- Would you please stand and we'll have a word of prayer and the thoughts of leaders. Father, we just
- thank you for this beautiful day. I know we have rain and thunderstorms today, but every day is a beautiful
- day. And we're just thankful for all the opportunities that you give us. Thank you for the opportunity
- to make a difference in our community. And just pray the Lord that you'll bless this meeting tonight.
- In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
- Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands,
- one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call. Roll call. Andrew Henry,
- President William Ellis,
- Present. Kevin Ferris. Present. Jerry Sanders. Present. Scott Reynolds. Present. Don Durnall. Present.
- All present. All right. I know everybody's had a chance to look at the minutes, so do we have
- any corrections? If not, can I have a motion to approve? So moved. Seconded. All right. We got that
- taken care of. Moved by William. Seconded by Kevin.
- Yes. Any discussion? All right, I'll call the roll to approve a few minutes from our March 4th meeting.
- I vote yes. William? Yes. Kevin? Yes. Jerry? Yes. Scott? Yes. Dawn? Yes. Mike? Abstain. OK. Motion passes.
- Go ahead. So public comment.
- Does anybody have any public comment? I do. If you could come up here, please. And we want to hear what
- you had to say, but we need everybody to kind of keep their comments to three minutes tonight because
- we have hard stuff. OK. Thank you so much. My name is Lisa McCarchick. I live in Kelly Heights. And
- I was here a few weeks ago. And one of the things that was talked about was
- Trying to notify the community regarding the reorganization and so forth and I don't know what if anything
- has been done since then but My neighbors and so forth that I know I know them from Bloomington I find
- out oh I live in Alexville, too and those acquaintances Either have not
- heard anything about it or anything they did find out, they found out in the local papers, didn't understand
- and particularly said, I need that in layman's terms. And so there's that, I would just say that's still
- out there. I apologize, I get really nervous talking like this.
- What I have continued to try to educate myself about all this, and I'm learning that running a town
- is very complicated. I congratulate you on the good work you've done. So whatever I say here, I'm going
- to preface by saying based on my understanding.
- I've when I find the Baker Tilly graphics and charts and numbers They don't tell me what I think most
- taxpayers would want to know which is how is this going to affect my tax bill and I would hope that
- We could come up with a specific formula Everybody knows what their tax bill looks like they know what
- their house is assessed at they know how much they're paying and
- There's a lot of information on the bill itself. And then we have beacon where we can look at our property
- data. Can we come up with a formula that any taxpayer could look at that and figure out how much more,
- if anything, they're going to pay for this reorganization? I don't think the things I've seen
- are accurate. I think there's plenty of people that have houses valued at 250, 300,000 that are not
- currently paying a full 1%. In property tax. So is it the case that their taxes are going to go up because
- they're not at 1% is everybody's tax in Alex will going to go up to that maximum of 1%.
- If that's the case, then for me living in Kelly Heights, I'm gonna be paying probably a couple hundred
- dollars more in taxes and. What was your home assessed for about, you know? That's not important. I'm
- basing it on the Baker-Tilley information. Are you looking at the most recent? I don't need to know
- for myself. I would like to see. Are you looking at the most recent?
- subcommittee reports because they have a theoretical $200,000 home or anybody above 220,000 in Alexville
- would not see a tax increase. Why would that be though? Because they're at the caps. Not all of them.
- If you go poking around on beacon, you will see properties assessed at 250,000 or even more that are
- not paying a 1% tax bill.
- So anyway, to move along, it would be nice to have a formula so people don't have to see where does
- my property fit in these big ranges, like 200 to 300 or whatever. And they might have a false sense
- that they're not gonna pay anymore. And on top of that with the vehicle cert tax, I think
- the people in Ellitsville who can least afford it, it looks like they're gonna be paying the most for
- this. So my overall thought is I think if we're going to join Richland and Ellitsville, everybody has
- to have a stake in it. And again, based on my understanding, that stake is not,
- equitable based based on what I can gather from the documents that are here and there around the Internet
- pertaining to the reorganization. I think for one thing the debt that Alex bill has incurred for our
- infrastructure. If we're going to extend services
- that we currently have because we've incurred debt, then people in Richland need to buy into that debt,
- in my opinion. Those services wouldn't exist if the town hadn't borrowed money to provide them. And
- I think we have homeowners now that are not within the town limits that are receiving Ellsville water.
- And I think we have some debt associated with our water. I don't know if that's true. That's what I
- gathered. Those properties in my mind ought to be annexed so that everybody already in Alexville isn't
- paying for the basis by which we can provide that water. Thank you.
- We need to move on. All right. Well, why don't I submit? I had a few more things. Why don't I submit
- them in writing to the emails? Can I meet you after the meeting? I'm sorry. One of the reasons I wanted
- to talk now was that I can't stay. I can't stay. The email will be fine. That would be wonderful. I'll
- write up something. And my hope is that we can put something really clear in and brief.
- to distribute to everybody. I would like to talk with you personally. And what's your name, sir? I'm
- Kevin Farris. OK. I've got a business card. Oh, that would be awesome. And I will say that I don't under,
- with the property tax caps, I'm kind of unclear where you're saying they're not. This is because they're
- taken from the gross deduction. They're going to change that a little differently. But the debt stays with.
- The township has debt, we have debt, it stays with there, and the increase in taxes in the township
- will be greater than what it is for the town. An example, $300,000 home enrichment township's gonna
- see about a $173 tax increase where... I understand, I'm sorry to go on so long. But in the town of
- Ellicottville,
- You're looking at that $200,000 home, I think was like $73 to $75. So you're not going to pay hundreds
- more. That is not on the radar view at all. We're going to move on. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Public
- comments, we'll open it up again at the end if we have time. Right now, we're going to have a presentation
- from Shelton Specialties on proposed voter district
- Good evening, my name is David Shelton, Shelton Specialties LLC. I'm also currently the Knox County
- clerk and basically I'm an election nerd. So I was contacted by your fair city town to create some new
- district maps for the consolidation of Richland Township. Richland Township shows a total census population
- currently of 15,098. How you figure up your population deviation, I'll give you a little bit of a
- math lesson here, you would divide that number by five. And that target, that creates your target population,
- what you want your population of each district to be. In this case, the target population per district
- would be 3,019.6. Then you just start creating maps. You've got four different maps here. And if you
- look at the one that has a 28% population deviations, probably the bottom one there, that was my starting
- point. I looked at the maps.
- trying to find one that was kind of aesthetically pleasing, not moving a whole lot of voters out of
- their precinct, trying to decrease the amount of work. But when I did the math, that population deviation
- was too high. So then you kind of went down to the 9% version. A little not as clean as pretty, but actually
- I like that one. You see the breakdown for the districts and I just arbitrarily assign district numbers
- to those. You're free to name them in reverse order as I have on these maps right there. But this one
- population is down to 9%. So how you figure out the population deviation is you first, you know, divide
- your map into districts. You take the highest populated district
- Kind of lean back a little bit. Push it up. You take the highest populated district. You subtract the
- number from the lowest populated district. You take that remainder and divide it by your target population
- early little bit algebra. If you haven't used this as high school, don't feel bad. I hadn't either.
- And that's how you figure out the population deviation when you're at the county or municipal level.
- There's no set population deviation in state law. You have a rule of thumb.
- When you do the redistricting on the higher levels, your congressional apportionment, you have to get
- down to the person. With nine congressional districts in Indiana, eight of them have the exact same
- population. One has one additional person. When you get to the state senate, the state rep districts,
- one-tenth of 1%. So it's very precise. But luckily on the local level, we have a lot more wiggle room.
- Like I said, rule of thumb, 10%.
- Some counties, some communities are geographically challenged. They can't quite get down to that. If
- you make a good faith effort, get it around 15% or under. We'll just call them election enthusiast groups,
- your legal women voters, common cause. They will not file litigation if you made a good faith effort
- to go down there. On these maps that you have in front of you, it may not be clear. You should see all
- sorts of different irregular shapes
- with numbers in there, those are called census blocks. Those are determined by the U.S. Census Bureau.
- Those boundaries cannot be changed by us or by the state. You can't cut those and cross through them.
- You have to abide by those boundaries. Some of them would be, you know, it looks like a block. It could
- be a country field. It could be a long, skinny sliver along a railroad ride away. But those are the
- boundaries that we have to work with.
- So there's a little background on redistricting there. Again, got one down to 9%, then slight variations,
- an option down to 6%, and I even got it down to 4.6%. I can keep on going and going and getting that
- percentage lower, but then you start getting more irregular shapes or little what I call snaggletooths
- going into other districts and such.
- This, you can either vote to approve any of these or you can tell me to, I want something better. It's
- totally up to you. But again, these districts, your council districts are based on population. It does
- not reflect voter data whatsoever. Now, as you see on these maps, you have several squares and irregular
- shapes in one color that are completely surrounded by another color.
- What those are, those are non-contiguous precincts. Over the years, there have been different annexations
- made where parts of Ellisville surrounds a part that's technically out in the county, out in rural,
- you know, Richland County or so. So you're free, this body can establish your council districts. However,
- to truly clean up these maps would require action by your county commissioners. Only your county
- commissioners can establish
- or reestablish precincts. I strongly and highly recommend that. I just wanted to, I was confused at
- first, so I want to make sure that what I'm understanding is accurate and have you confirm it. When
- I first looked at these maps, I'm like, there's no difference because I was looking at colors. But what
- we're really looking at are the outline red lines that you've drawn on the maps. Correct.
- proposed districts. And that makes a lot more sense. Okay. Once you approve a map, separate maps for
- each district will be created and we'll work with Monroe County Election Department. We have the election
- director, Kylie Farris, is here. She's highly capable. I think she'd be able to tolerate me long enough
- to see this project through completion.
- Any districts that you establish as this body would need to take effect basically immediately after
- this November's election, just so we can move all the voters. With the designation of Ellisville as
- a town, you do not have any residency requirements that you need to take into consideration. Basically,
- you can register to vote in Ellisville, say next year, and then turn around and run for elected office
- in that town. So we don't have any delay other than we need to do this after the election.
- what uh that phrases question to clarify why we would not want to use today the same boundary as precincts
- well with the consolidation you're going to be bringing a lot more people in there so new maps would
- have to be created and another problem is from the maps that i've seen of your city districts they cross
- those census block
- Lines themselves. So there's no real way to give you an accurate population deviation because of those
- cross census blocks and we were working on the Strictly the population deviation to make these okay,
- correct. I think and and if we did get to the point like I started talking about Reprecincting,
- you know, there's currently nine precincts and in Richland Township I'd recommend ten we do two precincts
- per town council
- district, and those are different numbers. We have to work with voter data for precincts. They can be
- between 600 and 2,000 unless a precinct is its own district in itself, then you can go up to 2,300.
- But as we identified earlier, each district's going to have a little over 3,000, so therefore we need
- two precincts per district. We'll divide them up the best we can. That'll allow for potential expansion
- and growth of people coming in.
- And then also something to keep in mind, you'll only have to live with this map for about four years,
- five years, until the next census comes out. And I should still be around to help you with that and
- readdress it then. And that's in consideration that there's still one precinct that's actually in the
- city of Bloomington, Richland Bloomington. Well, there's in the southwest corner of this map, there's
- a little bit there. Yes. So, you know, ideally, you'd probably, when we create, if the commissioners
- create a new precinct, 10, it'd just be Richland 10.
- I personally like the 9% population deviation the best. It doesn't have any real profound cutouts. It's
- under 10%. We're moving voters, but it's not, I mean, when we get to the re-precincting level, moving voters.
- We can do a lot of this in the batch process. When we start moving one census block from one precinct
- to the next, what the voter registration officials have to do, they have to do what's called manual
- address range assignments. It gets a little tricky. With this, a lot of batch transfers makes it a lot
- easier. And like I said, personally, I just like the 9% map the best. I feel it's the cleanest option for you.
- Just out of curiosity, why do you like the 9% better than the 4.6%? So on the 4.6%, one of the biggest
- things that I don't like, even though I drew the map this way, if you look at the yellow precinct...
- towards the center of the page. D3? Yeah, well, actually, I'm looking at D2 and the D1 boundary area.
- I have a carve-out, a big...
- Rectangle it kind of gets one the next yes, and there's a little skinny sliver going down there You
- know the the factors you want to consider when you're doing redistricting is compact Contiguous and
- also you want to reflect community I don't think there's that much community variation here, too You
- know if I'm splitting an ethic neighborhood in half, please let me know and I can adjust the maps But
- I'm not aware of any for Ellisville so you know between all the maps the nine the the
- 6% in the 4.6, there's not a whole lot of great big changes. It's just, in my opinion, the 9% map is
- the cleanest one of the bunch. I was looking at the 4.6 just because the parity is more equal. Yeah,
- it is. The representation. It is, definitely. But as far as I can tell, it really is just that little block
- That's the difference between the 4.6 and the 9%. And that does cut through a neighborhood, I think,
- right there on Thomas, right off of Thomas on the west side. Any additional questions? Is there a way
- that you can get these with,
- where I can get to see the street names a little bit more. Yes, we can we can blow these up and superimpose
- street data and such, but I know this is simply working with the census blocks. This is just a rough
- right? Yeah, back and kind of a little bit above back of the napkin, but not quite official, right?
- Yeah, it's interesting because as I'm looking at this, the difference between 9% and the 4.6% from a
- geographical perspective is a lot less than
- the difference between the 6% and either of those, because on the 6%, you've got, if I'm seeing it correctly,
- you've got District 1 that sort of cuts up all the way up to 46 on the northeast side of it.
- And kind of, and on both the 9 and the 4.6%, the D3 is really compact and captures the sort of center
- of Ellisville.
- Just my own observations, I'm kind of drawn to the 9% myself. Also, for a future, for a new map, we
- also have one little section of corporate county limits already in New Boston County. We have a small
- section to the north. It's already in the town limits. So don't see it on here. OK, I was unaware of
- that part. It's a real small sliver, but I don't know if there's any residents in there or not. But
- there's property there.
- town limits in Bean Boston Township. Okay, so looking at these maps, can you tell me which color precinct
- that would be contiguous to? Looks like it's between that... Mine's pink up here, I guess. Pink? Okay,
- up there. That area right there, just to the north underneath the R, the I of Richland Township in that
- area, so... And any idea how many people live in that area? Few. One. Okay, we got one person live there.
- One person? Okay, that won't throw off the population deviation out there, then.
- All right. At the moment. Okay. Yeah. There's future plans for that area out there. Industrial
- or residential? Combination. Okay. Well, the census data that we have as of now, the 2020 census data
- is the only data that we can use when you do the redistricting. So that's not going to change until
- the next census and then we'll address it at that point in time.
- Thank you. All right, thank you. Thank you. Is this something the committee would like to vote on tonight,
- or do you want to see, or are you going to ask for more detail? I don't know what to think about it.
- Yeah, I think I really got to look into it. I mean, I'm really, the 9% map is what I'm leaning towards,
- because I don't necessarily like D1 getting into that area.
- That is pretty much a subdivision of all people. So the 9% looks good to me. I'll be glad in 2030 so
- we can be able to get all these little islands out. Right. Because the developments that are being developed
- right now, like Christmas, you know, army farms, that's going to drastically change these numbers. Right.
- We're meeting again next week, right? Yes, we are. So you are going to have a panel? Well, that's just
- it. I will be here. I won't be here. So who will be here next week? I will be here. Scott will be here?
- I will not be here. And Don won't be here? So next week. We can do more than one meeting the following
- week and wake up for it.
- I mean we've got to have this done by the end of the month and we're pushing the envelope. I will have
- a board meeting on the 24th. School board meeting. So if we have no meeting on the 18th, Kevin, you're proposing
- 25th and then an additional meeting on the 23rd. Well the 23rd any time that week it doesn't have to
- be Monday Tuesday Tuesdays and Thursdays are bad for me So that what about that Monday 23rd town council meeting
- How about we do one on the 30th, and then do one our Wednesday of April 1st? That'd work for me.
- That works. Works for me. Works for me. Works for me. I just want to clarify, what do we feel that we'll
- need to, I mean, I don't mind having an extra meeting, but I just. I can't see getting a whole lot done tonight.
- Okay, and then next week everybody's gone. There's a lot of work left to do. Yeah Scott my sense of
- it is we have these maps that we need to review more closely We also just received finally our street
- and road water sewer and stormwater subcommittee drafts Which we have to go through and discuss and
- then we have to start putting together a draft document That's the size is all of them that's gonna
- take time and I would rather have a
- a meeting on the 30th and a meeting on the 1st, and be able to chunk those things up and say,
- on the 30th, we're going to be focusing on this portion of it, and on the 1st, we're going to be focusing
- on this portion of it. So we have a more focused meeting, and I'm not trying to cover a little bit of
- everything in discussion. Well, we still have the 25th. Yes. We still have the meeting the 25th to make
- sure that everybody concurs with... Okay, the 25th. Yeah, to make sure that everybody concurs with the
- subcommittee findings.
- And is there anything that, you know, let's start on like on the 25th, let's set part of the agenda
- that discussion of we will focus on one or two subcommittee reports only and get those hammered out
- and approved or not approved. And then we'll do that for each of the meetings that way.
- If people wanna, if there's something, somebody's caught with the public safety, they can show up to
- that meeting instead of having to show up to every meeting and hoping we discuss the public
- safety subcommittee. What do you think about three, if we try to do three subcommittees? In one meeting?
- In one meeting. I don't think we can on the 25th. No, why is that? Because we have that hard stop at 650.
- That's what because I originally thought three two Why don't we go ahead and set the meetings now and
- then talk amongst ourselves in the next week set the agenda and set the agenda Okay, and then And then
- if there's if for instance if there's a subcommittee that everything there looks good Okay, like I can't imagine
- This not looking good, right? Okay, then we can get that out of the way at the 25th and then do two
- more. Okay, there's not a whole lot of people involved here. You see what I'm saying? Yep. And then,
- but the ones that it looks like there's gonna be some dissension or whatever, then we can hammer that
- out and do that one on the 30th. Whichever ones we expect to be most difficult, we front load so that
- if we can't get through them,
- We have another go at them. If we save any of the hard ones for the last meeting before the due date,
- and they don't get closed, then we have a major problem. And how hard is, or how fast is the first?
- If we had to do another meeting after that for whatever reason. I already spoke into Baker-Tilley, because
- she, Paige Sansona told us she wanted a draft by the first, and I asked her if the second would be okay,
- since we have a meeting on the first, and she said that it's probably okay. So, I mean, we could ask
- her tonight
- If, you know, even next week would be OK. Let's ask. Yeah. Since the first failsafe. In case. OK, so
- meeting on the 25th, 30th. In the first. And April 1st. OK. Do we got to do a motion on that? Probably.
- Do we really need to have a meeting? I think. Darla, do we need to have a motion on that?
- I make a motion that we set the three dates, the 25th, the 30th, and the 1st as reorganization committee
- meetings here, 6 o'clock. Okay, the motion is to have meetings on March 25th, March 30th, and April
- 1st in this room at 6 p.m. Any further discussion? Or is there a second? I'll second. I was giving somebody
- else a chance.
- You and I are already fighting over. Okay, so Kevin moved William seconded I vote. Yes, William. Yes,
- Kevin. Yes, Jerry Scott Don Mike. Yes. Thank you motion passes Well, I know there was some discussion
- about whether those of us who were here
- this coming Wednesday would still have some sort of work session where we could receive public comment.
- And we got clarification from Garland that we cannot. Okay. That if it is a public meeting, we have
- to treat it as a meeting, and without a quorum, this group cannot meet. Thank you. That would not prevent
- any of us who are in town and available from having any other kind of informational meeting privately.
- So if people wanted to get it for coffee or head down to a brewery and have some burgers and talk about
- reorganization. There's nothing wrong with that. So you commit that to three get together?
- Party at Williams House. All right. We're going to move forward on the subcommittee report. We'll have
- Kit come up first. Good evening. I'm Kit Petty, Public Works Director.
- First off, I'd like to apologize that I didn't have this prepared for you at the last meeting that you
- guys was trying to get them all together at. I'll just briefly go over this as fast as I can. There's
- really not a whole lot to talk about really with this. On the street, I'll start with the street and
- the road maintenance. I included the map in this so you guys get the generalization of where all the
- roads are at.
- It's kind of hard to see, but they're all in yellow. The township has roughly 81 miles in the township.
- The town of Ellsville has roughly 32. We've probably got 35, but I need to get them registered with
- the state so we get our revenue with that. So that's the process of getting our money for the roads.
- Of the 81, what I
- personally looked at and deeming as urban, which would be like curb and gutter areas, would be like
- your subdivisions, not with naming all of them, but, you know, the close ones to Eltsville would be
- like Woodgate, you know, Autumn Hills, Autumn Grove. I kind of deem them would be the urbanized area
- of the new reorganization. And of course, it goes to the east and to the south going towards Highway
- 48. That's more of an urban area too as well.
- So just doing the math, when we were to organize, it would bring us up to about roughly 116 miles of
- center lane miles for the reorganized area. So just to briefly go over the operational notes, the utilities
- and street are presented as separate subcommittees
- for reports, but for planning purposes, but the day-to-day operations of the town of Oldsville with
- the public works is we're one unit. We're sewer, water, streets, and storm water. It helps us utilize
- manpower, a lot more manpower for kind of the less cost, I guess you could say in a way, because what
- we do is the salaries are paid
- Mike might have to help me with this a little bit. They're paid one third. It's one third sewer, one
- third water, one third MVH. Well, that gives me the opportunity to pull one guy from virtually working
- on water lines to working on streets. Street guy can go work on water lines, go work on wastewater like
- that. Right now, storm water is in a unit itself. Right now, we've got one employee, the town does,
- in storm water.
- The report covers the street department services road maintenance for the proposed reorganization of
- Richland Township and the town of Ellsville. Kind of go a little forward. There's a lot of services
- that the town provides right now for the residents of the town of Ellsville. One of them is the residential
- brush and leaf programs in the interim
- year of this brush and leaf pickup would be still probably limited to the town or the urbanized areas
- for the time being until the reorganized board comes together and they set what they want for what surfaces
- for what you want versus rural or urban area. The reorganization plan anticipates
- Like I said, two service areas, maybe a town district, maybe a rural district as well. Even though two
- service areas are planning, the goal is one community with coordinated, consistent public works services.
- Also, we would still confirm and operate under existing MOU agreements that we would have with the county
- or any other organization as far as streets.
- snow support. The town manager and myself, I don't know if he mentioned to you at the last meeting,
- but me and him met with the Monroe County Highway Director, Lisa Ridge, and the superintendent of highways,
- Toby Turner. It was a very well meeting that we had together. We had entertained maybe a possible interlocal
- agreement. They weren't really interested in that.
- because of when the town and the township becomes reorganized, that funding will come to us.
- The MVH funding, the local roads and streets, which is the gas tax, that will come to us. So if we even
- wanted to entertain of the county, because the county still does, they do good work with the roads in
- Britson Township. They are good roads.
- we would have to do interlocal agreement with them and then reimburse them back the money. And they're
- not even interested in doing that. And I was fine with it. The town manager was fine with it. So right
- now I've worked at an interlocal agreement back whenever Danny Stockup was still street commissioner
- at the time, because there's a lot of segments of roads that's been annexed into the town that half
- of the road is
- and the other end of the road is in the county. So it didn't make sense for my guys to plow that section,
- lift or plow and go on. So we took all them mileage areas and added them to one road. So now the town
- of Elstville, we plow all of Starnes Road from Flatwoods to Reeves, all of Reeves in the town. And that
- takes care of the other segments that the county plows that we have little bit of areas of.
- So when we reorganize, there will be some roads that will go outside of the township. And I'm sure I
- can work, we can work with Monroe County that we would take care of that road to the end of it and work
- work an MOU that away. I mean, one good example is like Lost Man's Lane. Lost Man's Lane still has road
- that goes on in to Bloomington Township and stops at the Richland Township line. So it would make no
- sense for us to stop at their plows, turn around and go back. So that's something we can work on too
- in the future with Monroe County. Staffing and outsourcing approach. With the money that we have,
- all of the money. The revenue we are looking at, anticipating to get, I should be able to put two more
- guys on staff with reorganization out of the NVH. And like I explained to you earlier with us doing
- the DPW, them two guys could probably give me at least maybe one more guy that would be part of the
- sewer and water part with it. I have
- And I've talked with the town manager of the possibility of outsourcing like some of these subdivisions.
- I know that the Sheridan plan, I don't know if it was in their plan, but I think they talked about it
- and I think they maybe ended up doing it. But they had some contractors came in and did snow removal
- in some of the subdivisions. So that's an option that I'm kinda looking at too as well. But with the
- numbers that I'm looking at, I'm confident that I could probably
- have the staffing to be able to take care of it. So with the funding, the grants and the cost management
- of all this, like I said earlier, the finance subcommittee summary, the street maintenance and public
- works operation expenses are shown at my current budget for this year was right around $994,000. With
- the budget and the organization,
- add another 533,797 and 14 cents. So that would make my budget roughly 1.5 million is what it would
- be. So that funding comes from NVH, like I said, gas tax, the wheel tax, sir tax, and all that actually
- is being taken away from the county and coming to us. So these taxpayers will not be getting
- taxed anything extra for this. The county won't be getting the money for this. It will come to the town.
- And so it does not have any effect on what you guys are trying to do with your portion on that. Does
- that money come... I'm sorry to interrupt you, but does that money come the first year? So if this passes
- in November, does that hit January 1st? No. It'd be like June? Yeah. It'd be June. The whole amount
- or half of it? Half of it. Half of it, okay.
- The town, I think we've discussed this to town that may have enough coffers that we could be able to
- support this until that comes in. Don't hold me to that, but I'm thinking that's a possibility. Now,
- the storm water, when I get to that, that would be a totally different thing. So basically that's it
- in a nutshell there. I got a little bit of our capital equipment we got at the end of it so you can
- see what we got.
- We'll probably need just a couple of dump trucks, you know, and the staffing. We do have some equipment
- that we can do a lot of this stuff on our own still, but there will be some equipment that I'll need
- to purchase out of capital, capital purchasing. So, and that would be in my budgeted lines is where
- that would be that. So if you guys got any more questions with that, I'll just. I'm sorry. So that 533,000,
- Yes, sir. Is that the first year or is that half of that amount the first year? No, that's what my budget
- will go up to. That's not my distribution. That's not the distribution is what that is. That's what
- my budget will... So that's not what we're capturing if it happens? Well, yeah, we'll capture that.
- But only half of it's the first year? It'd be the 1.5 is what we get.
- half of the first year. Is that correct? Yes, it'd be the same for all departments. Yes, it'd be the
- same for all. Yes, exactly. It'd be the same for all departments is what it'll be. But this is not general
- fund. This is totally different. This is just from NVH taxing. And I think that's partly from property
- tax and the gas tax, which is the local roads and streets. Wheel tax.
- and in the will tax, yes. And that's another thing. The will tax will come with that too as well, is
- like what the town has as well. So. And that we will get more immediately. We will probably start getting,
- we would be getting that towards beginning February next year. Yes, exactly. So stormwater,
- I know Mike, I don't know if he emailed everybody. I think Mike sent something out to some of you. I'm
- not sure if all I've got here. I can get that to you later. Basically what he had said is pretty well
- I have in here. Stormwater is just a utility itself. The township, I believe, is roughly
- There's roughly 6,500 homes, I'd say, residential. That's not including your commercial, anything like
- that. And the county has their, I got ahead of myself here. So let me back up here.
- This report covers the water sewer in a storm for purpose of reorganization. There's different providers
- in the township. There's Eastern Richland Sewer Corporation, of course the town of Eltsville in the
- town. On the water side, there's Patrick Berg, or Beanblossom Patrick Berg on the west side.
- Van Buren water on the south side, City of Bloomington on the east side. And they're all, all that will
- stay the same. None of that will change. And then we get to the stormwater. All that stormwater funding
- should come to us. It will be up to the board on how they want that to be billed. I mean, you guys will
- work all that out. My personal, where I live at,
- I pay $75.77 a year for my stormwater where I live at as well. That's for the county, and that comes
- to about $6.31 per month. And the town residence is set at $7 a month is what there are right now currently.
- So that would be something to the board whenever they get together to look at how you want to adjust
- that or what you want to do with that.
- Now that's just residential. That's just residential only for the commercial. We got commercial and
- that's a whole lot. That's a whole lot. There's a lot more impervious areas for that. I hate to cut
- you off. Yes, I'm sorry. So but that was just a quick overview. If you guys got any more questions,
- shoot me an email or I can help you out with anything you need. Do we have any other subcommittee reports?
- That's it.
- Anybody else from the community? You literally have three minutes. Kyle, did you want to say anything
- as election supervisor? OK. Say something. Any discussion among the committee real quick?
- We'll have some additional questions, but I'm looking forward to us getting very clear and aggressive
- agendas set for the next three meetings. So we have an opportunity to work on the things we have to
- come prepared to discuss to those meetings and do all of our fact finding ahead of time to have a shot
- at getting this done in time. Expect a lot of emails. Yeah, and we're allowed to do that, right, Darla?
- We can email agenda administrative stuff. Back and forth asking each other questions. Administrative
- type things.
- We just can't say this report, we're approving it when we get to it. All right. Motion to adjourn.
- So moved. Second. It is concluded. Thank you.