- Go ahead and call to order the Monday, August 10th, 2026 meeting of the Oldsville Town Council. Prayer,
- please. Thank you, Lord, for giving us this town, giving us, especially the people in it, and giving
- us the wisdom and the humility to properly lead it and to be able to handle everybody's wants and needs
- for the betterment of everyone. So in your name, amen.
- Jesus, amen. Pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
- for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call,
- please. Scott Oldham. Here. Dan Swafford. Here. William Ellis. Here. Trevor Sager. Here. Pamela Samples. Here.
- from the 7-13-2026 meeting and the 7-27-2026 meeting. Make a motion to approve the minutes from July
- 13th and July 27th, 2026 town council meetings. I'll second. Motion and several seconds. All those in
- favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstaining? Next is action to pay accounts, payroll vouchers and
- payroll vouchers. So moved. Second. Motion second. All those in favor say aye.
- Aye. Opposed? Abstaining. Next on the agenda is a proclamation for the Chandler Funeral Home 50-year
- celebration. What about the proclamation? Do I just read it, or is there any introduction you guys want
- beforehand? Just read it. Okay. All right. It's a proclamation from the town of Ellisville, Monroe County,
- Indiana. To all present, let it be known. Whereas Chandler Funeral Homes was founded in August 1976 by G.L.
- Chandler,
- with a steadfast commitment to providing compassionate, dignified, and professional care to individuals
- and families during life's most difficult moments. And whereas for 50 years, from August 1976 through
- August 2026, G.L. Chandler and the dedicated staff of Chandler Funeral Homes have faithfully served
- generations of families with kindness, integrity, and respect, earning the trust and confidence of Ellisville
- community and the surrounding area.
- And whereas Chandler Funeral Homes has compassionately guided thousands of families through times of
- loss, helping them honor the lives and legacies of their loved ones with dignity, professionalism, and
- unwavering care. And whereas beyond the professional services, GL Chandler and Chandler Funeral Homes
- have demonstrated an enduring commitment to the community through their support of local organizations,
- civic events,
- charitable causes, and countless efforts that have strengthened the town of Ellitsville and improved
- the lives and residence. And whereas reaching a 50-year milestone reflects exceptional dedication,
- resilience, service, and stands as a testament to the value of compassion, integrity, and community
- that have defined Chandler Funeral Homes since its founding.
- Now, therefore, the town council of the town of Ellisville does hereby and recognize the 50th anniversary
- of Chandler Funeral Homes and extends a sincere appreciation to G.L. Chandler, his family, and the entire
- staff of Chandler Funeral Homes for five decades of outstanding service, compassionate care, and unwavering
- commitment to the families and citizens of our community.
- The town council congratulates Chandler Funeral Homes on this remarkable milestone and offers its best
- wishes for continued success and many more years for dedicated service adopted this day, 10th of August,
- 2026. So thank you very much. Congratulations to Chandlers.
- For this evening, there are no resolutions. There's an ordinance on first reading, which has me a little
- bit confused. Ordinance 2026-13 to amend the employee handbook to convert unused holiday hours to floating
- holiday hours for employees of the police department. Is this not the second time we've heard this?
- Well, I amended it, and what you have in front of you is the amended version. But since I circulated
- that, there's been a question about call out time and how that's to be treated. So I need some guidance
- from the council on that.
- So the change from last time was, as you're aware, the police department asked or the marshal asked
- for a change to be made that states that employees of the police department who work 40 hours a week
- and work a holiday will receive the normal rate of pay. After that, I was asked to add some language
- about employees who work 40 hours and work on a holiday will receive holiday pay and one and one half
- times the regular rate of pay. Since then, I've had a question about call out time and where that falls
- into this, if it does.
- So. Just how that's handled, if it takes precedence over 40 hours plus holiday or if it makes a difference.
- It doesn't make a difference and it does take precedence, as far as I'm concerned. We've been doing
- it for the last 28 years and I didn't know it was a question. OK, so call out pay is just is going to
- be one and a half times, right?
- That's beyond the 40 hours. That's right. But when you get called out, if you're only out like 37 minutes,
- you get two hours. Everything after that is time and a half, which is more than it's two hours in one
- minute, two hours in two minutes. But you always get minimum two hours to call out. It's always been
- that. It's a straight rate. It's a straight rate. But it's a move point after.
- One hour and 37 minutes or something like that. Well, then if you're getting time in half, you're somewhere
- right in there. You get two hours and a minute. So it makes point of it. I guess I'm not sure. Not that
- it matters. I'm not sure where that fits in this holiday. It doesn't. I don't know why it's even. OK.
- Thank you. I was confused about that. OK.
- We need to let this one float two weeks or since we've already seen it. If you've already seen it, or
- since you've already seen it, if you're happy with the suggested change, you can pass it as amended.
- I'm happy. Council, what's your pleasure? We've been dealing with this for a while, so I mean, I just,
- if we're not, if delaying it is not going to make any changes, then
- If it's not, does council wish to pass this on the first reading, or do we want to hold it for two weeks
- just to see? But this is, I know at least the second or third time we discussed it. Yeah. What do you
- want to add? It's short. All right. I move that ordinance number, I get this here, 2026-13 be submitted
- for first reading. Second.
- Motion to second roll call please. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. I move that ordinance number
- twenty twenty six dash thirteen be adopted on the same day in which it's introduced motion second roll
- call please. Scott Holden yes.
- Dan Swafford? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Pamela Samples? Yes. Motion passes. I move
- that Ordinance Number 2026-13 be adopted. Second. Motion second. Roll call, please. Scott Oldham? Yes.
- Dan Swafford? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Trevor Sager? Yes. Pamela Samples? Yes. Motion passes. Okay.
- Thank you.
- There are no ordinances on second reading. There is no old business. Under new business, it's a discussion
- about the fire department open position. I'll try to make this as simple as possible. We'll start with
- I'd like to do both positions tonight if possible, but I'm going to do them separate because I think
- it'll make it a little easier. So the first one, I would like to bring the name Alex Halter to you.
- to fill one of our current full-time spots, offer him a contingent offer based on his PERF physical
- passing. He's got three years with us and been a good employee, no problems. So it's complete PERF packet,
- not just the physical, right? Correct, yes. Okay. Do you want to do the second one right now when we
- run separately, or do you want to wait? I think probably we'll want to make them separate. It'll make
- sense when I explain it.
- Okay, council. You said it was Alex Holter. Correct. Make a motion to approve Alex Holter becoming full-time
- firefighter. Correct. Contingent on him passing his complete perf packet. Second. Motion second,
- roll call. Scott Oldham. Yes. Dan Swafford. Yes. William Ellis. Yes. Trevor Sager. Yes. Pamela Samples.
- Yes. Motion passes. The second one, I will have a
- Open full-time position August 14th. I've already received a resignation letter from one of our firefighters
- was hired up in the Marion County area. And so I would like to offer Amelia Mercer this position contingent
- on one. We wouldn't send her for per physical or anything until after the 14th of August.
- Okay, go ahead. Because the position doesn't open until the morning of the 14th and then the PERF physical.
- So basically this allows me to go ahead and get the PERF physicals scheduled because there's a delay
- in getting those. Does that make sense? Yes. So for some reason. But you're not asking to hire her before
- she completes the PERF physical. Correct. It would be a contingent offer. So two things have to take
- place. One,
- It has to be the 14th or after, so that would clear out the existing firefighter that is resigning as
- the end of his shift on the 13th. That's his last day of employment. OK. Seems a little more complicated
- in my mind, but OK. That's the way you want to do it. I don't know why we need your way. I just don't
- know why we couldn't approve her tonight for that.
- Contingent upon an opening of occurring and her passing the purpose. I like that better Said motion
- made so Yeah I'll second that work for you Darla. Yes If it works for you and works for me roll call,
- please Yes, yes, yes Trevor Sager. Yes, Pamela samples. Yes motion passes Thank you. I just don't want
- you have to
- Let's play that juggling game. Now we'll move to privilege of the floor. Anyone having business for
- the council not part of our normal agenda? Step up to the microphone, please. Sign in, tell us who you
- are. You have a three minute time limit. Hi, my name's David Bauer, and I live on the cusp of Ellitsville
- by Bender Lumber, and we're having an issue with the SIP, the new bar that has opened.
- We're having a problem with noise pollution and light pollution and also trash and loitering. I kind
- of would like to know what the standard for occupancy both inside the building as well as on the patio
- is. According to SILCRO 93.45, there's loud and unnecessary noise prohibited as well as 93.46.
- prohibited noises 50 foot rule. We are a residential area right behind it and when they have their loud
- music it's just we hear it all the time and when we ask them politely if they can turn the music down
- they just actually turn it up louder so it's just become this kind of issue that we've been having and
- I think it started pretty much on the
- weekend of July, the end of July, where they had karaoke for five hours, and we had to endure this till 11 p.m.
- So according to Bloomington, they have a noise ordinance till 10 p.m. I'd like to see that happen in
- Ellsville too, because it is really an issue for us in that neighborhood, so. So. Okay, thank you.
- Thank you. Anyone else? Step up, sign in. Do I have to sign in? Yes, ma'am. Sorry, I thought I saw you do it.
- Yeah, my name's Jay Richardson. As you know, my core, I live. This is like a written store.
- Ingrid's right, the sound level is just off the charts. When they started building this beer pub, it
- was kind of nice. It was kind of a cool thing. But it didn't turn out like they quite said it was going
- to be. They suggested that it was just going to be a small,
- Tap Room, and it's turned out to be Deer Creek. There's music every weekend, both nights. And we live
- 50 feet from the place. And the karaoke is just a, hello? I'd just like some clarification as to what's
- permitted.
- The sound level is, like I said, is really high. I think we might have gotten the lights maybe taken
- care of as far as that goes. We'll see. But, you know, parking is a situation, is an issue. You know,
- they park over at Bender Lumber, which I found out today that Bender Lumber doesn't really have an issue
- with that, unfortunately. But the problem with it is,
- opens them up to having music venue that, you know, it's unlimited people. How many do you want to have
- there? But that's our concerns. My wife and I's concerns is, my biggest concern is the sound level.
- So, I'd like to see that looked at. And the other issue was, I think a couple weekends ago,
- I warned Greg, one of the owners, that most likely one of the neighbors will call the police on him.
- with that sound level, and they did. And they issued them a $25 ticket, which did absolutely nothing.
- They didn't turn it down. They paid the ticket, then find out that they only issue one ticket a day.
- Well, what's to keep them from just keep playing it as long as they want? That doesn't seem right. $25.
- I'll pay you that right up front.
- You know, I don't want to shut them down, obviously, because I don't want the property sitting empty
- right in front of my house. But by the same token, I'm thinking, you know, with that sound level, how
- in the world would ever sell my house? You know, it devalued it instantly. So I think it's just something
- to consider and to look at to see, you know, what should be done or could be done. OK. So. Thank you
- so much. Anyone else?
- Tracy Richardson, Jay Richardson's wife. I also have a concern that we do have a permanent easement
- through the SIP, which causes traffic issues in trespassing. People parking and blocking the easement,
- even though we do have the adjoining easement to from the Bender area to the private drive. But we had
- put notes, signs, no trespassing because we had
- A couple weeks ago, people coming onto our property, coming from Bender, and driving through the easement,
- and it's been a big hassle. And that's a big concern, because when we have a medical emergency, which
- both my husband and I have, I've had breast cancer, he's had triple bypass. We don't need this.
- And if we have a medical emergency, the first place they're going to go is right through the easement,
- that easement there, because that was our primary drive. And also, you know, the privacy of our property,
- the lights, he thinks they're correct at which they have been shutting them off at night, which is nice,
- but they still reflect over onto our property. And we can't even enjoy our patio. We can't sit on our
- patio and enjoy
- our music, our time, and not have to see everything lit up in our backyard or our front yard as well.
- And then to top, the trash is not being contained in their trash cans, so when the guys come to pick
- the trash up, it's flying all in front of the property in the easement. So.
- I'm Julia Mobley. I'm the newest member of the neighborhood. My husband and I moved in in May of this
- year. Beautiful little neighborhood. We thought it was quiet, quaint, back off the road. We were told
- it was a pub, which didn't detour us from buying the property because we thought, okay, it's a pub.
- How many people can fit in that little building? Well, it's escalated.
- Oh, every weekend it's getting bigger and bigger. Bigger bands, more people, more noise. I'm the one
- that called the police because that's what I was told to do by my, I can't remember his last name,
- I'm sorry, I'm new to the neighborhood. But it's so loud at our house and we're next door to Tracy and
- I don't know how they stand it. I can hear it in our living room with our TV on
- And that's the opposite end of our home. And it just, the last Saturday night, the noise just kept getting
- louder and louder and louder. And then it, I don't know, after they get all drunk or what it is,
- I don't know. I'm not against people drinking. I'm not against this being a little pub, but it just
- seems like it's growing and there's more people and I'm worried about security for our neighborhood.
- You know, we're just right down the road. People get drinking and you don't know what they might or
- might not do. We're actually gonna install a security system because of this, because I've never lived
- in a neighborhood where I was concerned about my safety. My husband and I are, we've been in the Ellitsville,
- our boys went to Ellitsville. We know Ellitsville. We've been in the area and I've never, I just, I'm
- baffled that this is even happening in right in the middle of 46 in Ellitsville.
- Because it's not a quiet little quaint place of a pub that we were told it was going to be. So I'm concerned
- about our security. I'm concerned about the noise and what it's going to do to our property value. Because
- if I'd have known this, I would have never had the house. I mean, and I hate to say that. It's a beautiful
- area. I don't know if you know where we are back in there.
- It's a little gem and Elksfield's a nice community and I hate to see these things happen to the community.
- Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Good job, honey. Anyone else? Privilege of the floor. Seeing none, we'll
- move now to council or supervisor comments, I'm sorry. Starting with town manager.
- That rounds it out nicely. Council comments. I guess I just, with the public comment, just want to Darla,
- what's our noise ordinance, the times again? Well, it's 6 to 11 is the quiet time, but the first speaker
- correctly cited the code section that discusses
- Prohibition of playing musical instruments, among other things, in such a way as to disturb the peace
- and quiet and comfort of the neighboring inhabitants at any time with louder volume than is necessary
- for convenient hearing for the person or persons who are in the room, vehicle or chamber in which the
- machine or device is operated. And so the procedure is, if it's plainly audible at a distance of 50
- feet from the building
- vehicle or structure, it's prima facie evidence of a violation. Okay. And to the police, so $25 is the
- most we can give? Under the current code section, yes. It's a Class E ordinance violation. Will you
- say something? Go ahead. Yeah, please. So I'm aware of the problem, and I was made aware of it last
- week. Yes. Yeah. And so I reached out to the owners.
- I talked to one owner that I think he's a silent partner, and I guess the other two people that own
- it were supposed to get back in town, and he was going to make sure they called me. That hasn't happened.
- It's Monday. But I've talked to the police about it. I've talked to planning about it, and I intend
- to look at it.
- and see how we can mitigate it. I mean, you know, I agree. It was supposed to be a pub. They've done
- a really nice job of making the place look nice. But we've got civilians running up against commercial,
- and it's a problem. So I hope to be able to come up with a solution that'll make everybody happy. I've
- seen the pictures of the lights, and the lights are off the charts too bright. And so I've just
- We haven't resolved it. I haven't talked to the owners, but we are working on it, just so you know.
- OK. There is also fencing on the outside of the pub. That butts up against one of the properties. OK.
- And I mean, it's right there. There isn't any, other than the easement itself, there isn't any space.
- So I, too, have looked at it. And so we're hoping that that fencing can extend and maybe hold not only
- the noise, but the light in that immediate area. And so it's an ongoing situation. We hope to have it
- resolved as soon as possible. OK. What time does the music start and stop?
- I live right there too. I think it depends on what they have going on with with with what their program
- is who they have scheduled as bands, who the bands are. So it's going to vary. I mean, is it mostly
- weekends or are they doing it.
- I haven't heard of music, but it's bright, and if it's as loud as it is bright, I can, you know, it's
- a problem. I live right by tractor supply, so I'll keep an ear out, too, and see if I can hear it. Can
- I add one thing real quick? If you come to the mic. Yeah. Also, has anyone checked with
- and see if they've got their outside seating permit with excise. Well, you can bet excise is checkered.
- Oh, sorry, Mike. Go ahead. I was just going to suggest the issue wasn't really that bad until they started
- having bands there. When they start having bands with drummers and bass players, that's when the sound
- levels got to automatically go up. And they're outside? They're outside, yeah.
- But if they stick to acoustic guitars, which is what we thought it was going to be, a singer-songwriter
- kind of venue, it's not bad. But I mentioned to Greg, one of the owners, that the cops might get called
- on tonight. It was a 10-piece band with horns and drums. Really? It was so loud in my house, my walls
- were shaking.
- and I'm recovering from his surgery and I was about to explode. But anyways, if they kept it
- as a singer-songwriter thing, that would be fine, but still keeping the volume in check, but to a certain
- degree. And Greg mentioned to me, well, he planned on having something that you and I could sit down
- and have a beer and hear each other and not have to yell over the band. So that's not happening.
- So I think if they did do that, that would be nice. As far as building the fence higher, you probably
- weren't around here at the time, but Mike was. I don't want to see cinema west over there either,
- you know? I don't want to see these 20-foot walls of fence. I don't think those were there for the noise.
- I agree, they were. I was just talking visually. Well, not even visually.
- But. Well, I think the proper thing is for the town, which will be me to talk to the owners and then
- I can see you. OK. Maybe I'll try to make it happen before Friday night. And that's fine. I don't you
- know, I don't want any argument with them. No, no, I get it. It's it's it's a growing pains of a small
- town. But I want them to be successful. But somebody that's already lived here
- and lights are quiet nights, I can see where it could be a problem. I saw the light, the lighting itself
- was, it looked like close encounters or something. Yeah, yeah, okay. Okay, I'll come see you, I promise.
- Okay, okay, you go around that. I do. Other council comments? Seeing no further business for the council,
- we're adjourned.