- I'm Dave Willoughby. I'm calling the meeting to order of the Brisbane Township Board and other board
- members is Dawn Durham and Jenny Trasher. And I am Scott Oldham with the Ellsfield Town Council and
- I will call our meeting to order and certify that we do have a quorum present with William Ellis and
- Dan Swofford also in attendance.
- Mike, where do you want to go from here? Well, I think in the interest of the public, I think maybe
- some of the people, Baker, Tilley, maybe just around, let us let everybody know who we are. That's fine.
- I'll start with myself. Thanks for everybody coming to a proposed government reorganization meeting.
- work session. There will be no comment or questions from the audience and we are here to receive information.
- My name is Michael Farmer. I'm Jeff Farmer, I represent the town of Eltsville from Biden Fentanyer Utilities.
- I'm the main slide, the player for the town. I'm Kip Heddy and I'm the director of the public works
- Wow Darla Brown town attorney Dan Swofford town council
- Scott Oldham, Town Council. William Ellis, Town Council, Ward 2. David Willoughby, Township Board. Dawn
- Dornal, Township Board. Jay Thrasher, Township Board. Go ahead. Okay, well, so I think we really ought
- to just get into it, and then that will lead to discussion. Baker Tilly, who's been with us for probably
- more than three decades, they are our financial consultants, and they have a presentation.
- I think one of the things that will always be of interest is what's this cost and how do you do it and
- the fiscal impact. So that is how we're going to start the meeting with Paige's presentation.
- Thank you, Paige. Thanks, Mike. And thanks, everyone, for being here. Good afternoon. This is a short
- presentation just to talk about
- governmental reorganization, what it is, and we also have an illustrative example. So first off, what
- is governmental reorganization? It is a tool that has allowed local government units in Indiana to reorganize.
- There's a statute, it's Indiana Code 36-1.5 that covers the mechanism to merge, reorganize, create a
- new taxing unit. Who can establish or who can go through this process? Two or more adjacent counties,
- municipalities, townships, school corporations, or special taxing districts. Why would you reorganize?
- It's really to improve efficiency
- and enhance cooperation. Those are the two major reasons for reorganization. So there are many steps
- involved in reorganizing local government. This is not an all-inclusive list, but I think the main object
- of this list, I know it's hard to read, there's a lot of words here, is just to show you that there
- are lots of steps. It can take a year or more to complete.
- In this particular timeline, and this is just an example timeline, by the way, nothing's set in stone
- at this point, but starting in January through April, that's when you can start developing a reorganization
- plan, and that plan is developed by a reorganization committee with several subcommittees that really
- look at and review each service provided by both the township and the town.
- Then sometime in May, you might have public hearings to discuss and revise the reorganization plan.
- There's lots of input needed when developing a plan such as this. In June, or at least three months
- before a general election, we would need to submit a fiscal impact analysis of the reorganization to
- the state, to the Department of Local Government Finance.
- They will have time to review that within 30 days before the election, the DLGF will provide to us any
- comments that they may have. Then in July, there would be additional public hearings and a final adoption.
- So the Township Board and the Town Council would need to officially adopt the reorganization plan. And
- around August,
- that plan would need to be certified and filed with the clerk of each reorganizing entity, the county
- auditor, the county recorder, the county voter registration office, and then also the state, the Department
- of Local Government Finance. Then in September, to get ready for the election, we would notify the county
- election board and prepare a ballot, the ballot language. Basically, it would be a question as to whether
- this reorganization should take place.
- The language of that question that will be put on the ballot has to be approved by the Department of
- Local Government Finance, so we need to submit that for approval. Then we would have, again, the DLGF
- within 30 days of the election would need to approve our fiscal impact analysis that's part of that
- reorganization plan.
- November would be the general election where the question would be put on the ballot and the taxpayers
- would have an opportunity to vote for or against the reorganization. If that should happen, it's possible
- that the reorganization could be effective January 1, 2027. However, it depends on a couple things.
- One is, you know, if that's what you have in your plan of reorganization, you can pick the effective
- date, but it couldn't be any earlier than January 1st, 2027.
- and it just depends on if all the pieces and parts of the process are done as planned. Okay, so now
- we have this illustration. Again, I want everyone to know this is just for illustrative purposes. We
- have not sat down with either the town or the township to come up with any sort of budget, but this
- is just gonna give you an idea of what this could or may look like
- Obviously, we are not going to have any sort of final budget numbers until you decide to move forward
- one. And number two, you have your reorganization committees in place and your subcommittees and you
- start studying your services and really look at the fine detail. So again, this is only for illustrative purposes.
- So in 2026, this is our starting point, we looked at what services are provided by both the town and
- the township and what are the budgeted expenses for each of those services. So here is a chart that
- kind of outlines that. Fire right now is about $3 million. Police, approximately 2.2 million.
- Administration, which would basically be the Township Board, the Town Council, some other administrative
- activities, 1.3 million. Street maintenance, about 808,000. Planning and zoning, approximately 327,000.
- Township assistance, 183,000. Park and Rec, 102,000.
- redevelopment 27,000 and cemetery about 7,000. So that's kind of where we are today and all the services
- of the combined entities. So again, illustration of what it may look like after consolidation, we basically added
- added budgets to some of these items that we were told are very important as far as for your community.
- So fire and police got the largest increase in their budgets. Again, illustrative purposes only. And
- then some of the other areas where we provided increases as well, just to see what it would look like
- if we spread the costs out over this consolidated area. Not all the cost will be applied to the township.
- So we'll go through that in a minute. So post consolidation, here's what it could look like. FIRE could
- have a budget now of 3.9 million, police 3.1 million, and then the smaller increases go to administration,
- which includes redevelopment. We combined those two activities. That's 827,000 street maintenance, 809,000
- planning and zoning, 355,000.
- Township assistance, 201,000. Park and Rec, 102,000. And Cemetery pretty much stayed the same at 7,000.
- So the total increase from pre-consolidation to post-consolidation is about 1.3 million. And again,
- it doesn't have to be allocated as we've done here. We're just trying to illustrate what it might look
- like. So now, how would this affect the taxpayers under this particular illustration?
- So what we have to look at is the net impact to the district tax rates. So there's three taxing districts
- that would be impacted here. Richland, which is the unincorporated portion of Richland Township, that's
- Richland 011 as the taxing district number. Ellitsville Town 013 is the portion of Ellitsville
- lies within Richland Township and then Ellitsville Town 018 is the portion of the town that lies within
- Bean Blossom Township. So we look currently at the certified rates now, the certified district rates.
- So Richland is 1.5969. The two Ellitsville are pretty close. It's about $2.02. Estimated post-consolidation rates
- They do go up, so Richland Township, the rate would go up five cents, .0507. In Ellitsville, both taxing
- district, the rate goes up between 41 cents and 43 cents. Now that does not translate to an increase
- to your tax bill. I will get to that in a minute, but those are the rate increases for the district rate.
- So we also need to kind of explain the taxing structure. So when you consolidate or reorganize, your
- reorganization committee can determine which taxpayers will pay for which types of services. How we
- have it set out here is what we would typically see in a reorganization. Again, you all would have to
- make that determination. This is an illustration.
- So if you look at the first five tax rates up there, the Monroe County, Richland B. Blossom School,
- Monroe County Library, Solid Waste, Bean Blossom Township, those won't change. They don't have anything
- to do with this consolidation, so those rates would remain unchanged. The Ellitsville town reorganized,
- this is where we can have like urban areas and rural areas.
- So, for instance, if you look down here on fire, the line that says fire, all taxpayers within the current
- Richland Township in Ellisville would pay one single rate for fire services. But police, we assumed,
- in our illustration, that the county sheriff would continue to provide services in Richland Township
- and that the police rate would only be applied to
- how it is now to the taxpayers within the town. Admin, it makes complete sense that that would be spread
- out among all of the taxpayers. Because again, that takes care of the council, the reorganized entities
- council, the controller or the clerk treasurer. So that makes sense. Street, we assumed in this illustration that
- The county highway department would continue to maintain the roads that are in current Richland Township,
- so the Richland Township folks would not pay for that for the street department. Planning and zoning,
- currently, I've seen it both ways in reorganizations, but in our illustration we're saying that planning
- and zoning would not be assessed on those in the current Richland Township, only those in the town,
- but again, you can decide how you want to structure that.
- Township assistance would be spread to the whole area, and there is a typo on here because the people
- in 018, Ellisville Town 018 that's in Bean Blossom would not pay for an additional township assistance
- rate. They're already paying for the one in Bean Blossom, so that needs to be struck from this.
- Park and Rec, so Park and Rec
- We thought it would make sense and I think that's how it is now that that park rate would be spread
- over the entire Consolidated area Cemetery same thing all taxpayers would pay that rate There is a capital
- fund that the town currently has it's called a cumulative capital development fund we would assume that
- all taxpayers would pay that rate because
- Capital, improvements, equipment, et cetera that would be needed for the whole reorganized area would
- be paid typically from that fund. And then debt service is for some debt that the town currently has
- outstanding, the taxpayers in Richland Township would not pay for that debt. That debt has to remain
- with the current taxpayers.
- So now we're going to get into how would it impact some property values? So here we have three separate
- examples. The first example is a $150,000 home value. So if that home is currently located outside the
- town limits in Richland Township, that home value currently has a tax bill of about $987. Post consolidation,
- The tax bill would go up by $31. So that's about $2.61 if you break it out on a monthly basis. In Ellisville,
- the impact is a little bit higher because the tax rate impact is a little bit higher in the town. So
- in Ellisville, because the town's tax rate is higher than the township's tax rate, they already pay
- a higher tax bill. It's about $1,250 for each of the taxing districts.
- That would go up by about $250 to $1,500, which would put this particular property at the tax caps.
- So that works out to be about $21 a month. Now we move on to a $250,000 home value, and I believe that's
- pretty close to the average home value in these areas. So Richland Township
- for a $250,000 home value currently pays $1,955. That tax bill would go up $62, which is about $5 a
- month. The taxpayers in Ellisville town currently pay about $2,475. So it would go up to the tax cap
- limit of 2,500, which is out of 24, 25 to $28 increase, that's $2 a month.
- And then for a $350,000 home value, if it's located in Richland Township, the current tax bill is about
- $2,900. It would go up to, or it would go up by about $93, and that's $8 a month. Now, a $350,000 home
- value is already at the tax caps in Ellisville Town, so those taxpayers would not pay any more on their
- tax bill because they're at the tax caps.
- So if you're wondering what properties are at the tax caps currently, in Richland Township, you'd have
- to have a property with a value over 1.4 million for it to already be hitting the tax caps. In Ellitsville
- Town, it's roughly, depending on which part of Ellitsville, it's roughly about 262,000 and above,
- or 264,000 and above.
- In other words, what that means is property values below, let's say 262,000, would have some impact
- based on this reorganization.
- So that's the residential homesteads. Farmland and Richland, farmland and other residential
- rental properties, none of them are hitting the tax caps. Also commercial and personal property, none
- are hitting the tax caps. So again, what does that mean? It means they will be impacted by a reorganization
- to a certain extent. Ellitsville, all the farmland and all the residential rental properties are at
- the tax caps, so those will not be impacted by a potential reorganization.
- But the commercial and personal property are not at the tax cap, so they could be impacted. And the
- impact is just going to be based on what budgets you come up with and what you feel like is the necessary
- amount of property tax levy that's needed to fund the reorganization. So next steps. What should you
- be thinking about? What are the next steps?
- Really, if you decide to move forward with this process, the very next step is to develop a plan of
- reorganization. And I think that's probably the most difficult part of this process. It's very time
- consuming, and you are looking at each of your services in a lot of detail, because you need to figure out
- What is it that you need? What services are most important for your community? And how are you gonna
- fund those services? So part of the plan is just a name and description of this new entity. The boundaries,
- what is the boundaries of the new entity? How is it gonna be governed? What's the structure of the new
- entity? What does the election or the appointment methods of the officials look like?
- What services will you be providing to which areas? Remember, I talked about urban and rural
- and a combination of urban and rural, so you'll have to figure out how you want to allocate those services.
- Then just a general disposition of assets. If you reorganize and there is no longer a Richland Township,
- what happens to those assets held by Richland Township? There is so much that you need to consider and
- look at before you can move forward.
- After you get the plan of reorganization complete, as I stated before, you will have probably multiple
- public hearings, you will want taxpayer input, and there may be multiple revisions to your
- plan of reorganization. After all of that occurs, then you can do your final adoption.
- and that's when we begin to certify to those county officials and to the state. We get it on the ballot.
- Taxpayers have an opportunity to vote for or against this, and if all of that goes through, then it
- can be implemented. There have not been very many reorganizations in the state of Indiana. In fact,
- I am only aware of two successful reorganizations, and that is the town of Zinesville. That was the
- very first one. I think that was in 2018.
- In 2010, in 2013, Yorktown and I failed to remember the name of the township they merged with, the town
- of Yorktown and Delaware County merged with a township and I can't remember who it was. That was in
- 2013. Now there's been two others that have gone down this road but it failed and I don't know why it
- failed because I wasn't involved in those. So I want to kind of end this by saying that
- Reorganization, if it's right for you, gives you a lot of opportunity. The statute itself is written
- in a way that gives you lots of flexibility to completely reorganize the way you provide services or
- not. You don't have to completely turn everything upside down. But it is here for you to help provide
- efficiencies
- and collaboration between the two units of government. So it is, there's a lot of great potential that
- can come out of this. It's just that it's not been utilized very much throughout the state. I think
- the legislature, if you would ask any one of them, would probably say that they would like to see more
- reorganizations. So that was my very short presentation. I appreciate your attention.
- I have one. Looking back on your allocation of rates, page nine, and again, I understand these
- are theoretical, it seems fairly disingenuous to me to expect the Sheriff's Department and the county
- to continue providing services to something that's now inside another municipality. Can we assume that
- the rates for what would be Richland Rule, Eltsville Richland Rule, would not exceed either of the other two?
- would not exceed, I'm sorry. Either Richland Urban or Ellsville Urban or Ellsville Town Urban,
- one or two? I believe that's safe to assume. Again, you all have to develop that structure. I will say
- this, and I understand your comment at the beginning there. In my experience, going through even the
- failed consolidations before, that is a typical assumption that the Sheriff's Department will continue
- to provide services. And here's why, because believe it or not, they're already providing services here
- within the town also.
- But that is something that you do need to talk to the county about. Don't just assume they're going
- to do it. They may want you to have a contractual agreement with them. But technically, the Sheriff's
- Department provides law enforcement services to the entire county, including all the municipalities.
- So they're already doing it. But they might want you to pay them. I don't know. The taxpayers are already
- paying for a sheriff's rate.
- The street department, it's also common that the county continues to provide street services because
- they're getting a state distribution of gas taxes. So if they don't provide that service, then you all
- will get the gas tax and you'll provide the service. So it's just, you know, who's gonna get the money
- and provide the service. But the sheriff's department, that has always been a point of contention because
- there are people that argue out there that we're getting double tax for law enforcement because I'm paying it
- for Ellitsville police, and I'm also paying it for county. So that is a point of contention, I totally
- understand your comment. So you really, that's one of the things during the reorganization planning
- process, you will have to sit down with the county and see if they're okay with that, because they may
- come back and say, hey, you guys reorganized, this is now all the town of Ellitsville, we're gonna provide
- limited services. They could say that, they absolutely could. Other questions?
- I've seen that. And touching back on the street department, so basically you're saying that if we did
- decide to do that, the funds that currently go for the streets would just go to the new reorganized
- town. Yes, it should be a wash. Go ahead, Mike. Yeah, Paige, just for clarification, we've used the
- Adams Township Sheridan consolidation.
- You mentioned that or? And I did not see that. I mean, is it taking place January 1 of 2026? Maybe that's
- why I don't have it. I just looked at historical. That's why I'm saying I don't know all of
- the consolidations out there, but it's been very few. Perfect. Well, I just, we have made mention of
- it and actually used it for conversation. I want to bring that up. Thanks. Oh, gotcha. Okay. Yeah. It
- didn't come up on my search, but
- My search probably wasn't very good with that. There's limited, limited. Because I know Avon Township,
- or Avon's, Town of Avon and Washington Township also tried to do that at one point, and I don't know
- if it ever got to the end. There's been some that have tried off and on throughout the years.
- No one else? All right, thank you, Paige. Thank you. Where do you want to go from here?
- hoping there would be questions by the boards or any of the department heads for conversation. Obviously,
- I think the presentation was short and to the point, which is exactly what we wanted. I guess, going forward,
- we need to have a committee to decide exactly what we want out of reorganized town. And with that, these
- numbers that we suppose that were just for information may or may not change. Our conversations with
- the county may change what we need to discuss. But I think the most important thing moving forward,
- if everybody agrees, is that
- Township board and the town board provide names for the reorganization committee. I think that's the
- next big step. Maybe if Baker Chile or one of our legal counsel can provide, what does that board makeup
- need to be? How do we pick the people on it? How do we empower them, et cetera?
- The first thing the council needs to do in its next meeting is to respond to the resolution that was
- passed by the township board at their meeting and consider a resolution to consider consolidation. And
- as I understand the statute, it leaves the particulars to selection of the reorganization committee
- to each legislative body. So using Adam's Township and Sheridan as a template, what they did is they had
- two town council members from Sheridan, a third person, Adams Township had the township trustee, a township
- board member, and then a third person, and those six individuals made a joint appointment and selected
- the superintendent of the Sheridan Community Schools to serve as a moderator. So I think the statute
- leaves it open to decide, for the boards to decide how you're going to pick individuals to serve on
- that reorganization committee.
- So the next step, however, would be for our town council to formally resolve. Yes, you discussed it
- at the last meeting, but the resolution wasn't formally passed, so. Okay. And then is it your advice
- that we both bodies come together on numbers and how we're picking, or does each body pick their own
- after we pick a number? I think you should have an agreement first as to how many members, like three
- and three, or whatever you want to do. Okay.
- Didn't the statute say three from the town, three from the township? We'll short circuit it. Sorry.
- I think they can pick out subcommittees. Yeah, they appoint subcommittees.
- That would be part of the process. I think Paige alluded to that, because I don't think one board can
- do all that. I think the purpose of the reorganization committee is to indeed delegate to other community
- members on subcommittees to do some of the heavy lifting. I mean, if you will, the reorganization committee
- will be the mothership, and they will pass down things that need to be discussed.
- The subcommittees are subservient to the reorganization committee, if I'm correct. Yes. Which is then
- subservient to both individual boards, correct? Yes. So would it be presumptuous for me to say, could
- the 24th be a good date for coming up with the list of names we think might
- be appropriate for reorganization? I think so. Well, I guess I have a question for that, for legal.
- So let's assume we are in agreement, those of us up here, that they'll pick three, we'll pick three,
- and then those six will pick a seventh. Yes. Do our three need to come from within the town limits and
- their three come from outside the town limits but within the township, or can we mix and match as it
- is? I will look at that. William has asked me that. I will look at that for you. I think you can mix
- and match. Is that agreeable to you guys?
- But I will let you know for sure. Okay. Assuming it's okay. Yeah. Okay. And just to be transparent,
- we've already started to collect the list of people that we think might be appropriate for the reorganization
- committee. No commitments has been made, but just to garner any enthusiasm about maybe being on the board.
- You know, just so you know, we started from our site. Is that something you feel we can do on the 24th?
- Yes. You think the township would be able to have theirs around the same time? Could I, with that question,
- could I ask you a question with inside that? How do we go about conversations about that, correct?
- Say we're, you know, we're talking about these kind of
- You know, these names, do we just individually cleft the names and then throw them out there, or can
- there be conversations amongst individuals to prepare it? I mean, there needs to be some kind of organization
- or impetus to make this happen. Well, I think Eric and I can communicate with each other about what
- Rachel and the Township Board desires, what the Town of Ellsville desires, and then
- they can make their announcements at respective meetings as to where candidates are going to be for
- that reorganization committee. I just didn't understand how the flow of information should go. I had
- one more question for Paige. I forgot to ask. Paige, I had another question I did forget to ask. The
- over-65 circuit breaker prevents a tax increase, I think 2% from one year to the next. Would this impact
- that at all? Because if they're over the 2%
- would they still qualify? This doesn't reset that circuit breaker, does it? No, it does not. OK, so
- if the dollars are over 2%, then OK. Any other questions, Greg? I'd like to know if, instead of us coming
- up with a list, if there would be some way that people that are interested can approach you guys,
- approach us, or you guys also. Sure.
- once upon a time, picked up the journal and found out I was selected for a position I didn't even know
- I was running for. He must have been absent for a meeting. I never went to a meeting. I think that,
- Joe, I would assume there's some people here that are interested. I think for our part, we need those
- known to us no later than, say, the 22nd. Yes. Is that way we can publish everybody to the board? You
- go with that, Ian? Yeah.
- Question I got though, for Darla, how do we discuss before the 24th the names that we want on the list?
- I mean. The 21st is Friday, Scott. 22nd is Saturday. 21st then. I think what you do is you come up with
- a short list. Maybe you do that to your town manager. And then you can discuss your short list on Monday.
- you think that's gonna be too awkward. Do you guys good with it. Do you have a different date you want
- yours. A list of people within a week. That's what we're asking. We're talking about our people we need
- to write if we're gonna put out what date do you guys want your people to report in by. That are interested.
- I would think we ought to have. A couple weeks at least to have input from anybody that's
- Interested in. Yeah, you're getting into a busy time, right? That's why that's why we're trying to on
- our end. We're trying to get ahead of that to get that well, but I don't know when your next meeting
- is right, so. We do not have one schedule. OK, yeah, we have. We're getting into December.
- I have a really busy work schedule, so, I mean, you know, we would probably, I don't know,
- would we need, would you wanna meet next week to talk about it? Let's see, I got a meeting Monday night.
- Yeah, we could. I'm thinking we're, maybe the first of December, just to use a... That's all I know.
- Right, it's the 24th.
- So Darla to be clear if I have names the appropriate way to do it would be send it to you you'll share
- it with Eric and Eric can share it with the board so well so we'll have this ongoing list of names that
- are popping up.
- Well, the council has to pick their three, and the township board has to pick their three. But I would
- send it to you just so you can disseminate the information correctly. I'd like that. All right. And
- you did say that they had to be on the town limits, or you're still checking on that? I'm going to check
- on that. When I looked this afternoon, I couldn't find them. There's not been a whole lot of people,
- though. It's kind of make your own story in there.
- I kind of get the feeling the state said this is a good idea you guys figure it out Thank you so
- say that if anyone watching this today would get a hold of Mike Farmer that lives in the town limits
- that are interested in this and Mike you want to give your phone number? Well I thought it would be
- appropriate just so there's a chain of command if you will of information that anybody that would be
- interested did should call the clerk's office
- Sorry Noel, call the clerk's office and then they'll have the information. I'll hound dog it any way
- I need to do to get it to the right people. We also have a new email for this project. It's questions
- with an S at ellitsville.in.gov. And so not only can you ask questions, I think you could submit that
- you're interested. We're gonna have to start watching that.
- email it. And I think we just sent it out by Facebook on the website. I'm not sure. But that's another
- way people can contact us. And yeah, they can get a hold of me. Pardon. And if they'll just call the
- clap town clerk, I'll get right back to him. I would rather email that way. It's easy to follow up to
- make sure that it was called in.
- This way you're not relying on somebody getting busy and not passing it along. I just think email is
- a lot more efficient. All right. And the town clerk's phone number is 812-876-3860. David, would the
- township want expressions of interest? Eric, if you lean back, you'll be fine. All right. Would the
- township want expressions of interest to be delivered to the township office?
- to your attention? Does that work pretty well? Do you want to announce that for the public, the address,
- and then in an envelope directed to your attention? What's the address of the township office for the public?
- Can I make a comment? Yes. I see your timelines. Looks like your committees and subcommittees, I'll
- address this to both boards, subcommittees may start as early as January. So I'd like to mention that
- Kevin Patton, the fire chief, he's sitting back here and I would like to be a part of forming that committee
- or even being on that committee for public safety. Okay, all right. I think that'll be up to
- the reorganization committee. I just wanted to get that out there for both boards.
- Thank you. Further? Yeah, I'd just like to say that we are trying to organize an open morning on alternating
- Fridays and Saturdays, probably here at the town hall, for people that want to come in. We're not sure
- of the time yet, but I'm thinking between 8 and 10, where people can come in and discuss, critique, grieve,
- And we'll give them as much information as we can. And as we move forward, anything that is appropriate
- for the citizens, we will be utilizing Facebook and our website and other media outlets. We have a firm
- that's working with us, and they will help us get the information out. So I think from the beginning,
- To the end, everybody's interested in sunshine because we want everybody happy at the end of it and
- whatever transpires. And so we're going to go to extremes to get the information out. We're thinking
- cards to every household within the Richmond Township. We'll be in the future too. So we're working
- on all that now. And we didn't want to get ahead of the process.
- we'll start working diligently about how we get the information to everyone. Where do you want to go
- from here? Is there anything else we need to cover from your perspective? No, I think it's good to say
- that as governing bodies of the two entities, if I could speak on their behalf, we're just interested in
- a successful outcome, no matter what that is, and that we're all trying to work to make our community
- better. Okay. Thank you. I have a question to the attorneys. Okay. If for some reason, because Paige
- had mentioned this deadline, it's not like we have to have it done by, but if I'm not mistaken, the
- next opportunity to have it on the ballot would be November 2028, correct?
- That's correct. So it wouldn't be effective to the minimum then if we knew that would be January 1,
- 2029. Yes. Okay. Anything else from you guys? Anything else you want to cover? No, we haven't decided
- yet on a date for the committee yet. Okay. Do you want to wait on that or do you want to conclude the
- meeting or how do you want to go?
- December would give us 2 weeks to come up with names. That's just the list of names. That's not having
- a meeting and saying here you are. OK. So. We like to say December December 5th. OK, so you're going
- to require your names be submitted to you by December 5th.
- So just for clarity, ours is still remaining the 21st of November, and the townships will be December
- 5th to each respective addresses and or emails, phone numbers that have been provided already. Is there
- anything else that you guys wanna cover in this meeting? Dave, is there anything else you guys wanna
- cover? I can't think of anything else, do you? No. You? No.
- As far as the Eltsville portion of this meeting, we stand adjourned.