WEBVTT 00:00:01.410 --> 00:00:10.655 - We will call to order this evening's budget adoption meeting on whatever today is, sorry, the 19th of 00:00:10.655 --> 00:00:19.900 - October. Do the prayer. Heavenly Father, please grant us the wisdom and humility to be able to do the 00:00:19.900 --> 00:00:28.964 - wish of the taxpayers for their betterment, even if sometimes they don't quite know what they want, 00:00:28.964 --> 00:00:31.230 - but give us the guidance 00:00:31.458 --> 00:00:39.412 - and the discernment to know, to make those decisions for the best of them more than anything. And please 00:00:39.412 --> 00:00:47.214 - best bless this small town and make sure that small town feel never changes because that's what brings 00:00:47.214 --> 00:00:54.864 - people here. In your name, amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and 00:00:54.864 --> 00:01:00.318 - to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, 00:01:00.450 --> 00:01:11.720 - with liberty and justice for all. Roll call, please, whenever you're ready. Scott Oldham. Here. Pamela 00:01:11.720 --> 00:01:22.880 - Samples. Here. Trevor Sager. Here. Dan Swafford. William Ellis. Here. OK, the only item on the agenda 00:01:22.880 --> 00:01:30.430 - for this evening is the budget adoption of the 2027 proposed budget. 00:01:31.202 --> 00:01:39.125 - You have comments, Mr. Town Manager? Just that we had a full presentation at the last meeting. I think 00:01:39.125 --> 00:01:46.971 - tonight Noel's gonna do a synopsis of... It's at the council's pleasure. We have Paige Sansone online 00:01:46.971 --> 00:01:54.817 - as well. So we can answer any questions. How do you wanna proceed? That's fine. We'll just do a brief 00:01:54.817 --> 00:01:57.278 - recap. I will share the screen. 00:02:01.122 --> 00:02:08.009 - This is just a synopsis, correct? Correct. The only thing I wanted to bring to the attention of the 00:02:08.009 --> 00:02:15.585 - public was this is the exact same proposed budget that was brought before the council during the pre-adoption 00:02:15.585 --> 00:02:22.609 - hearing. There have been no changes at all to the overall budget or any appropriations. The one thing 00:02:22.609 --> 00:02:28.670 - that was asked at the last council meeting was that we include three additional slides. 00:02:30.242 --> 00:02:39.242 - to give the general public what a 2000 home year one added tax comparison would be. Councilman Ellis 00:02:39.242 --> 00:02:48.153 - prepared these numbers. So any questions I would direct to him, but it shows the comparison between 00:02:48.153 --> 00:02:57.598 - Richland Township and the town of Ellisville for reorganization, yes vote or no fire protection, no vote. 00:02:58.530 --> 00:03:10.545 - and I can show the $200,000 home. We have a $245,000 home and a $300,000 home. Because they start hitting 00:03:10.545 --> 00:03:22.107 - the tax cap, correct? Correct, sir. And full disclosure, I did have help. I had Brandon check my work 00:03:22.107 --> 00:03:27.774 - and make sure that we had some back and forth and 00:03:29.378 --> 00:03:39.584 - We're good. So even its most extreme, we're looking at $20 difference between the two. And the assumptions, 00:03:39.584 --> 00:03:49.129 - sir, are listed on the slides that are on the website as well. I would say the difference is more of 00:03:49.129 --> 00:03:57.918 - the long-term math that with any decent growth based on historical standards, there's no way 00:03:59.010 --> 00:04:06.531 - no, it's going to outpace the tax increases, then yes. So no, it's always going to be a higher trajectory 00:04:06.531 --> 00:04:13.697 - than yes, because of the fire territory, because we have a larger base to spread that tax base over. 00:04:13.697 --> 00:04:20.864 - And then because with any new construction in the former township or the rural area, that'll flip to 00:04:20.864 --> 00:04:23.134 - urban and lower that for us. So 00:04:27.842 --> 00:04:35.088 - slide you want to call anyone's attention to you want to go through more we could go through all of 00:04:35.088 --> 00:04:42.624 - them if you prefer absolutely just so everybody's fully informed so on this slide we have the full 2027 00:04:42.624 --> 00:04:50.015 - let me just pull it down 2027 proposed budget it lists all of the funds I did want to highlight again 00:04:50.015 --> 00:04:51.102 - for the public 00:04:51.202 --> 00:04:58.778 - that the police and fire do not begin with a Estimated beginning balance because we pulled some of the 00:04:58.778 --> 00:05:06.647 - levy from general to create those two municipal funds So you will see that there will be an ending balance 00:05:06.647 --> 00:05:14.076 - that is negative and that's primarily because of the beginning balance not being established This is 00:05:14.076 --> 00:05:20.254 - the municipal fire so this will be the structure of the fire budget that happens if 00:05:20.386 --> 00:05:26.500 - Reorganization is to take effect. And so that total is the four million two hundred forty two thousand 00:05:26.500 --> 00:05:32.615 - four hundred and fifty five dollars and This shows all of the different funding sources where it would 00:05:32.615 --> 00:05:38.908 - come from. So we have the local safety income tax the municipal fire Cume fire special cumulative capital 00:05:38.908 --> 00:05:45.022 - development and the local economic development, which is our other lit fund and then this would be the 00:05:45.410 --> 00:05:54.139 - special fire protection territory. And this would be the fund that the amount would be $4,168,425. And 00:05:54.139 --> 00:06:02.698 - it shows the general fund and then the fire special protection territory equipment replacement fund. 00:06:02.698 --> 00:06:10.494 - So for the police department. Yes, sir. This one here is special fire protection territory. 00:06:10.946 --> 00:06:21.629 - Only takes effect if reorganize. Yes, sir. I forgot that so if the no vote happens on November the third 00:06:21.629 --> 00:06:32.210 - This is the budget that will take effect for the fire special fire protection territory And at the last 00:06:32.210 --> 00:06:40.350 - council meeting resolution 26-2025 It's 25-2026. Excuse me the council passed a 00:06:40.706 --> 00:06:49.362 - to allow the DLGF and or myself and to make those changes to the budget. So reductions will happen. 00:06:49.362 --> 00:06:58.191 - For the police department, we have the local safety income tax, the police municipal fund, cumulative 00:06:58.191 --> 00:07:05.982 - capital development, and again, our local development income tax, which is our other lit. 00:07:07.298 --> 00:07:17.348 - is $3,032,670. For our township assistance, that total is $530,000, with township assistance being its 00:07:17.348 --> 00:07:27.105 - own fund, and $80,000 coming out of the local income tax economic development. And again, that only 00:07:27.105 --> 00:07:36.862 - goes into place with a yes vote, correct? Correct. So I did want to make that distinction that when 00:07:37.218 --> 00:07:44.670 - We know on november 3rd what is going to happen our levy For our estimated civil max levy is three million 00:07:44.670 --> 00:07:51.773 - one hundred sixteen thousand four hundred and seventy nine dollars With the budgets the way that they 00:07:51.773 --> 00:07:59.085 - currently are We will have to pull out several hundred thousand dollars roughly Give or take about eight 00:07:59.085 --> 00:08:04.030 - hundred thousand. This would be one of those funds that would come out 00:08:06.754 --> 00:08:14.682 - And in the administrative budget, there was increases put in for additional personnel and planning, 00:08:14.682 --> 00:08:22.688 - there was increases put in for additional personnel. So those would also be coming out of the budget 00:08:22.688 --> 00:08:30.775 - should reorganization not pass. So here we are talking about the general budget right here. So in the 00:08:30.775 --> 00:08:33.470 - admin side on general is 683,460. 00:08:33.666 --> 00:08:40.976 - cumulative capital development is 45,000, and then the economic development income tax for 355 for a 00:08:40.976 --> 00:08:48.214 - total of $1,083,460. So again, there would be significant reductions in this budget. The cumulative 00:08:48.214 --> 00:08:55.524 - capital development, is that what the town's portion is for the Department of Public Works building? 00:08:55.524 --> 00:09:02.110 - No, so out of the cumulative capital development for the admin, we have currently in there 00:09:02.818 --> 00:09:10.909 - under computer services for me is our IT vendor that we currently contract with. So that covers the 00:09:10.909 --> 00:09:19.162 - utilities building and all of town hall. I believe he's worked a little bit with police. I'm not 100% 00:09:19.162 --> 00:09:23.774 - sure, but it's for that contract. That's the bulk of it. 00:09:24.418 --> 00:09:31.517 - And then also if you remember at the last meeting in that cumulative capital development I also carry 00:09:31.517 --> 00:09:38.754 - the planning vehicle and the planning computer and supplies now in that amount of 45,000 No, it's their 00:09:38.754 --> 00:09:41.886 - current vehicle. Okay have thought when gate 00:09:42.018 --> 00:09:47.593 - Right when gateway redid the budget 2.0 the new platform There wasn't a mechanism to put planning in 00:09:47.593 --> 00:09:53.224 - the cumulative capital development for whatever reason it just had admin So rather than trying to get 00:09:53.224 --> 00:09:58.854 - them to fix that Which I didn't know how long that would take we just made that and then I have it on 00:09:58.854 --> 00:10:04.705 - here at the bottom of the slide That the planning vehicle and the planning computer and software included 00:10:04.705 --> 00:10:09.342 - in the admin budget but remain in that department for spending appropriations, okay 00:10:11.842 --> 00:10:20.108 - So next we have the planning and zoning and that total is $589,159 and that is all funded out of revenues 00:10:20.108 --> 00:10:28.374 - from general. And then we have the department public works which is funded through local road and street, 00:10:28.374 --> 00:10:36.951 - NVH, cumulative capital improvement, cumulative capital development. The municipal wheel tax we intentionally 00:10:36.951 --> 00:10:41.630 - left at zero to establish that fund to be allowed to build. 00:10:41.730 --> 00:10:48.387 - And then we have the municipal surtax as well in there And just for clarity, even though we have motor 00:10:48.387 --> 00:10:54.980 - vehicle highway one-line MVH restrict stands for the same thing Yes, so for purposes of putting it on 00:10:54.980 --> 00:11:01.767 - the gateway, you will see them listed together but it's always better to break it out so that the public 00:11:01.767 --> 00:11:04.158 - can see those numbers separately and 00:11:07.362 --> 00:11:14.659 - Parks and Recreation the total for this fund is one hundred twelve thousand four hundred dollars and 00:11:14.659 --> 00:11:21.885 - For transparency we wanted to pull out these other funds the building and construction related fees 00:11:21.885 --> 00:11:29.182 - is a new fund that is a result of a house enrolled act that the legislation passed so we have to put 00:11:29.730 --> 00:11:35.703 - Estimated revenues in there. So on that first slide, that's going to be one of the funds also that doesn't 00:11:35.703 --> 00:11:41.509 - have a beginning balance So the ending balance is going to be showing in the negative just because it's 00:11:41.509 --> 00:11:47.259 - a newly established fund It's a highly restricted fund as well. You can only use it for various things 00:11:47.259 --> 00:11:53.344 - relating to the permit and construction process through planning and we also have law enforcement continuing 00:11:53.344 --> 00:11:56.414 - education and we wanted to show the budgets that we're 00:11:56.546 --> 00:12:03.159 - Proposing for opiate opioid unrestricted and restricted as well since we do use those with public safety 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:09.458 - for various projects How many more years do we have those? Do you know? Okay, so it keeps changing. 00:12:09.458 --> 00:12:16.260 - We've gotten a lot of Things from the Attorney General several of the companies have actually gone bankrupt 00:12:16.260 --> 00:12:22.559 - right that forces Consolidation of funds and so we've gotten some money ahead of time Supposedly it 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.574 - was supposed to go for 20 years 00:12:24.706 --> 00:12:31.907 - I don't know exactly to be honest with you how long it'll last I feel like certain companies are finding 00:12:31.907 --> 00:12:38.971 - ways around getting around these payments, honestly And then this is the debt service funds so and the 00:12:38.971 --> 00:12:45.898 - lease rental payment and I think that that's where you were asking about the DPW building so that is 00:12:45.898 --> 00:12:53.854 - the sewer has a bond and then the general obligation bond will be paid out of this out of the debt service line and 00:12:56.610 --> 00:13:05.426 - And this brings us back to the last slide that just goes over the budget review again. And if the council 00:13:05.426 --> 00:13:14.076 - has any questions, Paige Sansone from Baker Tilley is online. And any specific appropriation questions, 00:13:14.076 --> 00:13:22.642 - I would direct to the department head because they would have a better answer than what I could muster 00:13:22.642 --> 00:13:25.886 - up, I'm sure. Okay, thank you so much. 00:13:26.594 --> 00:13:39.774 - questions from council. Any questions or comments from the department heads and or town manager. 00:13:40.642 --> 00:13:47.870 - Throughout the years I've been involved in the budget. I always thought it was cumbersome and complicated 00:13:47.870 --> 00:13:54.894 - and now all the other budgets we've ever done was nothing in comparison to what we had to do this year 00:13:54.894 --> 00:14:01.917 - where we had to have two budgets. Thank goodness that we have Baker Tilly and Paige and Brandon helped 00:14:01.917 --> 00:14:05.054 - us immensely. Noelle's done a crazy good job. 00:14:05.474 --> 00:14:14.829 - Taking care of it this year, and I can't believe she can remember everything she does and so I really 00:14:14.829 --> 00:14:24.093 - appreciate that Okay Darla, where do we proceed from here because this is not the hearings that said 00:14:24.093 --> 00:14:30.238 - is there a motion from council concerning the proposed 2027 budget 00:14:33.890 --> 00:14:42.249 - This is not a hearing that was the last week, that's why Sir When we got here, I told you this was the 00:14:42.249 --> 00:14:50.445 - heat this was not the hearing that was last night This is just the meeting to adopt the budget So if 00:14:50.445 --> 00:14:58.641 - council chooses we can have public comment very limited however, traditionally we have not Yeah, any 00:14:58.641 --> 00:15:02.942 - problems with comments I do not your problems become 00:15:03.810 --> 00:15:17.837 - Go ahead. Okay, very quickly. Two minutes? Jim Perry, last week, we had some information presented at 00:15:17.837 --> 00:15:31.727 - the end of the hearing that I have some questions about. One is, do we have speed monitoring devices 00:15:31.727 --> 00:15:33.790 - in the budget? 00:15:35.554 --> 00:15:43.137 - because it's been about three years since we sent the last speed monitoring device to Illinois, and 00:15:43.137 --> 00:15:50.795 - it hasn't been heard from since. And that's my question, which couldn't be answered last week. Do we 00:15:50.795 --> 00:15:58.605 - have speed monitoring devices in the budget? Because when I raised this question months ago, I believe 00:15:58.605 --> 00:16:05.278 - the Council indicated a preference for including such monitoring devices in the budget. 00:16:05.762 --> 00:16:12.792 - Line item for that we have to go by line items know whether it's included in their proposed purchases 00:16:12.792 --> 00:16:19.822 - that I don't know So if anybody wants to speak to that very quickly We actually said last week we had 00:16:19.822 --> 00:16:26.782 - a request for two in a grant But the question is whether the grant is tantamount to the budget it is 00:16:26.782 --> 00:16:33.950 - outside the budget Right and and the question is what's the commitment of the council? to speed control 00:16:35.330 --> 00:16:46.545 - to an issue that I raised months ago. And I heard some receptivity to that, but I haven't seen action, 00:16:46.545 --> 00:16:57.432 - which I think is more important than words. How much does one of those costs? Approximately I'm not 00:16:57.432 --> 00:17:05.054 - gonna. I believe they are. 1314 thousand I believe, but that that's a 00:17:05.378 --> 00:17:12.619 - we're also asking questions for a new council will have to approve that on a twenty seven budget not 00:17:12.619 --> 00:17:20.362 - the city council. So we're we're getting the budget out there and they would have to approve the purchases. 00:17:20.362 --> 00:17:27.675 - Should that become part of we we have we have the equipment and we said that George can speak to this 00:17:27.675 --> 00:17:34.558 - I believe okay we we've sent it to Illinois and hasn't returned that was about three years ago. 00:17:35.202 --> 00:17:44.488 - George. It was not fixable, not within the range of money that we had set aside for it. And they claimed 00:17:44.488 --> 00:17:53.775 - they couldn't fix it. The question was the council's commitment to. So we're not going to get into that. 00:17:53.775 --> 00:18:03.238 - You have one minute remaining. You've put your comment forward. This is not a question. My second question 00:18:03.238 --> 00:18:04.830 - is related to the 00:18:04.962 --> 00:18:13.145 - to the other equipment we purchased last week, which is the count and speed machines that Public Works, 00:18:13.145 --> 00:18:21.092 - I think. Can we make that information public? I'm not sure what you mean by that, but... Well, count 00:18:21.092 --> 00:18:29.197 - is a count. If we have 1,000 cars going down Abigail Lane at 40 miles an hour per day, and we get that 00:18:29.197 --> 00:18:33.918 - information, can we share that information with the public? 00:18:34.178 --> 00:18:42.180 - That's important information. People want to know. I will share that with the Council whenever I get 00:18:42.180 --> 00:18:50.656 - the equipment in. Right now, I'm trying to do the right thing to do, and I'm trying to get the procurement 00:18:50.656 --> 00:18:58.579 - process going, because a lot of these machines that I'm looking at are not within the... what's the 00:18:58.579 --> 00:19:03.966 - thing that I always buy the equipment under? It's out of Minnesota. 00:19:04.194 --> 00:19:11.071 - Source well a lot of this stuff's not in source. Well, so I've got to do the procurement process so 00:19:11.071 --> 00:19:15.678 - I'm trying to get apples to apples and it's kind of hard to do and 00:19:15.778 --> 00:19:22.920 - I'm working on that. I do have the money in my budget to purchase this It's not something I got to ask 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:30.339 - the council for any extra. I do have it here mark Share the information with the public When it's provided 00:19:30.339 --> 00:19:37.064 - to council becomes a public document, so yes, absolutely So so that's a yes that yes. Yes. Okay. 00:19:37.064 --> 00:19:41.502 - All right. Thank you for your comments. So your time is up Okay 00:19:43.746 --> 00:19:55.370 - we've allowed one are there anyone else with public comments. Seeing none we're now back to the council. 00:19:55.370 --> 00:20:06.662 - There was no one online. Back to the council for more I'll make a motion to approve the twenty twenty 00:20:06.662 --> 00:20:12.862 - seven. Budget. Motion second broken please. Yes samples 00:20:15.170 --> 00:20:22.108 - Motion passes. All right, is there anything else for this council for this evening? Just briefly, just 00:20:22.108 --> 00:20:28.844 - since this is an unusual budget year, he's saying so. Do you need anything else? Should we be doing 00:20:28.844 --> 00:20:35.714 - anything else right now? No, we just need to have the budget for four, which is the ordinance signed, 00:20:35.714 --> 00:20:40.766 - and then we can assist Noel with uploading that to Gateway. OK, thank you. 00:20:41.506 --> 00:20:48.345 - My one question, do we need to reaffirm one or the other budget after the vote on November 3rd? Well, 00:20:48.345 --> 00:20:55.318 - that's the purpose of the resolution that gives Noel authority. Right, I just know if we needed to have 00:20:55.318 --> 00:21:02.224 - that come back to us again to affirm it one way or another. I don't know that it hurts to reaffirm it. 00:21:02.224 --> 00:21:07.454 - That way the public's clear on which budget we're following. Sure. All right. 00:21:07.682 --> 00:21:15.933 - Yeah, that's the public no version a version B which one we're actually rolling with here Okay, one 00:21:15.933 --> 00:21:24.350 - last time around the horn anyone with anything further counsel See no further business were adjourned