - rate increase, but leaves open the possibility of resetting the fund to $1.6 million if that increase 00:01:37.666 --> 00:01:38.846 - does not happen. 00:01:39.106 --> 00:01:48.067 - Amendment one is the one that reduces the sanitation subsidy from 1.6 million down to 1 million pending 00:01:48.067 --> 00:01:56.770 - The fiscal committee got a presentation from sanitation Regarding increased rates and so there is an 00:01:56.770 --> 00:02:05.214 - assumption that that increased rates would would Mean that less subsidy is required this does not 00:02:05.378 --> 00:02:11.367 - Guarantee in any way for the public that your rates would increase because we've always come back next 00:02:11.367 --> 00:02:17.181 - year for an additional appropriation for that six hundred thousand dollars if the increase Fails at 00:02:17.181 --> 00:02:23.170 - the council level, but I think that it's a good preemptive step Because we don't know right now what's 00:02:23.170 --> 00:02:29.159 - gonna happen with that increase amendment one passed and the council moved on to amendment three which 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:34.334 - would remove funding for planning studies for the planning and Transportation Department 00:02:34.626 --> 00:02:41.101 - Interim Director Lynn Coyne argued that the studies are an early step in a much longer process that 00:02:41.101 --> 00:02:47.900 - can eventually lead to project designs and outside funding. We do not know until the study is done where 00:02:47.900 --> 00:02:54.763 - the specifics will lead. And that then leads to applications for funding, it leads to engineering design, 00:02:54.763 --> 00:03:01.950 - and so forth, our follow-on events to this. So this is the precursor event. Without this, that doesn't happen. 00:03:02.402 --> 00:03:08.965 - Mayor Carrie Thompson followed, explaining how eliminating the studies could affect the city's ability 00:03:08.965 --> 00:03:15.654 - to carry out existing transportation plans and compete for future grants. Just to connect the dots here, 00:03:15.654 --> 00:03:22.026 - I think Council Member Stossberg asked what happens if we don't go forward with these plans. If you 00:03:22.026 --> 00:03:28.525 - don't go forward with the plans, we can't complete the work that is in things like our transportation 00:03:28.525 --> 00:03:31.774 - plan. We fall behind on that. If we don't complete 00:03:32.066 --> 00:03:41.967 - these plans, we also can't apply for funding. So these various Safe Streets for All grants, the corridor 00:03:41.967 --> 00:03:51.774 - improvement plans, and the grants that we get from federal transportation, they all are contingent upon 00:03:51.774 --> 00:03:58.846 - having these plans done well in advance and having the community commit to 00:03:59.618 --> 00:04:05.733 - the planning process and having it signed off on. So it is not the case that we can wait for the grant 00:04:05.733 --> 00:04:11.967 - to come out and then do the plan. We have to have a plan in place so that we can apply for these grants. 00:04:11.967 --> 00:04:17.904 - So we lose out on funding if we say no to plans is the long and short of this. The council voted to 00:04:17.904 --> 00:04:22.238 - reject the amendment, leaving the planning money in the proposed budget. 00:04:22.658 --> 00:04:28.790 - The council also put a hold on a proposed appropriation from Bloomington's housing development fund 00:04:28.790 --> 00:04:34.983 - with several members calling for a more clear strategy and greater public oversight of large awards. 00:04:34.983 --> 00:04:41.176 - Mayor Carrie Thompson said she was open to discussing how the fund could work better, but questioned 00:04:41.176 --> 00:04:47.554 - whether requiring projects to return through additional council hearings was the best way to accomplish 00:04:47.554 --> 00:04:52.030 - that. Our administration's been really open to working with council on a 00:04:52.258 --> 00:05:01.682 - Various things the challenge with having to come back for appropriations for any of this is That if 00:05:01.682 --> 00:05:11.200 - a need comes up or there's a you know, there's a project what happens if this hasn't been decided is 00:05:11.200 --> 00:05:18.174 - that that project becomes the the measuring stick for the entire fund and 00:05:18.530 --> 00:05:25.225 - instead of actually talking about the process. And what we have seen time and again through the planning 00:05:25.225 --> 00:05:31.666 - process, through funding processes that work in a case-by-case basis like this is that we end up not 00:05:31.666 --> 00:05:38.170 - getting the housing built, or we end up increasing the cost of the housing. That's not what any of us 00:05:38.170 --> 00:05:44.610 - want. We all want to do better with the money that we have, but adding layers and layers of red tape 00:05:44.610 --> 00:05:45.822 - to getting it done 00:05:46.018 --> 00:05:54.180 - doesn't seem like the most practical solution. So I'm just wondering if there's a counter proposal for 00:05:54.180 --> 00:06:02.421 - working together in a time-bound way to come up with a strategy, leave the money there so we don't have 00:06:02.421 --> 00:06:10.901 - to go to three council hearings with all of the staff that already are going to a lot of plant commission, 00:06:10.901 --> 00:06:14.942 - council, and RDC meetings. So that we can get them 00:06:15.106 --> 00:06:21.662 - doing work rather than going to meetings. Council Member Stosberg said that her concern was less about 00:06:21.662 --> 00:06:28.154 - choosing which projects receive funding and more about ensuring that large expenditures are discussed 00:06:28.154 --> 00:06:34.583 - publicly before the money is appropriated. I'm interested in public transparency and accountability. 00:06:34.583 --> 00:06:40.948 - And the Mayor's memo actually made this even more important to me because it lists several projects 00:06:40.948 --> 00:06:44.958 - that requested more than a million dollars in city assistance. 00:06:45.410 --> 00:06:53.090 - We have an entire another ordinance from several years ago that says City Council needs to approve expenses 00:06:53.090 --> 00:07:00.485 - over a hundred thousand dollars in capital investment and yet we don't want to have Some kind of public 00:07:00.485 --> 00:07:07.739 - hearing when the city asks when the city has asked for more than a million dollars in assistance That 00:07:07.739 --> 00:07:15.134 - is absurd and to diminish the value of something like that coming before this body is a diminishment of 00:07:15.298 --> 00:07:23.030 - of this body's importance as the fiscal officer. We are the fiscal body of this city. And you considered 00:07:23.030 --> 00:07:30.541 - us with projects that might be over a million dollars in city assistance to just be layers and layers 00:07:30.541 --> 00:07:38.199 - of red tape. Earlier in this memo, it's a burden to have to come before city council. And it's not that 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:44.606 - you're just disrespecting the nine of us up here as individuals, as elected officials, 00:07:45.186 --> 00:07:52.275 - as a body, but it also feels like blatant disrespect to the residents of this city who have taxpayers, 00:07:52.275 --> 00:07:59.295 - and it's blatant disrespect when instead of listening to council member comment or to public comment, 00:07:59.295 --> 00:08:06.178 - instead you walk out of the room. And for those of you not in this room, Mayor Thompson just walked 00:08:06.178 --> 00:08:12.510 - out of the room instead of listening. I consider that blatant disrespect to the fiscal body 00:08:12.770 --> 00:08:18.720 - Consider it blatantly disrespectful to the residents of this city who pay taxes, you know to get money 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:24.555 - into this fund There has to be an approval of the affordability Incentives for planning projects for 00:08:24.555 --> 00:08:30.447 - large planning projects for them to take advantage of affordability incentives Plan Commission has to 00:08:30.447 --> 00:08:31.198 - approve that 00:08:31.874 --> 00:08:38.362 - Has to approve these payments in lieu that go into this fund. That is a public process. And yet no public 00:08:38.362 --> 00:08:44.606 - process should be needed for requests more than a million dollars in city assistance that come out of 00:08:44.606 --> 00:08:50.788 - this. It absolutely should be. The amendment passed six to one. Another unanimously passed amendment 00:08:50.788 --> 00:08:57.032 - eliminated funding for a currently vacant transportation demand manager position in the department of 00:08:57.032 --> 00:08:59.358 - economic and sustainable development. 00:08:59.714 --> 00:09:07.552 - During discussion of whether those resources could be better used elsewhere, Piedmont Smith identified 00:09:07.552 --> 00:09:15.313 - another area of the city's climate work that she would prioritize. I personally would like to see the 00:09:15.313 --> 00:09:23.151 - money used to better implement our climate action plan, particularly in the realm of food security and 00:09:23.151 --> 00:09:29.086 - our local food system. However, this is not a venue where I can dictate that. 00:09:29.666 --> 00:09:36.135 - that that was my idea and that's what I've talked with Director Cooper Smith about. The largest proposed 00:09:36.135 --> 00:09:42.728 - reduction would have directed the administration to find another two and a half million dollars in savings 00:09:42.728 --> 00:09:49.136 - rather than having the council identify individual positions and expenses. Council President Isak Asari 00:09:49.136 --> 00:09:55.358 - framed the proposal around concerns about using city reserves to cover recurring operating expenses. 00:09:55.358 --> 00:09:57.022 - I think it's very clear in 00:09:57.122 --> 00:10:04.061 - worth repeating again and again that our that both SEA one and our local economic conditions do not 00:10:04.061 --> 00:10:11.207 - support the current trajectory of the city's operating budget. Full stop. I think the proposed general 00:10:11.207 --> 00:10:18.562 - budget spends approximately five point four million dollars for seven million dollars more than projected 00:10:18.562 --> 00:10:20.158 - revenue. We know this. 00:10:20.322 --> 00:10:29.042 - And we also know that we have considerable reserves, which I think that we've spent several years opining 00:10:29.042 --> 00:10:37.516 - on but Reserves do not make recurring operating deficits sustainable. And so if we use reserves to pay 00:10:37.516 --> 00:10:38.750 - recurring cost 00:10:38.882 --> 00:10:45.218 - Those costs return year after year and the revenue does not. And so eventually those reserves are going 00:10:45.218 --> 00:10:51.431 - to be smaller and the structural problem will remain. So deficit spending as I've said multiple times 00:10:51.431 --> 00:10:57.706 - I think is justifiable when we're making a deliberate investment with a clear return. That return does 00:10:57.706 --> 00:11:04.285 - not have to be financial. It may be things like safer streets stronger infrastructure more housing reducing 00:11:04.285 --> 00:11:08.062 - homelessness better public health lower future costs etc. But 00:11:08.578 --> 00:11:14.695 - I think and again I'm trying to bias myself away from using the language that I think has grown tired 00:11:14.695 --> 00:11:20.753 - because I've said it too much and easy then to say that I'm just being theoretical. But I think that 00:11:20.753 --> 00:11:26.930 - we should be able to say what results we expect from our spending. Controller McKim said that the size 00:11:26.930 --> 00:11:33.048 - of the proposed reduction and the limited time before the new budget year would make it difficult for 00:11:33.048 --> 00:11:37.246 - the administration to determine where those savings should come from. 00:11:37.442 --> 00:11:43.198 - I'm just running calculations. But I did take the $2.5 million. 00:11:43.330 --> 00:11:51.602 - And as the amendment indicated that it should be allocated roughly according to the proportion that 00:11:51.602 --> 00:12:00.288 - that department has in the general fund budget, I just calculated it exactly, so exactly proportionally, 00:12:00.288 --> 00:12:08.560 - just to see how that would come out. And what that would look like is a cut of 765,000 from police, 00:12:08.560 --> 00:12:12.862 - 718,000 from the fire department, 183,000 from ITS, 00:12:12.962 --> 00:12:22.327 - 137,000 from public works 120,000 from planning Did I did that? I mean, I don't need to read them all 00:12:22.327 --> 00:12:31.785 - 33,000 from the council budget 56,000 from facilities maintenance, etc. So those are really large cuts 00:12:31.785 --> 00:12:41.150 - and definitely not cuts that we would be capable of producing within a week and implementing within a 00:12:41.698 --> 00:12:47.824 - a couple of months as the mayor just indicated, but at least I think that gives you some idea of the 00:12:47.824 --> 00:12:53.890 - kind of magnitude of what those cuts would look like. The amendment failed two to five. The council 00:12:53.890 --> 00:13:00.381 - stopped short of adopting Bloomington's full 2027 city budget after making several changes to the proposal 00:13:00.381 --> 00:13:06.871 - during the meeting. Controller McKim asked the council to give his office time to incorporate the approved 00:13:06.871 --> 00:13:10.814 - amendments into the city's financial system before a final vote. 00:13:11.042 --> 00:13:17.230 - What I would ask is that you continue this meeting to the 14th and this will give us the opportunity 00:13:17.230 --> 00:13:23.357 - to take all of the amendments that you have passed to enter them into our financial system and then 00:13:23.357 --> 00:13:29.973 - enter them into Gateway and to produce a final form for which you'd be able to vote on at the next meeting. 00:13:29.973 --> 00:13:36.161 - Before moving the budget to the next meeting, council members reflected on the larger budget process 00:13:36.161 --> 00:13:39.102 - and their relationship with the administration. 00:13:39.554 --> 00:13:45.437 - Council member Matt Flaherty explained why his concerns extend beyond the individual amendments considered 00:13:45.437 --> 00:13:50.991 - that evening. I also voted no on the civil city budget last year and mean for that to be interpreted 00:13:50.991 --> 00:13:56.489 - as just broad dissatisfaction with Mayor Thompson's administration and how she's leading the city's 00:13:56.489 --> 00:14:01.988 - executive branch and my lack of buy-in and some of her priorities and in some cases how she directs 00:14:01.988 --> 00:14:07.596 - her staff to spend their time and the city's money. There are some specific issues that I think of as 00:14:07.596 --> 00:14:09.246 - like foundational problems in 00:14:09.346 --> 00:14:14.867 - the executive branch governance right now that I would like likened to something like a floor or a threshold 00:14:14.867 --> 00:14:20.085 - of good governance that I need to see met in order to give me the basic confidence to support a budget 00:14:20.085 --> 00:14:25.303 - request like this. At a certain point when we've raised these foundational issues and they've not been 00:14:25.303 --> 00:14:28.190 - addressed or the administration refuses to address them, 00:14:28.290 --> 00:14:35.409 - The budget is one of only a few accountability mechanisms. The meeting concluded with the council considering 00:14:35.409 --> 00:14:42.333 - 2027 salary ordinances for sworn fire and police personnel and city clerk employees. The next city council 00:14:42.333 --> 00:14:49.258 - meeting will be on October 14th. A special meeting of the Monroe County Election Board was held on October 00:14:49.258 --> 00:14:56.182 - 6th. The meeting was less than 10 minutes in length, but played an important role in the upcoming November 00:14:56.182 --> 00:14:56.894 - elections. 00:14:57.218 --> 00:15:05.515 - First on the agenda was the approval of a resolution allowing one election inspector to oversee more 00:15:05.515 --> 00:15:14.058 - than one precinct on election day. During the discussion portion, Democratic board member Penny Giffins 00:15:14.058 --> 00:15:22.437 - asked if these locations could have multiple poll watchers. As I read through the state code, it says 00:15:22.437 --> 00:15:23.998 - that poll watchers 00:15:24.450 --> 00:15:31.969 - There can be one per precinct. So does that mean that at a place like St. John's, where there are multiple 00:15:31.969 --> 00:15:39.699 - precincts, that there can be multiple poll watchers? Yes. Okay. Thank you. The resolution passed unanimously. 00:15:39.699 --> 00:15:46.867 - Next, election supervisor, Kylie Farris said that both political parties submitted their appointments 00:15:46.867 --> 00:15:51.294 - for election day inspectors and judges, along with alternates. 00:15:51.554 --> 00:15:58.514 - In your packets, you'll the packets that I provided, you'll see the emails from both the Democratic 00:15:58.514 --> 00:16:05.473 - and Republican Party. We received those emails this morning from both the chairs. And then you guys 00:16:05.473 --> 00:16:12.711 - have a list attached of all inspectors and judges that have been appointed and then a list of alternate 00:16:12.711 --> 00:16:20.158 - inspectors and judges as well. The Election Day inspector and judge workers resolution passed unanimously. 00:16:20.962 --> 00:16:27.986 - Then the board considered student poll workers participating in the Hoosier Hall Pass program. Ferris 00:16:27.986 --> 00:16:35.010 - said that recruitment included a strong turnout from Bloomington High School South. In the past we've 00:16:35.010 --> 00:16:41.965 - approved this, we approved it in the primary as well, and I will say that so far we have recruited a 00:16:41.965 --> 00:16:47.198 - very large number of Hoosier Hall Pass workers. It is incredible to see the 00:16:47.298 --> 00:16:53.622 - turn of them we had I believe it was 84 from Bloomington High School South who have volunteered to work 00:16:53.622 --> 00:17:00.128 - in addition to students from Edgewood and then they are going to Bloomington High School North, Lighthouse 00:17:00.128 --> 00:17:06.878 - Christian Academy and Seven Oaks as well. Board members approved the Hoosier Hall pass resolution unanimously. 00:17:07.426 --> 00:17:14.045 - Giffins then asked how many polling place sheriffs would be needed for the general election. Ferris 00:17:14.045 --> 00:17:20.862 - said that staffing depends on the number of registered voters at each location. One of the things that 00:17:20.862 --> 00:17:28.010 - indicates is that the Hoosier Hall passed workers and that wasn't the name of the resolution, but hopefully 00:17:28.010 --> 00:17:34.629 - that's fine. They can work as either a clerk or sheriff. How many sheriffs do you anticipate having 00:17:34.629 --> 00:17:36.350 - for the general election? 00:17:36.866 --> 00:17:44.507 - So I don't have a total number right now, but our large locations will have two sheriffs, and the smaller 00:17:44.507 --> 00:17:51.716 - locations will have one. And then locations like Bergun won't have a sheriff. They'll just have the 00:17:51.716 --> 00:17:59.213 - inspectors, judges, and clerks. I can get a total number and email that to you guys after this meeting. 00:17:59.213 --> 00:18:06.206 - I want to say any locations that had, I want to say it was 4,500 registered voters received two. 00:18:06.498 --> 00:18:13.512 - sheriffs and then anything under a certain amount, I think it was under 1,000, between that 40 to 4,300 00:18:13.512 --> 00:18:20.526 - to 1,000 received one, and then anything below that has zero. County Attorney Jeff Cockerill noted that 00:18:20.526 --> 00:18:27.472 - the board might need to vote again on the resolution with additional updates. This resolution, the one 00:18:27.472 --> 00:18:29.630 - you just approved, assumes that 00:18:29.954 --> 00:18:35.991 - all the recruiting has been done. It doesn't sound like that's the case, so this one will probably have 00:18:35.991 --> 00:18:41.795 - to come back to you at a meeting in the future to get updated with all the new information. I would 00:18:41.795 --> 00:18:47.948 - say the next meeting that we have scheduled, we would be able to go ahead and approve that. Next Tuesday, 00:18:47.948 --> 00:18:53.753 - correct? Yes. That resolution passed unanimously. Finally, Cockerill asked the board to approve the 00:18:53.753 --> 00:18:57.758 - use of primary election training materials for the general election. 00:18:58.050 --> 00:19:04.862 - He said that the earlier resolution did not cover November. There was one other resolution that was 00:19:04.862 --> 00:19:12.082 - drafted for this meeting that didn't make the agenda. Apparently, when you approve the training materials 00:19:12.082 --> 00:19:19.575 - for the primary election, it did not follow through through the general election. And so there's a resolution 00:19:19.575 --> 00:19:26.046 - that just kind of affirms that the training material used at the general election will be used 00:19:26.178 --> 00:19:32.282 - or at the primary election will be used at the general election. And so we'd like to get that so that 00:19:32.282 --> 00:19:38.267 - we can meet that state requirement. Clerk Nicole Brown said that the training has not changed since 00:19:38.267 --> 00:19:44.551 - the primary and called the need for another approval and oversight. Mr. Chair, I believe that that would 00:19:44.551 --> 00:19:50.535 - have been an oversight. Most resolutions of that nature expire at the end of the year. The training 00:19:50.535 --> 00:19:55.742 - has not changed from what we did at the primary. And so I am going to make a motion to 00:19:55.906 --> 00:20:02.630 - adopt the resolution for training for the general election. Republican board member Danny Shields asked 00:20:02.630 --> 00:20:09.160 - whether any problems during the primary needed to be addressed. Ferris said that the staff corrected 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:16.078 - folder labels and changed the training layout, but found no issues with the training materials themselves. 00:20:16.078 --> 00:20:22.543 - I was under the impression when we did that for May that it was for the entire election season, for 00:20:22.543 --> 00:20:24.030 - lack of a better term. 00:20:25.186 --> 00:20:33.004 - Did we have any issues in the primary election that we need to address? No, we didn't have any issues 00:20:33.004 --> 00:20:40.669 - with the training materials. One thing that we did notice was in a binder was some of the colors of 00:20:40.669 --> 00:20:48.794 - a folder were incorrect, but those are separate from the training materials, so those have been addressed 00:20:48.794 --> 00:20:49.790 - and changed. 00:20:50.018 --> 00:20:56.777 - The only other thing that really has changed is going to be the layout of training, but that's not part 00:20:56.777 --> 00:21:03.535 - of the materials. It's just the way that we're going to be doing things now. I will note that the dates 00:21:03.535 --> 00:21:10.034 - were changed within the training materials themselves. So that's a slight update. It has nothing to 00:21:10.034 --> 00:21:15.038 - do with what's being trained and the training resolution passed unanimously. 00:21:15.746 --> 00:21:22.348 - The next meeting of the Monroe County Election Board is scheduled for October 14th. On October 5th, 00:21:22.348 --> 00:21:29.083 - Mayor Kerry Thompson held a traveling town hall at Jackson Creek Middle School. Thompson started with 00:21:29.083 --> 00:21:36.147 - the town hall by encouraging attendees to vote in the upcoming elections and by celebrating 9,500 potholes 00:21:36.147 --> 00:21:42.881 - filled on Bloomington Roads. Then the meeting transitioned to a Q&A session. One attendee asked about 00:21:42.881 --> 00:21:44.862 - a flock camera on his street. 00:21:45.186 --> 00:21:51.356 - My understanding is the county decided to remove the cameras despite there being a fine associated with 00:21:51.356 --> 00:21:57.289 - that. I think it was a pretty moderate fine. And then you said that the contracts were not going to 00:21:57.289 --> 00:22:03.518 - be renewed or they were not renewed. I think one just was canceled a couple of weeks ago. But the camera 00:22:03.518 --> 00:22:09.451 - on my block is still up. And so I was just wondering if you were committed to removing them despite 00:22:09.451 --> 00:22:14.494 - a potential fine just so we can be done with that in light of the vote on Wednesday. 00:22:14.754 --> 00:22:21.227 - And also if you had a commitment to not picking up any new vendors that are out there and are probably 00:22:21.227 --> 00:22:27.637 - going to replace Flog as that company kind of takes a nosedive. Thompson responded that Bloomington's 00:22:27.637 --> 00:22:33.984 - automated license plate readers or ALPR contract expired and the camera referenced is likely another 00:22:33.984 --> 00:22:40.394 - kind of security camera, which she is not in support of removing. We have made very good use of those 00:22:40.394 --> 00:22:42.782 - cameras in solving two shootings now. 00:22:43.778 --> 00:22:50.967 - They are a safety risk to remove those. New legislation about motorized e-bikes was also a topic of 00:22:50.967 --> 00:22:58.155 - discussion and city council member Courtney Daly spoke about the city's considerations. It is scary 00:22:58.155 --> 00:23:05.487 - when we see them on the trails and when we're walking. I go down and I walk by Sherwood Oaks Park and 00:23:05.487 --> 00:23:11.454 - in between to Olcott and around there. And I've encountered several of them myself 00:23:11.842 --> 00:23:18.720 - It is frightening when you hear them coming up behind you. You don't know which way to jump. You think, 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:25.466 - do I have to jump? That's actually something that we do address in the ordinance is the behavior that 00:23:25.466 --> 00:23:32.410 - we expect on bicycles, scooters, motorized vehicles, and we define them. Again, the enforcement is going 00:23:32.410 --> 00:23:39.354 - to be difficult because Mayor Thompson is right. Chief DeKoff has said, we're not going to have officers 00:23:39.354 --> 00:23:41.470 - chasing these kids down because 00:23:41.698 --> 00:23:48.560 - that will end in disaster. That is then when they will get a little bit more reckless, they'll get scared, 00:23:48.560 --> 00:23:55.359 - they'll try to run, and that's when they will hit somebody or crash into something. So we are considering 00:23:55.359 --> 00:24:01.900 - the deterrent alternatives. How can we figure out maybe who's riding these bikes if we're not able to 00:24:01.900 --> 00:24:08.570 - catch them right there in that moment and give them the reprimand or the fine? But there will be a fine 00:24:08.570 --> 00:24:10.366 - system and a possibility of 00:24:11.042 --> 00:24:18.306 - repossession of the bike. The next traveling town hall will be on November 7th at Sherwood Oaks Church. 00:24:18.306 --> 00:24:25.150 - And that is all for Cats Week. Thank you for joining us. For Cats and WFHB, I'm Annalise Poorman.