Would you please stand and we'll have a word of prayer and the thoughts of leaders. Father, we just
thank you for this beautiful day. I know we have rain and thunderstorms today, but every day is a beautiful
day. And we're just thankful for all the opportunities that you give us. Thank you for the opportunity
to make a difference in our community. And just pray the Lord that you'll bless this meeting tonight.
In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call. Roll call. Andrew Henry,
President William Ellis,
Present. Kevin Ferris. Present. Jerry Sanders. Present. Scott Reynolds. Present. Don Durnall. Present.
All present. All right. I know everybody's had a chance to look at the minutes, so do we have
any corrections? If not, can I have a motion to approve? So moved. Seconded. All right. We got that
taken care of. Moved by William. Seconded by Kevin.
Yes. Any discussion? All right, I'll call the roll to approve a few minutes from our March 4th meeting.
I vote yes. William? Yes. Kevin? Yes. Jerry? Yes. Scott? Yes. Dawn? Yes. Mike? Abstain. OK. Motion passes.
Go ahead. So public comment.
Does anybody have any public comment? I do. If you could come up here, please. And we want to hear what
you had to say, but we need everybody to kind of keep their comments to three minutes tonight because
we have hard stuff. OK. Thank you so much. My name is Lisa McCarchick. I live in Kelly Heights. And
I was here a few weeks ago. And one of the things that was talked about was
Trying to notify the community regarding the reorganization and so forth and I don't know what if anything
has been done since then but My neighbors and so forth that I know I know them from Bloomington I find
out oh I live in Alexville, too and those acquaintances Either have not
heard anything about it or anything they did find out, they found out in the local papers, didn't understand
and particularly said, I need that in layman's terms. And so there's that, I would just say that's still
out there. I apologize, I get really nervous talking like this.
What I have continued to try to educate myself about all this, and I'm learning that running a town
is very complicated. I congratulate you on the good work you've done. So whatever I say here, I'm going
to preface by saying based on my understanding.
I've when I find the Baker Tilly graphics and charts and numbers They don't tell me what I think most
taxpayers would want to know which is how is this going to affect my tax bill and I would hope that
We could come up with a specific formula Everybody knows what their tax bill looks like they know what
their house is assessed at they know how much they're paying and
There's a lot of information on the bill itself. And then we have beacon where we can look at our property
data. Can we come up with a formula that any taxpayer could look at that and figure out how much more,
if anything, they're going to pay for this reorganization? I don't think the things I've seen
are accurate. I think there's plenty of people that have houses valued at 250, 300,000 that are not
currently paying a full 1%. In property tax. So is it the case that their taxes are going to go up because
they're not at 1% is everybody's tax in Alex will going to go up to that maximum of 1%.
If that's the case, then for me living in Kelly Heights, I'm gonna be paying probably a couple hundred
dollars more in taxes and. What was your home assessed for about, you know? That's not important. I'm
basing it on the Baker-Tilley information. Are you looking at the most recent? I don't need to know
for myself. I would like to see. Are you looking at the most recent?
subcommittee reports because they have a theoretical $200,000 home or anybody above 220,000 in Alexville
would not see a tax increase. Why would that be though? Because they're at the caps. Not all of them.
If you go poking around on beacon, you will see properties assessed at 250,000 or even more that are
not paying a 1% tax bill.
So anyway, to move along, it would be nice to have a formula so people don't have to see where does
my property fit in these big ranges, like 200 to 300 or whatever. And they might have a false sense
that they're not gonna pay anymore. And on top of that with the vehicle cert tax, I think
the people in Ellitsville who can least afford it, it looks like they're gonna be paying the most for
this. So my overall thought is I think if we're going to join Richland and Ellitsville, everybody has
to have a stake in it. And again, based on my understanding, that stake is not,
equitable based based on what I can gather from the documents that are here and there around the Internet
pertaining to the reorganization. I think for one thing the debt that Alex bill has incurred for our
infrastructure. If we're going to extend services
that we currently have because we've incurred debt, then people in Richland need to buy into that debt,
in my opinion. Those services wouldn't exist if the town hadn't borrowed money to provide them. And
I think we have homeowners now that are not within the town limits that are receiving Ellsville water.
And I think we have some debt associated with our water. I don't know if that's true. That's what I
gathered. Those properties in my mind ought to be annexed so that everybody already in Alexville isn't
paying for the basis by which we can provide that water. Thank you.
We need to move on. All right. Well, why don't I submit? I had a few more things. Why don't I submit
them in writing to the emails? Can I meet you after the meeting? I'm sorry. One of the reasons I wanted
to talk now was that I can't stay. I can't stay. The email will be fine. That would be wonderful. I'll
write up something. And my hope is that we can put something really clear in and brief.
to distribute to everybody. I would like to talk with you personally. And what's your name, sir? I'm
Kevin Farris. OK. I've got a business card. Oh, that would be awesome. And I will say that I don't under,
with the property tax caps, I'm kind of unclear where you're saying they're not. This is because they're
taken from the gross deduction. They're going to change that a little differently. But the debt stays with.
The township has debt, we have debt, it stays with there, and the increase in taxes in the township
will be greater than what it is for the town. An example, $300,000 home enrichment township's gonna
see about a $173 tax increase where... I understand, I'm sorry to go on so long. But in the town of
Ellicottville,
You're looking at that $200,000 home, I think was like $73 to $75. So you're not going to pay hundreds
more. That is not on the radar view at all. We're going to move on. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Public
comments, we'll open it up again at the end if we have time. Right now, we're going to have a presentation
from Shelton Specialties on proposed voter district
Good evening, my name is David Shelton, Shelton Specialties LLC. I'm also currently the Knox County
clerk and basically I'm an election nerd. So I was contacted by your fair city town to create some new
district maps for the consolidation of Richland Township. Richland Township shows a total census population
currently of 15,098. How you figure up your population deviation, I'll give you a little bit of a
math lesson here, you would divide that number by five. And that target, that creates your target population,
what you want your population of each district to be. In this case, the target population per district
would be 3,019.6. Then you just start creating maps. You've got four different maps here. And if you
look at the one that has a 28% population deviations, probably the bottom one there, that was my starting
point. I looked at the maps.
trying to find one that was kind of aesthetically pleasing, not moving a whole lot of voters out of
their precinct, trying to decrease the amount of work. But when I did the math, that population deviation
was too high. So then you kind of went down to the 9% version. A little not as clean as pretty, but actually
I like that one. You see the breakdown for the districts and I just arbitrarily assign district numbers
to those. You're free to name them in reverse order as I have on these maps right there. But this one
population is down to 9%. So how you figure out the population deviation is you first, you know, divide
your map into districts. You take the highest populated district
Kind of lean back a little bit. Push it up. You take the highest populated district. You subtract the
number from the lowest populated district. You take that remainder and divide it by your target population
early little bit algebra. If you haven't used this as high school, don't feel bad. I hadn't either.
And that's how you figure out the population deviation when you're at the county or municipal level.
There's no set population deviation in state law. You have a rule of thumb.
When you do the redistricting on the higher levels, your congressional apportionment, you have to get
down to the person. With nine congressional districts in Indiana, eight of them have the exact same
population. One has one additional person. When you get to the state senate, the state rep districts,
one-tenth of 1%. So it's very precise. But luckily on the local level, we have a lot more wiggle room.
Like I said, rule of thumb, 10%.
Some counties, some communities are geographically challenged. They can't quite get down to that. If
you make a good faith effort, get it around 15% or under. We'll just call them election enthusiast groups,
your legal women voters, common cause. They will not file litigation if you made a good faith effort
to go down there. On these maps that you have in front of you, it may not be clear. You should see all
sorts of different irregular shapes
with numbers in there, those are called census blocks. Those are determined by the U.S. Census Bureau.
Those boundaries cannot be changed by us or by the state. You can't cut those and cross through them.
You have to abide by those boundaries. Some of them would be, you know, it looks like a block. It could
be a country field. It could be a long, skinny sliver along a railroad ride away. But those are the
boundaries that we have to work with.
So there's a little background on redistricting there. Again, got one down to 9%, then slight variations,
an option down to 6%, and I even got it down to 4.6%. I can keep on going and going and getting that
percentage lower, but then you start getting more irregular shapes or little what I call snaggletooths
going into other districts and such.
This, you can either vote to approve any of these or you can tell me to, I want something better. It's
totally up to you. But again, these districts, your council districts are based on population. It does
not reflect voter data whatsoever. Now, as you see on these maps, you have several squares and irregular
shapes in one color that are completely surrounded by another color.
What those are, those are non-contiguous precincts. Over the years, there have been different annexations
made where parts of Ellisville surrounds a part that's technically out in the county, out in rural,
you know, Richland County or so. So you're free, this body can establish your council districts. However,
to truly clean up these maps would require action by your county commissioners. Only your county
commissioners can establish
or reestablish precincts. I strongly and highly recommend that. I just wanted to, I was confused at
first, so I want to make sure that what I'm understanding is accurate and have you confirm it. When
I first looked at these maps, I'm like, there's no difference because I was looking at colors. But what
we're really looking at are the outline red lines that you've drawn on the maps. Correct.
proposed districts. And that makes a lot more sense. Okay. Once you approve a map, separate maps for
each district will be created and we'll work with Monroe County Election Department. We have the election
director, Kylie Farris, is here. She's highly capable. I think she'd be able to tolerate me long enough
to see this project through completion.
Any districts that you establish as this body would need to take effect basically immediately after
this November's election, just so we can move all the voters. With the designation of Ellisville as
a town, you do not have any residency requirements that you need to take into consideration. Basically,
you can register to vote in Ellisville, say next year, and then turn around and run for elected office
in that town. So we don't have any delay other than we need to do this after the election.
what uh that phrases question to clarify why we would not want to use today the same boundary as precincts
well with the consolidation you're going to be bringing a lot more people in there so new maps would
have to be created and another problem is from the maps that i've seen of your city districts they cross
those census block
Lines themselves. So there's no real way to give you an accurate population deviation because of those
cross census blocks and we were working on the Strictly the population deviation to make these okay,
correct. I think and and if we did get to the point like I started talking about Reprecincting,
you know, there's currently nine precincts and in Richland Township I'd recommend ten we do two precincts
per town council
district, and those are different numbers. We have to work with voter data for precincts. They can be
between 600 and 2,000 unless a precinct is its own district in itself, then you can go up to 2,300.
But as we identified earlier, each district's going to have a little over 3,000, so therefore we need
two precincts per district. We'll divide them up the best we can. That'll allow for potential expansion
and growth of people coming in.
And then also something to keep in mind, you'll only have to live with this map for about four years,
five years, until the next census comes out. And I should still be around to help you with that and
readdress it then. And that's in consideration that there's still one precinct that's actually in the
city of Bloomington, Richland Bloomington. Well, there's in the southwest corner of this map, there's
a little bit there. Yes. So, you know, ideally, you'd probably, when we create, if the commissioners
create a new precinct, 10, it'd just be Richland 10.
I personally like the 9% population deviation the best. It doesn't have any real profound cutouts. It's
under 10%. We're moving voters, but it's not, I mean, when we get to the re-precincting level, moving voters.
We can do a lot of this in the batch process. When we start moving one census block from one precinct
to the next, what the voter registration officials have to do, they have to do what's called manual
address range assignments. It gets a little tricky. With this, a lot of batch transfers makes it a lot
easier. And like I said, personally, I just like the 9% map the best. I feel it's the cleanest option for you.
Just out of curiosity, why do you like the 9% better than the 4.6%? So on the 4.6%, one of the biggest
things that I don't like, even though I drew the map this way, if you look at the yellow precinct...
towards the center of the page. D3? Yeah, well, actually, I'm looking at D2 and the D1 boundary area.
I have a carve-out, a big...
Rectangle it kind of gets one the next yes, and there's a little skinny sliver going down there You
know the the factors you want to consider when you're doing redistricting is compact Contiguous and
also you want to reflect community I don't think there's that much community variation here, too You
know if I'm splitting an ethic neighborhood in half, please let me know and I can adjust the maps But
I'm not aware of any for Ellisville so you know between all the maps the nine the the
6% in the 4.6, there's not a whole lot of great big changes. It's just, in my opinion, the 9% map is
the cleanest one of the bunch. I was looking at the 4.6 just because the parity is more equal. Yeah,
it is. The representation. It is, definitely. But as far as I can tell, it really is just that little block
That's the difference between the 4.6 and the 9%. And that does cut through a neighborhood, I think,
right there on Thomas, right off of Thomas on the west side. Any additional questions? Is there a way
that you can get these with,
where I can get to see the street names a little bit more. Yes, we can we can blow these up and superimpose
street data and such, but I know this is simply working with the census blocks. This is just a rough
right? Yeah, back and kind of a little bit above back of the napkin, but not quite official, right?
Yeah, it's interesting because as I'm looking at this, the difference between 9% and the 4.6% from a
geographical perspective is a lot less than
the difference between the 6% and either of those, because on the 6%, you've got, if I'm seeing it correctly,
you've got District 1 that sort of cuts up all the way up to 46 on the northeast side of it.
And kind of, and on both the 9 and the 4.6%, the D3 is really compact and captures the sort of center
of Ellisville.
Just my own observations, I'm kind of drawn to the 9% myself. Also, for a future, for a new map, we
also have one little section of corporate county limits already in New Boston County. We have a small
section to the north. It's already in the town limits. So don't see it on here. OK, I was unaware of
that part. It's a real small sliver, but I don't know if there's any residents in there or not. But
there's property there.
town limits in Bean Boston Township. Okay, so looking at these maps, can you tell me which color precinct
that would be contiguous to? Looks like it's between that... Mine's pink up here, I guess. Pink? Okay,
up there. That area right there, just to the north underneath the R, the I of Richland Township in that
area, so... And any idea how many people live in that area? Few. One. Okay, we got one person live there.
One person? Okay, that won't throw off the population deviation out there, then.
All right. At the moment. Okay. Yeah. There's future plans for that area out there. Industrial
or residential? Combination. Okay. Well, the census data that we have as of now, the 2020 census data
is the only data that we can use when you do the redistricting. So that's not going to change until
the next census and then we'll address it at that point in time.
Thank you. All right, thank you. Thank you. Is this something the committee would like to vote on tonight,
or do you want to see, or are you going to ask for more detail? I don't know what to think about it.
Yeah, I think I really got to look into it. I mean, I'm really, the 9% map is what I'm leaning towards,
because I don't necessarily like D1 getting into that area.
That is pretty much a subdivision of all people. So the 9% looks good to me. I'll be glad in 2030 so
we can be able to get all these little islands out. Right. Because the developments that are being developed
right now, like Christmas, you know, army farms, that's going to drastically change these numbers. Right.
We're meeting again next week, right? Yes, we are. So you are going to have a panel? Well, that's just
it. I will be here. I won't be here. So who will be here next week? I will be here. Scott will be here?
I will not be here. And Don won't be here? So next week. We can do more than one meeting the following
week and wake up for it.
I mean we've got to have this done by the end of the month and we're pushing the envelope. I will have
a board meeting on the 24th. School board meeting. So if we have no meeting on the 18th, Kevin, you're proposing
25th and then an additional meeting on the 23rd. Well the 23rd any time that week it doesn't have to
be Monday Tuesday Tuesdays and Thursdays are bad for me So that what about that Monday 23rd town council meeting
How about we do one on the 30th, and then do one our Wednesday of April 1st? That'd work for me.
That works. Works for me. Works for me. Works for me. I just want to clarify, what do we feel that we'll
need to, I mean, I don't mind having an extra meeting, but I just. I can't see getting a whole lot done tonight.
Okay, and then next week everybody's gone. There's a lot of work left to do. Yeah Scott my sense of
it is we have these maps that we need to review more closely We also just received finally our street
and road water sewer and stormwater subcommittee drafts Which we have to go through and discuss and
then we have to start putting together a draft document That's the size is all of them that's gonna
take time and I would rather have a
a meeting on the 30th and a meeting on the 1st, and be able to chunk those things up and say,
on the 30th, we're going to be focusing on this portion of it, and on the 1st, we're going to be focusing
on this portion of it. So we have a more focused meeting, and I'm not trying to cover a little bit of
everything in discussion. Well, we still have the 25th. Yes. We still have the meeting the 25th to make
sure that everybody concurs with... Okay, the 25th. Yeah, to make sure that everybody concurs with the
subcommittee findings.
And is there anything that, you know, let's start on like on the 25th, let's set part of the agenda
that discussion of we will focus on one or two subcommittee reports only and get those hammered out
and approved or not approved. And then we'll do that for each of the meetings that way.
If people wanna, if there's something, somebody's caught with the public safety, they can show up to
that meeting instead of having to show up to every meeting and hoping we discuss the public
safety subcommittee. What do you think about three, if we try to do three subcommittees? In one meeting?
In one meeting. I don't think we can on the 25th. No, why is that? Because we have that hard stop at 650.
That's what because I originally thought three two Why don't we go ahead and set the meetings now and
then talk amongst ourselves in the next week set the agenda and set the agenda Okay, and then And then
if there's if for instance if there's a subcommittee that everything there looks good Okay, like I can't imagine
This not looking good, right? Okay, then we can get that out of the way at the 25th and then do two
more. Okay, there's not a whole lot of people involved here. You see what I'm saying? Yep. And then,
but the ones that it looks like there's gonna be some dissension or whatever, then we can hammer that
out and do that one on the 30th. Whichever ones we expect to be most difficult, we front load so that
if we can't get through them,
We have another go at them. If we save any of the hard ones for the last meeting before the due date,
and they don't get closed, then we have a major problem. And how hard is, or how fast is the first?
If we had to do another meeting after that for whatever reason. I already spoke into Baker-Tilley, because
she, Paige Sansona told us she wanted a draft by the first, and I asked her if the second would be okay,
since we have a meeting on the first, and she said that it's probably okay. So, I mean, we could ask
her tonight
If, you know, even next week would be OK. Let's ask. Yeah. Since the first failsafe. In case. OK, so
meeting on the 25th, 30th. In the first. And April 1st. OK. Do we got to do a motion on that? Probably.
Do we really need to have a meeting? I think. Darla, do we need to have a motion on that?
I make a motion that we set the three dates, the 25th, the 30th, and the 1st as reorganization committee
meetings here, 6 o'clock. Okay, the motion is to have meetings on March 25th, March 30th, and April
1st in this room at 6 p.m. Any further discussion? Or is there a second? I'll second. I was giving somebody
else a chance.
You and I are already fighting over. Okay, so Kevin moved William seconded I vote. Yes, William. Yes,
Kevin. Yes, Jerry Scott Don Mike. Yes. Thank you motion passes Well, I know there was some discussion
about whether those of us who were here
this coming Wednesday would still have some sort of work session where we could receive public comment.
And we got clarification from Garland that we cannot. Okay. That if it is a public meeting, we have
to treat it as a meeting, and without a quorum, this group cannot meet. Thank you. That would not prevent
any of us who are in town and available from having any other kind of informational meeting privately.
So if people wanted to get it for coffee or head down to a brewery and have some burgers and talk about
reorganization. There's nothing wrong with that. So you commit that to three get together?
Party at Williams House. All right. We're going to move forward on the subcommittee report. We'll have
Kit come up first. Good evening. I'm Kit Petty, Public Works Director.
First off, I'd like to apologize that I didn't have this prepared for you at the last meeting that you
guys was trying to get them all together at. I'll just briefly go over this as fast as I can. There's
really not a whole lot to talk about really with this. On the street, I'll start with the street and
the road maintenance. I included the map in this so you guys get the generalization of where all the
roads are at.
It's kind of hard to see, but they're all in yellow. The township has roughly 81 miles in the township.
The town of Ellsville has roughly 32. We've probably got 35, but I need to get them registered with
the state so we get our revenue with that. So that's the process of getting our money for the roads.
Of the 81, what I
personally looked at and deeming as urban, which would be like curb and gutter areas, would be like
your subdivisions, not with naming all of them, but, you know, the close ones to Eltsville would be
like Woodgate, you know, Autumn Hills, Autumn Grove. I kind of deem them would be the urbanized area
of the new reorganization. And of course, it goes to the east and to the south going towards Highway
48. That's more of an urban area too as well.
So just doing the math, when we were to organize, it would bring us up to about roughly 116 miles of
center lane miles for the reorganized area. So just to briefly go over the operational notes, the utilities
and street are presented as separate subcommittees
for reports, but for planning purposes, but the day-to-day operations of the town of Oldsville with
the public works is we're one unit. We're sewer, water, streets, and storm water. It helps us utilize
manpower, a lot more manpower for kind of the less cost, I guess you could say in a way, because what
we do is the salaries are paid
Mike might have to help me with this a little bit. They're paid one third. It's one third sewer, one
third water, one third MVH. Well, that gives me the opportunity to pull one guy from virtually working
on water lines to working on streets. Street guy can go work on water lines, go work on wastewater like
that. Right now, storm water is in a unit itself. Right now, we've got one employee, the town does,
in storm water.
The report covers the street department services road maintenance for the proposed reorganization of
Richland Township and the town of Ellsville. Kind of go a little forward. There's a lot of services
that the town provides right now for the residents of the town of Ellsville. One of them is the residential
brush and leaf programs in the interim
year of this brush and leaf pickup would be still probably limited to the town or the urbanized areas
for the time being until the reorganized board comes together and they set what they want for what surfaces
for what you want versus rural or urban area. The reorganization plan anticipates
Like I said, two service areas, maybe a town district, maybe a rural district as well. Even though two
service areas are planning, the goal is one community with coordinated, consistent public works services.
Also, we would still confirm and operate under existing MOU agreements that we would have with the county
or any other organization as far as streets.
snow support. The town manager and myself, I don't know if he mentioned to you at the last meeting,
but me and him met with the Monroe County Highway Director, Lisa Ridge, and the superintendent of highways,
Toby Turner. It was a very well meeting that we had together. We had entertained maybe a possible interlocal
agreement. They weren't really interested in that.
because of when the town and the township becomes reorganized, that funding will come to us.
The MVH funding, the local roads and streets, which is the gas tax, that will come to us. So if we even
wanted to entertain of the county, because the county still does, they do good work with the roads in
Britson Township. They are good roads.
we would have to do interlocal agreement with them and then reimburse them back the money. And they're
not even interested in doing that. And I was fine with it. The town manager was fine with it. So right
now I've worked at an interlocal agreement back whenever Danny Stockup was still street commissioner
at the time, because there's a lot of segments of roads that's been annexed into the town that half
of the road is
and the other end of the road is in the county. So it didn't make sense for my guys to plow that section,
lift or plow and go on. So we took all them mileage areas and added them to one road. So now the town
of Elstville, we plow all of Starnes Road from Flatwoods to Reeves, all of Reeves in the town. And that
takes care of the other segments that the county plows that we have little bit of areas of.
So when we reorganize, there will be some roads that will go outside of the township. And I'm sure I
can work, we can work with Monroe County that we would take care of that road to the end of it and work
work an MOU that away. I mean, one good example is like Lost Man's Lane. Lost Man's Lane still has road
that goes on in to Bloomington Township and stops at the Richland Township line. So it would make no
sense for us to stop at their plows, turn around and go back. So that's something we can work on too
in the future with Monroe County. Staffing and outsourcing approach. With the money that we have,
all of the money. The revenue we are looking at, anticipating to get, I should be able to put two more
guys on staff with reorganization out of the NVH. And like I explained to you earlier with us doing
the DPW, them two guys could probably give me at least maybe one more guy that would be part of the
sewer and water part with it. I have
And I've talked with the town manager of the possibility of outsourcing like some of these subdivisions.
I know that the Sheridan plan, I don't know if it was in their plan, but I think they talked about it
and I think they maybe ended up doing it. But they had some contractors came in and did snow removal
in some of the subdivisions. So that's an option that I'm kinda looking at too as well. But with the
numbers that I'm looking at, I'm confident that I could probably
have the staffing to be able to take care of it. So with the funding, the grants and the cost management
of all this, like I said earlier, the finance subcommittee summary, the street maintenance and public
works operation expenses are shown at my current budget for this year was right around $994,000. With
the budget and the organization,
add another 533,797 and 14 cents. So that would make my budget roughly 1.5 million is what it would
be. So that funding comes from NVH, like I said, gas tax, the wheel tax, sir tax, and all that actually
is being taken away from the county and coming to us. So these taxpayers will not be getting
taxed anything extra for this. The county won't be getting the money for this. It will come to the town.
And so it does not have any effect on what you guys are trying to do with your portion on that. Does
that money come... I'm sorry to interrupt you, but does that money come the first year? So if this passes
in November, does that hit January 1st? No. It'd be like June? Yeah. It'd be June. The whole amount
or half of it? Half of it. Half of it, okay.
The town, I think we've discussed this to town that may have enough coffers that we could be able to
support this until that comes in. Don't hold me to that, but I'm thinking that's a possibility. Now,
the storm water, when I get to that, that would be a totally different thing. So basically that's it
in a nutshell there. I got a little bit of our capital equipment we got at the end of it so you can
see what we got.
We'll probably need just a couple of dump trucks, you know, and the staffing. We do have some equipment
that we can do a lot of this stuff on our own still, but there will be some equipment that I'll need
to purchase out of capital, capital purchasing. So, and that would be in my budgeted lines is where
that would be that. So if you guys got any more questions with that, I'll just. I'm sorry. So that 533,000,
Yes, sir. Is that the first year or is that half of that amount the first year? No, that's what my budget
will go up to. That's not my distribution. That's not the distribution is what that is. That's what
my budget will... So that's not what we're capturing if it happens? Well, yeah, we'll capture that.
But only half of it's the first year? It'd be the 1.5 is what we get.
half of the first year. Is that correct? Yes, it'd be the same for all departments. Yes, it'd be the
same for all. Yes, exactly. It'd be the same for all departments is what it'll be. But this is not general
fund. This is totally different. This is just from NVH taxing. And I think that's partly from property
tax and the gas tax, which is the local roads and streets. Wheel tax.
and in the will tax, yes. And that's another thing. The will tax will come with that too as well, is
like what the town has as well. So. And that we will get more immediately. We will probably start getting,
we would be getting that towards beginning February next year. Yes, exactly. So stormwater,
I know Mike, I don't know if he emailed everybody. I think Mike sent something out to some of you. I'm
not sure if all I've got here. I can get that to you later. Basically what he had said is pretty well
I have in here. Stormwater is just a utility itself. The township, I believe, is roughly
There's roughly 6,500 homes, I'd say, residential. That's not including your commercial, anything like
that. And the county has their, I got ahead of myself here. So let me back up here.
This report covers the water sewer in a storm for purpose of reorganization. There's different providers
in the township. There's Eastern Richland Sewer Corporation, of course the town of Eltsville in the
town. On the water side, there's Patrick Berg, or Beanblossom Patrick Berg on the west side.
Van Buren water on the south side, City of Bloomington on the east side. And they're all, all that will
stay the same. None of that will change. And then we get to the stormwater. All that stormwater funding
should come to us. It will be up to the board on how they want that to be billed. I mean, you guys will
work all that out. My personal, where I live at,
I pay $75.77 a year for my stormwater where I live at as well. That's for the county, and that comes
to about $6.31 per month. And the town residence is set at $7 a month is what there are right now currently.
So that would be something to the board whenever they get together to look at how you want to adjust
that or what you want to do with that.
Now that's just residential. That's just residential only for the commercial. We got commercial and
that's a whole lot. That's a whole lot. There's a lot more impervious areas for that. I hate to cut
you off. Yes, I'm sorry. So but that was just a quick overview. If you guys got any more questions,
shoot me an email or I can help you out with anything you need. Do we have any other subcommittee reports?
That's it.
Anybody else from the community? You literally have three minutes. Kyle, did you want to say anything
as election supervisor? OK. Say something. Any discussion among the committee real quick?
We'll have some additional questions, but I'm looking forward to us getting very clear and aggressive
agendas set for the next three meetings. So we have an opportunity to work on the things we have to
come prepared to discuss to those meetings and do all of our fact finding ahead of time to have a shot
at getting this done in time. Expect a lot of emails. Yeah, and we're allowed to do that, right, Darla?
We can email agenda administrative stuff. Back and forth asking each other questions. Administrative
type things.
We just can't say this report, we're approving it when we get to it. All right. Motion to adjourn.
So moved. Second. It is concluded. Thank you.