WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.300 - All right, how about call the order of the Eltsal Redevelopment Commission for Monday, June 9th, 00:00:06.300 --> 00:00:07.280 - 2025. 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:19.210 - I'm missing the prayer. Dear Lord, thank you for this day. Thank you for the beautiful day, the 00:00:19.210 --> 00:00:19.760 - sunshine, 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:27.360 - the green grass. Help us to slow down a bit and just enjoy and appreciate your splendor and all 00:00:27.360 --> 00:00:30.640 - the gifts you give us. Thank you for all the people that came. Please help them get home 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:36.080 - safely. I thank you for your son, Jesus Christ, and in your name we pray. Amen. 00:00:36.080 --> 00:00:47.440 - Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it 00:00:47.440 --> 00:00:48.240 - stands, 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:53.760 - one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:57.200 - Go Pacers. 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:01.520 - All right. 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:13.280 - All right, on the roll call. Dr. Jerry Hash. Here. Tom Kornman. Here. William Ellis. Here. 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:20.800 - Carl Thurman. Here. Trevor Sager. I am here. I'll be your secretary this evening. Thank you. 00:01:20.800 --> 00:01:31.040 - And Larry DeMoss. Here. All right. So I guess our first piece on the agenda is approval of the 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:44.880 - minutes from May 27th, 2025 meeting. So moved. Second. Second. All right. Dr. Jerry Hash. Yes, 00:01:45.440 --> 00:01:53.440 - approved. Tom Kornman. Yes. William Ellis. Yes. Carl Thurman. Yes. Trevor Sager. Yes. 00:01:53.440 --> 00:02:05.760 - Are we good? Yep. Okay. So the next topic is the resolution to clarify legal description 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:10.480 - and parcel numbers for the downtown EDA. Is this what we have here? It is, but I'd like to 00:02:10.480 --> 00:02:16.960 - back up for a second because there was a document that was distributed by Bank of Chile last week 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:22.720 - that we didn't get the chance to get to you in time for the meeting, but essentially this is a 00:02:22.720 --> 00:02:29.760 - letter to all the overlapping tax units that is due. Every redevelopment commission by June 15th 00:02:29.760 --> 00:02:39.200 - every year has to identify what taxes, if there's any excess assessed value that's going to be 00:02:39.200 --> 00:02:45.440 - over allocated to the overlapping taxing units by June 15th every year and it's the auditor's job 00:02:45.440 --> 00:02:52.080 - to make sure that gets done. So the auditor contacted the town and Bank of Chile put together 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:57.680 - a letter which I will read in its entirety of the record. This is in reference to the riverfront 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:02.800 - allocation and west side allocation area. Dear Monroe County auditor, town of Ellesville, 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:09.600 - council and all overlapping taxing units in accordance with Indiana code 36-7-14-39B5B. 00:03:09.600 --> 00:03:17.680 - The town of Ellesville redevelopment commission is hereby notifying you of the following 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:24.320 - determination that it has made concerning its tax allocation area for 2025 taxes payable 2026. 00:03:24.320 --> 00:03:29.200 - The commission has determined that there is no excess assessed value that may be allocated to 00:03:29.200 --> 00:03:33.520 - the overlapping taxing units of the mayor prescribed in subdivision one of the acts. 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:41.040 - So that needs to be signed by Jerry Hash and this has to be approved or at least acknowledged at 00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:45.760 - this meeting and a copy of the letter will go to the auditor, the Monroe County council, 00:03:45.760 --> 00:03:50.560 - the town council, Monroe County public library, Richland Township, Richland Bean Blossom Community 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:57.760 - School Corporation and Monroe County Solidarity Management. And that's resolution number 2025 dash. 00:03:57.760 --> 00:04:04.400 - That's not a resolution this is just a separate document that if the redevelopment commission 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:12.960 - would approve or make a motion to approve the pass-through letter is what it's called the TIF 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:17.520 - pass-through letter I'd appreciate it and then I'll get with Dr. Hash to make sure if he gets 00:04:17.520 --> 00:04:22.480 - assigned we can get it signed in or a copy rather than sent to the overlapping taxing units. 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:35.200 - I have a question on that. When they say excess value does that mean from neutralization or is 00:04:35.200 --> 00:04:40.640 - that saying that it is increased in value? Because I thought excess went to the TIF. 00:04:40.640 --> 00:04:48.800 - It does and so what that means is once the TIF's bills are paid and obligations like bonds are paid 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:55.200 - there's excess that goes to the overlapping taxing units and because the town I mean the RDC hasn't 00:04:55.200 --> 00:04:59.680 - borrowed anything you're not owed it you're not you don't have any debts right now you have to pay 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:08.240 - there's no excess so it's standard and they have to send it so. So if we let the money accumulate 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:13.680 - after a couple for a couple years without a bond or whatever how would that work because we don't 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:19.120 - want it distributed to the overlapping taxing? That's a vaguely question but my understanding 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:24.720 - is there's no set formula or percentage to determine what the excess assessed value 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:32.000 - means it means literally what's left over after your obligations are met by the RDC. 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:35.600 - And if we say the obligations are x? Yes. Gotcha okay. 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:43.200 - So yes but that's a good point it's not to be confused with what the RDC or what the TIP 00:05:43.200 --> 00:05:49.120 - district will earn in increased value as development occurs those are different things. Yeah. 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.200 - Do you need a motion on that? If you would please if there would 00:05:57.200 --> 00:06:01.680 - the RDC would make a motion to approve the pass-through letter I would appreciate it. 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:06.560 - I'll make a motion to approve the pass-through letter. I'll second that. 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:16.160 - All right we've got a motion and a second. Jerry Hash. Yes. Tom Kornman. Yes. William Ellis. Yes. 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:24.320 - Carl Thurman. Yes. Trevor Sager. Yes. Okay. Motion to approve. So other than other than that the 00:06:24.320 --> 00:06:33.200 - pass-through for the the shared entities is there any other because we passed the the two districts 00:06:33.200 --> 00:06:40.000 - because we had to have those done first of the year. You had to have them at least a resolution 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:47.280 - passed to establish it at the end of last year. Okay. Do we have any other formalities that we 00:06:47.280 --> 00:06:52.480 - need to make sure are checked off to make sure we're all on the good side of legality going forward? 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:56.560 - We may have a report due in August but I'm not sure about that so but the Baker-Tilley 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:03.710 - calendar is all this stuff for so some of these do. So far we're good. Yeah so far you're good. 00:07:03.710 --> 00:07:04.080 - Perfect. 00:07:09.760 --> 00:07:13.600 - Do we want to have a discussion on the resolution to clarify legal description? 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:21.920 - Yes I think we are in good stead right now. So I did hear from the auditor's office literally 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:30.320 - about look back for four o'clock today. The auditor that's working on this had an opportunity to 00:07:30.320 --> 00:07:30.720 - look 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:41.840 - at Baker-Tilley's revised map with the parcel numbers and the revised legal and they are in 00:07:41.840 --> 00:07:48.720 - agreement with, I think Baker, I mean not Baker-Tilley, Biden-Fanio and the auditor's 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:54.720 - office are now in agreement as to what's what in terms of parcel numbers and legal description. 00:07:54.720 --> 00:08:02.560 - So typically under the code if there's an amendment to a declaratory or confirming 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:11.040 - confirmatory resolution the redevelopment commission can amend it and it's required to 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:18.240 - follow the same procedure that it followed when it approved the declaratory resolution. In other 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:19.040 - words 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:23.780 - amendment is passed by the RDC goes to the planning commission goes to the council comes back to 00:08:23.780 --> 00:08:24.160 - the RDC. 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:31.600 - I feel comfortable recommending that you do not have to do that in this particular situation after 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:36.560 - conferring a little more with the auditor and Biden-Fanio because the purpose of doing 00:08:36.560 --> 00:08:41.680 - an amendment and having a public hearing and starting all over is for situations when you 00:08:41.680 --> 00:08:48.320 - are expanding the area you're expanding the tip area you're adding parcels you're deleting parcels 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.480 - you're changing the purpose of the tip and you're changing the economic development plan 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:57.680 - it's or you've decided for example as you get into the tip that there's property in there that 00:08:57.680 --> 00:09:03.680 - you want to acquire from in the domain maybe or have the town council acquired for you by in the 00:09:03.680 --> 00:09:09.920 - domain you're not doing any of that all we're doing is we're making sure that the parcel numbers 00:09:09.920 --> 00:09:14.560 - and the legal descriptions that were in the confirmatory resolution that you passed in 00:09:14.560 --> 00:09:20.080 - february are aligning with each other in other words the example i used earlier today was it's 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:26.000 - sort of like doing a corrective d to correct discriminators error you're just kind of making 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:32.880 - sure everything lines up so with that understanding and with the understanding that you did not 00:09:32.880 --> 00:09:33.280 - have a 00:09:33.280 --> 00:09:37.920 - chance to look at this before this meeting i would ask that you look at this before the next 00:09:37.920 --> 00:09:38.320 - meeting 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:46.480 - exhibit a is going to be the revised legal exhibit b is going to be the revised um map for the 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:55.680 - parcels and what i think we should do is have another public hearing just to be on the safe side 00:09:55.680 --> 00:10:01.760 - just here at the rdc just to make sure the public understands that you're doing the corrections in 00:10:01.760 --> 00:10:07.120 - case somebody has an objection so this is more legal clarification as far as numbers go versus 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.840 - really changing anything that we've already approved right okay right you're not expanding 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:17.040 - the scope or the territory graphical outline of the tip we're just making sure that the parcel 00:10:17.040 --> 00:10:23.450 - numbers and the legals within the tip match because as i have been talking about it at meetings 00:10:23.450 --> 00:10:23.840 - some 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:30.960 - parcel numbers the legal didn't always match the parcel but it's everything you've got here 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:36.160 - was within the scope of the original geographic delineation of what you wanted to include in this 00:10:36.160 --> 00:10:41.280 - economic development for areas sorry and we we are it's been confirmed we are able to 00:10:41.280 --> 00:10:46.000 - put in a tiff district richland township properties that are not in the town 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:51.120 - i think they are in the town i looked at it in the east looked at it i think that richland township 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:56.560 - trustees office campbell's park and the weaver property they are in the town well but we still 00:10:56.560 --> 00:11:03.440 - have parcel numbers that are not in the town on this i i and i think they were the right-of-ways 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:10.160 - that we talked about yeah that could be the right-of-ways but the auditor one of those in 00:11:10.160 --> 00:11:16.640 - there right but the the actual parcels from the township trustee campbell's park and the weaver 00:11:16.640 --> 00:11:22.560 - property those are on the town right but we're voting on it with those richland township properties 00:11:22.560 --> 00:11:28.560 - yes in there yes and that that's what's the corporate limits i think there was some question 00:11:28.560 --> 00:11:32.880 - there's some properties close to weaver that are not in the town and maybe that's where confusion 00:11:32.880 --> 00:11:40.080 - came in but yeah but there's areas k l and m both have parcels not in the town 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:51.200 - all i can say is the auditor has approved the legal and she's approved the flat 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:56.560 - so and he's not be able to check because i remembered your comments from the last meeting 00:11:56.560 --> 00:12:02.480 - and those three that you asked about are are within the corporate limits of the town 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:09.440 - okay can we find out why they're not listed 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:14.880 - by the property designation as being in the town corporate limits then 00:12:14.880 --> 00:12:29.280 - uh what do you mean they're 5304 10 400 no 5304 10 100 007.001-011 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:33.680 - the bottom one on k l and m 00:12:33.680 --> 00:12:47.920 - okay and under k l and m the first property listed up there in each column is 00:12:47.920 --> 00:12:55.920 - yeah the first property listed is within the town limits right k is weaver l is the trustee's 00:12:55.920 --> 00:12:56.560 - office 00:12:56.560 --> 00:13:06.400 - and m is campbell's park and those are the first parcel numbers under each column correct but if 00:13:06.400 --> 00:13:13.280 - but like the fourth one in area k second one in area l and the third one in area m 00:13:14.400 --> 00:13:24.720 - show they're outside of town limits well under area k 101 is the right away state indiana right 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:25.120 - away 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:33.920 - darlin that we talked about earlier that's next to the weavers right i'm not doubting that but 00:13:33.920 --> 00:13:40.320 - they're either in the town we have jurisdictions or not i mean i guess we need clarification do we 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:47.440 - have jurisdiction on any even right aways outside the town my understanding is that they're outside 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:52.560 - the town you don't unless you enter into some sort of agreement between say the town and the county 00:13:52.560 --> 00:14:01.040 - to exercise some concurrent jurisdiction i can go back to the auditor again and ask why she wanted 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:13.280 - certain varieties included but and i think what i remember is mr ellis was concerned that you know 00:14:13.280 --> 00:14:20.160 - 15 years down the road right if there was a concern about the constitution of the tiff we 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:26.560 - would want to come back and bite us at that point so i understand his concern i'm and it may it may 00:14:26.560 --> 00:14:35.600 - just be it's a formality but sometimes hope i can annex those parcels i mean if they're just 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.600 - right aways the county shouldn't have any issue with us annexing them because there'll be net tax 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:48.480 - i just i don't know if we have any statutory authority to pass a tip outside of our 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.840 - jurisdiction that's that's really all i'm saying yeah 00:14:55.280 --> 00:14:57.040 - and there's three parcels that's 00:14:57.040 --> 00:15:07.760 - and this is just for the downtown tiff or do we have okay yes because with regard to the west side 00:15:07.760 --> 00:15:17.280 - remember it was the overnights agreed that after right looked at it again that everything was 00:15:17.280 --> 00:15:23.360 - fine except for that one parcel was delineated as parcel c which is not going to be included 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:33.440 - okay i just i just like for my own purpose to get some clarification that our right of way 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:37.440 - is treated separately kind of within our jurisdiction even though they're not our 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.480 - in our town inventory i mean 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:49.920 - and i because i can't see on this map where exactly that parcel those three parcels are 00:15:50.640 --> 00:15:56.080 - and i agree i think when we looked at it before they were on they were you know pretty much what 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:04.320 - you would call right of ways but 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:09.680 - okay i will circle back around 00:16:09.680 --> 00:16:18.320 - and we'll get it fixed before the resolution is up for your consideration at the next meeting 00:16:19.040 --> 00:16:28.000 - okay could you repeat on those k l and m what geographically what what do those correlate 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:34.080 - with you guys said weaver place campbell's park and one other is weaver l is the trustee's office 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:38.240 - and m is the park okay 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:49.280 - and the concern is if if this isn't correct down the road it could 00:16:49.280 --> 00:16:57.440 - make the resolutions we've made insolvent because we've not i don't know what but i mean 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:02.720 - it's it's like if the county passed a tiff and there is ellisville parcels in there 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.720 - we wouldn't be thrilled with that i get it so 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:13.040 - and and like you said it's very unlikely that anybody's ever going to develop anything on 00:17:13.040 --> 00:17:20.800 - a right of way but just like to have it as neat as possible well i guess even if it's a case and 00:17:20.800 --> 00:17:26.080 - everybody uh and it's okay we could put a naturally buy it and make a note that it's it's actually 00:17:26.080 --> 00:17:33.040 - not ellisville properties right i don't know though if we'd have any statutory authority to 00:17:33.040 --> 00:17:39.440 - have any jurisdiction over properties we don't make sense right again i don't know i'm not saying 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:46.400 - declaratively we don't right aways could be treated separately any other options we annex them 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:54.960 - bring them into the downing majority so is that something that uh we can um come back to that uh 00:17:54.960 --> 00:18:02.080 - yes okay i'll fix it in the resolution are you looking for a table motion then on this no because 00:18:02.080 --> 00:18:08.000 - this was um just on the agenda as a discussion item so it'll be on the next agenda as a 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:17.440 - uh a vote item for action clarification for that on this were you thinking of just removing those 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:25.040 - three parcels after if the auditor says they just want the right away just for fun or well i don't 00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:30.960 - know because i need to get back on the auditor body to find out more precisely why those were 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:37.360 - included in the first place okay all right and how much of a hassle is going to be to remove them 00:18:37.360 --> 00:18:39.360 - yeah 00:18:39.360 --> 00:18:53.200 - i don't think it'd be a hassle to remove it from this resolution but down the road right yeah 00:18:53.200 --> 00:19:01.360 - and they may have just wanted them for map drawing purposes not necessarily i mean 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.400 - right 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:11.600 - is that saying about the devil in the details yeah 00:19:11.600 --> 00:19:18.640 - not trying to cause problems well there's not any right but they just 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:24.960 - oh just for i get clarification right 100 percent and is did we get anywhere further i forgot what 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:30.320 - the discussion was last time about getting these tiffs eventually put on some type of 00:19:31.040 --> 00:19:37.200 - map where we can actually look at it and really not just for us but for eventually for the floor 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:42.240 - too where people could actually look at it and really feel where it's at or know where it's at 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:46.720 - because i i look at some of these things and i get it but it's a little bit of a blur of exactly 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.160 - what is in that tiff where i think eventually if we're going to present it we present it to 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:55.040 - the public or the floor every time that at least for us i'm saying for me but for the public which 00:19:55.040 --> 00:19:59.840 - is me the idea of having these somehow where you know there's roads and landmarks and something 00:19:59.840 --> 00:20:05.280 - put on these map or an overlay where someone could really look at so oh i see exactly what that is 00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:12.560 - because i yeah yeah so just a thought just uh you know again the more i understand the more 00:20:12.560 --> 00:20:16.320 - the public understands the easier it is to pass these things and feel good about them 00:20:24.560 --> 00:20:30.240 - you want small you want smaller as you can no no we're talking about like a flat map right that 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:39.280 - or do you want yeah we have a couple in there they want like uh yeah like something up on these 00:20:39.280 --> 00:20:43.920 - where something like instead if again we have something that noticed before and they want to 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:48.080 - say well what is that then they don't i don't get these numbers all the time but if you could 00:20:48.080 --> 00:20:51.520 - we could put on one of the screens and they could go up and look at even after the media during the 00:20:51.520 --> 00:20:58.800 - meeting and say oh i see i'm over here not what is two oh point seven oh one oh one 37 yeah okay 00:20:58.800 --> 00:21:07.520 - next to the old barn yes you got it you got it if it's if it's something that's possible if it's 00:21:07.520 --> 00:21:12.320 - not it's not but uh again i want everything to be as user friendly as possible so we can uh 00:21:12.320 --> 00:21:17.680 - continue to make sure we're all on the same page and we did add a couple examples 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:23.200 - in the next period okay spread out if we have something we might have to make sure actually 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:31.680 - they've been moved to my office is that something that's available say we come in 10 minutes before 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:39.440 - a meeting that we can look at that yeah yeah sure you know where they're at yeah okay in other 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:39.680 - words 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:43.920 - you can't get them for this meeting but yes which is fine yeah fine which is fine just reference 00:21:45.280 --> 00:21:48.960 - yeah we just reference even if like i said the floor comes in they want to see it we at least 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:54.240 - can say here it is not here's this thing and they're going to come back and say yeah okay 00:21:54.240 --> 00:22:00.160 - i can't either all right so it are we finished with our resolution we're going to get some 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:05.760 - clarification so that next time we can have the clarification before we vote to approve it 00:22:05.760 --> 00:22:08.960 - and then that leads us to privilege to the floor 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.680 - any comments thoughts questions or online is anybody online for us did 00:22:17.680 --> 00:22:24.320 - okay so 00:22:24.320 --> 00:22:30.480 - that leads us to commissioner comments 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:39.840 - anything else or do we have any open discussion anything else anybody would like to bring up or 00:22:41.840 --> 00:22:48.720 - is a concern or just scheduling wise are we did we talk about missing the next one 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:57.200 - because town council's move we don't have a meeting next 23rd 23rd so the next meeting will be on 00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:57.760 - the 00:22:57.760 --> 00:23:07.280 - 14th 14 yeah so everybody's next meeting on this board will be the 14th if we need one right 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.840 - which it sounds like we may with some adjustments yeah yeah 00:23:11.840 --> 00:23:21.280 - i guess i could bring one thing up where someone helped me at this and i know we spoke about it 00:23:21.280 --> 00:23:26.880 - where were we on on i know we were holding with these two tiffs that we had but at one point we 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:34.960 - talked about just opening up the entire town town um what was it we i think we discussed holding on 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:39.840 - to it to a certain day or is that something that we want to eventually get back on our calendar 00:23:39.840 --> 00:23:48.560 - i think we really were talking about the business trip out of town right yes we were talking about 00:23:48.560 --> 00:23:53.200 - the neighborhoods or anything like that well i mean you could tiff them but we wouldn't be 00:23:53.200 --> 00:24:00.080 - doing a residential tiff i mean yeah yeah so but we really to confine what we're thinking it was 00:24:00.080 --> 00:24:08.800 - the commercial correct that quarter yeah so we're not even done with it we need i mean we need 00:24:08.800 --> 00:24:16.640 - direction or um the board to say we will look into it what seems to me when it comes to development 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:20.960 - that's another area that will continue to develop until it's packed into weight until it's fully 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:28.480 - developed doesn't really defeats the purpose correct from it from a tiff standpoint well you 00:24:29.360 --> 00:24:37.360 - you need a reason for i mean you want a tiff because something wouldn't happen right if you 00:24:37.360 --> 00:24:44.400 - didn't have it i mean i can't think what how we split it but basically if not for the tiff i think 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:49.600 - these areas wouldn't develop but i can see darla thinking she's probably thinking there's a way to 00:24:49.600 --> 00:24:57.360 - legally do things to make that that quarter appealing and open where people want to build 00:24:57.360 --> 00:25:03.200 - and do more things on there sure pathway maybe a bridge pedestrian bridge over the highway 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:11.920 - with all that extra money we'll have no i agree but like i said if it's if it's not that anything 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:17.280 - that we're in agreement with i'm fine just food for thought but i've i've wanted to do that for 00:25:17.280 --> 00:25:25.600 - four years now but at the same time i just don't know i mean i guess we would 00:25:25.600 --> 00:25:33.760 - have to really this tax revenue well be growth but i guess we just have to be really careful 00:25:33.760 --> 00:25:44.080 - and strategic and making sure that we do it kind of on our town boundaries at least to the east 00:25:44.080 --> 00:25:48.960 - settle because otherwise you're going to have to keep reopening and re-establishing the tip as it 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:56.480 - re-establishing the tip as it grows that's my that's my thought and i just say that we're more 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:02.640 - limited going that way which would make us i'm not saying we couldn't go that way right we're more 00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:09.200 - limited the chances of us growing that way are slim there's a couple parcels here and there but 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:19.840 - not like any real big openings unless we want to tiff to the jail well the thought is is there not 00:26:19.840 --> 00:26:25.040 - if if we don't tip something or we don't get involved in it can bloomington come and move 00:26:25.040 --> 00:26:31.280 - it this way because i okay that's my only thought is just trying to do things and make sure we have 00:26:31.280 --> 00:26:36.800 - a little bit of say so and control on on helping these things grow and be and and grow in an 00:26:36.800 --> 00:26:50.160 - ellisville fashion so okay i mean i didn't think of five things i'd want to do along that border 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:56.240 - yeah so i'd say token if you're looking at the loss there and it's a grass overgrown whatever area 00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:56.320 - and 00:26:56.320 --> 00:27:00.880 - you're looking at having someone come in and put a decent business there even a nicer business 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:06.400 - i would think if i don't know if the sidewalks were nicer if we would give us some ability to 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:16.240 - um to make that growth i don't know more upscale and nicer than than just not tiffin it and it uh 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:23.830 - i don't know i'd like to see improvements not the same old same old thing it would be nice if it 00:27:23.830 --> 00:27:24.160 - was 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:32.560 - more pedestrian friendly and maybe bicycle friendly where people could ride to an establishment as 00:27:32.560 --> 00:27:39.120 - opposed to driving i mean you know eventually there's i know a person that's thinking about 00:27:39.120 --> 00:27:44.960 - trying to get a golf cart or it's through the town board but i won't mention their names but 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:50.560 - anyway so something like that would change the dynamics of who could visit this that and the 00:27:50.560 --> 00:27:57.040 - other as far as business so it could be an economic driver having um you know a pathway through 00:27:57.040 --> 00:27:57.280 - there 00:27:57.280 --> 00:28:03.760 - as opposed to the the sidewalk which is kind of intimidating when you stand there even with the 00:28:03.760 --> 00:28:11.200 - smoke down speeds so between that and we definitely need to bridge something where people can get 00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:11.440 - from 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:15.840 - one side to the other i agree that's eventually that will eventually you cannot win that will 00:28:15.840 --> 00:28:21.120 - eventually be a major accident yeah so i agree with you 100 i like the idea because same token 00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:25.360 - if we're going to if we're going to have downtown river district is that what we're calling it and 00:28:25.360 --> 00:28:30.960 - where to make it i i can't wait to see it happen in the new life and things become more vital 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:31.280 - downtown 00:28:31.280 --> 00:28:35.360 - but same token why not have it where people that live further out in ellisville and the different 00:28:35.360 --> 00:28:39.440 - additions can get there like you said without getting in a car well what i don't know it's the 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:45.200 - unintended consequences of having that tipped all tipped out sure well one of the unintended 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:51.440 - consequences is those the school even though they need it's you know they get it from residential 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:58.160 - tiff there's also it kind of that the i don't know what term to use but the commercial tiff 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:06.160 - also helps offset some of the losses that they would normally get from sure so drives if it drives 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:13.040 - growth then we could always pass through something like that i mean it's neutral to what's going on 00:29:13.040 --> 00:29:18.240 - now correct you'll get those taxes yeah so there's a way that we could do it but i'm just saying 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:18.400 - that 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:23.600 - would we have to make sure i think we're all in agreement with that that we want i know we talked 00:29:23.600 --> 00:29:27.520 - about a little bit before we alluded to it that we're all in supporting the school system and 00:29:27.520 --> 00:29:32.560 - making sure that we're able to continue to funnel what we can legally to the school system so they 00:29:32.560 --> 00:29:36.800 - can continue to grow as the town grows but my thought is you know i drive through here you do 00:29:36.800 --> 00:29:42.480 - all the time too and the grass is long and this is beat up and that you know is is if we do some 00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:47.760 - nicer roads or sidewalks down the road and you know i know coming out of my my house i'd love to 00:29:47.760 --> 00:29:48.000 - take 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:53.840 - a walk or bike ride and go all the way down to you know smith road or you know and just keep going 00:29:53.840 --> 00:29:59.040 - you know i think that'd be great or if if we tiff it would we take care of it how does that work 00:29:59.040 --> 00:29:59.280 - like 00:29:59.280 --> 00:30:05.120 - the the grass and the sidewalks and that type of thing well a lot of the sidewalks and the grass 00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:14.800 - you mentioned is an endot right away right but endot says it's on us to maintain through town 00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:20.560 - to maintain all the shrubs and trees and this that and the other so that's on us even some curb 00:30:20.560 --> 00:30:20.800 - work 00:30:20.800 --> 00:30:25.360 - and this that never they keep telling us we're supposed to take care of it but if we take care 00:30:25.360 --> 00:30:31.040 - of about asking before we do it but but so so there is some i mean we're mowing most of the 00:30:31.040 --> 00:30:39.680 - the three-way now along the endot right away they they don't mow it and in fact we got permission 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:47.280 - to mow at Arlington and 46 where the where Arlington used to come there's a little roundabout up 00:30:47.280 --> 00:30:47.680 - there 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:52.800 - so we're taking care of that just so it's not unsightly because there's more than twice a year 00:30:52.800 --> 00:31:00.480 - so i mean there's another place where you know as we progress if you will maybe a gateway 00:31:01.840 --> 00:31:09.920 - attraction as you come into town um you know a big bridge welcome to ellisville on it 00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:13.920 - oh i i'm up for that one it's you know it's great something like that i mean 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:20.720 - you know we could show off our limestone heritage we got we got we got a guy in town 00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:24.960 - that owns a company that knows all about limestone so you can make it a toll road too 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:32.080 - i mean it could be attraction i'm always talking about creating gravity for the town where 00:31:32.080 --> 00:31:32.240 - everybody 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.360 - well you don't pull it that's what i was thinking is that the river district where i'm looking 00:31:35.360 --> 00:31:40.560 - forward to making this a really place to go our destination but the idea of making a clean entrance 00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:44.880 - on either side to make people want to come and check it out i think that that's a positive 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:57.520 - so at this point i'm hearing it doesn't make sense to go further east currently no i'm not 00:31:57.520 --> 00:32:03.600 - saying i heard the other i thought yeah i mean i'm i'm for it i just think that it's something that 00:32:03.600 --> 00:32:10.560 - i mean for me we're just getting our feet just jumping in with these i just my concern is if we 00:32:10.560 --> 00:32:16.160 - do all of it we're the time to do that if we would have started with that would have been one thing 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:23.760 - but i mean i don't know if we'd have multiple tips if we did expand this one there's and i don't 00:32:23.760 --> 00:32:24.160 - know 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.040 - if it would accomplish what you're looking for like having better maintained sidewalks or 00:32:29.040 --> 00:32:38.080 - grass cut because the the money would still have to in other words the pots would almost be the 00:32:38.080 --> 00:32:38.320 - same 00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:46.320 - just for capital improvements it's not for maintenance right so we might create a situation 00:32:46.320 --> 00:32:54.480 - where we would create more work for our field crews but you know it's it's a trade-off right 00:32:54.480 --> 00:33:02.160 - okay we're always going to be behind the curve on growing and then having the sources to take 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:10.320 - care of it but i don't think it precludes thinking the tiff might be a good idea right it will not 00:33:10.320 --> 00:33:19.120 - have the ability to build a trail any other way through that area and a trail or a bicycle path 00:33:19.120 --> 00:33:27.680 - you know anything that would allow people to feel like they could cruise the area on bikes or 00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:33.040 - anything like that they're just not going to do it unless we create an atmosphere where that 00:33:33.040 --> 00:33:39.440 - it feels comfortable and it does go along with the fact that we're right by the greenway trail 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:45.040 - back through the county and our new trail and eventually hopefully we'll have a trail all the 00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:54.720 - way mccormick's creek park from any side or on a committee to work through that process someday so 00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:02.480 - if i mean you have to start thinking about that stuff and not accept the way it is now and the 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.200 - way it is right now is either you're going to somebody's parking lot or you're kind of 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:16.240 - excluded from utilizing the highway as somewhere you can leisurely go to one of the establishments 00:34:16.240 --> 00:34:24.080 - i think they're great attractions and but i i agree i think the idea of making the public 00:34:24.080 --> 00:34:29.360 - know and making it easily accessible and like you said the idea of like sometimes i will say 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:33.760 - when i go in the east side town i see a lot of people running and bikes and out it makes me feel 00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:37.280 - like oh i want to stop here and hang out here this is great this place has a lot of activity 00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.240 - and i just i love the idea of encouraging activity in ellisville and around ellisville to 00:34:42.240 --> 00:34:46.080 - get people walking and meeting each other on the trails and doing some of that stuff and that so 00:34:46.080 --> 00:34:51.840 - anything we can do to progress that along i think that's a positive for the for the kids the 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:56.160 - students the schools the people that want to move here it becomes another attraction of why you 00:34:56.160 --> 00:34:56.240 - want 00:34:56.240 --> 00:35:00.800 - to move to ellisville they've got these great trails and these things set up for us to use and 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:08.030 - utilize yeah density grows the pressure financially for people to try to utilize some of the 00:35:08.030 --> 00:35:09.040 - properties 00:35:09.040 --> 00:35:17.360 - down here and maybe age out some of the buildings that are there now and capitalize on where they're 00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:23.840 - at the fact that the town's growing and it's a major thoroughfare the pressures there that say 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:30.560 - there's going to be improvements along that route for the next 10 to 20 years and what we don't 00:35:30.560 --> 00:35:38.160 - imagine is going to happen anyway so we if you look at already what's going on through town 00:35:38.160 --> 00:35:45.280 - you know there's no reason to believe we haven't missed out on some of that money now 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.480 - and that's just going to keep happening over and over and over again i know you know there's bikes 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:55.040 - on properties along there all the time they want to do this and they want to do that that hasn't 00:35:55.040 --> 00:36:03.840 - all materialized but the activity and the thought is out there already who thought five years ago 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:08.320 - we'd finally have a brand new building to be built right in downtown ellisville 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:15.260 - when you go home tonight when you're going eastbound there's a brand new i can't remember last time 00:36:15.260 --> 00:36:15.440 - i 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:24.260 - seen a naked lumber going up the structure highway yeah yeah it's crazy so anyway not a truck 00:36:24.260 --> 00:36:24.640 - dumping 00:36:24.640 --> 00:36:29.120 - stuff carrying stuff down and taking it away but some new stuff coming in but that's my thought 00:36:29.120 --> 00:36:34.480 - again and i and i don't want to jump the gun or or again get us precariously ahead of ourselves 00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:39.680 - or whatnot but my thought always and i may be incorrect with the idea the tiff is we want to 00:36:39.680 --> 00:36:45.440 - jump on the bandwagon before all the improvements have been made to be able to use some of that 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:51.840 - tax money to to even entice people to come in and do more versus wait till it's already done 00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:58.800 - and then you've missed the boat well we're here to do we're here to do things wisely 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:06.560 - and make things happen and i mean that's why we're here i would just like to see the engineer we'd 00:37:06.560 --> 00:37:13.360 - hire to say where they can put these trails i bet they'll find a place but it's just that would be 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:19.600 - it'd be fun to see where they go so where is the um and i do get where you're saying if we don't 00:37:19.600 --> 00:37:27.760 - have the boundaries exactly set in black and white where we can't really try to do a eastward tiff 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.600 - if we don't know where that's going to end up is that what you were discussing that yes i mean 00:37:31.600 --> 00:37:42.160 - because i think indiana members and rbs in the smith uh plus yes smith pipe crossing they're not 00:37:42.160 --> 00:37:47.120 - in the town but that's something that's on our radar um mcdonald's is not in the town that's 00:37:47.120 --> 00:37:52.400 - something that's on our radar those are high av very big i mean that's something we would 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:58.080 - want to make sure we capture um right if we start something now those wouldn't be included you have 00:37:58.080 --> 00:38:02.240 - to go back and do a modification but did you tell us before that once we have one started if there's 00:38:02.240 --> 00:38:07.280 - changes to we can you can modify or if you got to modify you got to start all over you have to 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:07.600 - start 00:38:07.600 --> 00:38:14.000 - all over meaning the procedure that you went through to get these resolutions passed you come 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:18.720 - up with the declaratory resolution it goes to planning commission it goes to council and then 00:38:18.720 --> 00:38:28.480 - it comes back here for a public hearing and you can pass modify or um yeah confirm or modify the 00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:33.360 - resolution okay so wouldn't preclude us from from being able to add those modifications once they 00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:38.160 - were done but it would add expense right well yeah you have that statutory procedure you have 00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:43.600 - to go through you're going to enlarge your work which probably we also still have to hire somebody 00:38:43.600 --> 00:38:49.760 - to draft all that correct even though they're just adding on a couple parcels or is that something 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:56.400 - we can do in-house uh you could i guess it depends on why you're adding it and you know baker tilly 00:38:56.400 --> 00:39:02.860 - would probably run away in as to what the impact is going to be so okay yeah um it depends i 00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:03.200 - suppose 00:39:03.200 --> 00:39:11.520 - on how large the parcels are and i just like us to get those into the town inventory as first and 00:39:11.520 --> 00:39:18.160 - that because it'd be real clear to say to smith pikewood yes i mean and i think i mentioned in 00:39:18.160 --> 00:39:24.080 - earlier meeting that um i found there was one community that has you can have just one parcel 00:39:24.080 --> 00:39:29.200 - of tiff district and there's a community i don't know if it's down in madison but they had one 00:39:29.200 --> 00:39:35.440 - parcel that was just a u-sports playground and that was the sole purpose of that tiff 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:44.720 - district was just for that part and that's a good idea mike do you know when phase two and three 00:39:44.720 --> 00:39:51.440 - of the flood mediation will begin should stick around to the next meeting um we're going to talk 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:59.680 - about um phase two of the um at some point it's going to be talked about tonight i expect some 00:39:59.680 --> 00:40:08.480 - public comment on it um obviously the rain caused some problems and um so uh phase two would be the 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:19.440 - McNeely bridge and so i'll probably be chewing this gum again but um you know we think i think 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:26.160 - if you will um that when the bridge was rebuilt i can't even remember what year it was the one 00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:34.160 - was rebuilt um it's created a um a dam if you will on the approach on the north side of the bridge 00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:40.640 - and we think box colors need to go in there people like me i can think of that it doesn't 00:40:40.640 --> 00:40:46.480 - really mean anything but chris or burke we did our engineering for the first phase that's their 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:54.000 - recommendation and i think we may want to spend some money sooner than later and get in a position 00:40:54.000 --> 00:41:00.800 - where we either find the money or find you know figure out a way to move forward but we need to 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:06.480 - have that plan in our hands so we're going to talk about do we need county cooperation for that 00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:15.280 - okay and i'm looking uh i'll be looking for some documents that goes back to when that bridge was 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:25.200 - built and um i mean long and short of it if you if you's here before the bridge was rebuilt 00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:31.920 - it used to have a dip in on the north side and and you used to be able to take a motorcycle that 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:32.080 - was 00:41:32.080 --> 00:41:38.400 - such a dip you could jump the bridge and so when duke's a hazard so it actually went down like that 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:46.320 - so before they fixed the bridge when the when it would um flood down there the water just bypassed 00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.200 - which one of the road and you and a lot you'll see a lot of trails and trail bridges and things 00:41:51.200 --> 00:41:51.440 - like 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:56.960 - that and there's some in the county where it's designed to go over the road at a certain point 00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:03.200 - not back up that did not happen at the McNeely bridge if you go down there any time it floods 00:42:03.200 --> 00:42:09.600 - you can see it happen but like i said i can say that it doesn't mean anything but chris revert 00:42:09.600 --> 00:42:16.720 - who's uh that's what they do their hydrologist engineers and they that that is in their report 00:42:16.720 --> 00:42:24.960 - that they that we had paid for so i think sooner or later there'll be that first or second step 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:29.920 - and it's going to be part of the conversation at the regular meeting okay 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:31.300 - okay 00:42:31.300 --> 00:42:39.120 - for clarification then on getting these other parcels in or out of our 00:42:39.120 --> 00:42:45.920 - all right not jurisdiction but what who does that because you were saying that we wanted 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.320 - to wait till those parcels were included or not included to consider the east side tiff 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:55.440 - who who makes those decisions and how long the process is that 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:04.560 - does that make sense am i okay doesn't it determine whether they fight the annexation or do it 00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:11.920 - super voluntary i mean so assume it's super voluntary what would be the process 00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:20.720 - for doing it denise um so there'd be a petition they would complete and then um confirm that 00:43:20.720 --> 00:43:26.000 - they're eligible to come in there's formula and they'd go through the planning commission 00:43:26.640 --> 00:43:33.360 - get a recommendation from the planning commission and town council has the final say in it i know 00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:38.240 - mcdonald's the owner there that owns that franchise he's willing to come into the town we've just 00:43:38.240 --> 00:43:38.400 - had 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:43.360 - some difficulty i guess getting in touch with him but i've had a conversation with him and he said 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:51.600 - yeah just get me what i need to do so i can come into the town i've not been back to talk to him 00:43:51.600 --> 00:43:59.200 - about okay you haven't seen caught up with him yet or well you give me another right the address 00:43:59.200 --> 00:44:04.400 - probably won't well it's the one in alabama i don't know if that would work but probably 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:11.840 - that's a corporate address i don't know if it'll just sit on a desk or not you may have a better 00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:16.160 - address yeah that's where he was that's where he had mcdonald's before he got these yeah 00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:26.160 - but i can get i can work on getting you an address and he's not called back 00:44:26.160 --> 00:44:34.720 - and then so is there a list of the parcels we need to contact people on to see well that would be 00:44:34.720 --> 00:44:38.960 - if we can it'd be the town council i think i don't think which is totally fine but i'm saying yeah 00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:38.960 - i 00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:44.320 - don't think we're gonna sit on it right i would like to know what needs to happen who needs to 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:51.600 - make it happen in a time frame before we come back and and revisit it and if we need to make some 00:44:51.600 --> 00:45:01.200 - motions to to see if we can request nicely that whoever needs to help to help so we can get back 00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:05.840 - to adding this it looks like it's going to be a year or two years or we can't get a whole anybody 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.680 - then to me it makes sense to go ahead and do the tiff on the east side and add them or modify 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:14.640 - when this happens so i think from a time frame standpoint if it can be done in 00:45:14.640 --> 00:45:19.920 - six months then we hold off but if it's going to look like it's going nowhere we need to go ahead 00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:20.080 - and 00:45:20.080 --> 00:45:33.200 - establish that tiff and i concur does that make sense yeah i mean we got two board members here so 00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:46.480 - all we have to say get that done okay we'll help get darla help draft a ladder and send it to him 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:54.240 - on legal paper maybe they will get so is there a way to because i know my memory is not that well 00:45:54.240 --> 00:46:00.160 - you guys may be able to do it but is there a way to have that on our agenda like in three months to 00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:07.520 - to pull that back up and say where are we on the process of getting these parcels added 00:46:07.520 --> 00:46:12.000 - because i don't want to bring it up you know me i'll bring it every i'll bring it up every 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.560 - single meeting you guys will say we've already heard that i don't want to do that but if we have 00:46:16.560 --> 00:46:24.720 - a time frame we could add it back to our agenda yeah i'm sure we could well if not we could just 00:46:24.720 --> 00:46:29.840 - you know after a couple meetings if you haven't heard anything bring it up again 00:46:30.640 --> 00:46:35.760 - and in the meantime i'll reach out to abram mcdonald's try to get a good service address 00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:41.200 - so he'll actually receive it with is that what you need darla sure i could send him a letter 00:46:41.200 --> 00:46:45.680 - i could check the secretary of state's office and see what they have on file 00:46:45.680 --> 00:46:51.360 - they just have this registered agent here but they may have something else yeah i do think he would 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:57.440 - i my and this is just my feeling i think he wants to have the conversation first i just worry if we 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:05.120 - send him a letter it's going to look like whoa they're yes you want to send an invitation 00:47:05.120 --> 00:47:12.800 - yes make sense some mylar balloons well he's already agreed he'll do it he just needs to know 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:17.760 - the nuts and bolts and i don't know if he i mean he's probably the not being a businessman he's 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.840 - probably going to want to know how much more am i going to pay yes that's probably the problem 00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:33.600 - affect me yes that's fair yep all right so the flood mitigation stages are you good 00:47:33.600 --> 00:47:39.440 - on your answers or the discussion on that i'll have to listen to the next meeting okay 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:44.880 - anybody have any other thing to discuss before we adjourn 00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:53.360 - no all right with that in mind we'll go ahead and adjourn the 00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:58.640 - ellisville reed feldman commission meeting for monday june 9 2025 the next meeting will be 00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:18.160 - 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