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- We call to order this special meeting of the Eltsville Town Council Friday, October 17th, 2025. Chief.

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- Again, thank you so much for this little town. Thank you for its employees. Just be with us as we choose

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- the things we need to do for this town. That's the same Jesus name. Amen. Pledge allegiance to the flag

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- of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God,

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- indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Roll call whenever you're ready. Scott Willem. Here. Dan

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- Swafford. William Ellis. Here. Trevor Sager. Here. Pamela Samples. Action to pay accounts, I'm sorry,

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- action to approve the minutes from September 22nd, 2025 meeting. Second. Motion to second, all those

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- in favor say aye.

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- Aye. Any opposed? Any abstaining? Action to pay accounts payable vouchers and payroll vouchers. So moved.

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- Motion second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstaining? Okay we're gonna move on

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- to resolutions and just as a point of note this is a

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- special meeting because we had to alter the time for a quorum. However, it is the regular meeting for

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- this week for the Ellsville Town Council. There are four resolutions this evening, or this morning.

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- First resolution is resolution 29, 2025 to approve the Ripley Annexation Fiscal Plan. At its October

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- Plan Commission meeting, the Plan Commission approved the Ripley Annexation, which consists of

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- 71.93 acres into the town of Ellitsville, and it was approved five to zero. So what is before you is

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- the resolution for the fiscal plan for that annexation. Okay. Questions from Council? Mike, do you want

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- to say anything about this? I have nothing to say, but we welcome micro police properly into town is

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- what we're looking for.

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- Anything from the public? Seeing none, we're back to council. Make a motion to approve resolution 29-2025

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- to approve the Ripley annexation fiscal plan. I'll second. Motion to second, roll call when you're ready.

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- Scott Oldham? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Saker? Yes. Motion passes.

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- Next resolution is 30-2025 to increase the labor costs for the Town of Ellsville water utility. Yeah,

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- I'll take that. So the utilities and street department, which is now the Department of Public Works,

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- we have many pieces of equipment and of course the labor force. And from time to time, we have to repair

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- something damaged by maybe another party

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- or somebody's asked us to build something that helps them with a construction project and it's an extra

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- ordinary charge. So we have a list of equipment and including labor that needs to every once in a while

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- be updated. We've waited a long time to update it. Anyway, we have costs associated with each piece

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- of equipment and it's based on

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- industry standards. So we want to get this approved so we can utilize the list. Okay. Questions from

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- council? Anything from the public? Back to council. I make a motion to approve resolution 30-2025 to

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- increase the labor costs for the town of Ellisville water utility. Second. Whenever you're ready. Scott

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- Oldham? Yes.

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- William Ellis? Yes. Chancellor Sager? Yes. Motion passes. Next resolution is 31-2025, a transfer of

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- funds for parks. Okay, so we asked to transfer funds out of one line into the material or construction

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- line, Noel, which line did? Town improvements. Oh, town improvements, thank you. Which encompasses all

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- of the things you would need.

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- So anyway, we asked for the transfer. It's funds that are already available to be transferred so we

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- can utilize them to finish out some of the pavement and concrete parts of the project for the Heritage

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- Center, which I always call the barn. We're just moving the money from one line to another, right? Yes,

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- sir. Here we go. Actually, two lines to one. Any questions from council?

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- Yes, well, this is this pretty much will be done with it then, or will we be needing more money later

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- on? Well, I'd like to say we've come to the point where we will not be asking for any more funds. But

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- with all the things that we had to prepare for DNR, we there may be a few more items, but we will keep it within

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- reason, but these are the last capital amounts that we'll need. It's a phenomenal project so far, it

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- looks wonderful. Yeah, anybody that hasn't been there, I would invite them to call me or Denise and

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- we'll walk you through it. It's absolutely beautiful. Any other comments, questions from council? Anything

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- from the public? Back to council. Make a move.

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- Motion to approve resolution 31-2025, transfer of funds for parks. I'll second. Motion to second, when

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- you're ready to move. Scott Oldham? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Motion passes. Next

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- is resolution 32-2025, resolution of the Ellsville Town Council approving a declaratory resolution and

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- economic development plan of the town of Ellsville

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- Redevelopment Commission to amend the Eltsville Riverfront Economic Development Division and order the

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- order of the Eltsville Planning Commission. That is a mouthful. Someone explain it. So in August or

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- at its August Redevelopment Commission meeting, the Redevelopment Commission passed a resolution, a

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- declaratory resolution to amend the Eltsville Riverfront Economic Development District to just to clarify

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- some parcel numbers and legal descriptions.

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- That came before the Plan Commission at its October meeting. They approved that plan. It's before the

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- Council now. And if you approve that Plan Commission order, it goes back before the Redevelopment Commission

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- for a final hearing and a confirmatory resolution. I think I understand that. I'd be happy to try and

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- explain it for you. If you would. Okay.

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- When the redevelopment commission passed in February of this year, the confirmatory resolution to establish

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- two TIP districts, Westside TIP and Downtown or the Riverfront district, the auditor who was handling

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- this had some issues with the legal description and the parcel numbers. They didn't necessarily match.

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- So there was about 30 or 32 properties that were up in the air with regard to a question mark. We had

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- a question mark about it.

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- And since then, the auditor has sent me, and I'm happy to send it to town council members if they want

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- to see it, what is in the TIP district. So the town, and if you look on Elevate, you'll see TIP districts

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- or economic development areas have been established. There's just these properties hanging out that

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- we have to do something with, and unfortunately, I shouldn't say unfortunately, it's what the legislature

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- wants. If you change your paperwork with regard to the resolution, you have to go through this whole

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- process again. So that's why we started with the Redevelopment Commission,

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- to amend the downtown district and then you have to go through that whole procedure back to Planning

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- Commission, to council, back to RDC. So all we're doing is we're just clarifying, hopefully, for the

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- auditor and so that what we thought was in the downtown district will actually be in the downtown district.

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- Because again, there was over 100 properties and there was like 30, 32 that there was a question about.

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- So so essentially we're just showing up the foundational documents for the statute. Yes, okay Okay,

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- not clear other council questions Anything from the public back to council I'll make a motion to approve

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- a resolution of the Ellisville town council approving of the court declaration

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- How to pronounce that? Declaratory, thank you. Resolution and Economic Development Plan of the Town

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- of Ellisville, Redevelopment Commission to amend the Ellisville Riverfront Economic Development District

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- in order of the Ellisville Planning Commission. Could we have made that longer? I just took what Darla

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- had for the record. I'll second it. Motion and a second, whenever you're ready. Scott Oldham?

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- William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Motion passes. Next resolution is resolution 33, 2025 to amend

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- the pay for Plan Commission, Board of Zoning Appeals, Parks Board, and Redevelopment Commission members.

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- I can take this. So when we were going through the budget, we made a couple of changes to all the boards

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- We recommended a change from $50 to $100 to all the boards aside from the town board from $50 to $100

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- and we included a language that says you must be present to be paid and so that's all this is. And I'd

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- like to point out we still have an opening on the BZA and we cannot get somebody to

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- set in that seat, and I think in these times, it's important to have public participation, so we like

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- to encourage it as best we can. Does this cover council members that are serving on other boards? That

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- was gonna be my question. Yes, the way it's written, it does. Yes, and I think there's been some talk

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- of amending this

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- It's double dipping for council members that are on boards. We get paid pretty well for being on the

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- council. And if you're getting paid additionally for going to these other boards, I think that, I mean,

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- Trevor and I serve on boards. We're not asking for anything. It's part of our duties as the town council.

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- So. I appreciate you taking the lead on that. And I would, I would make a motion to approve, well,

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- Yeah, I would approve this with the difference that if you serve on the town council That's your want.

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- That's your only pay. Yeah, that's your only pay. That's the town council is considered part of your

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- pay I Would agree 100% All right anything from the public Coming back to council for

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- Motions or amendments. I'll make a motion to approve the amended amendment to approve, amend the pay

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- for Plan Commission Board of Zoning Appeals, Parks Board and Redevelopment Commission members, that

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- if you're currently a council member, that your council pay constitutes pay for those boards also. Would

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- that be a better way, a good way to say it? I can amend it to reflect that, yes.

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- RDC is already like that, but the other boards are not. So this would just be getting the other boards

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- in line with what we established for the RDC. Second. Motion to second. Just so I'm clear before I do

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- the vote really quick. I understand the amendment. Are you going Darla to revise the resolution or

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- The second preamble will state as follows, the Ellsville Town Council has determined it should increase

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- the compensation to $100 per meeting for board members on the Ellsville Plan Commission Park Board Board

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- of Zoning Appeals and Redevelopment Commission who are not already receiving compensations, town council

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- members. And then I'll also modify section one to reflect that language. Perfect, thank you. Okay, now

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- for roll call if you're ready, sir.

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- So I'm just asking a question here. This affects only the town council members. It would not affect

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- other employees who serve on the boards or commission. Just the town council members. Okay, correct.

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- All right, I just want to make sure we're clarifying that. Thank you for that. Scott Oldham? Yes. William

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- Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Motion passes. Ordinances on first reading and seeing the first ordinance

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- is ordinance 2025-23,

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- Recommending the amendment of the schedule of non-recurring charges for tap and meter deposit fees.

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- This is something about a bunch. Yes actually the schedule non-recurring charges for tap and meter deposits

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- it's pretty simplistic when somebody somebody builds a

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- a commercial building or a new home in Ellisville, they need water. They call it a hook on fee when

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- they ask for us to hook them onto the system, receive a meter and start paying a monthly bill. We are

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- required to not overcharge for that. So there's no, when we create the hook on fee, it's based on materials

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- and labor and it's supposed to be a break even. And so we also need to be

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- conscious of if we don't charge enough, it affects all of our current customers. So anyway, we have

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- a new fee with inflation and labor costs rising. We've just amended this, so we break even.

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- and not lose money. So this is what that is. The deposit fees, we raise them to reflect what a meter

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- costs in case we lose it and the deposit fee covers that. For those who might question this, this has

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- been years in the making that we've talked about this and we have been consistently going well into

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- the red for years on these things.

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- I'm not keeping up with everybody else. Well, since 2019, inflation has been extraordinary, and so you

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- can get behind in six months. We've potentially kept them low to encourage building, but we just can't

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- keep going into the red this deeply every year for more and more hook-ons. Yes. Because our rate payers

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- pretty much have to subsidize that.

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- This is normalizing it across the board for everybody. Other questions, comments on this? Any public

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- comment? So in some first reading, it'll come back next meeting. Can we pass this in one setting? I

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- recommend that if we could. Okay. Baker-Tilley intends to file a 30-day filing and there's no public

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- hearing required on this

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- It involves non-recurring charges. Then we can certainly do that if the council so leases. Good.

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- We tried. Okay. All right. I move that ordinance number 2025-23 be submitted for first reading, which

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- we've already, has that already been submitted or do we? Okay. Be submitted for first reading. Second.

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- Motion to second. Roll call, please. Sorry, you can catch up. Scott Oldham. Yes.

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- William Ellis. Yes. Trevor Saker. Yes. Motion passes. I move that ordinance number 2025-23 be adopted

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- on the same day at which it's introduced. Second. Motion to second. Scott Oldham. Yes. William Ellis.

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- Yes. Trevor Saker. Yes. Motion passes. I move that ordinance number 2025-23 be adopted. Second. Motion

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- to second. When you're ready.

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- Scott Oldham? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Saker? Yes. Motion passes. I would like to comment to

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- the council that I will be publishing this in the newspaper as soon as I leave this meeting as well.

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- Do we put that on the website too or does it follow, just track along? It is on the website in the packet,

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- but I'm sure that we can put it separately. Yeah, there's some denotation that we went ahead and passed

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- it so it's not, I guess, conflicting with what the newspaper says.

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- Okay so we're down to the next one which is ordinance 2025-24 to establish signing authority for community

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- crossing matching grants. So the state with new laws that were passed with streets and community crossing

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- matching grants before I always had to provide the minutes that showed you had permission to sign but

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- now they want to ordinance

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- giving you the authority to sign it. And I submit that with the application. And I also submit it if

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- we're awarded the grant. And if you would, please, can you do this on one reading? Approve it on one

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- reading. Because we have a deadline from the state? Yes. OK. Yeah, I thought that was coming up. OK.

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- So seeing that, we're going to kind of handle this as a second reading. So is there comments from council

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- on this? Anything from the public on this?

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- I guess I would, when we establish the authority, would it be you, Denise? Is that what we'd be doing

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- or? And no, it'd be Scott. Scott, okay. He's the signing authority. Okay, all right. Well, town council,

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- town council, presidents. Gotcha. Serving as that and the town council. Instead of doing it every single

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- time. Right. Got it. All right. Any other comments, questions? All right, now we're to the council for

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- some type of motion. I move that ordinance number 2025-24 be submitted for first reading.

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- Second. Motion to second. Scott Oldham. Yes. William Ellis. Yes. Trevor Sager. Yes. Motion passes. I

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- move that ordinance number 2025-24 be adopted on the same day at which it is introduced. Second. Motion

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- to second. Scott Oldham. Yes. William Ellis.

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- Yes. Trevor Sager. Yes. Motion passes. Move that ordinance number 2025-24 be adopted. Second. Yes. William

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- Ellis. Yes. Trevor Sager. Yes. Motion passes. All right. We'll handle that one the same way, right?

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- Noel. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. Now we're going to ordinances on second reading. The first is

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- Adoption of the budget. So adoption 2026 budget, which is ordinance 2025-21 appropriation of taxes and

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- rates. I'm sorry, tax rates. You have something different on your sheet? I have ordinance on second reading.

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- the Ripley annexation. That's on there, but the budget. Budget came first. I don't mind flip-flopping

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- them, but. I didn't have a budget. Yeah, there's two pages today. Sorry. We got one. Let's do business.

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- Noel, do you want to do this now, or do you want to hold this and do it some other time? No. The budget.

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- No, my name under a different category.

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- No, sir, whatever the council's pleasure. Okay. While we handle this, then we'll get into the briefly

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- annexation. Yeah, okay. We're already here, so you're already that? All right, so again, we're gonna

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- call adoption 2026 budget, ordinance 2025-21, Appropriations and Tax Rates.

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- has changed on it I didn't know if the council had any questions or any additional public comment or

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- anything this has been on the website it is also on the gateway the public hearing for this was right

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- over a month ago yes sir the

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- Budget's fairly tight. I wouldn't say it's a zero increased budget, but as close as we could come. We

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- also have failed to be able to afford to replace a policeman that is now currently vacant, and there

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- were no raises for our employees. This is in reaction to the SB1 legislation.

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- And we anticipate this being the status quo for the next budget as well. Just because it always gets

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- asked, this is a funded budget. It is not a balanced budget, correct? Actually, it is a balanced budget.

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- Did we finally get to that point where we're completely balanced?

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- are able to approve the growth levy appeal. That was my point, yes. Then it would be. If that were not

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- to pass, then it would not be a balanced budget. But it would be a funded budget. Correct, yes, sir.

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- Yes, okay. Just so everyone understands, because we get that question every year, is it balanced or

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- funded? No. Here we are. Other questions, comments? Anything from the public, questions or comments?

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- Back to council.

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- Make a motion to adopt the 2026 budget ordinance 2025-21 appropriation and tax rates. Second. Motion

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- and a second when you're ready. Scott Oldham? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Motion passes.

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- Next ordinance is ordinance 2025-22, the Ripley annexation. Thank you.

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- At its meeting on October 2nd, the Plan Commission voted unanimously to forward a favorable recommendation

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- to town council for approval of a petition by Michael and Megan Ripley to voluntarily annex three parcels

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- totaling 71.93 acres of land. Subject parcels are located at 5711 North Union Valley Road, 4601 West

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- McNeely Street, and 4.10 acres next to 4601

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- West McNeely Street. This is a super voluntary annexation. Parcels will be located in Council Ward 3.

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- Parcels are currently zoned Agricultural Residential by Monroe County and the Planning Commission recommended

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- they be designated as Agricultural upon annexation. Petitioner is not present and I'll be happy to answer

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- any questions you may have. Questions, comments from Council? Just good job.

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- the town, everybody involved with this. Thank you. Anything from the public? Seeing none, back to council.

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- I second. Motion and a second when you're ready, Noel. Scott Oldham? Yes. William Ellis? Yes.

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- Trevor Saker? Yes. Motion passes.

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- We have no old business this morning. We are now moving to new business, the first of which is the growth

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- levy appeal petition that we just discussed. So because of our growth over the last three-year average,

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- we qualify for the last year of this three-year growth factor. We did include that in the budget to

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- get to a balanced budget. If the council had any questions on that, one size

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- submit the forms, Baker-Tilley has the rest of the packet together, and we can make sure that you get

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- a copy of that, and we can also put it on the website. Questions, comments from council? If I'm not

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- mistaken, this is the last year we can do this, correct? Correct, unless legislation changes.

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- As of now. Yes. Anything you wanna talk about? Well, yeah, sure. So this is the last year

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- take this and then next year's budget when we talk about it.

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- extra amount of money that might be left over in this year's budget. If anybody pays attention or reads

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- it, it will be gone in the next year and then even worse in 2028. So you will see a balanced budget

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- if this is approved and there will be some, we will be in the black. Let's just leave it at that. But

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- that money will go away. So anybody that says,

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- Well, why didn't you get your police officer or whatever else you needed in 2027? That money won't be

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- there anymore because our revenues are sliding down. They're not growing. So just want everybody to

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- know what we're dealing with. And we are not the only entity. Every governmental entity in Indiana is

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- dealing with this, and it's painful.

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- Anything more from council? Anything from the public? Seeing none, back to council. I'll make, is this

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- a motion to approve the growth levy appeal? Yes, please. Second. Motion and a second when you're ready.

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- Scott Oldham? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Motion passes.

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- The next under new businesses request for permission to hang a sign in the right of way at 113 North

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- sale Street. Business today at 113 North sale Street. We're glad to see that and she would like to hang

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- a sign over the right away and this is comes under the town Council's approval because it's in right

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- away. I provided the specifications for it.

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- and her husband Eric Block is able to be here and can answer any questions you may have. Can you talk

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- just a little bit about how big and how high? Sure. The sign is going to be three feet across,

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- two feet tall. The sign will be nine feet off from the bottom of the sidewalk. American Disabilities

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- Act requires a minimum of

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- 80 inches of clearance from ground level so it meets that. And it will hang about eight inches from

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- where it's attached to the building. If we do approve this, they will still get signed permit approval

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- then. Questions, comments from council? I was asking both Denise probably this isn't, I mean,

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- just looking at it, I can't see it, but if there's something I'm missing where it would interfere with

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- anybody turning or driving on Sale Street and buying. It's high and yeah, I really, but I'm not the

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- expert, so. Okay. Anyone else want to speak to this? Seeing none, back to council. Make a motion to

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- approve the request

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- To hang a sign in the right-of-way at 113 North Sale Street second motion a second Yes, William Ellis,

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- yes Yes Next under new businesses request to authorize town manager to sign the Duke easement for Harmon

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- Farms development

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- In any event, you will recall that Chris Smith is working on a development at Harmon Farms and just

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- south of the development is Wells Park and he needs to have an easement go through the town's property

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- for the benefit of that development.

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- So that's the purpose of this easement document. Duke prepared it and Duke needs to have this easement

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- signed or Chris needs to have Mr. Smith needs to have an easement signed so he can continue with his

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- development. And you will recall also that this is close to the section. We did a land swap with Mr.

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- Smith, the town, and Mr. Smith did a land swap a few months ago.

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- And May of 2024, Richland beam blossom school corporation deeded to the town as 60 foot right away that

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- would allow basically parents to get their kids from hard farms to the school. And then continuing on

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- from that 60 foot right away is the land swap

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- where Mr. Smith or Harmon Farms is going to give to the town some land and in exchange the town cut

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- off a little corner of Wells Park and give it to Harmon Farms. But this utility easement is pretty close

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- to where that land swap occurred, if that helps you visualize it. But it is in Wells Park, the easement

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- is going through Wells Park.

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- I have nothing to say except I'd like to be able to sign this and keep business around here efficient

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- and timely. Motions from council or discussion from council? Is there a motion? I make a motion to approve

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- the request to authorize the town manager to sign the Duke easement for Harmon Farms Development.

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- I'll second. Motion to second. When you're ready to vote. Scott Levin? Yes. William Ellis?

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- Yes. Motion passes. While it's not necessarily listed on the agenda, I'm sorry, it is. Privilege of

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- the floor. Anyone have any business for the council not part of this morning's agenda? Seeing none,

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- we'll move into supervisor comments. Go lose yours at 3.30 tomorrow. You better clean out your gutters

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- and your ditches.

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- And there's going to be wind involved. Wind. Okay, it's all got. There may not be tornadoes, but the

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- chance of tornadoes is not zero. So be careful. Moving on from the cherry part of today. Yes. Deputy Chief.

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- Monumental event this afternoon. We're going to be putting the bull back up on the barn The original

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- cow goes back up it does Several members of the public will be quite excited for that. Yeah, and It's

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- been a nice question guys. I'm just saying they were concerned Yeah, so we're we're very close and we'll

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- let everybody know when it's open and

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- I think we need to let PETA know it's not a real cow. Council comments? Anything from the council? Nothing?

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- At this point I know no further business for the council. We stand adjourned.
