(gavel banging) Call to order the Monday, June 9th version of the Ellsville Town Council. Marsha, would you do the prayer? I have the father once again to come before you and we ask again for your blessing and we ask you to lead and guide us through these meetings and just be with us in all ways and the decisions we make for our glory. Rest you sing Jesus' name, amen. Amen. - Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call whenever you're ready. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Approval of minutes for the regular meeting, May 27th, 2025. So moved. Second. Motion second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstaining? Action to pay accounts of payable vouchers and payable vouchers. So moved. I'll second that. Motion second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstaining? There are no resolutions this evening nor are there ordinances on first reading. The first ordinance on second reading this evening is amended Ordinance 2025-13 to set fees for the rental of the Elstville Heritage Center. At the last town council meeting, the council members had some suggested changes that they asked me to make and hopefully I've now made all of those in the ordinance. It now reads that the fee is going to be $125 per day or part of the day for individuals who reside within the corporate limits of the town, 250 for those who reside without the corporate limits. The renters have the option of either paying a $500 damage deposit or offering a copy of your certificate of insurance for event coverage which would cover the town and fee waivers based on need shall be considered by the park board. Okay, questions, comments from council? Questions or comments from the public? I believe you said reside within the town. What if you have a business in the town but you don't reside within the town? Is that out? That's the way this reads, it would be, but if the council wants to change that, that's fine. Well, I'm just thinking there are a lot of businesses who probably have owners who don't live in the town that would like to be part of the community. It's a valid point. May I suggest the term resides or owns property within the town? I'm good with that for letting the parks or determine. - Yeah. Further questions from council? So is there a, are we changing it to just let the park board decide or? The problem with doing that, guys, without giving them guidance, they're gonna think we intend for them to stick with the original wording. Okay, the way we're changing it, I mean, so just-- Yeah. - Just amend it. Just amend it as-- Resides or owns property. - Owns property, yeah. You're good with that, Dan. Are we able to pass it as amended? Yes, because I would consider that a minor amendment. A vote on it, as amended, I should say. Is there any other public comment, either in council chambers or online? Seeing none, we're back to the council for either discussion or action. Make a motion to approve the amended ordinance 2025-13 to set fees for the rental of the Eltsville Heritage Center. Second. Motion to second, roll call, please. Yes. Yes. Yes. Senator Seger? Yes. Pam Samples? Yes. Motion carries. Next ordinance this evening is 2025-14, recertifying the current legislative body districts of the town of Eltsville, Indiana. As we discussed at the last meeting, all towns have to have their districts either recertified or redrawn by the end of this month, and the statute allows for a recertification if as of the last census, the population did not change and therefore the ward lines or the district lines did not change, so I had prepared a certification for the council to approve, simply saying that the wards or the districts haven't changed and the town just wishes to recertify the current legislative body districts. Okay, questions, comments from council? Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. So we've had all these new additions, so it's not gonna affect it, like would we certify it? Does that include any of the, all these new houses built additions or whatever? No, 'cause when they come in, they're, it's made it clear what district and ward they're in, correct? You're basing it, yes, and you're basing it off the last census, so I suspect that when the next census comes around, the town will have to do some redrawing of the districts to account for population growth, but as I recall, as of the last census, the town's population did not increase that much, so. And the other question, I don't know if I brought it up last time, is we had to be in line with census blocks, and Denise, I found GIS, the county, did not have census blocks in there, but I did get them to upload them to the voter portal, and we can overlay the districts, the council districts. Would you have time between now and the next town council meeting just to confirm our current wards are all in the right census blocks? Yes, if I have access to your voting. You do, yeah, it's the public one. I can get you the link. Okay. So-- - If it helps, I have an email from the clerk's office stating that our ordinance as I prepared it was fine on their end, unless you just wanted to-- If they say it's okay on their end, and that would prevent us from somebody saying you're not, I mean, I glanced at it and it looked like they were, to be honest with you, it looked like we were still fine, but I mean, I don't know. I got census blocks from a third party and they're all over the place, but then I had Monroe County do the certified census blocks and they look like they match. So, I mean, I'm okay passing it. If you got that from the clerk's office-- I do. I'm okay, tonight. Maybe this is a question for you, William, but Darla, if you can answer, please. So what happens if we have an annexation that all of a sudden during the middle of the next five years makes us very lopsided? Can we redistrict on our own, petition the state to redistrict, or-- I think you can redistrict any time you want to, actually. Okay, all right, that answers that question. You're just required to do it after every census. Sure. - All right. Any further questions from council or comments? Anything from the public, either online or in the gallery? Seeing none, we're back to the council. Do we want to table it so Denise can have time to double check, or do you guys think the clerk's letter is good enough to-- I would think the clerk's letter since it's not a certifying authority. I will still get you that link, Denise, so for future reference, 'cause they hadn't uploaded them before, so it makes it a lot easier for anybody. Yeah, I appreciate it. Is there a motion concerning this ordinance? I move approval of ordinance 2025-14, recertifying the current legislative body, district of the town of Ellsville. Second. Motion is second. Whenever you're ready for roll call. Scott Oldham? Yes. Dennis Swafford? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Pam Samples? Yes. Motion carries. Next ordinance is 2025-15 to adopt the town of Ellsville construction standards and specifications manual for roadways. This was discussed at the last town council meeting as well. These are going to be posted if the council passes them, they're going to be posted on either the town's website or the plan commission website or both. And there are various points throughout the UDO that make reference to these construction standards and specifications. The one thing I did mention at the last meeting that in the final manual copy if you pass it is on page three under section 3.0. There's a reference to chapter 761 storm water management and it should say chapter 152. 'Cause the council passed that last November, I believe. The new storm water ordinance. Okay, so for procedural question here, if we move to pass this, does it need to be passed as written or should we pass it? Pass it as amended. As amended, okay. Other questions from council? From the public? Seeing none, back to council. I move that we pass ordinance 2025-15 to adopt the town of Ellsville construction standards and specification manual for roadways. Second. Motion and second. Yes. Dan Swafford? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Pam Samples? Yes. Motion carries. There is no old business this evening. Under new business, the first item is reappointment of the Ellsville building corporation board members. The three board members, Jack Neal, Brandon Wright, and Carly Woodruff are all up for reappointment. According to the bylaws, the Ellsville building corporation board members were supposed to serve three years, and I would ask the town council to reappoint all three of them. I've made contact with all three of them, and all three of them are willing to continue serving. Darla, I believe Carly Woodruff has moved out of the county. Did she say anything like that in her? I will check with her on that. She did not mention that, but I will check with her before you reappoint her. She didn't say nothing. Should we go ahead and just appoint the two? Yes, please, and I will get with her. And I'm sorry, Darla, the names on the other two, I apologize. Jack Neal and Brandon Wright. Okay. Any more comments from council? I will ask all the public for this, and come back to council, okay? Can I make a motion to reappoint Ellsfield Bidding Corporation board members, Jack Neal and Brandon Wright? Second. Motion to second, roll call, please. Scott Oldham? Yes. Dan Swafford? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Pam Samples? Yes. Motion carries. Next on the agenda is the Richland Township lease termination agreement. As you are aware, the town has a lease agreement with the township to rent the property on Park Street for 25 years, I believe. In any event, the town is going to vacate that property fairly soon. And the Richland Township trustee attorney, Eric Cook, prepared the lease termination agreement for council's consideration. And essentially it says the town will vacate the premises on or before July 1st and surrender the premises to the township trustee at that time. Okay, questions from council? Anything from the public? Back to council. Can I make a motion to approve Richland Township lease termination agreement? Second. Motion second, roll call please. Scott Oldham. - Yes. Dan Swafford. - Yes. William Ellis. - Yes. Trevor Sager. - Yes. Pam Samples. - Yes. Motion carries. Now we're gonna move to privilege of the floor. Anyone having business for the council, not part of our normal agenda? Carl Thurmond from Thurmond Body Shop and resident of downtown Ellitsville. I'm here tonight to see when second and third phase of the flood mediation will begin. The first phase is complete, but still flood. Got water in there over the weekend, and then less than two months earlier on April 4th, there was significant flooding then too. So what has been done has helped, but it's not enough. There's still a lot of room to finish. This is not normally question and answer session, but this is something-- Yeah, we talked about it at the RDC meeting. And all along when we had Christopher Burke come in and do a study of flood mitigation, which no matter what we do, it'll always be flood mitigation. We'll never tame Mother Nature. It always seems to come up with a new way to put rain on top of us. But as Carl said, the first project I think has been successful in mitigating some of the storms that might have posed problems in the past. So one of the studies, or one of the parts of the study, actually phase two, was to reconstruct the McNeely Street Bridge. It's just to the east of Matthews Drive. And we believe our experts, as well as Christopher Burke, they did the study, and they're the experts and engineers. And we believe that if we would put two large storm culverts on the north side of the bridge or on the Matthews Drive side of the bridge, that it would alleviate some of the flooding. We think that when the bridge was originally installed, if you remember, if you're an old-timer, like a couple of us are, you remember the road from Matthews, or the road on McNeely from Matthews when it approached the bridge, it used to be several feet lower than when it was actually on the bridge. And I heard about a couple of people that actually could jump their motorcycle across the bridge because it had a ramp effect. So just for... And so nowadays, sometimes they build bridges to have that feature so when the water starts backing up, the road isn't a dam, it just goes over the road and the road floods and the water just keeps moving. So I've talked to a couple of people that was around when that bridge was reconstructed. And the town supposedly, and I'm looking for the documents now, noted that that would create a backup and maybe not even pass muster on today's standards. And so we're thinking those storm boxes would recreate that ability for the water to just go around the bridge and go on down the stream. So I mean, for us as a town, our next move, if we're gonna make one, is to have the second phase, to have plans and further study that would tell us what we would need to do next, which is the box collar approach and give us an approximate how much it costs. But we can't do anything with the bridge 'cause that's the county's, is it not? Well, that is true. But I think Kip and I met with them a few years ago and asked about getting help to take care of that. And at that time, they didn't think they could. I mean, they just weren't interested in that. So it's a project that needs to be addressed. And now that we've made step one, step two logically is to go take care of that. And so I'm scheduled to call their highway department and I'll make that request again. And in the meantime, we need to decide if no matter how we approach it, we need to be able to say how much it's gonna cost and exactly what we're gonna do. So we might have to spend some money on some engineering. And I'll have them re-quote, they originally give us a price of, I think it was like 35 grand, but I'll have them re-quote what they could work, what it'd take to put us in a place where we could actually maybe bid out a project. Is there anything that we have left that we have not done from phase one that might help with any of this mitigation? Nothing. I mean, it's complete and, I mean, it's, between Carl and the rest of the town crews, I mean, every rain event, we've been there for every rain event since it was completed and we can kinda, we know what's gonna happen depending on the rain and the first phase really did help, but it's a mitigation project. It's not, you can't say you're going to cure the flooding. I just, everybody always needs to know that. Okay. So there's the answer as much as we have it. We may need you to help address it with the county as well if we can't go through there, but they're gonna meet with them and we'll see what we can do further. Okay. So, you know, there's a lot of economic growth happening downtown, but it's gonna remain stagnant as long as-- Right, but if we can't effort anything that we don't own and if that's the stumbling block that we don't own, we can't do anything with it until we get permission. So it's on the county. The county owns the bridge. The county governs the bridge. The county governs what can happen with the bridge. All right, so that's phase two, and then do we have to have phase two complete before phase three? If phase two is the choke point from what he's saying, I'm assuming phase three wouldn't do as much good. I actually don't have the answer to that. I'll have to look. Okay. But as I understood it the last time, and sorry, didn't mean to catch off, Carl, wasn't phase three part of the county's version of the creek as well? Cleaning that out and opening it? I'd have to read it again. I've been pretty much focused on phase two. So it's a county issue at this point? Potentially. Don't wanna throw it all back on the doorstep until we know more, but that's where we're at right now. We're gonna approach it like it's the town's duty to get to the point where we know who's going to do what, and if we hit a stumbling block, then I'll report back. All right, thank you for your help. Thank you. Anyone else having business or any privilege of the floor? My name's Chad Stevens, and I hear Mr. Thurman was talking about the flood. Carl may get hit hard, I get hit harder. I'll back up a little bit. Some of you know me, some of you don't. I wasn't born here, but I was raised here from five years old. First house on the right, Ridge Springs, grew up there. I went to school here, first through fifth, down at what's now Seven Oaks. Graduated here, and my kids went to school here. I've had business here after working with my dad for 20 years, and I've seen a lot happen down at the corner of Matthews and McNeely when it comes to flooding. I fought 'em for years, usually don't say much, but after watching a dozen of my guys work their butts off, cleaning up after this flood from early Sunday morning, I just can't take it no more. I gotta come up and say something. So, I'm here to say something about, in 2017, you all had a report built by DNR, and as of now, we only have like one section of this done, and we all know, we all should know, that the McNeely Street Bridge is the biggest culprit in flooding in Ellisville. In this report, it said, it did need some more study, but in this report, it did say something about putting culverts at McNeely Street Bridge. I understand that Ellisville has no authority over McNeely Street, but something's gotta be done. I took on 21 inches of water early Sunday morning, with the same amount of rain that fell Thursday morning, three and a half inches, and it didn't flood down there, but Sunday, sorry, but a Sunday morning, I couldn't get down there to find it fast enough, and I took on 21 inches of water. Toolboxes, tools, equipment, and I firmly believe that these culverts that should be put, well, I mean, a new bridge would be great, but I firmly believe that these culverts put in McNeely Street would have, most likely, mitigated every bit of that water from flooding in there. 15 minutes, 15 minutes from when I checked the cameras and everything was okay by the time I got there and I had six inches of water in the building, I couldn't pick up stuff fast enough, and it was 21 inches, two and a half blocks deep. All day, I couldn't even go down there yesterday and work on it, I was just sick of my stomach, so today, a dozen people worked on it all day, and it's still not done, it's still not clean, all day. Tools lost and morale's down and I'm not happy, so I'd like to see something done, whatever force we can put behind getting these culverts in on McNeely Street 'cause that will help this flooding, no doubt. I have land on both sides of that creek and I would be willing and very willing to remove a lot of the fill that's on the land east of Jack's Defeat to help mitigate some of that and get direction into those culverts, so just wanted to come up here and say my piece about getting that, getting pressure. Like I said, I don't know where we stand with what can be done with Monroe County, but I would appreciate all the effort we could pushing forward to getting those culverts put in 'cause I am tired of seeing water. I mean, I would love to say, and I'm sure Carl's aren't the same, just, hey, go buy more land in higher ground, but it's not that easy. Very limited about I need to be where I'm at or, and I love being in Eltsville. Like I said, I grew up here, went to school here. I've owned all my businesses here. And I really want to stay here. So there's a limited amount of land in Eltsville to run my kind of business. And not only is it expensive to buy and interest rates and everything else, like it's just hard to do that. So staying where I'm at, I hope I can. And I hope, you know, certainly get some help and get this pushed through, whatever, whatever it takes. Like I'm here. I want to get the, I want to get these culverts put in and see what it does, 'cause it's a lot of water. I took 40 inches on in April, two months ago. Now, luckily that I had warning and was able to pack everything up in a trailer. And I wrote, I mean, all I lost was a roll of toilet paper. And a day's worth of cleaning and scraping. And, you know, we were back in business. No warning with this one. And, you know, by the time I got down there, it's been a rough day, so. We'll let them see where they can get with the county. I don't wanna just tell you it's the county's problem, 'cause we're gonna try and effort it through. But at some point, we may need your help and Mr. Thurman's help with the county to address it with them and see where we can go. Because legally, we can't touch the bridge, we know that. So it's gonna be a question that we don't disagree with you at all. It's how do we get a yes from a current no? Yeah, I don't think it's anywhere here. I really don't. I mean, you know, the mitigation, this report talks about things. And they're saying it's a report and you know, there's recommendations in there, but, and y'all are trying, like I see it. But that part right there, you got my full whatever support I need. Mr. Thurman brings up a very good point. We're a lot of people investing a lot of money in Ellsville right now. And we want that to continue. So we have another government at this point in time kind of stopping that up. Yeah. So we're gonna need to see what we can do with that. Yeah, and like I said, with land on both sides, that bend right there is, I'm losing about a foot to two foot of land with every flood. It just keeps eating the bank out and falling in. So I got an issue there, but like I said, I own land all the way from the train depot, all the way to McNeely and from Jack's Defeat to your railroad trail. So like, there's a huge amount of dirt that can be moved out of there with the right approvals, but it still gets us to McNeely Street. Right. And like I said, I'll do whatever I can. We push as much water as you want, but once we get to McNeely, it only goes under the road so fast. And it goes to my shop and... Right. Yeah, so. They're working on it. So if you have an answer, we'll get back with you. All right, thank you. We have a call scheduled with Monroe County, right? Pardon? You had said you have a call scheduled with Monroe County. All right, thank you. Thank you. Anyone else having business for the council? Good evening. My name is Jason Barrett. I'm a resident of here in Bloomington, technically, but on the edge of Ellisville. Ironically, I'm not talking about needing mitigation help from the flood, I bought a business into the flood, so hopefully trying to move our economics along in Ellisville. Try to keep this short. First of all, thank you guys for having this forum to like people like me come up and speak their piece about the things that may be bothering them or challenging with their businesses. Little history, I bought a company called Floor Coverings International four years ago. We were over in Bloomington, around West Plex, and decided to buy the couple properties down on Temperance last July, and come and try to remodel it, and sort of put our footprint here. My co-owner is my wife. Some of you know her, she works in the school system. Three kids in the school. I'm not from here, I've been here seven years, but we're deeply rooted and committed to being Ellisville. We got a four-year-old, so we're gonna be here at least another 14 years. But tonight, I just wanted to bring up a situation that I'm in with some fines that were levied against my business, and I've sent this to Scott and to Mike Farmer so they could read it ahead of time. And I don't want to get into every specific detail unless we need to, but there were three different fines. Jason, before you go on, let me ask one question. Yeah. - Okay. And I learned this right before the meeting, so I apologize. Darlie, he's here to appeal a fine, but does that not go before the BZA first before it gets to us? It goes before the Board of Zoning Appeals. Okay. - Before it comes to us. You're welcome to tell us what's going on, but I don't want to put you through that cycle and then refer you right back to BZA before you come back. That's fine, so a different time and place. Yes. And actually, if it goes before the Board of Zoning Appeals and he's not happy with that decision, he gets appealed to the local circuit court. Okay. - Okay. So we are not your venue, unfortunately. I apologize. I didn't learn that until right before the meeting. That's quite all right. I appreciate your guys' time, and have a good meeting, and we'll talk to you guys soon. Thank you. - Thank you. Anyone else having business for the council, not part of our normal agenda? Anyone online? Seeing none. We'll move on now to supervisor comments, beginning with the town manager. Okay, well, the first order of business is to talk about June 23rd. We've started moving from the properties on Park Street, where the street department is, and the properties on Matthews, where the utilities people are. We're moving out of those old, nasty, rotting, falling down buildings, and we're actually gonna be able to provide our workforce a place to work out of that they can be proud of, and it'll be a lot safer and cleaner. Anyway, with that said, we've started the process to move. First thing I'd say is the utility office is closed for the next two days while we make the move. And then I also want to let everybody know so they can put it on their calendar. June 23rd, we're gonna have an open house and a ribbon cutting. It'll be from three to six, which with the ribbon cutting about 3.30, we'll have some comments in the ribbon cutting itself. There'll be light snacks, refreshments, and we'll be able to show where we're gonna be living for the next 20 or 30 years, at least, and give tours. It's a really nice building. It adds to the campus where we already have the town hall and the police department and our parks. And so I'd like for everybody to come if they can and we'll be getting ahold of you individually to talk about how we process the event. Well, you know, we've talked about the flooding and there's two things going on, you know, that make the flooding bad in Elso. We're down near the creek and that's where everything floods. And this year we have had rains of, you know, five inches and then that was April, that was April 5th or 4th. And then recently Thursday night we had 3.5 inch rain or four inch rain. And then Sunday morning we got surprised with the two inch rain was in about 40 minutes. So even this morning we had 0.6 tenths of an inch of rain. So we've really been taking it hard. It shows a weakness in our storm system and there's still a lot of irrigation to be done to maybe to lend ourselves to these guys' problems. So I hate it. We're always out there. There's not much we can do when it's raining. We try to be out there in force. Kip's always out there before I am. I try to be out there every night to try to help when we get to, when we talk to the engineer so we know what we're talking about and how the water runs. I don't know how helpful that is, but I hate it. I mean, it's killing me. I hate it. If I can ask a question, how did the plant fare during this? I mean, the sewer water treatment plant, 'cause I know we always have I&I coming from umpteen systems. We continue to have the same problems we've always had. We go to, I mean, all four plants are on. Had a couple local incidents that caused us some problems that were 'cause of new construction, but we got them rectified right away. We still have photos I've actually met with Easter Rensselaer today and continue to discuss that we really, really, really need to start diving deep into our I&I issues because it kind of used to be this way, it's pretty much went through this way. So we continue with our growth in our old piping system to, I mean, I was actually out this morning walking manholes with the crew, trying to figure out where we work next. But the Eastern seems to be on board. I showed them some pictures of some manholes and they were gonna get right on it. Kind of always dovetailing with that. Unfortunately, the people who've spoken tonight and some that haven't clearly have an issue with water. We know that. But I think the general public says, oh, those are limited to whatever. They're not because they impact everybody as they go to the plant. And I don't think most people realize the staggering amount of water that goes through that plant and through our pipes every day. And then you increase it to, what did you tell me? Millions of gallons a minute, you know, at certain points during these heavy rains, it's just unfathomable. I know from a normal flow of one million, it's about what our town uses during the normal fit of the 2.3 the plant has. And luckily they built that plant with a peak of 10 million. And currently we are meeting that 10 million. I mean, we're getting to the point where we need to talk about how are we really gonna mitigate what we're using up in our capacity. So things that we're currently working on just haven't brought them to the board. Sure. Jeff, excuse me, what does I and I mean? Excuse me? What does I and I mean? Inflow and infiltration. Inflow is a direct hole or a gate and hole in the sewer system that we don't know about. And I and I is, infiltration is the lots of cracks and breaks and laterals and stuff like that. And when you add it all up, it's a lot of water. And what's crazy is it goes down about as fast as it comes up. I mean, it takes about a day and a half for it to get back to normal, so. Thanks. Thanks, Jeff. Anything else? Mike, anything else? Chief? No, sir. Jeff, back to you. Will you still be here 30 years from now when we move with you? I will be. (laughing) Just out of spite. I have nothing to say. Chief? Remind everybody that the fireworks this year will be on July 5th. Of course, there'll be food trucks up there starting around five. The fireworks are at dusk around 10 p.m. And it's, the fireworks are fully funded by donations. And if you're on social media and you go to the Ellsville Fire Department Facebook page, you can make donations through that link also. Hello? That's it. He said that's it. (laughing) Thank you. I have nothing. In about March, town council mentioned something about the census in our current population. So I contacted the Census Bureau about a boundary update, filled their required paperwork out. They sent me the maps. And on May 30th, I provided an update adding 21 streets and eight parcels. So this gives them time to get everything in line for the next census. And their cutoff date was January 1st, 2025, for me to add that. Fantastic job on that, Denise. Thank you. Anything else? That's it. Okay. Nathan from clerk's office. Mr. President. Sir. I would offer one more thing. So we're doing the 10 week concert series. Yes. It's not there yet. It's went well and the crowds keep getting bigger. I don't know what happened. Saturday, I didn't get to go, but I know I had to move it in because it was raining and there was a storm coming. But I highly recommend you check it out. It's kid friendly. It's easy in, easy out. And it's a really good time. And there's plenty of food trucks. So everybody should go at least once. Thanks. Okay, moving now to council comments. All I have to say is that, do we have in our, the back of our mind plans for the 250th anniversary next year of the country? So I don't know what it's called, not bicentennial, but I'm sure there's a name for it. Just if we don't, maybe we, just a thought. It's a good thought, but I mean, I'll be at my house if you wanna come over. (laughing) But yeah, maybe we should. And I would take a leap from the board of what they think we should do. Yeah, I mean, yeah. I know in the bicentennial and showing my age here, I remember in the town of Speedway, where I lived at the time, they had, on their main streets, they had flags, like where we have the ones from the school now, just American flags, both ways, everyone. They even painted their fire hydrants, red, white, and blue. I mean, little things like that really. And if we're having a concert series with, and if that continues, I think that would be great. Just something to think about. We've got plenty of hydrants that they painted, maybe we could, I mean, you know. I'll volunteer to help do some of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, well, I guess we need to start talking about it. I might even grow a beard. And so, but anyway, yeah, we'll work on it. I hadn't even thought about it. I didn't want to bring it up in like February and say, what are we doing? Yeah, we did a great job being prepared for the eclipse. Yeah, I'm just kind of the same, yeah. (audience laughing) We did, though, we were on point. We did. We apparently scared everybody away. (audience laughing) I didn't have to wait in line too long for my Diet Coke at McDonald's, so it was all good. Yeah, well, I'm all about being patriotic, so yeah, we should work on that. I just hadn't thought about it. I mean, try to make sure it doesn't rain. I understand. Any other council comments? None. We're good? - We're good. Seeing no further business for the council. We're adjourned. (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (orchestral music) (upbeat music)