WEBVTT 00:00:00.610 --> 00:00:08.461 - for the meeting on June 8th, 2026. Chief, you wanna do the prayer? One more time we gather here to thank 00:00:08.461 --> 00:00:16.238 - you for the many blessings. We thank you for this little town we serve. We thank you for all the things 00:00:16.238 --> 00:00:24.239 - you do for us. That should be with us tonight to make good decisions that are important to this community. 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:27.230 - We ask you to say in Jesus' name, amen. 00:00:28.610 --> 00:00:38.506 - I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, 00:00:38.506 --> 00:00:48.028 - one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call, please. Scott Ullman. 00:00:48.028 --> 00:00:55.870 - Here. James Walker. William Ellis. Here. Trevor Sager. Here. Candace Ambrose. Here. 00:00:57.122 --> 00:01:05.281 - approval of the minutes for the meeting on six eight of twenty twenty six. Second. All those in favor 00:01:05.281 --> 00:01:13.280 - say aye. Aye opposed. Anyone abstaining. Action pay accounts payable vouchers and payable vouchers. 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:21.678 - So moved. Second motion second all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstaining? It's a very light 00:01:21.678 --> 00:01:23.358 - agenda this evening. 00:01:23.586 --> 00:01:29.501 - There are no ordinances on first reading. There are no resolutions. There are no ordinances on second 00:01:29.501 --> 00:01:35.299 - reading There is no old business. There is no new business So we'll now immediately go to privilege 00:01:35.299 --> 00:01:41.330 - of the floor and when having business for the council that is not part of our rather sparse agenda this 00:01:41.330 --> 00:01:47.187 - evening Step up, please Good evening. My name is Jason Barrett and I own a little business down here 00:01:47.187 --> 00:01:50.782 - and off of temperance I know a lot of you and I thank you for 00:01:51.042 --> 00:01:57.558 - Having a few minutes, won't take long. I know you got a long agenda ahead of you. Quick backstory on 00:01:57.558 --> 00:02:04.397 - my business. We decided to move it to Ellisville. Bought a piece of property subject with the floodplain. 00:02:04.397 --> 00:02:10.978 - A lot of good partners here that helped me through that, especially Mike. Move back a little from the 00:02:10.978 --> 00:02:17.559 - mic. And Kevin and his team with trying to revitalize that area. Long story short, we were on a great 00:02:17.559 --> 00:02:18.462 - path and then 00:02:18.786 --> 00:02:26.705 - had some challenges with being able to expand my business. Tried to get a project internally in the 00:02:26.705 --> 00:02:34.862 - business approved. It took many, many months. Got the DNR involved in another project, and then we got 00:02:34.862 --> 00:02:42.939 - a fine because we didn't follow the rules that were set aside by the town. And really it came down to 00:02:42.939 --> 00:02:45.790 - after we've sat down with the town, 00:02:46.466 --> 00:02:51.888 - It really took longer than anybody wanted to, expected to, or should have, but then we were fined because 00:02:51.888 --> 00:02:57.157 - the DNR forced the town to. Anyway, there's still this little bit of a fine that's standing out there, 00:02:57.157 --> 00:03:02.425 - and I've been trying to have somebody listen to just our story, and we're trying to grow our business. 00:03:02.425 --> 00:03:07.950 - Really what we're trying to do is add onto the building that's there, and that's just to grow our business. 00:03:07.950 --> 00:03:10.814 - Part of it's gonna be warehouse, part of it's hopefully 00:03:11.330 --> 00:03:19.366 - Road frontage for for another business and I guess the whole thing reason I'm here is just to ask for 00:03:19.366 --> 00:03:27.480 - some cooperation I'm not looking for that to be expunged. I've given some options of like contributing 00:03:27.480 --> 00:03:36.382 - to Agriculture around the built planting trees doing things around our building helping the the campaign for the 00:03:38.914 --> 00:03:44.881 - the town coming together with the township, whatever it is to help this, but some people don't realize, 00:03:44.881 --> 00:03:50.791 - but it's at $2,500 now, and that's a big piece of money to me. That takes me about three or four jobs, 00:03:50.791 --> 00:03:56.701 - which takes me a lot of time and effort, which we really don't feel like it was warranted. I won't get 00:03:56.701 --> 00:04:02.611 - into the backstory of feeling like that it was done for reasons of retaliation, which I do, but that's 00:04:02.611 --> 00:04:08.062 - not the point why I'm here. I'm here to be a partner. We're staying here. We've got kids here. 00:04:08.162 --> 00:04:14.437 - You might know my wife, my co-owner, and we just want some cooperation to say, hey, is there a better 00:04:14.437 --> 00:04:20.712 - way that we can handle this so we can move our business forward and continue to grow, build here more 00:04:20.712 --> 00:04:26.863 - in Ellisville, and find some way to amicably decide on how to, for me to give the town $2,500 other 00:04:26.863 --> 00:04:33.138 - than in cash, I'm happy to do it. So thanks for a few minutes. Thank you. Someone want to explain the 00:04:33.138 --> 00:04:34.430 - town's part of this? 00:04:38.946 --> 00:04:45.138 - I also note that any fine levied by the planning director is something that can appeal to the board, 00:04:45.138 --> 00:04:51.636 - can be appealed to the Board of Zoning Appeals because that's their job. One of their jobs is to consider 00:04:51.636 --> 00:04:58.195 - appeals from the zoning director's decision and that time limit has passed. It's 30 days after she renders 00:04:58.195 --> 00:05:04.325 - her decision, so. Yeah, and to respond to that, I've met with the town three times after that. That 00:05:04.325 --> 00:05:08.126 - was never mentioned. I'm sure it's in some writing somewhere. 00:05:08.418 --> 00:05:14.008 - but as a partner that comes to them to talk about this, find ways to resolve it, it was not brought 00:05:14.008 --> 00:05:19.766 - to my attention till I claimed to the planning committee after I was told to come to this meeting, was 00:05:19.766 --> 00:05:25.356 - told you can't do it here, go to the zoning, went to the zoning, told them before I was coming that 00:05:25.356 --> 00:05:31.114 - I was coming, didn't say don't come, came, give my piece, they said, oh, you can't do that now, you'll 00:05:31.114 --> 00:05:36.759 - have to sign up for the next time, and then it was spoken up that it was past the time, so I get it, 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:37.598 - there's rules, 00:05:37.826 --> 00:05:45.029 - And I'm not here to argue them or debate them. I'm just trying to look for some partnership. Be glad 00:05:45.029 --> 00:05:52.446 - to share what the board are noticing, everything we know about it. And you guys can look through those. 00:05:52.446 --> 00:05:59.791 - First off, I guess my question, and I'm not sure, Ms. Brown, is this even within our purview? No, sir, 00:05:59.791 --> 00:06:07.422 - I don't think it is. OK. Is there an alternative that we can suggest to this gentleman, the court, or how? 00:06:10.466 --> 00:06:17.632 - I think his time limit to appeal it has passed, so. Okay. Yeah, in fairness, I did tell him to speak 00:06:17.632 --> 00:06:24.939 - to the council because I didn't know what else. I just want to make sure we don't overstep our bounds. 00:06:24.939 --> 00:06:32.105 - I guess the only proper relief at this point in time, if there is any, would be to seek from the New 00:06:32.105 --> 00:06:38.206 - York County Court, is that correct? He could. He could. I would argue that he's late. 00:06:40.546 --> 00:06:48.551 - The final decision I get that that you will have to seek, you know, your attorney will have to go through 00:06:48.551 --> 00:06:56.102 - the court to receive that $2,500. We also have other pieces that we will bring to a court if that's 00:06:56.102 --> 00:07:02.974 - exactly what happens. I will say that working with the town has been incredibly difficult. 00:07:03.074 --> 00:07:09.668 - We have one employee of the town who very much does not like me or my husband and has held that not 00:07:09.668 --> 00:07:16.263 - only against our business, but against us personally. It took over three months to receive a permit 00:07:16.263 --> 00:07:23.055 - for us to make our building habitable. I think anybody that has been in that place knew that you could 00:07:23.055 --> 00:07:26.814 - not be in there without a mask, let alone work in there. 00:07:27.266 --> 00:07:33.116 - It took over three months to get a permit so that we could actually move employees and we couldn't have 00:07:33.116 --> 00:07:38.853 - them safely in the building. So we started the inside work. We did not break DNR rules with this. But 00:07:38.853 --> 00:07:44.534 - then when we applied for a personal pool permit at our own home, it was denied within an hour. So to 00:07:44.534 --> 00:07:50.384 - say that there's not something else behind this is just simply not accurate. And I understand if that's 00:07:50.384 --> 00:07:55.390 - the direction that the town has to take, but I think you also have to understand that as 00:07:55.586 --> 00:08:00.769 - Community members and business owners. We also would have to take action at that point in time as well 00:08:00.769 --> 00:08:06.002 - Again, I think it's important to note that it's not that the council's unwilling to hear you understand 00:08:06.002 --> 00:08:11.085 - or render if it's just outside of our purview and outside of our power Yeah, the only thing again to 00:08:11.085 --> 00:08:16.419 - the town's detriment into your detriment that I can suggest is some type of Action with the Monroe County 00:08:16.419 --> 00:08:21.451 - Court, of course the town will have their arguments You will have yours and neutral magistrate will 00:08:21.451 --> 00:08:22.558 - have to appeal theirs 00:08:22.658 --> 00:08:29.370 - simply nothing under the law that this board can do for you at this point. Yeah, we understand that. 00:08:29.370 --> 00:08:36.148 - We're trying to go through every process that we can before it comes to this point. I think if we had 00:08:36.148 --> 00:08:42.992 - known about an appeal, a 30-day appeal long before, we would have been at that meeting in a heartbeat. 00:08:42.992 --> 00:08:49.837 - But unfortunately, communication has been less than stellar. OK, thank you very much. Mike, let me ask 00:08:49.837 --> 00:08:51.166 - you, do you see any 00:08:51.842 --> 00:08:59.672 - I mean, I know no decisions really can be made tonight. Is there any room for movement for us to discuss 00:08:59.672 --> 00:09:07.204 - this with the business owner? Because one of the things that... I caution this discussion, again, in 00:09:07.204 --> 00:09:11.678 - fairness to all parties, if there is going to be some legal 00:09:12.034 --> 00:09:18.194 - Maneuvering done and some legal filings. It is perhaps best that we end the discussion at this point. 00:09:18.194 --> 00:09:24.837 - I'm just trying to avoid getting I get it But again if we're if we're to the point where we're at loggerheads 00:09:24.837 --> 00:09:30.937 - and again I apologize guys if we're at loggerheads and perhaps we need to preserve all I guess if we 00:09:30.937 --> 00:09:36.916 - actually are longer if we are in the town's position is Stated by the planning department planning 00:09:36.916 --> 00:09:41.566 - Commission. They have their position I don't see litigating this in front of 00:09:42.370 --> 00:09:48.784 - everybody involved. No, I wasn't asking that. I was just asking if it's worth a conversation. 00:09:48.784 --> 00:09:55.744 - That's all. I don't know if we can have that conversation. We can. I would like to make it clear that 00:09:55.744 --> 00:10:02.908 - there was another entity involved. And when you deal with DNR, they have rules and there's complications 00:10:02.908 --> 00:10:10.277 - in when you don't follow them. And so I think there was some misunderstanding about what could and couldn't 00:10:10.277 --> 00:10:11.710 - happen. And so we've 00:10:12.002 --> 00:10:19.926 - We have expectations as a town from the DNR. So, you know, it was a complicated affair and it's too 00:10:19.926 --> 00:10:27.930 - bad it turned out like it did. Understand the board has expectations as well. Anyone else? Privilege 00:10:27.930 --> 00:10:36.092 - of the floor. Having business for this council not part of the normal agenda. Seeing none, we will now 00:10:36.092 --> 00:10:40.926 - move to supervisor comments beginning with the town manager. 00:10:42.274 --> 00:10:55.211 - Just thank the first responders for response to the storms Appreciate everybody including DPW for helping 00:10:55.211 --> 00:11:07.537 - out Things to remind everyone this year's fireworks are on July 4th up around the high school junior 00:11:07.537 --> 00:11:09.246 - high area and 00:11:09.538 --> 00:11:16.065 - There will be food trucks, and they'll be out by the junior high parking lot. And then our annual blood 00:11:16.065 --> 00:11:22.592 - drive is July the 18th at the fire station. And you can sign up for that and get additional information 00:11:22.592 --> 00:11:28.867 - on the fire department Facebook page. Or you can call the station, and I'll get you in contact with 00:11:28.867 --> 00:11:35.206 - Chris Klaus. Thank you. And again, what time we expect the fireworks? Not that it shouldn't be dark, 00:11:35.206 --> 00:11:37.214 - but what are you thinking here? 00:11:38.402 --> 00:11:44.995 - darks about all I can tell you. It's not uncommon for people to start getting up or, you know, 3.34 00:11:44.995 --> 00:11:51.721 - o'clock in the afternoon, but I'd say fireworks probably a little after nine would be my guess. Would 00:11:51.721 --> 00:11:58.578 - it help Kevin if you pass an ordinance to make the sun setting at a certain time? That's a whole nother 00:11:58.578 --> 00:12:05.435 - thing. Thank you. Thank you for doing the fireworks again. I have nothing. I don't have anything. Okay, 00:12:05.435 --> 00:12:06.622 - council comments. 00:12:09.698 --> 00:12:17.183 - As you can see, the agenda was very light this evening in preparation for a 645 combined meeting with 00:12:17.183 --> 00:12:24.814 - the Richland Township Trustees Board advisors. So seeing nothing further before this council will stand 00:12:24.814 --> 00:12:26.942 - adjourned for three minutes.