WEBVTT 00:00:02.594 --> 00:00:10.970 - I'll call to order the meeting of the Ellisville Planning Commission for July 9th, 2026. The first item 00:00:10.970 --> 00:00:19.103 - on our agenda is the Pledge of Allegiance. Ryan, would you please stand? Pledge of Allegiance to the 00:00:19.103 --> 00:00:27.157 - flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:27.157 --> 00:00:30.942 - indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:32.162 --> 00:00:40.533 - Okay, roll call please. David Drake. Here. Dan Swapper. Steve Hale. Here. Zach Michael. Here. 00:00:40.533 --> 00:00:49.526 - Kamala Samples. Ryan Skaggs. Here. Pat Weselowski. Here. First item on our agenda is approval of the 00:00:49.526 --> 00:00:58.876 - minutes for our meeting on June 4th. Motion to approve. Second. We have a motion and a second. All those 00:00:58.876 --> 00:01:01.726 - in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? 00:01:03.298 --> 00:01:11.565 - Motion carries. Monthly conflict of interest statement. Does anyone have a conflict of interest with 00:01:11.565 --> 00:01:20.077 - the items on our agenda for this evening? Seeing none, we have no old business. New business, the first 00:01:20.077 --> 00:01:28.343 - item is the voluntary annexation of 5326 and 5328 West Woodyard Road, approximately 47.86 acres. The 00:01:28.343 --> 00:01:32.190 - petitioner is Dan Rary. The case number is PC. 00:01:32.354 --> 00:01:41.220 - 26-22. Good evening. First on our agenda this evening is petitioner Dan Rary's request to annex two 00:01:41.220 --> 00:01:50.264 - parcels totaling approximately 47.86 acres of land. And the parcels are located at 5326 and 5328 West 00:01:50.264 --> 00:01:59.397 - Woodyard Road. I will remind the plan commission that this is a public hearing about annexation of the 00:01:59.397 --> 00:02:00.638 - parcels only. 00:02:01.410 --> 00:02:10.241 - The proposed annexation area is 23% contiguous to the town of Ellsfield, and 100% of the property owners 00:02:10.241 --> 00:02:18.736 - are parties to the petition. The parcels are currently zoned AGR, agricultural residential by Monroe 00:02:18.736 --> 00:02:27.231 - County, and are recommended to be designated as agricultural upon annexation. The properties will be 00:02:27.231 --> 00:02:29.502 - located in Council Ward 5. 00:02:29.634 --> 00:02:36.953 - are serviced by water and sewer, the annexation should not require any capital projects to extend services, 00:02:36.953 --> 00:02:43.797 - and any costs for extension of utilities is borne by the petitioner. Town will provide police, fire, 00:02:43.797 --> 00:02:50.709 - EMS, and other governmental services immediately upon annexation. The Plan Commission action shall be 00:02:50.709 --> 00:02:57.621 - in the form of favorable, unfavorable, or no recommendation to town council, which takes final action 00:02:57.621 --> 00:02:59.518 - on the annexation petition. 00:03:00.514 --> 00:03:07.410 - Staff recommends a favorable recommendation be forwarded to town council with the recommendation of 00:03:07.410 --> 00:03:14.307 - zoning of agricultural upon annexation. I would ask that the favorable motion include the condition 00:03:14.307 --> 00:03:21.272 - that both Ellsville town council and the Richland Township Board agree with the annexation, that the 00:03:21.272 --> 00:03:27.134 - annexation move forward. The condition is requested because Ellsville reorganization 00:03:27.586 --> 00:03:36.675 - with Richland Township adopted the reorganization plan. Both the town and township will approve resolutions 00:03:36.675 --> 00:03:45.091 - agreeing to the annexations. The annexations will go before the town council on July 27th for their 00:03:45.091 --> 00:03:54.265 - approval. Petitioners present if you have any questions. Does anybody from the commission have any questions 00:03:54.265 --> 00:03:56.958 - for Denise? Okay, hearing none. 00:03:57.154 --> 00:04:05.397 - Dan, do you want to say anything? Okay. Um, I will open it up to public comment. Uh, the maximum is 00:04:05.397 --> 00:04:13.805 - three minutes per person, 15 minutes total. I would like to point out again that this is merely annex 00:04:13.805 --> 00:04:22.213 - proposed annexation of the property. There is no development plan. There is no anything to talk about 00:04:22.213 --> 00:04:23.614 - roads, drainage, 00:04:23.938 --> 00:04:33.277 - Anything like that that comes up at this point, that's all in later hearings if a development of some 00:04:33.277 --> 00:04:42.798 - type is proposed. I believe we got a letter about this. I would note that I don't see any way that this 00:04:42.798 --> 00:04:51.038 - property would connect up to even an opportunity to connect up to Forest Park and I think 00:04:51.362 --> 00:05:01.633 - That's all I have to say. So is there any, if anyone would like to comment on this, they can come up 00:05:01.633 --> 00:05:11.903 - and sign in at the podium. Okay, seeing none. Do we have a motion? I'll make a motion to approve the 00:05:11.903 --> 00:05:17.598 - PC2622, the voluntary annexation with the addendum that 00:05:18.562 --> 00:05:28.189 - With agricultural zoning? With agricultural zoning. And the condition of approval after both the town 00:05:28.189 --> 00:05:37.628 - council and the township board pass resolutions for the annexation to proceed. With the agenda that 00:05:37.628 --> 00:05:46.878 - the town council and township boards need to also do approval for the annexation as well. Second. 00:05:47.842 --> 00:06:00.419 - Okay, we have a motion and a second. Denise. Denise. Renee. David Drake. Yes. Steve Hale. Yes. 00:06:00.419 --> 00:06:13.790 - Zach Michael. Yes. Brian Skaggs. Yes. Pat Weslowski. Yes. Thank you. Almost. Welcome to Ellitsville. 00:06:15.394 --> 00:06:22.514 - Okay, the next item on our agenda is the development plan approval for the Ferris development plan at 00:06:22.514 --> 00:06:29.844 - 5010 North Lakeview Drive. The petitioner is Kevin Ferris. The case number is PC 26-24. Petitioner Kevin 00:06:29.844 --> 00:06:37.104 - Ferris is requesting approval of the Ferris development plan for a minor subdivision, not for the site, 00:06:37.104 --> 00:06:44.574 - development plan is for a minor subdivision consisting of four lots with single family homes, totaling 2.3 00:06:45.026 --> 00:06:53.180 - The minor subdivision is, I'll remind you, is zoned residential two. The residential two zoning district 00:06:53.180 --> 00:07:00.945 - allows a petitioner to design a minor subdivision around topographical constraints on the property. 00:07:00.945 --> 00:07:08.711 - The primary plat for the subdivision was approved by the Plan Commission on June 4th. The technical 00:07:08.711 --> 00:07:14.302 - advisory committee at that time reviewed the plans for the subdivision. 00:07:14.466 --> 00:07:21.813 - division and they reviewed the development plan as well and found no changes. Petitioner will be making 00:07:21.813 --> 00:07:29.019 - the following improvements to the Ferris storage minor subdivision, construction of a shared driveway 00:07:29.019 --> 00:07:36.154 - which will serve all lots, construction of a small pond slash water quality feature in the southeast 00:07:36.154 --> 00:07:43.006 - corner of the site which will serve all lots, and grade three lots for new houses. At this time, 00:07:43.234 --> 00:07:50.165 - Either lot two will be responsible for the maintenance of the proposed pond or all lots will enter into 00:07:50.165 --> 00:07:56.962 - a maintenance agreement. The Ferris development plan meets all minimum requirements of the Ellisville 00:07:56.962 --> 00:08:03.760 - town code. The plan commission is tasked with either approving, approving with conditions, denying or 00:08:03.760 --> 00:08:08.158 - continuing this development plan based on the following criteria. 00:08:08.994 --> 00:08:15.537 - Number one, compatibility of the development plan with surrounding land uses. Staff findings, single 00:08:15.537 --> 00:08:22.664 - family residential is found to the north, south, and west of the minor subdivision. Number two, compatibility 00:08:22.664 --> 00:08:29.531 - of the development plan with the recommendations of the comprehensive plan. Staff findings, single family 00:08:29.531 --> 00:08:35.038 - residential not fronting West State Road 46 is encouraged in the comprehensive plan. 00:08:36.418 --> 00:08:42.588 - Three, adequate provisions for internal management of traffic. Staff finding traffic will enter and 00:08:42.588 --> 00:08:49.128 - exit from North Lakeview Drive, and adequate traffic flow has been accommodated in the Ferris Development 00:08:49.128 --> 00:08:55.299 - Plan. The Fire Department has approved the common drive shown in the Development Plan. Number four, 00:08:55.299 --> 00:09:01.715 - analysis of the capacity of adjacent streets to ensure that adjacent streets can safely and efficiently 00:09:01.715 --> 00:09:05.726 - accommodate the additional traffic generated by the development. 00:09:06.594 --> 00:09:13.367 - Staff finding, all traffic should come from North Lakeview Drive. There is no reason for concern as 00:09:13.367 --> 00:09:20.275 - three additional single family lots will not generate a substantial increase in traffic. Number five, 00:09:20.275 --> 00:09:27.589 - adequate provisions for public facilities and infrastructure and provisions for extension of infrastructure 00:09:27.589 --> 00:09:34.429 - to adjacent developable properties. Staff finding, a minor subdivision does not require the creation 00:09:34.429 --> 00:09:36.190 - of public infrastructure. 00:09:36.930 --> 00:09:43.638 - Provisions for the allocation of land for streets, parks, schools, public and semi-public buildings, 00:09:43.638 --> 00:09:50.744 - homes, businesses, and industry as appropriate. North Lakeview Drive is maintained by a town at Ellsville. 00:09:50.744 --> 00:09:57.917 - And I wanna remind you, it's a four lot minor subdivision. Seven, adequate on-site management of stormwater 00:09:57.917 --> 00:10:04.625 - and erosion control. Staff finding, petitioner will be constructing a small pond slash water quality 00:10:04.625 --> 00:10:06.750 - feature in the southeast corner 00:10:06.882 --> 00:10:14.136 - of the subdivision, it will serve all lots. Number eight, adequate provision for green space and our 00:10:14.136 --> 00:10:21.174 - landscaping. Staff finding landscaping in green space is not a requirement of minor subdivisions. 00:10:21.174 --> 00:10:28.500 - Number nine, adequate provision for buffering to significantly reduce the visual impact of dissimilar 00:10:28.500 --> 00:10:34.174 - developments. Buffering is not a requirement of minor subdivisions. Number 10, 00:10:34.370 --> 00:10:41.314 - Adequate protection of existing limestone structures. Staff finding there are no limestone structures 00:10:41.314 --> 00:10:48.326 - indicated on the site. Number 11 and lastly, provision of pathways, trails, and our sidewalks were all 00:10:48.326 --> 00:10:55.202 - non-industrial developments. Staff finding, sidewalks, pathways, and trails are not a requirement of 00:10:55.202 --> 00:10:58.334 - minor subdivisions. Plan, commission, action. 00:10:58.914 --> 00:11:05.521 - on the development plan can be in the form of approval, approval with conditions, denial or to continue 00:11:05.521 --> 00:11:12.064 - the hearing. The plan commission has the final say in these matters. Staff recommendation, development 00:11:12.064 --> 00:11:18.608 - plan approval shall be predicated on the aforementioned criteria. If the plan commission does not find 00:11:18.608 --> 00:11:25.278 - that the Ferris development plan is in agreement with those items, the plan commission shall approve it. 00:11:25.954 --> 00:11:32.623 - Additionally, the plan commission may include any conditions they feel are necessary and relevant to 00:11:32.623 --> 00:11:39.755 - develop the property in an appropriate manner. It is staff opinion that the requirements of the development 00:11:39.755 --> 00:11:46.358 - plan pursuant to the town of Ellsville Unified Development Ordinance have been reasonably achieved. 00:11:46.358 --> 00:11:53.159 - Staff recommends the plan commission approve the development plan. Petitioner's representative is here 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:54.942 - if you have any questions. 00:11:55.202 --> 00:12:08.384 - See if I get this to work, there. So this is the development plan. And there's already an existing house 00:12:08.384 --> 00:12:21.691 - here and then there'll be the ability to construct three new homes. Okay, does anybody have any questions 00:12:21.691 --> 00:12:24.830 - for Denise? Seeing none. 00:12:25.122 --> 00:12:43.544 - Does the petitioner want to say anything? Do we have any comment from the public? Okay, come on up, 00:12:43.544 --> 00:12:54.782 - sign in, and you've got three minutes. And what's your name? 00:12:55.106 --> 00:13:01.490 - We recently acquired the property north of this development site, 5020 North Lakeview Drive. I just 00:13:01.490 --> 00:13:07.938 - had a few questions. You've answered a couple already. Obviously, water flow. It sounds like they're 00:13:07.938 --> 00:13:14.577 - going to be something with a retention pond to take care of that. My next would be, will these be homes 00:13:14.577 --> 00:13:21.089 - built for sale or for rental? Next question would be single story, two story? And then is there going 00:13:21.089 --> 00:13:22.238 - to be any kind of 00:13:22.466 --> 00:13:35.146 - protection for privacy for my lot to the north of them. That's it. AJ, can you answer any of those? 00:13:35.146 --> 00:13:48.079 - That probably wouldn't hurt. My name is AJ Willis. I'm the engineer for this development representing 00:13:48.079 --> 00:13:49.854 - Kevin Ferris. 00:13:50.370 --> 00:13:57.967 - We don't know what the house plans are going to be at this time. They're going to be standard single-family 00:13:57.967 --> 00:14:05.213 - residential. There's not going to be anything special about them or out of the ordinary. The town will 00:14:05.213 --> 00:14:12.388 - review the building plans for building permits, so that will ensure that each building is per the UDO 00:14:12.388 --> 00:14:19.422 - and up to standards. For privacy, there's no privacy requirements between single-family residential 00:14:19.586 --> 00:14:31.988 - and single family residential. That's going to be completely up to the petitioner or the adjacent property 00:14:31.988 --> 00:14:44.158 - owners. We're not required to add any type of privacy buffer. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else? Okay, 00:14:44.158 --> 00:14:48.446 - I will make a motion that we approve 00:14:49.378 --> 00:15:02.630 - Case number PC26-24 for 5010 North Lakeview Drive. Second. Second. Okay, roll call, please. David Dre. 00:15:02.630 --> 00:15:13.566 - Yes. Steve Hale. Yes. Zach Michael. Yes. Ryan Skaggs. Pat Weslowski. Yes. Thank you. 00:15:15.746 --> 00:15:24.328 - So before we move on to the next one, just so that you were clear, we don't have building plans at this 00:15:24.328 --> 00:15:33.074 - point, that comes at a later stage. And that there's no requirement, that we don't typically put barriers 00:15:33.074 --> 00:15:41.491 - between single family houses. If you wanna put up your own fence, you're fine to do that. Okay. Okay, 00:15:41.491 --> 00:15:45.534 - next item on our agenda is primary plan approval 00:15:47.042 --> 00:15:57.692 - 24 lots, 29.64 acres in the Barberry State's phase three subdivision, 7691 West Reeves Road, gas number 00:15:57.692 --> 00:16:08.241 - PC26-17. This is a request by petitioner Josh Clark of Barberry Homes for primary plat approval of the 00:16:08.241 --> 00:16:16.638 - single family residential subdivision consisting of 24 lots totaling 29.64 acres, 00:16:16.962 --> 00:16:24.137 - The lots are zoned residential one, single family residential. Subdivision will be accessed from West 00:16:24.137 --> 00:16:31.312 - Reeves Road. Technical Review Committee met on May 19th. All items have been addressed. The lots will 00:16:31.312 --> 00:16:38.486 - meet all size and dimensional requirements of the UDO, Unified Development Ordinance. Plan Commission 00:16:38.486 --> 00:16:44.606 - action on the primary plaque can be in the form of approval, approval with conditions, 00:16:44.770 --> 00:16:52.208 - denial are to continue the hearing. The plan commission has the final say in these matters. It is staff 00:16:52.208 --> 00:16:59.574 - recommendation. It is a staff opinion that the proposed primary plat will meet all required zoning and 00:16:59.574 --> 00:17:07.011 - minor subdivision regulations. Therefore, staff recommends that the plan commission approve the primary 00:17:07.011 --> 00:17:13.662 - plat for Barbaria State's phase three subdivision. And I wanna go through various pages from 00:17:14.722 --> 00:17:25.415 - the primary plat. So this is an overall rendering of how it will look once all lots are in. And you'll 00:17:25.415 --> 00:17:36.316 - notice the ponds in the center. And I just wanted to go ahead and show you, this is the site and utility 00:17:36.316 --> 00:17:43.998 - plan and how the road will come in and it will also connect to this road. 00:17:46.306 --> 00:17:56.995 - And this is another site and utility page from site and utility plan. And this shows a little more of 00:17:56.995 --> 00:18:07.685 - the lots and the pond. And that connects out to Loudoun? Yes. So Reeves is this way and then it'll go 00:18:07.685 --> 00:18:15.230 - out to Loudoun. Wow, okay. And this is first page of the grading plans. 00:18:15.394 --> 00:18:24.784 - wanted to show you mostly this is for the pond, and the engineer can explain later erosion control around 00:18:24.784 --> 00:18:34.263 - the pond and the changes being made to the pond, which we're very pleased with. But there's some technical 00:18:34.263 --> 00:18:42.590 - detail in there, so I'm gonna let him explain it. This is another page from the grading plan. 00:18:47.714 --> 00:18:59.058 - This is the last page from the grading plan. So I'll be happy to go back to any of these if you'd like 00:18:59.058 --> 00:19:10.071 - to see them. Petitioner's representative is present to further explain the changes made to the pond 00:19:10.071 --> 00:19:14.366 - and erosion control, things like that. 00:19:17.794 --> 00:19:27.858 - Okay, you're up, again. AJ Willis again, Josh was unable to make it tonight. So just a few things I 00:19:27.858 --> 00:19:38.223 - wanna talk about with this plan. It's pretty much the same plan that you guys approved in 2024, except 00:19:38.223 --> 00:19:46.878 - we added 10 lots. The only changes from the previous plan set, we increased the tree, 00:19:47.042 --> 00:19:54.608 - plot width for the sidewalks to six feet. And then there were some stormwater changes because Ellsville 00:19:54.608 --> 00:20:01.882 - came out the new stormwater ordinance. So the stormwater changes are actually more conservative now 00:20:01.882 --> 00:20:09.448 - than they were back in 2024. So the existing lake in the middle of the site, it's just basically a farm 00:20:09.448 --> 00:20:15.486 - pond where it only had a dam and a spillway. So what we're doing is we're actually 00:20:15.682 --> 00:20:22.929 - incorporating a new riser structure. It's a six foot by six foot box that's going to hold the water 00:20:22.929 --> 00:20:30.320 - surface elevation. And then we have 4.2 feet of storage to the spillway of that lake. So essentially, 00:20:30.320 --> 00:20:38.219 - on a normal day, the water elevation will always be at 758 point whatever. That's where that riser structure 00:20:38.219 --> 00:20:43.582 - is set at. It's gonna hold that water surface elevation. And rain events, 00:20:43.682 --> 00:20:53.040 - providing 4.2 feet of storage above that normal pool elevation. And that's how we're able to reduce 00:20:53.040 --> 00:21:02.399 - the runoff rates from the site. So that lake actually takes in a total of 136 acres of runoff. It's 00:21:02.399 --> 00:21:11.102 - about 100 of that is offsite coming from the south and the east. So our lake design actually 00:21:11.234 --> 00:21:19.195 - reduces the runoff rates for off-site water as well. Per the storm water design manual, we're not required 00:21:19.195 --> 00:21:27.008 - to do that. But since it is just a large amount of water, we've incorporated the tension into our design 00:21:27.008 --> 00:21:34.746 - for the off-site runoff. In the 100-year storm event, the pre-development runoff rate is 230 CFS. We're 00:21:34.746 --> 00:21:39.582 - reducing it all the way down to 61 CFS out of the existing lake. 00:21:39.746 --> 00:21:47.339 - And then just north of the lake, there's a small stormwater and detention pond. That's for our 21 lots 00:21:47.339 --> 00:21:55.152 - that are actually draining below the lake. None of this new development actually drains into the existing 00:21:55.152 --> 00:22:02.524 - lake except for like one or two lots. And I'm more than happy to answer any questions. Does anybody 00:22:02.524 --> 00:22:03.998 - have any questions? 00:22:09.186 --> 00:22:19.806 - Don't go far. Okay, we are now open for public comment. If anyone would like to comment, you get three minutes. 00:22:39.522 --> 00:22:48.593 - My name is Rose Seguin, and I live in Barberry Estates. My husband and I have a home there. And since 00:22:48.593 --> 00:22:57.753 - we were actually the first residents there in that development, and we've not been told much about the 00:22:57.753 --> 00:23:06.646 - extension and the development, which we don't have a lot of problem with. We do have some questions 00:23:06.646 --> 00:23:08.958 - concerning the pond area. 00:23:10.210 --> 00:23:20.139 - We've had some drainage problems on our land and have had to do landscaping more than once, but we've 00:23:20.139 --> 00:23:30.165 - kept it up at our own expense. Our question about the pond is health reasons. We've not been told what 00:23:30.165 --> 00:23:37.758 - the expenses will be to keep it up, what the safety concerns are for children 00:23:37.858 --> 00:23:45.937 - There's so many children around there with the school. And Prominence Point has children. They're in 00:23:45.937 --> 00:23:54.016 - and out of the neighborhood riding their bikes. And children will be attracted to a pond, as well as 00:23:54.016 --> 00:24:02.335 - insects, bugs, little animals. But mainly the children. We haven't heard anything for safety. They will 00:24:02.335 --> 00:24:06.494 - be playing down there, no doubt. And another issue. 00:24:07.522 --> 00:24:15.993 - that I think, and ponds are nice. They're kind of an attractive nuisance, but they aren't an expense 00:24:15.993 --> 00:24:24.549 - as well. One of my other questions was we were told initially there would be an HOA, and then because 00:24:24.549 --> 00:24:33.272 - we have all kept up the common ground near our lots at our own expenses, they kind of let that go. Josh 00:24:33.272 --> 00:24:37.214 - and Lindsay did not collect it this past year. 00:24:38.306 --> 00:24:47.193 - How will the HOA be initiated again and how will it affect us that we're not anywhere near the pond 00:24:47.193 --> 00:24:56.168 - area where it's going to be, but yet will we have to pay for what maintenance will be done yearly or 00:24:56.168 --> 00:25:05.143 - what, and how will that affect our taxes? Will they keep it insured in case children are hurt there? 00:25:05.143 --> 00:25:07.454 - There's just things that, 00:25:08.514 --> 00:25:16.399 - We've not been told anything actually and we just had these questions and concerns. Thank you. Maybe 00:25:16.399 --> 00:25:24.439 - you can try to address some of those that are relevant to our things and then get with them afterwards 00:25:24.439 --> 00:25:32.402 - and answer some of the other things. Really the only thing I can really speak on that because I don't 00:25:32.402 --> 00:25:35.134 - really know how the HOA is set up. 00:25:35.554 --> 00:25:42.712 - is just the safety concerns for the pond. So anytime you have a wet pond, it's standard that anytime 00:25:42.712 --> 00:25:50.083 - you have a pond that's deeper than four feet, you kind of create a shelf on the embankment. So all that 00:25:50.083 --> 00:25:57.384 - storage that we're providing, that is, so the water surface elevation is gonna be four feet below that 00:25:57.384 --> 00:26:04.542 - spillway, then there will be a shelf. So that's if in a rain event, if somebody falls into the pond, 00:26:04.898 --> 00:26:11.137 - They're not trying to climb up a steep embankment. They have somewhere they can stand and get their 00:26:11.137 --> 00:26:17.376 - foot in to get out of the pond. And then every four feet, you just have that shelf in the bottom of 00:26:17.376 --> 00:26:23.864 - the pond. And that's usually about 10 feet wide. That's really the only thing you can do in a situation 00:26:23.864 --> 00:26:30.415 - like this, other than fence it. But when it's a pond, it's going to be used as an amenity. There's going 00:26:30.415 --> 00:26:34.782 - to be a walking trail around it in the future. That's kind of how you 00:26:35.650 --> 00:26:47.424 - account for safety. Okay. So so most of the questions that you had revolve around things that we don't 00:26:47.424 --> 00:26:58.969 - have control over that you'll have to talk to the whoever runs the homeowners association or the the 00:26:58.969 --> 00:27:03.198 - there isn't there an office for this 00:27:04.450 --> 00:27:12.769 - subdivision right there on Reeves Road? And those are, that's where you need to ask some of these other 00:27:12.769 --> 00:27:20.848 - questions. We can only control how they divide the property up and make sure that it fits within the 00:27:20.848 --> 00:27:28.927 - town's regulations. Those other questions are things that are really outside of our control that you 00:27:28.927 --> 00:27:34.366 - need to talk to the developer and the homeowners association about. 00:27:34.978 --> 00:27:42.400 - I don't see any way it would raise your taxes. Only the government can raise your taxes. So, I mean, 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:49.749 - if you're paying homeowners or HOA fees, they could increase those to pay for some of those things, 00:27:49.749 --> 00:27:57.244 - but we don't have any control over that either. So you'll have to, he can maybe get you in contact or 00:27:57.244 --> 00:28:02.462 - tell you who to contact to get some of those other questions answered. 00:28:14.882 --> 00:28:27.120 - for the pond, is there like a year, like a lifespan? I'm not really sure. So that's kind of outside 00:28:27.120 --> 00:28:39.357 - of my purview as well. The petitioner has actually hired a geotechnical engineer that provided them 00:28:39.357 --> 00:28:43.518 - with plans on how to rebuild that 00:28:43.810 --> 00:28:53.279 - that dam and that spillway to ensure that it has the structural integrity to withstand all these rain 00:28:53.279 --> 00:29:03.304 - events in the future. So those dams usually have a clay core that have really high compaction requirements. 00:29:03.304 --> 00:29:12.030 - And it's usually like a trapezoid. It comes down at a 45 degree angle. So that's kind of just 00:29:13.410 --> 00:29:23.339 - That's really all we can do lifespan-wise is just to ensure that the dam and the spillway are constructed 00:29:23.339 --> 00:29:33.361 - properly. And that's why the petitioner hired a geotechnical engineer to actually give them specifications 00:29:33.361 --> 00:29:39.262 - on the design of that dam. So would they have that information 00:29:39.426 --> 00:29:49.750 - like more readily available as far as lifespan goes from and see if that's mentioned. I'm not sure if 00:29:49.750 --> 00:30:00.277 - it is or not. I will add that when all is said and done that our engineer will be inspecting it as well 00:30:00.277 --> 00:30:06.046 - before it's turned over to the future who pays for that. 00:30:07.682 --> 00:30:15.940 - I'm not sure who pays for it. That's kind of a difficult question because it depends what is wrong. 00:30:15.940 --> 00:30:24.611 - So what we've done with our riser structure, we actually have a 12-inch pipe that extends into the pond. 00:30:24.611 --> 00:30:32.869 - So let's say there is a breach in that spillway or a breach in that dam. They can actually drain, I 00:30:32.869 --> 00:30:37.246 - think it's like the first three or four feet of that 00:30:37.506 --> 00:30:43.438 - the normal pool elevation out of that pond through that 12-inch pipe. And then if that gets them to 00:30:43.438 --> 00:30:49.370 - the point where they can do their repairs, they can. If they have to drain it more, they'll have to 00:30:49.370 --> 00:30:55.658 - pump it from that point. But that 12-inch pipe, there's a gate valve in that box. So if there is a breach 00:30:55.658 --> 00:31:01.650 - or if there is a damn failure, they can start draining that and it will drain slowly. That's why you 00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:05.150 - extend a 12-inch pipe into the pond. You don't extend this 00:31:05.314 --> 00:31:16.038 - great big pipe so it just rushes out. So we do have some measures in our pond design for situations 00:31:16.038 --> 00:31:27.191 - where that pond does need to be drained rapidly. Okay, any more questions for AJ? And can you make sure 00:31:27.191 --> 00:31:34.590 - you talk to them after the meeting and tell them who to get hold of? 00:31:37.314 --> 00:31:52.132 - Do we have a motion? In that case, I will make a motion that we make approved, primary approval for 00:31:52.132 --> 00:32:06.654 - case number PC26-17. Second. Okay, roll call, please. David Drake. Oh, come on, I'm always first. 00:32:08.290 --> 00:32:18.612 - Pat Wesolowski. Yes. Ryan Skaggs. Yes. Zach Michael. Yes. Steve Hale. Yes. Thank you. I must be more 00:32:18.612 --> 00:32:29.036 - important. Planning Department update. Our next meeting is August 6th, and at this time I have no new 00:32:29.036 --> 00:32:36.190 - business. Okay, privilege of the floor. Planning Commission comments. 00:32:37.698 --> 00:32:38.910 - Seeing none, we're adjourned.