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- We will call to order the Monday, October 12th, 2026 Meet the Allensville Town Council. Pray. Dear Heavenly

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- Father, please bless us with both wisdom and humility in the decisions we make for this town and for

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- our residents. And make sure that we put their needs, both all needs, except yours. In your name, amen.

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- Chief. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

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- and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice

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- for all. Roll call whenever you're ready. Scott Oldham. Yes, here. Dennis Walford. William Ellis. Here.

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- Trevor Sager. Pamela Samples. Here. Minutes from the 928-2026 town council meeting. So moved.

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- Motion second, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any abstaining? Action to pay accounts,

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- payable vouchers, and payroll vouchers. So moved. Second. Motion second, all those in favor say aye.

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- Aye. Anyone opposed? Any abstaining? There are two resolutions this evening, the first being resolution

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- 25-2026 authorizing the DLGF and Clerk Treasurer to make the necessary 2027 budget adjustments pending

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- the outcome of the proposed reorganization.

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- this resolution would allow your clerk treasurer to make, submit, or request such adjustments to the

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- town's 2027 budget forms as are necessary to implement the budget depending on whether or not

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- the reorganization referendum passes or not. So it offers alternatives to the clerk treasurer so that

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- you don't have to go back and re-advertise the budget, reopen the budget,

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- and your budget is due obviously before the results of the referendum will be known. So if the reorganization

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- referendum passes, then any reorganization related appropriations will remain as adopted by council

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- during the budget. The budget amounts for the Ellitsville Richland Township Fire Protection Territory

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- will be removed from the budget and the town will move forward under the newly reorganized structure

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- as outlined in the plan. If the reorganization referendum does not pass,

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- Then the Ellisville Richland Township Fire Protection Territory budget remains as adopted by council.

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- All town budgets, other than that for fire protection, will revert to 2026 maximum levy levels with

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- the 2027 maximum levy growth factor applied, thus allowing all proposed increases related to reorganization

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- to be removed from the budget. The town of Ellisville will continue to operate under its current governmental

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- structure as a town. And then the Ellisville Richland Fire

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- Ellitsville Richland Township Fire Protection Tory will move forward as approved by the Council and

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- the Township Board back in March of this year. That's the questions from Council. Anything from the

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- public? Seeing nothing online, back to Council. I move that we pass Resolution 25-2026

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- A resolution authorizing the Ellisville clerk treasurer to make necessary 2027 budget adjustments pending

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- the outcome of the proposed reorganization. Second. Motion to second. Roll call when you're ready. Yes.

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- Yes. Pamela Samples. Yes. Motion passes. Next is Resolution 26-2026, police additional appropriation

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- from the drug grant.

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- This was submitted by the police department for $21,500 for the Drug Education Equipment Grant. Also

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- in the packet is the grant that was submitted with the proposal for the additional appropriation. If

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- you noticed in the packet with the accounts payable, we already have two for drone accessories.

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- for $13,792.09 and $2,699.10. I did want to note to the council that for transparency purposes, we created

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- the 2404-4374 radar arms and equipment in that equipment drug grant fund that had previously not been

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- there to receipt the funds in and also expense them out. Questions from council?

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- So is the money already in there now or how? Correct. So we have to appropriate. Any direct questions

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- about the grant would be directed at the police department, though. I just know about the expenditures.

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- What are we doing? So we were able to get the grant for two additional drones. They came in literally

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- two days before the parade.

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- were able to get them up and running and use them at the parade and it was a major asset to be able

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- to get it up and we could see the entire parade route from our command center. So it'll be a great asset,

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- not only for our department, but for any other departments in the county that might need help.

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- Thank you. Okay, any other questions? Anything from the public? And back to council. You wanna do this one?

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- to approve resolution 26-2026, police additional appropriation for the drug rent fund. I'll second.

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- I'm sorry. Motion and second. Whenever you're ready. I drank at the wrong time. Scott Oldham? Yes. William

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- Ellis? Yes. Pamela Samples? Yes. Motion passes.

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- There are two ordinances on first reading this evening. The first ordinance is Ordinance 2026-16 to

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- establish a moratorium on the reclassification of residential property from Rural Service District to

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- Town District after reorganization. So I was asked to put together an ordinance that would essentially

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- establish a moratorium on shifting certain residential properties from the Rural Taxing District

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- to the urban taxing district for some period of time after reorganization if it passes in order to give

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- a couple of election cycles to run through so that, how do I say this? Before any property is moved

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- from rural to urban, you'll have a full town council with the two new members that has gone through

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- a full election cycle. So in any event,

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- What this particular ordinance states is that as of January 1st, 2027, a moratorium on reclassification

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- shall be in effect and no property that is zoned residential R1, R2, or R3 and located in the rural

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- district shall be reclassified to the town district unless the owner of the property has submitted a

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- written petition. The moratorium will not apply to property zoned commercial or industrial,

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- or property that is subdivided, platted, or developed at the owner's request consistent with the unified

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- development ordinance or other town ordinances. And what I envision happening is that if there's a request

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- to transfer property from rural to urban, the request will first go to the plan commission and the planning

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- department for its thoughts on whether or not it's appropriate, given the services that are being provided

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- before that request comes before town council.

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- for consideration. Furthermore, the ordinance states that the ordinance may be amended or repealed only

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- upon the affirmative vote of the two at-large council members who will be the former township board

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- members in addition to an affirmative vote of at least three of the remaining town council members.

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- It terminates automatically if the reorganization does not pass, and it expires of its own accord as

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- of January 1st, 2031, if the reorganization referendum passes. Okay. Questions, comments? Any comments

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- from the public?

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- I'm Andrew Henry. I strongly support this ordinance. I'm actually really grateful for how quickly the

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- town council was able to move on this. This has been a fairly recent point of some concern, especially

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- from township residents that I've talked to about whether or not there is a window of opportunity after

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- reorganization passes for an unbalanced council to unilaterally force properties into the urban service area.

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- Ordinances are not the Indiana State Constitution. They are revocable. They can be modified and they

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- can be removed with a proper majority. But I'm very grateful that we are putting this in place because

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- while I believe in trust, I'm also very glad to have rules. And confidence in the reorganization process

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- depends partly on very clear guidelines. And this was an area where the plan, while not attempting to

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- spell out every detail, did leave a fairly large question

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- of how that would work after your organization passes, and so I'm very glad to see this resolved and

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- I support it. Thanks. Anyone else? No, do you need a chair? No, I'll be fine, thanks.

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- Don Dornal, current Township Trustee Board Member. I agree with everything that Mr. Henry said. I think

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- that some of the Township residences were concerned about that, about the issue of us not having a majority.

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- and that things could be pushed through concerning their property that they were not willing to have.

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- So I do think this is a very good ordinance to have in place. So thank you. Thanks. Okay. Anyone else?

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- Back to Council. All right. I am normally for the public that we know, normally ordinances on first

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- reading, we got to go to second reading, but there is a procedure in Indiana law so we can

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- move and pass it. One of the reasons this ordinance came together so quick is because some of the chatter

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- about us doing things against the will of the township residents that's never even on our radar, so

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- it never came up. So what this does, first of all, let me outline the concern. The concern was that

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- if you live in a single family home or an apartment complex, that day one,

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- we were going to make a move to put you into the higher taxed urban district. That's never been on anybody's

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- agenda. We've pretty much said new construction or by petition, and that would not qualify

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- as new construction. The second thing is that this, the concern was that any votes like that, the whole

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- township should be able to vote on the reps before decisions like that are made.

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- for existing residents. And I think the whole council agrees. And I know I've had no resistance from

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- people I've reached out to on the reorganization committee. And I think this just clarifies what our

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- original intent was. And a lot of things have happened. I always make a joke that a meteor could hit

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- tomorrow. We can't plan for that. It just happens. And this was not something that was brought up during

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- the reorganization process. And I think that if you talk to anyone involved,

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- you'll not find anyone say that was our intention to do what the fear-mongering has said we would do.

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- So with that, I move that Ordinance Number 2026-16 be submitted for first reading. Second. Motion to

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- second. Scott Holden. Yes. William Ellis. Yes. Emma Sienkos. Yes. Motion passes.

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- I move that ordinance number 2026-16 be adopted on the same day in which it is introduced. Second. Motion

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- and second. Scott Oldham. Yes. William Ellis. Yes. Pamela Samples. Yes. Motion passes. I move that ordinance

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- number 2026-16 be adopted. Second. Motion and second. Will you ready? Scott Oldham. Yes. William Ellis.

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- Yes. Pamela Samples.

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- Motion passes. Move on now to Ordinance 2026-17 to establish salaries for the 2027 budget. Yes, sir.

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- This is the 2027 budget year salary ordinance. I did want to say for public awareness and to clarify

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- that the biweekly amounts listed in the salary ordinance represent base pay. It's not necessarily an

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- employee's total compensation.

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- Additional compensation such as longevity, certification pay, overtime, and other applicable pay is

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- not reflected in those biweekly figures. So if somebody is looking on the 100R report on the gateway,

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- that's where you're gonna see the total compensation per employee. And in the packets for the council,

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- I do have listed individuals, so you can see, but again, that doesn't include the longevity or any overtime

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- or anything

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- certification wise. Back to council. 2026 dash 17 to establish salaries for the 2027 budget. A second

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- motion second. Quick question. This is on the first reading. Are we wanting to do the same process?

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- We got off track, that's on me. It's okay. So this is just first reading, it will come back at the next

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- reading. Awesome. There are no ordinances, I'm sorry, we had double typo here. There were no ordinances

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- on second reading, there was no old business. Under new business, we have the MCI interlocal agreement.

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- As you're aware, the town has a interlocal agreement with the county to operate a major crash investigation team.

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- The team consists of four officers from the county, two officers from the town. The major crash investigation

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- team can be activated by the sheriff's department upon notification of a major crash. The funding for

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- this crash investigation team comes through the Indiana Criminal Justice Institute, and this agreement

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- and the grant allows the town to submit claims for

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- training costs, travel time, and also to reimburse the officers when they've worked overtime to respond

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- to a major crash. And you've seen this agreement before. This is a renewal of the agreement. There were

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- some minor changes that the county attorney's office suggested, and those are highlighted in yellow.

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- But that's the nutshell version of the major crash investigation team agreement.

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- Deputy Chief, do you have anything to say? I just want to add that for the year, the team has responded

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- to 12 crashes, seven of which were involving fatalities. And they spent $18,000 of their $20,000 grant

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- money for the year. Questions from counsel? Anything from the public? Sir, step up, please.

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- My name is Jim Perry. I'm from Ellisville, Abigail Lane. I hate acronyms. MCI stands for what? It ought

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- to be spelled out in the agenda for the meeting so that we know what we're talking about. MCI stands for?

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- Okay, that would it would be better for citizens to be able to read major crass Investigation team there

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- would be MCI which we don't have a clue what it means Thank you Okay seeing none back counsel Yeah, I believe

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- All right. I'll move to approve the Monroe County Crash Investigative Unit Interlocal Agreement. I'll

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- second it. Scott Goldham? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Kamala Samples? Yes. Motion passes. Next is the Monroe

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- County Animal Control Interlocal Agreement.

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- County has had with the county for many years now. It is renewed annually and the the way that the costs

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- are determined is the county makes an effort to determine how many animals have been picked up or surrendered

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- and of those how many come from the town of Ellisville. And so then the costs that are assigned to the town are

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- assigned based on a percentage basis of how many animals are surrendered. So this year, the 2027 interlocal

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- cost calculations for the town are $43,053. I budgeted at exact amount because I received it in May.

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- I did want to note for the council that we've seen a substantial increase on this as far as the price

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- per animal. In 2025, we

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- The agreement amount was $23,158.30. For 2026, if you remember, I had to bring an additional appropriation

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- back before you because we didn't receive the agreement last year until after the budget had been presented,

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- and that was for $37,492.00. And I should correct myself. It's the city's shelter, but the county and

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- the town assist in funding it.

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- through this agreement. Correct. We're actually paying the county, correct? Yes. So again, this is $43,000,

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- correct? Correct. So we're paying almost $400 per animal, whether we called animal control to come get

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- them or whether they were surrendered. I'm not sure how they make the difference between animal control

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- pickup, surrender, and stray. Who brought in the stray?

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- Is it a surrender? Is it an animal control? I mean, how are we getting, I have no issue with necessarily

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- paying for this. It's a question of the equitability. And so just to give everybody a picture, Eltsville

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- had 10 that animal control came and picked up. They had 34 that were surrenders where it's the owners

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- taking it to the shelter and surrendering it. It's 69 strays for 113. So of that, we're going to pay

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- $43,000 plus.

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- where it lists counties other than Monroe, clearly Animal Control didn't go pick them up, but

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- 362 surrendered, 241 strays, for a total of 603, yet those counties are not assessed any dollar figure,

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- and they are almost six times, five plus times greater than what the town of Ellsville is. I spoke to

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- Mr. Cockrell about the, I don't know if it was last year or the year before, the reason

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- and I hope I'm not misquoting him or giving you bad information, but the reason that the county still

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- accepts the animals, even if they're coming from other counties like Lawrence or Brown, is because they

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- just, number one, they don't want the strays out, running the streets, bothering people, and they figure

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- that it's maybe kinder to bring the animals in as opposed to

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- I'm just telling you what Mr. Cockrell told me, that's where that's coming from. And I don't necessarily,

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- and without straying into territory I don't want to go to, I don't begrudge that. We should be doing

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- the right thing for the animals. I don't mind helping to pay for that. It's just that when our total

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- is some five times less, and yet we're paying $43,000, but yet there are other areas in the county that

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- are incorporated that are not paying anything according to this sheet.

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- to me is some equitability problems, but then again, that's an issue between those people and the county

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- as a whole, not us. So. One thing, since I'm on the Animal Control Board with the Council's permission,

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- I would like to get some information on whether we're soliciting the surrender and strays to other counties,

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- because this number seems extremely high just for random people walking in.

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- But when you think about it, I don't believe Owen County has a county run animal shelter that have a

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- humane society. I don't know what Lawrence County has, whether it's animal control or I don't know what

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- Green County has. So again, I think being humane that the people who get these things, you know, get

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- these animals in a situation where they can't care for them, where they found them, you know, they get

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- them in that situation where they have to have something to do with them. And I do get that. I don't

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- want to not help. I'm just, again,

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- questioning the cost breakdown and how it spread out amongst everyone. And a couple years ago I did

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- bring this up and what they had told me is that since they factor in the out-of-county stuff with the

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- total, it lowers our average per animal, plus they also only factor in 70% of the budget, which kind

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- of is like they're estimating 30% from other counties.

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- of the budget, so they try to take care of it that way. I guess my concern is, do we, are we, and this

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- I didn't ask, and I'm going to the next animal control meeting, I get that people other counties need

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- an option, but are we advertising out there in those places saying, hey, come to Bloomington to drop

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- them off? I don't necessarily think that's appropriate. Well, again, not to, you know, take a different

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- tactic, I would almost rather do that than

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- Yeah, I do agree. I just I'm just questioning the I Guess the dollar figure as it works because it seems

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- like we're always we always have this question I mean if we had a huge amount of animal control runs

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- Absolutely, because we're paying for that person's time their gas to whatever right but 10 is not even

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- one per month You know the surrenders I get the strays again. Where do we come across those? Is that

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- animal control run? Is that somebody taking them? I don't know what we're doing that breakdown line

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- And again, this question's come up before. Just because you have an Ellsville address doesn't necessarily

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- mean you're in the town of Ellsville currently. Hopefully, at the first of the year, that will be different.

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- But just like the Ellsville Fire Department actually has a Bloomington address. So when they say, where'd

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- you surrender this from? Well, I'm from whatever the address is for the Fire Department. Oh, Bloomington,

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- check. No, it's an Ellsville facility. So do we have some of that going on where there's people at Ellsville

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- address that don't live in the town that work? I can find that out, too.

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- It would just be interesting to know. But with that said, any further questions from Council? Anything

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- from the public? Back to Council for action. I did not see that. Step up, please.

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- This is an issue in which I would like to see us have further conversations, and certainly William has

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- done some, you're on the animal control board, is it? And that's a county-wide, yeah. But clearly, it

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- would be useful, I think, to have the person that's asking for the money from the animal control services,

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- or animal services, whatever we call it,

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- present at one of these meetings so we can have this back and forth in this conversation. And that would,

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- I think, inform not only the council, which I think needs further information about this, as the decision

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- maker about budget authority, but also citizens who would like to know what's happening. I mean,

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- one of the, you know, I watch a lot of Judge Judy and I see these $5,000 cases with animal bites and other.

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- and other things. So 400 is small potatoes compared to what the cost could be, not only to the animals,

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- and we want to protect the animals, but also the citizens who might be jeopardized by... We need to

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- work on this microphone. It's annoying. We need a microphone where when someone speaks normally, it

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- responds appropriately.

00:27:47.682 --> 00:27:56.424
- Mike. But I will ask Virgil Saunders, who runs the shelter, if he's not the one that can answer these

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- questions, get me the person that can. Next year, I think, would be a good time for them to come in

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- here and explain. This is on the agenda tonight. It's not a first or second reading. It's a new business.

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- As an interlocal agreement, but this is something that would have been worthwhile to have talked about

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- Months ago before in this very body in this very bill a room. So Thank you No one online back to counsel

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- Okay, I move to approve Monroe County animal control interlocal agreement I

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- Motion is second. Whenever you're ready, please. Scott Holdham? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. Pamela Samples?

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- Yes. Motion passes. If, however, you could get some of those answers to better inform us for next year,

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- that would be great. Absolutely. Next is Fire Department vacancy positions. Fire Department currently

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- has one full-time position that is open. And on the 23rd of October, we'll have a second one open.

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- So what I would like to do, we just went through a hiring process and did all the testing and so forth

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- and we've got some good candidate that's still on the list. So I would like permission to take the next

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- two and offer them a contingent offer of employment based on successful completion of their per physical.

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- Questions? I do have names if you want those. The first one is Coleman Chastain, and the second one

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- is Corbin Tai. And this is being offered contingent upon successful completing all processes of the

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- application process up to and including the PERF physical and mental exams. That is correct. So background,

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- the whole nine yards, they have to pass all of that before? That is correct.

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- Okay. All right. Motions for council. I will let the public know we're laughing because we got the names

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- mixed up. We both thought we heard something different, but so I will move to just approve both department

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- vacant positions as stated for the record from Chief Pat. Coleman, Chastain and Corbin tie. Okay. Second.

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- Motion is second.

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- Yes. William Ellis. Yes. Pamela Samples. Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Next is privilege of Florida.

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- Anyone have a business of the council not part of the normal agenda this evening? No one online, no

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- one in chambers. We'll now move to supervisory comments. I'd just like to say I appreciate the board's

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- quick movement on the establishment of a moratorium on the reclassification. Thanks to Darla for the

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- quick work.

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- I really appreciate you guys taking care of that so quickly. Thank you. Chief. Just real quick, we do

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- have another grant to Smithville to try to attain funds for two speed signs that we could put up around

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- town to let people know just how fast they're going or if they are following the speed limit. Awesome.

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- Thank you. Chief, nothing for you. Thank you.

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- chime in with Shannon. I'm still working on, it's been kind of hard to do whenever he's trying to compare

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- apples to apples with a radar type, not two type traffic counter. And the one that I'm wanting, they're

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- a sole providing company. There's no one other one out there like this, the one I'm wanting to try to

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- get. But it not only reads traffic counts, but it also does the

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- speed as well. So I can track speed and traffic count as well. So I do have money budgeted earmarked

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- for that to try to do before the end of the year. And the only difference between that and his is yours

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- is not visible to the public. Yeah, mine will not be visible. It will not show them a speed of what

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- they're driving down the road. It'll just be a box that's probably about that big that I can mount on a

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- signpost or a utility pole anywhere as long as I got a 45 degree angle to the road to be able to track

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- the vehicle. Awesome. I just wanted to remind the public that our budget adoption meeting is Monday,

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- October the 19th at 6.30 PM, which will be next Monday. It's outside of our regular meeting schedule.

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- So I just wanted to remind the public again about that. Anything further?

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- Okay. Council comments. Just that I hope the public knows that we adopt a budget. We also are going

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- to feed it and take care of it and give it a home. So it's a proper adoption. Wow. Okay. They don't

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- bump dad jokes for the win. Seeing no further business for the council, we're adjourned.
