Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to call over to the second meeting of the Reorganization Committee of
Ellitsville in the township of Richland. Yeah, let's do prayer and pledge. I'll say a prayer. Father,
we thank you for this day. We thank you for the many ways that you bless us. Tons of folks don't have
roofs over their heads.
kind of clothes that we wear or the food that we eat or the clean water that we drink. We praise you
for all of that. We thank you that we can meet like this in a country that we're free to do so. We thank
you that we can do this justly and in order. And we ask that you lead, guide, and direct us. And it's
in Jesus' name that we pray. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all. Andrew, if you want to do a roll call. Andrew, you want to do a roll call? Go ahead and do
a roll call. I am present. Kevin is present. William? I'm present. Don? I'm all here, but I'm present.
and Scott is absent. We are expecting Mike though, right? That as far as I know. Okay, and we've all
gotten a copy of minutes from the last meeting, the first meeting. You want to do roll call? So that's
a question. I was not sure what my responsibility was as secretary. Am I required to provide a hard
copy for the entire committee to sign at a subsequent meeting? What's the process for approving and
entering our minutes?
Well typically I think that that would be appropriate if you wanted to send them out and I'm sorry I
didn't discuss this with you at the last meeting. It would be appropriate before a meeting to go ahead
and email copies of the minutes. Okay. I didn't have a hard copy that we would sign. For the next meeting
why don't you bring a hard copy so that they can sign off. Thank you.
or shall we wait till the next meeting to do that when we have the hard copy to sign? Okay. Item on
the agenda would be to elect a seventh member. Does everybody concur? Concur. Okay, and do we have a
nomination? I'll nominate Dr. Jerry Sanders from the Richland Bean Blossom School System Superintendent.
Which is what we were hoping for,
somebody from the education community. Got a nomination, do we have a second? I'll second. John seconds.
On the roll, Andrew votes yes. Kevin? Yes. Yes, William? Yes. Yes, Don? Yes. Okay, I guess. I mean,
Dr. Sanders can come up here now if he'd like. And then run the meeting, where is he?
That's why we're plotting. And you're supposed to bring a gavel, but obviously you don't have a gavel,
so. Noel's hiding it, the gavel. I'm gonna move over. Do you wanna run the meeting? We'd prefer it.
Why don't you run it? Yeah. It's an hour committee's complete. What's that? It's an hour committee's complete.
I would say to bring it up to speed would be formation of subcommittees and appointments to
the subcommittees. I would say everybody that we've got on this side that has committed, why don't we
go over them? I'm not objectionable to anybody. Is anybody objectionable to any of them? There's some
discussion, maybe it's a couple, but I don't have objections to any of them.
You want to do that? Subcommittee, a minimum of three. Thank you. Why don't we take them committee by
committee? Sounds great. And just put these numbers so that way we don't have to discuss the names.
We can just say number five, number four, have a discussion with that happen to. So the first one is
planning and zoning. We have three.
of people, citizens who volunteered. I know that I have spoken with number 16 and 17, and they both
have some pretty extensive knowledge as at least as far as agriculture goes. 16 and 17 are
in the undetermined category? Yes. Okay. No, wait a minute.
17 and eight, wait a minute. Yeah, 16 and 17 is right. I thought you were right. I definitely would
move number 17 over planning and zoning, because I think that would be that person's expertise. Number 16 has,
He has, that person is an associate professor, let's see here, holds a master's degree and a PhD from
Parks and Rec Tourism, so maybe that would be a better one, but he also,
has a farm in Richland Township that he currently has livestock on and runs a business through. He has
background in academia centers on rural land rights and 10-year agriculture, dairying, and farming systems
with particular attention how to policy and government decisions affect rural livelihoods and landscapes.
So I guess there's really a few places he could go.
I have no objection to planning and zoning. Why are they undetermined? Is it undetermined that they
want to serve, but they're not sure where they want to serve? They want us to... Some of them said I'm
interested in this or this or this, and I'm willing to serve wherever you guys need something. Some
of these people applied before we had
blasted out to the, since we're going by the Sheridan plan, we knew that plan, which was public, what
the subcommittees were, but they hadn't, we hadn't jelled that yet. We hadn't put that out what committees
we were looking for yet. So how do you wanna do this? You wanna do motion and second? Yeah, somebody
would have to make a motion and second
Do we want to do these separately? Can we combine them? Well, I would say make a motion for whoever
you think ought to be on planning and zoning. Okay, so my understanding is they both want to be on planning
and zoning? Plus the three that are already listed there. Well, I make a motion that... Do we need to
make a motion to actually create the subcommittee as well? Is it already created? Does it exist yet?
We have a list of proposed subcommittees, but we did not create them at the last meeting. I don't know.
Do we need to put teeth to those? I would just for the record. OK. Thank you. So I'll make a motion
to create the subcommittee for planning and zoning. I second it. And that's with these five individuals
or just? Well, just right now for the subcommittee. Just forming some subcommittee, OK? All right.
We had a motion to second, any discussion? I think just for the public to know that planning and zoning
will be looking at the different, the township and the actual what they'd call urban. I know people,
it's hard to believe Ellisville would be considered urban, but they have different needs, different
wants, different desires, and we wanna reflect that in our planning to zoning, because it's not a one
size fits all.
I mean what works for in town may not work for somebody that owns 50, 60 acres and we want to reflect
that. Most of our UDO currently does that but we don't know what we don't know and that's why
the subcommittee is there. Anybody else want to add to that? Just a question for how we actually run
this in the interest of saving my hand. Is it possible that we do a motion that creates all the listed
subcommittees or do you want to do every single one of them individually?
I agree. You want me to amend my motion? I'll amend my motion to create the subcommittees of planning
and zoning, subcommittee of finance, subcommittee of governance, subcommittee of public safety, subcommittee
of parks and rec, and subcommittee of roads and streets. And we're actually missing one on here. Water,
sewer, and wastewater.
water, sewer, wastewater. Somewhere I saw that parks and rec was also cemeteries. So do we want to discuss
these and open it for public comment on these before we vote? See if there's
I think that would be reasonable if anybody wants to give public comment on that list of subcommittees.
I would be willing to hear public comment on it. Would anybody like to speak on the subcommittees that
have been made motions on? That list was planning and zoning, finance, governance, public safety, parks
and rec, roads and streets, and water, sewer, wastewater.
We want to add cemeteries. Yes. I have a question. So what about Department of Aid that would cover
what the trustee currently does? Would that fall under finance? If you guys say it will. What's the
pleasure of that? I mean, that's a good question. I think it's going to be
hard for us to find enough people that are knowledgeable enough in that area? I don't know. Sure,
just so, I just wanted to mention it so somebody would not think we're leaving it out. Sure. I do have
somebody that we could potentially put there. All right. What's the thoughts? I'm comfortable with being
under finance. I am too. I am. So am I. But we did have a public open
see any okay William moved Kevin seconded I vote yes Kevin yes yes Jerry yes William yes Don yes
All right, and get Mike up to speed. We just created officially the subcommittees. Is there a copy of
the list down there? I do not have another copy. Thank you. Mike, this is our scratch list of nominees
for subcommittees, people who have volunteered to serve
We did add a water sewer and wastewater subcommittee, which was not originally on this spreadsheet,
and then added in line 28, parks and rec and cemeteries to that subcommittee. Water storm and wastewater.
So amended.
Water storm. Water storm sewer and wastewater. Okay. That sounds like an Avengers movie. Superhero infinity
wastewater. All right. We have the subcommittees 91 appointed people. Yes. And I think if since
With our discussion here, there were no objections. I think it'd be safe to read the names of those
who were planning that were putting to the vote for planning and zoning. I guess I can. All right, planning
and zoning, I'd like to nominate Diane Critchlow, Eric Spoonmore, Mike Richardson, James Farmer, and
Marv Olmert.
None. Do you want to have public comment on each of these before we vote or do it at the end? I'm not
opposed to doing it one by one. I mean, I know, I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of...
I'm not opposed to one by one either. If somebody really wants to say something, I think they should
be able to. Yeah. Can I make a suggestion? Sure.
It's lying beyond that committee, obviously, so. Okay. Could I talk about that, please? Sure. Well,
I was going to recommend after you go through the different committees that I was going to recommend
that we embed a department head that usually takes care of that for the town of Ellisville now, and
whether they're committee members or they're there to
help with any questions or to run through how we do our business. I was gonna recommend that each department
had picked what they do now and you can utilize them for information and maybe some guidance. What if
we just vote on the volunteers who are volunteering to serve on these committees and then the town can
assign people to different
people who work for the town to the different subcommittees. That's really good. That may solve the
issue with yours too. Yes, yeah. So the information is there, but. We can just assign her to that. That
would be awesome. So I think we probably should make a motion to that for clarity that we're
powering the town or township because there's, I think one definitely they want to assign someone to.
But if we want to, should we just get through the planning and zoning first? Exactly, right now the
only motion is the planning and zoning. There was a sixth person that you mentioned to be added to the
list. That was the town supervisor. Gotcha, okay. And so that discussion addressed that.
Okay, our five volunteers are Dan Critchlow, Eric Spoonmore, Mike Richardson, James Farmer,
and Marv Olmet. And we have a motion and a second. And did we call for public comment? Yes, but we didn't
have any. Okay, all right. Any public comment on those five nominees for claims?
Okay The motion to place
On the planning and zoning subcommittee, Dan Critchlow, Eric Spoonmore, Mike Richardson, James Farmer,
and Marv Olmet. Call on the roll. I vote yes. Kevin? Yes. Yes. Jerry? Yes. Yes. William? Yes. Don? Yes.
Mike? Yes. All right. Motion passes. OK. Next is Finance Committee. Finance, did we have something to that?
Yes, poor relief. Do we wanna call it poor relief? Is there an official? Well, the township calls it
township assistance, and poor relief is somewhat of a derogatory. Yeah, exactly. So I feel a better
way to put it would be public assistance. Okay, finance and public assistance.
We have three individuals listed here. Do you want to add two more from the undetermined list? We have
three people that specifically expressed interest in addition to the three that we had initially
is from the township and she does not live in the township though, but she works at the township.
So we can, the township office can be the ex officio. So she doesn't need to be included in that. Included
in the list of the five. So we have two more, which would bring it to five. What's the two more?
4 and 11. So we'll have like 1 to 30 A and 1 to 30 B. Are we OK with adding those two?
I have no objections. I spoke to number four and number 11. Both of them seemed motivated and enthusiastic.
I'm excited to have them on. I had not had the opportunity to talk to the three who were over in the
left-hand column yet. I've spoken to number 12 and number 13, and they're very enthusiastic about it.
The team has a lot of experience. Absolutely. That will be beneficial. If there are no objections or
other comments from the board, can we go ahead and read the names and then request public comment? Well,
again, do we need to make a motion to move them from one column to the other? Can we just? I would just
name them. Okay.
I'll move that we appoint the following to the finance and public assistance committee Kenny Williams
Jerry Cravens Sandy hash Elaine Thompson and Richard Matt Okay any discussion of
here at the board? Just that we have a great list of candidates. It is. This is tapping into the talent
pool. Yes. Yes. Okay. To place the following on the Finance Committee, Kenny Williams, Jerry Cravens,
Sandy Hash, Lane Thompson and Richard Matt. I vote yes.
Yes, Jerry? Yes. William? Yes. Yes. Don? Yes. Mike? Yes. Motion passes. Okay, next subcommittee
is governance. We have two who have volunteered for this subcommittee. From the list of undecideds,
for anybody that knows them, I don't know most of the undecideds.
Is there a third person we can bring over to? And for the public, keep in mind, we can add to these
committees later too. Or if there's anyone in the audience that would like to be on this, please raise
up your hand and tell us a little bit about yourself.
Governance will be the committee that will decide how the town council will be reorganized, how the
wards are probably considered council districts at that time will be organized, whether they'll be in
districts all at large, a combination of both, what precincts will go into what district and how to
merge the township
you know, trustee office and some of their duties in the actual, because I think there's a provision
in the code where the township trustee can still be elected, but they just serve with the town. So those
are all things that have to be, that they'll hash out on that. What about number five on the end-of-term
list for governance? I don't know the person, but I have no objection.
Is there anyone with familiarity with number, oh, five, I'm with the wrong person. I don't know if that's
where he would want to be, because I do know with him. Based on your experience, you think another company
might be a better fit for him?
traditionally probably planning and zoning, but we're kind of full on that. But if we have a, that can
be added later. If, let's see, I don't see him here. We can, he has some experience with this. He didn't
specifically say any other subcommittees. No, he said he'd help where he could.
I know my father, I think he would do a good job. I think he would too. And if he decides not to, then
we will handle that. Line five to the governance committee.
Any others you want to add to governance? We can always add people later, right? Right. Okay. All right.
Are we ready to read the names? Yep. Do you want to make a motion? I'll make a motion.
that we move number 19 over, and so we will have, under governance, we will have Noel Conyer, Tom Spencer,
and Tice Carmichael. I'll second. Any comments from the public? Or any volunteers? Don't make us volunteer.
Governance sounds like a hoot, guys. Get in on the fun.
Any more discussion from the board? I'm good. Okay. All right, roll call to place on the Governance
Committee, Noel Conyer, Tom Spencer, and Tice Carr-Michael. I vote yes. Kevin? Yes. Jerry? Yes. William?
Yes. Don? Yes. And Mike? Yes. Motion passes. Okay, next one is public safety.
Considered number 25 as a possible member on this subcommittee, I would actually, since we had several
other people who expressed interest and had relevant experience in the undetermined, maybe even just
in the interest of having that one person in line 25 who has a lot on his plate not be overloaded, I
would rather place someone else in that position. We could also put him as an ex officio if need be.
and things because we never voted on this person being. So are there two others you want to add? From
the undetermined column, I spoke with Sherry Newcomer and she expressed a strong interest in the Public
Safety Committee. Sorry. Line 14. I knew that was going to happen. I'm just glad it wasn't me. Does
it matter at number 23?
I wouldn't have an issue with it, but. I don't, but I don't know if anyone else does. I was not aware
of the connection. You may be now. You are now. Okay. I think that would be a problem. We also had interest
in the public safety committee from undetermined line, undetermined line 12.
I have no objections. All right, do we have a motion? A motion that under the category of public safety
that we nominate Zach Michaels, John Newcomer, Calvin Poole, Josh Conway, and Sherry Newcomer.
I'll second any public from the comment from the public. All right. More discussion from the board.
All right. So on the motion to place on the Public Safety Committee
Zach Michaels, John Newcomer, Calvin Poole, Sherry Newcomer, and Josh Conway. I vote yes. Kevin? Yes.
Jerry? Yes. William? Yes. Dawn? Yes. Mike? Yes. Motion carries. All right. Parks and Recreation and
Cemetery is the next subcommittee. We have two individuals who've
indicated they would like to serve on that subcommittee. Are there any others that the board would like
to add? I didn't clarify number 29. I could not find a specific recommendation with the town of where
that person wanted to serve, but I also believe they submitted to the township. Am I correct on that?
Oh, they did not. Okay. Um, then it may just been orally telling us. So, um,
and they can always say no. Is there anybody from the undecideds that you guys know that would be good
for them? I think eight or nine. Eight or nine, both of them have opted out. They've opted out? Yeah.
Okay. Is there anyone else? Why we're doing it is. Anybody else has opted out? Number two and number
three. Have both opted out? Opted out.
And also number six and number seven are question mark, unless anybody knows different. I do not. Then
there's one person left. We've got three people. Three? Three. Okay. I was gonna say number 10.
Add number 10. Any others? All right, I'll entertain a motion. I will move to nominate for Parks, Rec
and Cemeteries, Jim Perry, Paula Anderson,
and Michael Clemens. Any comments from the public? Any more comments from the board? All right, we'll
take a vote. All right, to place on the Parks, Rec, and Cemeteries Committee, Jim Perry, Paula Anderson,
and Michael Clemens, I vote yes. Kevin? Yes. Jerry? Yes. William? Yes.
And Mike? Yes. Motion passes. I do want to, I could not get, could not find the contact information
for Jim Perry. I don't know why, because he's emailed me numerous times, but it's not showing up in
my email. So my attempt, I plan to reach out to him today to make sure that was okay. But if anyone
has contact information, I would love it. I can reach out to him tomorrow to confirm this is okay with him.
we are going to confirm with all these. Absolutely. All right, roads and streets. We have two individuals.
Does the board wanna add any others? Are these the two we have left? Yeah.
I would recommend doing maybe doing the two that have already said that they would like to serve on
roads and streets and then for water storm sewer and waste
table that one and then maybe go back and some of these undetermined people ask if they would want to
serve on one or the other. Especially with roads and streets, water waste, water storm and wastewater
and public safety, I would say they really require more of a specialization. So. I wouldn't be opposed
to folks that work for the street department and water and sewer, you know, them being on it.
Would you have any feel for it one way or the other? What is that? Well, yeah, I mean, we's going to
embed somebody in the committee. If it's not inappropriate, I would recommend maybe number four would
fit into that committee as well. I don't know if he'll be interested. Number five? Well, it's Tice.
I was gonna ask, do we have any objection to having occasionally people be on two subcommittees,
is that? I don't have an objection. But we can also, I mean some of these others are gonna take longer,
planning and zoning, it's gonna take a while, finance, public safety. Yeah, governance, a lot of that
luckily will be
Yeah and more of a math problem how to draw the districts the state code guides that you know they have
to be fairly equal big differences how we're going to do it at large or all districts. So on roads and
streets water storm sewer and wastewater does everybody understand what I asked we need I would
recommend having people from the departments that's already in place, since they're the experts, they
know the ins and outs and all the pitfalls, everything conducive to those positions that. If there are
employees that are willing to serve, I think that would be a good idea. Yeah, don't want it to look
like a conflict of interest, but who's going to know those areas of expertise better than the folks
that do it daily?
Keep in mind there may be people that work for other municipalities in Richland Township that could
serve on these committees, that they work for Bloomington streets or Bloomington, and they could put
their two cents worth in. So we have two other water companies that'll be inside our town limits if
this happens. So maybe I could reach out to Van Buren Water and Bean Blossom Patrickburg, and they could
have someone that would represent
not only their interests and knowledge, but they could lend it to what we're doing, and it would allow
for coordination in the future. Pardon? A really good idea. Yeah, so probably somebody from that, and
that would make up a really good, and the Eastern Richland Sear Corporation could probably serve up
somebody that would be willing to
help with this, that's a really good idea. I left them out for some reason. Would the board entertain
a motion for me to table the appointment for water storm and wastewater to our next meeting so we can
reach out to those folks? Yes. I think that's a good idea. Yeah, and if I could make one recommendation,
he works as a consultant engineer for us now. Look at, see if Rick Coppock might want to. Absolutely.
Be on that committee. There's nobody smarter than him when it comes to that.
Isn't he MS4 or something like that? Yeah, he's an MS4 and he's a water sewer engineer and he's been
consulting for the town for the last 30 some years so he knows land use and all the ordinances that
pertain to about everything about a town or a city.
I will move to table the appointments for water storm and wastewater We haven't done road and streets
I'm under my third sheet of motion. Sorry We're not gonna put roads and streets under that Tonight yes
Right now we've got a motion to table the water sewer and
or whatever you want to call it waste. Well, you made that motion. Yep. OK. Did we have a second? Kevin
seconded, didn't you, Kevin? Mm-hmm. Yes. Any public comment on that? Any comment from the board? OK.
Okay, so calling the roll on the tape on the motion to table the water storm sewer and wastewater
Appointments until next meeting. I vote. Yes, Kevin. Yes, Jerry. Yes, William. Yes, Don. Yes, Mike.
Yes motion passes Like I said, there's two on here, I believe there are two on the undetermined Are
there more To
13 today, but was not able to reach her. So I do not have a feel for what she had would have any preference
for it all. Road and streets. That may be something we're just a general. I mean, we do need some expertise
and the ones I nominated on here have that. But we might want members of the public to because there
may be some needs that they want to address or
concerns with the difference between the way they're being done now in the township and the way the
town does it, just from a public point of view. And just for the public, if we move the other two people
we're kinda talking about to this committee, everyone that applied will have gotten appointed. And I
think they can always decline it. But I think it's good to have
public bird's-eye view because sometimes when you're in the in it you're not maybe seeing some of the
minor things I wouldn't say minor maybe major to them that we may be able to address 13 and 15 onto
roads and streets yes
Preference they've they've stated their preference, but as a backup roads and streets, and I know we've
already Agreed to place them on public safety How's everybody feel about moving here or I guess they
could do both Talk to that person say here's what we recommended what we put you on and
and fill them out if they want to do the other one too. He said as a backup, if we can't find folks
that are willing to serve from the, you know, from the streets and water and sewer in place now that
they, you know, move them around and serve on both. I think that's very reasonable that when we notify
them that we say,
This is what you said was your primary interest. That's where we placed you. However, we are light on
people in the thing you expressed your backup interest in. Do you wanna stick with it or do you want
to move to the other subcommittee? I would agree. Okay. Okay, so are we ready for a motion on this one?
So we moved 13 and 15. Potentially 12.
our attorneys this, if any of these people say, you know, I've changed my mind or this isn't the committee
I want, do we have to make those moves at another public meeting as in remove them? Or can we, I understand
appointing someone new, we would probably need to have another public meeting. But if they say, look,
I just don't want to do this, are we able to just remove them? Because if not, they just won't show up.
I think if they just resign or send somebody a letter or an email saying, I don't want to serve, I think
that's fine, and appoint their replacement at a subsequent meeting. I make a motion for the roads and
streets to appoint Daniel Bittner, Roger Woods, Corina
Cosentino and Melissa stone and possibly Josh Yes Any public comment on these names for the parks and
I'm sorry roads and streets Roger woods Corina Cosentino and Melissa stone
All right, on the motion to place on the roads and streets subcommittee, Daniel Bittner, Roger Woods,
Corinna Cosentino, and Melissa Stone, I vote yes. Kevin? Yes. Jerry? Yes. William? Yes. Dawn? Yes.
And Mike? Yes. Motion passes. Well, we got our first subcommittees now tomorrow. We probably should,
can, are we able, we each need to reach out to these people, or I mean,
So I think each of us, we could divide which subcommittee to, is that administrative that we can, do
we have to decide that tonight at the public meeting or can we decide that amongst ourselves on contacting
them saying you were appointed? I think that's one of those administrative things you can decide among
yourselves. Okay. What are the general objectives for these committees?
What are the general objectives of these committees? Objections, objectives. My understanding again
based on the Sheridan plan and what I've looked at, they are to formulate a plan on a reorganization
merger between both to see kind of the nuts and bolts of it. What it would take to cover, I'll just
use roads and streets, what it would take financially manpower wise
to cover that entire footprint. Same with public safety, finance, but the finances would look like merging
the two because we'll have some savings because there's duplications of effort, but then there also
may be more, there will be more expenses because we have the public assistance. So they'll have to figure
out what extent
I mean, they could say, look, I recommend we need a public assistance office as an example. Well, that's
obviously gonna affect the final plan with the finances. So they've got to formulate a plan for their
section. That's my understanding. What's the timeframe? We really need to have this done by March or
April. I think we need to set a timeframe. I think we need to set a date. It said, get your stuff in
to this organization. Get us to this,
If you come up to the, and the reason I said March or April, again, this might be short, I bet there's
no, so we can adjust anything. Sure. My name is Diane Critchlow.
Well, who will determine the official objective of each of these subcommittees? Will the committee itself
determine it? Will you as a panel give them? Because I feel it's important for each subcommittee to
be effective and efficient in what is really a fairly short period of time before November. It will
need to be very clear what they are to do. I totally agree. I was going to make a suggestion.
There's a group going to Sheridan. Yes. Friday. Friday. I was going to suggest waiting till after that
conversation is held. And then at our next meeting, I have ready a list of duties and responsibilities
for each subcommittee that we would approve. You know what? Maybe this necessitates a meeting in between
next week.
because if we do it in two weeks from now, another meeting and we determine that, and then it's two
weeks from then before they've got everything, they've lost a month. Yeah, yeah, so as quick as we can
get over that, have another meeting next week to find everything. I'm for that, and I would also say
that though,
I would still think that tomorrow and Friday, as soon as we can, we contact these people so they can
give them all the information, the other committee members, so they can form when they're gonna meet.
They don't need to wait on the objectives to when they're gonna have their first meeting. Because we'll
have the objectives to inform, yes. Well, I think the objectives will help you fill your holes in the
subcommittees and the people that are there, if they know what they're signing up to do.
and if it's their area of expertise or not their area. I mean, I knew what I wanted to do, but if you
look for people with that skill set, it will make it easier and more effective too. They might wanna
move around. Right, and there's very few subcommittees we have with holes on them, but the ones that
do, all of them need a clear objective, because what we don't want is a, I mean,
We kind of know what we want, but we need to all agree this is what we want and get them on the same
page, because otherwise we're going to be spending six months going back and forth. And also the folks
that are already in place with the township and with the town, my understanding is they'll be available
to consult lead guide direct. They will, and I will. And I'd like to mention that this is not reinventing
the wheel. We have a template on all these.
where we're already actually going through the procedures and we have a plan and so it can be a template
that you can improve on or change like you want, but it's not like we're gonna have to start from scratch.
My opinion, it's more fact gathering. What's it gonna cost to buy this much salt for the roads for a
township versus a town or a township and a town?
I've been walking through with the department heads what we may or may not do for the committee. I said
we need to plan on being available if they want a 101 on what we do and why it costs what it costs and
maybe even a rundown of how many people there are and so I was going to offer at some point in this
meeting to
get a ride along or come in to get an overview of how it operates now. Maybe we even have a work session
where we kind of go through all the departments and it doesn't have to be long.
That's right, but I just we will be the town will be available for to answer the questions and the township
on You know, I don't know a lot about what the township does but I know some what they do just because
I interact with them so I think the information is already there the templates are in place and some
of the You know objectives is especially in a new formed
reorganized town, those things will be important, and that's where I think the subcommittees and the
committee will hatch out the new reorganized town. And we'll learn a lot Friday. Folks that's already
been through it, if you had it all over to do again, how would you do it different? How would you do
it better? How would you do it whatever? Bring that to the table, too. So the department heads and the
township officials do not report things to this board.
The township officials, the town departments do not report anything to this board. They go through the
subcommittees, correct? They could do both. I don't think so. I don't know what you mean by they don't
report. Nobody should be reporting directly to us. They go through their subcommittees, and that subcommittee
will then present things to this board. Oh, and that's, yes. In that sense, yes, yes. I want to make
sure that's, all right, so. Yeah, we don't want it to be helter skelter. Yeah, we can't do that. OK.
Bringing myself up to speed, someone mentioned March, we have a timeline? Yeah, that was just my thoughts.
Mike and Darla and Eric probably have a better feel for that. And I'm giving some room for us to,
I mean, no plan's usually perfect the first draft. And if I go by the experience for the UDO that we
did, there was some back and forth and fine tuning that we need to do.
if we get it March or early April, that gives us plenty of time to fine tune that before we submit it
to the state. Yes, Baker Tilley's timeline assumes that the reorganization plan will be prepared and
ready to be presented to the council and the township board by the end of May. So. That would be the
final plan to vote on, correct? Yes. Okay. I'm just a little hesitant. Go ahead, Diane.
Is will each subcommittee then have a chair and a spokesperson one would assume I? Mean I would think
and that will be determined by the subcommittee itself, or will you appoint one? What happened up north
yeah, okay? Yeah, that's it and we ask question. What do you want in the second little box on this piece
of paper? I'm gonna ask a question You're good. Yeah, thanks make sure I want to make sure that
I know we have timelines, but I also don't want to rush into anything. So I feel like we need to take
our time making sure these subcommittees that were organized, that they know what their task is, that
they get organized. I think it would be good to have a work session with each subcommittee before they
get started so they can ask questions, we can provide answers.
and I was kind of thinking it have all the subcommittees everybody that is on a subcommittee come and
we can have a work session in other words not just us the work session planning not just a work session
with finance but all of them is that kind of what you're thinking too that would probably yeah yeah
and if they have after we give the guidelines you come after we draft you know from
tomorrow's meeting, is it tomorrow? No, Friday's meeting in Sheridan. That way they have that to look
at as a template, but there's probably still gonna be questions. And this way we can answer them and
get those answers for them. But I do agree we need to also, and we can address this shortly, but we
need to meet next week to follow up with what was found out at Sheridan and get the guidelines
the board members that aren't able to go. Correct. And the woman I spoke with, former trustee at Sheridan
said that if after the meeting on Friday, it is something that we want, we can have specific meetings
with their street department, whatever, to get more specific details. And that might be something to
be good for the subcommittees to do too.
Switching lanes here. On the governance subcommittee, probably be a good idea to have representation
from Baker-Tilley involved with that. Well, I was thinking either that or our lawyers. I'm not sure.
I mean, what do you guys think? I thought because there'll be a lot of technicalities involved in that.
Is that their area of expertise though?
I don't think it is. Well, they seem to be well versed in most of it. They are. But again, I think it
would be maybe, so we don't have to do it twice, maybe it would be helpful if we had some lead from,
or had the ability to go to our lawyers and utilize them, especially in the government. We want to get
that right.
I guess that's something that you would work on. I would greatly prefer a lawyer and not necessarily
representative from Baker Tilly because the lawyers are going to be able to look at state code for the
governance. If it's not something that would be cumbersome for the lawyers, a recommendation for somebody
that maybe would be able to keep us within the state guidelines so that
it keeps it moving forward would be my recommendation as someone on the subcommittee that I would greatly
appreciate. I know there's a balancing act with when you're drawing districts, if I'm not mistaken,
I can't remember what it is, but you can't have 10,000 people in one and 200 in another. So we'd have
to be cognizant of where the population centers are or where people are and draw those boundaries
appropriate. And they also have to be by precinct lines.
So there's a lot of other things that. Do we have those kind of. A lot of it started getting set in
stone by state statute. And so some of the things you may decide, do you want a five member board? Do
you want a seven member board? What do you want? So, but at the end of the day, I think the governance
committee will be involved in setting up by statute, what we're gonna do, how many people we're gonna vote on.
and get it all in a form where we can report back to the bigger, the larger committee. And so I think
it's kind of pretty straight and narrow what we all have to do as far as governance, except for maybe
things like how many board members you want. Does that sound right? If I may just add my perception
of what the subcommittees are supposed to do, they report to you. They give you a report and then
the board makes the ultimate decision. So we're just giving the recommendations of everything that we
find. And so that's all I have to say about that, but. I think generally that's my impression. I mean,
even down to when you have your meetings in the future and how often, I mean, all those things, I don't
know that that statute, but those are the kind of things you might want to think about as well. I mean,
what we do now seems
pretty good, but maybe it's not. I mean, obviously Mr. Cook and I are happy to assist as requested,
but if the Tom Spencer is who I think it is, he is an attorney. Okay, so. And he used to be a town attorney.
He was, he was over in Owen County, and he's the former. Elitsville. Yeah, that's true, that was a long
time ago. He didn't have an attorney on the board. Mm-hmm. Or on the committee. So. Yeah, that's true,
yeah, Scott Ronald is an attorney too.
Tom is very, very, he'll do due diligence. He'll do all the, one thing that I'd, where are we getting
demographics from for the township? We pretty much know the town. Demographics for the township. Well,
I think we can be helpful. I mean, one of the things that you're gonna have to have some people do some
lifting for you and so I think
because the town is already set up, we have a network, we have crews, we have people in departments.
When you ask for something, if you'll, you can run them through me or go straight to the department
head, but I think it'd be better if you run it through me, just so we have some. I think he's talking
about the demographics on population. But we can find all that out. Yeah, I mean, it's. The demographics
that. How many households, how many. Right, the county recorder. What kind?
volunteered to help with that information with the GIS and overlays and anything else that we can. What
specifically in demographic are you talking about, just general? Yeah, general demographics. Remember,
everything that I do comes from a business standpoint. So I don't want to know how many households in
a one, three, and five mile area. You don't want to know that either. The Kelley School of Business
actually hosts the website for the Indiana version of the census, so it's easily obtainable.
I was on the website today, so. They'll have the mix of what the ages are. Yes, they have that. Okay.
We just need to be prepared to get the information. Household income, you know, all that kind of stuff.
I don't know if this is where you need it or not, but earlier when you were looking at people to fill
your subcommittees, someone made a comment about someone being on two subcommittees.
I would like to think that you certainly have a larger pool of people. I know that there are names that
you have not looked at that are on our pools. So I would strongly urge that you not put someone on two
committees. Not for their workload, but for the fact that then you have a much broader outlook with
this whole process. Valerie Dwar, sorry.
We talked about meeting next week. We talked about a work session. What's your pleasure? I think it
should be definitely a work session. Next week? Yeah, because I mean, our goal is to hash out the guidelines
and stuff. What's the parameters for the work session for posting it? Do you got to post it? Yes. OK.
I would suggest that you post it. It'll be 48 hours in advance. Yes. 48 hours, that's it.
It should be for the establishment of the objectives of the designated committees. Let's hash out what
we find out Friday. Well, the Friday thing will probably be a result of that. I may be getting confused
with executive sessions and work sessions, but one of them has to be focused. We have to specify what
we're, I know executive sessions you do, but work sessions the same way. I thought you kind of had to.
I typically advise
having an agenda and listing on your notice what you're going to talk about and I also suggest on the
work sessions that you say on the notice that no votes will be taken, no final decisions will be made,
that you're exchanging information or like when you heard your presentation from Baker Tilley back in
November, that was a work session I think is the way it was advertised. Well then the question is do
we want to make it just a general public meeting because we'll need to vote on this to get this to the
subcommittees.
The objectives? The objectives. Okay. Excuse me, William. I have a BCA meeting next Wednesday at six.
I don't think we've even discussed time. Okay. I just wanted to let you know. I appreciate it. That
was a question I was going to ask, so you read my mind. Unless you want to do it on Tuesday or Thursday
next week. I can't. Unless you want to do it on Tuesday or Thursday next week.
I'll be out of town until Wednesday. I cannot do Thursday, okay? Sorry. Who's going to, Sheridan? I
know you are, Dawn. Who else? Kevin? And Mike. And Mike, okay. And Kip. Okay, so just three board members,
just so we're clear. No, two. Two, okay, thank you. So one more board member could go and not constitute a quorum.
Let's just keep our next regular meeting and at that meeting come to decision on the objectives. Well,
we really have to get the objectives out because if we don't get the objectives out with the subcommittees,
they're gonna have nothing to do. I just don't think we're ready for a work session with the subcommittees.
No, not with them, but the objectives. We have to get the objectives to them first. Then that's when
I say step one is the work session to determine the objectives. And then better. Right. And I want to
make a recommendation that these are general in nature. Yes. I think these would be really, truly specific.
There's something that one of these things we think we should, but I think we've got to let the committee
develop their own inside to make it work for their committee.
make it on Tuesday or one of the other days, can you zoom in? Okay, I don't think they'd like another
screen. And we still need the two-day notice, so it definitely wouldn't be really, I'd say before Tuesday,
Wednesday.
Oh. Do we have the ROTC meeting? Yes. Okay, yeah, so we'll be booked up that day. Well, one other thing
we can do is Friday morning. Next Friday morning? Yeah. Or one of the mornings. No, why can't we do
Tuesday? Jerry won't be here. Dr. Sanders won't be here Tuesday. Okay. I am available Tuesday at the
13th and evening.
We still, I would be available too. How do you feel about that Jerry? Just coming up with the objectives
on Tuesday. When? Tuesday. Is that something that you want to be? No, that's fine. I could always look
at them. Yeah, we'll send them out internally for feedback. I mean, we can do that. And do it Tuesday,
sooner the better. Noel, did you want to say something?
or something, I know that the fire department has an excellent space, the DPW has an excellent space,
if we're just doing a work session, I just wanted to put that out to the board to remind them that there
are various spaces in the town that we could utilize to make sure that we keep moving forward and we're
not missing timelines due to overlap in meetings. You also have to consider, did those places, other
places have the option for the video? Yes.
I only recommend places that can be live streamed. Monday, I have both RDC and the council meetings,
but I'm confident enough this board, we're still gonna come up with something if I'm not here. I think
Tuesday, I think we had time, the people that went, we can bounce it back and forth, think about it
over the weekend, touch base if we need to with each other on Monday,
become armed on Tuesday? Mike, what do you think? Mr. Kornman, what do you think? How's Tuesday sound?
Walk time on Tuesday. That's, yeah, what time? Well, what do you think? I have a township meeting, a
seminar that I am attending from nine to four in Plainfield, so I will not be available until after.
Six or so? Yeah. Well, that's, it's Tuesday, a possibility for you.
Say yes or no. You should see my schedule. It doesn't really matter what day. Right. I'm giving you
an outfit. I know you are, but my schedule's crazy. I want to say six. Six, I think I can do six. Tuesday.
And if people can't make it, then we can always. So we'd have to post that. We'd have to post that tomorrow.
Is Mike, is town hall open next Tuesday? I mean, do we have anything else booked? I don't think so,
but we'll look. Noel and I will look, make sure that I'm pretty sure. Okay, because we need to get the
notice out tomorrow. We're good? Okay. We need to get the notice out tomorrow. Take care of that. Now,
with our attorneys, always the question of
what do you call the open door law, are we able to circulate drafts of our comments on this back and
forth or does the first time we see these things have to be at a public meeting because I guess I'm
saying they come back and take some notes, send it to us and one of us says, hey, here's my thoughts,
here's my ideas.
and then we can amend or change that at the meeting. How does this function? Because this is one of
the things we've been running into regularly. And complying with the open door law sounds easy, but
when you're dealing with minutiae like this, it's not as easy as, because if everybody sees it the very
first time, what they're gonna say is, well, I've had no time to look over this. I have no idea where
we stand with this.
So are we able to just not make any decisions on it? You know, not say this is, I'm voting this way.
How, I need some guidance on that, please. Well, my suggestion would be that the board handle it the
way probably the township board does it and the town council does it is you have a packet of materials
that circulates and is posted for the,
public if they wanna look at it and then you can discuss it among yourselves at the public meeting and
I have no problem with having looked at some public access counselor opinions this week. I would have
no problem with you exchanging some ideas one on one to add to that list or to add to the list of objectives
or recommendations so long as no final decision is made in an email.
I'm okay with somebody saying let's add this or let's add this for discussion as long as it does not
appear in the emails that you have come to a consensus. Because there's an exception under the open
door law for administrative tasks, day to day things, so I think that's fine. I just don't,
I guess I'm very, I don't want to say nervous, but this is so big I don't want anybody to think we're trying to
with the letter of the law, but not the spirit of it. But I don't think the public expects us every
meeting to say, okay, let's start this from scratch. No, and I don't think the public access counselor
would say that either. So I am happy to put together or start an outline of the objectives for the various
committees and get that to you this weekend or Monday.
That would be great. And just so you have something to look at and then we can incorporate at the meeting
any anything you know are you going to I forgot are you going you're not going to Sheridan are you okay
all right so we will be well represented and Dr. Sanders I know you just appointed tonight but Friday
since we have a slot now open you're welcome to go to to pick their brain
Two, actually, it's a two. They think we're coming up two. So you're gonna take care of the work session
and advertisement? Just so we're clear, we're meeting next Tuesday at six here at the town hall, and
the only thing on the agenda is to review the objectives for the subcommittees.
extra meeting or is it just consensus for good I Think you're fine. I think the public notice will take
care of that great All right, yes, ma'am I've lived here almost 40 years Where is your historical
preservation and archival is that gonna be under parks and rec since you have your cemeteries there and
That's a good question. I would say we'll take that under consideration. Right, okay. And kind of leave
that up to the subcommittees. Okay, so you would have a scope within your subcommittees that says you
shouldn't go any further than this, stay in this realm, or are you gonna open it for them to think about
those things? How would you like to serve on that subcommittee? Which one, Parks and Rec?
What is your concern budget to drill down so I can make sure that you're heard with historic preservation
in the sense of like not just I'll just throw an example out here not just tearing down our downtown
section or places in Richmond Township and building a shiny new thing is or what What's the when you
say historic present historical preservation? Well, they're broken down in different areas. So you have
your history, right?
Then you have your preservation, which preserves that. And then you have your archival. And so it helps
you to make your decisions. And because the minute you go to make a change to historical without the
public knowing that you're going to have an outcry. So I worked at IU for 50 years. And that's one of
the things that was huge, that we always preserved the history. And naming process.
You know, your buildings were named based on certain things, and you had to have that information there
before you announced it, because public always has a question, why are you choosing that person's name?
So we all know that, but, okay. Yeah, but his question stands. Would you like to serve? Sure. All right.
Sure, thank you. We need to do a motion or an amendment. So probably. So amending our motion
place on the parks, rec and cemeteries committee. And we would be adding, is it Roslyn Grossman? Ros
Grossman for the parks and rec? Okay. Oh, it's Gerstman. Gerstman. G-E-R-S-T. Thank you, ma'am. Make
a motion that we amend the subcommittee
parks, recreation, and cemeteries to add Rosgerst? Oh, is it Gerstmann? Gerstmann. I thought she just
spelled it. Second. Second. All right. Luke? Yes. Kevin? Yes. Jerry? Yes. William? Yes. Don? Yes. Mike?
Yes. I don't see an agenda, so are we finished?
Two other things I think that need to bring up, and it should be actually one thing we actually have
to decide on, but website update. Mike, I don't know if you saw the quote I sent to you. Okay. Do you
have any issues? That's fine. We have a quote for somebody to do the website and kind of a portal of
information, all-inclusive, and he'll manage it till November.
Subcontract with the person that you recommended. Yep, so he said he could have the website up in a
matter of days from the moment we signed the contract. And it comes in substantially cheaper than the
other quote we had gotten. Substantially cheaper, so we appreciate that. Yes, let's go ahead and put
that on the agenda for Tuesday. Okay, can someone forward me the contract?
we're having a work session. Well, maybe I misunderstood, but I thought you were going to vote, in which
case just make it a regular meeting. So we'll put that on there. He did not include a contract,
did he? You know what I remember, I saw the price. He did, okay.
Well, it was on the way here, so you probably haven't looked at it yet. And something else we may want
to add. Currently, I have our PR people working on the card that we'll send out to the county. And I
think content, we'll want to know what the committee wants for content and how the card looks and everything.
So we want to send something out that they'll notice, use, and send back.
website on that? Well, that's just it. Well, the website would be on the card. Well, that's just it,
but if we don't have the website yet, we can't send the card yet. At least the domain. It won't be ready,
but we ought to talk about it and what you want on the card. How soon will it be ready? I'll tell you
tomorrow. Okay, because. We have to figure out what we want on it. Yeah. How soon do you want it? Yesterday.
I always try to talk to you last week. I mean, realistically, to mail them out, because we're doing
meeting every two weeks, if we don't mail out tomorrow, it's going to miss the next meeting again on
that cutoff. Well, the only thing we wouldn't have is the website. But well, maybe they could go ahead
and get the
maybe we could go ahead and get the name or the site. We could claim the site and then we'd have that
and we could add it on. Okay, well I'll work on it and then I'll have an answer tomorrow afternoon.
But the language, let's decide what we want on there. Website for sure. You want that in a QR code or
an actual URL?
You can do a QR code, but you have to have a URL because there are people that don't know how to do
that. So that, all of our meeting dates up until
I would say April. Would you guys agree? All of our meeting dates until about April, or do you guys
think we should have until May? I mean, because a lot of the work's gonna come back to us where we have
to hash this out. I think May is good. Okay. And we can. Right. I think we talked to Sharon.
What's that? I think we talked to Sharon. Up to May, not including May.
Well, see, they, from what I understand, they did a postcard for every meeting two weeks in advance.
And we're already well behind that. We can't afford that anyway. That's Hamilton County money. And that's
work session week. Maybe it's time to start talking about some associated costs with all these activities.
Well, we're having a meeting, so. Pardon? We'll be able to approve or not approve.
Well, I mean, we can get general consensus so we can at least see a mock-up. I would say definitely
all of our contact information. When you say all of our contact, are you talking about a board? Yes,
a board. How big a card does this have to be? Are you talking about individual board members? I mean,
RPR people put this up. That's up there tonight. I ask them to put something up and put it out.
So I mean, you know,
So how big a card do you want and how much information do you want on it? Well, we need to kind of have
the mission statement for what we want to accomplish for the reorganization and add that to Tuesday
too. And that's something we can work on before Tuesday and have kind of a. And I would point out that
up till we started the committee and we got to this point,
there's been some activity by the town and some by the township to get people interested in what we're
doing. And we came out with a fact sheet and I think there was a couple other things we sent out that
had why we're doing what we're doing. So that should be reviewed and then we need to back off what you
really don't want to be part of that. But we have said things up till now about
the 30,000 view of what a reorganization would be. I don't think you can get that on the card, but when
you start talking about objectives, I think that we need to look at the, you know, we kept talking about
the template that Sheridan and Adam had. All that can be on the website and on the card, just a sentence
or two with the mission statement. Right.
Usually when I talk to our people I say we kind of want this and then they come up with something I
mean right I'm real clumsy sometimes with my words and then I tell them and then when they tell me what
I just said I'm like well I'm pretty smart so they can come up with something that that maybe would
you would pick or maybe we'll give you a couple three choices if you want
Yeah. Diane Critchlow had a great idea, too. We need to utilize it. This needs to be into the newsletter
for the chamber. And I can't remember. Diane, if you want to come up again, you suggested a couple of
things that were brilliant you could share with the group. I remember that one.
the chamber newsletter eric spoon moore's on the subcommittee so i think the bloomington chamber would
be appropriate just with the criteria that has to be richland township or the town of ellisville uh...
if you can give some ideas about what the expectation would be you don't have the objective but people
with a background in x y z uh... those things public service announcements on the radio
I told William today, people from Union Valley, Smith Pike, Curry Pike on, we don't come west all that
often. We go east, so we don't see Kevin's sign very often. And I talked to several people today, I
hate this microphone. Okay, thanks Mike. I talked to several people today that are in positions and
very interested in this, that knew nothing about two weeks ago,
or today, and would have applied to be on a subcommittee and knew nothing about it. So I think there's
massive lack of knowledge, probably more in the township than the town. And because the people in the
township don't pay that much attention to what happens at the town level, I think you've talked more
about it at the town level than
at the township level, so I would encourage any means. Social media, I look at Ellisville High Neighbor,
usually at least once a day, and I only saw it once. Now I don't think it's because it wasn't posted
more often, it's just guys, that scroll, I mean, you can post it 10 times a day and get different audiences
on that, and all of the other little Ellisville Facebook groups, as much as we often don't like them,
people do read them. Yeah, I was gonna say, you could probably,
go to town employees and Noel could give you 10 different little groups that from people from the communities
would look at. So because you do want to have massive, I am amazed there are not more people here tonight.
Totally amazed that and I'm amazed that you didn't have more people apply for the subcommittees because
this is huge.
like to serve on the subcommittees. Well, I've been doing that. Even now. But I'm one person. And just
one person. So just, you know, I don't think people have the understanding of what this encompasses.
It's only been one other, done one other time in our state. So it's not just an ordinance. It's actually
been done a few more times. Has it been done a few more times?
It's been several years since it's been done. Recent history is just the one time, yes. Okay, the one
and the recent, that people would have reference to, if nothing else, to go look at Sheridan, you know,
what is that? People are like, what is that? They're doing a mass annexation, and you know, people do
not understand what this is, but you do want massive input, and not just, you know, I think on those
subcommittees, it's important that people have a background, especially in the special ones that require
that, but have some general public
input into those two, to where people don't feel alienated and come back and say, oh yeah, it was the
same old, same old people. And I'm glad, I think Valerie said two people and one person on two different
committees, I think you would try to avoid that. So we cannot be accused again of the same old, same
old people doing the same old, same old things, if that makes sense. Okay, thanks.
brings up one of the questions I was going to ask we had a prompt for asking for more members for the
subcommittee that we could have sent out today and it was late today so I said I'd wait till the committee
was together and ask if they want.
want us to go ahead and send that out. And maybe we could, you know, the sub line could be, if you don't
want to be on a subcommittee, then please consider attending the meetings and we could put the meetings
on the prompt as well. And, you know, from here on out, we can do one or two a week and really step
up promoting this. But up until now, I was kind of waiting until the committee was together.
and i've tried not to get in front of the committee but we could do our PR can do do that and and and
address what dianne just talked about use that's a yeah okay website is
Do we envision that website being hosted on the town of Ellitsville page, or are we looking for a completely
standalone, independent thing? Say that again. Is the website going to be a completely independent standalone
page, not part of any existing Ellitsville government page or Richland Township? I think it should be.
Standalone. Yes. With links. With links. Hyperlinks from the chamber, the town. Links to everything.
Any question can be a hyperlink.
What do you guys think about the website Alexville Richland info.org? It's not a dot-com site. It's
a dot org I actually went ahead and already grabbed it a couple weeks ago just to have it in my back
pocket So it's a transferable domain that we could use and we could have the site built on that The
website potentially
I'm asking how people feel about the idea of Ellitsville Richland info. All one word, no dashes,
no dots, no punctuation. Ellitsvillerichlandinfo.org. I like it. It's simple. That's what it is. Yes.
All right. We decided everything, William. It's all set. I'm good with that. I trust you guys.
Do we need to put that to a vote? Yes. I make a motion. Yep. It would be to use. For our website.
Ellitsvillerichlandinfo.org. I make a motion that we get registered as Ellitsvillerichlandinfo.org.
I'll second. Okay. All right, we have a vote.
Is there any other discussion that we want to have? William was out of the room. I'm up to speed. OK,
cool. And now at least we can redirect that and put whatever else we need on that page at any point.
But that at least gives us a stable, comprehensible URL that could go on the postcard. Any questions
or comments from the public on that?
Easy enough to understand and share and communicate Alexville richlandinfo.org. Okay, I'm gonna call
the roll on the motion to use Alexville richlandinfo.org for the site. I vote. Yes. Kevin. Yes. Jerry.
Yes. William. Yes. Don. Yes. Mike. Yes. Motion passes.
Does that address everything, William? Well, I think so, other than, I would love for the cards to be
mailed out tomorrow, but I'd rather us do it right than spend thousands of dollars and find out we've
left something, yeah. And I just, my, my intensity, I just, I feel like we're, I,
I'm impatient, I'll just put it that way. But we've got to do this right and I just, I want to make
sure the subcommittees especially have the tools they need and every meeting we're gonna get
more information, we're gonna get better at this and by the time it's done, it's gonna be a well-oiled
machine. Okay, I want to thank the public for coming out tonight and we'll meet next Tuesday.
Got a motion to adjourn.