- All right, how about call the order of the Eltsal Redevelopment Commission for Monday, June 9th,
- 2025.
- I'm missing the prayer. Dear Lord, thank you for this day. Thank you for the beautiful day, the
- sunshine,
- the green grass. Help us to slow down a bit and just enjoy and appreciate your splendor and all
- the gifts you give us. Thank you for all the people that came. Please help them get home
- safely. I thank you for your son, Jesus Christ, and in your name we pray. Amen.
- Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it
- stands,
- one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
- Go Pacers.
- All right.
- All right, on the roll call. Dr. Jerry Hash. Here. Tom Kornman. Here. William Ellis. Here.
- Carl Thurman. Here. Trevor Sager. I am here. I'll be your secretary this evening. Thank you.
- And Larry DeMoss. Here. All right. So I guess our first piece on the agenda is approval of the
- minutes from May 27th, 2025 meeting. So moved. Second. Second. All right. Dr. Jerry Hash. Yes,
- approved. Tom Kornman. Yes. William Ellis. Yes. Carl Thurman. Yes. Trevor Sager. Yes.
- Are we good? Yep. Okay. So the next topic is the resolution to clarify legal description
- and parcel numbers for the downtown EDA. Is this what we have here? It is, but I'd like to
- back up for a second because there was a document that was distributed by Bank of Chile last week
- that we didn't get the chance to get to you in time for the meeting, but essentially this is a
- letter to all the overlapping tax units that is due. Every redevelopment commission by June 15th
- every year has to identify what taxes, if there's any excess assessed value that's going to be
- over allocated to the overlapping taxing units by June 15th every year and it's the auditor's job
- to make sure that gets done. So the auditor contacted the town and Bank of Chile put together
- a letter which I will read in its entirety of the record. This is in reference to the riverfront
- allocation and west side allocation area. Dear Monroe County auditor, town of Ellesville,
- council and all overlapping taxing units in accordance with Indiana code 36-7-14-39B5B.
- The town of Ellesville redevelopment commission is hereby notifying you of the following
- determination that it has made concerning its tax allocation area for 2025 taxes payable 2026.
- The commission has determined that there is no excess assessed value that may be allocated to
- the overlapping taxing units of the mayor prescribed in subdivision one of the acts.
- So that needs to be signed by Jerry Hash and this has to be approved or at least acknowledged at
- this meeting and a copy of the letter will go to the auditor, the Monroe County council,
- the town council, Monroe County public library, Richland Township, Richland Bean Blossom Community
- School Corporation and Monroe County Solidarity Management. And that's resolution number 2025 dash.
- That's not a resolution this is just a separate document that if the redevelopment commission
- would approve or make a motion to approve the pass-through letter is what it's called the TIF
- pass-through letter I'd appreciate it and then I'll get with Dr. Hash to make sure if he gets
- assigned we can get it signed in or a copy rather than sent to the overlapping taxing units.
- I have a question on that. When they say excess value does that mean from neutralization or is
- that saying that it is increased in value? Because I thought excess went to the TIF.
- It does and so what that means is once the TIF's bills are paid and obligations like bonds are paid
- there's excess that goes to the overlapping taxing units and because the town I mean the RDC hasn't
- borrowed anything you're not owed it you're not you don't have any debts right now you have to pay
- there's no excess so it's standard and they have to send it so. So if we let the money accumulate
- after a couple for a couple years without a bond or whatever how would that work because we don't
- want it distributed to the overlapping taxing? That's a vaguely question but my understanding
- is there's no set formula or percentage to determine what the excess assessed value
- means it means literally what's left over after your obligations are met by the RDC.
- And if we say the obligations are x? Yes. Gotcha okay.
- So yes but that's a good point it's not to be confused with what the RDC or what the TIP
- district will earn in increased value as development occurs those are different things. Yeah.
- Do you need a motion on that? If you would please if there would
- the RDC would make a motion to approve the pass-through letter I would appreciate it.
- I'll make a motion to approve the pass-through letter. I'll second that.
- All right we've got a motion and a second. Jerry Hash. Yes. Tom Kornman. Yes. William Ellis. Yes.
- Carl Thurman. Yes. Trevor Sager. Yes. Okay. Motion to approve. So other than other than that the
- pass-through for the the shared entities is there any other because we passed the the two districts
- because we had to have those done first of the year. You had to have them at least a resolution
- passed to establish it at the end of last year. Okay. Do we have any other formalities that we
- need to make sure are checked off to make sure we're all on the good side of legality going forward?
- We may have a report due in August but I'm not sure about that so but the Baker-Tilley
- calendar is all this stuff for so some of these do. So far we're good. Yeah so far you're good.
- Perfect.
- Do we want to have a discussion on the resolution to clarify legal description?
- Yes I think we are in good stead right now. So I did hear from the auditor's office literally
- about look back for four o'clock today. The auditor that's working on this had an opportunity to
- look
- at Baker-Tilley's revised map with the parcel numbers and the revised legal and they are in
- agreement with, I think Baker, I mean not Baker-Tilley, Biden-Fanio and the auditor's
- office are now in agreement as to what's what in terms of parcel numbers and legal description.
- So typically under the code if there's an amendment to a declaratory or confirming
- confirmatory resolution the redevelopment commission can amend it and it's required to
- follow the same procedure that it followed when it approved the declaratory resolution. In other
- words
- amendment is passed by the RDC goes to the planning commission goes to the council comes back to
- the RDC.
- I feel comfortable recommending that you do not have to do that in this particular situation after
- conferring a little more with the auditor and Biden-Fanio because the purpose of doing
- an amendment and having a public hearing and starting all over is for situations when you
- are expanding the area you're expanding the tip area you're adding parcels you're deleting parcels
- you're changing the purpose of the tip and you're changing the economic development plan
- it's or you've decided for example as you get into the tip that there's property in there that
- you want to acquire from in the domain maybe or have the town council acquired for you by in the
- domain you're not doing any of that all we're doing is we're making sure that the parcel numbers
- and the legal descriptions that were in the confirmatory resolution that you passed in
- february are aligning with each other in other words the example i used earlier today was it's
- sort of like doing a corrective d to correct discriminators error you're just kind of making
- sure everything lines up so with that understanding and with the understanding that you did not
- have a
- chance to look at this before this meeting i would ask that you look at this before the next
- meeting
- exhibit a is going to be the revised legal exhibit b is going to be the revised um map for the
- parcels and what i think we should do is have another public hearing just to be on the safe side
- just here at the rdc just to make sure the public understands that you're doing the corrections in
- case somebody has an objection so this is more legal clarification as far as numbers go versus
- really changing anything that we've already approved right okay right you're not expanding
- the scope or the territory graphical outline of the tip we're just making sure that the parcel
- numbers and the legals within the tip match because as i have been talking about it at meetings
- some
- parcel numbers the legal didn't always match the parcel but it's everything you've got here
- was within the scope of the original geographic delineation of what you wanted to include in this
- economic development for areas sorry and we we are it's been confirmed we are able to
- put in a tiff district richland township properties that are not in the town
- i think they are in the town i looked at it in the east looked at it i think that richland township
- trustees office campbell's park and the weaver property they are in the town well but we still
- have parcel numbers that are not in the town on this i i and i think they were the right-of-ways
- that we talked about yeah that could be the right-of-ways but the auditor one of those in
- there right but the the actual parcels from the township trustee campbell's park and the weaver
- property those are on the town right but we're voting on it with those richland township properties
- yes in there yes and that that's what's the corporate limits i think there was some question
- there's some properties close to weaver that are not in the town and maybe that's where confusion
- came in but yeah but there's areas k l and m both have parcels not in the town
- all i can say is the auditor has approved the legal and she's approved the flat
- so and he's not be able to check because i remembered your comments from the last meeting
- and those three that you asked about are are within the corporate limits of the town
- okay can we find out why they're not listed
- by the property designation as being in the town corporate limits then
- uh what do you mean they're 5304 10 400 no 5304 10 100 007.001-011
- the bottom one on k l and m
- okay and under k l and m the first property listed up there in each column is
- yeah the first property listed is within the town limits right k is weaver l is the trustee's
- office
- and m is campbell's park and those are the first parcel numbers under each column correct but if
- but like the fourth one in area k second one in area l and the third one in area m
- show they're outside of town limits well under area k 101 is the right away state indiana right
- away
- darlin that we talked about earlier that's next to the weavers right i'm not doubting that but
- they're either in the town we have jurisdictions or not i mean i guess we need clarification do we
- have jurisdiction on any even right aways outside the town my understanding is that they're outside
- the town you don't unless you enter into some sort of agreement between say the town and the county
- to exercise some concurrent jurisdiction i can go back to the auditor again and ask why she wanted
- certain varieties included but and i think what i remember is mr ellis was concerned that you know
- 15 years down the road right if there was a concern about the constitution of the tiff we
- would want to come back and bite us at that point so i understand his concern i'm and it may it may
- just be it's a formality but sometimes hope i can annex those parcels i mean if they're just
- right aways the county shouldn't have any issue with us annexing them because there'll be net tax
- i just i don't know if we have any statutory authority to pass a tip outside of our
- jurisdiction that's that's really all i'm saying yeah
- and there's three parcels that's
- and this is just for the downtown tiff or do we have okay yes because with regard to the west side
- remember it was the overnights agreed that after right looked at it again that everything was
- fine except for that one parcel was delineated as parcel c which is not going to be included
- okay i just i just like for my own purpose to get some clarification that our right of way
- is treated separately kind of within our jurisdiction even though they're not our
- in our town inventory i mean
- and i because i can't see on this map where exactly that parcel those three parcels are
- and i agree i think when we looked at it before they were on they were you know pretty much what
- you would call right of ways but
- okay i will circle back around
- and we'll get it fixed before the resolution is up for your consideration at the next meeting
- okay could you repeat on those k l and m what geographically what what do those correlate
- with you guys said weaver place campbell's park and one other is weaver l is the trustee's office
- and m is the park okay
- and the concern is if if this isn't correct down the road it could
- make the resolutions we've made insolvent because we've not i don't know what but i mean
- it's it's like if the county passed a tiff and there is ellisville parcels in there
- we wouldn't be thrilled with that i get it so
- and and like you said it's very unlikely that anybody's ever going to develop anything on
- a right of way but just like to have it as neat as possible well i guess even if it's a case and
- everybody uh and it's okay we could put a naturally buy it and make a note that it's it's actually
- not ellisville properties right i don't know though if we'd have any statutory authority to
- have any jurisdiction over properties we don't make sense right again i don't know i'm not saying
- declaratively we don't right aways could be treated separately any other options we annex them
- bring them into the downing majority so is that something that uh we can um come back to that uh
- yes okay i'll fix it in the resolution are you looking for a table motion then on this no because
- this was um just on the agenda as a discussion item so it'll be on the next agenda as a
- uh a vote item for action clarification for that on this were you thinking of just removing those
- three parcels after if the auditor says they just want the right away just for fun or well i don't
- know because i need to get back on the auditor body to find out more precisely why those were
- included in the first place okay all right and how much of a hassle is going to be to remove them
- yeah
- i don't think it'd be a hassle to remove it from this resolution but down the road right yeah
- and they may have just wanted them for map drawing purposes not necessarily i mean
- right
- is that saying about the devil in the details yeah
- not trying to cause problems well there's not any right but they just
- oh just for i get clarification right 100 percent and is did we get anywhere further i forgot what
- the discussion was last time about getting these tiffs eventually put on some type of
- map where we can actually look at it and really not just for us but for eventually for the floor
- too where people could actually look at it and really feel where it's at or know where it's at
- because i i look at some of these things and i get it but it's a little bit of a blur of exactly
- what is in that tiff where i think eventually if we're going to present it we present it to
- the public or the floor every time that at least for us i'm saying for me but for the public which
- is me the idea of having these somehow where you know there's roads and landmarks and something
- put on these map or an overlay where someone could really look at so oh i see exactly what that is
- because i yeah yeah so just a thought just uh you know again the more i understand the more
- the public understands the easier it is to pass these things and feel good about them
- you want small you want smaller as you can no no we're talking about like a flat map right that
- or do you want yeah we have a couple in there they want like uh yeah like something up on these
- where something like instead if again we have something that noticed before and they want to
- say well what is that then they don't i don't get these numbers all the time but if you could
- we could put on one of the screens and they could go up and look at even after the media during the
- meeting and say oh i see i'm over here not what is two oh point seven oh one oh one 37 yeah okay
- next to the old barn yes you got it you got it if it's if it's something that's possible if it's
- not it's not but uh again i want everything to be as user friendly as possible so we can uh
- continue to make sure we're all on the same page and we did add a couple examples
- in the next period okay spread out if we have something we might have to make sure actually
- they've been moved to my office is that something that's available say we come in 10 minutes before
- a meeting that we can look at that yeah yeah sure you know where they're at yeah okay in other
- words
- you can't get them for this meeting but yes which is fine yeah fine which is fine just reference
- yeah we just reference even if like i said the floor comes in they want to see it we at least
- can say here it is not here's this thing and they're going to come back and say yeah okay
- i can't either all right so it are we finished with our resolution we're going to get some
- clarification so that next time we can have the clarification before we vote to approve it
- and then that leads us to privilege to the floor
- any comments thoughts questions or online is anybody online for us did
- okay so
- that leads us to commissioner comments
- anything else or do we have any open discussion anything else anybody would like to bring up or
- is a concern or just scheduling wise are we did we talk about missing the next one
- because town council's move we don't have a meeting next 23rd 23rd so the next meeting will be on
- the
- 14th 14 yeah so everybody's next meeting on this board will be the 14th if we need one right
- which it sounds like we may with some adjustments yeah yeah
- i guess i could bring one thing up where someone helped me at this and i know we spoke about it
- where were we on on i know we were holding with these two tiffs that we had but at one point we
- talked about just opening up the entire town town um what was it we i think we discussed holding on
- to it to a certain day or is that something that we want to eventually get back on our calendar
- i think we really were talking about the business trip out of town right yes we were talking about
- the neighborhoods or anything like that well i mean you could tiff them but we wouldn't be
- doing a residential tiff i mean yeah yeah so but we really to confine what we're thinking it was
- the commercial correct that quarter yeah so we're not even done with it we need i mean we need
- direction or um the board to say we will look into it what seems to me when it comes to development
- that's another area that will continue to develop until it's packed into weight until it's fully
- developed doesn't really defeats the purpose correct from it from a tiff standpoint well you
- you need a reason for i mean you want a tiff because something wouldn't happen right if you
- didn't have it i mean i can't think what how we split it but basically if not for the tiff i think
- these areas wouldn't develop but i can see darla thinking she's probably thinking there's a way to
- legally do things to make that that quarter appealing and open where people want to build
- and do more things on there sure pathway maybe a bridge pedestrian bridge over the highway
- with all that extra money we'll have no i agree but like i said if it's if it's not that anything
- that we're in agreement with i'm fine just food for thought but i've i've wanted to do that for
- four years now but at the same time i just don't know i mean i guess we would
- have to really this tax revenue well be growth but i guess we just have to be really careful
- and strategic and making sure that we do it kind of on our town boundaries at least to the east
- settle because otherwise you're going to have to keep reopening and re-establishing the tip as it
- re-establishing the tip as it grows that's my that's my thought and i just say that we're more
- limited going that way which would make us i'm not saying we couldn't go that way right we're more
- limited the chances of us growing that way are slim there's a couple parcels here and there but
- not like any real big openings unless we want to tiff to the jail well the thought is is there not
- if if we don't tip something or we don't get involved in it can bloomington come and move
- it this way because i okay that's my only thought is just trying to do things and make sure we have
- a little bit of say so and control on on helping these things grow and be and and grow in an
- ellisville fashion so okay i mean i didn't think of five things i'd want to do along that border
- yeah so i'd say token if you're looking at the loss there and it's a grass overgrown whatever area
- and
- you're looking at having someone come in and put a decent business there even a nicer business
- i would think if i don't know if the sidewalks were nicer if we would give us some ability to
- um to make that growth i don't know more upscale and nicer than than just not tiffin it and it uh
- i don't know i'd like to see improvements not the same old same old thing it would be nice if it
- was
- more pedestrian friendly and maybe bicycle friendly where people could ride to an establishment as
- opposed to driving i mean you know eventually there's i know a person that's thinking about
- trying to get a golf cart or it's through the town board but i won't mention their names but
- anyway so something like that would change the dynamics of who could visit this that and the
- other as far as business so it could be an economic driver having um you know a pathway through
- there
- as opposed to the the sidewalk which is kind of intimidating when you stand there even with the
- smoke down speeds so between that and we definitely need to bridge something where people can get
- from
- one side to the other i agree that's eventually that will eventually you cannot win that will
- eventually be a major accident yeah so i agree with you 100 i like the idea because same token
- if we're going to if we're going to have downtown river district is that what we're calling it and
- where to make it i i can't wait to see it happen in the new life and things become more vital
- downtown
- but same token why not have it where people that live further out in ellisville and the different
- additions can get there like you said without getting in a car well what i don't know it's the
- unintended consequences of having that tipped all tipped out sure well one of the unintended
- consequences is those the school even though they need it's you know they get it from residential
- tiff there's also it kind of that the i don't know what term to use but the commercial tiff
- also helps offset some of the losses that they would normally get from sure so drives if it drives
- growth then we could always pass through something like that i mean it's neutral to what's going on
- now correct you'll get those taxes yeah so there's a way that we could do it but i'm just saying
- that
- would we have to make sure i think we're all in agreement with that that we want i know we talked
- about a little bit before we alluded to it that we're all in supporting the school system and
- making sure that we're able to continue to funnel what we can legally to the school system so they
- can continue to grow as the town grows but my thought is you know i drive through here you do
- all the time too and the grass is long and this is beat up and that you know is is if we do some
- nicer roads or sidewalks down the road and you know i know coming out of my my house i'd love to
- take
- a walk or bike ride and go all the way down to you know smith road or you know and just keep going
- you know i think that'd be great or if if we tiff it would we take care of it how does that work
- like
- the the grass and the sidewalks and that type of thing well a lot of the sidewalks and the grass
- you mentioned is an endot right away right but endot says it's on us to maintain through town
- to maintain all the shrubs and trees and this that and the other so that's on us even some curb
- work
- and this that never they keep telling us we're supposed to take care of it but if we take care
- of about asking before we do it but but so so there is some i mean we're mowing most of the
- the three-way now along the endot right away they they don't mow it and in fact we got permission
- to mow at Arlington and 46 where the where Arlington used to come there's a little roundabout up
- there
- so we're taking care of that just so it's not unsightly because there's more than twice a year
- so i mean there's another place where you know as we progress if you will maybe a gateway
- attraction as you come into town um you know a big bridge welcome to ellisville on it
- oh i i'm up for that one it's you know it's great something like that i mean
- you know we could show off our limestone heritage we got we got we got a guy in town
- that owns a company that knows all about limestone so you can make it a toll road too
- i mean it could be attraction i'm always talking about creating gravity for the town where
- everybody
- well you don't pull it that's what i was thinking is that the river district where i'm looking
- forward to making this a really place to go our destination but the idea of making a clean entrance
- on either side to make people want to come and check it out i think that that's a positive
- so at this point i'm hearing it doesn't make sense to go further east currently no i'm not
- saying i heard the other i thought yeah i mean i'm i'm for it i just think that it's something that
- i mean for me we're just getting our feet just jumping in with these i just my concern is if we
- do all of it we're the time to do that if we would have started with that would have been one thing
- but i mean i don't know if we'd have multiple tips if we did expand this one there's and i don't
- know
- if it would accomplish what you're looking for like having better maintained sidewalks or
- grass cut because the the money would still have to in other words the pots would almost be the
- same
- just for capital improvements it's not for maintenance right so we might create a situation
- where we would create more work for our field crews but you know it's it's a trade-off right
- okay we're always going to be behind the curve on growing and then having the sources to take
- care of it but i don't think it precludes thinking the tiff might be a good idea right it will not
- have the ability to build a trail any other way through that area and a trail or a bicycle path
- you know anything that would allow people to feel like they could cruise the area on bikes or
- anything like that they're just not going to do it unless we create an atmosphere where that
- it feels comfortable and it does go along with the fact that we're right by the greenway trail
- back through the county and our new trail and eventually hopefully we'll have a trail all the
- way mccormick's creek park from any side or on a committee to work through that process someday so
- if i mean you have to start thinking about that stuff and not accept the way it is now and the
- way it is right now is either you're going to somebody's parking lot or you're kind of
- excluded from utilizing the highway as somewhere you can leisurely go to one of the establishments
- i think they're great attractions and but i i agree i think the idea of making the public
- know and making it easily accessible and like you said the idea of like sometimes i will say
- when i go in the east side town i see a lot of people running and bikes and out it makes me feel
- like oh i want to stop here and hang out here this is great this place has a lot of activity
- and i just i love the idea of encouraging activity in ellisville and around ellisville to
- get people walking and meeting each other on the trails and doing some of that stuff and that so
- anything we can do to progress that along i think that's a positive for the for the kids the
- students the schools the people that want to move here it becomes another attraction of why you
- want
- to move to ellisville they've got these great trails and these things set up for us to use and
- utilize yeah density grows the pressure financially for people to try to utilize some of the
- properties
- down here and maybe age out some of the buildings that are there now and capitalize on where they're
- at the fact that the town's growing and it's a major thoroughfare the pressures there that say
- there's going to be improvements along that route for the next 10 to 20 years and what we don't
- imagine is going to happen anyway so we if you look at already what's going on through town
- you know there's no reason to believe we haven't missed out on some of that money now
- and that's just going to keep happening over and over and over again i know you know there's bikes
- on properties along there all the time they want to do this and they want to do that that hasn't
- all materialized but the activity and the thought is out there already who thought five years ago
- we'd finally have a brand new building to be built right in downtown ellisville
- when you go home tonight when you're going eastbound there's a brand new i can't remember last time
- i
- seen a naked lumber going up the structure highway yeah yeah it's crazy so anyway not a truck
- dumping
- stuff carrying stuff down and taking it away but some new stuff coming in but that's my thought
- again and i and i don't want to jump the gun or or again get us precariously ahead of ourselves
- or whatnot but my thought always and i may be incorrect with the idea the tiff is we want to
- jump on the bandwagon before all the improvements have been made to be able to use some of that
- tax money to to even entice people to come in and do more versus wait till it's already done
- and then you've missed the boat well we're here to do we're here to do things wisely
- and make things happen and i mean that's why we're here i would just like to see the engineer we'd
- hire to say where they can put these trails i bet they'll find a place but it's just that would be
- it'd be fun to see where they go so where is the um and i do get where you're saying if we don't
- have the boundaries exactly set in black and white where we can't really try to do a eastward tiff
- if we don't know where that's going to end up is that what you were discussing that yes i mean
- because i think indiana members and rbs in the smith uh plus yes smith pipe crossing they're not
- in the town but that's something that's on our radar um mcdonald's is not in the town that's
- something that's on our radar those are high av very big i mean that's something we would
- want to make sure we capture um right if we start something now those wouldn't be included you have
- to go back and do a modification but did you tell us before that once we have one started if there's
- changes to we can you can modify or if you got to modify you got to start all over you have to
- start
- all over meaning the procedure that you went through to get these resolutions passed you come
- up with the declaratory resolution it goes to planning commission it goes to council and then
- it comes back here for a public hearing and you can pass modify or um yeah confirm or modify the
- resolution okay so wouldn't preclude us from from being able to add those modifications once they
- were done but it would add expense right well yeah you have that statutory procedure you have
- to go through you're going to enlarge your work which probably we also still have to hire somebody
- to draft all that correct even though they're just adding on a couple parcels or is that something
- we can do in-house uh you could i guess it depends on why you're adding it and you know baker tilly
- would probably run away in as to what the impact is going to be so okay yeah um it depends i
- suppose
- on how large the parcels are and i just like us to get those into the town inventory as first and
- that because it'd be real clear to say to smith pikewood yes i mean and i think i mentioned in
- earlier meeting that um i found there was one community that has you can have just one parcel
- of tiff district and there's a community i don't know if it's down in madison but they had one
- parcel that was just a u-sports playground and that was the sole purpose of that tiff
- district was just for that part and that's a good idea mike do you know when phase two and three
- of the flood mediation will begin should stick around to the next meeting um we're going to talk
- about um phase two of the um at some point it's going to be talked about tonight i expect some
- public comment on it um obviously the rain caused some problems and um so uh phase two would be the
- McNeely bridge and so i'll probably be chewing this gum again but um you know we think i think
- if you will um that when the bridge was rebuilt i can't even remember what year it was the one
- was rebuilt um it's created a um a dam if you will on the approach on the north side of the bridge
- and we think box colors need to go in there people like me i can think of that it doesn't
- really mean anything but chris or burke we did our engineering for the first phase that's their
- recommendation and i think we may want to spend some money sooner than later and get in a position
- where we either find the money or find you know figure out a way to move forward but we need to
- have that plan in our hands so we're going to talk about do we need county cooperation for that
- okay and i'm looking uh i'll be looking for some documents that goes back to when that bridge was
- built and um i mean long and short of it if you if you's here before the bridge was rebuilt
- it used to have a dip in on the north side and and you used to be able to take a motorcycle that
- was
- such a dip you could jump the bridge and so when duke's a hazard so it actually went down like that
- so before they fixed the bridge when the when it would um flood down there the water just bypassed
- which one of the road and you and a lot you'll see a lot of trails and trail bridges and things
- like
- that and there's some in the county where it's designed to go over the road at a certain point
- not back up that did not happen at the McNeely bridge if you go down there any time it floods
- you can see it happen but like i said i can say that it doesn't mean anything but chris revert
- who's uh that's what they do their hydrologist engineers and they that that is in their report
- that they that we had paid for so i think sooner or later there'll be that first or second step
- and it's going to be part of the conversation at the regular meeting okay
- okay
- for clarification then on getting these other parcels in or out of our
- all right not jurisdiction but what who does that because you were saying that we wanted
- to wait till those parcels were included or not included to consider the east side tiff
- who who makes those decisions and how long the process is that
- does that make sense am i okay doesn't it determine whether they fight the annexation or do it
- super voluntary i mean so assume it's super voluntary what would be the process
- for doing it denise um so there'd be a petition they would complete and then um confirm that
- they're eligible to come in there's formula and they'd go through the planning commission
- get a recommendation from the planning commission and town council has the final say in it i know
- mcdonald's the owner there that owns that franchise he's willing to come into the town we've just
- had
- some difficulty i guess getting in touch with him but i've had a conversation with him and he said
- yeah just get me what i need to do so i can come into the town i've not been back to talk to him
- about okay you haven't seen caught up with him yet or well you give me another right the address
- probably won't well it's the one in alabama i don't know if that would work but probably
- that's a corporate address i don't know if it'll just sit on a desk or not you may have a better
- address yeah that's where he was that's where he had mcdonald's before he got these yeah
- but i can get i can work on getting you an address and he's not called back
- and then so is there a list of the parcels we need to contact people on to see well that would be
- if we can it'd be the town council i think i don't think which is totally fine but i'm saying yeah
- i
- don't think we're gonna sit on it right i would like to know what needs to happen who needs to
- make it happen in a time frame before we come back and and revisit it and if we need to make some
- motions to to see if we can request nicely that whoever needs to help to help so we can get back
- to adding this it looks like it's going to be a year or two years or we can't get a whole anybody
- then to me it makes sense to go ahead and do the tiff on the east side and add them or modify
- when this happens so i think from a time frame standpoint if it can be done in
- six months then we hold off but if it's going to look like it's going nowhere we need to go ahead
- and
- establish that tiff and i concur does that make sense yeah i mean we got two board members here so
- all we have to say get that done okay we'll help get darla help draft a ladder and send it to him
- on legal paper maybe they will get so is there a way to because i know my memory is not that well
- you guys may be able to do it but is there a way to have that on our agenda like in three months to
- to pull that back up and say where are we on the process of getting these parcels added
- because i don't want to bring it up you know me i'll bring it every i'll bring it up every
- single meeting you guys will say we've already heard that i don't want to do that but if we have
- a time frame we could add it back to our agenda yeah i'm sure we could well if not we could just
- you know after a couple meetings if you haven't heard anything bring it up again
- and in the meantime i'll reach out to abram mcdonald's try to get a good service address
- so he'll actually receive it with is that what you need darla sure i could send him a letter
- i could check the secretary of state's office and see what they have on file
- they just have this registered agent here but they may have something else yeah i do think he would
- i my and this is just my feeling i think he wants to have the conversation first i just worry if we
- send him a letter it's going to look like whoa they're yes you want to send an invitation
- yes make sense some mylar balloons well he's already agreed he'll do it he just needs to know
- the nuts and bolts and i don't know if he i mean he's probably the not being a businessman he's
- probably going to want to know how much more am i going to pay yes that's probably the problem
- affect me yes that's fair yep all right so the flood mitigation stages are you good
- on your answers or the discussion on that i'll have to listen to the next meeting okay
- anybody have any other thing to discuss before we adjourn
- no all right with that in mind we'll go ahead and adjourn the
- ellisville reed feldman commission meeting for monday june 9 2025 the next meeting will be
- july 14 14 thank you
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