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- Welcome to the Henry F. Schricker Library at Edgewood High School. And this is a candidate forum sponsored

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- by the League of Women Voters. My name is Ralph Shaw, and I will be the moderator for the session. And

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- I'm delighted that we have all four candidates for the Richland Bean Blossom Community School Corporation

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- School Board who are here today to answer your questions. And that's really what we're trying to do

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- is to hear

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- Whoever is here and you are representing the whole of the school corporation with your questions. We

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- are glad that the event is being recorded by CATS, Community Access Television Services from the Monroe

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- County Public Library. And so our friends and neighbors will be able to watch what we've asked and how

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- they have responded as they want to make their decisions about for whom to vote for school board.

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- So we have the four candidates and we're going to begin with each of them giving a one minute opening

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- statement about who they are. The first two are from the Bean Blossom District and the second two from

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- the Richland District. So those are the two races, one for each district. So if you're comparing people

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- and deciding where to place your vote, that would be the comparison you'd be making. After that, we

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- will go to questions from you.

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- And we also have some questions that were submitted in advance by people who responded by email. So

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- we'll work sort of back and forth. But the main idea is to get your questions forwarded and brought

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- to the candidates. And yes, if you have a question, it would be wonderful if you could come up here

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- so that people can hear what you have to say. If you'd rather not, Carol Gardner has note cards and

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- pencils if you want to write something down and have

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- If you want to write something legibly and have me read it, I would be glad to do that for you. So however,

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- whatever works best for you in terms of getting your questions onto the floor. So we'll have the one

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- minute opening statements from each of the candidates. Then we'll go to questions. At the end, we'll

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- have a minute for closing statements. Again, one minute. And surprise, they will each have a minute

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- to respond to the questions unless it turns out to be a question that seems

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- require a lot more than one minute to respond. Okay. So we will go ahead and start alphabetically. We'll

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- start on the end with Krista and move down this way. Okay. My name is Krista Curtis. I'm excited to

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- be running for school board. I have three

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- reasons why I'm running for school board. The first is that I really am excited and energized by the

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- things that are happening at Edgewood and definitely want to be a part of making this a great school.

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- Second reason that I'm running is that I am concerned for public education. I think the decisions being

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- made at a state level that are impacting funding

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- are something to be concerned about. And the third reason I'm running is I think that I have some really

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- good experience to help with those challenges. I've been a part of boards. I know what governance means.

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- I've led people through change. I've managed large budgets. And I've had to be involved in complex decision

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- making. And I know what it's like to have to take a lot of input from a lot of stakeholders and work

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- through that to get to a good decision.

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- So those are the three key reasons why I'm running. I'm happy to be here tonight. Perfect. And Jeremiah.

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- Yeah, I'm Jeremiah O'Neill. A few big reasons why I decided to run. Initially, I realized that Krista

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- was running uncontested, so I figured I might as well get in there and make it a choice or an option.

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- And then secondly, I have four kids that have went

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- Ellisville schools here, Edgewood and three of them are special needs and we've had our fair share of

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- problems. And so I don't want to pretend like everything's perfect and I want to make it better. And

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- I think that's really bad. I'll have to say about that. And then that'll just kind of encompass everybody,

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- every other kid too. And if I have to fight for my kids that need special services, then all the other

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- kids need them too. They need somebody to advocate for them and I'll be the guy to do it.

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- My name is Dennis Adams. I am running because I want to use my experience to help with the school and

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- a school I love. I went to Edgewood. All my family went to Edgewood. Kids, grandkids go to Edgewood.

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- I've lived in this area my whole life. I have a long-term business

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- experience. I've worked for the same company my entire career. I also have a lot of experience with

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- the state legislators. I am state president of our trade association and I helped pass our bill in 1987

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- and 15 times we've had to amend that bill and I had to go testify in front of

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- legislators. I've had to meet them one on one and I think I can use that. I'm also involved in the federal

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- side with our trade association. One thing I really want to do is I really want to thank the League

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- of Women Voters. This is such a positive thing to get this information out to the public and have forums

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- like this. I know they've been around for almost a hundred years promoting voting and I think that's

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- just a real, real nice thing they do.

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- Hi, my name is Kelly Scholl, and I am running for school board because I am passionate about public

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- education. I started my career in public education. I taught for about 12 years at high school, mostly

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- physics, and I

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- When I decided to leave the classroom, I went into higher education. I now help faculty at Indiana University

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- with their teaching. So I've spent my entire professional career in education. And I would like to be

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- able to give back to public education at the K-12 level again. One minute is hard.

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- I also want to thank everybody here for coming tonight. It's great to be able to talk to folks and be

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- able to have them hear from all of us and the League of Women Voters for hosting us as well. Thank you.

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- If you have a question, you can raise your hand.

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- start with an icebreaker question, and we'll just sort of go backwards down the road. So starting with

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- Kelly, the question, and you have a minute for response, because it's, what do you think is the most

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- critical issue that RBBCSC faces today?

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- So I think that the most critical issue that our corporation faces is building community, coalition,

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- and being able to have that strong foundation. I work in educational technology. The thing that I know

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- is that everything changes very quickly. The other thing with education is as new elections happen,

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- at the state level, at the federal level, the problems that we're gonna have in public education are

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- dependent upon those folks that are changing in those offices. So the challenges that we face are constantly

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- going to be changing, and so being able to have a background and a solid ground in caring for students

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- and educators is the thing that I think

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- helps me face those problems, but building the coalition, the community across our entire community,

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- where we can listen to everybody, is our most critical issue. Thank you. Gosh, that's hard. I think

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- one of our biggest challenges are budget cutbacks. How the money's being spent, how we're spending money

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- in a school, how much money we're getting from the state, how much less money we're getting from the

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- state in a lot of cases.

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- I'm from a business background. I think that business background, I know how to look at a budget. I

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- guarantee you I would question every line on a budget. I just came back from a board meeting and we

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- went through our budget line by line and determined what shouldn't be there and what should be there

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- and that was something that I bring to the table. Another thing is we're in competition. As a school,

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- we're in competition for teachers, we're in competition for students and we have to be

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- We have to have the best, and competition for teachers. We have to have the best teachers. We have to

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- have the best administrators. We have to want kids to come to our school because of the teachers, the

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- curriculum, and the facilities. The facilities are important because kids can go anywhere now. They

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- can go any school for any reason without even having a reason. So thank you. 60 seconds. Yeah.

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- I think the budget and money is a big part of it, but I think we've got to start right here at home

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- and fix problems here before we worry about going elsewhere for answers. Same as Dennis, it sounds like

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- I do a lot of commercial real estate work, project management, I manage hundreds and hundreds of facilities

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- that probably make this place look very small. We talk about budgets all the time, we talk about return

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- on investment, we talk about

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- where we spend our money and where do we get the most value. Do some of the projects that we have going

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- on around here serve everybody? I'm not sure that they do. I wonder sometimes if maybe money could be

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- spent differently and provide a better free and appropriate education for everybody that attends RBB.

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- Well, I'd have to agree that I think the biggest challenge right now is funding. Dr. Sanders has shared

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- publicly that the school corporation is going to need to find a million dollars to cut in expenses this

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- next school year, and that's not a small problem. And you have to do that while still supporting students,

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- because as you said, every student deserves an education. I mean, the law requires this community school

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- corporation to provide every student with an education.

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- And at the same time, we need to be able to appropriately pay our teachers. So I think that the school

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- board will have to, I think they're already doing it, and I think you're gonna have to continue to look

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- at every penny that gets spent, every project, while at the same time meeting their obligations. So

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- I think related to this, the other big challenge is making sure

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- that our legislators understand the decisions they're making and the impact it's having at a local level.

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- And I'm not sure that they always do. So somehow we have to tell that story. Are there questions or

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- people thinking of questions that you're going to write down to funnel to Carol?

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- So I don't have an infinite number of questions suggested by the public, by the way. So you should,

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- as they used to say in kindergarten, put on your thinking cap and be thinking about the questions that

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- brought you out here tonight. What would you really like to know from these people? They are assembled

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- here. I'm sorry. I do have questions. I thought someone else was coming up here to ask questions. No,

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- if you want to come up here, that would be great, because then Kat's going to be sure to record your

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- question. Thank you.

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- So I'm Jeremiah's wife, and we have four kiddos. Three of those kiddos are autistic and have utilized

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- services at RBB. We've had an amazing experience up until this year. That's no secret. So I have some

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- questions specifically for Krista.

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- You posted a September 8th video on Facebook, and it said that a board must ensure district policies

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- actually work. When families have used the complaint process, raise concerns directly with the board,

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- and still lack a documented resolution, what should the board do to verify that administrators address

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- the problem? Yeah, that's a great question. I have thought about this a lot.

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- Did the minute start? As we know, it's not the board's job to run the corporation day to day, right?

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- But I do think we need to listen. I think we need to pay attention to what parents are saying, what

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- teachers are saying, and what students are saying. And so when we hear feedback, I think we need to

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- ask questions. I don't ever think you should just assume policies are working. It's important to go to where

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- things are happening and understand it firsthand. My belief is that because I deal with this sometimes

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- at work and you hear things and you you don't always know if it's a singular situation or if there is

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- a systemic trend and I think one of the things I always try to pay attention to is there's that old

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- adage you know where there's where there's smoke there's fire and the more that you hear something it's

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- very likely that there's a problem that needs to be addressed.

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- And so that's how I would handle it. I would ask questions of the administration. I'd go back to the

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- policies. Are we following the policies? Are they working? If not, then we need to look at revising

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- the policies. I guess my question too is, I mean, if you look at some of the board policies, school

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- board members do have oversight over superintendent and administration. They do have oversight

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- and accountability and transparency.

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- to assure those policies and that those issues are being resolved. So we can't just, to me, I don't

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- want to go on a tangent, but we just can't go back, push parents back to administrators and say, well,

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- you know, we can't do it because we don't do the day-to-day stuff that's on administrators. I think

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- that there are people in the other parts of the room that want to hear what's going on here.

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- Is this mic not- It is recording to cats, but it's not- Okay, I'm so sorry. I'll try to speak louder

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- if that helps. So just as a parent experiencing that, I just think it's important that as a group of

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- parents that approaches a board with an issue,

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- We just don't push them back to administrators and then it just fizzles out and it's gone So I guess

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- my next follow-up question would be What objective evidence would you require before accepting that

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- a serious administrative problem has been resolved? I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not a school board

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- member yet So I don't exactly know how they do that today I

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- I think that some of it is you just have to ask good questions. And if it's not lining up and it's not

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- making sense, sometimes you have to go with your intuition. But I do agree with you that part of the

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- role of the school board is to hold the superintendent accountable. Well, I can speak as a parent that

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- has come to the board with issues that was promised that this would be looked into.

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- and never heard a single thing back from that. So that was a concern of mine as well. Could we kind

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- of broaden the question now and ask the other candidates for your ideas? Yeah. So I have one more question.

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- OK. Just be thinking about the relationship between the school board and the administration. We'll move

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- on. School board and the administration. OK. So my next question would be for Kelly.

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- And my question is, given that your husband is the principal of Edgewood Intermediate, what specific

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- safeguards would you provide to like independent oversight when board decisions could affect his employment,

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- his salary, and staffing, and professional accountability? Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for that.

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- I really appreciate that because it's not something that has come up and something that I have been

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- able to address publicly so I do appreciate that question. So first I will say that there has not there's

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- not a shortage of or this wouldn't be the first time that there is a school board member that has a

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- relationship with somebody else that works in the school corporation. There was a school board member who wife

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- did work in the corporation and has since retired, and there is a board member whose wife currently

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- works in the school corporation. So it's not unusual. Second, I will share that you can talk with my

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- husband at any point in time. We do not always agree. We do not always see eye to eye, and we are not

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- afraid to be in conversation with that. And then finally, I thought about this before running a lot.

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- I would recuse myself from any administrative contract conversation. That is not something that I would

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- want to participate in because I can obviously benefit from that. Okay, I think that's all my questions.

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- Thank you. So when the minute runs out,

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- Please go ahead and finish your sentence. We're not going to come up here with a hook and pull you off

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- the stage or something like that. So the question that came up, the specific question, but more generally

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- about the board and the administration, this is a question from the audience. If the district office

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- doesn't resolve an issue, can the parent go directly to the board to make them aware of the situation

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- and receive some backup?

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- So let's go first to Jeremiah and work around this way. Sure. Yeah, I mean, that's what we did. You

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- feel like you're not getting the support you need at the school level. You could go to a school board

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- meeting. You could air your concerns and your grievances. They should be heard and they should

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- be investigated and

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- and more than probably just a fleeting thought, you know, some actual consideration and time and effort

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- put into how that specific concern could be addressed. And then, you know, there's always ways to escalate

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- above and beyond the school district. So there's usually a chain of command when there's an issue where

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- in business. So you have steps where you make your

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- um, feelings known about a situation. But I am open to any time take questions or answer questions that

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- I can if it's something I can deal with or could. I'm I'm like Krista. I don't know. I've never been

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- on the board. I don't know all the rules, but I know that I take calls 24 seven.

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- from my employees, from my customers, and I will do it from any citizen or anyone who has a issue if

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- they don't feel like it's being handled through the proper normal channels. And I will address that

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- any time. I'll take emails, calls, texts. I will take that information. But I weigh everything. I weigh

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- both ends. I want to hear everything anyone has to say, and then I'll address it with the proper

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- proper people that hopefully could fix the problem. If it's a legitimate problem, we want it fixed.

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- So. So community members directly communicating with board members. Again, I am not a board member,

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- so I do not know if there are rules about this, but I know that we have all said in it previously that

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- course we want to listen that's the point of us being here we want to serve the community we want to

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- serve public education and so yes I would take I would be happy to listen to anybody that has an issue

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- that hasn't been resolved I know that I myself as a parent have had issues that haven't been resolved

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- and I've had to be the person continually going back and

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- for months asking for what the resolution is and it's not a great feeling and you want answers and I

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- want to help be a person that can find those answers. So the seat that Jeremiah and I are running for

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- was held by Angie Jacobs who's retiring and when I was thinking about running for school board I had

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- a conversation with Angie about like what's this like and one of the things she told me was that

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- Her goal was to always be a safe space for people to provide feedback, whether it was a parent or a

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- student or a teacher, that she created a reputation that people could come to her and give her feedback.

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- And I think that's really, really important. And that's part of the reason I ran, is I wanted to do that.

00:22:39.842 --> 00:22:45.702
- a person that people feel comfortable coming to me and giving me feedback. I don't believe anything

00:22:45.702 --> 00:22:51.972
- is ever perfect. I think there's always room for improvement. And so I think we have to hear it firsthand.

00:22:51.972 --> 00:22:57.949
- So I don't know, as was said, I don't know all the rules for how we're going to manage that. But I do

00:22:57.949 --> 00:23:03.926
- want to be a place where people can come and provide feedback. And I think if you hear, as I said, if

00:23:03.926 --> 00:23:05.918
- you hear feedback multiple times,

00:23:06.082 --> 00:23:13.582
- that likely means there's a big problem that needs to be addressed and then I would want to work with

00:23:13.582 --> 00:23:21.229
- the administration and my hope would be the administration would be open just like I was open that they

00:23:21.229 --> 00:23:28.655
- would be open to that feedback and that the resolution would be clear. Kelly had a specific received

00:23:28.655 --> 00:23:35.934
- a question specifically about conflict of interest and we received an email question that was that

00:23:36.098 --> 00:23:43.032
- that connects with some of the same issues more generally. So what I'd like to do is to start with Krista

00:23:43.032 --> 00:23:49.705
- with this question, and Kelly, yeah, if you feel that you have something more that you want to say on

00:23:49.705 --> 00:23:56.509
- the topic, you can, but we'll just start at that end and work this way. And the question was, are there

00:23:56.509 --> 00:24:03.116
- any board voting or oversight areas where you might have a conflict of interest, and if so, what are

00:24:03.116 --> 00:24:05.406
- those and how would you handle it?

00:24:07.426 --> 00:24:14.623
- I'm not aware of any. I have been attending board meetings over the past few months to try to understand

00:24:14.623 --> 00:24:21.477
- the business of the board a little better. I'm not aware of any. I do work for Cook Medical and the

00:24:21.477 --> 00:24:28.399
- New Life Sciences Training Center that's being built out here. We are looking to partner. My company

00:24:28.399 --> 00:24:35.390
- is looking to partner with them, but otherwise I don't believe that I have any conflicts of interest.

00:24:36.322 --> 00:24:44.646
- So I definitely don't have any relationships with any person on the board, in the school district, with

00:24:44.646 --> 00:24:52.889
- any contractors that do any work at these premises. No, zero issues there. And as far as the nepotism,

00:24:52.889 --> 00:25:01.213
- it's a bigger problem. I call it a problem. It's a problem in my workplace all the time. It causes lots

00:25:01.213 --> 00:25:03.134
- of issues and it's not,

00:25:03.714 --> 00:25:11.639
- Just Andy and Kelly. There's a lot of other issues like that in the school district. So yeah, I mean,

00:25:11.639 --> 00:25:19.563
- I can see that being a problem. So my sister does work in the budgeting office, but she does not have

00:25:19.563 --> 00:25:27.410
- any, she's not supervisor to anyone. She's not involved in any policy issues. If anything came up, I

00:25:27.410 --> 00:25:33.470
- would recuse myself, but I don't believe that is any kind of conflict at all.

00:25:33.634 --> 00:25:40.918
- entering this race with no obligation to anybody. I don't owe anybody anything. I haven't promised anybody

00:25:40.918 --> 00:25:47.930
- anything. So I am open-minded on all subjects that come up. I've been going to the board meeting since

00:25:47.930 --> 00:25:54.738
- I decided to run. I had to miss one just to try to learn. And I didn't know that much about it, but

00:25:54.738 --> 00:25:58.686
- I'm learning a lot. I knew what basically a board did was

00:25:59.394 --> 00:26:07.900
- budgeting issues, policy issues, and hiring the superintendent and making good choices on that for our

00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:16.488
- leadership. And I don't feel like I have a conflict. So my husband does work in the school corporation.

00:26:16.488 --> 00:26:25.159
- And I did already address that. The other conflicts of interest that I would see, I do have two children

00:26:25.159 --> 00:26:28.958
- in the school corporation. They are involved.

00:26:29.314 --> 00:26:38.631
- children. Athletics, extracurriculars, show choir, and sometimes there are budget lines that come across.

00:26:38.631 --> 00:26:47.508
- I see those as for all students, not just for my two students, but I would definitely be open to not

00:26:47.508 --> 00:26:56.472
- participating in those parts of those conversations if that felt unfair. There are five board members

00:26:56.472 --> 00:26:58.494
- for a reason, and so I

00:26:59.010 --> 00:27:08.510
- would be happy to recuse myself from those conversations. But in general, I work in higher end. I deal

00:27:08.510 --> 00:27:11.646
- with lots of big budgets as well.

00:27:12.642 --> 00:27:20.657
- and budgets that are specifically in buckets, similar to what K-12 budgets look like, and that you can

00:27:20.657 --> 00:27:28.439
- only spend money in certain ways. And so I'm very familiar with what that looks like and understand

00:27:28.439 --> 00:27:36.454
- that while approving a budget for maybe a choir event, that that couldn't be spent on teacher salaries

00:27:36.454 --> 00:27:40.734
- and things of that nature. So, sorry, I'm out of time.

00:27:41.602 --> 00:27:48.384
- I will leave it there. I think it's interesting to me to just hear their comments on this question,

00:27:48.384 --> 00:27:55.302
- because it's so clear that the school board has to represent the community. And if you had people who

00:27:55.302 --> 00:28:02.424
- are not of the community trying to make decisions for the community, that's a different kind of problem.

00:28:02.424 --> 00:28:07.646
- So it's definitely a balancing question wherever the problem arises or lies.

00:28:08.450 --> 00:28:17.161
- Another question that came from the audience. Could each, oh, let's see, we will start with Dennis and

00:28:17.161 --> 00:28:25.618
- go this way around the table. Could each candidate discuss how career and technical education could

00:28:25.618 --> 00:28:34.414
- advance in RBB in the next five years? So career and technical education over the next five years, what

00:28:34.414 --> 00:28:36.190
- prospects do we see?

00:28:36.482 --> 00:28:44.330
- big believer in all kids are not going to college. They don't want to go to college. When I was in school,

00:28:44.330 --> 00:28:51.884
- they didn't want to go to college. Having the steps to go into other industries, the last school board

00:28:51.884 --> 00:28:59.292
- meeting talked about a partnership with Eli Lilly to have steps to go from high school to college to

00:28:59.292 --> 00:29:05.086
- them. That is huge. All of the different partnerships they have with the other

00:29:05.506 --> 00:29:12.258
- biosciences companies around here, because there's so many of them, and having those partnerships with

00:29:12.258 --> 00:29:19.207
- kids that will go to college, a lot of them, but then there's the trades. The trades are amazing. There's

00:29:19.207 --> 00:29:25.762
- so many, a plumber can make more than a college graduate now. And having those trades, and whenever

00:29:25.762 --> 00:29:31.006
- we came to the open house that they had, and seeing the audio video over at the

00:29:31.106 --> 00:29:39.242
- over at the elementary or junior high. That was amazing to me on what they're doing and what they're

00:29:39.242 --> 00:29:47.943
- learning in AI and what they're learning in video is to me steps for the kids in every aspect from college,

00:29:47.943 --> 00:29:55.999
- trades, workforce. I think it's all needs to be through the school to develop the kids to what they

00:29:55.999 --> 00:30:00.510
- want to go into. So I believe in education in any form.

00:30:00.642 --> 00:30:08.306
- So if a student wants to graduate and go to higher education, that's great. If they want to graduate,

00:30:08.306 --> 00:30:15.970
- the goal here, the through line is graduate. We want to have all of our students graduate and want to

00:30:15.970 --> 00:30:22.206
- go into trades. There's still education, right? Tradesmanship education is kind of

00:30:22.306 --> 00:30:29.307
- the foundation of education and how we are passing on skills from one to the next. I don't think that

00:30:29.307 --> 00:30:36.239
- any one education is better than another if that's what serves the student and that's what they want

00:30:36.239 --> 00:30:43.377
- to do. So continuing to explore the ideas and possibilities to partner with folks in our community that

00:30:43.377 --> 00:30:47.358
- would be willing to offer trades and technical education.

00:30:47.522 --> 00:30:53.490
- still education and I think education is a benefit no matter what it looks like. That includes service.

00:30:53.490 --> 00:30:59.400
- Folks that want to graduate and go directly into service are getting an education through that service

00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:05.195
- and by serving and possibly getting credits in addition to further education beyond service as well.

00:31:05.195 --> 00:31:11.220
- So I think that it's important that we continue to look for partnerships in ways that we can serve every

00:31:11.220 --> 00:31:15.294
- single student in the education that they want beyond the high school.

00:31:17.794 --> 00:31:25.357
- I should write it down when you ask I'm sorry. How career and technical education could advance in our

00:31:25.357 --> 00:31:32.993
- BB in the next five years okay well first of all I think our BB is already well on its way I mean there

00:31:32.993 --> 00:31:40.777
- are 16 career pathways that are available right now in the high school. And I mentioned the life sciences

00:31:40.777 --> 00:31:43.934
- training center that's being built I think

00:31:44.354 --> 00:31:51.211
- through the Ready Schools initiatives over the last five years, they've done some pretty incredible

00:31:51.211 --> 00:31:58.274
- things. I agree with what everyone said, that every kiddo should be able to follow their path, whether

00:31:58.274 --> 00:32:05.337
- that's trades, that's community college, it's four-year degree, it's the military, they should be able

00:32:05.337 --> 00:32:12.126
- to follow that path. And I really, one of the things that I think is really cool is the focus that

00:32:12.770 --> 00:32:19.301
- RBB has on, they want to make sure that every student leaves with a plan. Dr. Sanders talks about this

00:32:19.301 --> 00:32:25.768
- a lot. They want every student to leave with a plan. So I think we're on our way, but I think there's

00:32:25.768 --> 00:32:32.362
- more that can be done to expand, especially into the trades. Yeah, I mean, that's definitely good stuff

00:32:32.362 --> 00:32:39.146
- for sure. Some kids are going to go to college. We're still going to need lawyers and doctors and dentists

00:32:39.146 --> 00:32:40.414
- and all the things.

00:32:40.834 --> 00:32:46.755
- I think trades, the life sciences, that's super important. I think that that could be expanded on in

00:32:46.755 --> 00:32:53.087
- the offerings. There's lots of different fields and trades. A lot of you have probably seen the statistics.

00:32:53.087 --> 00:32:59.009
- We're losing trades, people. People are retiring quicker than they're coming into the trades. And it

00:32:59.009 --> 00:33:02.878
- won't be long before we don't have the service people to keep our

00:33:03.042 --> 00:33:09.495
- our buildings, our infrastructure operating in the way it does currently without having more young people

00:33:09.495 --> 00:33:15.584
- join the trades. So I'm not saying I would push anybody in the direction suggesting that that's the

00:33:15.584 --> 00:33:21.915
- best fit, but I think it should be a better presented option and accommodate all those different kiddos

00:33:21.915 --> 00:33:26.238
- with something that may appeal to them because one size don't fit all.

00:33:33.730 --> 00:33:41.465
- So another question from the audience and there's still time for you to get yours in. What is one decision,

00:33:41.465 --> 00:33:48.843
- oh, we'll start with Kelly and go around this way. What is one decision the school board has made that

00:33:48.843 --> 00:33:56.148
- you disagree with and why do you disagree? Can I have a minute to think? You can't because I will say

00:33:56.148 --> 00:34:03.454
- we have just been so lucky with using this facility that people from the school stepped up and helped

00:34:03.874 --> 00:34:10.804
- regardless of how well educated they were and advanced degrees or whatever, this space was reconfigured

00:34:10.804 --> 00:34:17.933
- so that it kind of works for our forum. And so thanks to the school corporation for helping us and letting

00:34:17.933 --> 00:34:24.663
- us have this facility for this evening's presentation. I'm really very thankful for that. So anyway,

00:34:24.663 --> 00:34:32.126
- the question was what is one decision the school board has made that you disagree with and why do you disagree?

00:34:35.746 --> 00:34:44.321
- This one's throwing me off a little. I am racking my brain. I think that we're lucky to live in this

00:34:44.321 --> 00:34:52.811
- community, because I cannot think of a single thing. That's not to say the school board hasn't made

00:34:52.811 --> 00:35:01.301
- a decision that I possibly disagree with, but I don't think that it's anything that would be major,

00:35:01.301 --> 00:35:03.678
- a major decision that I can

00:35:03.810 --> 00:35:11.915
- I can think of. I think the board members that are currently serving have done a great job in leading

00:35:11.915 --> 00:35:20.020
- us and leading RBB in partnership with Dr. Sanders and all of the teachers in the corporation. I'd be

00:35:20.020 --> 00:35:28.046
- open to hear if somebody, whoever submitted the question, if they had something they disagreed with,

00:35:28.046 --> 00:35:32.734
- I'd be open to be in conversation to hear more about that.

00:35:33.698 --> 00:35:41.054
- because I honestly can't think of anything, so sorry. So first of all, I don't know that anything in

00:35:41.054 --> 00:35:48.702
- the past, like recent past, I would say that I've disagreed with the decision. I have heard conversation

00:35:48.702 --> 00:35:52.926
- at school board meetings at times where I'm like, I don't

00:35:53.026 --> 00:35:59.567
- agree with that comment, or I would not have handled that that way. So that has happened for me. I'm

00:35:59.567 --> 00:36:06.109
- not going to be specific about that right now. But the thing that came to my mind when you asked the

00:36:06.109 --> 00:36:12.650
- question was actually about my son, because I think that's probably what sticks with us is our kids'

00:36:12.650 --> 00:36:19.386
- experiences. And my son was a COVID kid, and he didn't get to have his graduation. And that was really,

00:36:19.386 --> 00:36:22.430
- really hard. Like while I understood the need,

00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:28.891
- the impact of that those few months on those kids and then to go off into the world and deal with that.

00:36:28.891 --> 00:36:35.253
- I mean, it's going to be something they carry with them forever. We did when he graduated from college,

00:36:35.253 --> 00:36:41.737
- we tried to make sure we celebrated it because it was a big deal to him. And I think we have to recognize

00:36:41.737 --> 00:36:47.914
- that when these kids go through wherever they land after they leave, it is a journey for them and it

00:36:47.914 --> 00:36:49.566
- deserves to be celebrated.

00:36:53.570 --> 00:37:01.110
- I have a couple right off the top of my head from personal experiences. So beginning of this school

00:37:01.110 --> 00:37:08.650
- year was pretty rough for us and our family. And several families had to come together and push for

00:37:08.650 --> 00:37:16.190
- change. And part of that process, we actually tried to push for some more formal policy, especially

00:37:16.190 --> 00:37:21.694
- how it relates to special education safeguards. How are we ensuring that

00:37:21.986 --> 00:37:28.653
- our special needs children, you know, one of ours is nonverbal. He could not come home and tell us how

00:37:28.653 --> 00:37:35.320
- his day went. If he went to recess, if he went to lunch, if he had specials, if he had speech therapy,

00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:42.376
- if he had occupational therapy. So we really feel like a lot of families felt like there should be something

00:37:42.376 --> 00:37:49.108
- better in place to document and keep parents informed about how services are being delivered to school.

00:37:49.108 --> 00:37:50.014
- And that was.

00:37:50.754 --> 00:37:57.468
- delivered to administration and the school board. Didn't really go anywhere. So that's one, and I think

00:37:57.468 --> 00:38:03.923
- it's really worth investigating. And part of that was cameras in special ed classrooms. And Indiana

00:38:03.923 --> 00:38:10.637
- talked about passing the law a year or two ago. It just didn't go through because of funding. My time's

00:38:10.637 --> 00:38:17.221
- up. But I could talk about that for hours. So I have tremendous respect for our school board, for our

00:38:17.221 --> 00:38:20.126
- current school board and past school boards.

00:38:20.610 --> 00:38:26.744
- I do not have an issue where I know of a vote that I disagree with, but I also haven't been following

00:38:26.744 --> 00:38:32.819
- as much until recently as I would in the past. I remember back when I was in school how much respect

00:38:32.819 --> 00:38:39.013
- I had for the school board members then, and I think that continues. The administration I have respect

00:38:39.013 --> 00:38:45.328
- for and the school board. I do have one issue I don't think it's a school board issue that my wife keeps

00:38:45.328 --> 00:38:49.598
- bothering me about is kindergartners only having 20 minutes of recess.

00:38:49.986 --> 00:38:56.537
- because that's an issue that I have had people come to me about. I don't know if that's a school board

00:38:56.537 --> 00:39:03.214
- issue, but that is something that has been, several people have mentioned it to me. And my granddaughter

00:39:03.214 --> 00:39:09.574
- goes to a school in Indianapolis and she's in kindergarten and she has two 15 minute recesses and a

00:39:09.574 --> 00:39:15.934
- 15 minute where they rest, put their head down and rest. So that's the only comment I have on that.

00:39:21.218 --> 00:39:30.101
- Thanks. So this one also came from the public. While teaching experience provides valuable insight into

00:39:30.101 --> 00:39:38.643
- education, school board responsibilities extend beyond the classroom to include policy development,

00:39:38.643 --> 00:39:47.270
- financial oversight, strategic planning, and superintendent accountability. I just realized I didn't

00:39:47.270 --> 00:39:49.662
- say where we were starting.

00:39:51.042 --> 00:39:58.458
- So this one goes first to Krista. Okay, so you've got that huge list of responsibilities. Okay, education,

00:39:58.458 --> 00:40:05.943
- we have responsibilities beyond the classroom to include policy development, financial oversight, strategic

00:40:05.943 --> 00:40:12.874
- planning, and superintendent accountability. What qualifications and experiences do you believe are

00:40:12.874 --> 00:40:16.478
- most important for an effective school board member

00:40:16.674 --> 00:40:23.617
- And how do you distinguish the board's governance responsibilities from the day-to-day responsibilities

00:40:23.617 --> 00:40:30.493
- of educators and administrators? It's a big question. That was a lot. Yeah. Let's make that 90 seconds

00:40:30.493 --> 00:40:31.294
- to respond.

00:40:32.770 --> 00:40:40.053
- What was the last one? OK. The last one was the second part here. It was about the separation of educators.

00:40:40.053 --> 00:40:46.999
- Yeah. So what qualifications and experiences do you believe are most important for an effective school

00:40:46.999 --> 00:40:54.215
- board member, the qualifications and experience for you? And how do you distinguish the board's governance

00:40:54.215 --> 00:41:01.566
- responsibilities from the day-to-day of educators and administrators? Sure. OK. And I can go over that again

00:41:01.794 --> 00:41:08.364
- for each of you before you jump into it, if that helps. I honestly think the most important thing is

00:41:08.364 --> 00:41:14.868
- that you care. I think that's the most important. I don't think there's anybody sitting up here who

00:41:14.868 --> 00:41:21.438
- doesn't care. Care about school, care about kids, care about teachers. So I think that's number one.

00:41:21.730 --> 00:41:28.864
- I have experience in every area, but superintendent accountability, that's new to me, but I do understand

00:41:28.864 --> 00:41:35.595
- holding people accountable. I do have experience in all of those other areas. I think that that can

00:41:35.595 --> 00:41:42.326
- be valuable, but I don't know that you have to have all of that to be a good school board member. I

00:41:42.326 --> 00:41:49.662
- think that you have to listen. I think you have to have a willingness to learn. There's a lot of regulation,

00:41:49.662 --> 00:41:51.614
- and there's a lot of policy.

00:41:51.714 --> 00:41:58.183
- And I feel like I've been trying to learn, but I've barely scratched the surface. So I know the school

00:41:58.183 --> 00:42:04.777
- board members go through an orientation. And so I think a willingness to listen, a willingness to learn,

00:42:04.777 --> 00:42:11.246
- always putting students and teachers first, I think are the most important things. So this whole issue

00:42:11.246 --> 00:42:17.589
- about governance versus day-to-day is very interesting to me. And I think Nicole asked a really good

00:42:17.589 --> 00:42:20.478
- question related to it. You know, as a board,

00:42:20.610 --> 00:42:27.759
- As a board member, you're told policy governance, not day to day. But it's hard. Because if policy doesn't

00:42:27.759 --> 00:42:34.507
- lead to the right day to day outcomes, you have to understand that. And then you have to go back and

00:42:34.507 --> 00:42:41.389
- revisit policy. So I'm not sure, as a board member, how you can set policy if you don't understand the

00:42:41.389 --> 00:42:48.338
- outcomes of that policy. So it's a question I've wanted to ask board members about to better understand

00:42:48.338 --> 00:42:50.142
- how do they navigate that.

00:42:50.306 --> 00:42:58.122
- because you can't disconnect them. Probably a good thing. Okay, so just to recap for you, Jeremiah.

00:42:58.122 --> 00:43:06.564
- So the responsibilities for the school board members extend beyond classroom to include policy development,

00:43:06.564 --> 00:43:15.006
- financial oversight, strategic planning, and superintendent accountability. So a range of responsibilities.

00:43:15.330 --> 00:43:23.051
- what qualifications and experiences are most important for an effective school board member and how

00:43:23.051 --> 00:43:30.772
- do you distinguish between governance and day-to-day responsibilities? I think the very first thing

00:43:30.772 --> 00:43:37.566
- that I think would be important would be listening. People don't come forth with issues

00:43:38.530 --> 00:43:44.165
- I wouldn't say most of the time if they're not really issues. So I think you have to listen. You have

00:43:44.165 --> 00:43:49.746
- to take what they're saying seriously. You have to look at it through their lens because we all walk

00:43:49.746 --> 00:43:55.381
- different lives. You have no idea what they're going through and you need to empathize and sympathize

00:43:55.381 --> 00:44:01.072
- and listen to what they have to say and try to understand how you can make a change that would benefit

00:44:01.072 --> 00:44:06.873
- not only that person and their child, but maybe every other child in the district. The governance piece,

00:44:06.873 --> 00:44:08.254
- yeah, I mean, obviously,

00:44:08.386 --> 00:44:15.337
- all of us would have a lot to learn. I'd be the first one to say, draw it out with crown so I can understand

00:44:15.337 --> 00:44:21.714
- it. Because I don't know how this works. I'm going to learn. I'm willing to learn. I'm always quick

00:44:21.714 --> 00:44:28.282
- to research and dive into things and try to understand them better and try to pick it apart and figure

00:44:28.282 --> 00:44:34.723
- out how it can be better. So yeah, I mean, I think if I missed any part of that, please let me know.

00:44:34.723 --> 00:44:35.998
- I'm not sure. Yeah.

00:44:41.346 --> 00:44:47.354
- Speaking of experience, I already mentioned that I had a board of directors meeting for another trade

00:44:47.354 --> 00:44:53.362
- association I'm a member of. And it's very similar to a school board. The most important things is we

00:44:53.362 --> 00:44:59.252
- dictate the policy. We go through the budget. But the most important thing is we choose the leader,

00:44:59.252 --> 00:45:05.259
- the president of that organization. In the case of a school board, it's the superintendent. It's very

00:45:05.259 --> 00:45:11.326
- important that you make wise choices with superintendent. I think we have an excellent superintendent.

00:45:11.938 --> 00:45:19.013
- But you have to make those decisions, and you have to have good hires. Once you have good hires, then

00:45:19.013 --> 00:45:26.088
- you let the people do their jobs. You trust the process. And if something goes awry, then you address

00:45:26.088 --> 00:45:33.094
- it. You're always open to that, but you let the process take care of itself to a certain point. So I

00:45:33.094 --> 00:45:40.446
- think that's very important that we do. I wrote some stuff down, so I don't need to recap, but thank you.

00:45:40.610 --> 00:45:49.554
- So I do have experience in education, as I already shared, and I do think that that experience is valuable.

00:45:49.554 --> 00:45:58.084
- Knowing in advance how policies land and what policies mean when they go passed down to the classroom,

00:45:58.084 --> 00:46:03.550
- I think is important having that experience, or at least helpful.

00:46:03.778 --> 00:46:11.980
- As far as the rest of the things, the policy, the financial, the strategic planning, those are all things

00:46:11.980 --> 00:46:19.718
- that I currently have experience with in my current professional career. I am a director of faculty

00:46:19.718 --> 00:46:24.670
- fellow programs at IU, and I manage all of our budget for that.

00:46:24.770 --> 00:46:31.541
- policies for how those programs are implemented when they start and end all of those sorts of things

00:46:31.541 --> 00:46:38.513
- for as far as strategic planning and incorporating new technologies as they come along so we don't have

00:46:38.513 --> 00:46:45.284
- a program for AI we need to create a program for AI we need to create several levels of programs for

00:46:45.284 --> 00:46:52.122
- that so that we have things that we can up skill faculty first and then we can talk about how are you

00:46:52.122 --> 00:46:54.736
- adjusting your curriculum and literacy

00:46:54.736 --> 00:47:05.744
- over those things. Oversight is also something I do not necessarily have experience with for an individual

00:47:05.744 --> 00:47:15.518
- other than the people that I work with but not over an entire school corporation. And then how

00:47:15.810 --> 00:47:22.409
- keeping the things different between the school board and the day-to-day of educators, similar to what

00:47:22.409 --> 00:47:29.136
- Krista said, it's really hard to separate those two things, and also because the policies that the board

00:47:29.136 --> 00:47:35.542
- create do directly impact what happens in the classroom. I know that from experience, and sometimes

00:47:35.542 --> 00:47:42.205
- it can be really great, and sometimes it can make the job harder of educators. But I will also say that

00:47:42.205 --> 00:47:43.102
- it is not the

00:47:43.426 --> 00:47:51.611
- board's job to tell educators what to do or to tell administrators how to do. It is to work through

00:47:51.611 --> 00:47:59.960
- policy to make those day to day things easier for educators and for kids. So it is not our job to run

00:47:59.960 --> 00:48:07.326
- the day to day, tell people how to do the day to day, but to create policies that support

00:48:07.458 --> 00:48:16.484
- the educators and the administrators who are professionals and have degrees to empower them to do the

00:48:16.484 --> 00:48:25.332
- things that they know how to do. Thank you. Big question. So the next one starts with Jeremiah, and

00:48:25.332 --> 00:48:28.606
- this is a question from people here.

00:48:30.242 --> 00:48:37.342
- Do you support banning any books from the school libraries? And if a request to ban a book came to the

00:48:37.342 --> 00:48:44.443
- school board, what steps would you take to make your decision? No books on my list to be banned at the

00:48:44.443 --> 00:48:51.406
- moment. We've got hundreds and hundreds of books at our house, and hours and hours of reading happen

00:48:51.406 --> 00:48:58.575
- every day at our house, and I'm not gonna be the one to tell kids what they can and can't read. I mean,

00:48:58.575 --> 00:48:59.678
- I would look to

00:49:00.290 --> 00:49:07.228
- The board members, if there's overwhelming majority support for something, I mean, convince me. I mean,

00:49:07.228 --> 00:49:13.966
- I'm open all ears. Tell me why you think that we should man a book. If I think it's ridiculous, I'll

00:49:13.966 --> 00:49:20.704
- tell you that. I would be open minded to why and listen to the reason. But I believe in trusting the

00:49:20.704 --> 00:49:27.508
- process of the people who are in charge of determining what books are in the library. I don't know of

00:49:27.508 --> 00:49:30.110
- any issue. I haven't heard any issues.

00:49:30.370 --> 00:49:39.073
- But I believe that the teachers or the librarians or the administrator who oversees it have the kids'

00:49:39.073 --> 00:49:47.861
- best interest in mind. And if there's somebody that proves to me that it's different, I'll look at it.

00:49:47.861 --> 00:49:56.990
- But as of right now, I don't know of anything that's going on right now, so. It's a funny question sitting

00:49:56.990 --> 00:50:00.062
- in a library. I, in general, am not

00:50:00.418 --> 00:50:08.460
- would not be open to or not be an advocate for banning books. Education is or knowledge is power. Education

00:50:08.460 --> 00:50:16.055
- gives power to students. I do think age appropriate books are important. So I'm not going to have the

00:50:16.055 --> 00:50:23.948
- same books in the high school library that I would have in the elementary library. And that is important.

00:50:23.948 --> 00:50:25.214
- But I think that

00:50:25.538 --> 00:50:33.067
- As long as we have age appropriate books in our libraries that in general I'm not gonna be banning books

00:50:33.067 --> 00:50:40.525
- like everyone else. Obviously open to listening and hearing perspectives of the community and listening

00:50:40.525 --> 00:50:47.839
- to anything that might be outrageous. I do agree that if there was something that was outrageous, I'm

00:50:47.839 --> 00:50:54.078
- pretty sure our librarians would be on top of that. I trust them as professionals, so.

00:50:57.602 --> 00:51:04.817
- In general, I would say no. I think that kiddos are gonna go learn things, whether you make it available

00:51:04.817 --> 00:51:11.758
- or not. I'd prefer to have conversations with my kids around tough subjects. So I would say no. I've

00:51:11.758 --> 00:51:18.629
- assumed the question is kind of being asked in the sense of the things that we see happening around

00:51:18.629 --> 00:51:25.982
- the country. So I would say no, I'm not cool with that. I read a lot of books growing up and learned a lot

00:51:26.690 --> 00:51:32.805
- from those books. I agree with age appropriate. That's something I've had to watch with my own daughter.

00:51:32.805 --> 00:51:38.920
- She's asked sometimes to read books that I've not let me check this out. Not yet, but we will get there.

00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:45.094
- So I would say generally no, and I would much prefer to have conversations with kids about tough subjects

00:51:45.094 --> 00:51:46.142
- than ignore them.

00:51:55.938 --> 00:52:03.044
- to compliment everybody who has submitted questions so far. Your penmanship has been excellent. Thank

00:52:03.044 --> 00:52:10.150
- you so much. If somebody wants to test my ability and write an illegible question, go ahead. Okay. So

00:52:10.150 --> 00:52:17.813
- this next question starts with Dennis. Four years from now, what does it look like for you to be a successful

00:52:17.813 --> 00:52:24.222
- and effective board member or for you to have been a successful and effective board member?

00:52:24.386 --> 00:52:31.531
- four years from now what it will look like? For our school to be so attractive that no one would want

00:52:31.531 --> 00:52:38.745
- to go to an alternative school or a charter school. They want to come to us because we have the finest

00:52:38.745 --> 00:52:46.590
- facilities, we have the finest teachers, we have students who are graduating and going on for successful lives.

00:52:47.618 --> 00:52:53.905
- And we balance our budget. I'm going to watch the budget. It's very important to me. Taxpayers are the

00:52:53.905 --> 00:53:00.071
- ones voting for us. It's a lot of people don't have kids in school anymore. So they wonder, why am I

00:53:00.071 --> 00:53:06.175
- paying taxes? Well, we want to be stewards of the budget and the money, make sure we're spending it

00:53:06.175 --> 00:53:10.814
- correctly and we're not wasting money and we're not raising people's taxes.

00:53:11.042 --> 00:53:20.010
- And our kids, the 300 kids that are going to the charter schools, are coming back to our school. And

00:53:20.010 --> 00:53:29.599
- we want to give them every reason to by having all the teachers, facilities, and extracurricular activities

00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.150
- that make them want to come back to us.

00:53:33.282 --> 00:53:42.812
- four years from now, if I were a board member, what does success look like? I think a school corporation

00:53:42.812 --> 00:53:52.069
- that builds good communication with our community, with our parents, that is open and listening, that

00:53:52.069 --> 00:54:01.054
- is transparent about the direction that they're going in all manners and the gathering feedback on

00:54:01.282 --> 00:54:12.335
- on those directions to make sure that we are headed in a place that our community wants and that keeps

00:54:12.335 --> 00:54:23.388
- kids safe at all levels. I think that we do a really great job with safety right now and I think there

00:54:23.388 --> 00:54:27.358
- is always more things to look at and

00:54:27.490 --> 00:54:35.896
- making sure that that is our highest priorities, that we are communicative and transparent with our

00:54:35.896 --> 00:54:44.554
- community and keeping kids safe. Yeah, the thing that's I think been on my mind in terms of four years

00:54:44.554 --> 00:54:53.296
- from now, what I want to support is I really do like this idea of every student leaving RBB with a plan

00:54:53.296 --> 00:54:56.574
- for the future. I'm not sure if that's

00:54:56.738 --> 00:55:03.148
- measured today, it'd be great if we could measure that. That all this work, starting all the way down

00:55:03.148 --> 00:55:09.558
- in the elementary schools, I mean, they're talking to the kids at the elementary level about careers.

00:55:09.558 --> 00:55:16.031
- I mean, they're talking about teaching them, what do you like to do? Let's try things, see what you're

00:55:16.031 --> 00:55:23.070
- good at. And so that idea of every kid leaving with a plan, whatever that plan may be that is specific to them,

00:55:23.234 --> 00:55:30.217
- I love that idea, and I want to support that. I think there's other things, just like measuring academics,

00:55:30.217 --> 00:55:36.873
- graduation rates. I know they were looking at iLearn scores at the school board meeting last week. So

00:55:36.873 --> 00:55:43.529
- I think there's a lot of data. There's a lot of measurables to look at. And then I think I agree with

00:55:43.529 --> 00:55:49.598
- Dennis around fiscal responsibility. There are like, I think, 38 referendums this next week.

00:55:50.050 --> 00:55:56.918
- school corporations around the state who are trying to make up for the budget losses that they're facing

00:55:56.918 --> 00:56:03.590
- and that's not happening here and I I do think that's because there's been good fiscal responsibility

00:56:03.590 --> 00:56:10.393
- and I know there was you know back in 2018 there was some trouble and it went the wrong way and I think

00:56:10.393 --> 00:56:17.064
- the board and administration have gotten it back on track and I think it's important to keep it there

00:56:17.064 --> 00:56:19.550
- so that's what I would say so kind of

00:56:19.650 --> 00:56:25.624
- Top of my list, you know, I was at a board meeting recently and I'm pretty sure it was the high school

00:56:25.624 --> 00:56:31.831
- and some, you know, a doctor, I believe from IU came in and they were talking about mental health services

00:56:31.831 --> 00:56:37.689
- and counselors and things that it sounds great that they're bringing them in. It sounds perfect, but

00:56:37.689 --> 00:56:43.490
- the numbers, you know, it kind of seemed like it was like, Hey, that's pretty good. But in my mind,

00:56:43.490 --> 00:56:48.478
- I was like that, that many kids are depressed, you know, upset, you know, have, have,

00:56:49.026 --> 00:56:56.031
- I don't know. I just wonder if the environment at school sometimes could be changed to accommodate,

00:56:56.031 --> 00:57:03.457
- be more engaging. Maybe we could help their mental health. Maybe school doesn't have to be such a painful

00:57:03.457 --> 00:57:10.672
- place. Because for a lot of kids, it is. Not everybody comes to school and has a great experience. The

00:57:10.672 --> 00:57:18.238
- student satisfaction piece kind of rolls right into that. And then, you know, yet again, Sped here, I think

00:57:18.914 --> 00:57:24.755
- There'd be a lot of better things going on in SPED. There's a lot of equipment that could be utilized,

00:57:24.755 --> 00:57:30.710
- supplied, had on hand in the classroom. Let them touch it, feel it, see if they like it, see if it works

00:57:30.710 --> 00:57:36.494
- for them. If they don't have it in the classroom, they can't do that. So I think I would do all those

00:57:36.494 --> 00:57:42.279
- things. I feel like that would be an accomplishment in itself. And of course, the financial, physical

00:57:42.279 --> 00:57:47.326
- responsibility is a no-brainer. That has to happen, especially when you're talking about

00:57:47.426 --> 00:57:54.822
- pulling a million dollars out of educational funds and giving it to operational funds. This question

00:57:54.822 --> 00:58:02.292
- goes first to Kelly, and we'll go around the table. So Christa will be second. That's what I meant by

00:58:02.292 --> 00:58:09.834
- around the table. Do you agree with the new cell phone policy, and do you think it is effective in the

00:58:09.834 --> 00:58:14.814
- classroom right now? Are there any improvements that could be made?

00:58:16.962 --> 00:58:29.933
- So- excuse me. So- the cell phone policy is very tied to- the law that was passed at the state- I do

00:58:29.933 --> 00:58:43.160
- appreciate that the school board- allowed students to keep their phones with them- powered off- in and

00:58:43.160 --> 00:58:44.958
- away in their

00:58:45.122 --> 00:58:57.666
- School shootings are something that we all live with in our society, and that's a possibility. In looking

00:58:57.666 --> 00:58:59.678
- at those things,

00:58:59.874 --> 00:59:07.202
- the majority of those have been stopped or ended early because a student had a cell phone and was able

00:59:07.202 --> 00:59:14.388
- to contact somebody. So the fact that students are able to still have their cell phones with them, I

00:59:14.388 --> 00:59:21.717
- think is a really happy way to meet that state law and still allow students to have that device there,

00:59:21.717 --> 00:59:26.270
- that tool there to be able to help them. Okay, I'm out of time.

00:59:30.402 --> 00:59:37.057
- My daughter definitely doesn't agree with it. I heard about that a lot. I'm going to be very interested

00:59:37.057 --> 00:59:43.520
- to see how it works. I feel like in listening to teachers, they're very glad to have the opportunity

00:59:43.520 --> 00:59:50.367
- to have kids focused, and so I'm very interested to see how it works. I do think RBB took a good approach.

00:59:50.367 --> 00:59:56.766
- Some schools are not allowing them to take them to school at all. Can't have them on the bus, and I

00:59:56.766 --> 00:59:59.838
- think RBB tried to strike a nice middle ground.

01:00:00.194 --> 01:00:06.934
- The thing that I worry about is sometimes kids need to get a hold of their parents. And I've got a friend

01:00:06.934 --> 01:00:13.292
- whose son is diabetic and on a monitor, and I know she was very concerned about being able to reach

01:00:13.292 --> 01:00:19.969
- her son. And I know what I heard from the administration was, we're going to be flexible when that needs

01:00:19.969 --> 01:00:25.246
- to happen. And so that's something I think we need to keep an eye on, because if a

01:00:25.538 --> 01:00:31.152
- if a kiddo needs to communicate with a parent and something happens because they didn't then we need

01:00:31.152 --> 01:00:36.710
- to we need to think about being flexible so that that's the one thing that's kind of on my mind and

01:00:36.710 --> 01:00:42.436
- I want to see how it how it plays out. Yeah I'm sure the kids aren't thrilled. I mean yeah electronics

01:00:42.436 --> 01:00:48.216
- can be a problem right. They can get very caught up in them but they also serve a lot of great purposes

01:00:48.216 --> 01:00:53.886
- you know they used to say what 20 years ago you're never gonna have a calculator on you all the time.

01:00:54.370 --> 01:00:59.721
- but everybody in here does right now. But there's lots of other accommodations that could come with

01:00:59.721 --> 01:01:05.340
- a cell phone. A lot of kids might need it for different things. So that obviously needs to be considered

01:01:05.340 --> 01:01:11.013
- and looked at before you just say, no, you can't have it. And then I have talked to a few high schoolers,

01:01:11.013 --> 01:01:16.471
- and they thought it'd be a pretty good idea if the teachers did have their phones out, too. Everybody

01:01:16.471 --> 01:01:18.558
- can be invested in what they're doing.

01:01:22.562 --> 01:01:29.047
- So I like the cell phone policy, but what I'm really interested in is hearing the feedback from the

01:01:29.047 --> 01:01:35.531
- teachers and the students. It's such a new policy that at probably one of the school board meetings

01:01:35.531 --> 01:01:42.016
- coming up, they'll have more of a report on the feedback. And I'm kind of waiting to hear more what

01:01:42.016 --> 01:01:48.501
- they have to say. But overall, I think the policy's good because they do still have the phones, but

01:01:48.501 --> 01:01:51.678
- they're not on. So they're not distracting them.

01:01:51.842 --> 01:01:59.169
- They're following state guidelines. State mandated it. You have to follow it. There are unintended

01:01:59.169 --> 01:02:06.718
- consequences to most new changes and stuff. And I'd like to hear what the unintended consequences are

01:02:06.718 --> 01:02:14.415
- at this point. But I've not heard any yet. Looking at you, Krista. We're going to sit there and go down

01:02:14.415 --> 01:02:21.150
- the table. I think we're getting it now. OK. Don't worry. We'll change it at the very end.

01:02:21.922 --> 01:02:29.226
- What are your thoughts on the growing population in Ellitsville and how that affects facilities, particular

01:02:29.226 --> 01:02:36.124
- classroom size, so the growing population of the town? Yeah, this is a big topic, especially now that

01:02:36.124 --> 01:02:43.090
- we're looking at things like reorganization on the ballot next week. I have had this conversation with

01:02:43.090 --> 01:02:48.094
- Dr. Sanders many, many times because I've been involved in some community

01:02:48.514 --> 01:02:54.997
- initiatives where people have come to me with concerns that they're very worried about growth and can

01:02:54.997 --> 01:03:01.352
- the school accommodate growth. I think the good news is there's a lot of land here that is owned by

01:03:01.352 --> 01:03:07.708
- the school and I think there is room for growth. I think at this point we're okay. But I think, and

01:03:07.708 --> 01:03:14.127
- if you look at enrollment, it's been pretty steady. Even though the town has grown, the enrollment I

01:03:14.127 --> 01:03:16.542
- think has been around 2,600 students.

01:03:16.994 --> 01:03:23.256
- give or take 25 or so for a number of years. So yes, the town is growing, but the school's been pretty

01:03:23.256 --> 01:03:29.336
- steady. So right now I think we're okay, but I think it's something that we have to watch. And I do

01:03:29.336 --> 01:03:35.537
- think a thriving school is important to a thriving community. And so we don't wanna find ourselves in

01:03:35.537 --> 01:03:41.921
- a situation where we can't serve our community. So it's something we're gonna have to continue to watch,

01:03:41.921 --> 01:03:42.590
- I believe.

01:03:46.562 --> 01:03:53.877
- I know there's been a lot of debate about that. I've seen that. I'm not sure I'm gonna go too far into

01:03:53.877 --> 01:04:01.335
- that realm. But I think what I do know is that especially the intermediate school and the primary school

01:04:01.335 --> 01:04:08.508
- are already very near capacity. So I would be curious what the plan is to provide space to have more

01:04:08.508 --> 01:04:13.054
- kids go to those schools. Maybe we do have ground to build more

01:04:14.082 --> 01:04:19.784
- more uh you know facilities it looks like there's a lot of that going on around here but i i would be

01:04:19.784 --> 01:04:25.487
- worried that uh you know what that would look like and you know what the plan is to make sure that we

01:04:25.487 --> 01:04:31.469
- can house all those children so i had some concerns with it 20 years ago when they built in new elementary

01:04:31.469 --> 01:04:37.227
- schools because my daughter was in the first class she was one of them that had the silver shovel that

01:04:37.227 --> 01:04:40.190
- broke the ground for it and i thought is this enough

01:04:40.546 --> 01:04:46.973
- classrooms for our future, and then this area has exploded. It hasn't exploded with children at this

01:04:46.973 --> 01:04:53.400
- point, but I don't think the growth has stopped over here. From what I understand, there's even more

01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:59.763
- housing developments that are planned in the future. My concern has been a lot with the junior high

01:04:59.763 --> 01:05:06.127
- as much as any because of the size. It's more landlocked. It's a little smaller. I was in the first

01:05:06.127 --> 01:05:08.990
- sixth grade class in the junior high, and so

01:05:09.314 --> 01:05:15.312
- It's basically the same size as it was then. And now they are expanding it now. But I have some concerns.

01:05:15.312 --> 01:05:21.197
- But I think we're going to have to take a really hard look at the projected students 10 years, 20 years

01:05:21.197 --> 01:05:26.913
- from now. And this area has grown so much that are we going to be able to accommodate them with what

01:05:26.913 --> 01:05:32.571
- we have? And where are we going to go in the future? One thought I heard, a rumor at one time, they

01:05:32.571 --> 01:05:37.438
- thought about another elementary over more towards Bloomington for our school system.

01:05:37.666 --> 01:05:44.735
- I don't think anything ever happened with it, but it was something that was thought about many years

01:05:44.735 --> 01:05:51.734
- ago even then. I think that we're really lucky to have a growing community. I know there's a lot of

01:05:51.734 --> 01:05:52.574
- communities

01:05:52.738 --> 01:06:01.273
- that and school corporations that are shrinking and losing students and losing students means that we're

01:06:01.273 --> 01:06:09.401
- losing funding and losing funding means that we have to continue to make cuts. So I think a growing

01:06:09.401 --> 01:06:17.774
- population is a positive thing and that that we have found a way that the I say we as in the community

01:06:17.774 --> 01:06:19.806
- but the school board has

01:06:20.002 --> 01:06:27.547
- And school corporation has found a way to accommodate that growing population accommodate all of the

01:06:27.547 --> 01:06:34.494
- families that are moving in welcoming families making this a welcoming place to live and to.

01:06:34.594 --> 01:06:40.768
- have a high standard of education that people want to come here. I know when we moved here 12 years

01:06:40.768 --> 01:06:47.127
- ago we had a choice of where we were going to choose to put our kids in school. This was before Andrew

01:06:47.127 --> 01:06:53.610
- worked in the school corporation and we chose RBB because of the school corporation it is. So it doesn't

01:06:53.610 --> 01:06:59.846
- surprise me that we have a growing population and as we have handled it through the years I think we

01:06:59.846 --> 01:07:02.686
- will continue to be able to handle it. Sorry.

01:07:04.418 --> 01:07:11.668
- Why does my time feel shorter than everybody else's? Okay. This next question kind of connects with

01:07:11.668 --> 01:07:19.135
- the one that we just heard. And we'll go first to Jeremiah. Public school officials say they recognize

01:07:19.135 --> 01:07:26.675
- that school choice is a reality in Indiana. That means it's not enough to offer high quality education.

01:07:26.675 --> 01:07:34.142
- They also have to tell the public about it, which requires resources for marketing and communications.

01:07:34.786 --> 01:07:42.015
- So the thought about school choice and the consequences for RBB. I can understand the consequences,

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- right? The less students, the less funding. I kind of feel like choice is important, though. I mean,

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- you don't know everybody's story. You don't know how the child operates in that facility and

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- that environment. I wouldn't want to be the one to tell them, sorry, you're struggling. You're stuck here.

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- I think choice is important. So, I agree choice is important because we don't have a choice. It's state

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- requires it and money goes with the child and that's okay. There are reasons parents choose to have

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- their children go different places. Lots of reasons. We want to give them reasons to come back to us.

01:08:28.922 --> 01:08:32.094
- We have 300 kids now that aren't here.

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- and a half, three million dollars out of our budget. We want them to want to come here. We don't want

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- to force them to come here. Parents have reasons. They want a smaller classroom. They have all kinds

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- of reasons. They didn't have a good experience at the school, but we want them to come back to us. I

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- think it's just a matter of having the right

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- situation for them. We provide a lot of things that our other schools don't provide. We have more a

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- wider curriculum. We have the extracurriculars at this school are amazing. We have an amazing band.

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- We have amazing show choir. We have amazing clubs. We have amazing the arts that we have everything.

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- Give them a reason to come to me. And we also provide transportation. That's where our competitors

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- And I call them competitors because I'm a business person, but they are competitors. We have that over

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- them because we provide that. Every child in the state of Indiana is allowed and by law gets a free

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- public education, and we will provide the best we can to them because of that.

01:09:45.058 --> 01:09:52.564
- So I'm going to start by saying 60 seconds is not enough for this. I have more information on my campaign

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- website. I have a handout over on the table there if you're interested in reading my thoughts

01:09:59.221 --> 01:10:06.444
- more thoroughly. I believe students and families should have a choice, very much so. I do not believe

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- that public dollars should be going to schools that do not have public accountability. And that's my

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- bottom line there.

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- do think that we have a story to tell. We are competitors with the other schools, the charter schools

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- and the private schools. The problem with being a competitor with those schools is that we don't play

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- by the same rules. We aren't measured in the same way. They don't have to have the same requirements.

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- And it's not the same level playing field. And I think

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- as far as telling the story, we need to tell all of our successes. Yes, absolutely. And we also need

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- to inform them about how these schools are different. And that is an important part. I will go ahead

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- and say, I think Krista would be

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- an amazing person to be on the school board because she is a vice president of marketing and communication,

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- and I think that would be a valuable asset to have on our school board because I think that that is

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- something that we can improve upon. That's not a skill that I have, and I think that it would be a huge

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- asset. I agree with what everyone has said. I don't think there's one educational environment that works

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- for everyone.

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- I do agree with choice, but I think we also have to recognize that the amount of choice that is being

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- given today is fragmenting the dollars. And so we are providing choice, but we aren't providing the

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- funding to cover all those choices. I don't love the thought of public dollars also going to private

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- school tuition through vouchers. And so I think if the state wants to provide choice, okay.

01:11:51.938 --> 01:11:58.400
- then fund everything if that's the way that you want to do it. So that's how I feel about that. Resources

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- for marketing comms. Well, RBB has already been creative about this because the students are doing it.

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- And so if you go over to the innovation lab over here, you're going to see podcasting, video production.

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- There's journalism. My daughter right now is serving as a marketing intern, and they're

01:12:16.578 --> 01:12:24.570
- working to tell the stories of the school and the other students. I think they're doing a great job.

01:12:24.570 --> 01:12:32.561
- It's a great learning experience. But I do think we've got to go broader than our local community to

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- tell the story just for the reasons that I said. Thank you. I have a question. Sorry. Can I ask it from

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- here? Is that OK? OK. OK. Use your outdoor voice. Sure, I will.

01:12:46.082 --> 01:12:55.608
- a brand new educator looking to find a teaching job and I could look for one here at RBB or I could

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- go 15 minutes to the east and make 10 to 30,000 more or 45 minutes to the north and make 10 to 20,000

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- more. What would you say to convince me that it's worth it to be an amazing brand new educator here at RBB?

01:13:17.186 --> 01:13:24.647
- Dennis, you're up next. So I don't know the facts. I don't know how much the other schools are paying.

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- And I don't know if that information is accurate or not accurate. That doesn't matter. What matters

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- is the quality of life in this community, that people live here, the atmosphere. When you have a business,

01:13:39.642 --> 01:13:44.350
- you have a culture. And you want the culture of the school to be

01:13:44.610 --> 01:13:51.383
- in a way that makes people want to be here and want to come here and want to teach here. It's that you

01:13:51.383 --> 01:13:57.959
- have support from your supervisors. You have support from your school board and your community. And

01:13:57.959 --> 01:14:04.534
- you have that. And sometimes, yes, people do go wherever the highest paycheck is. And I don't blame

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- them if they want to do that. But some people want the quality of life. And people work in businesses

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- for long periods of time because of the quality

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- that's in that atmosphere and the culture of that atmosphere. We work as a company, my company, we have

01:14:22.444 --> 01:14:30.237
- people that have been with us 30, 40 years because of our culture, how we help people, how we address

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- issues, and how we address anything that comes up, we're there for them and to support them.

01:14:40.418 --> 01:14:48.015
- So you're a brand new educator, and you can make money other places. If you're a brand new educator,

01:14:48.015 --> 01:14:55.386
- making money other places to pay off your student loans is probably the best financial situation.

01:14:55.386 --> 01:15:02.456
- That said, I've worked in places where I did get paid more, and I didn't have as much support

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- from administration. I didn't have the colleagues that we have here.

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- You're all sitting here listening to two people run for each seat. How lucky are we in this community

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- that we have multiple people who want to serve on the school board? That's amazing. People here care

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- about education. They care about our educators. They care about our students. I've been in places where

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- the number one priority is athletics. And while we care about athletics, it's not the number one priority.

01:15:32.257 --> 01:15:36.510
- Kids are our number one priority, and you're going to be supported in that.

01:15:38.850 --> 01:15:44.831
- So funny she started where I was gonna start was my first question would be do you have loans? Because

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- I I've been there and you know got to make a living So really you're talking about recruitment, right?

01:15:50.811 --> 01:15:56.850
- How do we recruit the best? Educators to RBB and I think I would hope that it's some of the same things

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- that I'm hearing. I don't know that for sure right now I don't know how they recruit teachers, but I

01:16:02.715 --> 01:16:03.934
- would hope that it's

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- It's a great community to live in. There's a great culture here at the school. I would also hope that

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- you can grow and develop here. That you can do new things and that you're always challenged and that

01:16:17.576 --> 01:16:24.297
- your salary does grow as you grow as an individual. That would be my hope for you in coming here and

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- I would hope that you would know that you would be deeply appreciated. We should be able to make more

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- here. I think that

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- All the teachers should make a lot more. I couldn't, in my mind, think of a more important job that

01:16:40.054 --> 01:16:47.895
- anybody could have. So I don't really get why. I've asked for financial documentation from the district

01:16:47.895 --> 01:16:55.511
- via an APRA request, and I never got it. So I couldn't really dig into the whole story and where the

01:16:55.511 --> 01:17:00.638
- money goes and why we can't pay teachers more. Athletics are great.

01:17:02.146 --> 01:17:08.441
- very nice looking fields out there. Sometimes you've got to think about where you spend your money and

01:17:08.441 --> 01:17:14.614
- is it the best use of the money? I'm not saying it's not great for those fields to be out there, but

01:17:14.614 --> 01:17:20.971
- I bet there's probably some funds that would have been freed up if it wouldn't have been spent on that.

01:17:20.971 --> 01:17:27.266
- Thank you. That is about as much time as we have. We wanted to ask our panelists to give their closing

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- statements so they each have one, and we're going to go.

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- That direction starting with Kelly and move down the line to Krista at the last. So one minute for your

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- closing statement. I just again want to thank everybody for coming tonight. I really appreciate it.

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- appreciate that we all of my fellow people who are running for coming and for sharing their thoughts.

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- I don't think you necessarily have an easy choice. I'm really excited that again we have multiple people.

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- I'm glad as a voter myself that we have multiple people that we get to choose to be on our school board

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- and that want to serve on our school board. There are in the Bloomington schools

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- One person running, they are uncontested for all of their seats. There is no choice for the public on

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- who serves there. So thank you all for coming tonight and for listening to us, for asking your questions.

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- And good luck with your voting. So what I want to say is I love this school. I went to school here.

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- Everybody in my family went to school here.

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- I love this school. I've worked here and volunteered since I've been out of school. I love this town.

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- I've never lived anywhere but this area my entire life, and I've never had any dreams of going anywhere

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- else. I think a school is the center of a community this size. It's what

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- how we're labeled while people know Ellsville because of Edgewood and because of our school systems.

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- I want to do everything I can to help with my experience, bring that to the board to help the school

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- continue to thrive and go into the future, far into the future. So thank you all for being here and

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- that's about all. I do want to thank you all for coming. I appreciate it.

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- Good luck voting and I'm gonna actually opt for the remaining time I have to be in silence to advocate

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- for all the nonverbal students that go to this school district.

01:20:32.130 --> 01:20:38.530
- It's hard to follow. Yes, I appreciate everyone asking questions. I've seen people, Dennis and I were

01:20:38.530 --> 01:20:45.180
- talking before that I've seen people saying, hey, I don't know where people stand on issues. So sometimes

01:20:45.180 --> 01:20:51.454
- it's hard to know what's specific on people's minds. So it's very helpful that you are here tonight

01:20:51.454 --> 01:20:57.979
- and that you ask questions. So I do appreciate that. The more I learn about this, the more I am excited

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- about the possibility.

01:20:59.554 --> 01:21:06.918
- of serving on school board. I agree nothing's perfect, and I think there are a lot of challenges. At

01:21:06.918 --> 01:21:14.792
- the same time, every school board meeting that I've gone to over the past few months, I've heard incredible

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- stories about teachers, about educators, and about outcomes with kids. And to be able to impact something

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- like that is something that I'm excited about. If it doesn't happen and I don't get the seat,

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- I think everyone up here cares about the school and cares about education. So I don't think we'll lose

01:21:37.005 --> 01:21:44.544
- as a community. And I do agree that this community thrives when the school thrives. And we have so much

01:21:44.544 --> 01:21:51.865
- pride in this school. So I just want the best for it. So thank you. I have a couple of things to say

01:21:51.865 --> 01:21:58.462
- to conclude. So on behalf of the League of Women Voters, we're pleased to have this forum.

01:21:58.626 --> 01:22:05.721
- We have an online voter guide, and there's a bookmark in the back that you can pick up. It's vote411.org.

01:22:05.721 --> 01:22:12.482
- The League of Women Voters asks every candidate for a specific office the same set of questions, and

01:22:12.482 --> 01:22:19.443
- then you can compare their answers. So it's an online voter guide. And that is back there. There's also

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- a reminder that early voting has started. It continues until noon on Monday, November 2nd.

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- and then election day is Tuesday, November 3rd. So I hope that you will all take the opportunity to

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- exercise your voice and vote. Want to thank Katz very much for recording this important forum and it

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- will be shared soon with your friends and colleagues who will also be facing these tough decisions because

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- what a fantastic group of candidates. Please join me in thanking them for a wonderful presentation.
