- We'll call to order the meeting of the Ellsville Plan Commission for Thursday, June 5th, 2025.
- Steve, would you listen to the Pledge of Allegiance?
- I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which
- it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
- Roll call, please. Here.
- First item on our agenda is approval of the minutes for our April 3rd meeting.
- We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
- Monthly conflict of interest statement. Does anyone have a conflict of interest?
- Primarily financial with any of the items on our agenda tonight.
- We have nothing under old business. Two items under new business. First is petition for primary
- plot approval for two lots, 30 acres, and the short two lot subdivision, 4444 North Triple Crown
- Drive, petitioner is Chuck Short, case number PC25-13. Denise. I apologize that I can't share
- any of the documents on the screen with you. We have some new requirements on Zoom and
- I figured I'd have operator difficulty. So first up tonight is a petition for primary
- plat approval from Chuck Short. It's for the approval of the short two lot subdivision,
- which is a minor subdivision. Subject property is located at 4444 North Triple Crown Drive.
- Applicant is requesting preliminary plat approval consisting of two single family lots totaling 30
- acres. Lots are zoned AG Agricultural District. Subdivision will be accessed by North Triple Crown
- Drive. New infrastructure will be constructed to town requirements. The only item to be
- considered is the primary plat. Further subdivision of the parcels will require engineering and a
- return to the plan commission for approval. As I stated, this petition is about the
- primary plat. The plan commission's action on a primary plat can be in the form of approval,
- approval with conditions, denial, or to continue the hearing. The plan commission has the final
- say in these matters. It is of staff opinion that the proposed plat will meet all required zoning
- and subdivision regulations. There are no significant concerns with the proposed primary plat.
- This section is accessible from 4444 North Triple Crown Drive and will continue to spur
- development in that area. Therefore, staff recommends that the plan commission approve
- the primary plat for the short two lot subdivision. And petitioner is here if you have any
- questions.
- Does anyone have any questions from the commission for Denise?
- We'll be on the back side of Charlestown Manor and is a new subdivision.
- It'll be called the short two lot subdivision. This particular
- petition is merely dividing the 30 acre lot into two lots.
- So one lot will be the personal residence of the developers. I understand it. And the other
- will be subject to development at some point.
- Okay. Does anybody have any questions about this particular part?
- I'm sorry. The access right there is in the cul-de-sac. Is that correct? And
- this little lot here or is that an easement? That lot was part of it was given up for the
- drive into that 30 acres. So is it just an easement or is it part of the parcel?
- I don't remember. Did we do an easement for that? I thought we did. Yes.
- Okay. Would the petitioner like to present anything?
- Uh, my name is AJ Willis. The petitioner was unable to make it tonight, so I'm his representative.
- So we're splitting into two lots, 11.4 acres and 18.56 acres. The petitioner's personal property
- will be the 11.44 acres and he actually owns lot 53 in Charlestown Manor where we did record an
- ingress ingress and utility easement through lot 53 to give him access to his new residential
- structure. Denise mentioned that there's possible plans for future development for lot one.
- We have nothing set in stone or no real plan at all right now, but at some point that will most
- likely be developed, but just nothing on paper right now. If you have any questions, we're happy
- to answer. So you're just cutting up lot two for the developers and then lot one will be the
- developers. Yep, yeah, lot one will remain vacant until he comes back for planning commission.
- Anything else? Will lot two cut into lot one too or are you going to, will that just be a
- completely
- separate, once you start developing that, are they still going to be using this road or just the
- owner
- will be using that road in the cul-de-sac? My understanding will just be the owner.
- I don't know, I don't think, I don't think it's possible to get there. I don't know for sure,
- but I don't think that's his intent at all. I think it's just from Charlestown way for that lot one.
- So separate question, but do we have any update from the road county storm people on the other
- entrance? Oh, AJ gave me one the other day, I'll let him tell you. Yeah, so we've been working,
- we're actually working on that road connection. So the last submission that we had to the county,
- the heck grass files were I guess corrupted when we submitted, so we had to resubmit the geometry
- files. The county is actually going to be replacing two inlets in the county roadway.
- And then the developer is going to be responsible for the road connection and another storm pipe.
- The county is in process of getting their scheduling put together to start their storm work.
- So at this point, we're kind of the approvals imminent. It's just we had to resubmit those
- geometry files for our modeling. Does anybody else from the commission have any questions for AJ?
- Seeing none, we will now open the floor for public comment. We allow three minutes per speaker.
- We will start out with the people present in the room. If you'll come up and
- sign in and tell us your name.
- Nice to meet everybody. Can you hear me okay? So my name is Will Layman. I live at 4635 North
- Triple Crown Drive. Owner of that property. I live there with my family, my wife and three small
- kids.
- So our property backs up into this 30-acre lot. I know we just sent in some materials giving an
- overview of our situation and concerns with this project and just wanted to show up today to
- provide
- a little bit more color to what we put in that letter. So again showing up here on behalf of not
- only my family but also several other concerned neighbors in the neighborhood with concerns around
- this project and we would ask that either either denial or at least continue in this case until we
- can make sure that the applicant meets your all standards. So as we documented in the letter one
- of the concerns is around drainage and flooding. So my family we love being outdoors. We've
- invested
- over a hundred thousand dollars into our backyard and we already have flooding issues. I know I
- just
- attached some pictures from today where we had a heavy heavy rain. So our concern is I get at this
- point the one lot is TBD. At some stage there will be some development but as you can see with the
- flooding that we already have we have you know concerns that the appropriate drainage studies
- are done and advanced to protect our investment. Another bullet that I called out in my letter is
- protecting our property value. So there are many high value homes in that that neighborhood. We
- have
- a nice beautiful natural view today and concerns around whatever that development looks like down
- the road could impact our property value. I think it was just being discussed also traffic and
- safety.
- I know there are future plans for ingress egress but still as it exists today there's only one
- one way of egress from from the neighborhood. And then lastly of concern is just some of the
- that the applicant's track record items the development period for this project was extended
- unilaterally without approval by the neighborhood which did contradict the amendment language in
- the
- in the covenants. So as we think about future state items like what this development will turn into
- I think there's also general concern amongst many of the homeowners in the neighborhood.
- So all of this is why again coming here just adding a little bit more color to to my letter
- asking that we deny this this plot as incomplete or at a minimum continue it and require that the
- appropriate drainage study traffic impact study and a tree buffer is is provided. Thank you all
- for your time. Would you believe that we had people come up and say basically the same
- things when they built your neighborhood? Okay so you're kind of putting the cart before the horse
- here. It's this proposal has met the town's conditions. They don't have to meet all the
- other conditions until they actually come back for a plan approval. All they're doing right now is
- dividing one really big lot into two and that's it. The drainage studies and all those other things
- come later when they come before us wanting to actually present an actual plan for development.
- Okay so do we have anyone from the online version who wants to comment? I have no idea.
- They aren't raising their hand. That was the new requirement that we put on that they'll have to
- raise that yellow hand and they aren't raising it. Okay and no one's raising a hand. Okay
- so would now we have to give the petitioner
- three minutes to rebut anything that they would like to rebut from public comment?
- Okay having said that do we do the planning commissioners have any further comments or
- questions? Okay well I will just reiterate what I just said which is
- we're not ready for this part where we go into all the drainage studies and things
- so I would recommend that we approve this. Would someone like to make a motion?
- In that case I will make a motion that we approve case number PC 25-13.
- We have a motion and second. Roll call please. David Drake? Yes. Dan Swofford? Yes. Steve Hale?
- Yes. Pat Wesolowski? Yes. Brian Skaggs? Yes. Pamela Samples? Yes. Thank you. Okay the next item
- our agenda is related to the first one. This is requesting a rezone from agricultural to
- residential for the 30 acres. Denise? This is also petitioned by Chuck Short to rezone the two lots
- you just passed in a subdivision consisting of 30 acres from AG Agricultural District to our one
- single-family residential. Parcels are located at 4444 North Triple Crown Drive. One of the
- properties
- will be used as single-family residential at this time and the other is vacant. The Evansville
- comprehensive plan adopted on July 24, 2023 designates the land used to be residential
- which is permitted. The only item to be considered is the zoning map amendment from agricultural to
- single-family residential. When the petitioner is ready to develop lot one, they will have to
- return
- to the plan commission for further approval. Analysis of the required findings are as follow.
- One's the comp plan. Ellsville land use map in 2023 designates location the parcel has mixed use
- commercial with residential being a permitted use. Number two, current conditions. Residential
- one zoning is recommended because of use and surrounding zoning districts and uses. Three,
- use of the property does result in allowance of the most desirable use of the property.
- Designation of residential one zoning aligns with the use of the land. Four, conservation of
- property
- values will not be affected in a substantially adverse manner. The rezoning of the property
- to residential one single family residential should have no effect on neighboring properties.
- In fact, the neighboring property of Charlestown Manor to the east is zoned R3 which is multifamily.
- Number five, responsible development does promote the responsible development of the growth in the
- county even though repeated it twice. The use of the property of single family residential
- and the zoning map amendment aligns with the use of the property. The plan commission action
- shall be in the form of favorable, unfavorable, or no recommendation to town council which takes
- final action on the zoning map amendment petition. As I stated earlier, the only item to be
- considered
- is the zoning map amendment from agricultural to single family residential. Zoning residential one
- is well covered in the Ellisville comprehensive plan as this area of Ellisville is designated
- to accommodate the use of the property in line with the development or the requirements of the
- unified development ordinance. Therefore, staff recommends a favorable recommendation be forwarded
- to town council to amend the zoning for the parcels from AG an agricultural district to R1
- single family residential and then course petitioners here if you have any questions.
- Okay, would you like to say anything else?
- So I mean I would point out that the town has really no use for agricultural land that when we
- annexed this area it was always intended to be residential. Yes.
- And I guess that's about it. Does anybody have any questions for Denise or comments?
- And once again we're not at the development stage for any of this.
- We are just rezoning it to allow residential from agricultural.
- No comments Dan? I mean you're just pretty simple.
- Okay in that case we're open for public comment again.
- You get three more minutes if you want three more minutes. Okay. Is anybody from the public rate?
- Okay I can't tell what that little thing down there is. Okay.
- The yellow hand will actually be at their name when it pops up.
- So for you keep an eye on this and when they come back for a development plan
- that's when we address all these other issues. Okay if there's no more comments then I will
- make a motion that we approve or recommend case number PC 25-14 to the town council with a
- favorable recommendation. Roll call please. David Drake? Yes. Dan Swaffer? Yes. Steve Hale? Yes.
- Pat Wesolowski? Yes. Ryan Skaggs? Yes. Pamela Samples? Yes. Thank you. Motion carries. Planning
- department update.
- Next meeting will be July 10th when first Thursday the week of July 4th we always move it to the
- second week and I will have new business for you.
- Okay. You will or will not? I will.
- Privilege of the floor is there anyone in the public who would like to address
- us on anything that wasn't on our agenda?
- Are there any planning department or any planning commission comments? Seeing none we will be
- adjourned.
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