WEBVTT 00:00:02.114 --> 00:00:09.831 - This is Monday, December 8th, 2025, the Ellsville Redevelopment Commission. We'll start with a prayer. 00:00:09.831 --> 00:00:17.399 - Our kind and gracious Heavenly Father, we thank you for bringing us all safely here together tonight 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:25.116 - and we pray that you lead our thoughts and guide our conversations and help us make the best decisions 00:00:25.116 --> 00:00:31.710 - for this town. These blessings and favors we ask in Jesus name for his dear sake, amen. 00:00:35.970 --> 00:00:45.044 - I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, 00:00:45.044 --> 00:00:54.374 - one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right, the first order of business, 00:00:54.374 --> 00:01:02.934 - approval minutes, November 10th, 2025 meeting. Excuse me, Mr. President. May we do roll call first, 00:01:02.934 --> 00:01:05.502 - please? I'm sorry. That's OK. 00:01:06.402 --> 00:01:19.853 - Tom Corman here. Andrew Henry here. William Ellis here. Carl Thurman here. Trevor Sager here. Larry 00:01:19.853 --> 00:01:33.438 - DeMoss here. From November 10th of 2025. So moved. Tom Corman here. Andrew Henry. Yes. Carl Thurman. 00:01:33.698 --> 00:01:43.650 - Yes William Ellis yes Trevor Sager yes motion passes. All right now we have the approval of year to 00:01:43.650 --> 00:01:54.001 - date redevelop commission financial report. I did want to point out to the commissioners that. In front 00:01:54.001 --> 00:01:57.086 - of you you have. A spreadsheet 00:01:58.018 --> 00:02:04.016 - So you see in the first column 2025 budget, the year to date balance currently used. In order to make 00:02:04.016 --> 00:02:09.956 - the payments for the commissioners that are eligible for payment, I need to move money. I was hoping 00:02:09.956 --> 00:02:16.071 - to ask the town council tonight. I just wanted to make you aware from office supplies, it's highlighted 00:02:16.071 --> 00:02:22.069 - in red. In the orange column, which should be the fourth column, is gonna show the requested amounts. 00:02:22.069 --> 00:02:23.422 - I'm gonna move $1,200. 00:02:23.586 --> 00:02:30.650 - up to the redevelopment commission. That's what we'll be using to pay the commissioners. And then the 00:02:30.650 --> 00:02:37.922 - social security and unemployment tax come out automatically. So after everything is said and done, it'll 00:02:37.922 --> 00:02:45.056 - still leave a balance of $6,192.82 for the redevelopment commission. If you need to see the individual 00:02:45.056 --> 00:02:51.358 - claims and everything that came out, I did have those emailed in the packet that went out. 00:02:53.442 --> 00:03:00.249 - So no action needs to be taken on this. This is just the town council will take action on it at their 00:03:00.249 --> 00:03:06.989 - next meeting. This is just informative for the commissioners. Do you have a question on that? We are 00:03:06.989 --> 00:03:13.263 - keeping kind of a running total of what's been used for the. Correct. So I didn't include all 00:03:13.263 --> 00:03:20.070 - the spreadsheets with that, but the 2024 amounts that were used for claims. If when you're looking on 00:03:20.070 --> 00:03:23.006 - the gateway or any budget forms, if you see 00:03:23.106 --> 00:03:37.199 - in general the one one zero one five the five is going to be the redevelopment okay thank you. Any more 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:39.774 - questions on that. 00:03:57.826 --> 00:04:05.100 - for that resolution. Okay, I guess we'll go down to the resolution resolution modifying confirming the 00:04:05.100 --> 00:04:12.445 - Declaratory resolution of the Elstville redevelopment Development Commission adopted on August 11 2025, 00:04:12.445 --> 00:04:18.942 - amending the Elstville riverfront economic development and other matters related there too. 00:04:22.146 --> 00:04:28.907 - The commission will recall that you established the Riverfront Economic Development District as an economic 00:04:28.907 --> 00:04:35.231 - development area last November with a declaratory resolution. In February, you passed a confirmatory 00:04:35.231 --> 00:04:41.992 - resolution. Thereafter, there were some issues with regard to the parcel numbers and the legal description. 00:04:41.992 --> 00:04:48.315 - In August, the Redevelopment Commission passed another declaratory resolution to try to correct that 00:04:48.315 --> 00:04:51.070 - because under Indiana law, if there are any 00:04:51.554 --> 00:04:57.201 - changes, if there are any changes to your paperwork. So if the map looks different, if the legal description 00:04:57.201 --> 00:05:02.486 - is different, you have to start all over, meaning you have to start with the declared word resolution 00:05:02.486 --> 00:05:08.082 - and then go to the Planning Commission, Council, and then back to the Re-evelopment Commission for hearing. 00:05:08.082 --> 00:05:13.470 - So what you have in front of you this evening is a resolution to modify and confirm the resolution that 00:05:13.470 --> 00:05:14.558 - you passed in August 00:05:14.914 --> 00:05:21.865 - After he passed it, it did go before the Planning Commission at its October meeting. It was passed by 00:05:21.865 --> 00:05:28.680 - the council at its second October meeting. And so now it is back before you with what I hope is the 00:05:28.680 --> 00:05:35.631 - final, final, really final. For realsies this time, right? Parcel map and legal description. And what 00:05:35.631 --> 00:05:42.650 - I did is I cross-referenced all the parcel numbers that the town intended to have in the TIP district, 00:05:42.650 --> 00:05:44.286 - which were 221 parcels. 00:05:44.578 --> 00:05:51.506 - 190 million in back in February. So that left you with 31 parcels that you had intended to put in the 00:05:51.506 --> 00:05:58.298 - economic development area, the entirety of which is a TIP district. So again, according to statute, 00:05:58.298 --> 00:06:05.226 - if those property owners didn't make it into the TIP district the first time around, they're required 00:06:05.226 --> 00:06:12.222 - to have notice. So I sent letters to those property owners. There may be some in the audience tonight. 00:06:14.114 --> 00:06:25.076 - So hopefully, like I said, what you have is the final legal and final plat map to be approved this evening, 00:06:25.076 --> 00:06:34.110 - in which case it will go over to the auditor to get the LGA. Any questions? I have none. 00:06:35.458 --> 00:06:41.550 - had to put it all back together again. Yep. Well, and there were some questions at some previous meetings 00:06:41.550 --> 00:06:47.756 - about why include right away. And if you were to go to several state of Indiana right away in the district. 00:06:47.756 --> 00:06:53.733 - And also I had to send the state of Indiana letter because there were some more parcels to be included. 00:06:53.733 --> 00:06:59.480 - If you look it up on elevate, it makes perfect sense because what you've got with regard to some of 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.526 - these parcels is everything around it is in the tent 00:07:03.042 --> 00:07:09.010 - And then you have this little sliver or this little triangle on a quarter of an intersection just sort 00:07:09.010 --> 00:07:14.862 - of hanging out there. So it kind of makes sense that if it's in the middle of the TIF district or if 00:07:14.862 --> 00:07:21.120 - it's close to other properties you intend to have in the TIF district, that those right-of-ways be included 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:26.972 - even though it may net you absolutely nothing in the long run in terms of TIF money. It just kind of 00:07:26.972 --> 00:07:29.406 - makes sense to make it part of the whole. 00:07:30.402 --> 00:07:42.014 - I think, hopefully, that answers that question that has come up previously. It does. Any other questions? 00:07:42.014 --> 00:07:53.516 - None for me. Maybe some from the public, but none for me. This is a public hearing. Anybody has anything 00:07:53.516 --> 00:07:57.022 - to say about this TIF district? 00:08:03.938 --> 00:08:14.635 - So we need to vote on this resolution number 2025-01C. Say it correctly. I'll make a motion to pass 00:08:14.635 --> 00:08:25.868 - resolution number 25-01C, a resolution modifying confirming the declaratory resolution of the Aliceville 00:08:25.868 --> 00:08:28.542 - Redevelopment Commission 00:08:28.642 --> 00:08:39.496 - adopted on August 11, 2025, amending the Ellisville Riverfront Economic Development District and other 00:08:39.496 --> 00:08:50.033 - matters related thereto. Tom Corman? Yes. Andrew Henry? Yes. Carl Thurman? Yes. William Ellis? Yes. 00:08:50.033 --> 00:08:55.934 - Trevor Sager? Yes. Motion passes. Thank you. Thank you. 00:08:56.802 --> 00:09:10.640 - All right, now we have the privilege of the floor. Do we have anything that we'd like to discuss or 00:09:10.640 --> 00:09:24.894 - anything? Any more comments from us? We didn't need anything? Then I will look to adjourn our meeting. 00:09:27.874 --> 00:09:38.012 - What were you wanting to public comment? Well, I guess we have some property owners and I just is there 00:09:38.012 --> 00:09:47.954 - details of what's going to be done or is that not known yet? So far, I think and you are sir. Richard 00:09:47.954 --> 00:09:55.070 - and Mary Davis. We have three properties listed that will be sent to us. 00:09:55.650 --> 00:10:04.744 - We have a couple of us real close to here, but I guess they were outside this area. Okay, what's your 00:10:04.744 --> 00:10:13.660 - address? The ones here are 112 North Sale Street, 505 West Vine Street, 501 West Vine Street. Okay. 00:10:13.660 --> 00:10:22.398 - And the one at 37. So now we have one at 321 Vine Street, but I think that's outside of the area. 00:10:22.594 --> 00:10:30.568 - Okay, what has happened thus far is the condition has approved what's called certain projects for the 00:10:30.568 --> 00:10:38.776 - area, and those projects include right now infrastructure projects, meaning the plan is to use TIF money 00:10:38.776 --> 00:10:46.593 - to build pedestrian bridges, signs, sidewalks, street lights, relocating water mains, and replacing 00:10:46.593 --> 00:10:51.518 - the sewer interceptor. So there's no plans to do anything else 00:10:51.970 --> 00:11:04.360 - right now, other than to just do some basic infrastructure. I have a question. If you want to come up 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:16.872 - to the speaker, the podium. Thank you. OK. This probably doesn't directly concern this, but we've been 00:11:16.872 --> 00:11:20.638 - having problems with flooding. 00:11:20.770 --> 00:11:28.234 - in that area, and I just wondered how we could keep little tidbits of maybe some progress that's being 00:11:28.234 --> 00:11:35.987 - made toward that. We had a flooded place, 321 Vine Street flooded out on us, and then also on Main Street. 00:11:35.987 --> 00:11:43.161 - You know the address? It's right next to Kenny's, right by the alley there by Kenny's. And anyway, 00:11:43.161 --> 00:11:48.958 - that one, so those two got flooded, so just wondered what's going on with that. 00:11:52.834 --> 00:12:01.549 - you have anything to say for this? Well, we don't have any plans with this. I mean, we have plans to 00:12:01.549 --> 00:12:10.436 - do infrastructure improvements downtown, but we haven't decided a priority. We've spent a considerable 00:12:10.436 --> 00:12:19.064 - amount of money downtown up till now to try to mitigate some of the flooding. And so it'll continue 00:12:19.064 --> 00:12:21.566 - to be one of our priorities. 00:12:21.922 --> 00:12:31.233 - and maybe first in line priority, but we have looked at your area. We'll put it on the list and I'll 00:12:31.233 --> 00:12:40.637 - start watching it when it does flood down there and see, I wrote down your address and see what might 00:12:40.637 --> 00:12:50.686 - be able to be done in the interim until we do any major improvements. But yeah, I mean, floods downtown, so, 00:12:50.850 --> 00:13:01.995 - It's always on our mind that I did not realize you was having problems, unless you're one of us. If 00:13:01.995 --> 00:13:13.586 - you're by Kennes, are you just north of Kennes? North of the alley? Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay, yeah. Where 00:13:13.586 --> 00:13:20.830 - that area does flood. But right now, one, we don't have any tip. 00:13:21.250 --> 00:13:29.434 - And so hopefully, I mean, we had our first new building built in the downtown tip area. So that's a 00:13:29.434 --> 00:13:37.617 - step in the right direction. But until we have funds, we wouldn't be using tip money. But we'll all 00:13:37.617 --> 00:13:46.128 - look at what's going on there and make sure stories. That's awesome. That's awesome. We got that fiscal 00:13:46.128 --> 00:13:50.302 - re-development bill that both of us put out. Yeah. 00:13:50.562 --> 00:13:58.527 - They have some pictures of Sale Street, like the old funeral home, one called Sale Street, and right 00:13:58.527 --> 00:14:06.413 - in there in the past. Because the flooding we've seen hasn't gotten that far up. But boy, there, it 00:14:06.413 --> 00:14:14.693 - was like knee deep in the 60s, sometime in the 60s. I think sometime around there, that's when the house 00:14:14.693 --> 00:14:19.582 - flooded down the creek. But anyway, I'll pay attention to it. 00:14:19.714 --> 00:14:26.759 - and make sure there's nothing incidental that we could do in the interim to maybe help you out. I think 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:33.736 - I found it on the property, Mr. Your RVD and MDOT, we'll see. May I ask a question for you real quick? 00:14:33.736 --> 00:14:40.781 - Did the letter explain what a TIF district really is for you? Because a lot of people get confused with 00:14:40.781 --> 00:14:44.574 - all these terms we use that's kind of government speak. 00:14:44.770 --> 00:14:51.527 - Did that explain that or? Well, I did mention there about, like you were saying, crossover bridges and 00:14:51.527 --> 00:14:58.153 - sidewalks. Where that TIF district, it really doesn't change what you do with your property. What it 00:14:58.153 --> 00:15:04.911 - says is that, and this is in broad strokes, I'm not speaking in legal terms, so Darla, don't be upset, 00:15:04.911 --> 00:15:11.668 - that it kind of freezes your assessed value where it is from the, so that every, because normally when 00:15:11.668 --> 00:15:14.686 - you collect taxes, it goes to the whole town. 00:15:15.394 --> 00:15:21.403 - Some goes to the county, some goes to the school. With a TIF district, it kind of says, okay, this was 00:15:21.403 --> 00:15:27.411 - the amount we started the TIF district. Any new growth in this whole area, that all will be reinvested 00:15:27.411 --> 00:15:30.270 - into that small area again to do these projects. 00:15:30.850 --> 00:15:37.501 - For the actual taxpayer, for the most part, it's invisible. You're not gonna see anything other than 00:15:37.501 --> 00:15:44.284 - those improvements we talked about. So did I say anything that needs to be legally corrected? So yeah, 00:15:44.284 --> 00:15:51.001 - you're good, and thank you for letting us know. I'm on the council also, and Trevor down here is, and 00:15:51.001 --> 00:15:57.784 - it's something we're very aware of and looking for ways to address that. Okay, thank you. Well spoken, 00:15:57.784 --> 00:16:00.286 - William. Thanks. Any other questions? 00:16:01.186 --> 00:16:15.320 - Comments? So the merger's not on the agenda. 630, the council meeting, that's correct. Three organizations. 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:27.230 - Yep. Merger, same thing. Colloquially. All right, anything else? This meeting's adjourned.